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1timspalding
Edited: Aug 29, 2007, 9:19pm Top

As many of you know, today* is LibraryThing's second birthday. Abby, Casey and I are finishing up the blog post. Anyway, there was some clamour about how LT should use the occasion to announce the completion of one of the much-requested features.

Well, this isn't collections, but it's in the top ten, I think: Suggested viewing styles for your library.

You can now set a "Suggested display style for visitors to your library." Visitors then get this as an option when they look at your library.





Caveats:

1. This was a very quick job—I was working under presure! I'm going to refine the look of this considerably. I *hate* those damn yellow boxes that come up when you look at someone else's library.

2. Right now it only covers the columns in list view. You can't set cover view as your prefered style. (Should you be able?) And it doesn't cover the number of books displayed either. I think the latter is good; we don't want to subject someone—particularly someone with a dial-up connection—to a 100-book display.

3. Did I mention I hate the yellow?

Anyway, happy Birthday! Celebrate it by ripping into this, eh? :)

*Probably. Actually, I'm beginning to think that although the first blog post was on August 29, I didn't actually open the site up until the next day. I suspect that most start-ups that STARTED as a start-up (not as a hobby) know what day they were born!

2LolaWalser
Aug 29, 2007, 9:23pm Top

Cool. I won't use it, but cool.

So, the stragglers can wish LT a Happy Birthday tomorrow too? I must try that trick next year for mine. :)

3infiniteletters
Edited: Aug 29, 2007, 9:33pm Top

Cosmetic note: if you're going to use the yellow, can you have the "suggested style" box merge with the "you share books with this user" box?

As is, there's a little bit of whitespace between 'em.

ETA: For actual functionality, seems good to me. :) It might be helpful for organizational account' "suggested styles" to be the default view, especially those used by libraries.

4sabreuse
Aug 29, 2007, 9:32pm Top

1> Selfishly, I like that it comes up in my view first. Take this as you will.

(and 2> In doing some non-birthday-related bloghunting I noticed that there was a whole big "Yay LT" party on the first anniversary -- on Aug. 30, 2006. By the time my next b-day rolls around, I'll be looking for a way to parlay that into a 5 year gap.)

5LolaWalser
Aug 29, 2007, 9:44pm Top

Tim, although I stopped using your suggested display, I see your "Date" column with the publication date, instead of my default entry date column (display style "D").

#4

Once you pass 35, award yourself 3 years for every chronological one! :)

6_Zoe_
Aug 29, 2007, 11:12pm Top

Could you add a quick link to get to their catalogue in their suggested style from the profile page?

7Heather19
Aug 29, 2007, 11:15pm Top

1: I'm glad you don't like the yellow, neither do I. But I love the feature!

Happy Birthday LT! *throws confetti*

Heather

8timspalding
Aug 29, 2007, 11:28pm Top

Oh, good point. We'll here's mine. But mine's not interesting. Someone who's got an interesting one want to post?

9dchaikin
Aug 30, 2007, 12:18am Top

Very nice, thanks!

Can a sort order be added? Just an idea.

Also, a sort order would be relevant for a cover view. (Somewhere I came across a user whose library was sorted by color of the book cover if you sorted by the tags. I would like to hear their input.)

10timspalding
Aug 30, 2007, 12:52am Top

Hmmm. You can get a permalink. What are you suggesting—a "click here to get the suggested sort order"?

T

11LucasTrask
Edited: Aug 30, 2007, 12:55am Top

timspalding wrtote:
Oh, good point. We'll here's mine. But mine's not interesting. Someone who's got an interesting one want to post?


Here's mine.

12timspalding
Edited: Aug 30, 2007, 1:02am Top

That IS interesting.

13timspalding
Aug 30, 2007, 1:03am Top

God, those are great.

14dchaikin
Aug 30, 2007, 1:04am Top

#10 - Oh, I see. Of course the user is already in the catalog, so it's kind of too late to sort. I guess I would like to set a default order to my library for all first views. Currently, it's the "LT ID" for all libraries, which means every single user who views my library sees the 1st few books I put into LT, back when I was first experimenting with what LT can do. Naturally, I would rather they see my favorites or some other order. Anyway, for me this is small stuff, just an idea.

15timspalding
Aug 30, 2007, 1:06am Top

I think it's by title if there are no cookies set. Let me check.

16pivox
Aug 30, 2007, 2:24am Top

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17pivox
Edited: Aug 30, 2007, 3:32am Top

Great :-) thanks for that new feature Tim.
A few comments:

1. When browsing someone's catalog as a visitor (not logged in) and you choose to view it the owner's proposed way and you make a search for an author it then displays as usual the books by that author, but there ain't an "all books" link anymore - the one that let's you toggle back to all the books

2. "And it doesn't cover the number of books displayed either. I think the latter is good; we don't want to subject someone—particularly someone with a dial-up connection—to a 100-book display."
I agree on the default setting. But how about adding the option that allows to choose how many books are displayed, option that already exists in the cover view and that is available on your own catalog as well when browsing someone else's catalog (logged-in and not logged-in)?

3. "You can't set cover view as your prefered style. (Should you be able?)"
Sure, why not :-)
Speaking of which, I don't know if it is a but or if there is any reason to it, but could it be made that when resizing the covers in the coverview not only the amazon-fetched covers get resized, but the user-uploaded ones too?

4. Could it be possible to have this option of a suggested style also when you are logged-in and browsing others catalog?

5. Last but non least :-) Would it be at all possible, when clicking the link for the the owner's suggested styles to give visitors access not only for one of his styles but all of them?

And happy birthday :-)

Message 6:_Zoe_:
"Could you add a quick link to get to their catalogue in their suggested style from the profile page?"
Would be perfect :-)

Message 4:sabreuse:
"Selfishly, I like that it comes up in my view first. Take this as you will. "
I second that ;-)

18timspalding
Edited: Aug 30, 2007, 3:47am Top

>the books by that author, but there ain't an "all books" link anymore - the one that let's you toggle back to all the books

Blech. I'll keep that in mind. All that code needs a good beating.

>I agree on the default setting. But how about adding the option that allows to choose how many books are displayed, option that already exists in the cover view ...

It's worse that that. If you're not logged in and try to hit "edit" on the styles area, you get a frame-within-a-frame. More beating.

>resizing ... user-uploaded ones too

We can resize in two ways: in HTML or on the server. HTML resizing works great on some browser, and super-crappy on others. That's why we're not resizing them. Server-based resizing or on-the-fly resizing is super processor intensive. Amazon can serve up any size you want instantaneously and for free. That's not something we can accomplish.

>Could it be possible to have this option of a suggested style also when you are logged-in and browsing others catalog?

You don't? I do. It only works with libraries that have such a style set, however. Most don't.

>5 LolaWalser:. Last but non least :-) Would it be at all possible, when clicking the link for the the owner's suggested styles to give visitors access not only for one of his styles but all of them?

I think not. I'd rather keep it simple—one default style.

>"Could you add a quick link to get to their catalogue in their suggested style from the profile page?"

No. I think that's overkill.

Having seen the reaction, I think this is one of those much-requested features that will not actually get used much on either side. (This is a "V Chip Feature." Everyone wants it; nobody uses it.) A talk post and a major blog post, and only 30 people have even *played* with it. Tag Mirrors—a "fluff" feature, as angry members insisted—was played with by hundreds in the same timeframe...

3:46am. 15 3/4 hours of work. Goodnight!

19pivox
Edited: Aug 30, 2007, 4:15am Top

It's worse that that. If you're not logged in and try to hit "edit" on the styles area, you get a frame-within-a-frame. More beating.
Had noticed it some time ago but always forgot to post about it.

About resizing:
I see the problem. So basically, all users who have painstakingly scanned and uploaded covers (I'm sure I must have about 200) are at a disadvantage here. Would it be then possible to have a feature (at least in listview, where the covers are really small) triggered by a mousover/hover or a click on the small cover (I sent you an email once about that one with detailed description) that would display a pop-up window with a fixed-size bigger version of the cover (you wouldn't have to do any resizing, just display the biggest version of the cover you have in store like the one on the social info page for instance - but it would be nice if eventually you could have somewhat bigger covers than the ones we can find there now). I'm sure I'm not the only graphic-oriented one around here ;-)

About not many talk about your new feature in comparison to the tag-mirror:
Well this feature isn't a feature you can play with on and on - you either turn it on or not. And once it has been turned on there is not much else to do about it. It is nevertheless quite useful. Would be more useful if all the owner's styles where available (my friends won't have access to the summary field and the review field which in my case I intend to use a lot). But I understand now that you have no intention to do so :-(

Anyway thanks again

20timspalding
Aug 30, 2007, 4:28am Top

>Had noticed it some time ago but always forgot to post about it.

We often miss non-signed-in problems. We tend to use the site signed-in.

> but it would be nice if eventually you could have somewhat bigger covers than the ones we can find there now

We're going to play with storing larger versions, and some sort of facility for resizing them automatically. The storage and processor-time issues are not small, though.

> you either turn it on or not

Right, and not to complain, but few users have turned it on. Basically, however, I spent the day on this feature because I knew I could finish it before the blog post, and because it was "in the path" of a general "your library" redo.

> my friends won't have access to the summary field and the review field

Well, they will. They just won't have access to exactly the layout you'd want them to see. I may rethink when I get the final UI.

T

21reading_fox
Aug 30, 2007, 4:42am Top

I like it, But it really needs to 'remember' which column to sort, or for the owner to set it as a preference, or at least suggest it.

I view my catalog sorted by tags, this doesn't work very sensibly for many other users, and I don't suppose their views work so well on mine. I've put a notice on my profile but you can't see it when you are in catalog view!

22pivox
Edited: Aug 30, 2007, 4:49am Top

Still in the office ;-) ?I thought you had gone to bed. Well thanks for all the answers :-)

I guess it is a bug, but I was viewing my catalog not being logged-in and somehow when switching between the styles (A, B, C, ...) it kept being the same style.

Well, they will. They just won't have access to exactly the layout you'd want them to see. I may rethink when I get the final UI.
Hmm, as far as I know, the default LT view for not logged-in visitors doesn't include the summary field and the review field in any of the 5 displaystyles...

Good night :-)

23timspalding
Aug 30, 2007, 5:16am Top

My eyelids are drooooooping.

24ryn_books
Edited: Aug 30, 2007, 8:07am Top

I don't think this will work for me. It's either a bug, something with my firefox browswer or because I've customised my display styles away from the non default ones. Either way it's causing me a negative LT experience, even when I've turned it off.

Basically, my current favourite view is my customised (D).

I played with this new feature and selected my current favourite view of (my) D to display to others.

Problem - the D choice doesn't stick.
It changes to my display style A when I visit anycatalogue that has turned this new feature on. (I haven't clicked the use-it)
Result - I'm suddenly looking at their catalogue in my display style A. I go back to my display view style for visitors to my library. Now the drop-down says I'd saved as (A).
Sighing I change it back to (D). Continue catalogue surfing. Continue to view people's libraries in my usual viewing preference of (D). Until I click on someone's catalogue who has turned this feature on....
My viewing option reverts to (A). I go back to my display edit options. Sigh, Change to (D) again.

Actually I did that for as long as it took me to figure out what was happening. I've now turned the feature off as it's just not pleasant being forced out of my preferred viewing style into another view option because I happened to visit someone's library who'd also read the blog/this post.

But sadly, I still have this annoying experience everytime I visit someone's catalogue who happens to have turned this feature on. Not good.

Is this a bug, or do I have to change all my customised styles around and live in (A) so that from now on I can continue to visit catalogues and view in the option I prefer?
Cheers, ryn

25jimroberts
Aug 30, 2007, 8:48am Top

#24 ryn_books
My experience was similar, I guess the new (and very welcome) feature isn't stable yet. As a workaround, I've recustomised my style A to be what my old preferred style (B) was, and made B do what A used to.

26reading_fox
Aug 30, 2007, 8:59am Top

It works normally for me. IE7 on XP - first time ever that IE works when firefox doesn't?

You do seem to very the other person's catalog in all the other person's style though not sure if this is a bug or a feature.
(example I was viewing my catalog in A, you go their catalog and view it, defaults to A but THEIR set of A fields not mine)
However returning to my own catalog all is fine.

27barreb First Message
Aug 30, 2007, 9:04am Top

OK, I have a stupid question: how does one actually turn this on? There doesn't seem to be a link to it in the blog post, and it wasn't in the place where I thought I'd find it (account settings). What am I missing?

I'm wondering if this is why people haven't been making much use of it--it's not intuitively obvious where to find it! Or maybe it is, and my intuition is just broken. Any help would be much appreciated.

28jimroberts
Aug 30, 2007, 9:07am Top

It's on the edit page for your catalog views.

29DaynaRT
Aug 30, 2007, 9:13am Top

I've noticed that since this feature went live there's a problem with editing styles. All of the columns I had set to show nothing (--- in the drop down list) have been changed to "cover (small)". I have to change this every time I edit styles as my selection is not persisting. Firefox 2.0.0.6/Vista

30_Zoe_
Aug 30, 2007, 9:14am Top

>"Could you add a quick link to get to their catalogue in their suggested style from the profile page?"

No. I think that's overkill.

Having seen the reaction, I think this is one of those much-requested features that will not actually get used much on either side.


Well, it's lucky that you don't think people will want to use it, because if it were something that people would use all the time the unnecessary inefficiency would be incredibly annoying. If catalogue loading were always super-speedy, this wouldn't be a problem except for the people on dial-up, but it's not. And the catalogue is already very inefficient in terms of frequently requiring three clicks (followed by three waits for the page to load) when one would do. Plus there's plenty of space on the profile beside "see catalogue" to add another link.

I actually think the tag mirror might be more used partially because it's prominently displayed on the profile page. Not everyone reads the blog or this group.

31ellen.w
Edited: Aug 30, 2007, 9:21am Top

Yay! I've been hoping for this feature, although as you say it might not be a heavily-used one.

Two suggestions:
1) Please don't let people set "cover view" as the default, or at least make it different (a separate link?) from the default columns view -- I never use cover view and don't like it at all. (If I'm outnumbered here I'll concede gracefully, but it looks like very few people have commented on that.)
2) Can the default view apply automatically for visitors who aren't logged in?

P.S. I agree with the person who suggested that we be able to set which column it sorts by, too.

32barreb
Aug 30, 2007, 9:35am Top

#28: Thanks so much. I guess my intuition was broken. :) Actually, I do think the placement is a little buried. It's probably the appropriate place for the setting, but it's not something people are just going to discover randomly (like tag mirror). I'm guessing most of us set our viewing styles way back when we entered our libraries and haven't bothered to go back to that edit page since. As people discover it, though, I'm sure it will get more use.

Also, I completely agree with #9 and #21 about the sorting by tags. I designed my tags so that certain books would show up first and in particular orders. I never realized (until today) that the only reason my library was always showing up sorted by tags was because of cookies! If we could set that as a preference, that would be great. The default title sorting means that 1984 shows up as my first book. Since I read that when I was a kid, I'm not sure it's really the first book I want people to see when they come to my library. I'm tempted to start deleting books until a more sophisticated book shows up first. :) Maybe collections will make this unecessary?

At any rate, I like this feature and am glad I found it!

33infiniteletters
Aug 30, 2007, 9:35am Top

I think it's reasonble to let people set cover view as a default.

34reading_fox
Aug 30, 2007, 9:40am Top

Just to 2nd #31 - I don't use cover view, and would hate to see it as default, unless the catalog I'm brousing doesn't have any information in the other columns

35readafew
Aug 30, 2007, 10:05am Top

The point of the owners choice it to display it how they like/feel it's important. If you don't like their view, don't us it, as simple as that. IMO

36doogiewray
Edited: Aug 30, 2007, 10:10am Top

My 2 cents: Like some others, I've put a bit of effort in choosing tags (and, more importantly, their order) so that, when sorted by tags, my library will appear in a way similar to any public library (in that music books are all together, as are poetry and fiction and how-tos and, within a given category, a given author's books will be all together, too (e.g., Shakespeare or Tom Robbins).

So, I wish I could make my default view for visitors be Style B sorted by tags (though, on the other hand, I like just the visual joy of cover view (sorted by tags)).

Thanks again (and again) though, Tim, for all you've done over the past ten years (oh, does it only seem that long?)!

Douglas

"In the end, only kindness matters."

37timepiece
Aug 30, 2007, 12:14pm Top

Aaahhh! Can you put back the option to not use all the columns, so some of the remaining ones display a little wider? I was doing that on three seperate views (my usual screen is in potrait orientation, so more columns is not necessarily better for me).

Other than that, I love the new feature.

38rjohara
Aug 30, 2007, 12:36pm Top

An excellent feature. Many thanks.

I'd second the call to have the sort-order built into this -- that to me is a fundamental (perhaps the fundamental) aspect of a catalog's presentation. If someone walks into a library, the first thing they they encounter is how the books are sorted on the shelves.

And if someone isn't logged in, I'd just send them straight to the default presentation. No need to ask if they want to see it or not -- that can be a perk for the advanced users (i.e. logged-in members).

39timspalding
Edited: Aug 30, 2007, 2:00pm Top

Logical foul-up

Sorry. I had a logical bug in the code that, if you didn't have "use it" turned on, showed the member's style *number* among your style choices. That's fixed now. Apologies.

> All of the columns I had set to show nothing ...

Should be okay now. I changed the top menu choice because starting with ---- seemed ugly. Apologies for the unintended effect on some browsers.

> Well, it's lucky that you don't think people will want to use it, because if it were something that people would use all the time the unnecessary inefficiency would be incredibly annoying...

I find this hard to explain and very power-user centered in a profile context. "See X's catalog, but using X's prefered fields, not the ones you're used to" is just wiggly. We've got a lot of features competing for the new users' attention. I'm not sure this should have a lot of stress.

It's not going to go up by "Books Cataloged XXX — see catalog" but I'll cave here and agree to put it down in the URLs section. Can someone propose the shortest (but also understandable) label for it?

> Can the default view apply automatically for visitors who aren't logged in?

This I'm very much against. The confusion this can create—"Wait, why aren't I seeing ratings any more?!"—is much more of a danger for new visitors.

> I'm tempted to start deleting books until a more sophisticated book shows up first.

You could rename The Critique of Pure Reason as *Aardvark's The Critique of Pure Reason.

Okay, a proposal to change this:

How about if Edit Styles has an area for suggested and another for suggested sort? When a user entered, they'd get a choice. Choosing it would flip your style to, say, a circle with a user in it, but keep the (A) (B) (C), etc. next to that. It would also flip the sort, but allow you to re-sort any way you wanted.

40DaynaRT
Aug 30, 2007, 2:06pm Top

>39 timspalding: Should be okay now
Yep, my choice of nothingness is being remembered now. Danke.

41pivox
Edited: Aug 30, 2007, 3:08pm Top

I think this feature is great. Better than nothing really, and I hope more will come to complement it (suggested sorting & more) ;-)

Thanks for your fast troubleshooting too Tim.

Even though I keep thinking the the suggested view should be default for not logged-in visitors, I can understand Tim's reasons agains it. I gues this is just a case of personal preferences.
However as someone stated it, "the less click to get somewhere, the better" -well that's me saying it but it was something along these lines. Thus I think it would be a sensibel and userfriendly idea to add to the existing "see catalog" another link labeled something like "see catalog in owner's suggested view".

42jimroberts
Edited: Aug 30, 2007, 3:17pm Top

fleela
Just looked at your profile. You claim to be an adulteress (The Scarlet Letter)!
Just joking. I know what you mean. I think I'll use it too.

(Edit: Done. Took it from http://www.librarything.com/userpics/fleela.png?rnd=9177.)

43_Zoe_
Aug 30, 2007, 3:41pm Top

Can someone propose the shortest (but also understandable) label for it?

Maybe "catalogue X's way"? (And if you ever happened to have a change of heart, I think it would be simple and clear to say "Books Cataloged XXX — see catalog (or see it X's way)", with "see catalog" and "X's way" being links.)

It bothers me that there are now two spellings of the word catalogue in my post, but I'm certainly not going to change the correct one just to match the other ;)

You could rename The Critique of Pure Reason as *Aardvark's The Critique of Pure Reason.

I love this!

How about if Edit Styles has an area for suggested and another for suggested sort? When a user entered, they'd get a choice. Choosing it would flip your style to, say, a circle with a user in it, but keep the (A) (B) (C), etc. next to that. It would also flip the sort, but allow you to re-sort any way you wanted.

I'm not entirely clear on how this would work, but I'm glad you're doing something to include sorts. It would also be nice if looking at a user's catalogue with their recommended columns said somewhere what their recommended sort was, so that you could decide whether it was worth changing to. If someone said their catalogue was best sorted by tags, I might want to look at that, but if they recommended sorting by author I probably wouldn't bother.

44Osbaldistone
Aug 30, 2007, 7:26pm Top

A minor issue with setting the suggested display style.

Everytime I open the edit views screen, the "suggested display style" window is set to "Display Style A", even though I set it to "C" last time. So, everytime I make any change to any view, I have to remember to select the suggested display style back to "C".

Os.

45achesonblog First Message
Aug 30, 2007, 10:56pm Top

Late as usual but 'Happy Birthday, us!'

46LucasTrask
Aug 30, 2007, 11:05pm Top

Tim, thanks...I think.

47barreb
Edited: Aug 30, 2007, 11:43pm Top

>> I'm tempted to start deleting books until a more sophisticated book shows up first.

>You could rename The Critique of Pure Reason as *Aardvark's The Critique of Pure Reason.

Ha! Nice call. I'm thinking I should take the "the" out, though--implying that Aardvarks are equally concerned with synthetic a priori judgments (and, really, why wouldn't they be?)

As for the sort feature, that sounds great--but if you think it will makes things too busy, that's fine. This is not the end of the world. I'm sure those of us who sort by tags will be able to play around with collections to get around the problem.

Thanks for the hard work!

48reading_fox
Aug 31, 2007, 4:29am Top

#39 "How about if Edit Styles has an area for suggested and another for suggested sort?"

Would be perfect!

49SqueakyChu
Edited: Aug 31, 2007, 9:55am Top

Is this a bug?

In the non-logged-in mode, the *full* BCID number is disclosed to the public. I thought that the first three numbers were to be hidden from others when on public view. That's important to BookCrossers so that no two identical numbers exist for the same book. If that cannot be corrected, I'll have to edit the numbers on each book so that the whole string of numbers cannot be seen by others.

50readafew
Aug 31, 2007, 8:58am Top

49 > if thats true it is a bug, and Tim & Co should know to fix it.

51timspalding
Sep 1, 2007, 6:00pm Top

I really can't replicate that. Indeed, I can't replicate seeing them *at all* if you're signed out. They're not on the default A-E styles, and you can't change styles unless you have an account. If you're in, you see XXX for the first digits.

Is it possible you're signed out and looking at an old window, or maybe something cached? Do you have a steps-to-reproduce I can follow?

52SqueakyChu
Sep 1, 2007, 9:49pm Top

You cannot replicate it because this morning I changed the screen seen by visitors to completely eliminate the BCID and left my (signed in) view with the full BCID.

Do you want me to change it back so you can investigate if there is a problem for others?

53melannen
Sep 2, 2007, 1:30am Top

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54melannen
Edited: Sep 2, 2007, 2:00am Top

Happy birthday! And ooh, thanks for the new feature!

It wasn't on my list of top requests only because every one of my collections ends up using a different set of columns. (Bobbsey Twins needs the "Other Authors" fields, parascience needs the reviews field, fiction is sorted by tags, nonfiction needs Library of Congress sorting and subjects, etc...)

So, um .... will we be able to set a different default view for each collection? It would be nice if I could send people to see this collection on default view with all its neat columns, without having to send other people to this collection with half the displayed fields blank. Even just being able to specify in the permalink would be very cool.

ETA: Sorry, double post. Also fixed links.

55pivox
Sep 2, 2007, 3:18am Top

Similar to what I suggested/mentioned several times - it would be nice for visitors not to be limited to only one "owner's suggested view" but for instance to be able to see all of his 5 syles :-)

56heyjude
Edited: Sep 3, 2007, 2:05pm Top

I hate to be really dumb about this but - just how and where do you set up your suggested display option? I see nothing about it at my profile page, nothing on my library catalog page. So how do I do it?

Duh - I found it. Hidden at the bottom of the edit screen. Sorry for the whine....

57_Zoe_
Sep 3, 2007, 2:05pm Top

On your catalogue page, click on "edit" beside the display styles (A B C D E).

58bpc
May 22, 2008, 5:56pm Top

I just upgraded to an organizational account for my church and suggested a style that works best for us. However, when I view the catalog, it's not the default - I have to select view the suggested style. Can't the suggested style be set to default for a catalog? It would mean one less step for folks who aren't especially computer-savvy.

Lynn

59jjwilson61
May 22, 2008, 6:25pm Top

If you look closely there's a message that shows up for viewers of your library (you'd have to log out or log in as someone else to see it) that says something like this user has a preferred display style for their library, click here to use it. This may not be optimal for your setup, but for a more usual LT user who is looking through other people's libraries it would be quite disconcerting to get a different style for evey library.

60jjwilson61
May 22, 2008, 6:25pm Top

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61infiniteletters
May 22, 2008, 6:27pm Top

58: People have brought that up before, but it hasn't happened yet, and may never happen.

62kathrynnd
Edited: May 22, 2008, 8:25pm Top

I don't think it should happen. I've set up a display the way I wish to view books in another user's catalog that includes publisher, date and entry source information. I may check out a suggested style later.

63JFDR
Jan 24, 2011, 12:53pm Top

Is this feature still active? I set it on my library and don't see it when I log off. I also don't see it on any other libraries. I like the feature a lot. Thanks!

64lorax
Jan 24, 2011, 1:02pm Top

I don't see it on yours either, but I do see it on mine if I log out. You may want to try setting yours again; I'd guess that you may have just been looking at libraries that didn't have it set. Do you see it on my library?

65timspalding
Jan 24, 2011, 4:49pm Top

I logged in as you. It is not set for your account. Go to

http://www.librarything.com/editprofile/styles

to change it.

Best,
Tim

66jimroberts
Jan 24, 2011, 5:09pm Top

My suggested style is certainly still available to visitors who aren't logged in. Since I don't have a sock-puppet account, I can't be sure about logged-in visitors to my library.

67JFDR
Jan 25, 2011, 12:53pm Top

I may be looking in the wrong place, but when I went back there I see:

Suggested display style for visitors to your library : Display Style A

This is how I had set it before, I clicked Save Changes, I'll check again.

68JFDR
Jan 25, 2011, 12:58pm Top

Strange, it seemed to have been set when I looked at it, but not saved. Seems to be working now. Thanks!

69kapccbooks
Jan 18, 2012, 5:25pm Top

Aloha Tim--

Sorry to dredge up such an old thread, but I couldn't find a more appropriate one in Talk.

This is another heartfelt plea to enable direct access to the cataloger's suggested viewing style.

We use LibraryThing to create special reading lists, and we use the Comments field to provide links to our local catalog, so that users can see whether the book is available on our shelves and get our call number.

Comments are hidden with the default viewing style, and the teeny "use it" link at the top of the page is not obvious (invisible!) to the vast majority of our users.

If you are still concerned that users will wonder why their ratings aren't showing anymore, maybe this could be something only implementable via URL parameter, e.g. http://www.librarything.com/catalog/kapccbooks/hawaiianfood?style=a. Then I could create useful links from our website that wouldn't interfere with the viewing styles of anyone finding our collection from inside LT.

I will send you a gigantic box of chocolate-covered macadamia nuts and/or Kona coffee if you implement this.

Mahalo for your consideration!

70saltmanz
Jan 18, 2012, 5:33pm Top

@69: I would LOVE this.

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