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About me[early May, 2013, but see Addendum:] A first-rate writer of our time has suggested that I am a curmudgeon. I prefer to think of myself as one of Santa's little helpers, though on the tall side. But in our suburb of the North Pole, we have one special test for Naughty vs Nice: we don't read or answer communications from LTers who are totally anonymous or pseudonymous: indulge me in this small preference.
[Addendum, December 2013: the ever-increasing loutishness of much of the "Talk" on LT has led me to take an indefinite hiatus from the site. It is impossible to exchange ideas, or even simple facts, with people who can only rant, and haven't the slightest concept of dignified silence or patient listening. Those who need to know already have, or soon will have alternative means of communicating with me. To those who have made them, thanks for the good times! And Merry Christmas!

About my libraryI'm always interested in exchanges (but not stock-exchanges).


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Hi, Goddard.

I would be delighted to read your pages on Britten. As you will have detected I am not a great fan of his work but I know those who are. At school there was a music teacher who used to play his work for the class and I could never take to it. I have sought out pieces of his work but have never felt positively disposed to them. The piece you recommended was a worthy piece, but it is not something that I warmed to, but I did recognise the skill of the performers.

When the opportunity arises I listen to his work in the hope that I will find a piece that I enjoy. I have not studied music in any significant detail so I do not appreciate the full technical achievement of his work, but I do recognise there are underlying depths to his work that I do not hear, or do not have the knowledge to appreciate fully. My e-mail is .

In relation to my profile picture, you are spot-on. Not many people recognise him. I have quite a few of his works but I have not been diligent in cataloguing them. A task for long winter evenings, but I will not say which winter.

Good luck with you Microsoft interactions.



Thank you for the nice note, Goddard/HarryMacDonald. I like your Wall of Shame idea, may steal it at some point. And I agree with several of your Phonies entries.

You've put me in the mood for a nice pot of Darjeeling, even though it is 90+ degrees here. Happy reading and drinking, whatever your preferences in each category.
I'll answer the Katie Casey question first. I don't know the song although I am familiar with the Harvey Girls and have at least 2 books on them. I'll pile over the rubble to get to the back of the library where those books are and see if anything pops up in the index.

I'll now add the Willa Cather book to the imfamous 'Need to Read' list!


PS: I'm a bit late on these as the last two weeks have been rather exciting as my daughter signed to buy a house so her 'executive secretary' has been a tad preoccupied as you can tell from the timeless of responses and the lack of any additional entries to the collection. Last time we bought a house was 1974 and things are considerably different now in Pennsylvania than back then when one goes through the process. Such fun. . .
Thank you for your kind and insightful comments on Go Now in Darkness. The book was written by my father and knowing that it has reached itself into the hands and mind of another writer many decades later will give him great pleasure in his old age. Thank you again, you made me very proud of him tonight. -Sherine Sublette
Hi Goddard, that was an entertaining review! Thanks for posting!

John's Gospel may be more up your alley--it's preferred by most--not because the format changes, but because complaints about the disjointedness caused me to make an effort to better blend the scripture into the story. So, John actually dictates the scripture, making it more readable.

Nevertheless, I thoroughly enjoyed the historical research for Revelation and it remains my personal favorite.
Oh, I assumed since you wanted us to read and review each other's books, that you were a horror writer. One of these days I'll learn to quit assuming that. I try to stay away from zombie tales, as I feel they've been way-past-overdone like vampires, and for one to be good, it would have to be incredible like The Walking Dead.
Sure thing. I can't wait to read your work. Just let me know.
That's fine, but mine is strictly an eBook, at least until it sells enough copies to make the paper book, if it does. I'd have to email you the .PDF. Let me know if that's all right.
Hi Goddard,

Thank you for your messages. I'm glad to hear us Nederlanders have made such a good impression on you. I will do my best to only add to your good opinion :-)

Enjoy your weekend and your reading.

Vonini - Yvonne
Glad to hear you liked the water lilies. My husband took the photos and one of them won first prize at our Fall Fair!!

You are right, Gallant's book deserves a wider audience. I'm wondering how you know PEI so well. I haven't been to any of the maritime provinces but would dearly like to make a trip there soon. You're comments on Schreiner's book piques my interest, I'll have to move it further up on the tbr heap.

Cheers, Vivienne
Thanks for mentioning Olive Schreiner in the Victoriana thread, it led me to a group of books that I hadn't entered in my LT catalogue. Before retirement I worked in a polar research library and miss the ability to pick up whatever book took my fancy. Now I'm in a small town I try to spread out my interlibrary loan requests and more often resort to buying books online. I will definitely look out for Maurice Collis. Thanks for the tip, much appreciated. Cheers, Vivienne
Unbelievable. I figured it out all by myself.
Postcards! I love postcards. I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because they are small and diverse. I joined a couple of years ago, but I had to drop it because my health problems got too bad, and I didn't have the energy to keep up.

I send a postcard a day to a friend who lives out of state. I have a theme for each day of the week. The themes usually correspond to a postcard book. Thursday's theme, for example, is Van Gogh. Before that it was Pre-Raphaelites.

I end up keeping some books intact because I like them so much, but I don't collect them as a hobby.
Thank you very much, Goddard. I appreciate the straightforward reply.

If you recall the MI prelude, you probably also remember the Tonight Show parodies in which Johnny found himself trapped in a confined place (like a telephone booth), unable to escape before the cassette self destructed. After the explosion, he would be seen staggering around, clothes in shreds and face smeared with ash. Now you have a pretty good picture of the State of the Thing.
Not to talk you out of this but the gesture of telling all the people you disagree with that you're through is not going to change a thing. There's nothing wrong with arguing with them and someone should do it anyway. To be honest it's worse sometimes talking just to those people you more or/than less see eye to eye with. Sometimes I look at this way--that if I can change somebody's mind just a little bit once in a while that I've accomplished something. In person I have a pretty foul mouth but that's not going to impress someone on the fence when he or she is wading through the arguments that are being presented for one way or the other. I'd rather the other person start ranting their anger. I'd rather be cool in those moments. What you believe is what you believe and in the end you hope you are right. This world is a war between those who want a better world for all and those who want a better world for themselves. My war is for the world of people--that also means that even when the lesser evil argument shows up I still see it as evil.

Thank you for the advice. Should have read your post before posting once again to Pro and Con. I am not so foolish as to think that I am always right or that I am even halfway right in what I feel or think regarding some of the subjects on Pro and Con but I am always amazed at the lack of common sense. I don't know enough about how government works or what our situations with other countries may be but it is not so hard to dumb it down and look at how I would want to be treated. Pretty simple really. Perhaps too simple ? Seems people want to WIN or score points, even on a teeny tiny little blog (in the grand scheme of things) someone has to win and someone has to lose. What most can't seem to get a grip on is that we are all in this together....when we hand over power and get distracted by insignificant issues , we should not be surprised when things have changed while we spent time worrying about trumped up outrage.

Anyway....thanks for the post. I have carpal tunnel....been thinking of saving my wrist for a while now. Tim obviously dislikes me...can't remember why or when that happened but it did....I don't take these posts all that seriously and I hold no grudges against anyone...not even lawecon who seems to have disappeared. This medium is very one sided. Sometimes wonder what would happen if the Pro and Con group were to all sit down and have a beer together (I know, pretty Obamaish) Then again, maybe we would have to have an ambulance on call ?

Take care Goddard. Kind of you to post.

Hi Goddard,

Thanks so much for your message (and apologies for the late reply). There are definitely some similarities between our views on blooms and reading and the kids off books we like to read/collect. It's always nice to come across another like mind.

I like very much your suggestion of using the tag "LibraryThing first appearance". That appeals very much to me and I think there is no reason it wouldn't work well in concert with the ULTB tag. Your tag does a better job of identifying rare or uncommon books on LT with the LT member who first catalogued it. The benefit it has over ULTB is that it would be a permanent tag, remaining accurate even after other members may have finally added another version of the same title. I still think there is a place for ULTB, which would allow members to see across LT how many unique items there are (though I see this as probably really only a temporary measures as I think the LT metrics and stats should eventually allow people to slice and dice book catalogue data any way they like, including for unique or low volume items (e.g. less than 3, less than 5, less than 10, less than 20, less than 50, less than 100).

That's really interesting re American Subversive. It's actually one of the books I have yet to read. I picked it up at a discount (remainder) bookshop and thought it looked interesting. What did you think of it as a read?

Re Rick Harsch, thanks for the tip. I'll be sure to check him out.

Kind regards,

A Walk on the wild side by Nelson Algren

Here is the link for you, use it and share it my friend.

You might find other treasures hidden there.

I'm off to the library w/ the kids.


I just read your note on Ice to India.......I'm intrigued.

Can't find the book anywhere....let me know if you find it!
Sounds like a good read.


That sounds very interesting! I'd be delighted. I received your book -- you were not kidding about the size. Looking forward to wending my way through it now that I'm off the road for a time.


Thank you for the welcome :)
Thanks for the tip. I'm always looking for good reads.
Yours just arrived today, too! I am also delighted. A
Thanks! Looking forward to reading it.
Heh. I figured you meant the first chapter was up or something. Fair enough!
Haha! Thanks for letting me know! I am in the process of packing up books to move right now, so will likely google the first bit to read while they are in transit. Good to know ;)
There are great reviews of Rick's _Arjun and the Good Snake_ on LT. I have not written one - it is hard to write reviews on people's books when you know the person - I intended to write one but am now intimidated at how good the ones already there are. I tend to not do reviews on LT unless I see that I have something to say that is new, different or contradictory to what is out there.

I highly recommend it though. It was sort of a memoir, but very entertaining, about his time in India with his kids and their adventures looking for snakes. It's also about the fact that he went cold turkey on alcohol while he was in India and contrasty events that had happened at other points in his life (mostly in Slovenia) when he was drinking. It was a very weird experience and unlike any book I've ever read (and I read Peter Weissman's two memoirs as well!)...

So you have written a book too. How do I get it? Will my local bookstore have it?
Yeah, found it amongst a pile of flats that I hadn't cataloged yet. I thought it had sounded familiar.
PS Where's the roll of banknotes?
Ah, yes, I'd forgotten that one. I've reposted it as a review, as it seems to sum up my feelings about the book quite well!
Heh, heh! My apologies for trying to read between the lines, assuming you were anticipating a review! My blog has corrupted me, lol...but on the good side, I rarely pay for a book!

Share your address with me, and I'll get a copy in the mail to you as well.
Harry, I had forgotten how rough I was on the book till I re-read my comment. I had thought I looked on the book less unfavorably, but I conclude my thoughts favorable to Jaures are probably inspired more by my reading Roger Martin du Gard's great work, Summer 1914 (which I read 16 Feb 1963 and which made a lasting impression on me and which I have never forgotten). Until I read that book I did not even know of the assassination of Jaures. The book made such an impression on me that when in 1986 I obtained borrowing privileges at the Morningside College library here in Sioux City and saw the biography of Jaures to which you refer I at once wanted to read it. So that is where I was able to get and read the book, I never having owned it. All the books listed by me in LibraryThing are books I have read--in fact every book I have ever read in full is listed by me in LibraryThing. I own hundreds of books but most of the books I list I do not own. So I am sorry to disappoint you, and if I did own the book I would be glad to send it to you.
:) Didn't mean to sound terse, by the way, I just happen to be stealing company time, as I'm not yet depending on social security ... soon, I hope!

The deal is, I review a couple books a week for various sources, which fills all my reading time. However fantastic a book is, if it doesn't fit the profile of a religious blog, it might not get read ... or it may take many months to read. A 700-page novel, hmmm.

Nevertheless, of course I will swap if your expectations of review are reasonable! I admit curiosity. I'm at:

Lee Harmon
The Dubious Disciple
7122 Ivy Ridge Lane
Lino Lakes, MN 55014

About my book: It's titled Revelation: The Way It Happened, and is more historical-critical than inspirational, being about first-century beliefs/politics/dreams. It didn't seem to rate well here on Librarything, though it got great reviews on other venues.
regarding a book swap: why, sure, if you're up for a mutual review.

I happen to operate a religious book review blog at, and post reviews in multiple places, so I could give you some exposure if the book is a good fit (meaning, if it's thought-provoking religion-oriented). Don't see your book on Amazon, so ... when was it published, what's it about, how many pages, how do people buy it?

my email:
Four pounds? That is a book! I do have heavy duty shelves, so no problem there (lots of art books). I would be delighted to read your tome.

Great story about Mac Low. Can't say I'm shocked. Then again, the contradiction between the artistic and personal is something he understood, at least on some level. He wrote a semi-defense of Pound, with whom he had a personal correspondence for some time. Loved the poet, not so pleased with the man for several of his more notorious stances.

Thanks for the nod on the interesting libraries.
Sorry, G. I wish I didn't have as much on my paten as there is, and I am remiss in remembering to bring the dang book with me in the morning so I can send it out from the secular office. I'm sending it by FedEx on Monday.

Your reviews are a joy to read in all their vast stretches and succinct descriptions. I marvel at the specific phrases and the general insights that you provide. Amusing and delightful, they are a pleasant distraction from world affairs. This fan urges you to carry on with vigor and vim.
Thank you, sir. I have not yet run across that name, but I will keep an eye out!
Hello Goddard,
I apologize for being so late in responding. For some reason, I have only just seen the message that you left on my profile.
And yes, I very much enjoyed "Nell of Branford Hall." I recommended it to my sisters and my friends, and I remember it very well, even though I read it many years ago. The story has stayed with me, and a friend and I once had a heated discussion as to which book was the better: Jill Paton Walsh's "A Parcel of Patterns," or "Nell."
Also, although I cannot identify your quote, it is beautiful. Might you be persuaded to reveal the answer?

~ Jordan
Just noticed the character names for your book here...

Not only do we share stage and radio experience, we also "identify" strongly with one of our characters---my character Sena Quaren is also the "co-author" of my novel :-)

What a meaty reply :-)

I'm still wondering about the parameters of LT "friendship" but imagine it, in some way, boosts "connectivity"?

Zoltai is Hungarian, though I can never state my father's country without mentioning my mother was Scottish :-)


Interesting---I, too, have had experience on the stage and in radio...

As far as holding "The Reader" in mind while writing:

My recent book was written for nearly "everyone" (treading near aiming all over...) and, due to my study of various psychological theories, I believe that, if one reaches deep enough, they reach a "collective" consciousness...

Doing that also "abstracts" the "reader"...

I ended up with a "niche novel" that I hope can "speak" to anyone but demands the person, somehow, tune-in to their membership in the human "family"...

And, could you elaborate a bit on your meaning here: "...the vital task of matching stykle to substance is wholly dependent on the writer's ability to establish the verbal, emotional, and intellectual premises of the piece..."

Very interesting what you say about CLOTHO'S LOOM...

I've had one person who read my novel say it made them page-back to make sure they were "getting it all"---and, they weren't being negative---they were surprised because they "never" did that :-)
Well hello HarryMacDonald! Thanks for the warm welcome. What is your book about? I always like to meet new people on my life's journey. Please keep in touch.
Ah! Bert and I. Now that takes me back. Well, stay warm. I'm sure we will bump into each other again soon when I post some crotchety response about the value learning to write for the readers rather than for the vanity.
Mr MacDonald - Thank you for the welcome. I wouldn't be so sure you are old enough to be my grandfather, but I did live in Millinocket Maine as a child where our idea of cable TV was watching the bears at the town dump. Now I live in the Florida woods where we have even more bears than in Maine! I'm happy there is a mix of people here and not just ebook folks. I enjoy hearing different view points but on some sites it is all ebooks all the time. Where in "upper New England" are you?
I just looked at my Wishlist and see that I recently added that book based upon a recommendation from somewhere/someone. So I put things like that on the list until I find out something else about them. How good would you say it is? Diane
Hello Goddard,
After staying-up until 3 am reading, all I can say is I am enchanted by Sylvestre. Any recommendations on additional books by Anatole France, to read after I finish this one, would be most welcome.

Hello HarryMacDonald,

The mailman finally arrived today with the eagerly awaited book package that you sent! Thank you so much for the wonderful copy of The Crime of Sylvestre Bonnard by Anatole France; it is perfect and I know I will probably stay-up half the night reading it.

Having just finished Thoreau’s Walden, it will not come as a surprise to you that I am looking forward with anticipation to reading his book Excursions, which you were kind enough to enclose, and which I have not previously read.

However, what really put a smile on my face was the inclusion of the song lyrics, especially the first one on the title page…you’re not psychic by any chance, are you?
Thank you once again for such a great selection of reading material!
Best wishes, GoFurther
Peace be with you, Goddard:

Yesterday's mail brought me a very large package from you. My goodness, I've never seen a galley that large in size! I used to carry around commentaries and history texts that large while in seminar - power lifting! I'll start reading today - it being my Sunday off and there won't be the necessity for a post-liturgy coma. I love the quote about the heresies on the back cover.
Huh! That is odd because I had appreciated your post on a thread in the authors group, and had already been to your profile page today or yesterday. Hi! Nice to meet you. Catholic, not Episcopal, but yes, Trinity Episcopal Church is just across from the Old Post Office. A beautiful building. I list it as a favorite because of their annual book sale.
Yes, I try to phrase my contributions precisely in the Pro and Con and religion groups, as I know they can be torn to shreds. I've learned to ignore a lot of what goes on, but occassionally I find entertainment and/or good minds. See ya 'round.
G'day Goddard!
Thanks for your message. Hope you had a good Christmas. Yes, we probably do have a lot in common, although I am not so sure I would rate the literary merit of Gospel of John quite as highly as you. Having said that, the King James Bible has a wonderful lilt to it. I also think that despite a few very good things said here and there in its pages, the supposed wisdom of the Gospel of John is overrated. The doctrine of vicarious atonement, for instance, seems rather short in wisdom and morality to me but that is a conversation for another time. So, given a choice, I'd rather stick to Shakespeare and Montaigne.
I haven't read Anatole France yet but will bear your tip in mind.
Anyway, I've just got back from a pleasant day of driving through the hills with the missus and I'm about to crack open a cider before settling down to watch the end of the day's play in the Test cricket.
So cheers!

Thanks for the tip. I'll pick up something of his next month, or order anyway. Right now I'm reading through Kandel's enjambment of cogsci and culture in Vienna. If you're interested in that direction, McGilchrist's The Master and his Emissary is rather well done, though some of his argument itself less so. Enjoy the pagan festivities...
Hi Goddard,
I grew up in Benld but moved away in 1954 while still in high school, to St. Louis, where my dad found employment. He was a coal miner and could not pass a physical because of mine injuries. We played in the high school band from 4th grade on, going to district and state contests and then joined the union in 8th grade and played in several City bands. Joyce Tarro ran the Coliseum when I was there. Her father was killed for fear of turning state's evidence in the 1920s. Local minors could get served in my day. A class mate's father ran all the slot machines and then there were the houses of ill repute; one in the city limits. There were still connections to Chicago gangsters when I lived there. Graduated from Washington University in St. Louis and moved to Minneapolis and then farther north. What and where did I make my comment as I forgot? Who is Harry MacDonald? Did you have any connection to the area? I was in Benld last year just months before the Coliseum burned. Times have changed.
Ted C
Hi Goddard: That might be of interest. I do occasional reviews on my blog and share them everywhere the author requests. However, I don't take on reviews without seeing at least a sample (not a description) of the book in question, and I'm having a hard time locating one for HJ. Just business--in the case of long books especially (like mine,) the commitment is fairly substantial. And of course, I don't like to do reviews if they can't be positive ones. Can you link to, or provide, provide a sample?

In answer to your question, no, my login doesn't have anything to do with Pietown Books. I lived in SF from 1972 to 1998 and thought I knew all the bookstores, but I'm not familiar with that one. It's a great name - isn't everything associated with pie appealing?

Piemouth is a character in a comic strip done in 1906 by Lyonel Feininger, who was also an Expressionist painter. I saw his work at a big comic art show in LA and bought the reprint:

My turtles are mere infants of 6 years. They should get to 30 or so.

I think I'll add you to my interesting libaries, too. Thanks for writing.
That was bizarre. "Where are you going, Alice?" appears to be a campfire song for the Scouts, and I found nothing chilling about it, so I have to assume we're talking about different songs.

"Charles Guiteau" is the 19th century weirdness that led Foster to write "Hard Times". Songs like that just bewilder me. Yech!

But the search was fascinating. Imagine still singing a song about this dead assassin! *boggle*
And a good Yuletide to you, and your loved ones!
Hi, Goddard,
Looking forward to your Kolodin story. I know nothing about him: from his photo on Wikipedia he looks more like a retired rugby player than an opera critic!
Always happy to discuss trains.

I just posted a review of The composer as listener - thanks again for reminding me of its existence!

Hi Harry

I do believe I have, or at least had, a Bonner wrench catalog kicking around somewhere. I'm in the process of moving from Dedham to Plymouth over the next few weeks which means everything is boxed. It's also possible the Bonner catalog could have been sold at one of the Nashua NH tool auction tail gates that I usually sell at. Or not. Once moved, I have to sort through everything to determine what goes where. Only thirty odd boxes, down from the 200+ it used to be before I decided to do some serious down-sizing.

I've been woefully inadequate in updating LibraryThing, a mistake I'll rectify in 2013.

And yes, Henry Carey Baird was not Henry S. Baird.

Do you ever get to the Hubburdston flea market? The one that's too far from me but one that I've always wanted to get to?

Take care and stay warm

Thank you for your response. I am, however, curious about where we expressed views on discussing books with strangers. Could you direct me, as I can remember neither the content or the location of my statement?
Yeah, Harry, I'm still out here but at 83 (as of next week) it is always iffy. I'm flabbergasted to get a response to my ancient "Wisconsin Cheeseheads" posting from years ago. I'm glad that you, too, remember Papa Hambone. He was one of Madison's characters.

I have returned only a few times since leaving in 1980 -- most recently last year when we attended our granddaughter's graduation there. Some friends took us on an extended city tour, and I was astonished at the changes -- many of them good in my view. People of vision have more often prevailed than in many more pedestrian cities. The Frank Lloyd Wright Civic Center is awesome. We were told that the Overture Center in what was formerly the Capital (State?) Theatre plus Monkey Wards is a beauty though we could only enter the lobby. State Street, thankfully, is still State Street. The East Side, which was a near slum when I was there is now thriving. And Paul Soglin is once again mayor (for the 3rd time I think).

I don't recall the Tenney Sphere and can't find it on the web. You'll have to enlighten me.

I admire your library which is decidedly eclectic (Chinese furniture, Black Coffee). I had to get rid of 26 boxes of books when we moved to a retirement community. Did manage to save my three collections just so I can look at them on the shelf and fell good.

Thanks for writing.

Dave Stewart
Sorry for the name confusion . . . I was in a hurry earlier . . . I'll have to check out the "real" Harry and his Twin Cities/Chicago links . . . There are quite a few of us here with ties to both of those fine cities.
Thanks again,
Thanks Harry, You made my day! Best wishes, Lucinda
"Dawn Ginsberg's revenge by S[idney]. J[oseph]. Perelman... I am hardly surprised that there has been heretofore, no record for this on LT..."

There is. You spelled it rong.

Yes, but don't forget to watch out for obstacles on the tracks!
It's a title of a song by the band Whiskeytown.
Good to hear from you. Glad you liked my review of 'Tales of the City' and for directing me to your review of 'The Night Listener' which as you describe it, certainly seems a more interesting story altogether.
Best wishes
Hi Harry,

I just read your post in the Working-Class group and thought I'd say hello. What a wonderful list of books, particularly the Harvey Swados and Jack Conroy recommendations. I tried to create a group read there a while back, but I think that group is dead. I've thought of perhaps starting a new group called Working-Class Literature, thinking maybe the current group name is a bit confusing or vague (do you have to be working-class right this moment to join it?, etc.), but I'd guess that wouldn't get much traffic either. Oh well. It seems that the narrower the subject, the less likely the group is to survive. Even author groups (like the Faulkner group) are pretty dead.

Which brings me to my next point. I read your thoughts on the challenge groups, but I would say that the 75 challenge group has the most interesting discussions and high traffic, due to the broad interests of its members. A smart fellow like yourself who writes good reviews would be welcome and would probably enjoy the discussion. Food for thought anyway.

Take care,
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