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About meOld, British, research interests in erotic literature and eroticism. Otherwise wide and varied tastes.

About my libraryI own all the books I've listed, even though a large percentage I haven't read yet! I started with my research library, concerning erotica and sexuality. Having added these, I moved onto my non-specialist books, and now I'm mostly adding new acquisitions to both collections.

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Hallo, Clifford--I just now logged into this account and saw your message from, uh... February... I really need to get it in order.

Yes, Poppea is a special darling of mine, ever since I worked as an interpreter for a production team, in my teens. Love all of Monteverdi, actually, so sparking with invention.
There's a new book by Rolf Sinerker.
It's The Kissing Couch, sequel to Bizarre Honeymoon.

See my review; Whatever Happened to Tanganyika?: The Place Names that History Left Behind… by Harry Campbell

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New Erotica book Review blog.

I am looking to gain followers.

If you are interested please visit

If you follow, I will follow back.

No problem. Thanks for the help.
Hello Clifford,
is your tea brick old?

I have read a good many erotic and kinky works in my day, but one that sticks in my mind is one published in the early 1970's called 'Commander Amanda Nightingale R.N. It is about a woman in the Royal Navy in WWII who is captured by the Nazis and is abused sexually to a great extent. It was very well written and enjoyable.

Jim Thomson Baltimore, MD.
Many thanks for your speedy reply to my request for more info, Clifford. Much appreciated.
Hi Clifford

Thanks for the review of The Erotic Professor by Clive Murray. My question is whether there is any spanking, BDSM or similar themes in the book
Do u have a sinful deciet
hi clifford,

I remember going to the joke shop in scarborough and seeing all these spanking books at the back of the shop, of course i was mesmerised, but when i returned on holiday a couple of years later they had all disappeared.
Spanking girls in navy knickers was one of the few titles i remember from all those years ago, thanks for providing a cover scan which is not exactly how i remember it , but it says there were 2 editions.
of course I would love to know what happened to all those books but it is pleasing to know at least one copy has survived.
thanks again
Thanks, I found a seller on amazon who had 4 that I needed, for a reasonable price, so I was able to acquire them all at once. I still lack 7 of the titles. Hopefully I can find the rest over the next year or two, as I'm looking forward to reading them.
Hi -- thanks for the useful list of books by John Colleton. I had been trying to find out more about him because his book The Trembling of a Leaf is listed in two reference works about James Branch Cabell -- James N Hall's bilbliography of Cabell and Maurice Duke's Cabell reference guide. Being an avid Cabell collector, I wanted to know more, and as I see an inexpensive copy online, I think I'll get one.

Hall describes the book as 'an "adult" novel with favorable references to Cabell's works'. Probably you know that Cabell was considered to be somewhat of an erotic novelist in the 1920s after his novel Jurgen was prosecuted for obscenity -- though it's really a literary satire/fantasy and its erotic bits are quite tame by today's standards. I notice you describe Colleton's writing as 'erudite' and Cabell is nothing if not erudite.

Hall's bibliography also lists another "adult" novel with Cabell references -- "Wayward Mother" by Von Hofman (sic), Fabian Books (1962). I thought perhaps that was another incarnation of Marks/Colleston, but the only information I can find about it on-line is its copyright registration, which is to one Richard E Hoffman (sic) of Fresno, California. I guess the erotic novelists of the 60s and 70s recalled Cabell's reputation.

I suppose Marks took hhis pseudonym from Sir John Colleston who fought for Charles I, and was granted lands in what became South Caroline -- where there is a Colleston County and where Marks/Colleston's novels are partially set...
I'm so glad you enjoyed it! It remains one of my favourite books of all time and recommending to others can be risky - especially when it's a book you feel strongly about. Thank you for letting me know. If you are interested in learning more about any of the characters The Apple is a collection of short stories about the same people. Some of them are set before the events of TCP and some after. Although they don't spell out an ending (thank god) they do help to satisfy the craving for more information about all these wonderful people. Just the thing if you are having a hard time letting them go.
Where did you acquire all the Grove Press titles? I find it very hard to locate them here in Arizona. Many of the titles printed in the 60s and 70s dealt with taboo subjects and in today's PC climate are hard to find. Thanks for any help you may provide. Love you collection!
You're welcome. Faber is one of those writers who make me despair because I'll never be able to write like them. His other books are much shorter and each very different from the others (I do recommend Under the Skin and The Hundred and Ninety-Nine Steps in particular) and he has also puslished several short story collections if short fiction is your 'thing' but The Crimson Petal is a real tour de force and stands up well against almost any classic I can think of; I can't understand why it isn't better known.
maybe one day I'll read some . covers look good .
where can I find a bookseller with decorated bookmarks ?
Weymouth? Very nice - I can think of a lot worse places to live! And you have my condolences on the Olympics; not being somebody who is very interested in sports at the best of times I'm afraid I do see them as a drain on the country rather than something to get excited about (though you may or may not have noticed that I'm a massive fan of Greece and all things Greek so I feel a bit of an attachment to the history if not the actual sports themselves and was in Greece at the time of the run-up to the recent Greek ones (I've forgotten the year already) and able to wave the torch through as it flashed by - not something I would have crossed the street to do over here but a bit of a thrill in the country of its birth).

Yes, we do have rather a lot of books in common which pleased me a great deal when I first noticed it but gave me a bit of a scare when I couldn't help but spot Leatherarchives's comment below! Perhaps I'll steer away from that corner of the library for a while. As for Burgess, I'm afraid I'm one of those people who was so thoroughly put off by A Clockwork Orange that I never ventured any farther - clever, yes, but I can't say I much enjoyed it. I see, though, that you share my love of many other great authors - Fowles (I guess you could hardly avoid that), Steinbeck, Robertson Davies, Ishiguro, de Bernieres etc, you have some of my real favourites in there.
Thanks for the review of 'The Sensualists', I had no idea that I owned an additional work of Dedeaux!
As long as people have hands and asses, and are interested in giving/receiving impact to the buttox, then, yes, of course spanking spans all sexualities as an erotic/sexual practice. There are, however, different cultural significations for the butt, depending on what else is done with it (e.g., penetration) or how its been memorialized/stigmatized via mainstream and alternative histories of cultural production (e.g., consider Rubin's Temple of the Butthole, the history of pathologizing black women's butts (e.g., Hottentot Venus), or Leo Bersani's famous essay, "Is the Rectum a Grave?"). But the way spanking works, impact to the flesh, the rising of blood to the surface, thereby stimulating the entire area (e.g., the genitals) and allowing for greater impact (e.g., the warming up process) is not specific to gender or sexuality, but just a facet of the human body. It's simply a useful surface for hitting because there tends to be more fat and muscle protecting the pelvic bones. But as an erotic flagellation expert, he's aware of all this, so his question somewhat baffles me.
Thank you for accepting my friends invite and for your earlier comment. I have to apologise for leaving this so long, it's only recently I've been able to give my time to LibraryThing and so I am only just beginning to get to know it. I also want to say you have an amazing library and I'm searching it whenever I log in to discover new books, so thanks for that. My library is embarrassingly small at the moment but I am adding when I can! Kind regards Karen.
Now playing Mozart's 23rd & 24th Pno Conc's with Curzon and Kertesz with the LSO, far brighter and more transparent than Britten with the ECO. Actually, I forgot I owned this one; grabbed it on the "blindfold" as I do when heading to my car with a fistful of CDs selelected at random.

Dear Clifford:

"Holt Moley!" (Do you remember that one? :-)) I am not at all sure I know how to use this site as I see so many responses and comments listed below; haven't had the chance to read any of them, but I will try.

If any of your correspondents want to "jump in," please do so.

OK, you asked, so here is a short potpurri: Virgina Woolf, An Inner Life by Julia Briggs, new to me and I am currently reading; "Europe Central" by Wm T. Vollman, a major epcoch, very high on my list; A Writer At War, Antony Beevor; Dika Newlin's "Bruckner, Mahler, Schoenberg; The Life and Legend of Leadbelly, by Wolfe and Lornell; The Rest is Noise, by Alex Ross; Sarah Waters, "Fingersmith," ( and a couple of others); "Betraying Spinoza," by Rebecca Goldstein;"Chloe Plus Olivia," anthology of lesbian lit 17th c to present, Lillian Federman, ed; Arthur Schnitzler's, "Night Games and other stories. (Don't forget my handy "Websters" which my late daughter suggested that I would not skip over words I didn't know, :-) I must add "Marlene Dietrich" by her daughter, Maria Riva, a great read on many levels. I omit some shelves of erotica and mystery-detective books and more. The above might give you (and others) some taste.

After listening too a couple of versions of Mozart's flute quartet # 3 (Love Mozart!) I went to a potporri I have created from downloading from Rhapsody, "my new best friend," :-)

Never found Britten, but love his conducting of Mozart Pn Con (ECO) with Clifford Curzon, although Uchida-Hart are my number 1 on this group.

Delius is an ugh. He should thank the gods for Beecham. Love Barbirolli.

Wow! Much more than I supposed - - -
in the background, Waylon Jennings, Lonnie Donegan, Pete Seeger, Springstein and a pile of others: 1212 downloaded tracks in this pile.

All the best.

I too have a copy of The Erotic Professor. It appears to be of the same edition as yours. I have been seeking a larger hardcover ed. which I think was published circa 1932.


Hi. Thanks Clifford. Yes, I enjoy living in South Australia. After I married, 17 years ago, I considered the option of moving to France, and examined the pros and cons, and concluded that here was the better place. My wife is happy here in her new country. I have produced a little booklet since last I wrote to you, and it sold well when my wife had her art exhibition. She sold 8 pictures and the booklets went well, and I have half a dozen copies left over. We made a small profit on the booklet, and the pictures put money in Marie-Claire's purse. Now I am working on another book. It's good to keep busy. Keep in contact. Cheers Glen

Hi John Thanks for your answer. My computer is at the workshop and I inscribe this on the notebook of Madame and cannot write lengthy windbags which I like to do, so will defer further reply until old faithful is restored to its accustomed place and I once more have the world on my desktop. Please bear with me for a day or two. Cheers Glen (

Hi Clifford.. I found the "Register of Erotic Books" on the Internet but was unable, at the time of discovery, to download it properly. What I got wasn't formatted properly, and it was a difficult task to put it in proper order. As I have it in hard copy on the shelf there'a no real urgency about it.

Ashbee is in three volumes and is massive. I don't know what a paperback would be like. There are paperback copies of Ashbee under different titles in abebooks. It seems hard to believe that what is being offered is the same as what I have, especially in view of the fact that the booksellers are offering them for very low prices. Copies similar to mine are on the list. One bookseller had a photo of the set he had in stock and I was able to identify it from that and the description as being the same as my set. He wants ove $600
Peter Fryer is good. His book "Private Case, Public scandal certainly exposed the British Museum. There was some correspondence about the BM's "Private Case" in the correspondence columns of the Times Literary Supplement at the time when his book was published.
Talking of banned books and pornography, in Australia we had a secret list which was kept by the Customs Dept. The Ministers for Customs one and all refused to publish the list. The only thing they would consent to was to answer "Yes" or "No" to anybody who wrote about a particular title. The list remained secret until the 1960s when somebody leaked it to "The Bulletin," a current affairs weekly. This list included only titles considered to be of "literary" interest.

I have not posted much of my erotica on Library Thing yet and I can't say when I will be posting the details.

Don't worry to do the scan. But thanks for the offer.

Thanks for your kind comment on "Trousers Down." It was my first attempt at imaginative writing, and was written to post on the Internet to give Yahoo Groups members an idea of how they might write their CP stories. Some very bad stories were being published. My story was posted, and remained for a couple weeks, then it disappeared, with no explanation. I put it on two or three more Yahoo Groups where it was appropriate, and the same thing happened. An American publisher of erotica sent me an email asking for permission to publish it, but he wanted changes made to make it politically acceptable. I turned him down. Since then I have written another story, but I have never published it.

I was unable to use the email address you gave me.

I am interested in your library. Perhaps you should be on my "Friends" list?
You should be able to contact me at the email address which appears on my profile page.

Your help has been most appreciated
Glen Ralph
Wilmar Library

Love the reviews! As there are hardly any smutty book reviews on LT, these are much needed. Thanks again for posting these.

Hi again. I forgot to say in my last that I have another W. H. Allen "Star" book which is entitled "More Eveline." The is sub-titled "or, The Adventures of a Young Lady of Quality Who Was Never Found Out," otherwise entitled "The Modern Eveline" This is not in Rose. The book has a bibliographical Foreword (pp.v-xiv). Sorry I forgot to mention this. Sorry, too, that I did not correct my spelling errors.

Glen Ralph
Wilmar Library
Hi Clifford
Thanks for your reply. I, too, have copies of "Eveline" and "Flossie," though neither is catalogued on LT at this stage. Both titles are in the W. H. Allen "Star" series, and both are listed by Alfred Rose in his "Register of Erotic Books" He lists "Eveline" in three different editions (Nos. 1637, 1638 and 1639) The first of these he describes as..."EVELINE, OR THE AMOURS AND ADVENTURES OF A LADY OF FASHION," Written by herself. 2 vols., 6 colured lithographs, pp.105 + 85 in all, 12 mo. Charles Roberts, Wardour St., London, c.1840. Rose adds that this is listed by Ashbee in "Catena..." at pp.141-144. However, referring to Ashbee I find the reference should be to pp,142-144. Do you have a copy of Ashbee?
The other two editions of "Eveline" listed by Rose he dates at 1843 and 1860
The W. H. Allen "Star" book has a Preface which they say has been taken from a 1904 Paris edition. It has some interesting bibliographical details. Do you have the "Star" edition. I believe it may have also been issued by Grove Press.

The title "Flossie" is, as I have said, also listed by Rose. He has two editions (Nos. 1768 and 1769), both with descriptions of interest. Ashbee, who died in 1900, had no opportunity to list this book, and the "Star" series edition offers no bibliographical information.
My copy of "The Good Ship Venus" has the same ISBN number as yours and therefore must be identical. I bought my copy at Shakespeare and Co. in Paris and it has the "Shakespeare and Company" stamp on the title-page. It certainly has no connection whatsoever with "Eveline" or "Flossie."
As you are a collector of flagellatory erotica you should have in your collection a copy of my story "Trousers Down." It appeared for a short time on the Internet, and maybe you had a chance to get a copy for yourself?
Thanks again foor your help.
Glen Ralph
Wilmar Library
Hi Clifford. I notice that you have a copy of "Venus Bound," by John de St. Jorre. I would like to know if you are willing to give me a few details about this book.
The reason I ask is that I hesitate to buy this book because I already have a copy of"The Good Ship Venus" by John de St. Jorre and I suspect that "Venus Bound" might be the same book with a different title. I would appreciate your help.
Glen Ralph
Wilmar Library
I haven't had a great deal of time to have a thorough trawl through yours... what it does tell me is that there are so many more titles out there I wish to add to my shelves!

As I may have said in the past, access to titles is something that restricts my collection.. Let's face it, this is country that had Lady Chatterley's Lover on the banned list for years!

Older "historic" material has so far eluded me... but then I am but a youngster when it comes to collecting books. My library has reflected what I have bought to read... it is yet to expand into reflecting what I have "collected".
Hi Clifford,

The new Collections feature does make organising things a little easier but I have elected not to duplicate my full library here - I use Booxter as my main cataloguing tool.

I know I can import the full list quite easily, but I have chosen to keep them separate as explained in my original post.

I am fascinated by the depth of your collection - I would expect that you have far greater and easier access to a wider range of material, especially the older books, than I would have here in Australia.

As for the blog... well, that's a whole other story and I can't imagine you would find it of all that much interest.

It would be greatif you have a list and I can go through the list. Unfortunatly it is for me very difficult to buy, the new zealand dollar is half the value as the euro. So for me everything is double so expensive. But still... maybe you have nice books and looking forward to your list :)

Thanks for the trouble.
Hi, the foreword is in exactly the same words/text as you mentioned. Except it ends with the initials J.M.

Hope this will help you.

Thanks for your compliments of my collection. Still looking, so if you have any doubles please let me know.

Good Evening Clifford,

I have 4 paperback books at present.

Regine - E.K (Nexus)
The Lifted Curtain - Comte de Mirabeau (Star)
More Eveline - Anon (Nexus)
Autobiography of a Flea - (Nexus)

I don't have Romance of Lust, but would like it.

I do have a massive (100s) collection of erotic stories/novels in text format which i purchased off e-bay. Many have BDSM, Beastiality, Incest themes which I'm not that interested in. Bought for the Victorian/Bohemian content.



can you tell me more about the flaming website. What's on there ?
Why should it be interesting ?

thank you very much for the effort. Really appreciated.
Even if it's not bdsm, I'm still interressted if it's erotic. Waiting your reply with wet enthousiastic hands (LOL)

It's a pitty that you're not into bdsm, you are missing a lot of fun and beautiful, enjoyable erotic.

Collecting since 1960's, ahum I wasn't born at that stage.:) But hopefully get the change more often. But here in New Zealand we have a problem that books are not so popular as over in Europe. You don't have as much second hand shops and maybe 1 or 2 times a year a book fancy. And unfortunatly bdsm and books about erotic is really a bit not done here.

hope to talk with you again. Have you ever been on fetlife website ?
Can you telle me where I can find that forum of yours.

My Master is,....but not because of the books LOL He's not a good reader, and I try but have far to less time.
If you have any doubles....please let me know maybe we can swap or I can buy from you ?

Are you involved in the BDSM yourself ? How did you get such a marvelous collection ?

He thanks for your complement.

Wowwwwwww what a nice collection do you have.......oh oh

I would be willing; however, it is deep in storage at the moment. I'll get back in touch when it's available.
Thanks for the list!
The list of Robert W Marks' erotic novels (John Colleton) appears to be:

‘The Trembling of a Leaf’ (1971)
‘The Enjoyment of Amy’ (1973)
‘The Pleasures of Cloris’ (1974)
‘Replenishing Jennifer’ (1975)
‘Up in Mamie’s Diary’ (1975)
‘Between Cloris and Amy’ (1976)
‘The Naked Countess of Liechtenstein’ (1976)
‘On Or About The First Day In June’ (1976)
‘Two Nymphs Named Melissa’ (1979)
‘The Seduction of Marianna’ (1980)
‘The Delights of Anna’ (1980)
‘The Enticement of Cindy’ (1981)
‘Barefoot on Jill’ (1983)
‘Interjecting Valerie’ (1986)

I'm preparing a Wikipedia entry on Colleton, including brief synopses. I have found an excellent summary of his work, in the superb 'Encyclopedia of Erotic Literature' of Brulotte and Phillips, by Joseph Slade III, Colleton being one of the very few modern authors honoured by this inclusion in what is a very scholarly (and expensive) work. Slade hints that the 'triangle of lovers' depicted in the novels is based on Marks' private life, and that the other women he depicted drew heavily on his interviews with Audrey Hepburn, Sophia Loren, Gypsy Rose Lee, Jayne Mansfield, Kim Novak, and Mae West. We can only speculate how much of the 'action' is simply wishful thinking!
Yes, it is sad that there isn't more info on some of these authors. I usually try to impart some kind of biographical info when I review them. But it's extremely hard to find that kind of info, especially on some of the older works.

I have acquired the 'Alice' trilogy, and now I'm interested in the John Colleton books. What is the chronological order of this series? Would you mind listing them in order?
Speaking of Dedeaux, do you have any information on him or his works? I can find nothing on the internet about him, not even the first publication date of his books. There are 5 or 6 listed on Amazon and I've always wondered if there are more out there that are out of print.
I am in awe of your collection. I found a lot that I need to hunt down. The "Alice" series by Surreal looks especially good.
Recognition? I had no idea his name was not John Colleton. Even when his books were popular I found no evidence of interest in the author himself. The books, if I recall correctly, got a few reviews but no discussion of the author.

I am sorry I can be of no great help. It has been quite a while since I read any of the books.
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