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1timspalding
Jul 20, 2008, 7:32pm Top

Sunday's NYT had a wonderful article (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/20/arts/design/20dwye.html?bl&ex=1216699200&a...) on a National Library exhibit of Yeats material. Apparently the National Library has his books—some 3k in all.

I think Yeats would be an extraordinary addition to this project. I have a few contacts at the National Library I can ask. Anyone have any leads I might not have? I'm betting the books all have MARC records, and we could get them in bulk, as with John Adams.

2timspalding
Jul 20, 2008, 7:47pm Top

Apparently a printed catalog was made—James Joyce too!

http://www.worldcat.org/search?q=su%3APrivate+libraries+Ireland+Catalogs.&qt...

3timspalding
Jul 20, 2008, 8:02pm Top

Here's a "short list" catalog. Unfortunately the National Library is not on our list of Z39.50s.

http://www.clemson.edu/caah/cedp/YeatsSTC/

It would take some effort to figure out what to use. Ideally, we should get MARC from the NL, but I can't find records in the short-list in any of the NL catalogs.

4timspalding
Edited: Jul 20, 2008, 10:59pm Top

I've started in on the Short-Title list, which seems the best and most recent, assigning 1-100 to myself. If anyone else wants to take a slice, the password is "hazelwood". It's fairly easy, until you hit something you can't find anywhere.

Here's the WilliamButlerYeats user page: http://www.librarything.com/profile/WilliamButlerYeats

5jbd1
Jul 21, 2008, 10:04am Top

Thanks Tim. I'll add him to the lists, and add him to my next email of Legacy-badge additions to Abby. Anybody up for penning a short bio for the profile page?

6WilliamButlerYeats
Jul 26, 2008, 3:13am Top

Jeremy, What do you feel we should do about multi-volume sets. Starting at #76, the Yeats list has 39 Balzac volumes. The library record is a single one.

7jbd1
Jul 26, 2008, 6:36am Top

Hmm. Good question. There probably are individual WorldCat records for each volume since some library or another surely has separate ones ... but generally this would just be one record. I haven't run into sets like this with the libraries I've personally worked on - anyone from Hemingway, Scott or another project tackled this question?

I'm inclined to say do a record for each title, since that would certainly help with shared numbers (and since he didn't have all forty volumes) but it's up to you.

8thorold
Edited: Jul 26, 2008, 7:14am Top

What I've been doing with Scott (and did with Marie Antoinette) is make a single entry for multi-volume works if they were published as sets. When I combine stuff, it looks as though the other 18th & 19th century libraries are doing the same.

But it's a bit of a mess - when you look at author pages (Balzac included) you always find at least some people cataloguing the individual volumes of collected editions (possibly because they don't own a complete set), and you can never combine these sensibly, because each edition distributes works between volumes in different ways.

ETA: Conversely, Scott's library also contains a lot of works that were published separately but were rebound as sets by him or a previous owner, especially short works like poems and political pamphlets - in those cases I've made an entry for each individual work and used tags or comments to indicate the rebinding.

9jjlong
Edited: Jul 26, 2008, 8:49am Top

Not an easy decision!

Hemingway owned one complete set of Balzac (Philadelphia, Avil, 1901); we* entered that as one work (partly since it's the whole set, partly because there's no breakdown of each volume available).

He also owned 28 volumes of the 1891-98 Paris (Lévy) set of Balzac's Oeuvres Complètes, which totals at least 48 volumes; these we entered individually, with the contents of each in the work title (see here).

>8 thorold: published separately but were rebound as sets by him or a previous owner..I've made an entry for each individual work: that's exactly how Jeremy set up Jefferson's library. (Pamphlets, and more pamphlets!)

I don't know if this helps... in the end, you're doing the work, so it's your call.

*more accurately, christiguc or spookykitten. Whoever had the B's. :)

10Katya0133
Edited: Jul 26, 2008, 11:12am Top

>the Yeats list has 39 Balzac volumes

If there's more potential for combination, I'd say list the volumes separately. (I.e., if "Colonel Chabert," was published in a single volume.) Or at least list the contents of each volume. (Let me know if you need help finding contents info.)

11timspalding
Jul 26, 2008, 12:49pm Top

I have to say, I am strongly moved to add a "clone book" option. Where should it be? On the edit page, I think.

12thorold
Jul 27, 2008, 4:57am Top

>11 timspalding:

Would be useful - the Edit page is probably the safest place for it, though ergonomically it would be handy to have it on the Add Books page. If it's on the Edit page, could it be made to open a new tab?

It used to be possible to clone the book you just entered by using the back button to return to the manual entry page, but that doesn't seem to work any more (or maybe it just doesn't work with Safari - I was using Firefox before).

13WilliamButlerYeats
Jul 28, 2008, 8:45am Top

I started at 600 and am currently just past 900 and about to get to authors such as Homer and Gerard Manley Hopkins. There are officially 2526 numbered entries in the catalogue, but since duplicates are frequently given a letter of the alphabet instead of a new number, the actual number of books is probably closer to 3000. As such we're about 1/10 of the way through now.

-inge87

14WilliamButlerYeats
Edited: Jul 28, 2008, 10:05am Top

I am aiming to do 200-300, but will check back in shortly to let you know how I'm doing since this is a new toy for me...
ETA actually I've started from 192 which was the first of that author (binyon)

-LittleKnife

15inge87
Jul 30, 2008, 6:27pm Top

On another note, when you click on "See william butler yeats's author page" from his profile, the author name is all in lower caps and there is absolutely nothing on the page. Since author combining is down is there another way to fix this?

16timspalding
Jul 30, 2008, 9:23pm Top

>15 inge87:

Fixed. Thanks.

17jbd1
Jul 30, 2008, 10:48pm Top

Thanks Tim!

18KCGordon
Aug 1, 2008, 11:07am Top

>11 timspalding: If I could just add a vote for the "clone a book" feature. Carl Sandburg has about sixteen volumes of the Congressional Globe and this would be helpful.

19Michael_P
Aug 14, 2008, 4:32pm Top

Hello!!

I'm a new volunteer, a Yeats fan, and was told I could help out here.

What can I do? Where can I start?

Thanks.
- Michael

20Michael_P
Aug 21, 2008, 3:07pm Top

Well, it's been a week, so whenever someone checks this thread and knows where I need to start (so as not to duplicate someone's work), leave me a message.

Thanks.
- Michael

21timspalding
Aug 21, 2008, 5:26pm Top

Hey. We'd love to have you helping out!

Username is WilliamButlerYeats
The password is hazelwood.
The profile is here, http://www.librarything.com/profile/WilliamButlerYeats

You can see a link to the PDF. It has about 2500 books, which are numbered. 1-100 and 600-1600 are claimed. You can claim others here and I'll update the profile, or you can update it yourself.

You'll find some libraries are more useful than others--Dublin, for example.

Best!
Tim

22Michael_P
Aug 22, 2008, 5:14pm Top

Cool.

I assigned myself 100 or so in his profile.

Happy cataloging.

- Michael

23timspalding
Aug 23, 2008, 12:00am Top

Cool. I'm glad you didn't bite off more than you can chew. I find it takes time...

24Michael_P
Aug 25, 2008, 3:24pm Top

Added ten today, about half were manually added.

Hope I placed all the right information in the right sections. If I'm doing something wrong, let me know now, before I do too much more work. hahaha

25mountebank
Dec 21, 2008, 10:11pm Top

Hello Team Yeats! I'd be honoured to help out with Mr. Yeats's library. I hope you won't think me terribly rude if I follow the instructions set out in Message 21 and get down to work? I'll follow Michael_P's lead and take books 301 to 400.

26mountebank
Dec 21, 2008, 11:24pm Top

Hello again, Team Yeats. I'm off to the races, but wanted to leave a note re: multiple copies, having recently read through the debate about Hemingway's multiples (http://www.librarything.com/topic/33759).

From the Yeats master list:

309. Bunting, Basil. Redimiculum matellarum. Milan: Grafica Moderna, 1930.

309a-d. Four more copies.


Having no reason to doubt that these are identical copies, I have simply entered "5" in the Number of Copies spot on the Edit page. I hope this is appropriate; if anyone has any comments/issues, please let me know.

27timspalding
Dec 21, 2008, 11:36pm Top

I think that's the right approach.

28mountebank
Edited: Dec 22, 2008, 3:32am Top

Thanks for the confirmation, Tim.

Edited to note: have perused the master list (100+) and the library's statistics for multiples already entered (113). Simply noted here for future reference/final editing considerations when all the books are entered.

29jbd1
Dec 22, 2008, 10:46am Top

It's not a bad idea to also enter a note about multiple copies in the Comments field (especially since the Copy # field generally doesn't show up in most browse/search views. But I leave that up to the folks cataloging the individual library.

30mountebank
Dec 22, 2008, 11:02am Top

That's a great idea; I will do so with the Bunting work I entered last night, and going forward. Thanks! And thanks for letting me play; it's great fun and I'm learning a lot.

31mountebank
Edited: Mar 28, 2009, 12:19pm Top

Just to update, I've finished entering the range I selected (I ended up going all the way to 599, so as to meet up with inge87's range).

I will be going back to double check each entry, and hopefully standardize my ancillary notes (e.g., things like "2 vols." have been entered alternatively as a tag and as a comment). I'll also do any combining, as required.

Once that's done, if anyone would like any help with their range, or anything else, please let me know. Otherwise, it's been a wonderful experience, thanks for letting me help out.

32DisassemblyOfReason
Mar 31, 2009, 9:05pm Top

I would like to request an odd range: 2300 to 2526.

(Yeats and C.S. Lewis have some overlap in editions down here in the depths of the list, so at the moment I actually know where to locate some of them...)

33jbd1
Feb 25, 2010, 1:26pm Top

All - in case folks have this thread starred - we're going to finish off Yeats' catalog for the March flash-mob cataloging project - see this thread to join the planning!

34jbd1
Nov 26, 2010, 3:27pm Top

Just a note to finish this off - I found a new version of the Clemson short-title list so (since ESTC was broken this morning and I couldn't work on other projects), I finished up Yeats. I didn't realize there were quite as many left as there were, but no matter - they're in now!

35timspalding
Nov 26, 2010, 4:03pm Top

Really? Let's announce the biggies. I'll start in on a post.

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