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1rsterling
Edited: Nov 5, 2011, 4:42pm Top

I've seen several author pages that have a list of numbers in the disambiguation notice. Because this notice appears at the top of the page, these numbers are pushing all the interesting information about works further down.

For instance:
http://www.librarything.com/author/duchampmarcel
Disambiguation Notice
(yid)VIAF:36917441
VIAF:36917441 (reminder)
(mao)VIAF:PND:11852772X
(fre)SUDOC:026840553
(swe)SELIBR:184119
(spa)BNE:XX924619


I've seen this on other authors too, and this doesn't look like information that belongs in the disambiguation notice. Thoughts?

ETA: Also contributing to this problem is the fact that the author page shows the disambiguation notices from all language versions of CK.
More examples:
http://www.librarything.com/author/lamadalai
http://www.librarything.com/author/podlipnyhehnannemari
http://www.librarything.com/author/gysiklaus
http://www.librarything.com/author/haugfrigga
http://www.librarything.com/commonknowledge/search.php?q=SUDOC&f=13&uid=...
http://www.librarything.com/commonknowledge/search.php?q=SELIBR&f=13&uid...
http://www.librarything.com/commonknowledge/search.php?q=VIAF&f=13&uid=3...
http://www.librarything.com/commonknowledge/search.php?q=BNE%3A&f=13&uid...

3rsterling
Edited: Nov 5, 2011, 4:44pm Top

I'm asking here, to see what the policy on this should be, since this is Common Knowledge, on shared parts of the site. I'm pretty sure these are unique reference ID numbers for various library systems, but that still doesn't seem to me to be something that belongs in the disambiguation field.

I should clarify that I'm asking for thoughts on what should be done about this stuff.

4rsterling
Nov 5, 2011, 4:51pm Top

Further info: I'm guessing these entries have something to do with this:
http://www.librarything.com/topic/120446

It looks like someone is trying to put ID information on author pages so they can be easily or automatically linked from external sites like wikipedia. Anyway, there's been no general discussion of how to do this on LT that I can tell. Perhaps someone could propose that LT create a field for it, or come up with a better place for it, but I don't think it belongs in the disambiguation notice either way.

5lilithcat
Nov 5, 2011, 5:39pm Top

I don't think it belongs in the disambiguation notice, either. And I also don't understand why this cannot be edited, unlike the rest of the CK fields (and, usually, disambiguation notices).

6rsterling
Nov 5, 2011, 6:28pm Top

It can, it's just that it's on several different language versions of LT. You just need to switch language in the CK section of the page.

7gangleri
Dec 1, 2011, 6:23am Top

Dear friends, end of October I have been sent to a local hospital (some days to the emergency room and ten more days for normal observations). Diabetes can change the optical characteristics of the eyes, I was neither able to read newspapers nor did I use the internet for the last month. It is getting better now.

An eternal question: What are we doing now and what will we do tomorrow? Can we benefit from the work of other organizations and sites? How general, how universal our approach should be?
I agree that /author/duchampmarcel does not display authority control information at the right place. These numbers and the related links as
http://d-nb.info/gnd/11852772X
http://catalogo.bne.es/uhtbin/cgisirsi/0/x/0/05?searchdata1=^A924619 etc.
should be in an extra area at the upper right corner of the author page.

There are many details required for a proper implementation:
a) VIAF DNB, etc. numbers should be implemented as sets and not as single values because some numbers are redirecting today and others will redirect soon.
b) handling splitted authors
c) handling author combination
d) It should be possible to "erase" Common Knowledge (CK) content. Today "delete" will enter the empty string as a value which behaves different then NULL / NIL / the empty field in MySQL etc. An empty string in CK for a certain language will hide any other CK language version while an empty field in a language version does not. (reminder should be deleted if CK erasing is available.)

One goal of using authority control values is to get the maximal benefit in interlinking sites about the authors.

Regards Reinhardt

8brightcopy
Dec 1, 2011, 11:10am Top

All I have to say is I hope you stay healthy. Take care, Reinhardt.

9gangleri
Dec 2, 2011, 4:49am Top

> 8 Thanks!

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