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cameling in the oasis of books - frothy jacuzzi 6

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One of Roni's camels

January Reads
The Night Circus - Erin Morgenstern
1Q84 - Haruki Murakami
The Wanderer : The Last American Slave Ship and the Conspiracy that Set Its Sails - Eric Calonius
Lady Susan - Jane Austen
The Glass Devil - Helene Tursten
The Hare with Amber Eyes - Edmund de Waal
Charlotte Figg Takes Over Paradise- Joyce Magnin
Pistols for Two Breakfast For One - Matthew J. Dick
Man in the Empty Boat - Mark Salzman
Blackberries, Blackberries - Crystal Wilkinson

February Reads
A Contract with God and Other Tenement Stories - Will Eisner
Emperor of All Maladies : A Biography of Cancer - Siddhartha Mukherjee
Forgotten Country - Catherine Chung
Zenzele - J. Nozipo Maraire
Nelson - Rob Davis
Unseen - Mari Jungstedt
The Waitress Was New - Dominique Fabre
Squirrel Seeks Chipmunk - David Sedaris
The Potter's Field - Andrea Camilleri
Audition Ryu Murakami
Lady Almina and the Real Downton Abbey - The Countess of Carnarvon
Devil's Food Cake Murder - Joanne Fluke
Operation Mincemeat : How a Dead Man and a Bizarre Plan Fooled the Nazis and Assured and Allied Victory - Ben Macintyre
The Whipping Club - Deborah Henry
I am the Messenger - Markus Zusak

March Reads
Gifts and Consequences - Daniel Coleman
Shadows of the Soul - Angelique Armae
Broken - Karin Fossum
1222 - Anne Holt
The Buddha in the Attic - Julie Otsuka
A Small Hotel - Robert Olen Butler
New York to Dallas - J.D. Robb
Stradivari's Genius - Toby Faber
Man Walks into a Room - Nicole Krauss
The Coroner's Lunch - Colin Cotterill
Man in Beijing - Henning Mankell
Absolution - Patrick Flanery
The Finkler Question - Howard Jacobson

April Reads
An Uncertain Place - Fred Vargas
Hark! A Vagrant - Kate Beaton
Seven Moments in Time - Todd Tystad
Mumbai Noir -Altaf Tyrewala
Sleeping with Paris - Juliette Sobanet
Kissing Adrien - Siri. L. Mitchell
Wild Mustang Man - Carol Grace
The Guinea Pigs - Ludvik Vaculik
The Flower Mat - Shugoro Yamamoto
The Rabbi's Cat - Joann Sfar
Below Stairs - Margaret Powell
A Bitter Veil - Libby Fischer Hellmann
An Attempt at Exhausting a Place in Paris - Georges Perec
Foul Matter - Martha Grimes

May Reads
Thirty Three Teeth - Colin Cotterill
Pomfret Towers - Angela Thirkell
The Redeemer - Jo Nesbo
Part of the Furniture - Mary Wesley
A Lonely Death - Charles Todd
A Trick of the Light - Louise Penny
Husband Hunting 101 - Rita Herron
The Hangman (Good Reads) - Louise Penny
Spying in High Heels - Gemma Halliday
The Last Good Man - Kathleen Eagle
The Cat Manual - Michael Ray Taylor
Divine Intervention - Cheryl Kaye Tardif
I Have a Secret - Cheryl Bradshaw
When Pigs Fly - Bob Sanchez
Sleeping Love - Sara Curran-Ross
Match Day - Brian Eule

June Reads
Long Island Noir - Kaylie Jones
Picket Line - Breena Wiederhoeft

May 5, 2012, 2:35pm Top

Frothy jacuzzi? Congrats on the latest thread. x

May 5, 2012, 2:40pm Top

Woah.. you're quick, Paul! Why are you up at 2.40am?!!

May 5, 2012, 2:42pm Top

Too much sleep yesterday - plus Giro D'Italia starting and the FA Cup final.

May 5, 2012, 2:57pm Top

Woo hoo! New thread and new camel.

May 5, 2012, 3:03pm Top

What a beautiful camel! Congratulations on a new thread.

May 5, 2012, 3:06pm Top

Responding to some of the posts in my last thread before I started this one:

Paul : The weekend with the hubster has started out very promisingly ....

- with me promising to make blueberry pancakes and then delivering baked beans on toast with bacon when he came downstairs. *I didn't realize we'd run out of eggs*
- with him suggesting an impromptu drive to Portland, Maine for the weekend and then flipping on a movie on tv, and then picking up a book to read when the movie was over. *He later said, he thought I looked so relax on the couch with MY book he didn't want to bother me ........... and this after I'd spent a half hour pumping the tyres on our bicycles to take with us*
- with me promising a grilled eggplant, mozzarella and pesto sandwich for lunch and then dishing up a bowl of oxtail stew. *No sense wasting good stew I made in the slow cooker last night, and because I forgot that I ate the last of the mozzarella last night*

We've decided since it's already mid afternoon, we're just going to scrape the Portland plan, go for a bike ride later anyway, and then take in a movie tonight. *maybe even make it to the newly released Best Exotic Marigold Hotel that I wanted to watch last night*

Richard : Advise and Consent took you a year to finish it the first time? How long did it take you to finish the 2nd time around? I fell asleep during the movie, so I don't know how it ended ... should I read the book? Or just Netflix the movie?

Bonnie : Watch this space ... I may get to watch it tonight. :-)

Roni : look who's the pic of my new thread?

Kath : Only Edd's going to Singapore this time around. I'm not going to because I'll be in Australia while he's there, and there's now an outside chance I may need to break my stay in Australia with a day trip to Bangalore for a meeting (I'm hoping the India Consulate in Melbourne will tell me they cannot expedite an India visa in a day). I don't think I'll be visiting Singapore until August at the very earliest. I did call my mom yesterday morning though, and she was pleased to hear from me, dishing the goss about family and friends until I had to go for a meeting.

Marky-Mark : Have you read any non-Dr Siri books by Cotterill and are they as good?

Darryl : I read Rivera's interview last night where he staunchly vouches to return to the game if he heals from this injury. What a beastly stroke of bad luck to have torn his ACL by tripping over a clump of dirt catching flyballs during warm up practice. I really hope he does manage to recover and come out, so he's not having to retire because of this injury.

Chelle : I'm hoping for good weather for my walk tomorrow. I'm actually going to try and run a portion of it, maybe 4 miles and then fast walk the rest. What I love about doing the Walk For Hunger is at the end of the finishing line, the Ben & Jerry's team hand out free ice cream bars to all the walkers. haha... ok, I'm cheap! We do have a halfway stop at the 10 mile point and you can stop there if you want for a snack and a rub down. They set up a little first aid tents for those who've developed blisters (always wear 2 layers of socks to avoid blisters if you don't have tough feet!) and concession stands selling hotdogs, burgers, pizza slices, drinks and ice cream. And the sponsors will hand out a bag of juice, potato chips and a sandwich. I usually just eat and drink while I continue walking so I can get the whole thing done as soon as possible.

Donna The hubster finds walking long distances boring and also hard on his feet. He would much rather run the whole thing, but he's recently pulled a muscle in his groin so he'll drop me off at the start, go for a swim and read the papers while waiting for me at the finish. Then we'll go for a late lunch. Alas, he's hopeless as a masseuse ..I'd much rather be chewed on by a hungry pitbull than get a massage from him.

Joe : I expect to see some pics of the MeetUp. I hope to make it to one of the next ones you guys hold.

Dejah : Ooh... can't wait to see what you think of Thirty Three Teeth. Will be hovering over your thread in anticipation for the review.

May 5, 2012, 3:08pm Top

#4 : At least you have Sunday to sleep in. Hey, are you going to take Monday off as well since your motherland has that bank holiday for Early May Day as my British colleagues have gleefully informed me when I was attempting to schedule a conference call with a couple of them!

#5 : Recognize the camel, Roni? ;-)

#6 : Thanks, Dejah... at least I got the numbering right this time.

May 5, 2012, 3:10pm Top

Every once in a while, I'll pick up a book at the library that just looks interesting without having read any previous works by the author, or even the jacket cover for a synopsis of the book. This is what happened with this book I read this morning.

Pomfret Towers by Angela Thirkell

Who would have thought that a weekend house party at a pre-WorldWar II English mansion would be the catalyst sparking off family drama in a rollicking good way. A timid woman finds herself starting to come out of her shell when she meets a sulky spoiled man proclaiming to be an artist. A loud and overbearing author of romance novels stalks after her publisher and her daughter in turn, believing herself entitled to a higher advance to her next book and blatantly trying to orchestrate a relationship between her daughter and the heir to the mansion respectively. Throw into the mix, an ever patient and efficient secretary to Lady Pomfret, an archdeacon, a brother and sister of more humble origins, an illustrious author of historical research, Lord Pomfret, a cantankerous aristocrat, and staff who see and hear more than they are noticed, and you have a wonderful cast of characters to make up this delightful jolly gem of a read.

Perfect for a gloomy rainy afternoon.
3.7 stars

and now I can get back to murder & mayhem .. mwahahahahaaaa....

May 5, 2012, 3:19pm Top

Spending some time downloading free books on my Kindle for my upcoming trip. 3 weeks is a long time to be away from home and my beloved TBR Tower.

Has anyone read or is intending to the the suddenly much talked about Fifty Shades series by E.L. James? I've seen them in passing at bookstores in the airports, and seen some chatter about it on some threads, but I don't know much about them and if they're heavy into BDSM or if it's just a pure romance or both.

May 5, 2012, 3:33pm Top

Frothy jacuzzi --- got my attention. :-)

May 5, 2012, 3:48pm Top

No holiday here on Monday Caro - ours was on the real May day.

May 5, 2012, 5:25pm Top

Thumbs upped the Pomfret Towers review, Caro! I'd say you're ripe to read Wild Strawberries now. Or Summer Half.

Advise and Consent the movie is okay. The book is a touch plodding. Unless you're just hooked so deep you can't get free, I'd say Netflix it while in Aus if there are no reruns of Supernova to watch.

May 5, 2012, 8:57pm Top

Caro- Thanks to the Meet-Up, my wife has a copy of Fifty Shades. She is very excited, which I hope trickles down. Wink Wink. I have no intention of reading it.
I have not read any of Cotterill's non-Dr. Siri books. RD has and reports they suck!

May 5, 2012, 9:13pm Top

Caro - The buzz about Fifty Shades (what I've heard of it) is kind of interesting. I know one LTer Ellen / kittenfish read it and her reaction was something along the lines of yuck.

My librarian refuses to order it for her branch, because she's offended that someone is essentially making money off of fanfic - it was originally written as a take off on Twilight. Now that it's legit, names and characters have been changed, etc. Other branches in my system have ordered it, though, so apparently no one is terribly worried about the sexual content.

I've got it on hold, because I want to find out what the fuss is about, but I don't want to pay for it. I mean honestly, how pornographic can it be? Can it possibly be more explicit than any of the later Laurell K. Hamilton books? At any rate, I intend to start reading it at some point, but I don't promise to finish it.

May 5, 2012, 9:27pm Top

Sorry... as I mentioned in my own thread, I have lost my mind.. but anayway.. someone will be
in Singapore and I wish for your sake and your mom/s it were you. Have fun where you end up and kee in touch..

I am sleeping weirdly and having not good dreams... not that I can use it for an excuse...
I am sleepy now, but want to go and see the moon when she rises... so I am hanging out trying to convince the furkids that all will be well if we wait.

oh, and eating a churro

May 5, 2012, 9:32pm Top

You'll want to run over to Mark's thread, Caro - pics are posted. You'll see we even did a shot of tequila in your honor!

May 5, 2012, 11:36pm Top

#11 : Frothy jacuzzis are my one weakness, Ellen .... ok, maybe not just the one, but definitely one OF my weaknesses. There's just something so inviting about water looking like it's boiling that makes me want to step in and soak .........I wonder if I was a lobster in a previous life slated for the cooking pot?

#12 : Paul - That's just such a bizarre reason for a holiday, isn't it, though? Early May Monday? Why not also Early March Monday or Early September Monday? Because it doesn't replace Labour Day which is ... May 1?

#13 :I'm ahead of you on that one, Richard .... I've already got Wild Strawberries in my obese wish list, and looking forward to it, if it's anything like Pomfret Towers.

Thanks for the heads up on Advise and Consent the book....I'll Netflix it for when I come home. Netflix doesn't allow streaming outside the US. :-(

#14 : Marky-Mark : Shame about the non-Dr Siri Cotterill books ...but I might try one at some point just to see how much of a difference in style it is.

haha... let me know if Fifty Shades works wonders for you...er.. your wife...er... you...er... ok, both of you.

May 5, 2012, 11:42pm Top

#15 : Interesting Dejah. I didn't know that Fifty Shades is a take off on Twilight. Odd that I haven't heard that it was werewolf/vampire as well. I've got it on hold as well because I'm interested just to see what all the fuss is about, but I don't want to buy it either. If it's anything like Laurell K. Hamilton's Anita Blake or Meredith Gentry series, I know I'll be bored after a while.

#16 : Churro? Did you make the churros, Kath? Dipped in honey or chocolate or dulce de leche?

Haha...speaking of Fifty Shades ... there's a skit on SNL tonight about Mother's Day and how Fifty Shades would be a perfect present for mom.

#17 : First thread I checked when I got home tonight, Joe. Love the pics! You guys look like party animals!!!

May 5, 2012, 11:50pm Top

We did head out to watch 'The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel' this evening and Bonnie ... it was a blast! For one thing, they couldn't possibly go wrong with the cast they had, but even then, the dialogue was perfectly snappy and introspective where appropriate. I loved it! Maggie Smith was just stellar in this movie and stole the show.

Gotta head up to bed soon ... my Walk for Hunger starts at 7am tomorrow. Wish me luck! ;-)

May 6, 2012, 12:24am Top

Of course I recognized the fellow in the picture at the top, Caro! My memory isn't that bad--yet. ;-)

Edited: May 6, 2012, 4:49am Top

That is one roaring camel up top, did someone stand on his toes? hehe,
hello Caro, happy new thread! (edited for sloppy spelling)

Edited: May 6, 2012, 7:22am Top

'The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel' looks good, I saw Anderson Cooper interviewing Judy Dench
who is of course, wonderful. I would like to see that one..

May 6, 2012, 7:28am Top

Fabulous camel! Roni is quite the artist.

May 6, 2012, 8:07am Top

Morning Caro- Glad the movie was enjoyable! Good luck with the walk. No walking for me today, just sitting.

May 6, 2012, 11:14am Top

Hey Caro -

I'm sure you're already well into your walk - I hope it's going well!

>15 Dejah_Thoris: & 19

I should have been more clear. From what I understand (I could easily be wrong here, so somebody please speak up if I am), is that James wrote a piece of fanfic with the characters Edward and Bella that became hugely popular online. As far as I know, there are no werewolves. Since fanfic is generally illegal (if often ignored), she had to rework things when she got a publishing deal. I confess that I find it a little hard to believe that what's reputed to be a mediocre BDSM novel is going to set the women's movement back 30 years....

May 6, 2012, 11:28am Top


Edited: May 6, 2012, 1:19pm Top

#21 : By the way, Roni... I should have asked you if they had names, because if not, I'd like to name this one Sanjeev, because he looks a lot like a high school friend of mine who would always stand, throw back his head and howl whenever he won a 800m race.

#22 : haha... Megan, see my note above to Roni ... to me, he looks like he's going ... 'whhoooooo yeah! Beat THIS!'

#23 : Oh Kath..it's my favorite movie so far this year. I love it and will definitely watch it again. I love it so much I'm pretty sure I'll buy the DVD when it's out, like I did for 'Monsoon Wedding', 'Fire', 'Three Idiots' and 'Eat Drink Man Woman'.

#24 : Darryl, Roni was very generous with letting me adopt her camel collection. Every time I see any one of them (I've scattered them around the house), they never fail to lift my spirits and make me smile.

#25 : I'm sitting, I hope for the rest of the day, Marky-Mark. My feet deserve a good rest after the 20 miles this morning. Plus it's a good excuse to get stuck into The Redeemer for my next M&M book.

#26 : Curiouser and curiouser, Dejah. So no werewolves, huh? I'm really interested now to read the first one just to see what all the fuss is about. A friend of mine has just gotten hold of a copy, and she said she'll forward it to me when she's done .... despite her coworker's prediction that she will not want it out of her clutches.

#27 : Smoochies back, Rdear!

May 6, 2012, 1:18pm Top

I am triumphant! 20 miles and not a single blister! Whoohooo.... And this year, I didn't stop at the halfway point to even grab the bag of juice, apple and potato chips but soldiered on, head down (because I didn't want to look at the looming hills that I'd have to walk up).

I finished my 8th Walk for Hunger in 3 hours and 10 mins. I ran 8 miles, then walked briskly for the next 10 miles and then trotted (no way I could call that last 2 miles a run) the last 2 miles to the finish line. I saw the dark clouds looming over the horizon and didn't want to still be doing the race if the rains came down, so that persuaded me to run the last 2 miles.

It felt sooooooo good to get my shoes off my feet when the hubster drove the car around to pick me up after he met me at the finish line. There was a huge party on the Boston Common at the finishing line and some good bands playing on stage, and of course free Ben & Jerry's ice cream for all participants, but I was really hungry and just wanted a shower... and be bare foot for a while.

My toes almost wept when I eased my shoes off.

Wanted steak and eggs for breakfast, but settled for corned beef hash, 2 eggs, farmer's sausages, toast and a tall glass of fresh squeezed orange juice.

Now my feet is up as I sit on the couch, watching The Bulls and Sixers in Game 4 of the playoffs on TV, and the hubster is cleaning the house and bathrooms. Sweet!

May 6, 2012, 1:31pm Top

Congratulations, Caroline! Your rest is well-deserved. Enjoy your afternoon. :)

May 6, 2012, 1:40pm Top

Congratulations, Caro! That is a great accomplishment, both the run (with no blisters) and the fund-raising.

No, I never named the camels, so feel free. I'm so glad you are enjoying them--I am sure they are much happier than when they were packed away in a box in the attic.

Safe travels this coming week!

May 6, 2012, 1:43pm Top

Congrats on a successful walk/run-a-thon Caro!

You won't be catching me reading any of those Fifty Shades books anytime soon, or ever. I usually use touchstones for everything that's likely to have one here on LT, but I refuse to even make that title stand out in blue! I'm just not a great fan of blatantly commercial endeavours I guess, especially when they're being marketed as vehicles for sex. Kinda grosses me out. Not that I judge or anything. ;-)

May 6, 2012, 1:51pm Top

Well done Caro - 20 miles! You doing a walk for hunger is a little akin to the buy more than you read erm I mean read more than you buy challenge - but at least the result is the same with money for charity. Lovely that you get Benn and Jerry's at the finish line.

May 6, 2012, 2:22pm Top

#30 : Thank you, Pat. Looks like the rain clouds moved away because it's nice and sunny out now. A friend came over a few minutes ago and has been trying to tempt to ride a bike or go rollerblading this evening if the weather stays slightly warm.... he doesn't get why I'm laughing at him. Then again, this is the same guy who took part in the Boston-Montreal-Boston cycle-thon so he's somewhat immuned himself to pain.

#31 : Thanks, Roni. I was a little worried about blisters because my usual running shoes were still wet from yesterday's run in the woods, so I had to wear a new pair that I hadn't yet broken in. But the 2 layers of socks worked once again, thankfully.

I will try to travel safely.

#32 : Thanks, Ilana.

I've heard some say that Fifty Shades is really a romance series and Dejah's mentioned that it started as fanfic. Oh well .. if I do read it, I promise not to post anything about it on your thread. I do wonder if this is just getting more buzz because of social media.

#33 : Oi, oi Paul ... I'm still way under in my purchase v read ratio. nyah nyah! And I've already managed to con ...errr... convince a friend to double his donation if I do this again next year. Ha!

May 6, 2012, 2:24pm Top

Great effort on the walk, Caro! Hope you are still on the sofa being waited on by your husband with yummy food.

May 6, 2012, 2:35pm Top

*confetti toss* at the victory over blisters

Edited: May 6, 2012, 6:31pm Top

#35 : I am now, Cushla! ;-)

#36 : There were some very bloody feet being treated at some of the first aid stops along the route, richard. So yes, my feet proudly accept the confetti toss.

So after much cajoling, and the promise of a treat, I gave in and dragged out my bike a couple of hours ago. Biked into Concord with our determined friend, and stopped at Helen's a cute and cozy restaurant for a late lunch. A berry smoothie, lobster BLT+A (really a lobster roll with a BLT in it and avocado added) and a mug of green tea made for a very satisfactory lunch after the 7 mile ride. We all brought a book with us and after lunch, grabbed our tea and sat out on a bench in the sun to read. *bliss* I didn't even mind riding back.

I've got a leg of lamb roasting in the oven and having just taught the hubster how to peel potatoes, have left him in the kitchen where he is arguing politics with our friend, Manuel, who's doing something clever with artichokes (actually he's peeling them, something I'm hopeless at, so to me, that's a gift).

May 6, 2012, 6:56pm Top

Hi Caro- Are your little toes done weeping? Joyful little fellas. Congrats on finishing! Funny, Laura brought my wife a copy of Fifty Shades (I didn't put it in blue text for Ilana) and she's had her nose buried in it. It's very doubtful I'll read it but hey whatever trips your trigger.
Have you read Alice in Sunderland. It truly is a wonderful GN. Incredibly ambitious.

May 6, 2012, 7:28pm Top

Well done, Caroline! Have a relaxing evening; you deserve it.

May 6, 2012, 9:22pm Top

Ooh. Camel envy.

Uh, wow. Your husband didn't know how to peel potatoes? That's kind of amazing. I mean the skill it would take living that number of Thanksgivings without ever being roped into potato duty. That's almost legendary.

May 6, 2012, 9:50pm Top

big congrats on the big walk Caro! well done, must feel great on so many levels

May 6, 2012, 10:07pm Top

You did it! Congrats!
20 miles - no blisters :)
Now you can throw on the heels and run to your international meetings :-}

Hope you have a safe trip -
Lobster BLTs, huh? I'll have to look out for one of those... or try making one ???

May 7, 2012, 8:32am Top

20 miles!!! That's fabulous. I'd give my feet the rest of the week off if I were you. Haha.

May 7, 2012, 8:53am Top

Caro, I rested my toesies all day yesterday in homage to your run/walk. I also nursed the two blisters on my hands that I got from trimming shrubs and raking the day before. No Ben and Jerry for me either!

I like your new camel with an attitude. Wouldn't it be fun to see what else Roni has in her attic?

Safe travels to you!

May 7, 2012, 12:21pm Top

My daughter id a run the same day.. but it was a half marathon. She has decided to do only halves from now on... her knees... you see.

I am glad that you made the run, and as always perplexed as to why anyone wants to.
( including my daughter)

The movie is on my list.. I have a 2 year long list with about a dozen movies on it that sounded appealing, none of which I have seen. hmm. I might need a new plan.

May 7, 2012, 2:06pm Top

29> CONGRATULATIONS!!! 20 miles -- run, walked, and jogged -- is no small feat! And no small feet, either. ;-) Well done, Caro, and that makes the frothy jacuzzi that much more deserved.

May 7, 2012, 7:03pm Top

#38 : The toes were tapping blissfully in the office today (I had my Rhythms Del Mundo CD playing at work), Marky-Mark.... but my calves and butt protested a little whenever I walked down the stairs. Still, I've definitely got more than enough butt to spare, so I consider the workout worth the slight discomfort... especially since I'll be sitting on it for more than 20 hours tomorrow on my flight to Melbourne.

Let us know what your wife thinks of the book when she's done.

I haven't read Alice in Sunderland but I have read Grandville by the same author. If it's anything as good as Grandville, I'm definitely adding it to my obese wish list for GNs.

#39 : Thanks, Darryl.... relaxing it was. We did nothing but eat, sit, chat and drink.

#40 : Jenn, the hubster grew up in a family where the men/boys were not expected to lift a finger in the kitchen. As such, he can fix himself a oatmeal in the morning or a bowl of cereal, but that's about it. He'd never peeled potatoes or carrots before, and literally can't boil an egg unless you want one that's not extremely hard boiled. He does wash the dishes and vacuum the house very well though .....to his mother's surprise because he never had to do that at home growing up either. But I told her, either he chips in and helps around the house or he lives out in the yard in a tent.

My MIL is a lovely woman, but seriously, what was she thinking?!! When we're over at his parents' house, the guys have always (and still do) just sat down at the dinner table after it's been set, and food brought in from the kitchen by his mother and sister (and now me too). It drives me nuts, but since not my house so I just grit my teeth and bear it. They don't even get up to make their own coffee or tea but expect it to be made to order and served to them. Arrrgggghhhh!!

But when they come visit with us, the hubster is always serving them and he sets the table AND washes up after ...despite my MIL telling him to just sit down and let her and his sister do it. Hmph! Trying to break all my hard work training him.

May 7, 2012, 7:23pm Top

#41 : Thanks, Megan. I do love this particular Walk. I do another one later in the year to raise funds for the Alzheimer's Association.

#42 : Thanks, Cee. And yes, lobster BLTs absolutely rock! You have to make it. Just make lobster salad, make a BLT, slice some avocado .. combine between slices of toasted bread. Voila! Heaven in your mouth.

#43 : Thanks, Faith. Thankfully my feet were ok today, just the calves and butt twinged a bit. ;-)

#44 : Donna... thank you.. my toesies welcomed the solidarity... toesies unite! haha... Sorry to hear about your blisters though... I've always wondered which is better ... to burst or not to burst?

I envisage Roni's house as being a treasure trove of books, cats, pots and beautiful jewelry.... and a lush vegetable and flower garden. I think I've just described paradise!

#45 : Congrats to Amy! I don't do these runs on a regular basis ...at most, twice a year, Kath. I have some friends who run ultra marathons and THAT I really don't understand.

Does your library have the movies on your list?

#46 : Thanks Ellen ...and better yet, my Nike Frees actually took me through the whole thing. In hindsight, I should have used my trail shoes to run in because they have more cushioning, but oh well ... my feet were rather sore at the end, but at least I didn't get blisters.

May 7, 2012, 7:24pm Top

The Redeemer by Jo Nesbo

When a soldier with the Salvation Army is shot and killed, the lack of a motive, suspect and weapon frustrates the Norwegian crime squad. What could have been the perfect crime, however, begins to unravel when the killer realizes that he's made a mistake a killed the wrong person.

With his nemesis gone and his alcoholism under control for the time being, Harry Hole should be dancing on cloud nine. Instead, his boss retires and is replaced with a man who appears to play by the book and want to instill military-style discipline in the unit and he's now faced with a seemingly invisible killer.

As the killer proceeds to go after his intended target, Harry and his team grasp at all and any possible clues that might help them understand the motive and uncover the identity of the murderer. But time is running out, and even as they manage to discover that the murderer is traveling under a false identity, the killer continues to keep one step ahead of Harry and his team and the danger to his team escalates as the killer becomes more desperate.

The escalating tension will keep the reader turning the pages right up to the surprise at the end.
5 stars

I absolutely love this and I read the whole thing in one day because I just couldn't put it down.

May 7, 2012, 7:55pm Top

...nothing to say....
apart from...gee my ginger buttermilk scone tastes great right now! Hmm, Id better walk a marathon too, get the calories gone again :)

May 7, 2012, 8:07pm Top

Megan, whatever calories I may have lost yesterday I'm sure I've put on and more this evening ... made southern fried chicken, brussell sprouts sauteed with crispy bacon, and mashed potatoes.

May 7, 2012, 8:16pm Top

I have to say my mouth is watering at that meal.

May 7, 2012, 8:18pm Top

Following up on your hubster story, Caro, I grew up not learning how to cook (I did other chores - mowing grass, chopping wood, shoveling snow, taking the garbage out, that kind of thing). But when I was on my own I learned - enchiladas and pasta were my best.

Then I got married to a much better cook and stopped cooking. My wife still teases me about it (I used to cook for her), but she's way better. I do the clean-up and dishes, like your guy.

I will say, as much as I like sitting back and being served, and not cleaning up and doing dishes, just like everyone does (which is a reason why we love restaurants, right?) your MIL's way just ain't right. Sounds like your hubster knows that, too.

May 7, 2012, 9:00pm Top

Edd was clearly raised by my mother in law's twin.
Only in her house, she did all grass cutting, painting and repairs too.
At least he does that!

ALL of my kids can cook and sew. And clean. and.. well you know..
we were an equal opportunity chore household. Now my sons can hold their own
in a home, including kitchen. Two unmarried.. anyone interested?

May 7, 2012, 9:11pm Top

My husband grew up in a house where his Dad cooked and did dishes, so he does too. Only, his mom cooks really weird food. Her standby was TVP. She put it in everything. I'm not kidding.
We had to work on the gourmet skills early on in our marriage. Mainly, I just recommended cracking open a cook book if he was considering a recipe he'd never made before. LOL. I don't think any of them were ever taught to cook.
One time his sister came to visit. While we were both at work, she decided to make dinner. It was lasagna noodles alternating with tomato sauce (sauce - NOT marinara) and grated carrot. It was nasty gross. I had to take her in hand too and I'm quite pleased with the results. It took about 10 years, but she's a passable cook now.

Oddly enough, I am the one who grew up in a home where my Mom did everything. Well, my Dad did the shopping, but she cooked it and cleaned up. She did teach my brothers to cook and clean though, bless her heart. It stuck with a couple of them...

May 7, 2012, 10:39pm Top

#52 : It was finger-licking good (well, apart from using a fork for the mashed potatoes and brussels) if I may say so, Megan. I love southern fried chicken.

#53 : Joe - At least you grew up doing other chores. MIL and FIL would make the hubster and his younger brother take the trash out when they got older, but that's about it. They don't even take their plates to the kitchen, nevermind even so much as scrape the plates and put them in the dishwasher. But yes, the hubster does help out at home .. in fact, he's wonderful when we have dinner guests over because he's the one who'll clear the table after each course, mini wash all the plates and cutlery and put them in the dishwasher, and put leftovers away in plastic tubs for the fridge, or for our friends to take home with them...while I sit and chat with our friends. Yes, I'm grateful and appreciate him every time. ;-)

#54 : LOL...not quite, Kath. My MIL draws the line at manual labor... they hire landscapers for their tiny handkerchief patches of front and back yard, 2 lovely ladies to clean the house and Joe, their jack-of-all-house-repairs.

Edd doesn't mind doing the work ....when he decides to do the mowing, cleaning etc...

And Kath..how old? haha...I may have a few candidates.

#55 : Way to go, Jenn ... I'm sure your SIL's family thank you in their hearts daily for their improved meals. :-)

I grew up in a family where my mom did most of the cooking, but my dad would help out in the kitchen with the food prep on weekends. It was their 'together' time. My brother and I would help my mom on weekdays after school.

May 7, 2012, 10:44pm Top

Part of the Furniture by Mary Wesley.

Unloved by her mother, disliked by her aunt, considered a plaything by childhood friends, Juno is not thought of quite so much as a person in her own right but as ...well, just someone who's there.

With WWII escalating, her mother in Canada, now remarried, her aunt trying to bully her into signing up for some war service work, Juno is entrusted with a letter to deliver in the country wherein she finds herself warmly welcomed and seemingly immediately adopted by the inhabitants and neighbors.

Watching the relationships that develop between Juno, the housekeeper, the country gentleman in whose house she has come to live, the farm manager and the nosy neighbor is part of what makes this a truly delightful read, as does watching Juno learn to enjoy being among people who love and care for her.
4 stars

I'm sad..I've now read all of Wesley's books. What will I do? Oh I know.... re-read them. :-)

May 7, 2012, 10:55pm Top

>54 mckait: I have two nice single friends, professionals, intelligent, funny, nice looking....would your two be willing to relocate? :)

May 7, 2012, 11:17pm Top

Thumbs upped both your reviews, Caro!

May 8, 2012, 8:24am Top

Candidates !! cool!Bring 'em on! ( pics on my profile.. lol)

I actually think that either of them would do well with a woman older than themselves..
Megan..I have no doubt that Cory would! He is actually talking about London at the minute :P
NZ would probably appeal.. but he does have a perfect for him job :)

One is 39, a bit on the curmudgeonly side but is well loved
by friends and colleagues alike. He is an artist.

One is 34 and is a bit moody...but has a good income and is a musician and doe some
acting for fun. The moodiness mostly kicks in when things are not going well in his life :( but
There are others like that.

Part of the Furniture... I dare not read that one, as that is how I feel all too often.

Edited: May 8, 2012, 9:12am Top

Well Kath, you're certainly not part of the furniture around here. :)

Caro - I have never read any Mary Wesley. Where should I start?

May 8, 2012, 6:49pm Top

hehe, Caro plays host to an international dating site!

My two are both 36 so age-wise we are all good. Just the international thing that could be a problem....

Happy re-reading Caro! Isnt it nice to know if we run out of books, we have all got all the ones we have loved to read again.

May 8, 2012, 7:44pm Top

awww Jenn, how nice :)

Edited: May 8, 2012, 9:42pm Top

#58: Megan's - NZ would be kinds far for both her sons to be from her. How about you take one and I'll take the other ....... for our 'candidates' - that way we both get to see Kath when she visits them? :-)

#59: thank you rdear. Smoochies.

#60: Kath -symantec has a NZ office..... just saying. Haha.
I think it's interesting you think they'll do better with older women. How much older and do they need a mothering personality? Do they need the woman to have her own teeth and hair? Just want to get the reqs you know... :-)

And you are most defknitely NOT part of the furniture on LT! ........and the title notwithstanding I think you'll like this book.

May 8, 2012, 9:41pm Top

#61: Jenny - oh wow ...where to start with Wesley.... hmmmm... almost anywhere really because they're all independent stories although there are a few books where some characeters resurface. I honk I would recommend you start with Imaginative Experience.

May 8, 2012, 9:45pm Top

#62: You've found my guilty secret, Megan's .... I'm a matchmaker at heart. Haha

I absolutely love re-reading some books.... there's comfort to be found with old friends, even when you know what they'd going to say and how things end.

Edited: May 8, 2012, 9:54pm Top

Am currently in San Francisco's airport waiting for my flight to Melbourne in a couple of hours.

I'll probably get up and walk around for the next hour before I have get some fruit n water to take with me on my flight. I've packed a peanut butter n jelly sandwich and a salamis n mozzarella sandwich this morning for the flight too. I detest plane food and almost always bring my own.

I get into Melbourne at about 9.30am and will zip to the hotel for a shower and walk to. The office in time for lunch with the crew.

So I'll post again when I'm in Melbourne. Too bad I don't know of any LTers there ......would have been fun doing another MeetUp.

Hope u all keep my little thread warm in the meantime.

May 8, 2012, 10:00pm Top

Wow. I can't believe you're traveling again so soon! Have a safe trip to Melbourne, my friend.

May 8, 2012, 10:18pm Top

Safe travels, Caro! Check in when you can!

May 8, 2012, 10:32pm Top

Have a safe and enjoyable trip Caro.

Edited: May 8, 2012, 10:33pm Top

I like your idea caro :). And NZ is far!

Why older? Well, i think my oldest is...very settled, he enjoys his video games, but isn't a partier. Neither are. In fact, these two are much alike in many ways. Movie buffs, one an artist, one a musician. Both military vterans who served overseas. Both readers, Cory more so.

And younger, hasn't worked so far....lol.

I will take a look at the book tomorrow :)

And yes! Be safe and keep in touch, hugs

May 9, 2012, 12:19am Top

Are you there yet?

May 9, 2012, 8:26am Top

My husband is an excellent cook and does a LOT around the house. But get him to his parents and he's a different person. He won't lift a finger. Won't help serve, won't wash a dish, nothing. It's really odd.

May 9, 2012, 3:55pm Top

I love southern fried chicken.
Me, too.

Safe travels, Caroline!

May 9, 2012, 4:27pm Top

Have a good trip, Caro!

May 10, 2012, 9:53am Top

Safe travels! Thanks for the book rec. I will see if my library has it.

May 10, 2012, 1:46pm Top

Are you there yet?

May 10, 2012, 4:33pm Top

Hope your flights have gone well! Enjoy your time in Melbourne

May 12, 2012, 10:24am Top

Hello everyone... I love that I'm logging in finally and seeing some conversations continuing here. Thanks for not allowing my thread to fall into a black hole of loneliness.

I've been the Duracell bunny since I arrived in Melbourne on Thursday morning. Arrived at 10am and was in the office (after checking into my hotel and taking a shower of course) by 12.30pm. I managed to grab dinner with my 2 colleagues who are also here with me, but then had conference calls at 11pm and another at midnight.

Friday was a relatively fun day at the office though. It was all go during the day, but at 4.30pm one of the guys had brought his deep fryer and we'd gone to the supermarket after lunch to buy some chicken wings and beer. I had brought a big bottle of Texas Pete's buffalo sauce from the US over and we made buffalo chicken wings out on our office terrace and sat around eating that and drinking beer.

Took an all day tour to the Great Ocean Road which is a coastal drive outside Melbourne today with 3 friends. The weather wasn't great but wasn't too bad. We had checkered rain, sun and clouds all day.

May 12, 2012, 10:32am Top

The 12 Apostles

No, those aren't clouds in the distance but higher waves.

May 12, 2012, 10:50am Top

What absolutely stunning photographs! You must have seen some fabulous sites
in your travels...

Glad to hear that you are safe and sound and having a nice time :)

May 12, 2012, 10:59am Top

Great photos of a recalcitrant sea - nice to see you making waves in Oz.

May 12, 2012, 11:14am Top

Beautiful, Caro! Glad you got some time to enjoy where you are.

May 12, 2012, 11:18am Top

Amazing pictures! Glad to see you are enjoying yourself

May 12, 2012, 11:27am Top

Oooo pretty!

May 12, 2012, 11:37am Top

Love the photos, Caroline!

May 12, 2012, 6:28pm Top

Caro- Thanks for checking in and supplying us some gorgeous photos! What a beautiful place. I wanna go. Wah!

May 12, 2012, 8:03pm Top

A Lonely Death - by Charles Todd
When 3 men in the same village in Sussex are garrotted and left with old army tags in their mouths of soldiers in WW1, but there are no witnesses and no weapons, Inspector Rutledge is called in to investigate. Still suffering from PTSD himself and having received news that his best friend had just killed himself, Rutledge isn't long in Sussex before another man is killed in the same fashion, with a similar item left in his mouth too.

What could the motive possibly be for killing these men, and can he find the murderer before he kills again?

Together with the spirit of Hamish, a soldier he feels responsible for having died in the war, Rutledge tenaciously pieces together whatever clues he can uncover, even when it's clear someone is trying to remove him from the case altogether.

3.8 stars

I do like this series and it just keeps getting better and better. I just want to cuddle Ian Rutledge and make him giant mugs of tea.

May 12, 2012, 8:07pm Top

And to all the moms here on LT ....

I'm off for breakfast with my friends and will try to dodge the raindrops today.

I had a serious workout this morning and my butt's already feeling sore and my stomach growling with hunger. I did get rained on quite a bit this morning when I ran through the Botanic Gardens that's conveniently close to the apartment I'm staying in, and so the hot shower helped thaw out my chilled bones. But I'm looking forward to a nice day of rest in city today ...and if I can, I'm going to sneak in a visit to one of my favorite bookstores for a spell.

May 12, 2012, 8:11pm Top

>88 cameling: Thumbs-upped your very concise review!

May 12, 2012, 8:14pm Top

Id love to do that drive of the Great Ocean Road, Im sure Ill get to it one day as it isnt exactly that far away from here. Those fantastic waves! The stuff of my recurring nightmares, but Im fascinated by them just the same.

May 13, 2012, 5:43pm Top

OMG those pictures Caro. So inviting... I can see you're having a great time.

May 14, 2012, 7:04am Top

Beautiful pictures. Have a lovely time!

May 14, 2012, 8:04am Top

#90 : Thanks for the thumbs, Rdear

#91 : Megan, the waves were amazing. At some spots along the beaches, we saw some die hard surfers out in the freezing waters waiting to catch their perfect waves ....and at a few parts, they seemed to be quite close to being dashed on some rather vicious looking rocks too. We were told that the rip tides along this part of the coast were particularly treacherous too. Madness, I thought, to be out in a little surfboard in all these conditions.

#92 : Bonnie - a great time was indeed to be had ..over the weekend. But now it's back to the grindstone and today has been a particularly grueling day ...which hasn't yet ended. I've got 2 conference calls tonight, the last of which STARTS at midnight. *sigh* And tomorrow looks to be a long day as well.

#93 : Thanks, Morphy.

This week will be pretty hard going, with lots of meetings and conference calls and the rest of the time in the office. But I'm looking forward to the coming weekend ...because 2 of my US and Canadian colleagues who are also here with me this week, will have gone home ...and I'll have some alone time for a change. They're nice people and I do enjoy their company, but between all that time in the office here with them, and having breakfast, lunch and dinner with them, I really am looking forward to just being on my own for a change ...until the following week when I'll again have to be with 3 other colleagues in Sydney. But the weekend alone will be very welcome so I can do my own thing.

Edited: May 14, 2012, 8:19am Top

A Trick of the Light by Louise Penny ... yes, I know... finally got around to reading this installment of the Three Pines series and I absolutely loved it. I'm not going to write a review because it's already been reviewed to death by others here on LT who write far far better reviews than me.

I am giving it 4 stars though because I think it's definitely one of the better ones in the series. I can't wait to get a copy of The Beautiful Mystery, the next in the Three Pines series.

I've downloaded her short read 'The Hangman' for my Kindle (touchstone not found), apparently a short one in the Three Pines series.

Also read Husband Hunting 101 by Rita Herron, a fun quirky murder mystery romance that I downloaded because it was a free Kindle book. It was a perfect book to relax with at the end of some long days because it was funny and didn't require concentration.
2.5 stars

May 14, 2012, 8:20am Top

Why do they think that you don't need to sleep?
Next time, just start loud snoring on the phone :)

I think that short story is only available outside the US.. but I could sure be wrong..
I loved A Trick of the Light...Next one due is early fall I think?

Be safe and hang in there !

May 14, 2012, 9:39am Top

Ah, glad to hear you loved A Trick of the Light, Caro. She's put together a great series, and a lasting character in Inspector Gamache.

May 14, 2012, 9:44am Top


May 14, 2012, 12:24pm Top

>96 mckait: I was able to dowload The Hangman from Amazon in the US without problem - take a look for it.

May 14, 2012, 1:53pm Top

Hi Caro, I'm glad you got some downtime over the week end. The pictures are just awesome. Your work schedule this week sounds grueling. I hope you find some more time to play!

May 14, 2012, 11:39pm Top

Happy travels Caro, Im off for a weeks holiday myself (with the whole family, so more a change of scenery than actual rest).

>94 cameling: 24/7 can be a little TOO much companionship!

May 15, 2012, 11:17pm Top


May 16, 2012, 7:19am Top

You look busy and happy in your FB pics!

May 17, 2012, 6:16pm Top

The photos up in #80 are stunning. The waves look a bit intimidating.....!! I'm glad you're getting some good vacation reading in even while seeing the territory.

May 17, 2012, 8:31pm Top

#96 : Hey ho Kath ... a friend in the US told me about The Hangman (touchstone now working) so go check it out on Amazon.

#97 : Joe, I wonder though how long she'll continue with this series. I was getting the impression that Inspector Gamache, in The Trick of the Light is starting to groom his team to take over sooner rather than later, and I wonder if it's an inkling of his starting to think of retirement? :-(

#98 : Hello sumi18, thank you for visiting my thread.

#99 : Ta da ... good job, Judy! have you started reading it yet?

#100 : The weekend was a lot of fun, Donna. I'm just about trucking on low now that it's Friday here in Melbourne. I've had 3 nights in a row with conference calls at 10pm, 11.30pm and 12.30am and last night was the first I've had with no night conference calls. Yaay! I zonked off to sleep after a late dinner with my friends and slept like the dead until 6 this morning.

May 17, 2012, 8:37pm Top

#101 : Can't wait to see your holiday photos, Megan! Have a good trip and safe travels.

#102 : Hi Jenn.... what are you crafting these days?

#103 : Haha Kath....that's because the pics were taken over the weekend .. you should see me today in the office!

The good news is that my last meeting for today ends at about 3.30pm ...and I'm very very very tempted to call it an early day and leave the office around 4ish.
The better news is it's Saturday tomorrow! wheee... so I don't need to wake up early and I've no plans to do anything except laze about and read over a leisurely breakfast when I do wake up, then meet a friend and his family for brunch after which I hope they'll just drop me off in the city to wander around on my own. I'd like to visit the National Gallery tomorrow because they've got a new art exhibit on the Impressionists for a spell.

#104 : Alas, Ellen, the reading was halted the minute Monday this week came around. I've had no time at all to do more than cursory reads at night before falling asleep or a half hour or so on the exercise bike in the gym in the morning if I have enough time for a workout before heading out to the office.

May 17, 2012, 8:43pm Top

It's Friday! It's Friday! I'm taking the team at the office out to lunch today at their favorite restaurant since I'm leaving this weekend for Sydney and they won't have to see me again here for another couple of months.

We had a cookout on our terrace the day before yesterday when the weather was surprisingly beautiful. Sunny and not a drop of rain for a change. So the grill we bought for the office was put to good use. Someone brought in meat for burgers, sausages, and steak, and others went out to buy paper plates, drinks, pasta and potato salads and some cheese and bread.

Had a wonderful lunch sitting outside on our office terrace thawing out from the past few chilly days in the sun.

There's a bookstore downstairs in our office building and they're having a sale where all books are being sold at a 40% discount. Sadly, it's a going out of business sale, so the next time I come over, the bookstore won't be here. :-(

May 17, 2012, 9:05pm Top

Caro - bittersweet. Lovely barbie (office terrace; sounds like your antipodean bretherendo things properly) but alas another book store hits the skids. Shame Katie and myself didn't live in the vicinity we could have given them a few extra months.

May 17, 2012, 9:40pm Top

You are whirling faster than the earth! I've been busy too - a very good busy. Sorry to have missed so much of your thread though. I'll have more time now.

BTW - Everytime I wear the cat/music T-shirt, I get sooo many positive comments. So, I think of you often ;-) It's fun.

Your ocean pictures are awesome - wish I was there!
Have a super great weekend - and rest up for the next leg of your trip... safe travels :)

May 17, 2012, 9:52pm Top

Glad the weekend has arrived there, Caro, and you can get some well-deserved rest.

May 18, 2012, 7:58am Top

>108 PaulCranswick: - LOL at Paul :)

Hi Caro! You got unstarred somehow (I blame the iPhone) but I am now caught up on the 150 or so posts I've missed. Phew!

May 18, 2012, 8:08am Top

Found it on ammy, thanks Caro!

Glad to see that you are keeping happy busy :)

Edited: May 18, 2012, 11:05pm Top

Hi Caro. Do you really want to know? :) I just finished copying a cute little dress for my friend's 2 year old. It was her favorite, all her girls have worn it, and it's worn out. So I made her a new one. I am working on the bedspread for my daughter's bed and I just got some patio furniture from my neighbor that I am going to recover in the next month or so - as soon as my husband and I can agree on a fabric choice. Oh, and a friend and I are going to hold a week long craft camp for our two daughters and their friends, so we're planning that. I'm behind on the crafting stuff because I have had some sort of housework curse. A mysterious leak under the washer that turned out to be nothing, but did lead to me deep cleaning the laundry room, and an entire pitcher of apple juice dropped on the floor of my kitchen - in front of the fridge - leading to a deep cleaning of floor, baseboards, cupboards and under the fridge. That kind of thing really sets you back on the recreational activities.

I just helped my kids sell all their outgrown toys - train table, outdoor playhouse, merry go round, play kitchen and we bought a trampoline. Hooray! It was really fun to go through the process with them. Helping them evaluate what they don't use any more and showing them how they can turn used toys into $$ for new toys. Now I will have a grown-up back yard! A patio with a dining table, umbrella and chairs and a trampoline. Very exciting.

Right this minute, I am waiting for the marshmallow brownies to cool. http://www.sixsistersstuff.com/2012/05/moms-famous-chocolate-marshmallow.html

That's about it.

What's up with you?

May 18, 2012, 11:51pm Top

Am loving reading abobut your Aussie trip - just caught up on about 60 messages! Hope you're having a good weekend in Sydney.

And LOL about your husband... I think... at least you have got him trained now. Am relieved that my specimen of husband is from the excellent cook subtype (which can be quite infuriating in its own way but is mostly a wonderful thing.)

May 19, 2012, 2:43am Top

Caro - still in Oz or not hoping your weekend goes great! Look forward to an update on the mountains of food you have been "nibbling" on over there.

May 19, 2012, 8:19am Top

So, will you be heading for home soon?

May 19, 2012, 8:33am Top

Hope you're enjoying the weekend, Caro! We'll be heading to Oz in about a month.

May 19, 2012, 7:10pm Top

upside-down *smooch* for antipodean Caro!

May 20, 2012, 7:00am Top

Just a quick post ... got into Sydney this afternoon and had time for a quick shower before meeting with a client (yes, on a Sunday!!) as he was off to Paris for a week and as the new CIO of the company, he wanted to meet with me instead of waiting to see me when I'm next in Sydney later this year.

But this is the view from my hotel room.... the Sydney Opera House!

I have a 7am start in the morning ... no rest for the wicked I guess. I will respond to all the lovely posts here soon...and I've read 'The Hanging Man' (hmm...touchstone not working again) and need to post my review and questions for LP fans here on LT.

May 20, 2012, 7:50am Top

Hi Caro- Thanks for checking in. Gorgeous photo!

May 20, 2012, 8:39am Top

Wow, what a view!

May 20, 2012, 8:59am Top

So beautiful! I'm glad that you have a great place to stay..
I suspect that there will be some adventures to report bythe time you get home?

May 20, 2012, 9:51am Top

Caro - it must be really dull working for your company - I mean - you never get to go anywhere! Great photo.

May 20, 2012, 11:51am Top

Oh how beautiful! Makes up for the client meeting on a Sunday just a little bit to have such a view.

May 21, 2012, 8:13am Top

Wow. What a beautiful view.

May 21, 2012, 8:53am Top

Fantastic hotel view - wish I was there ;-)

Like Paul, I do feel sorry for you - having such a boring job. But someone has to do it! lol

May 21, 2012, 9:38am Top

Looks great, Caro. Hard to beat that view for starting your day! Hope all is going well.

May 21, 2012, 9:00pm Top

awesome view!
Will you be able to see anything at the Opera house while you are in Sydney?

May 22, 2012, 12:29pm Top

Nice view from the hotel. I hope the trip is a successful one since your work is certainly keeping you busy these days!

May 23, 2012, 5:29pm Top

What the? You're in Australia again? Man, I close my eyes for a second and wham! You're across the world.

I saw a camel yesterday and thought of you, it was a plastic toy, and I almost bought it and took a photo to post for you. But I feared that that might have been going too far! It was really fun though :)

May 24, 2012, 3:04am Top

#120 : Hi Mark, yes the view from my room is pretty flash. It's even prettier at night.

#121 : Hi Judy - my colleagues here are miffed because all 3 of them have views of the city, so all they get to see are buildings. They have been trying to convince me to swap rooms with them ... ha!

#122 : Err.... were you in the hotel the other evening, Kath? Small adventure yes ... I was going to my room, walked down the hall and reading email on my phone at the same time, I turned towards a door which opened just as I got there, and lo and behold, a guy was standing there.
Me : Why are you coming out of my room?
Man : Why are you trying to come into my room?
Me : But this is my room
Man : Not unless you're the hooker I didn't call for
Me : *looks at number at the side of the door* .... oh oops... wrong room. Sorry.

#123 : haha ... yeah Paul, there are some perks doing what I do ...except when I have to 'indulge' in them too often.

#124 : Rdear- There's a mid-year light festival in Sydney starting on Friday night. I've seen some of the rehearsals around the Sydney Opera House and it looks great. I'll be leaving only on Saturday morning, so I'm looking forward to hanging out around Circular Quay and The Rocks during the festival and taking lots of photos which I'll share here.

May 24, 2012, 3:30am Top

#125 : Hi Morphy ... stay tuned .. there will be more over the weekend when I get home and download the photos I will be taking during the mid-year night festival here in Sydney.

#126 : Ha! My feet and very sore toes do not feel lucky at all, Cee. I've had to traipse all over the city going from meeting to meeting in heels and suits. Ugh! A few evenings this week we haven't had any business dinners, so at least I was able to come back to the hotel, shuck off the suit and heels and slide into my old faded jeans, sweatshirt and comfy *feeties actually sobbed with relief* sneakers before heading out for dinner.

#127 : Hi Joe, I have a few very cool food and drink photos that I'll be downloading and then putting up on this thread or yours over the weekend. ;-)

#128 : Chelle, I've been to a performance at the Opera House some years back. It's also just down the road from my hotel, and I was just there last night for a walk ...it's just such a pretty area. And with the light festival starting tomorrow night, the Opera House is also going to be part of the festival and they're going to have a light display on it, while a performance goes on inside. I'll take some pics.

#129 : Hi Ellen, the trip is successful from a work perspective so far ... just very sore on the feet. I may need shoe retail therapy tomorrow afternoon. haha I have the afternoon off and will welcome some me-time .... my Melbourne colleagues will head off to the airport and my London colleague is going to meet his cousin before he leaves the day after.

#130 : Awww..Megan, thanks for thinking of me. If you blink in the next day or so, the next time you open it, I may be across the world again ..back home! wheeee! I can't wait.

Here's me with Skippy the Kangaroo ... on my way to a meeting.

May 24, 2012, 3:34am Top

haha, looking happy there Caro! Excellent photo of you and skippy.

May 24, 2012, 4:27am Top

I want to know what is koala is whispering in your ear Caro? Is it anything to do with the extremely phallic looking tail of the kangaroo. And why does the kangaroo look so peeved - I'd be proud of such a tail?!

May 24, 2012, 7:13pm Top

LOVE that photo!

Hope you are squeezing some fun in between all the work!

May 24, 2012, 8:58pm Top

130: You're supposed to say "I'm the one on the left".

Reminds me that "Harvey" the great classic play about the man and his friend the six foot tall invisible rabbit, is in previews prior to a Broadway opening coming up.

The man (Elwood P Dodds is his name though he will always be Jimmy Stewart to me) is told he has to "face up to reality".

"Doctor" he replies, "I faced up to reality for thirty years and I finally licked it".

Here's wishing our Caro a safe flight home

Edited: May 24, 2012, 9:14pm Top

A double post! I thought it wasn't possible any more, and I've managed to do it twice. Maybe I'll go buy a lottery ticket.

May 24, 2012, 9:13pm Top

Hah! Nice Elwood story, James.

And I loved your 'wrong room' story, too, Caro. And the photo op with Skippy. What a life you lead!

Safe travels home.

May 25, 2012, 12:16am Top

extremely phallic looking tail
haha! now that you mention it.....tsk tsk Paul, Caro would never have even noticed that :)

May 25, 2012, 4:42am Top

Yippee Skippy! Such an adorable photo!

May 26, 2012, 2:29pm Top

Hey Caro! I've been absent from your thread for far too long. I must've missed a thousand injuries and accidents! :P

Hope you are relatively bruise-free.


May 26, 2012, 2:35pm Top

It's been a while since I've visited with you too Caro. You look like you're having a blast in that photo. I spent a good 3 weeks in NSW, with two of those in Sydney 5 years ago and had some of the best times of my life there. Have lots of great memories and great photos to keep them fresh. Speaking of which, I love the photos you posted in mid-May. Gorgerous!

Btw, I may not be in touch much, but I often comes across reviews you've written here over time as I check out books to add to my wishlist or tbr and always find them useful and entertaining!

May 26, 2012, 2:38pm Top

Caro's FB status from ~30min ago:

"One leg of the trip down ....am in SF and happy to announce (as I had expected) an uneventful flight thus far."

As I commented there, all that means is the plane didn't need to make an emergency landing so they could offload her presumed-dead-but-not-quite-so corpse.

May 26, 2012, 2:45pm Top

It can't be uneventful - something funny must have happened!

May 26, 2012, 2:59pm Top

Crying babies wo sounded as if they were being stabbed is all she'll admit to on FB.

May 26, 2012, 6:34pm Top

One woman's uneventful is another woman's high adventure.

May 27, 2012, 9:43am Top

So, what's the score?
Caro 1
Bat 0

? or?

May 27, 2012, 9:50am Top

Looking forward t hearing you're back, Caro. Hope it ends up being a good weekend for you.

May 27, 2012, 10:07am Top

Maybe Edd is actually a vampire bat?

Same bat time, same bat channel...

May 27, 2012, 10:53am Top

I look forward to hearing about .. well.. everything :)

May 27, 2012, 12:52pm Top

Ah....bats......someday if we ever meet-up, I'll share the Puli vs the bat story. Glad yours seem to have disappeared.

May 27, 2012, 1:07pm Top

Hopefully Caro is safely home today! And has tomorrow off, not but what she'll fill it with exercise and lots of friends and food.

May 27, 2012, 1:31pm Top

I forget where he got it from, but Mark says bat tastes like chicken.

May 27, 2012, 2:24pm Top

Caro- hope you are having a good weekend! And thanks for checking in. We miss you.

Joe- LOL! I got that from Disco for the Departed. It was duck not chicken. Just sayin'!

May 27, 2012, 2:41pm Top

#133 : Megan .. I loved the Skippy tv series when I was younger. Now it makes for good retro tv and really funny ... the kangaroo just clicks and grunts, and everyone understands that Skippy has just given directions to someone in danger.

#134 : You know, Paul... until you mentioned it, I hadn't noticed the phallic looking tail. I was too busy looking at Skippy, and ignoring Koko and Koala whispering that I should move Skippy away from him because he has a bad flatulence problem.

#135 : Yes, some fun was managed for a few minutes during the day, Kath ..and during the evenings over dinners. And on Friday night when there was a light festival around the harbor in Sydney. Pics will be posted shortly.

#136 : LOL .. love the story, Jim. A friend is supposed to be getting tickets to Harvey this summer ... so thanks for the reminder... I should check to see if he's bought them yet.

#137 : Did you buy a lottery ticket, Joe? A few of us pooled our money for a mega-millions lottery ticket in Australia ... alas, we didn't win a dime.

May 27, 2012, 3:12pm Top

#140 : How about a new friend for Ms Stella to play with, rdear? Skippy would like a new home, one where he's not considered a pest, shot at, skinned and sold off in parts for tourists, especially his scrotum and feet.

#141 : Hugs back at you, Stefano. I've been lurking on your thread periodically. I am, thus far, bruise-free but not blister-free. Developed some as the result of yardwork this morning.

#142 : Ilana, thanks for visiting when you can. I've been woefully remiss in the last few weeks because of my hectic schedule while i was in Australia. But I am back and will make an effort to catch up with my pals.

I enjoy Australia but boy is it expensive. The cost of food is ridiculously expensive there, but they do have the best savory pies on the face of the earth. I can't get enough of them. Pie Face is my absolute favorite meat pie franchise.

#143 : See? I can do uneventful flights, Richard... nothing untoward happened during my flight from SF back to Boston. My fellow passenger was engrossed in his own Kindle and I doubt if he'd even have noticed if I had indeed stopped breathing. Ta da!

#144 : Cushla ..nope, nada, not a single giggly moment during this return flight.

#145 : I can only be thankful that I did not forget my iPod during this flight, Rdear, because at least with the ear buds in and music on, I managed to drown out the more high pitched screams. I felt bad for the mothers ...they must have been frazzled trying to soothe the little babes during the 12 hour flight.

#146 : Really, Kath.. it was completely ho-hum.

May 27, 2012, 3:23pm Top

#147 : The other way around, i think, Kath. More like Bat - 1, Caro - 0. It was a completely weird experience. I don't even know how he managed to get into the house. I wonder if he flew in before Edd left a week ago, and has been flitting around trying to get out all this while? Or if he found a way in because the house was empty and then realized only last night that his new cave was actually being inhabited by humans.

I came home at 11pm, unpacked, took a shower, did laundry ...and walked all over the house, and not a thing. I sit on the couch, going through mail, watch some tv and from the corner of my eye, I see something flit from the ceiling in the dining room ... I step out and see something swoop out... initially thought it was a bird ...and then realized when it swooped into the kitchen that it was a bat.

Switched on the lights and went down the hall to open the front door ... hoping it would fly towards the fresh air and out of the house. Nothing doing ... i even try to entice him by calling out to him. I should work on my bat calls ... clearly it didn't do anything for the bat.

Closed the doors to some of the rooms and called the Bedford Police's animal control and a patrol car came around within 5 mins. Gotta love the response time.
The weird thing is when the patrolman came into the house, the bat completely disappeared. He looked in all the rooms upstairs and downstairs and couldn't find little Batty. How bizarre is that? I had a box all ready for him too. He disappeared as quickly as he appeared... (the bat, not the policeman)

So far, Batty hasn't appeared today .. I did leave the windows upstairs open, including the screens, so maybe he flew out at last? I'll see if he comes back tonight.

#148 : It's so good to be home again, Joe. 3 weeks away is too long of a biz trip. Thank goodness most of my trips don't hardly go longer than 2 weeks as a rule.

#149 : Haha... maybe, but Edd's in Singapore, Darryl. He left last week and will be away until the middle of June. The policeman who came over very kindly assured me that these bats probably just followed some insects in for a meal and that they don't bite humans ...usually, unless a towel is thrown over them and they're trying to get out. He also told me they have no eyes..which pretty much freaked me out .. I was fine with the bat until he said that. I can't imagine an animal with no eyes. Surely they must have something in the eye sockets? I know they fly by echo-location, but I thought they could see a little.

May 27, 2012, 3:38pm Top

#150 : Day of chores today, Kath. Nothing exciting. Mowed the front and back yards which resembled a jungle this morning, couldn't get the edge-trimmer going, so I have untrimmed edges, found a flattened chipmunk on the road by our front yard (boohoooo.... wonder if my taxi ran him over last night), did more laundry, found a pile of dishes in the sink (thanks Edd) which i threw into the dishwasher and started a full load, washed both cars (they were completely covered with pollen) and bought groceries. Still have the house to vacuum and windows to clean, but I think I'll leave those for tomorrow.

#151 : Tina - feel free to share the Puli vs bat story here. :-) When I called animal control, the woman who answered the call asked if I had any cats or dogs ... she said it would have been more complicated if we had animals in the house because the bat could have been rabid.

#152 : Hi Roni. yes, I'm home now and I have tomorrow off as well. So 2 days off before I had back to the office on Tuesday. I will head out for dinner with friends tonight. Exercise, I managed to get this morning when I mowed the yard. We have a sloped back yard, and pushing the lawn mower up the slope certainly gave me a work out.

#153 : Hmm....I can assure you I am not going to be cooking Batty if he returns, Joe.

#154 : Bat tastes like duck, Marky-Mark? hmm....does that mean squirrel tastes like duck too? In Malaysia, flying squirrels are considered game and I think served in some towns. I haven't tried it yet .. maybe Paul has. Must ask.

May 27, 2012, 3:56pm Top

Oops, bat tastes like duck. Sorry, Mark! I've never tried bat or squirrel. I did have salted grasshoppers once. Not bad, although I'm not sure I'd ever want to try it again.

I did buy a lottery ticket, Caro, and won zippo. The most I've ever won is $10 with a scratch-off. Our son, when he was about 6 years old, won $100 on a scratch-off we gave him when we were visiting his aunt and uncle. Very exciting!

May 27, 2012, 4:03pm Top

3 weeks away is too long of a biz trip? agreed

and bats have eyes!!!!silly cop.


May 27, 2012, 4:04pm Top

The Hangman (Good Reads) - by Louise Penny is a short Three Pines and Inspector Gamache book that I found on Amazon. I think it's only for solid fans of LP, because it was rather short and a little unsatisfying, IMO. The dialogue seemed rather stilted in this book and the characters rather 2 dimensional.

2.5 stars I think.

Odd. I'd like to see what others think of this.

When Pigs Fly by Bob Sanchez
Take 1 winning lottery ticket, a large ex-con with no love for personal hygiene, a pet javelina released in the Arizona desert and a tattooed drug dealer besotted with a hooker, mix that with a retired policeman with the ashes of a friend to scatter, an Elvis impersonator, a waitress looking to move to California and bake with a pair of fiesty octogenarians and 2 brothers with a combined IQ of 50.

What you get is a crazy chase across Arizona and some good belly laughs.

3.5 stars

May 27, 2012, 4:24pm Top

Part of the light show on the Sydney Opera House during Vivid Sydney 2012

morphs into this other picture

One of the light sculptures at the festival

Edited: May 27, 2012, 4:30pm Top

Sydney Harbour Bridge at night

Lightshow on the Museum of Contemporary Art

same building, changed lights

and another

May 27, 2012, 4:38pm Top

The Cat Manual by Michael Ray Taylor is a quick and fun read for cat lovers. It's a manual written by a cat for other cats, teaching them cat behaviors that entertain and 'train' their human handlers.

Great fun
3 stars

May 27, 2012, 6:26pm Top

Police Animal Control!? There ein 5 minutes!? Wow, maybe people should call them instead of the actual police in case of emergency, that is rapid response indeed! I hope ratty batty doenst show up again, *shudder shudder*

Fantastic pics of Sydney! I love art on buildings, it makes them look so much more appealing.

May 27, 2012, 6:34pm Top

Wow! Great photos!!

May 27, 2012, 7:06pm Top

Lovely photos! The Aussies have it all over us in their public art, eh?

May 27, 2012, 7:24pm Top


Welcome home, BTW, and like the reviews.


May 27, 2012, 9:18pm Top

Caro- Glad you made it back home safely! And thanks for sharing the great Sydney pics.
Okay, First Aid Reminder: If the bat gets tangled in your hair, peanut butter works wonders. It's not necessary to thank me. Good luck.

May 27, 2012, 9:20pm Top

Caro - hope you can get your breath for a few days before travelling off again. Great photos - Sydney has a lot of colours to fill up its night sky.

About weird and wonderful foodstuffs, of course, this region has its fair share - I once had crocodile and told the waiter to make it snappy.

May 27, 2012, 10:25pm Top

>170 PaulCranswick: *ignites torch*

Scythes, form a line to the left!

Pitchforks, down the middle!

Muskets and blunderbusses, to the right! I have the noose!


May 28, 2012, 2:41am Top

I'm way behind but I love the picture of you and the 'roo, as well as the photos of Sydney. And I'm not telling Abby about The Cat Manual as she already knows all the ways to train and entertain us humans.....

May 28, 2012, 2:42am Top

171> LOL (I think)

May 28, 2012, 12:18pm Top

>161 cameling: I felt the same way about The Hangman (Good Reads) - thin characters and a form too short for Penny's usual complexities.

May 28, 2012, 1:27pm Top

I did note that the plot lacked the layers that Penny usually has, but I think I was more generous with my point assessment because of the nature of a short story. I thought the puzzle was pretty good for the length of the novel. I did miss some of the regular characters though.

May 28, 2012, 1:37pm Top

I'll have to look out for The Cat Manual, sounds like fun. Try Why Cats Paint, it's my favourite silly cat book.

Edited: May 28, 2012, 1:54pm Top

#165 : Megan, the police and fire department in my town of Bedford are very responsive. The few times we've had to call emergency services, they've always arrived within 5-7 mins. The first time we called was when a car (with apparently no driver!) crashed into our front wall and then rolled across the street before coming to a stop against our neighbor's fence. We weren't sure if it was a drunk driver who slunk off, or if someone was attempting to steal a car, so the hubster armed himself with a bread knife (don't ask) and ran out the door looking for the driver on our property while I called the police. Within 5 mins, 2 squad cars and 1 fire truck appeared on our street.

Another time, our elderly neighbor across the street fell and called us but we couldn't get into her house, so we called the police and they came with a fire truck and paramedics within 5 mins.
And now with my bat calls, I'm starting to think that this is the normal response time.

#166 : Kath - I've uploaded 2 short recordings I made of the light show over the Sydney Opera House and on the Contemporary Art Museum onto youtube. Here are the links if you're interested to see if in 'action':



May 28, 2012, 2:05pm Top

#167 : Roni, I was really lucky that I was in Sydney just when their mid-year festival started. I sometimes find myself in cities either just after a public event has just ended or that I'm leaving a city just before something fantastic is about to start. This time the timing was perfect.

#168 : Despite the night bat adventures, rdear, it's good to be home. If you like the pics, take a gander at the videos I uploaded onto youtube ... links in the previous post.

#169 : Err.... why would the bat get entangled in my hair? aren't they supposed to be good at avoiding things through their echo location thingy? And when you say pb works wonders, do you mean i'm to eat the peanut butter to calm myself down, feed the bat the peanut butter (although if it's in my hair, how am i to see where his mouth is) or rub pb onto the bat or my hair? More specific instructions are requested. ;-)

#170 : Yes Paul .. barring a last minute trip request to Bangalore, I should not be traveling until June 19 to Tokyo. I'm supposed to be going to China the week after and then back to Tokyo again for the first week of July, but I'm nixing the China trip and just coming home for a week before heading out to Tokyo again in July. 3 weeks is just too long to be on a business trip.

LOL...so did the waiter get the joke? Did the croc come with teeth? Out of curiosity, how was it cooked? Tasted like ...fish? chicken?

Edited: May 28, 2012, 2:42pm Top

#171 : LOL ...thanks for making me snort water out my nose, richard!

#172 : Oh Ellen, I know what it's like to be behind on the threads. I'm woefully behind thanks to a seriously crazy schedule over the last 3 weeks. Now I'm going crazy catching up on what I've missed. Awww... Abby may enjoy having The Cat Manual read to her... in case there are a few tricks she hasn't yet mastered.

#174 : Judy - I hope this is just a one-off experiment on her part.

#175 : Lori - I think if I hadn't read any of her other books I may have thought more kindly of this book, but even for a short story, I thought it rather ho-hum.

#176 : Hi feca67, I agree, Why Cats Paint is a really fun book. I flipped through it at a bookstore some years ago before getting it as a gift for my aunt's birthday and it proved to be a real hit with her and her family.

May 28, 2012, 2:37pm Top

Hi Caro- I think the best bet is to eat the peanut butter. Enjoy. Hope you are kicking back today and getting some R & R in!

May 28, 2012, 3:02pm Top

The videos are wonderful! Thank you for sharing them :)

Yes, I suggest eating the PB ... I can tell you from experience it is no fun getting it out of hair.

Why Cats Paint ~ what a fun looking book :) and ammy had on for almost free at the marketplace .

May 28, 2012, 4:11pm Top

#180 : Ok, jar of peanut butter is out on the kitchen table at the ready for a bat hair attack tonight, Marky-Mark.

#181 : Glad you liked the videos, Kath. It was more spectacular in person ... and probably would have looked better if I had a more sophisticate camera instead of my little Canon idiot-proof.

Harry the bat emerged from his hiding/sleeping spot last night again after midnight, but this time confined his flights to the upstairs rooms. He must be a really deep sleeper because I had gone to the bathroom, brushed my teeth, taken a shower, put the tv in the bedroom on and was just about to put my sleepwear on when Harry swooped past me and flitted around the room. Almost ran downstairs naked to get the box, but remembered in time to at least put my chemise on before I did run down to get the box. Stood at the top of the stairs waiting for Harry to fly out of the room and into the bathroom (since I closed the door to the other bedroom) at the ready to throw the box over him. Well, wouldn't you know, that flying mouse surely has an amazing ability to avoid things in his path for something apparently blind because avoid the box over and over and over and over again he did. Arrgghhh....

I couldn't even get the bathroom door closed fast enough to trap him in there because he just flew out so quickly (maybe he could read my mind too?) so I ended up closing him into my bedroom. Ugh...not ideal since I'd just changed the sheets that evening.

Called animal control and once again, a patrol car pulls up in about 5 mins. Unfortunately, this time, the patrolman had no bat experience and didn't even seem too keen to come into the house. He said he'd take a look at it, but he wasn't going to catch it. I was really tempted to ask him why he bothered coming out at all, and if someone else with bat experience couldn't have come instead. Sheesh! He was clearly nervous and when he asked me how large the bat was, he paled when I spread my hands out to the estimated wing width. i told him I had confined the bat to the room and he said he'll go in and if he couldn't get it in a box, he'd try and shoot it instead! He quickly assured me that he was joking when he saw the horror on my face ....but I wonder if he really was joking. I don't want Harry in the house, but I surely don't want him shot and maimed or shot dead either.

Anyway, officer big noisy boots goes into the bedroom, switches on the light, clumps around the room, making more noise than a stampeding elephant, and shouts out to me that there doesn't appear to be a bat in the room. Well duh.... if I was Harry, I'd be making myself really really small and hiding behind something tight and close to the wall or floor. *sigh* So he says best thing would be for me to sleep in another room, opens up all the windows, switches off the light and closes the door.

If Harry didn't fly out the windows last night (he's nowhere to be found....again... this morning), I think I may have to call the fire dept instead. I'm sure they've got my name now at the police animal control dept as the crazy lady who called 2 nights in a row for a bat that refuses to fly for the policemen.

Well, if Harry is still at home, he has a high tolerance for noise and chemical cleaning fluids because I vacuumed the entire house this morning and then mopped down the floors. Then almost passed out myself breathing in all the Windex fumes when I cleaned all the windows ...boy, was there a thick layer of dust and pollen all over, but I now have sparkling windows I can see clearly out of.

May 28, 2012, 4:27pm Top

Caroline, love this ongoing installment in the continuing adventures of Harry the bat and I'm hoping he made it out the open windows during the night. Hope you can enjoy the rest of your day off.

May 28, 2012, 5:03pm Top

I will refrain from any further reality show comments....for now.

May 28, 2012, 5:18pm Top

>184 mckait: shhhhhhhhhhhh I'm making a fortune from the streaming nanny-cam version

Edited: May 28, 2012, 5:38pm Top

Oh Caro..i had a couple of very cute Brown Bats..."hanging around" under my porch roof, a couple of years ago....Trouble is/was...they were pretty close to the back door, and seemed to exhibit no signs of fear. Alas, I had to knock 'em silly with a broom ( a long-handled broom) one evening, before i knew they'd take off for their nightly whatever....Sad to say, they never returned...or, not so sad...as the little buggers tend to carry rabies

But they were so cute!!!


The only problem i've had with birds...when one would somehow get down the chimney into my Buck Stove....and flap around in the soot.....Mark put a cap on said chimney..no more sooty birds!!

May 28, 2012, 6:03pm Top

#183 : Kerry - Much as I am starting to admire the tenacity of Harry, I really do hope he's flown the coop, so to speak .. if only so I can sleep in my own bed tonight and because I don't want a bat in my house, rabid or not.

#184 : hmph, Kath!

#185 : So will you tell me where Harry is hiding, rdear or is your nanny-cam merely streaming me futilely throwing boxes at him?

#186 : There are a fair number of bats flying around my area at night, Jude but this is the first time one has come into the house. They are kind cute, but I'd find Harry more adorable from afar rather than up close and personal. I'm glad you no longer get sooty birds coming into the house, that must be a nightmare to cleanup after the sooty birds.

Need to take a nap now ...need to catch up on lost sleep from last night.

May 28, 2012, 6:10pm Top

Chuckle chuckle, sorry to laugh at the misfortune of others, but the bat story is funny!
So is RDs live streaming of it (how'd he do that slow-mo of you running in your chemise down the stairs!!??) ;)
Hope batty bat face leave you in peace now.

May 28, 2012, 6:11pm Top

>187 cameling: The "sooty birds" were enclosed...in my Buck Stove/wood burner......the only problem was "catching" it...and a large trash bag, strategically placed before i cracked open the glass door, was a hard-won Solution...I do not want some freakin' bird flying around my house...that's, like, Bad Luck!!!


May 28, 2012, 6:24pm Top

We have had bats in the house on three different occasions Caro. The first time was quite hilarious as my hubby and I donned baseball hats (which my kids referred to as bat hats forever after) and grabbed tennis rackets. We ended up using plastic sheets to cage them in, in a bay window and opening the side window until it flew away the next day.

I love your pics from Sydney.

May 28, 2012, 6:39pm Top

Whew, Caro! You may have had an uneventful flight - but your homecoming is tops in the ratings this week!
Hope the sweet little bat-nuisance is gone ;-)
When we had our addition put on, a bat got in and scared the bejeebers outta me! 'Course I scared him right back with my screaming and general mayhem. Fun stuff! (not)

So glad you had a little time off after your trip. And so nice to have you back with us. :)
I've been quite behind - sorry it took me so long to catch up.

Both cat books looks good! I never used to be a cat person long ago - but Woolly won me over completely.

Have a productive but easy week back at work in Boston. Waiting to hear about the homecoming pranks in store for you...


Edited: May 28, 2012, 7:48pm Top

The trick for catching bats is to

a) have a big shaggy dog --- a Puli works really well--- who can stand guard at whatever door you want to seal and who will scare the p.... out of the poor bat. Bat is not going to move because he knows he's toast if we ever let that dog loose...
b) have an imaginative 4 year old who wants to avoid going to bed because there's a "bat-bird' in my room going "Chee chee chee chee" and who will therefore ratchet up the parental angst level
c) have a husband and a neighbor who will bravely don long raincoats, gardening gloves and enter the room armed with butterfly nets.

Poor bat (who was quite happy just to hang upside down from the Cinderella curtains) didn't stand a chance.

Our biggest problem was getting someone to take custody of the beastie. This was a friday nite. We were able to put it into a jar, and the animal control people told us to put him in the freezer and bring it in on Monday for testing. So all weekend long we played showNtell for the neighborhood kids who wanted to see the bat in the freezer....

The blasted animal control people wouldn't take the little fellow since we'd "destroyed the tissue" by freezing him. Unfortunately this whole episode occurred in 1975 before I learned the proper use of big bad words and fingers!!!!

If it's any help, I just read an article last week (and can't remember where it was to find it for you) that stated that the chances of a bat being rabid are absolutely miniscule. That is evidently a common misconception.

I think I'd try an exterminator.......

May 28, 2012, 7:59pm Top

see? told ya...

But I'm with you, Caro.. I would have to have a no ill solution :(

I know, easy for me to say, but..you did say it first :)

May 28, 2012, 8:07pm Top

Living so many years in Texas, bats were practically items of religion. Their positive impact on insect populations (more bats, fewer skeeters) made both life and agriculture more pleasant.

Still...indoors? Nuh-uh.

May 28, 2012, 8:21pm Top

Caro, that bat would really unnerve me. Could it be that you have bats in the attic (if you have an attic, that is).

The only story I can offer in return is the famous chipmunk episode in my parents' house. They had glass fireplace doors, and one day my father saw fingerprints on them. He wasn't the tidiest of men, but he couldn't imagine how fingerprints got on the glass doors in the summer, so he went to investigate, only to find the smears were on the INSIDE of the glass. It gave him a real start. Evidently, a family of chipmunks had taken up residence in the chimney, and came down once in a while to look around. The smears weren't fingerprints - they were nose-prints!

The exterminator or animal control person (I don't know which he called) said it was quite common. Chipmunks are quite cute on the patio, but my folks didn't want them inside. Or smoked after the first fire of the season, either!

Good luck persuading Harry to go back to his own flock - or whatever one calls bats en masse.

May 28, 2012, 9:27pm Top

Wow Caro overnight your thread has gone supercharged - you would surely be leading the way if not for all your trips to here, there and everywhere.
Crocodile tasted a little like chicken as I recall - the problems of waiters and waitresses "getting" my appalling sense of humour is a recurring theme. There was a chinese malaysian waitress in Johor who in typical local chinglish looked at my plate and asked me "have you pi-nish" the anti-eunuch in me mouthed a response with a half-full plate that left me hungry and smiling and the waitress completely non-plussed. Or there is the waitress Hajar surprised to learn that I knew her cousin Kurang. (non bahasa speakers will of course not get that one).
Animals at home always a problem. We had a 25 ft python reaering its head through the storm drain in JB - the BOMBA (fire services) replied when we called for emergency help that if we caught it they would be along in a jiffy to collect it.

May 28, 2012, 10:25pm Top

>195 ffortsa: We have chipmunks outside - so maybe I don't want a fireplace afterall.
Ron will be glad to hear that after all my nagging hearty suggesting to have one built :)

May 28, 2012, 10:32pm Top

>197 -Cee-: A Fireplace is not a BAD thing...just put a Cap on your chimney...they're fairly cheap at any good Hardware Store...

May 28, 2012, 11:17pm Top

156: People pay cash money for the scrota of kangaroos?

Edited: May 29, 2012, 10:09am Top

I really love having a cat in the house. I would not like having a bat in the house.

Dr. Seuss, anyone?

May 29, 2012, 10:28am Top

Caro, catching up on your thread is so much fun. The trip pictures are wonderful, but *holy Batman* that is a strange welcoming committee of one you have. I would not be opening windows at night...seems to me that Harry would be bringing 'home' his friends to 'hang' with. It's a bad sign that your guest has a name. We had a bat in the house a few years ago. My husband easily caught him with a fishing net and released him. Best of luck to you and your new pet! I'll stay tuned for more bat adventures...

May 29, 2012, 3:32pm Top

>199 magicians_nephew: I know! Couldn't *give* me one as a present!

May 29, 2012, 5:34pm Top

>200 EBT1002:
cat and bat in house
bat in cat in house
cat out of house
cat crap out bat out of house

May 29, 2012, 9:21pm Top

202: Perhaps they use them as tobacco pouches?

May 29, 2012, 9:30pm Top

Wishing you a happy Harry free night.

May 29, 2012, 10:02pm Top

#188 : No worries, Megan ... you should see some of the (very unhelpful) comments I've been getting from my brother and some friends over this whole bat situation. My brother went so far as to say Harry's drawn to my house because he recognizes a soulmate as I drive them all batty.

RD's webcams have been whizzed on by Harry during his fly-bys and therefore no successful streaming of me running around the house in my chemise have been broadcasted. nyah nyah

#189 : Jude - it's a good thing Kitteh wasn't around at the time... just think of the potential chaos, leaping fur and flying feathers all over the place... I'd put bets that Kitteh wins that battle ;-)

Are wild birds in the house bad luck? You're the second person I know who's mentioned this. My friend's grandmother had quite a few birds in the house (canaries, parakeets and parrots) in a large aviary on their grounds, but would go nuts when sparrows or pigeons flew into the house. It was pretty amazing to see this normally calm and quiet-spoken pint-sized woman suddenly turn into a shrieking virago, leaping to her feet, grabbing up a hockey stick, broom or any long handled object nearby and chasing the poor confused bird around and finally out the house.

#190 : Bat hat, check. Tennis racket, check. Plastic sheet ....err... ahh...that's what I didn't have and should have used, a plastic sheet. Thanks for the tip, Bonnie. I shall be better prepared next time I need to catch Harry or one of his pals.

May 29, 2012, 10:13pm Top

>204 magicians_nephew: *urp*

scuse me


May 29, 2012, 10:30pm Top

#191 : Cee, no need to apologize for being away from my thread. Goodness, there are so many interesting threads in this group alone and everyone's so busy with RL that I'm surprised to even get as many posts as I do sometimes. I love seeing you whenever you have time to pop in for a visit.

I'm starting to enjoy all the other bat stories I'm getting. It's good to know others have experienced a winged visit too.

Cats have a way of quietly sneaking into the hearts of even the most hardened cat-hater if they're given an opportunity to spend some time with us... *pst, RD, be warned ... let a cat past your threshold and you could soon be the next puuurfect feline fan*

So far, no major pranks ..but this time I took the precaution of not letting them know I was coming into the office today. On my calendar in my office, I'd actually marked today as a travel day, so when I walked around, there were a few people who were surprised to see me. Ha! I can be sneaky too!

#192 : LOL .. love your bat story, Tina. You don't happen to have pictures of the bat-catchers in their glorious attire, do you? So what did you do with the frozen bat after animal control wouldn't accept it? I'm surprised they wouldn't take it off you ... isn't that what they're for? to catch and dispose of pests?

One of my coworkers told me when she had a bat in her house, her husband wore 2 pairs of pants, long socks over the pant legs, hiking boots, a sweatshirt, gloves and .......wait for it, wait for it ........ their son's Darth Vader helmut. And he carried a baseball bat and after destroying some vases, dented furniture and tore a hole in a curtain, he managed to fatally whack the bat with said wooden bat.

May 29, 2012, 10:46pm Top

#193 : Kath, I did some reading last night, mainly about symptoms of rabies in humans (just in case) and while the pages I read mentioned raccoons and other wild animals as being known to carry rabies, there was scarcely a mention of bats.

By the way, bats are supposed to be fortune carriers according to ancient Chinese. There are bats on one of their coins, even today, and over doors or on roofs of old buildings in China. Hopefully Harry was visiting to dispense some fortunity here.

#194 : Yup, I'm with you ricardo ... bats outside eating all the insects and pesky mosquitoes - good. bats inside eating insects and the occasional mosquito - no thanks.

#195 : LOL .. nose prints ... love it, Judy! I can just see it too ... curious chipmunks scampering down the chimney and peering through the glass screen into your house. They are little cuties, aren't there. It was very sad when I saw one flattened on the street in front of my house the other morning ... possibly by the taxi driving me home. :-(

May 29, 2012, 10:47pm Top

Wish I'd had pictures of the bat chasers, but remember this was 1975 and we weren't into instant pics back then. Besides I was too busy trying to control the dog and the kid. My next-door neighbor (wife of the other bat chaser) was too busy laughing her ass off to be much help with anything. We ended up throwing the frozen carcass (enclosed in the jar) into the garbage.....

And we did call an exterminator to be sure we didn't have any more. We've had chipmunks here in Maine (they mange to sneak through the seam on the screen door, but they only have to come into sight of our two 15 pound cats and they are begging to return to the outdoors.

Sure hope batty leaves soon.

May 29, 2012, 11:14pm Top

#196 : Paul, I wish I had thought to grab my camera (which was on the kitchen table since I'd only just unpacked my suitcase on Saturday night) to take a photo of Harry. If he comes back, my camera is at the ready.

Haha.. you're such a card, Paul .. i can just see wait staff left confused by your puns and jokes.

Everyone has a funny pest-in-the-home story. I love BOMBA's response to your snake problem. It's similar to the patrolman who came the other night saying he'd come in just to take a look at the bat but didn't 'do' bats. So how did you end up catching the python? I remember in the mid-90s, reading about a man who fell asleep under a tree in a palm plantation and his family found him the next month, with his head and shoulders crushed and in the process of being swallowed by a large python.

#197 : Once you start using your fireplace though, wouldn't the chipmunks know to keep away from it or risk a crisp experience, Cee?

#198 : Ta da... Jude to the rescue with great advice. Let's start a petition for Cee's fireplace.

#199 : Oh yes they do, Jim. I'll buy you one when I'm next in Australia. They are proudly stamped with the Australian emblem, and packaging boldly proclaims the content to be an authentic kangaroo's ball sack. I think they're between $8 - $14 depending on size and quality of skin.

#200 : Ellen, but what if the bat wore a hat.... and smiled?

May 29, 2012, 11:25pm Top

#201 : Donna, that was my initial fear the first night, that if I left the windows open, wouldn't Harry be inviting his friends and family into the house for a house party. But it doesn't seem to have happened and if anything, perhaps his friends have lured him out to play instead. I am, however, keeping my screens firmly closed so only spiders and small bugs are able to venture in uninvited.

#202 : *heh heh .....innocent smirk* Is that a challenge, rdear? Think of it this way ... you could, perhaps use it during the winter as a warming jacket for your little buddies. :-)

#203 : LOL ... glad Harry's proving to be a poetic muse, Megan.

#204 : Some people use them as coin pouches, Jim. It comes with a little leather tie at the ...er....neck of the pouch so you can pull it closed.

#205 : Thanks, Kath. I hope Harry's found someplace to hang dry tonight .. it's raining outside.

#210 : The chipmunks in my yard are burrowing into some parts of our stone walls, Tina. I sometimes put fruit out on the top stone slabs in the middle of our yard, and I can hear them chattering, especially when I'm putting out cut ripe peaches, bananas and strawberries. They've gotten used to me, and will come out to snatch pieces of fruit before I'm even back up on my deck.

May 30, 2012, 6:55am Top

Loving Harry, Caro! Until a couple of years ago I'd never seen a real live in person bat, but my friend who literally has bats in her attic invited me over to a dusk sighting. So weird to see them come pouring out and then scoot off into the night.

You have chipmunks - how cute. I love chipmunks. My grandmother had a little gang (family?) that lived around the old well in her yard and when I got a look at them frolicking on top of the wooden cover, I almost died of a cuteness overload.

Re: that kangaroo coin purse I'm not sure I could pull that puppy out of my purse in the grocery store. A lot of the cashiers are older ladies and kind of chatty and they are bound to notice it. Can't imagine what I would say it was...

May 30, 2012, 8:53am Top

Back many decades ago my grandmother was visiting. The doorbell rang. She went to the front door. Nobody was there. Several minutes later. The doorbell rang again. She went to the front door. Nobody. She went to the back door. Nobody. Odd. Probably kids. Several minutes later. The door bell rang again. Front door, back door. Nobody. This went on for about an hour.

Finally, she "caught" the culprit. A squirrel was leaning against the bell while looking in the door window to check her out in the kitchen.

May 30, 2012, 8:06pm Top

214> That may be the best story yet! (although one might inquire as to why the squirrel was peeping.....)

May 30, 2012, 11:15pm Top

#213 : Charlotte, the chipmunks are cute little critters ...but I wanted to smack their little paws when I caught them stealing bites out of the fruit and vegetables I had lovingly planted and looked after in my garden a couple of years ago.

On the roo coin purse, it's not immediately recognizable for what it is .. it really just looks like a light brown leather pouch. The next time I'm in Australia I'll take a photo of one and post it on my thread.

#214 : What a super story, Morphy! LOL .... so why was the squirrel checking your grandmother out?

#215 : My thoughts exactly, Ellen.

Match Day by Brian Eule was a really interesting book. It traces the lives of 3 women from the time they're medical students about to be 'matched' by a computer algorithm to residency programs at hospitals around the country. The 3 women are different, all in relationships, one partner being a medical student as well, and within the year of their internship, we follow them through their experiences with facing death, making mistakes, struggling to maintain their relationships, and also learning how to heal and provide comfort to their patients.

The book brings us behind the professional facade these doctors need to maintain and allows us to see them as the dedicated, strong and at times scared and fragile people they are.
3.8 stars

May 31, 2012, 7:34am Top

Nice review of Match Day, Caroline. There have been many personal accountfs written about medical school and internship, but this book was unique in that it was written by the non-physician spouse of a fourth year medical student and intern, rather than the doctor going through training. Medical training is burdensome and stressful to most marriages, and the author did a nice job of portraying their relationship, and those of the other two couples.

Edited: May 31, 2012, 7:39am Top

I love your story Morphy :)

I miss my chipmunks. I think the snakes have driven them off.
But I stopped growing vegies a few years ago, so maybe they have moved
to greener pastures?

Roo coin purse? yikes!

eta.. Match Day sounds really good! Thumbed.

( And the Oracle is convince that I will love it.. uh oh! LOL)

May 31, 2012, 2:00pm Top

>215 EBT1002: & 216 Well, she was nuts...


Jun 1, 2012, 11:26pm Top

#217 : Thanks, Darryl. That's what I liked about the book, that the author brought how the internship affected the spouses and partners of the residents. I'm very glad that interns are no longer made to put in 36 hours with no sleep. Did you miss out on that, or were the rules not changed yet when you were doing your residency? Some of my friends who are doctors regaled us with horror stories of working without sleep.

#218 : You'll like this one, Kath.

My thyme, lavender and rosemary are all doing really well. I'm about to plant some mint once the rain is over. I've definitely thwarted the wild furry beasts and they're instead enjoying the smorgasbord provided by my neighbor's new fruit and vegetable efforts.

#219 : LOL. I had a vision of a Mr Peanut waltzing across the kitchen floor, Morphy.

Jun 1, 2012, 11:27pm Top

Long Island Noir by Kaylie Jones is an ER book I received that I didn't remember requesting. It turned out to be quite a gem.
This is a wonderful collection of short noir stories set in suburbs of Long Island, New York by different authors centered around family values, love, reaching for the American Dream, disappointments and personal tragedies.

Each author has his and her own voice, lending a freshness to each story told.
4 stars

Jun 2, 2012, 12:55am Top

So, someone may have mentioned this already, and I just missed it, but the police man who told you that bats don't have eyes is out of his mind. Totally. Bats have eyes. I've seen my share of bats. Large, small, medium, vampire and not, dead and alive. They all had eyes. Most definitely. I like bats. They eat mosquitoes. I probably wouldn't like one in my house, but I've been in an ongoing "discussion" with my husband for about 10 years regarding building a bat house in the back yard. He says NO. I say yes. We're at an impasse.

Jun 2, 2012, 6:57am Top

I hope you're right.. I added it. :PPPP

I was sneaking around @ Amazon, trying to talk myself out of buying
American Grown: The Story of the White House Kitchen Garden and Gardens Across America..
when they both jumped into my cart and bought themselves. Really, that's what happened.

Jun 2, 2012, 9:46am Top

>220 cameling: I'm very glad that interns are no longer made to put in 36 hours with no sleep. Did you miss out on that, or were the rules not changed yet when you were doing your residency? Some of my friends who are doctors regaled us with horror stories of working without sleep.

It was very uncommon for me and my fellow interns to work for a full 36 consecutive hours, e.g. Monday 8 am to Tuesday 8 pm, as we were almost always able to leave by no later than 4-5 pm on our post-call days (32-33 hours). However, I'd say that about half of the time I did not sleep at all during my call shifts, either because I spent the night running around like a crazed chipmunk admitting patients and tending to sick ones, or because the pager of the intern I shared a call room went off all night long or at times I was trying to sleep (as you couldn't immediately tell if it was my pager or not), or because I was on an adrenaline high or, conversely, was too tired to fall asleep (if that makes sense). We often had to answer calls from nurses and give intelligent answers within a few seconds after waking up from sleep, or admit patients when we were completely sleep deprived. On extremely busy nights most of us felt that it was better to stay up all night, as it was more painful to go to sleep and be awakened by a phone call or Code Blue overhead message 15-20 minutes later.

The interns and residents who work with us don't work more than 14 consecutive hours, with the longest shifts being the overnight calls, from 5 pm to 7 am.

The residency programs closely and strictly monitor the hours that interns and upper level residents work, by making them enter their shifts in log books. This is required by ACGME (the American Council on Graduate Medical Education), which is the organization that oversees all of the residency and fellowship programs in the US. Those programs whose residents and fellows routinely exceed their residency hours can be put on probation and penalized, by a reduction in the number of residents or, in the most egregious cases, the termination of the program altogether.

Physicians who trained before I did often had to take call more often that we did. I and most of my former medical school classmates were typically on call Q4, meaning every four days, whereas Q3 call was more common before the 1990s. Up until the 1970s Q2 call (every 2 days) was common, so residents would be on call, for example, from Monday morning to Tuesday afternoon, and then go back on call on Wednesday. Those residents had to do a lot more than we did, as they were the ones who had to start peripheral IV lines when they went bad, a common problem in young pediatric inpatients, instead of the nurses or a dedicated IV team, which my hospital and the one I trained at have.

Residency was a painful and sometimes crushing experience, one I wouldn't ever want to repeat (as some of the foreign medical graduates have to do), but it was absolutely essential for me to become a competent physician. Many of us older docs are concerned that the current structure of residency training and the focus on hours worked will mean that future generations of physicians are not as well trained and not as dedicated to the care of their patients. The ACGME is recognizing this, and there is a possibility that the length of residency for some specialties such as pediatrics may be extended by a year, to ensure that the residents are adequately trained. I'd much rather suck it up, work 30-36 hour shifts and complete my training in 3 years, rather than have easier work days but have to spend 4 years in training.

Jun 2, 2012, 11:56am Top

#222 : Jenn, I vote for the bat house too! I went and looked up different bat pictures on the internet after the policeman told me they didn't have eyes (which did creep me out) and was relieved and pleased to note that he was wrong and that they did, indeed, have eyes, they just don't see to well with them and rely on their echo location skills to move around and locate their food.

I wish I could train Harry to come in for a couple of hours an evening just to eat the bugs in the house and then leave. But until he can be trained this way, I'm afraid I've got to harden my heart and try not to let him in again. It's raining hard today, and I'm wondering where Harry is and if he's managing to keep dry.

Is it weird that I still expect to see Harry flying in the house at night ...and a part of me wishes he will?

Jun 2, 2012, 12:13pm Top

#223 : Kath, it's amazing how sneaky some of these books can be .. just when you turn your back for a second, they leap right into your shopping cart. ;-)

My brother send me an Amazon gift card ... just because...... I'm wondering what favor he wants in the next day or so.... or what tale he's snitched to my mom about me that he's now feeling guilty about.

#224 : it was better to stay up all night, as it was more painful to go to sleep and be awakened by a phone call or Code Blue overhead message 15-20 minutes later.
Darryl - That's what one of my friends said too. He said it would take him a few minutes to go to fall into a deep sleep and that it was disorientating to be violently woken up (he slept with his pager next to his ear) a few minutes later and expected to perform as if he'd had a solid 8 hours sleep.

One of my friends was so discombobulated he sleepily stumbled into the wrong room and removed the stitches from a patient's thumb which had only been attached by someone else that very afternoon, instead of SEWING up a patient in a different room who had come in with a huge gash in his leg when he had an accident with a rebar.

In Match Day I read that the reason why they had the interns work such long hours was so that they could be exposed to as many different medical situations as possible and be more experienced at the end of their residency. It was horror stories of the long residency hours that had me fleeing away from medical college and into law instead. At least I could safely fall asleep over my books and only need to race against time when I woke and realized I only had a couple of hours to submit my assignment before the box was locked.

Were there residents in your group who decided to leave the program altogether because they couldn't cope with the pressure of working under such tough conditions?

Edited: Jun 2, 2012, 12:28pm Top

A college friend is visiting the US and NYC for the first time. I haven't seen her in well over 7 years so I've decided to take the train down from Boston to NYC tomorrow morning, have lunch with her and introduce her to the Strand (what kind of a friend would I be if I didn't bring her to the most important store in the city?!!) and then pop over to Russ & Daughters to resupply myself with smoked fish and whitefish salad before I catch the evening train back up to Boston.

I have work I was originally planning to do on Sunday but I will have to find time today to get started on it. I'm going to try and squash my conscience not to bring my laptop with me and work on it on the train because I don't want to schlep a heavy laptop all over the city on Sunday. But if she squeaks too loudly I may have no choice.

Overheard at the post office this morning ....

Frazzled looking dad : Tommy, stop running in the post office
Dad : Tommy, get up off the floor
Dad : Tommy, leave those envelops alone
Dad : Tommy, I won't take you out with me again if you don't stop misbehaving
4 year old Tommy (at least he looked about 4) : But Dad, Mom told me to take you outside because you gave her a headache!

Jun 2, 2012, 12:29pm Top

have fun tomorrow! 7 years is too long not to see friends, xo

Edited: Jun 2, 2012, 1:00pm Top

>226 cameling: The nurses who called us in the middle of the night could tell when we had just been awakened, and when our responses to their questions made no sense at all (which happened to all of us on many occasions, particularly early in our intern year). They would ask us if we really wanted them to give a baby a dose of Tylenol that was more appropriate for an elephant, etc. If our response was still inappropriate, they would call the upper level resident to get a better answer.

As a result of having to wake up in the middle of the night on a regular basis, many former residents, including myself, have become chronically poor sleepers, and I have a hard time going back to sleep after I've been awakened in the middle of the night. I'll often have bad or unsettling dreams about patients or patient scenarios, as well. This morning I dreamt that one of my patients was diagnosed with a brain tumor, and was at risk for sudden deterioration from a seizure or brain hernation; however, the neurologist and I couldn't find him, and we were running through very creepy, dark and seemingly endless hospital corridors to find the kid and his parents. I'm sure this dream came about because there was a patient in the ED last night when I was on call whose CT scan showed that he had a brain tumor (I didn't admit him, though), and the last patient I saw was out of her ED room with her father for over an hour before the nurse practitioner and I could find them.

I wonder why the patient with the recently placed stitches let the second resident remove them?

In Match Day I read that the reason why they had the interns work such long hours was so that they could be exposed to as many different medical situations as possible and be more experienced at the end of their residency.

That is certainly one of the goals and benefits of residency, and in working such long hours. Conversely, the residents nowadays don't often have as much opportunity to see the progression of an illness, and to see the differences between one presentation of a particular illness, such as pneumonia, and other ones. You can read about pneumonia, meningitis, etc. until your head is overflowing with information, but if you can't apply that information to the care of the patient, it doesn't matter very much. You learn about a disease by taking care of dozens and hundreds of patients with that condition, and the more experience you have with an illness, the more likely you are to recognize when things aren't going as expected, and the more likely you are to make a positive intervention earlier, rather than waiting until the patient deteriorates.

Were there residents in your group who decided to leave the program altogether because they couldn't cope with the pressure of working under such tough conditions?

I was initially going to say no, but I remembered that one of the interns in my class did leave the program after that year, to pursue a residency in psychiatry. She was extremely stressed during that year, so much so that her hair fell out in clumps, which left her mostly bald.

>227 cameling: Mom told me to take you outside because you gave her a headache!

That's hilarious! Kids are the best comedians.

Jun 2, 2012, 1:06pm Top

>221 cameling: I really like Akashic's NOIR series..haven't read Long Island Noir...but enjoyed a few of the offerings in Boston Noir, before someone nicked my copy......


Jun 2, 2012, 5:01pm Top

Have fun in NYC with your friend and your restocking :)
Let us know what books jump into your bag at the Strand!

Jun 2, 2012, 5:54pm Top

Hi Bat Girl! How are you? I hope you are enjoying your weekend. Cute Post Office story!

Jun 2, 2012, 6:04pm Top

#228 : Richard- I am so looking forward to seeing her tomorrow. We used to get up all sorts of shenanigans when we were in London. Our ritual was to drive down to Dover the day after exams and take the ferry over to Ostend, hop on a bus and spend the weekend partying in Brussels. Spoke with her on the phone a few minutes ago and she's already exploring bars around Central Park. I'm meeting her for lunch tomorrow at La Mar .. yumm.... yes, i'm using her as an excuse to go back for their amazing cerviche!

#229 : Darryl, the patient with the just-stitched thumb thought he was getting extra care. ;-) And when a nurse rushed in and gasped when she saw him, my friend realized the stitches weren't ready to be taken out, it was too late, the thumb was about to fall off again. So they prepared a small cast and had the thumb casted cos he couldn't sew through the holey skin.

Wow, not only are you stressed at work sometimes but your dreams are horrifically stressful too. I think I'd be really exhausted and stressed after a dream like the one you had last night. Is it rare for you to get dreamless totally restful sleep?

I've often wondered if it would make sense for doctors (maybe during their last year of residency) to spend it abroad in less developed countries where some of the diseases aren't quite as easily treated as they are here, perhaps for less easy access to sophisticated and expensive drugs or technology, or even because of the conditions in that country.
The exchange could benefit the other hospital because these young doctors could bring with them the latest treatments and information. Would this work, i wonder? Or perhaps it's already part of some programs?

Psychiatry is, I think, for really strong individuals who can listen to all those troubled individuals without succumbing to depression themselves. It must take a lot not to be overwhelmed by all their patients' issues. I hope your ex-intern-mate liked psychiatry better than she did the residency program and her hair has grown back so she's no longer bald.

Jun 2, 2012, 6:12pm Top

#230 : Jude - and you let the thief get away with it?!! Sharpen Kitteh's claws and sic her onto their sticky fingered book thief!

I haven't read any of the Akashic NOIR series but after having read Long Island Noir, i've since added New Jersey Noir and Boston Noir to my obese wish list. I love Dennis Lehane so if he's part of the group of writers in Boston Noir, I have no doubt it's going to be a good collection.

#231 : Kath - I'm hoping if I bring just a small backpack, not too many of them will clamor to come home with me. I've doing really well on my read more buy less challenge.

#232 : Hi Marky-Mark. So far the weekend is shaping up very nicely despite all this rain. The boy was so adorable and sincere .. the whole post office just erupted in laughter, including the blushing sheepish dad.

Jun 2, 2012, 7:56pm Top

Have a great time tomorrow and don't forget to post what books you buy at the Strand! ;)

Edited: Jun 2, 2012, 9:01pm Top

>233 cameling: Yep, I can see how the Case of the Mangled Thumb could have happened. When I do a medical procedure, such as placing or removing sutures or performing a lumbar puncture, I focus intensely on the task at hand, which is especially difficult when it's being performed on a wiggly infant or toddler. I imagine that this sleepy resident didn't talk with the nurse or the patient, saw the thumb with the sutures, and single mindedly thought that they needed to be removed.

Is it rare for you to get dreamless totally restful sleep?

Unless I'm exhausted or not working, I often don't sleep well at home. I'm much more likely to sleep well when I've been off from work for a few days, or if I'm away from home entirely. I sleep best in my old room at my parents' house, and at my friends' house in Madison.

I've often wondered if it would make sense for doctors (maybe during their last year of residency) to spend it abroad in less developed countries where some of the diseases aren't quite as easily treated as they are here

It probably would. However, the hospitals that utilize residents rely heavily on them to provide coverage for inpatients. Even when I wasn't on an inpatient rotation (e.g., when I spent a month on a subspecialty service, such as rheumatology or immunology), I still had to be on hospital call every fourth night. Whenever a resident was out of commission for awhile, due to illness or pregnancy, the other residents had to pick up the slack and work extra shifts, which made our lives that much more miserable.

Several colleagues of mine have gone abroad to developing countries, to care for patients alongside the medical staff there. One of our physician assistants just came back from Botswana last month, and one of my partners was in Liberia the month before that. One of our surgeons will be going to an African country later this year, and another of my partners used to travel there quite often, when she split her time between working for us and working for the CDC, which is based in Atlanta adjacent to Emory's campus. And, our administrative assistant, who is second generation Haitian-American, has gone there on three occasions since the earthquake, to help medical staff communicate with patients, as she speaks Creole and English fluently. We also used her on several occasions, as we took care of a dozen or so patients who were severely injured in the earthquake in or near Port au Prince.

Psychiatry is, I think, for really strong individuals who can listen to all those troubled individuals without succumbing to depression themselves. It must take a lot not to be overwhelmed by all their patients' issues. I hope your ex-intern-mate liked psychiatry better than she did the residency program and her hair has grown back so she's no longer bald.

I enjoyed my psychiatry rotation, the first one I had as a third year medical student, when we switched from the classroom to the hospitals and clinics. I'll never forget my first patient at Pitt's psychiatric hospital, an older African American woman who was suffering from dementia and hallucinations. I'll also never forget one other patient there, a recent college graduate who began to have problems toward the end of his senior year, and was ultimately diagnosed with schizophrenia. He was the first patient that deeply touched me, as it was tragic to see a bright young man with a promising future felled by that awful illness. I could easily see how someone could become depressed and occasionally frustrated by caring for people with severe mental illness, and I have a great deal of respect for the profession.

The ex-intern I worked with completed her psychiatry training elsewhere, so I didn't hear from or see her again after our first year of residency. She was a very sensitive and caring person, so I hope she has done well. It was quite disturbing to see her lose her hair, and I won't forget one call night when she took off the scarf she ended up wearing, and removed a large amount of hair from her scalp.

My medical school class has already lost two members, at least one and probably both to suicide. I admired and respected them greatly. Medicine is a very stressful career, and it can become overwhelming for some people.

Jun 2, 2012, 9:51pm Top

Great discussion here about medical practitioning from Darryl and the amazing stresses and strains that accompany it. Darryl would get my vote for LT hero of the year if there was such an award - saving lives while reading only the best - what a guy - and he copes with it all with his sense of humour still very much intact.

Enjoy your day in NYC and I trust your old friend relaises that the trip to the Strand is only partly her treat!

Btw the giant python in our storm drain left of his own accord and was finally brought to book in a different part of the area we were living.

Jun 2, 2012, 9:57pm Top

Have fun tomorrow Caro. Another trip to the Strand...nice. Hope the haul is a terrific one but then why wouldn't it be?

Jun 2, 2012, 10:09pm Top

The Strand? The Strand? Wish we could join you. Have fun!

Jun 2, 2012, 10:26pm Top

I used to work with people who have a mental health diagnosis, (around their employment needs), it has made me feel very grateful to be mentally healthy. What a struggle it can be.

Jun 3, 2012, 8:35am Top

Really, Caroline ?

Love that name for your show...

Jun 4, 2012, 2:38am Top

Great discussion -- just skimming through.

I hope you had a fun day in the city.

Jun 4, 2012, 7:31am Top

So, did you have a great time?
Did you buy so many books that it exhausted you carrying them home?
Did you miss us? We missed you..

Edited: Jun 4, 2012, 7:51pm Top

#235 : Thanks Chelle, I had a fabulous time. And yes, I did stop in at the Strand .. and forgot the time so I was late and missed my train and had to take the next one.

#236 : I sleep best in my old room at my parents' house, and at my friends' house in Madison.
Darryl - Did you grow up in your parents' current house? It must be that you feel totally relaxed while you are with them that you enjoy such a deep sleep. I sleep pretty well wherever I am, but I've noticed that when I'm at my mom's house (which is the house I grew up in), I not only fall into a deeper sleep, (the burglar alarm went off a few years ago, triggered when a gekko walked across the sensor, and I didn't hear a thing) I don't sleep for more than 4 and a half hours and wake fully rested. It's also the only place where I can fall asleep within 10 mins without needing music or the tv on.

It seems unfair that other residents have to take on extra shifts to pick up the slack if a resident is sick or pregnant. Why can't the doctors pull in extra hours instead of overloading the poor residents?
That brings me to another thought ... is there a shortage of doctors in our hospitals? You know how schools have access to temp teachers? Is there a database of 'freelance' doctors who would be able to step in to cover pregnancy/maternity leave or illness situations?

btw, I hope you don't mind all these questions and (probably unhelpful) suggestions from me. haha

And I agree with Paul ... you're our Hero, Darryl ... and we're awarding you with a trophy for LT Hero of the Year!

Jun 4, 2012, 7:54pm Top

I heard a rumor that you had been kidnapped by Aliens.
Glad it was false.

Jun 4, 2012, 8:00pm Top

#237 : Paul, i don't know if it was the talk about the python in your house that caused me to dream about a snake that night. I had a dream that I was with some friends walking down the street when I noticed a guy walking towards us...very hunky ....and with a snake wound around one of his feet. When I asked if he knew he had a snake on his foot, he calmly said yes, he wound it around his foot because he had lost his shoe and didn't want his foot cut by glass. Oddly enough, in my dream, that seemed like a perfectly rational explanation

#238 : Hi Bonnie .. the challenge with the Strand is that there are just too many books weeping to be adopted and one has to steel one's heart to their cries or bring a truck to carry all the books home while one's plastic credit card melts with heated use.

#239 : Maybe one day, Joe?

#240 : Megan, my SIL works with special needs teenagers and young adults and it is sad how many of them are sidelined by society because of their mental challenges. We used to have a guy who was a little mentally challenged for regular stuff, but who could remember baseball statistics like a computer. He was the sweetest guy and he worked in our mailroom. Sadly, he had to move away to live with his uncle in a different state when his mother passed away because he wasn't able to live on his own.

Jun 4, 2012, 8:28pm Top

#241 : Kath!

#242 : Ellen, I had a good time, thank you. It's always fun being in NYC for a spell.

#243 : OK, since you all are interested and you said you missed me, I'll share, Kath.

Had a great time in Manhattan yesterday. Met my friend, her cousin and another friend for lunch at a cute little cafe on Lexington. It's great that despite not having seen her in years, we just plopped back into the ease we had with each other, jokes and good conversation flowed. Ok, the great bloody marys help too. ;-)

I took them to Russ & Daughters where I stocked up on some peppered smoked mackerel, pastrami smoked salmon, oak smoked salmon, whitefish & smoked salmon salad, and wasabi caviar. Yumm! Breakfast this morning with an Everything bagel was simply delish!

Then it was on to the Strand where I forgot the time, and kinda lost my friends for a while ... good thing for cellphones! I at least only had 1 basket of books ... my friend staggered to the check out with 2 full baskets (Hooray for Meena!). She convinced her cousin and friend to help her carry books home in their suitcases.

I didn't do too badly on my Strand splurge mainly because I had the foresight to only bring 1 tote with me. :-)

The Famished Road - Ben Okri
Last Orders - Graham Swift
Hotel du Lac - Anita Brookner
Scenes from Village Life - Amos Oz
Travels in the Scriptorium - Paul Auster

I did manage to miss my train home, but managed to change my ticket for the next train and got home just before midnight.

Edited: Jun 4, 2012, 8:41pm Top

Picket Line by Breena Wiederhoeft is a good graphic novel about a teen who moves out to California to find where she belongs in life, joins a lawn mowing company, gets involved in environmentalists looking to protect the forest around Mt Boring, and has to decide where she stands and if she will stand for what she believes in.
3.8 stars

Not sure what's up ..but the touchstone here is working, but I can't add this book to my LT booklist. It doesn't come up in the list of books when I try to add book.

Edited: Jun 4, 2012, 8:49pm Top

Hi Caro- I'm glad you had a nice time in Manhattan! And nice self-control with the book buying. Picket Line sounds good. I need to add more GNS to my WL. I'm running out of ideas. I am loving "Conference of the Birds" by Peter Sis.

Jun 4, 2012, 8:53pm Top

Hi Caro!
Sounds like you did some controlled damage in NYC - they really should roll out a red carpet for you!
Great haul... how do you remember what you have and what you want? I need to make a list of my WL again.

Jun 4, 2012, 8:53pm Top

*too jealous of latest trip to comment*

Edited: Jun 5, 2012, 5:50am Top

>244 cameling: Darryl - Did you grow up in your parents' current house?

Yes, for my late teens and mid to late twenties. They live in a quiet suburban neighborhood, and it will always be home for me. I love sleeping at my friends' house in Madison, especially in wintertime (when it's often in the single digits or below zero Fahrenheit at night), as they turn down the heat to 65 degrees and I burrow under several layers of covers with only my forehead and nose exposed, to stay warm.

It seems unfair that other residents have to take on extra shifts to pick up the slack if a resident is sick or pregnant. Why can't the doctors pull in extra hours instead of overloading the poor residents?

I certainly wouldn't call the current generation of residents overloaded, at least not in pediatrics. In a typical Monday-Friday work week I would put in considerably more hours that an intern or upper level resident, who almost always leave earlier than I do. I generally try to get them out of the hospital by 5 pm, and I'll typically stay an hour or more after that, to check their progress notes and orders, and to visit patients a second time to ensure that they understand the plan of care. When I was in residency, the attendings (supervising physicians, like myself now) were the one that left at 3-4 pm, and the residents stayed later to finish their work.

That brings me to another thought ... is there a shortage of doctors in our hospitals? You know how schools have access to temp teachers? Is there a database of 'freelance' doctors who would be able to step in to cover pregnancy/maternity leave or illness situations?

Hmm. I'm not sure about other hospital systems, but my group has been short staffed for part of the spring, due to an injury that one of my partners suffered. We've also been far busier than usual, with more patients this spring than in any other year, so each of us is seeing more patients and/or working more shifts.

Aw, thanks for the hero honor! I don't think I deserve that title, but I'll take it if I can use it to get more books.

Jun 4, 2012, 11:44pm Top

*too jealous of Darryl's hero-status to comment*

Jun 5, 2012, 6:30am Top

Veterinarians do... have sort of floating vets to pick up slack. ( I know there is a difference .. )
I expect that what with all of the laws and with insurance issues etc, it isn't as simple for people doctors.

Count your blessing Darryl.. those doctors on Grey's Anatomy never go hom ! ( jk)

Jun 5, 2012, 6:26pm Top

Caro - Not sure how I would interpret your dreams - I will seek advice on this from SWMBO who believes herself an expert in this regard. Was it the Bloody Marys that caused you to miss the train back?

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