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Feb 5, 2012, 5:46am Top

The David Gemmell Legend awards are open for voting on best 2011 fantasy novel, fantasy debut, and cover art. No registration required, just click to vote!


Anyone read any of the nominees for best debut?

The Unremembered by Peter Orullian
Among Thieves by Douglas Hulick
The Heir of Night by Helen Lowe
The Winds of Khalakovo by Bradley P Beaulieu
Songs of the Earth by Elspeth Cooper
The Emperor's Knife by Mazarkis Williams
Prince of Thorns by Mark Lawrence
The Whitefire Crossing by Courtney Schafer
Fire and Thorns by Rae Carson

Feb 5, 2012, 7:36am Top

I read Among Thieves and think it worthy of a nomination at least. Several of the others are in my TBR mountain somewhere

Feb 5, 2012, 4:24pm Top

I haven't read (or even heard) of any of them. How embarrassing!

Feb 9, 2012, 1:50am Top

shame on you, Chorecrat! Shame I say! :)

Feb 9, 2012, 5:26am Top

haven't read any, never heard of any, and no idea who David Gemmell Legend is either. But none of that will stop me from voting!

Feb 9, 2012, 9:43am Top

I've only heard of 3 of them- but I am reading Among Thieves at the moment.

Feb 9, 2012, 11:44am Top

#5 - Ah, democracy!

Feb 9, 2012, 12:31pm Top

MrAndrew - you may well be better served by seeking out some David Gemmell books then, rather than trying any of the nominees. Gemmell died 6 years ago aged 57 and left a legacy of 30(ish) excellent fantasy books - a very interesting man too http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Gemmell The awards are in his memory.

Feb 9, 2012, 6:13pm Top

yes, but what about this David Gemmell Legend guy?

btw i never said that i was going to try reading any of the nominee's books. I just said that i was going to vote. There's no test, is there?

Edited: Feb 9, 2012, 6:39pm Top

>9 MrAndrew: Why would you feel the need to vote in this award when you're apparently so ignorant of the whole fantasy genre, nevermind this year's debuts ?
Just to be contrary ?

I mean, David Gemmell, even if you don't think he was that good (wasn't too thrilled with what I read from him personnally), you must have been living under a rock for the name not to ring a bell.

Feb 9, 2012, 7:03pm Top

I think MrA's trying to make a point about the validity of online voting competitions.

Feb 9, 2012, 8:16pm Top

...yes... that's it. I'm making a hilarious, erudite and cuttingly perceptive statement on the inherent flaws in the democratic system. Or possibly just being a tool. It's best to just ignore me, please carry on.

btw, i have heard of Fantasy. It's a sex thing, right?

Edited: Feb 9, 2012, 8:49pm Top

What's the other option ? Make everyone register somewhere and pay to receive some voter's package which content they might read, and/or pay even more to attend some in-person event for voting rights ?
There's a least one like this, but it's not foolproof, in fact you could probably find people willing to rant at some length on how biased it is, with strong statistical hints that just where the voting took place probably did influence previous winner choices.

While online "anonymity" may seem to make for easier ballot stuffing and encouraging drive-by votes by people not overly interested in the books, most people have better use of their online time than fill polls they don't care about, and one might hope some measures have been taken to spot instances of likely manipulation.

Feb 10, 2012, 2:38am Top

Jarandel - all true. I have a lot of time for the David Gemmell awards and none for the Hugos, but each to their own :)

And as someone with a PhD in what might be unkindly called statistics I can tell you that random voting generally constitutes white noise and the effects are usually negligible in a poll like this.

Feb 10, 2012, 5:52pm Top

14 - Generally true. That said, I know some online polls do get votebombed by a determined set of people. It's rather unlikely to happen in this case, but in polls where politics, religion and social issues come up (which issues we won't discuss here - board policy) it's not uncommon to get a bunch of people who don't otherwise care to come by and vote multiple times (through proxies, etc. if necessary) to effect a desired result.

Mar 28, 2012, 3:28pm Top

voting closes 31st March

Edited: Mar 29, 2012, 9:38am Top

#16 - And how's your book doing votes wise so far, Mark? Or can't you tell until it's all over?

#10 - Well, then. I guess I must be living under a great big rock. No bells were rung here. ;o)

Mar 29, 2012, 10:13am Top

Clam, if it makes you feel any better, that rock crosses several continental plates. There was a distinct absence of bells ringing here too ;-)

Mar 29, 2012, 10:39am Top

#18 - It does, Hugh. Thank you. :o)

Mar 29, 2012, 2:34pm Top

Yep, the rock goes this direction too. :) clammy, I can vividly seeing you open your clamshell and peeking out to say that. ;)

Mar 29, 2012, 5:13pm Top

I know of Gemmell - I've never read any though. He writes epic fantasy along the line of Eddings.

Edited: Mar 29, 2012, 5:25pm Top

#20 - Hee hee!

I do eat a pasta shape called Gemelli, though. Does that count?

Mar 29, 2012, 5:40pm Top

#21, respectfully (having read both authors) I wouldn't tend to clump Gemmell and Eddings too closely together.

My personal take: Gemmell's work is a lot harder edged...

With regard to the discussion: while Gemmell's work may be fairly widely known in the fantasy field, I'd not presume 'everyone' here has heard of him - the reading tastes of the folks in the Green Dragon are way too eclectic in my observation, and not at all 'under a rock'.

#22 - Clam! LOL!!!

Mar 29, 2012, 9:17pm Top

23 - I wasn't suggesting similar quality! As I said, I haven't read them, so I'm not able to judge that (especially given the subjective nature of judging quality). It was more the similar world-building that I was alluding to.

Mar 29, 2012, 10:52pm Top

Just for some context about David Gemmell - here's his obituary http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/2006/aug/02/guardianobituaries.booksobituaries

He died in 2006.

Edited: Mar 30, 2012, 11:05am Top

#24 - with appreciation for your response - actually, I said nothing about the quality of either author.

Only a gentle note to potential readers as a person who has read numerous works from the body of work of both the mentioned authors: the impression I wished to leave - in my opinion, Gemmell and Eddings are not that similar in story tone and content.

Gemmell's work is harder edged.

Mar 30, 2012, 12:03pm Top

I was at GenCon with Bradley Beaulieu last year. Very nice guy. He'll (and I) will be at Origins at the end of May this year, too.

I have a signed copy of 'Winds' from him, but I am ashamed to say I have not yet read it.

Apr 17, 2012, 2:26am Top

The shortlists are up and voting continues until the end of May. No registration required.

Legend (best novel):

Morningstar (best debut novel):

Ravenheart (best cover):

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