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About meMy interests are predominantly history (British, European, American) and span the periods from Ancient Greece to the 21st Century. My favorite periods are Tudor-Stuart England and Colonial America through the Early Republic. I also collect literature classics, again with a heavy concentration on the Brits.

About my libraryCollector of Easton Press, Franklin Library, Folio Society books (and to a limited extend also Limited Editions Club and Heritage Press)

GroupsEaston Press Collectors, Folio Society devotees, Franklin Library Collectors, George Macy devotees

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Ha - thats brilliant. She sounds like my type of woman. Did she leave a contact number !

PS - still waiting for FS to get back to me about your book. I will chase them on Monday.
I have forwarded your comments to Andrew, and he may reply directly to you.
The FS staff apparently love it if they feature by name in the forum, so it may be worthwhile posting something about Sally and Jasper in the public arena.
I have six of the twelve volumes of the History of England and I could pick up the other six for about $60.00 total but my interest do not really extend to later english history. On the other hand, I am somewhat of a completest and it is an amazing price. Any thoughts?
I thought you were going to emaill me about your address so I did not check for a PM. last Friday, Ken Weber bought the suject book under the condition he could return it if he so desired. I thought you had lost interest when I didn't get an email from you.

I am sorry for the confusion, but if Ken decides against the book, I will immediately let you know. I will have to post on LT that only emails will be used if buying a book. I apologize.

I have been so busy trying to get out my new Icart Don Quixote before Christmas. There is a post about it on LT George Macy Devotees with a thread labelled Don Quixote started by Django.

The chip missing at the top right is what keeps the book from being Fine. It is so small I or the seller didn't notice it until it fell of several months after buying the book. There is some very minor offsetting from the title page to the adjacent page. All the rest of the book is Fine.

I have located a picture of the spine which I can send you if you provide your email address.

The slipcase is covered in paste paper with multiple scratches as they generally have.The Monthly letter is missing. The slipcase is sound, but scratched. If disatisfied,you can return the book for a full refund except for postage. Media Mail postage and delivery confirmation so you can track it will be about $6.

I paid $255 for the book and am discounting it to $150 because of the chip.

Don Floyd
Thank you for your interest in my Folio Society books. I have posted a list at

I am willing to negotiate prices.

-- Laura

Thanks. Photo received. Good work; my set of illustrations is now complete.
Any idea how many 'authors copies' exist for the number of different titles? I counted at least three signed/un-signed versions over five years. Wondering, does it truly make the limited unusual numbered volumes any more scarce than normal printings or does it really matter?
Hello. I would trade it or sell it. How much is easton selling I would certainly give a discounted price.
Thank you for your interest.
Oh well. It was worth a try at least. Maybe you will get another one soon here.
Ah man, sorry about that. A thought is they might be regional. Maybe the 'A' at the end stands for America? Just guessing you are in the UK.
No problem. The code is LE18A. Hopefully it works without a hitch. I'm not sure if codes are attached to an individual or the same across the board.
p.s. Have you been reading that thread about the guy who lost all his books in a shed fire? Makes a Folio collector shudder....

sorry, I was actually trying to respond to someone else and must have clicked your message by mistake. The sale price of The Rose was $60 - I don't remember what the regular price was but I want to say $90. The ones on ebay - they were new, but not fine. Did you notice that? The description said the books were fine, but the slipcover of one had multiple dings and the slipcover of the other had a bumped corner (and bumped corners are usually crushed corners). It took a long, long time but Folio Society finally found me a nice copy.

Got it....I mailed them out yesterday
No problem, I'll set up the Dropbox folder next weekend then. Do you by chance have the Sandglasses for Twice Told Tales, Paradise Lost, or Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea?
I am misinformed. The Chicago scene I am thinking of was from Sister Carrie. An exerpt follows.
BTW, whereabouts in Chicago do you live? What do you do there? I lived in Greektown and loved that area. Chicago is such a fine town and I one day plan on returning; the city just has this energy and history which is just sublime. My Maggie Girl of the Streets volume actually takes place in Chicago, and one scene takes place at the bridge on Harrison just after the huge post office there.

Your question about courtesy titles intrigued me so I did a bit of research. The ever useful Wikepedia explains -

"If a peer of one of the top three ranks (a duke, marquess or earl) has more than one title, his eldest son, not himself an actual peer, may use one of his father's lesser titles 'by courtesy'. However, the father continues to be the substantive holder of the peerage title and the son using the peerage by courtesy legally remains a commoner. If the eldest son of a duke or marquess has an eldest son, he may use a still lower title if one exists.
For example, the Duke of Norfolk is also the Earl of Arundel and the Lord Maltravers. His eldest son is therefore styled Earl of Arundel. Lord Arundel's eldest son (should he have one during his father's lifetime) would be styled Lord Maltravers. However, only the Duke of Norfolk is actually a peer; his son Lord Arundel and his hypothetical grandson Lord Maltravers remain commoners."

So you are right. A son of a peer would use a title courtesy of his peer father and yet he would still be a commoner and therefore eligible to the Hose of Commons. As soon as the father dies the son would take the peerage and move up to the Lords.

I like the FS Art of Love, but I don't have it. I have the EP version from the Reader's Choice series. I like it and, unlike other books in that series, it is well illustrated.

Hello Sean

I love questions like this.

With respect to the Duchess of Atholl, the answer is simple. As the wife of a Peer she would not have the right to sit in the House of Lords - that right accrues to her husband, the Duke, and can not be delegated or acquired through marriage. Despite any aristocratic blood she may have had and despite her marriage to a Peer of the Realm and her title, she was a commoner and as such could stand for election to the House of Commons, even though her husband was sitting in the Upper Chamber (the House of Lords).

The more complex question is whether or not a Peer of the Realm can sit in the Commons. The answer (at least Pre-Blair) is that to do so the Peer would have to abandon his peerage. There is now a prominent and very popular Labour politician, called Tony Benn, who was previously known as Lord Anthony Wedgwood Benn , Viscount Stansgate. He is still active now. I think it was in the 50's or 60's when he decided to run for a seat in the Commons. He put himself forward as the Labour Party candidate, was elected and was told he could not take his seat because as a Peer of the Realm he was disqualified from sitting in the Commons. The resulting controversy led to the Peerage Act of 1963 which allowed Peers to renounce their Peerage to sit in the Commons (assuming they had been elected and won a seat in the Commons). Post-Blair, Peers can no longer vote in the Lords (but they can still attend and contribute to debates)so a Peer no longer needs to renounce his peerage to sit in the Commons.

As for the situation in the 16th Century, I am unclear on that. What you have to remember is that the Tudor Parliament was very different to the one that developed from the 18th Century, so it may have been possible for a Peer of the Realm to sit in the Commons then. A Tudor monarch could do pretty much anything that he/she wanted to do anyway, including stuffing the Commons with favourites to ensure that the monarchs will was done.

I have never heard of the title "Lord" being used as a courtesy title by an MP until they inherited a peerage. You may be confusing this with "Life Peers". A Life Peer is not a Heriditary Peer (such as a Duke or Viscount). Life Peers are usually distinguished politicians or distinguished individuals from other walks of life who are "elevated" to the peerage. Once in the House of Lords they affiliate to the political party that has put them there and can vote on legislation. They have real power and are very important - rather like the Senate in the USA. They are referred to as "Lord" but when they die their peerages are extinguished with them and are not inherited by their heirs. There are also "Law Lords" who are our senior Judges and Lord Bishops from the Church of England who are all Lords by virtue of the offices they hold, can debate but can not vote in the House of Lords.

It is confusing. Look up Tony Benn and the Peerage Act on the internet and you may get some more information.

I hope this helps.

I'll send you one (Folio tote bag). Just give me your address. I am sure shipping won't be very much - it's lightweight and will easily fit in a padded envelope.


Happy New Year? I hope you had a good Xmas. Boston may be no London but its a great city. I visited there in 1997 and I loved it. Of all the US cities I have visited it was the one I felt most at home in - it still has something of an English feel to it.

So you are still going through the 12 volume Churchill? That is quite a marathon read. I have some grand reading plans for this year, including reading through Shelby Foote’s massive work on the American Civil War and catching up on some poetry reading. I also want to read some of the outstanding Dickens novels I have yet to read as well as catch up with some favourites I have not read for a while (I have neglected Dickens for a few years and this seems an apt year to renew my acquaintance with him). The BBC’s schedules are crammed full of Dickens adaptations and documentaries this year, and we have already had a few over Christmas, including a very good adaptation of Great Expectations with Gillian Anderson (of X-Files fame) as Mrs Haversham. The problem I have is that most of my Dickens novels are the oversized FS editions (the Nonesuch facsimiles). Now these are wonderful and beautiful editions for sure, but they are huge and as I read quite a lot on the train they are not suitable. I guess I shall just have to read them at home and take some non-fiction book to read on the train - but generally I don’t like having two books on the go at once and I could never have two fiction or two non-fiction titles to read at once.

There seem to be shipping issues with FS recently, judging from some of the comments on the Board. I know FS are excellent are re-shippiong but a 30% damage rate is not acceptable. One thing EP are good at is packaging - I have never received a book from them that has been damaged through poor packaging. I think you should certainly raise this with the FS so they can address the issue.

Thanks for the Info in the FS Kelmscott Chaucer's and their paper usage!
I'm new to this site and it's a bit odd to find my way around. - Tom
Greetings Folks!
I'm very new to this site, but enjoy it very much.
Can anyone tell me if the (2) Klemscott Chaucers published by the Folio Society USE the VERY SAME PAPER??
(2002 Limited) (2008 Unlimited)

Thanks !!
What an incredible result with the FS Pepys, Sean. You were very lucky. I still say the FS is an amazing company producing superb books and with exemplary customer service. But the issue for overseas customers is their international pricing policy. This is the one thing that EP have got right(although they are not getting much else right these days). The way things are going with EP, they have become the Laurel and Hardy of the fine press world. They should never have released Gullivers Travels - they would have gained more respect by admitting that the edition had gone wrong and pulping it.

On the FS LE's, I don't think FS will catch on to what we are doing or question it. But if you are concerned then order a a few LE's at once. In the unlikely event that I am questioned I shall say that I have won the lottery and am feeling very generous.

I love the FS Fairy books. They look great lined up on the shelf and are certainly worth collecting. I may read all of my volumes over Xmas - when I finish the 4 volumes of Icelandic Sagas I am currently enjoying.

Hi Sean

How are you. Sorry I have been out of touch for a while. I have been through a really busy period with work and I had to travel outside of London for a while to attend court hearings. You have probably noticed that I have not been posting much recently.

Did you send me that link for the ebay auction on Franklin Library Notes? I remember you saying they were easily available and I have been tempted by this auction, but I held of this time.

I have not bought that many books the past couple of weeks. The last one I bought was the FS Cicero - I am still a fan of that book you know, but it does seem very divisive - you either love it or you hate it.

I received my replacement Aesop. All the plates are intact but there is that peculiar scarring to the leather on the second volume. I also received my replacement Gulliver. The leather is ok on this copy but the spine is internally damaged with a loose bit of card in the centre. I suppose I could glue this in, but I should not have to undertake repair work on a brand new LE. I think this LE is very poor and I am quite disillusioned with EP over it and will think carefully before I buy another EP LE. I know their customer service is great but it is a hassle having to complain and then to wait weeks and weeks for a replacement copy. EP may just loose a significant portion of my custom over this.

Did you get the Pepys LE? Are you happy with it?

Yes, my set is slipcased for each volume. At first (in 2003), when this LE was released, there was an option to buy each volume slipcased, or no slipcased but the whole set in an oak box. But when I bought it in 2006, there was nor more box option (probably too expensive and too heavy for the FS). I made a fake oak box afterwards...

I wanted to thank you for the Readers Notes. I received them yesterday, beautifully protected and intact. They have come to an appreciative home.

I called the Scret Society of Folio Limited Editions as well. They were quite charming. I enquired about the Faerie Queene and it seems they are about half way through the limitation so no prospect of selling out before Christmas. Should I decide to order she has reserved a copy for me, so there is one waiting for me, with my name on it for when I want to order.

It's great that Peter Sydney called Faisel. But you are right - I doubt all the LE's are quality checked before dispatch. I hope they review their relationship with BindTech. They don't seem to be up to the job.

Let me know when you need some FS books sent from your UK cousin.


Than-you. It is interesting to note just how low some LE runs have become. I thought there would be more copies of the canterbury Tales left. 100 is negligible and I think that LE will sell out within the year. I will call and ask about the Faerie Queene. I am determined to get this edition as I think it looks beautiful and leaves the EP edition standing in the dust (in comparison, not that the EP version is a bad edition, just less luxurious). The Aeneid has run very low as well, considering the limitation was 1750. What always surprises me is that the Moby Dick has not sold out. That is a beautiful edition and has been around a while now. I think Moby Dick is a novel that divides people - you either love it or hate it. I personally love it - it is so odd, quirky, encyclopaedic, pedantic, biblical and generally mad all at the same time. Night Thoughts has never appealed to me. What surprises me about the Les Miserables LE is that they have sold any copies at all.

Thank you for your comments on my partnership. Guess what - I have already rewarded myself with books. But then I was rewarding myself with books before and I probably will be into the foreseeable future.

Take advantage of those offers while you can. There is certainly something odd going on at Folio. I think they are moving to a more hard-nosed business model. If that is what they have to do to survive then so be it. I think too many FS members have become spoiled over offers and freebies down the years which is why we are seeing quite a bit of discontent on the FS Devotees. But there is no excuse for treating members differently.

No other new books for the past couple of weeks. However, I am also a comics collector (British and American) and I am pleased to see that the EC Archives are coming back into print so I have pre-ordered these. I don’t know if this means anything to you?

Thank you Sean - I really appreciate you sending me these Notes. You know they are going to a good home. And yes, the odds are on that I will be picking up the FL Gullivers Travels as soon as I can track a copy down (in the brown leather).

I have calmed down a little after my online rant at EP. I am being sent a third Gulliver and a second Aesop so we will see how those turn out. I am going to send one defective Gulliver to Faisel (Ironjaw), a really nice guy who you will have seen posting. My second copy is going to my mother.

I will go back and see if I can edit that message out.

Best regards


PS - My first draft of this message I left on my Profile page instead of yours. What was that I said about book lovers having the same DNA !!!

I received my replacement Gullivers Travels today and it’s damaged again !!!! It has some kind of silver over spray on the back cover - I think you reported the same on one of your copies. Anyway, I have requested a third replacement but I am tempted just to request a refund. Truly shocked that this can happen. There are some serious quality issues at EP. How I wish the Franklin LIbrary had not gone bust.

I have not had a response from EP yet about this or the Aesop. But then I found out that today is a public holiday in the USA (Happy Colombus Day !).

Anyway, third time lucky with the replacement !


This is fantastic news. No wonder you have had such a great Friday. I am more than happy to be your generous cousin as I am most certainly your cousin in spirit as we obviously share the same book mad DNA.

So you know have the delightful task of deciding what to order and when. As soon as you are ready just let me know and I can let you have my bank details and we can pull the trigger. I assume when I order I just have to give your delivery address and all will be taken care of?

Its interesting to see at last the rationale for high prices to customers overseas. I never really believed that the FS were deliberately milking the overseas market in that way.

Of the 3 of the 4 LE’s that you are interested in and that I have I would say they are all beautiful books. You know my feelings on Moby Dick. Aeneid is not as spectacular but nonetheless it a beautiful and quite restrained classical binding with a lovely leather aroma (yes, I sniff my books). The Gill Chaucer is one of my favourite books. The Roberts is spectacular as well, but portfolios of art don’t have a huge appeal to me which is why I have held back on the Roberts and Birds of Paradise volumes. But I can’t deny their beauty. Birds is particularly vibrant, the colours just jump of the page.

I have been looking at he Spenser Faerie Queene again. I am finding it difficult to stop myself buying it now. I am going to get it, but ideally I want to wait until December. I have just ordered Gullivers Travels and will not finish paying until December, plus the EP Aesop and Ovid which I wont pay until the end of November. So I want to stagger myself if I can. When I asked at the Members Room they though the Spenser would be around for a few more months yet, so I should be safe to wait, if I can resist the temptation. I understand you are really happy with your Spenser.

Anyway, great news Sean. Just let me know when you want to order.

All the best


Yes - those are the Franklin titles, all from the 100 Greatest series. And thanks for the tip on the Franklin Gullivers Travels. I will look out for that. I am very impressed by the quality of the Franklin books I have picked up so far. I picked up the Mann, James and Defoe volumes in a small bookshop in Arundel, West Sussex. All three were in mint condition and each cost not much more than £10 - 12.

I have the same problems with digital scales. I can never get a consistent reading from them.

Temple of Flora looks beautiful and will almost certainly be the heaviest of the four (and the biggest). Because of it’s dimensions it would almost certainly be Parcelforce. Check out their services. The most expensive service is about £35.00 (if I remember correctly). If that covers the weight of the book I think that would almost certainly make it worth your while as I believe the US markup on this title is quite a lot more. But as you are the accountant I will leave you to figure that one out - we lawyers are hopeless with figures!

I think all 4 of the titles that you have listed are still in print. I think the lady you spoke with has probably made an error.

I have heard of Parcelforce. They are a courier service owned by Royal Mail and I think they are ok. Here is their website -

I own 3 of the LE’s that you are interested in. Unfortunately, I do not own any scales so I can’t weight them for you (I must get a set!). The heaviest is Canterbury Tales - I just tried to weight that on my digital bathroom scales but they refuse to weigh anything that is not shaped like a human being.

Let me know what FS say and then we can work out the cost of postage.

Sorry, wrong Royal Mail link in the last post. This is the one you want -
I would be glad to help. Royal Mail does discount international postage for printed matter, which helps keep the cost down a bit. The problem is assessing weight. As you know most FS LE’s come in very large boxes. You need to try and get a handle on likely weight of the volumes you want. You could email FS and give them some bs about needing to know the weight of some LE’s as you want to judge whether or not your bookshelves are strong enough, etc (or maybe we can dream up a better excuse). When you have that info, add on a few kilos for the boxes and then you can get a rough guide on postage using this link -;jsessionid=PMZWBB2KRM1W0FB2IGKUPLQ...

I reckon the savings on postage over US cost would make it worthwhile.

Let me know what you think.


Sean - I had not seen that post. Thanks for the link - this sounds like a godsend for me. Another excuse to traipse around London's streets, map in hand, tracking down elusive bookshops.
HI Sean

According to Amazon it is 24 x 17.2 x 4.2 cm. It's about 420 pages and so it is quite heavy. I will bring it with me and if you feel it is too heavy but you still want it then don't worry, I will be more than happy to post it on to you. I know what it is like when you travel and you need to conserve weight.


You have just mentioned in one of the threads that you would have liked to receive Britannia:100 Documents that Shaped a Nation from FS. I have received this but I don't want it. If you want I would be happy to let you have this when we meet. Let me know.

Hi Sean

Yes, Rabelais is the only FL title I own so far. If you do have a spare copy of the notes that you can part with then I would love to have them, thank -you.


Friday 9th September is good for me. Shall I email you a few days before and we can arrange where to meet? Aroind 1.00 is going to be the best time. If you are heading for the British Museum we could meet around there, but I'm flexible. It will be good to meet you and have a natter.

Hi Sean

Unfortunately, I have court hearings on both of those dates !!! I have plenty of other free dates knocking around. Have a think - you can always email me the day before if that is easier for you and if I am available we can meet. I know what it's like when you are on holiday - it's not easy to plan ahead but you may find yourself at a loose end on one or two days. If it doesn't work out, don't worry.

Bring rain gear - it's pretty wet here at the moment.

My work email will be the best one for you to use -

Hi Sean

I would be delighted to meet you, particularly as we share so many of the same interests.

I work in London but I live outside the city. My home is in a town called Berkhamsted in Hertfordshire, about 30 miles north of London. If you are familiar with Norman and Plantagenet England, you may have heard of Berkhamsted. It's where William the Conqueror accepted the Crown of England in 1066. He built a castle there which became a favourite country retreat of the Angevins and Plantagenets. The Castle fell into disuse and ruin under the Tudors, but the remains are still there to be seen.

Perhaps we could meet for lunch one day in London. My office is in a part of London called Islington and it's quite easy for me to get to any point in the City or West End. If that is likely to suit you let me know and we can sort out a time and a place.

All the best

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