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Hi Walf6:

I am very interested in the relations of the Greek states and Iran during the classical era of Greece . I have always assumed that the Greeks of the time when Homer was composing had never heard of Ahura Mazda; and that most of them had never heard of Iran (classical name: Persia).

I find it hard to believe that Homer would have Hector criticize the Greeks for not worshipping Ahura Mazda. True, when Hector speaks, an Anatolian, not a Greek is speaking, but the speech was composed by a Greek, just as the speeches in "The Persians" of Aeschylus are the supposed speeches of Iranians, composed by a Greek.

Centuries later, entering the 4th C. BC, [Xenophon], a marginal member of Socratesʻs group, may well have heard his boss, the rebel Iranian war lord Cyrus the Younger, swear by Ahura Mazda. By this time many Greeks probably knew of the Iranian supreme god. But even Xenophon does not record the name Ahura Mazda. He perhaps "translates" it, having Cyrus swear by Zeus.

I would like to find out what part of the Iliad (Book # and line #, if possible) carries the implication that Hector upheld Ahura Mazda. Or, more likely, which commentator?
He was he hoopy frood who knew where his towel was.
Persian Fire is awesome. If you haven't read it all yet, when you are done you will be very impressed I'm sure!
Thanks! I keep thinking I should change the quote, but, but ... it's so ... TRUE. I can't bring myself to remove it. :-)
I can imagine that you miss them everyday!
The one you see is a very old and sneezing lady, but she is so cute, intelligent and kind…
As friend she has a very lovable grumpy old man, a little bit demented (singing aloud so that neighbours came inquiring). She is a half sphinx, half devon rex, he is a choclat devon rex. We had them from an animal shelter and never regretted the day they took over our household.
Walf6 ... Do you recommend Finkelstein's The Bible Unearthed? And did you happen to see the documentary aired in November on PBS by NOVA entitled "The Bible's Buried Secrets: The Origins of the Israelites and the Torah"? I'm curious if the two stories and their conclusions mesh to any great extent.

In certain respects the NOVA special was startling in its conclusions. For one: the Exodus consisted of a half-dozen or so men, who settled in Jericho, soon after the Cannanite inhabitants had overthrown their rulers. Fascinating stuff.

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