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1A_musing
Edited: Jan 17, 2012, 9:12pm Top

OK, time for the next thread. Here is a modified schedule:

Jan. 1 - 7: to Chapter 21, "Going Aboard"
Jan 8 - 17: to Chapter 41, "Midnight - Forecastle"
Jan 18 - 24: to Chapter 65: "The Whale as a Dish"
Jan. 25 - 31: to Chapter 93: "The Castaway"
Feb 1 - Feb. 7: to Chapter 119: "The Candles"
Feb. 8 - Feb 15: The Blubbery Lay Sinks, Fini!

Here are the chapters for the coming week:

Chapter xli - MOBY DICK - More about Ahab than the Whale, there is some interplay here between the legend of the whale and Ahab's past run-in's with him. Remember the Osiris story during some of this.
Chapter xlii - THE WHITENESS OF THE WHALE - "What the white whale was to Ahab, has been hinted; what, at times, he was to me, as yet remains unsaid." This is a lengendary chapter of The Dick, to be savored. The footnote on the Albatross - ah! There is something to inspire DFW!
Chapter xliii - HARK! - A bit of foreboding, half-drama, half-novel.
Chapter xliv - THE CHART - We get deeply into Ahab and his plans here
Chapter xlv - THE AFFIDAVIT - It is time to talk about the book itself; Melville steps directly into the book here
Chapter xlvi - SURMISES - Here we begin getting down to the details of how to catch a whale
Chapter xlvii - THE MAT-MAKER - half of the chapter is on weaving, half of the chapter is on spotting whales, with a surprise at the end
Chapter xlviii - THE FIRST LOWERING - the boats head out for a whale, but grave dangers await!
Chapter xlix - THE HYENA - Ishmael asks if the whole universe is a practical joke.
Chapter l - AHAB'S BOAT AND CREW. FEDALLAH - thinking back on what has happened in the prior chapters.
Chapter li - THE SPIRIT-SPOUT - This chapter begins by marking the boat's progress and giving us its bearings, but, then, perhaps disorienting us
Chapter lii - THE ALBATROSS - We begin to understand the whaling community; this is an important theme throughout
Chapter liii - THE GAM - More of the whaling community; watch nationalities in these meetings; also, pay attention to the personalities of the chaptains and officers
Chapter liv - THE TOWN-HO'S STORY - We have some dramatic foreboding here, and an important story-within-a-story; this is among the long chapters of the book
Chapter lv - OF THE MONSTROUS PICTURES OF WHALES - We now progress to more of the whale build-up; a continuation of the Cetology series of chapters
Chapter lvi - OF THE LESS ERRONEOUS PICTURES OF WHALES, AND TH EPICTURES OF WHALING SCENES - more of the prior chapter's theme
Chapter lvii - OF WHALES IN PAINT; IN TEETH; IN WOOD; IN SHEET; IN STONE; IN MOUNTAINS; IN STARS - again, we are delving into whales looking at in all ways, from all angles here
Chapter lviii - BRIT - Both a Cetology chapter and a bit of a transition
Chapter lix - SQUID - One of the "Mystic" chapters, sheer poetry
Chapter lx - THE LINE - We refocus on seeking The Whale, and come to understand the dangerous teather between preditor and prey
Chapter lxi - STUBB KILLS A WHALE - an important dramatic moment, about half-way through and a whale is taken
Chapter lxii - THE DART - here we have details on the taking of the whale
Chapter lxiii - THE CROTCH - and the details on the taking of the whale gain some practical philosophy
Chapter lxiv - STUBB'S SUPPER - A grand comic chapter, to be contrasted with Father Mapple's Sermon; should we think of this, in any way, as a santified, sacrificial event?
Chapter lxv - THE WHALE AS A DISH - We are what we eat, writ large as a whale

This is a bit of a long week, over 100 pages of book, but several groups of chapters can be discussed together, and hopefully we know see many of the major themes at play, understand a fair bit about Melville's approach to the book, and can really luxuriate in some of the prose and the development of the story.

How are people doing on the book?

2A_musing
Jan 17, 2012, 8:57pm Top



A pretty picture from the web page of The New Bedford Whaling Museum, a site everyone should visit! http://www.whalingmuseum.org/learn/research-topics/overview-of-north-american-wh...

3LisaCurcio
Jan 17, 2012, 9:07pm Top

I have read up to LVI--Of the Less Eroneous Pictures of Whales, but realize I need to go back and reread a couple of the earlier chapters. I have in my book two of the "pictures" referred to in this chapter, and will try to figure out how to get them into the thread.

4A_musing
Jan 17, 2012, 9:09pm Top

You are ahead of the game! I get the sense some are ahead, some are catching up, few are following right along, but all are enjoying so far.

There's a way in which this is the toughest part, right in the middle of the book. So much done, but so much to go!

5ChocolateMuse
Jan 17, 2012, 9:13pm Top

Others are still on shore.

6A_musing
Jan 17, 2012, 9:15pm Top

Ah, but you've sailed in some of these waters before!

7ChocolateMuse
Jan 17, 2012, 9:26pm Top

Aye, cap'n, I'm an old hand these parts, sailed through the whiteness and hacked through the blubber. But I'm yet to make it to the bitter end.

8tomcatMurr
Jan 17, 2012, 9:36pm Top

Arrrrrrgh my hearties. I have found my glasses (god be praised) and am now ahead. Tashtego has just been reborn.

My mother is here for two weeks, so I"m not sure how much time I will have to contribute. I will try to check in regularly. Great discussion so far everyone, and I love that picture!

9RickHarsch
Jan 18, 2012, 6:31am Top

I am on Mab. Several other reading obligations are presenting themselves, and, anyway, going slow means a little treat at some time during the day or night. I'm heating up for the terrific Cetology.

10tomcatMurr
Jan 18, 2012, 7:51am Top

oh yes, the footnote on the Albatross is fantastic, and so is the very short chapter called the Albatross. Such beautiful prose and images...

11LisaCurcio
Jan 18, 2012, 11:32am Top

Sam, definitely enjoying. I find myself stopping sometimes to just ruminate on what a great writer Melville was. Just goes to show there is a time and place for everything.

I am ahead for now, but when I read your posts I find that I must have been skimming in some places so I have to go back and reread. I have a great appreciation for your posts and for those of all the others who know how to analyze and write.

12RidgewayGirl
Jan 18, 2012, 10:18pm Top

I'm a few chapters past the comparison between the right and sperm whales. The old whale has just been killed.

I ran into the same thing with another Victorian author; a chapter filled with tremendous excitement, followed by a few chapters of calm. The pattern is successful, at least for me, with the result that I stay up late reading, knowing something exciting could happen at any time.

Also, while I know this isn't to be discussed for a few days, the comparison chapters are really good, although I thought he was a little hard on the right whale.

13A_musing
Jan 19, 2012, 11:17am Top

Probably a little hard on Kant and Locke, too, though pretty funny.

14RidgewayGirl
Jan 19, 2012, 6:04pm Top

All these killing scenes. I'm afraid my 21st century bleeding environmentalist heart is hoping the whales win.

15anna_in_pdx
Jan 19, 2012, 7:07pm Top

14: Yeah, me too. I have already cast Ahab as the bad guy and the Whale as the good guy, I'm afraid.

16LisaCurcio
Jan 19, 2012, 8:38pm Top

I wonder if it is a "girl thing"? I join in the sentiment for the whales. As to Ahab, it is not hard to cast him as the bad guy. He is, after all, crazy.

17ChocolateMuse
Jan 19, 2012, 8:46pm Top

Me too! Any blokes share this?

18tomcatMurr
Edited: Jan 19, 2012, 8:50pm Top

I'm with you, and I think Melville is too. He sure makes you feel for those whales.

19A_musing
Jan 19, 2012, 9:59pm Top

I am for the whales, and, in particular, The Whale.

But I am surprised that most here seem to be.

20Mr.Durick
Jan 19, 2012, 10:09pm Top

I believe that it was in the chapter Stubb Kills a Whale that the first killing of a whale occurred in the book, and I was deeply saddened when I read that. The remaining killings were not much better for me; I didn't want to wait to the end for the whalers to get their comeuppance. The description in one of the articles in the back of my Norton Critical Edition about how they actual killed the whale pretty much offended me.

I wondered why Ishmael got off lightly. Do chroniclers get a special pass?

Robert

21ChocolateMuse
Edited: Jan 19, 2012, 10:16pm Top

>15 anna_in_pdx: Surely Ahab is meant to be the bad guy, Anna? I've just started that book A_Musing recommended, the Nathaniel Philbrick, and in speaking of the universiality of MD he says that Ahab has been likened to Hitler, and other similar historical figures - obsessed with destroying something irreplaceable at any cost (to put it over-simplistically).

22LisaCurcio
Jan 20, 2012, 7:59am Top

Historically, did people side with Ahab? Maybe it is that we (maybe particularly the types of people in this group) have a different attitude toward animals today?

23RidgewayGirl
Jan 20, 2012, 11:01am Top

Melville does include some of the preachiness present in Victorian novels (like Black Beauty, for example), in his exhortations to think of the dangers faced by the whalers when you light your lamp at night, but his focus is on the seamen, not the whales.

24A_musing
Edited: Jan 20, 2012, 11:26am Top

We've got a couple dramas in here - Ahab v. crew, Ahab v. whale; to the extent he sympathizes with any of his characters, I do think it is the crew, as RG says.

I think a lot of people see Ahab in a faustian light, as a flawed tragic hero, while seeing the whale as embodying a likely intelligent evil force.

I don't, I see the whale as embodying a natural force that is at once in separable from the divine and relatively unconcerned with people. But, throughout, very inscrutable. And, hey, we all like nature and plnats and things, right?

And how tragic is Ahab? Doesn't he bring all this on himself?

25anna_in_pdx
Jan 20, 2012, 11:38am Top

24: "I think a lot of people see Ahab in a faustian light, as a flawed tragic hero,"

Yes, that was what I was reacting to. I have not read this book before, but I have certainly heard of it, and that was the impression I had of the Ahab character.

26LisaCurcio
Edited: Jan 21, 2012, 8:18am Top

I don't have the sense that Melville thought the whale was evil. Certainly he does not sympathize or empathize with it. The 19th century perspective most probably would have been that the whale is something that is useful to man when it is caught and its parts are rendered.

Nor can I see Ahab as a tragic hero--his demoniac/ monomaniac behavior takes him far from such a role IMHO.

27PeterKein
Jan 20, 2012, 12:24pm Top

Some things I've been collecting for a local reading of MB --



Tristin Lowe's Mocha Dick

Re: Ahab and Faust
Nancy Sanders's Faust and Ahab: two characters between the demonic and divine

and an anecdote, there seems to be at least one person named Melville Faust living (or having lived) in Louisiana.

28tomcatMurr
Jan 20, 2012, 9:09pm Top

I agree with you lisa, I don't think the whale is a force of evil at all. The text creates sympathy for the whale in the reader (wait till you get to the massacre chapter). The only evil whale is Moby Dick, and there the malevolence is as much a projection of Ahab's obsessions as anything else, and as much as an obsession of Ishmael's regarding the colour white.

29tomcatMurr
Jan 21, 2012, 10:17pm Top

I love the chapters 'the spirit spout' and 'the albatross'. Some beautiful images, reminds me of the pillar of smoke and fire that guided that chappie -what was his name?- in the Holly Bibble.

In the 'Town Ho' chapter we get a clue to an important structuring device on which the whole architecture of the book is based. Ishmael says to his interlocutors:

I will tell you what our Canallers are, for such information may throw sidelight upon my story.

the novel is built on two different styles and perspective: 1) the fictional story, and 2) the non-fictional, expository, informational chapters, which Mellville includes in the hope that they will 'throw sidelight upon the story'.

30A_musing
Edited: Jan 22, 2012, 8:50pm Top

I have a long-overdue post on "The Whiteness of the Whale", a post that has been much shortened and simplified as I've reworked it. I am going to try to get back to regular postings again and catch up to where we are, I'm afraid this last week got away from me. http://thetreadleoftheloom.blogspot.com/2012/01/whiteness.html

I love the Spirit-Spout. Feels very haunting.

You know, others have argued a sort of "two-book" appraoch to Moby, but I tend to see more than that in the structuring - every time I try to separate non-fictional and fictional, parts of them merge and most of them seem in-between. It all gets me back to the weaving metaphors, with warp strands going one way and woof or weft strands going the other, building a pattern between them. Yet the strands are of a similar type, they're yarns, even if they may differ in size or color or fabric.

31tomcatMurr
Jan 22, 2012, 9:12pm Top

oh yes, the weaving metaphor: together the fiction and the non fiction make up the fabric of knowledge.

32dchaikin
Jan 22, 2012, 10:49pm Top

Just catching this thread, haven't read Sam's post yet. I'm head for the moment, well three more days. I'm at chapter 82 (The Honor and Glory of Whaling.)

33baswood
Jan 23, 2012, 5:39am Top

Thanks for the post on The Whiteness of the whale Sam. That was one of the chapters I found intriguing if a little dense at times.

Ishmael/Melville gives us a big clue at the start of that chapter.

But how can I hope to explain myself here; and yet, in some dim, random way, explain myself I must, else all these chapters might be naught.

I have at last caught up with the group, I have just finished "The Town-Ho's story" It was nice to get back to reading a novel again be it only a novel within a novel, but I assume totally relevant.

34dchaikin
Jan 23, 2012, 12:56pm Top

Sam - great post.

I found myself happily lost in the whiteness chapter, but I also found it difficult to hold on to. It's mostly slipped away already.

35A_musing
Jan 23, 2012, 1:10pm Top

I think the whole thing is about ambiguity and uncertainty; whiteness seems to slip away on us.

Town-Ho reminds me of many of Melville's short stories.

I think Murr really has the feel for Alter without having read it, and for the diction type comments. I've reread his comparison a couple times, and it's really interesting.

36RidgewayGirl
Jan 23, 2012, 5:39pm Top

Thanks for the whiteness chapter stuff. That chapter was the biggest slog for me. The cetology stuff was fun, with the folios and quartos, and such and the later chapters comparing whale types was fascinating, but the evil color chapter was an effort. Worse than the mistreatment of Pip, the special coiling of rope chapter and the massacre chapter combined.

Will you be explaining the importance of the rope chapter?

37A_musing
Edited: Jan 23, 2012, 5:55pm Top

I hadn't been working on a rope chapter, but by the massacre chapter, do you mean the chapter with the sharks? Or the one where they are in the midst of the huge school, killing what they can?

I'll have to take a look at ropes. I'll at least give you some thoughts here.

38RidgewayGirl
Jan 23, 2012, 6:38pm Top

The huge school. And then Melville goes on and on about how there will always be plenty of whales. Learn from the buffalo, dude!

39A_musing
Jan 23, 2012, 6:46pm Top

The part there where they are trapped within the pod I liked; a sort of Jonah story. I will have a bunch to say on that chapter, if I can turn the notes into something sensible.

40anna_in_pdx
Jan 23, 2012, 6:53pm Top

I wonder what Melville would think if he could know about the decimation of whales and how most of them are protected in most countries now.

41baswood
Jan 24, 2012, 7:28am Top



This is the painting (aquatint) by Garneray (in my text Melville has misspelled the name as Garnery) that Melville is so taken with in the chapter "Off the less erroneous pictures of whales, and the true picture of whaling scenes.

It seems at times that Melville is intent in including the whole history of the whale in his Moby Dick.

42A_musing
Jan 24, 2012, 8:27am Top

I get a lot of dramatic tension from looking at the whale from all angles - it is part of what builds up an animal as a character worthy of an epic struggle for me. Think of Moby in comparison to St. George's Dragon, for example. I thinfk he learns something from Milton and Spenser how to create non-human characters with depth, but then runs with it. I don't think I got all that my first read, many moons ago, but I do very much this re-read.

Interesting painting; very directly engaged struggle with the whale pretty far out of the water.

43dchaikin
Jan 24, 2012, 10:12am Top

Sam - I just read the King George chapter, and was thinking of Spenser.

#40 - I've somehow always been comparing this book to oil exploration. First because this whaling was a search for oil. Second because the same morality applies - destroy to get the oil, and societal justification - that the need demands the means. The third because the mentality is comparable for the crews on the boats/rigs. I think that if Melville were alive today, he would be writing about Macondo. The vast ocean would be replaced by the vastness of time.

(#36 - RG - I actually loved all those chapters...still thinking about the rope in whale boats flying away around the crews.)

44A_musing
Jan 24, 2012, 10:58am Top

Moby Dick obsessions get very strange sometimes: http://www.ebay.com/itm/260940598024

45LisaCurcio
Jan 24, 2012, 11:09am Top

Barry, I have that one and "Hunting the Right Whale" in my book. If I could figure out how to get the photo off of my phone onto my computer, I would post it. Or, if I could remember to take a photo with my digital camera at home I would post it.

46PeterKein
Jan 24, 2012, 11:20am Top

45> email it to yourself? or if no email access on your phone, text it to your email address?

47anna_in_pdx
Jan 24, 2012, 11:29am Top

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/classic_poems/2012/01/herman_melville_s_the_m...

My partner, an avid reader of Slate, passed this on to me knowing I am reading this book. Enjoy.

48urania1
Jan 24, 2012, 12:24pm Top

There was a man from Nantucket
Who only made love in a bucket.
One day he set sail
In search of a whale
But the whale looked at him and said suck it.

49Macumbeira
Jan 24, 2012, 1:48pm Top

Wohooooo

50RickHarsch
Jan 24, 2012, 3:20pm Top

he said fuck it not suck it

51RickHarsch
Jan 24, 2012, 3:20pm Top

i was there

52urania1
Jan 24, 2012, 4:25pm Top

Rick,

I was there too. The whale said "suck it." "It" was big.

53RickHarsch
Jan 25, 2012, 10:31am Top

Your unseemly behavior, Ur, will not discourage me from filling and sending the box, eventually.

54baswood
Edited: Jan 26, 2012, 9:02am Top

I read today the chapters 72-75, where Melville describes the cutting up of the whales and then talks about the whale heads. Just after the Jeroboam's story (chapter 71) everything seems to get more sinister and the humour when Flask and Stubbs are talking about Fedallah has become gallows humour. In the monkey-rope chapter it is revealed that only on the Pequod are two shipmates tied together in such a way that if one slips and drowns then the other is expected to share his fate.

I like the image of the two whale heads secured on either side of the boat likened to philosophical talk:

by the counterpoise of both heads, she regained her even keel; though sorely strained, you may well believe, So, when on one side you hoist in Locke's head, you go over the way; but now, on the other side, hoist in Kant's and you come back again; but in very poor plight, Thus, some minds for ever keep trimming boat. Oh, ye foolish! throw all these thunder-heads overboard, and then you will float light and right.

55RidgewayGirl
Jan 26, 2012, 7:43am Top

I have finished the book. When should I expect the arrival of my free harpoon?

56LisaCurcio
Jan 26, 2012, 11:58am Top

>54 baswood: I particularly like the admonition to throw them (philosophers) all overboard. Sorry U.

57dchaikin
Jan 26, 2012, 3:37pm Top

Read "The Castaway" yesterday...wow, just wow. That is a headful to think about. And, now I understand Sam's blog title.

58Mr.Durick
Jan 26, 2012, 4:53pm Top

When I read that I was reminded of a movie I had wanted to see but missed. It had to do with recreational divers or swimmers left behind by their boat. The implication was that they were never found and that the movie was a stark but compelling depiction of the couple's end. I suspect that abandonment at sea would be mighty discouraging.

Robert

59dchaikin
Jan 26, 2012, 5:04pm Top

I keep picturing poor pip with only his head above water and miles of open water in every direction...yes, that would be discouraging.

60A_musing
Jan 26, 2012, 5:22pm Top

Ah, I've been tied up at work, I need to open a new thread and get some of my post finished for the blog! RG - Congratulations! Would you like your harpoon to be tempered with the blood of pagans, or just a normal tempering?

Bas, I absolutely adore that image, and keep coming back to it; yes, we might sail straighter and faster without Locke and Kant and their "big heads" weighing us down, yet we can sail straight and slow with both of them. Of course, it stinks a bit....

Isn't the Castaway the greaest chapter? In December, I began a blog post on Pip, when I was writing one on each of the major characters, and I just can't finish it; there is too much there. He begins with his tambourine entertaining the sailors, he sees God, he goes mad, he becomes to Ahab as Queequeg is to Ishmael in some ways.... I keep feeling like one of the deepest "keys" to Moby Dick that I can't fully fathom is Pip, and then I think that, perhaps is what the book is all about, the unfathomable....

61RickHarsch
Jan 27, 2012, 6:22am Top

"I suspect that abandonment at sea would be mighty discouraging."

Mr. Durick, such pessimism.

62A_musing
Jan 27, 2012, 11:39am Top

An observation: for a book seeped in religion with lots of Biblical references and discussions, there's not much Christ in this whole book. A lot of old testament allusions, not a small number of Hindoo and Islam references, a whole bunch of Egyptian and classical mythology references, but just not very much new testament-y.

I think of 20th Century American writers, and religious references are overwhelmingly gospel/New Testament - Faulkner, Flannery O'Connor, Nathaniel West. All crucifixtion/redemption allusions. There are plenty of opportunities for such references in Moby Dick, but Melville prefers Jonah and Job.

63LisaCurcio
Jan 27, 2012, 1:36pm Top

Just read "The Honor and Glory of Whaling" which I found LOL funny. Of course this chapter is a microcosm of what you said in #62, Sam. Old Testament, classical mythology, Hindu, but no New Testament.

64anna_in_pdx
Edited: Jan 27, 2012, 2:02pm Top

63: I was laughing at it too. I felt he was "protesting too much" in a way. But also being kind of tongue in cheek.

65baswood
Jan 27, 2012, 6:14pm Top

I am amazed!! really amazed that Mob-Dick only made number 64 in the 100 best gay and lesbian novels. The compilers have obviously not read chapter 78 "Cistern and Buckets" A homosexual farrago and/or an erotic masterpiece. Sounds like Melville was having great fun here right from the first sentence when he describes Tashtego's erect posture.

This chapter cracked me up, great stuff.

66baswood
Jan 28, 2012, 6:12pm Top

Chapter 81 "The Pequod Meets the Virgin"

This turns out to be a chapter that celebrates the triumph of young America over devious and tired old Europe. However once the prize is won it sinks to the bottom of the ocean. Once again there is so much to read into this story within a story. The whale is no monster here, it is a pitiful thing.

67LisaCurcio
Jan 29, 2012, 1:22pm Top

So far, Melville has not at all depicted the whale as a monster. Really, all of them are just minding their own business when these ships descend upon them to try to kill them.

Of course, I don't know if this will change when we actually encounter Moby Dick. My opinion at this point is that Melville thought whales were amazing animals.

68baswood
Jan 30, 2012, 5:48pm Top

Humour in the whale, Moby-Dick a comic masterpiece.

Today I read "The Pequod meets the Rose-bud" In this chapter Melville has great delight in taking the piss out of the French. He had done a similar thing to the German's in "The Pequod meets the Virgin"

Thinking back over my reading so far and I am finding much of this book to be hilarious. Right from the start we had the comedy of Ishmael sharing a bed with the cannibal and then breaking down the door when queequeg was meditating. There are so many funny incidents along the way. The captains table for instance and Tashtego falling inside the sperm whale head.

Every time Stubbs appears I am getting ready to laugh, he has got to be one of the funniest characters in 19th century literature.

69RickHarsch
Jan 30, 2012, 5:55pm Top

It reminds of me of my surprise when I finally read Hamlet and Brothers Karamazov. Nobody told me they were comedies, but now I know that great book must be (exceptions be damned).

70A_musing
Edited: Jan 30, 2012, 9:57pm Top

We need a blog post on a comic tale including Stubb. It's been a while, but here we go: http://thetreadleoftheloom.blogspot.com/2012/01/filling-bottomless-bellies.html

Barry, Stubb is indeed hilarious. I think I too often just meld he and Starbucks and Flask together when I'm just remembering the book.

71A_musing
Jan 30, 2012, 9:52pm Top

For discussion of the next round of chapters: http://www.librarything.com/topic/131929

I will be posting blogs in somewhat disjointed order from here on, as I get them done.

Lisa, I think in some of the chapters like The Grand Armada we really see how much Melville actually likes whales; I think he is, in many ways, much fonder of nature than of people.

72dchaikin
Jan 31, 2012, 1:23pm Top

Good stuff from the Loom, Sam.

73LolaWalser
Mar 25, 2012, 8:47am Top

I keep wondering what Melville would have made of the whales' sonar. I'm dying to tell him.

"Hermann, this'll blow your mind..."

74Macumbeira
Mar 25, 2012, 10:11am Top

you mean Dory's imitation of the whale song in "Finding Nemo" ? Melville would have thought the XXth century barking mad !

75LolaWalser
Mar 25, 2012, 10:24am Top

Where would whales talking to each other fit in Moby Dick, and how?

By the way, that footnote about whale milk going well with strawberries--welcome to hell-fire, H. M.!

Is it possible to milk whales, I wonder? I'm afraid they'd have to be unconscious...

76Macumbeira
Mar 25, 2012, 10:39am Top

Well I know some people who give goats handjobs, This expertise might help

77LolaWalser
Mar 25, 2012, 11:04am Top

Goat people are great kidders.

I'm not sure that's the same as being great with kids. Who wants to be great with kids anyway--leave it to the whales.

I detect plenty of warp in me, but where's the waft?

78LolaWalser
Mar 25, 2012, 11:05am Top

I'm unravelling, I'm unravelling...!

79tomcatMurr
Mar 25, 2012, 11:42am Top

THere she blows!

80LolaWalser
Mar 25, 2012, 4:57pm Top

Murr, you werp.

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