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Jul 17, 2011, 9:44am Top

Thanks to the great efforts of Chris Holland (conceptdawg) we've got a brand new, shiny Legacy Libraries homepage. It includes the ability to search LLs (either all of them, or selected subsets), browse LLs by category (like authors or Signers of the Declaration of Independence), and see a whole series of clouds about the LLs.

On the category lists you'll see the new status markers (complete, in progress, proposed, unitemized), and you can sort those by status, name, date, or library size.

And we've integrated info about the LLs into a slightly modified version of Common Knowledge, so each LL, regardless of status, now has an LLCK profile containing data about the person and their library (largely for cloud-creation purposes, among other things). Feel free to augment this data, but please do read the help page first, since there are some differences between this and the way other CK edits are done. Any questions, just let me know.

This LLCK data allows us to do some really interesting things, like display proposed and unitemized libraries well for the first time (example, and also keep better track of project status and other things of that nature.

I've now added all of the previously proposed LLs to the database, and have streamlined the proposed libraries wiki page a little bit. I'll check that regularly and add newly-proposed LLs so that their LLCK profiles can be fleshed out.

You'll also notice some integration of these new features on profile and author pages, and Chris has whipped up a handy "Featured Legacy Libraries" module for your homepage (by default at the bottom of the right column).

As always, please let me know if you have suggestions, questions, thoughts, &c.!

Jul 17, 2011, 11:45am Top

Very nice. I like the floating alphabet for quick jumps to different sections of the LLs (in the index).

Love the LLCK profile format, handy and neat.

Jul 17, 2011, 2:04pm Top

Very cool.

On Legacy Categories: any chance we could add "philosopher"? Maybe also politician, if we have enough of those?

Jul 17, 2011, 3:31pm Top

Probably both Samuel Johnson and James Boswell would qualify as "authors."

Jul 17, 2011, 4:26pm Top

4 - I added "Authors" to them both. This can be done on their Legacy page, in the "Legacy categories" field.

Jul 17, 2011, 4:28pm Top

Suggestion: at the top of the person's Legacy page, where it says "Legacy Profile|Profile|Catalog," would it be possible to add a link to the person's LT Author page, if there is one?

Jul 17, 2011, 4:28pm Top


Jul 18, 2011, 11:47am Top

Jul 18, 2011, 11:48am Top

How about adding a CK field where you could record users who worked on it?

Jul 19, 2011, 5:28pm Top

6> The author page links have been added.

9> Tim and I just talked for a couple of minutes and I'm adding a Contributors field to the LL Profiles. So if you contributed, or know somebody that did, you'll be able to add your member name there and it will link to your profile.

This is important for more than "look what I did," it also let people know who did what and who to go to for answers to questions about the entries, etc.

The field will be like all other CK fields in that you can add parenthetical text after the member name for more information. Multiple entries per library are possible. Examples:

conceptDawg (project lead)
conceptDawg (contributor | 324 books)
conceptDawg (contributor | volumes 1-328 | founder of original data)

These examples are by NO means meant to be templates for your own entries. They're just here to give you an example of the types of things you might do. Please feel free to create a group-wide nomenclature to use for the attributions and parenthetical metadata.

This update probably won't be available until late tonight. I have to go play with a 3-year old until then. :)

Jul 20, 2011, 1:29am Top

The Contributors field is now live.

Jeremy filled in quite a lot of the entries earlier tonight (before I was even finished developing the feature). So you might not have much to add. But double check the libraries that you contributed to and make sure your member name is in the list.

Jul 20, 2011, 1:34am Top

I've also added a data cloud that shows the top contributors to Legacy Libraries. Check out the "Clouds" option in the top navigation bar.

Jul 20, 2011, 6:33am Top

I added data on the completed libraries (and found many more than I thought I would!) I'll work on the in-progress ones too

Jul 20, 2011, 7:28am Top

I've now added all the contributor data I could find, but I'm sure there are some names I've missed, so if you've worked on one of these, please do add your name! Also, the limbo-projects (those about which I have no contact info, &c.) have the LL username followed by (?). If you're one of those, please add your actual username there :-)

Off to blog the feature now, huzzah!

Jul 20, 2011, 11:57am Top

I don't know if anyone else has a similar problem with LT, but every time you introduce a new feature I have a lot of trouble finding it on the site. Legacy Libraries 2.0 is great but other than adding it to the url, how do you get to it?

Give us an easy link to these great features.

Jul 20, 2011, 12:01pm Top

Just noticed a link at the bottom of the page. Sorry I didn't see it earlier,but I still think you should boldly tell us how to find these features.

Jul 20, 2011, 12:12pm Top

It hasn't been launched yet either, so we haven't really been pushing it.

We're officially launching it today.

The bottom bar is probably the easiest because it's on every LT page. You can also get to it via profile pages and author pages of people that are a Legacy Library. The "More" tab at the top has a section for Legacy Libraries and it can be reached from there too.

Jul 20, 2011, 1:50pm Top

Is there a way to see which LL's a particular user has worked on, besides checking the contributer list to all of them?

Edited: Jul 20, 2011, 2:08pm Top

but every time you introduce a new feature I have a lot of trouble finding it on the site
It would be nice if site search could also include an index of other pages on LT, that aren't indexed elsewhere in search. Things like guidelines for authors, terms of service, the blogs, and especially features like this one, ought to be things people would want to find easily. The bottom of the page is well hidden or out of the way most of the time, and sometimes not even visible.

Edited: Jul 20, 2011, 2:30pm Top

What does the "Type: Real" mean?

Jul 20, 2011, 2:32pm Top

>20 MaidMeri: - Real as in the library actually existed (there are a few fictional ones).

Jul 20, 2011, 2:34pm Top

>18 benjclark: - at the moment it's possible to see all the various contributors at:


I'm sure that there were folks I didn't have record of for many of those (heck there were a bunch of libraries I'd totally forgotten I cataloged!).

Edited: Jul 20, 2011, 2:42pm Top

And you can search for JUST your username in Contributors on the CK search/changelog page. Here's the results for benjclark:

Seems that you have been attributed to 7 libraries so far.

Jul 20, 2011, 3:08pm Top

When can we see Thomas Jefferson's wish list?

Jul 20, 2011, 3:31pm Top

>24 suitable1: - I think with Jefferson the Monticello staff who are currently working on adding to his library will be concentrating on the books he actually owned, which is quite enough of a project to keep them busy for a while :-)

Jul 20, 2011, 6:32pm Top

>23 conceptDawg: Thanks! I have files of people I've been working on, gathering library info, and I was curious where I had left off. I had forgotten I'd helped with Melville's. There's also one I've cataloged on paper, but haven't input. It's a dandy too! Now, where did that file go...

Jul 22, 2011, 9:10am Top

Noticed this morning some links are highlighted in the Home module. Mistake?

Jul 22, 2011, 10:11am Top

Yes. It's somehow in our translation system. Conceptdawg?

Also can we redo default order to

Featured Author
Featured LL

Having it at the bottom is too low.

Jul 24, 2011, 5:10am Top

Nice to see that contributor cloud, but it made me realize --- no badges for Legacy Library entry? Hunting through libraries around the world for TJ's history books in an assortment of languages was some of the hardest work I've ever done in my life. :-) Given that I was doing it on an antique computer with a dial-up connection, I think a Purple Heart might be in order. LOL.

Jul 24, 2011, 7:38am Top

>29 myshelves: - well, until now there's never really been a way to track it. We can, however, do so at this point, so it's on the radar screen ...

Jul 25, 2011, 8:22pm Top

I'm loving exploring the Legacy Libraries! One thing that seemed curious to me was the category "Authors" . . . all of the "authors" I know would call themselves "writers" . . . or even "artists" . . . not sure if that is a tag or where that comes from . . . just an observation.

I agree with the comment about having trouble actually finding the feature . . . have to keep going to the blog entry and clicking the link there . . .

Also still hunting for the International Space Station collection within LL . . . but enjoying all the other LLs I'm stumbling upon :)


Jul 25, 2011, 9:29pm Top

>31 LucindaLibri:

Authors - a fairly generic term for writers of literary works.

There's a "Legacy Libraries" link at the bottom of every page on LT that will get you right to the main LL page :-)

The Space Station library, while done as a flash-mob, is still active (and thus not a Legacy Library). Once the space station retires, we'll switch it over.

Jul 25, 2011, 9:35pm Top

>31 LucindaLibri:

In contemporary author-speak—for example when writers talk to each other—author means "I'm published!" Writer means "I am probably not published."

Jul 26, 2011, 3:51pm Top

hmm . . . the one's I'm thinking of ARE published . . . and still say "writer" . . . but I'm guessing it might be different when they meet total strangers and want to make the point in >33 timspalding: :)

still waiting for >28 timspalding: but I figured out how to bump it up myself in "customize this page" . . . still doesn't get me to the general LL page fast enough . . .
could it be a sub-tab in "zeitgeist"?
alternatively make the "Legacy Libraries" part of the "Featured Legacy Libraries" module title link to the main LL page?

I just NEVER scroll all the way down to the footer (on my screen there's almost 2" between the bottom of page content and that footer) . . . I tend to forget that it's there.

Still, THANKS a million! All your hard work has provided much fun for me this week . . .

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