"Sherlock" Discussion (WARNING: Here be spoilers)
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Soooooooo... what did ya'll think of the little stunt Sherlock pulled? :) Any theories, thoughts or ideas?
Having read all the Sherlock stories, I pretty much already knew the ending. I was glad that it was a less annoying season-ender than last year! I'm looking forward to the DVD arriving this week so I can rewatch them all. I find most everything Steven Moffat does requires rewatching multiple times to get all the nuances.
As a side note, I happened to see the news about Robin Gibb dying during Moriarty's whole Staying Alive thing. It was weird.
Bib, I had read news of Robin Gibb's death seconds before the show started, so not quite as eerily timed as you, but definitely weird!
I've never read any of the Sherlock stories (shameful, I know!!), but I wasn't surprised by the ending. My husband and I went to bed debating whether that was a good place to end the show or not, as there was enough of a note of finality about it while also leaving viewers satisfied. However, I'm hoping that the rumor of a third season is true!
Does anyone know if it is, in fact, confirmed for season 3?
Oh, definitely! Season 3 has been confirmed (thank God!) and it will come out in 2013. I am so happy there will be a third - I am dying to know if my theory about Sherlock's "death" is correct.
There's so much discussion around the internet about this, Moffat commented something along the lines of that he's seen thousands of theories but none of them are exactly right. Will be fascinating to see the first episode of the next series.
We are pretty sure Molly had something to do with the faked death. She wasn't on Moriarty's watch list. But for the life of me, I can't figure out how he did it.
It was a great show I also think Molly has to have something to do with it too but how I just don't know.
I will be going back and watching them all back to back and see if there is any easter egss I missed! It is Moffat afterall!
I was going to save the last episode to watch over the weekend, but I couldn't stand it! It was great. I agree that Molly must have helped him, but I am surprised she wasn't on the friends list to be shot. I am hoping Moriarty's death was also a fake, since he is such an amazing character.
Doctor Who, Downton Abbey, and Sherlock! All these amazing British shows, but so long in between seasons! I think I may have to go back and watch Series 1.
Also, I can't wait to see Martin Freeman as Bilbo Baggins in The Hobbit! Great actor and great casting!
Many great quotes in the show, but I really liked this exchange:
John Watson: Remember what they told you: don't try to be clever...
Sherlock Holmes: No.
John Watson: - and please just keep it simple and brief.
Sherlock Holmes: I'm confident the star witness at the trial should come across as intelligent.
John Watson: Intelligent, fine. Let's give smart ass a wide berth.
Sherlock Holmes: I'll just be myself.
John Watson: Are you listening to me?
Also the bit when Watson tells Holmes that friends take care of each other (or was it protect?). Who do you think made the fake call about Mrs. Hudson? Holmes obviously set it up.
Or Moriarty did. That's how it happened in "The Final Problem" - Moriarty made Watson go away by saying that some foreign gentleman was ill and Watson had to attend to him.
My theory (*cue the Anne Elk (Miss) cough*):
Notice that John didn't see Sherlock's body hit the ground. There was a small building in between John and the place where Sherlock supposedly went kaput. Sherlock makes sure to keep John in a place where John couldn't see what happened on the ground. After Sherlock finishes his phone call to John, he jumps off the building. Some people have suggested that it was Moriarty or another body that was dumped off the hospital, but the body was moving as it was falling - definitely Sherlock jumping.
Now Sherlock has to fall somewhere safe. People have suggested that he fell into the garbage truck that was there (it had some trash bags full of stuff in the back), but I doubt that that would've softened his fall. I favor, instead, something like a fireman's trampoline ( an example is here: http://sultana.1stdibs.com/itemdetails.php?id=226485 ). I don't know exactly what caught him, but it's not impossible for a man to be caught from a building of that height.
Next: the body and how to convince John that it is Sherlock he is seeing. John sees Sherlock jump, and rushes around the small building to get to Sherlock, but is knocked aside by a cyclist. This gives Sherlock's people on the ground more time to finish preparing the body. I think that Sherlock played dead. Molly made him look like a corpse (she was definitely in on it) with blood all over him. When John took Sherlock's pulse, he didn't feel anything, but he only held Sherlock's wrist for a couple of seconds. Sherlock was probably stopping his pulse by shoving a small rubber ball under his armpit, cutting off the circulation of his artery. (You might notice that earlier in the episode, Sherlock was dinking with one.)
After John has been deceived, Sherlock is immediately rushed away into the hospital. No self respecting medical person would remove an injured or dead person that quick, so that was also part of the cover-up, to keep Moriarty's men and Watson from catching on to the truth.
(this was all copied and pasted from a PM I made to UnrulySun)
Well reasoned, Eris!
I too think Molly played a role: her access to hospital and familiarity with what dead bodies should look like must have enabled Sherlock in his ruse. But that begs the question: did he go to the roof prepared to "die"? If so, why? Presumably he didnt yet know of Moriarty's assassins...was he just planning to preserve himself given Moriarty's repeated references to Sherlock's fall?
#11: Very well reasoned indeed! I had also noticed the ball and wondered when that would come into play and your idea seems very reasonable. I did watch the commentaries for the first two episodes last night (there's no commentary for Reichenbach) and Benedict Cumberbatch admits to having a tendency to pick up random things around the set and play with them, so there's the possibility that it's an unintentional red herring. I prefer your idea though!
I have no doubt that Molly had something to do with it. The mere fact that Sherlock asked her for a favor and we don't know what it was ("You" was obviously not a reference to sex, that's not Sherlock's style) tells us that.
Oooo! Are the commentaries online somewhere? I am going to search!
If you can't find the commentaries online, the Season 2 DVD has them.
#12: I figured when he talked to Molly he knew what direction things were heading in. It seemed pretty logical to infer that Moriarty's plan was to disgrace Sherlock and kill him or cause Sherlock to kill himself. Death alone would not have been satisfactory to a criminal mastermind. He also knew (from Watson) that killers were moving in around him, which would put his closest friends at risk, therefore he also must have known that Moriarty would somehow use them against him. Molly was the only one that Moriarty would not have considered one of Sherlock's friends, since Sherlock was always mean to her and rebuffing her advances.
Have you all seen this: http://www.johnwatsonblog.co.uk/?
I love all of the comments!
and Steven Moffat won a special award presented by Sherlock and The Doctor!
17- I first saw that last year. Isn't it great? I love how everything is tied in to the series so nicely, and gives some of Watson's inner thoughts. The comments are awesome. :) Sherlock also has (or had, I'm not sure if they kept it up after season 1) a website at: http://www.thescienceofdeduction.co.uk.
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