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Your best bet would be to promote your download in this group:
That's been set aside for promotional messages such as this one. Outside of that group, many folks see such promotions as spam. You may have noted the flags on your post.
To this who flagged, while I agree, the poster is a paid subscriber and, considering their helper badges, some what active around here. A gentle nudge to the right group would have been more effective in this case I would think.
Hope this helps,
*sigh* I've already posted in hobnobs, but as not everyone is in every group (at least, I don't think so, I know I'm not), and some groups are overrun with thread after thread that some get missed ... I thought I'd place it here.
Sorry to all those who were offended and flagged my offer of a FREE look at a potential book. I really didn't see it as spam as ...
a) I wasn't selling anything.
b) It's science/fantasy. In my eyes, it made it relevant to this group seeing that this is where the people whose opinion would be needed the most reside.
and c) It really is 100% FREE to read right now! No strings attached, no one twisting your arm. Nothing but a pdf file involved in downloading. You needn't even give any feedback if you didn't want to.
Yes, I'm going to ramble. I get to go through this multiple times a day.
>I wasn't selling anything.
Indirectly you are. You're trying to get folks to buy your book by offering a free sample. You may not see it as such but in the long run, that's what you're trying to do.
Labeling something as spam doesn't involve selling either. Legal definition of spam, is actually the delivery of such messages. You'll see it as such in blog comment spam where a spammer is doing nothing but leave links to whatever site is that they're promoting.
It's also technically a LT's ToS violation under the Other Rules section:
LibraryThing is not an advertising medium. Egregious commercial solicitation is forbidden. No matter how great your novel, this does apply to authors.
Do not subvert or misuse site features.
Of course I personally think that last one is heavily abused around here but it is still listed as part of the ToS.
Again, I just think this could have been handled a lot better. Granted though from the poster's response, I just think they just don't get it.
From the "How Authors Can Use LibraryThing" page:
"Do not post messages in Talk advertising your book."
Rozax: Yes, the link is available on my blog.
theapparatus: Indirectly you are. You're trying to get folks to buy your book by offering a free sample. You may not see it as such but in the long run, that's what you're trying to do.
Let me make this clear: The book isn't for sale. Anywhere. It's in manuscript mode. Not even professionally edited, manuscript.
Yes, in my excitement, I forgot that, after 14 years, it might actually become a book where it would, eventually, be sold. Maybe. Perhaps. If the publisher takes it on. If that had occurred to me, I wouldn't have put it here.
The publisher put up the sample because they're wanting to know what people think of it. Whatever feedback is given - which goes to them, not me (I'm not even sure how many have actually read the sample at the moment) - within the next few weeks will be used towards helping them decide. It may be a 'no'. It might be a 'yes'. Nothing is concrete.
kmaziarz: To be honest, I've been in the 'writer' stage for so long that I forgot there are different rules for 'authors' (do you even count as one if all you have is a barely-known, self-published book?). Some days, times too short to do anymore than quickly peruse what's listed in my "Talk (forums)" section and move on. If there's even time to do that.
Perhaps listing the rules when the "new topic" button is pushed would make it more noticeable. Ya'know, just a "do not ..." reminder. I'm sure I've seen something like that on other forums before. But I guess it'll probably involve a fair bit of coding and I suppose different groups would have different rules.
Again, my apologies if I upset anyone.
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