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1EmScape
Nov 28, 2010, 9:49pm Top

I have a theory that the ebook reader debate would be over in about 3 seconds if one of the ereader companies would partner with Apple and develop a device that has a eink reader on one side and an LCD tablet on the other side with hinges that swivel all the way around. They could charge $1000 for it and I'd still buy one. One of the best things about this idea is that neither screen would get scratched in your backpack because when closed, they'd be facing each other and protected by the outer side cases. You'd have access to all the Apple apps and the Amazon books. You could read on the LCD side when in the dark and the eink side in the sunlight. Am I alone in thinking this would be absolutely perfect?

2MinaKelly
Dec 1, 2010, 6:26am Top

There are several such devices already in development, most with wifi. Sadly, since most consumers aren't as willing to shell out as you, a lot are stuck in development hell while trying to find a way to lower production costs.

Still, the entourage edge is available for $549. Don't know what it's app store is based on, though (if it has one).

31dragones
Dec 1, 2010, 7:05am Top

Regardless of capabilities, I'll never pay $1,000.00 for an eReader of any kind. That's just a ridiculous waste of funds. My husband bought me a Kindle 2 when they came down to $189. IMHO even that is too high of a price to pay (I'd have waited longer and at least have gotten A Kindle 3 for that kind of money)... but I wanted one, and he was willing to go that far... I love my Kindle, but have no use whatsoever for an LCD tablet / reader or anything similar.

4speciallisa
Edited: Dec 1, 2010, 5:40pm Top

i have an i pod and i love it, it has my ibooks foem apple and my app for amazon with all my books i have got from there also x

5Phocion
Dec 1, 2010, 5:49pm Top

There are several problems with this theory:

1: It's incredibly class-centric. Poor or even middle class could not afford to shell out for a piece of technology, no matter how shiny, that they know will be obsolete in two years like just about every other piece of technology. The existing e-readers are still too high for devices that are re-introduced in an updated version every year.

2: If all companies sided together into one, you'd be creating a monopoly.

6kingoftheicedragons
Dec 7, 2010, 7:04am Top

I agree that such a device would not solve the ereader wars. I also would not pay that kind of money for an ereader. Also, I don't know if I'd buy that kind of device at all. Why have two different screens that would face each other when closed? I like the way my nook is, and it doesn't get scratched when I have it in my bag because I bought a folding cover for it, so I can still open and close it like a book.

The nook has many features I like and wouldn't give up, including the wifi feature, the ability to view my book covers, 2 games (and I'm hoping for more), etc. Is it perfect? No, there is lots of room for improvement. In fact, I almost wish I had held out for the nookcolor. I thought about holding out for an iPad, but now I'm glad that I didn't. The nook is perfect for what I need it to be, and a good size that makes it more portable than an iPad is.

7CurrerBell
Dec 13, 2010, 3:43am Top

As I responded to lilyfyrestorm's similar post on the AMAZON'S KINDLE group, that kind of combination of two technologies just complicates things, and there's more equipment that can break. As a general rule, I try to stay away from combo devices, although as space-savers there's something to be said for combo printer-scanner devices.

8GeekonaBike
Jan 26, 2011, 7:52pm Top

You could just get an old Palm LCD PDA on Ebay for around $10 & use calibre to convert formats to Palms Ereader.

9riani1
Apr 11, 2011, 1:57pm Top

I've read for years on my Palm, but now that I have my Nook, the Palm screen is too small for easy reading. I do love my B&W Nook.

10EmScape
May 9, 2011, 9:22pm Top

Just in case anyone cares, I got an EntourageEdge and I love it love it love it!! They're on sale for $192 so get it while you can!
http://www.amazon.com/POCKET-EDGE-7-0-Black-Dualbook/dp/B0040L5Z3M/ref=sr_1_1?ie...

11LintonRobinson
Edited: May 24, 2011, 1:58am Top

Is there anybody here who NEEDS wifi in an ereader?

Near as I can tell it was developed (and pumped up the prices) so amazon could have a monopoly on reads... and now it seems like verybody has to have it.

Why is it worth the money to have wifi in a reader?

Hell, IPODS don't have wifi

12DaynaRT
May 24, 2011, 8:20am Top

Hell, IPODS don't have wifi

Sure they do.

13AnnaClaire
Edited: May 24, 2011, 1:51pm Top

>11 LintonRobinson:-12
My iPod Touch does, and it's not even the newest model. I've had it a year already, and even then it was cheap because they were about to come out with a new one. (Granted, I usually keep the wifi off, but that's because I don't use it much and it's a drain on the battery.)

14riani1
Jul 26, 2011, 3:12pm Top

I don't use the wifi on my Nook, and keeping that off extends my battery nicely.

15krazy4katz
Edited: Jul 26, 2011, 3:23pm Top

To answer #11:

I NEED an e-reader. I have wanted one ever since the rocket e-readers came out, maybe 10 years ago? I can get books all the time, anytime. I have company wherever I go. Font size is no longer an issue for my aging eyes.

I don't spend a lot of money on clothes, expensive cars, houses etc. Books before 1923 are free. This is my special present to myself.

;-)

k4k

ETA: Sorry, I misread #11's post. Do I need wifi in an e-reader? I do need some kind of connection and it sure is nice I don't have a monthly charge.

16riani1
Jul 26, 2011, 3:31pm Top

I download my books over my regular internet, then load them into the nook.

17WholeHouseLibrary
Jul 26, 2011, 4:13pm Top

@15 - K4K
I've got two of those Rocket ebook devices. One is ten years old, the other is eight; and they'd been on the market for at least four or five years.
They both charge fully and I can get up to twenty hours of reading done on a single charge.

I recently got a Nook (Simple); it's about half the weight, and can go for 2 months between charges... but you can't read it in the dark.

18riani1
Jul 26, 2011, 6:58pm Top

>17 WholeHouseLibrary: How do you go so long between charges on a Nook? I can go maybe 3 or 4 days.

19krazy4katz
Jul 26, 2011, 7:43pm Top

Wholehouse, you are my hero. I really wanted one, but was afraid there would not be enough books to read.

20WholeHouseLibrary
Jul 31, 2011, 11:22pm Top

18 - It's the newest model - the "simple". It's designed that way. Turn off the Wi-Fi and the battery will last much longer. I read at least a couple of hours a day on it, and I'm down at 60% now - from the original charging it got when I bought it, before Father's Day.

The annoying bits about it seem to be centered around page turning. The raised areas on the top side are deceiving. There's only one small spot where each button will work. Some books ignore your pagination preference. If you like Page Forward to be the top button, in some cases you're just SOL. Also, that setting is for the buttons only. You can also page forward or back by flicking you finger across anywhere in the screen, except the very bottom. Likewise, just tapping on the left (back) or right (forward) side of the screen will cause the page to turn - except it's not at all reliable. tap soft, tap hard - it makes no difference, the device will decide to turn a page, or not.

Personally, I wish it had more bulk to it. These devices (all of them, not just the Nook) were designed for smaller, younger hands than mine. I'm still pretty nimble with the guitar, but the newer eBook devices require a different touch. By comparison, my old Rocket eBook device is MUCH friendlier.

21krazy4katz
Aug 1, 2011, 12:53pm Top

20 said, "Personally, I wish it had more bulk to it. These devices (all of them, not just the Nook) were designed for smaller, younger hands than mine. I'm still pretty nimble with the guitar, but the newer eBook devices require a different touch. By comparison, my old Rocket eBook device is MUCH friendlier."

Yes, I agree about them being small. I read my kindle in a cover for that reason. It feels friendlier and is easier to hold.

k4k

22einhorn303
Aug 6, 2011, 11:17am Top

11
>Is there anybody here who NEEDS wifi in an ereader?

I know I don't. It seems that WiFi on ereaders is only there to serve the companies: so you can buy products more often, and are more likely to make impulse purchases without the added delay in purchasing that comes with buying books on the computer, then USBing them to the device.

And I'm sure there are many people like me who read books to *get away* from the internet and all its distractions.

23theapparatus
Aug 6, 2011, 11:46am Top

I have to admit that while it's not really an ereader, I used the wifi in my iPod Touch quite often.

24krazy4katz
Edited: Aug 6, 2011, 12:36pm Top

>22 einhorn303:, "It seems that WiFi on ereaders is only there to serve the companies: so you can buy products more often, and are more likely to make impulse purchases without the added delay in purchasing that comes with buying books on the computer, then USBing them to the device."

Well, I think I make fewer impulse purchases, but that could just be me. When I go to a bookstore, I pick up several books because I know I won't be back for a while. Sometimes, I am not in the mood for them once I get around to reading them. With my kindle, I just download a sample. I only purchase 1 book at a time and only after I have read the sample and I am interested. This is much more efficient. My read/purchased ratio is nearly 100%, whereas it used to be 50-75%. Also, all the books written before 1923 are free in the U.S., so mixing in some classics does save some money.

25CurrerBell
Aug 6, 2011, 1:14pm Top

Some other advantages to WiFi:

The convenience of automatic delivery of magazines by subscription. I only subscribe to one that costs money, the NYT Book Review, but I also started Fantasy & Science Fiction on a freebie (somewhat truncated, but you can buy the whole mag if you find something you're interested in).

Automatic back-up of highlighting and annotations (but only, I'm pretty sure, of books that you've bought through the Kindle Store). I wouldn't rely on the Amazon servers for back-up of thesis or other serious academic annotations, but for casual reading it's quite convenient.

I usually carry my Kindle with me in brick & mortars, so I can check out availability of books at the Kindle Store before I decide whether to buy in treeware. And note, you probably need 3G for this, because it looks like Borders (RIP) and B&N both block access to Amazon through their own store WiFi.

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