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1jbd1
Mar 29, 2013, 9:59am Top

New to LibraryThing from Goodreads? Welcome! We're happy to have you, and we realize you probably have lots of questions about how LibraryThing works (as a site, as a community, &c.). This group is full of LibraryThing members ready and waiting to help, and the LT staff are also happy to help answer questions, give pointers, etc.

There's no such thing as a silly question, so please feel free to just ask away!

2TJWilson
Edited: Mar 29, 2013, 11:43am Top

I have some 460 books on Goodreads. I just exported them and then imported them into LibraryThing. My question is concerned with the 200 book count free membership ceiling. While I'm certainly not adverse to paying good money for a product I'm going to use and like (give support where support is due!), I would like to have some sort of trial period before I do something drastic. If I'm going to make the leap and transfer all my reviews and usage to LibraryThing, I want to make sure I like it. So, I guess my question is this: Will just 200 of my 460 books transfer or will 260 of them on hold until I get a paid account? (Or just plain and simply, what will happen to the extra 260 books I imported?) Thanks!

Edit: Also, is there a way to easily export and import my Goodreads reviews to LibraryThing or is that a copy and paste affair?

3jjwilson61
Mar 29, 2013, 11:51am Top

I believe it will allow you to import all of your books, even past the 200 book limit, but it will not allow you to add any more books after that.

If you're doing a CSV import you should be able to import your reviews as just one of the columns, but you have to do it at the same time that you add the books. You can't import just the reviews at a later time.

4jbd1
Mar 29, 2013, 11:52am Top

They'll all import in (you wouldn't be able to add additional ones until you paid, but all the ones in your import file will come through).

But, just for the heck of it, I've upgraded your account so you're set for the next year anyway. Enjoy :-)

5TJWilson
Mar 29, 2013, 11:59am Top

Gotcha. I just checked the CSV, and my reviews are in there. Should upload as well. This is extremely easy! Thanks for the help.

6TJWilson
Mar 29, 2013, 12:01pm Top

Thank you so much! You are awesome! I will spread the word about LibraryThing for sure. My bookstore friends and my English Teacher colleagues might be making the switch as well! Good that it's so easy.

7jjwilson61
Mar 29, 2013, 12:10pm Top

Don't thank us until the import completes and you've checked your data. There are a lot of annoying problems that can occur during the import process such that I've seen the advice here to just try importing 10 or 20 books at first until you've verified that you've got the import csv file formatted properly for LT to accept it.

8TJWilson
Mar 29, 2013, 12:16pm Top

Thanks. I will be vigilant.

9ReapersNovice
Edited: Mar 29, 2013, 12:20pm Top

Another refugee of Goodreads, dumped it as soon as I saw the news. I understand more about why Amazon owns some of LT (because of AbeBooks) so I'll give this a try.

So far, it's nice that I have my reviews back. I was afraid I would have to copy and paste them all. Second, covers don't have any covers on them. Can I actually upload a cover for these books somehow?

ETA: Do I also get emails when someone responds in 'Talk' or do I have to keep checking back?

10MarthaJeanne
Edited: Mar 29, 2013, 12:22pm Top

9> Just go to the work page for each book, and click on change cover in the left hand column. You will see which covers are available for your book. If you don't like the ones there you can easily upload your own.

Hints:
1 Try to use member covers. They are on LT. The better ones are marked as such.

2 Amazon covers are connected by ISBN. That means that changing to an Amazon cover can change the listed ISBN, and there is no guarantee that Amazon will continue to use that cover for that ISBN.

ETA you have to check back.

11ReapersNovice
Mar 29, 2013, 12:24pm Top

Than you, MarthaJeanne, very helpful.:)

12keristars
Mar 29, 2013, 12:27pm Top

Do I also get emails when someone responds in 'Talk' or do I have to keep checking back?

You'll need to keep checking back! If there are threads that you're particularly interested in watching, you can click the star icon on the Talk page. Then, you just have to go to the "Starred" view to see them all together, and to see if any have new messages.

Likewise, if you haven't already figured it out, you can simplify the Talk view to just the groups that you're interested in by joining/watching those groups and then clicking on "Your groups" in the left column. If there are threads you have absolutely no interest in following, you can click the × symbol and it will go away (but not permanently - there's a way to view your ignored threads if you click on "more options").

Can I actually upload a cover for these books somehow?

Yes! This is pretty easy - just go to the work page and click on "Choose cover" in the left column. You'll be able to pick from covers already uploaded by members (recommended) or provided by Amazon (not recommended! they can change without notice and may change the ISBN associated with your record if the cover you choose has a different one), or you can either upload your own image or link to one on the web somewhere.

13ReapersNovice
Mar 29, 2013, 12:51pm Top

Oh, thank you! I was trying to figure out this forum thing, so that is helpful.:)

14Flur
Mar 29, 2013, 12:59pm Top

I have somewhere in the ballpark of 800 books to bring over from Goodreads, so I second the free trial period request.

15jjwilson61
Mar 29, 2013, 1:04pm Top

While you can follow groups from the Groups page it's easier to Join or Watch the groups that you are interested in and then you can follow them all at once from the Talk page.

16TJWilson
Edited: Mar 29, 2013, 2:07pm Top

One more question: Is there a stat feature, showing you how many books you've read a year? Kind of superficial -- well, super superficial -- but it was kind of a motivator to read more.

Edit: Just found out you can sort them by year read in the Profile section. Nice. I really like LibraryThing so far.

17keristars
Mar 29, 2013, 2:10pm Top

While there isn't a quick stat for that, there are several ways to work around it (at least if/until we get one), such as using tags or collections. You'll see that the "read in 2011" tag, for example, is relatively popular on the site. You can also use the beta list feature, though it is very much beta and not very useful yet.

18jennybhatt
Mar 29, 2013, 2:27pm Top

>16 TJWilson:, TJWilson - I use collections to create my reading lists by years. Tags will work too as >17 keristars:, Keristars, recommends.

19TanteLeonie
Edited: Mar 29, 2013, 3:02pm Top

wrong place for question, sorry, I'm a newbie :) Would prefer to delete this msg but can't seem to

20ScarletBea
Mar 29, 2013, 2:46pm Top

I'm another one!
I've just posted on the other thread ("how to succeed in an Amazon/GR world") about how I just needed a little incentive to leave GR but couldn't find another place to keep my books, and then just followed a link and now here I am :)
*happy to be within book-lovers*

21Nicole_VanK
Mar 29, 2013, 2:53pm Top

Not much to add (willing to help out if called upon though). But, anyway, a hearty welcome to all of you GR "refugees" - I hope you'll enjoy this site as much as I do.

22klarusu
Mar 29, 2013, 2:58pm Top

Just dropping by to say, 'Welcome'. Always happy to help if anyone needs it. For those of you that head this way, I hope you love it here as much as I do!

23kgodey
Mar 29, 2013, 3:50pm Top

Welcome, everyone! I'm also happy to help if anyone needs it :)

24Bookmarque
Mar 29, 2013, 3:58pm Top

Ditto. If anyone wants an LT buddy to show them the ropes, just send me a PM or if you haven't gotten that far, post here.

252wonderY
Mar 29, 2013, 4:01pm Top

Glad to see you all come marching up the road. You'll each quickly get your own tent and bedroll. Sit and take a deep breath of the good air here. Stash your books in whatever order you prefer. Debriefing goes on at all hours.

26koeeoaddi
Edited: Mar 29, 2013, 4:08pm Top

Hello. I'm another GR expat. Thanks for the year long free membership. I do have a question, though. What happens to the books I have in excess of 200 after the membership expires, if I choose to continue as a free user?

27foggidawn
Mar 29, 2013, 4:10pm Top

#26 Your books will still be in your catalog, you just won't be able to add any more after the one-year membership expires.

28calm
Mar 29, 2013, 4:14pm Top

Koeeoaddi - they won't disappear you just will not be able to add any more books. I hope that you like what you find here.

But then I think that the lifetime membership is a brilliant deal - possibly the best $25 I have ever spent:)

Also there are occasional competitions that offer lifetime memberships for free - like the current Edible Books contest.

29kgodey
Mar 29, 2013, 4:16pm Top

#28: Lifetime memberships are actually "pay as much as you want", the $25 is just the suggested amount.

30Nicole_VanK
Mar 29, 2013, 4:18pm Top

Nothing will happen to them. If you should choose not to upgrade/prolong you will merely not be able to add new ones after that time.

Believe me: years ago I paid US$ 25 (if I remember correctly) for life membership and in my view it was the best return for money ever. But by all means: check out if the site works for you.

31calm
Mar 29, 2013, 4:18pm Top

kgodey - I know that but I thought that it was worth paying the full asking price:)

32kgodey
Mar 29, 2013, 4:24pm Top

#31: Me too – I also bought a CueCat and a gift membership for my friend; I was just pointing out that it could be cheaper.

33lilithcat
Mar 29, 2013, 4:27pm Top

> 19

Click on the "More" link under your post, and you'll see a "delete" option.

34shanaqui
Mar 29, 2013, 4:32pm Top

Hi! When I try to use the "import from goodreads" option, it keeps giving me this error message: "Problem: The information you uploaded is no longer available. Please try again."

Anyone got any ideas as to what's wrong? Or where I should report the problem?

35brandyhei
Mar 29, 2013, 4:33pm Top

GR: Ahem. Hey. We need to talk.

brandyhei: (oblivious) 'Bout what?

GR: I've been talking to Amazon.

brandyhei: (sort of laughs) Amazon?... What's this about?

GR: Look brandyhei... Things change. I've changed, you've changed...

brandyhei: (starting to get it) But I love you! I don't want things to change!

GR: Shhh, I know. It's just the fault in our stars, I guess.

brandyhei: I... I haven't read that one...

GR: Oh? Well y'know, Amazon has used paperbacks starting at--

brandyhei: Stop! Stop it! (runs away, snot-sobbing & flaily)

...

LT: Hey, pretty lady, why so blue?

brandyhei: (sniff) Goodreads... (mumble, mumble)

LT: Aw, don't cry. (offers hug, brandyhei accepts) What can I do?

brandyhei: (plucking up) Just... be you.

--
Hope this isn't a wildly inappropriate first post, but yeah. Hi.

36jbd1
Mar 29, 2013, 4:33pm Top

>35 brandyhei: - Awesome. And welcome!

372wonderY
Mar 29, 2013, 4:37pm Top

>35 brandyhei:
*grin*
You'll do.

38jennybhatt
Mar 29, 2013, 4:38pm Top

>35 brandyhei: - that's terrific. Lightens things up a bit, compared to the other Amazon/GR thread that's getting a bit heavy. Welcome!

39jbd1
Mar 29, 2013, 4:39pm Top

>34 shanaqui: - Hmm. We're looking into that!

40shanaqui
Edited: Mar 29, 2013, 4:44pm Top

>39 jbd1: - Thank you!

41jbd1
Mar 29, 2013, 4:49pm Top

>34 shanaqui: - Can you tell us at what point you're seeing that error (as soon as you load the page? some other time?), and where? Also, it might be worth trying the "Click here to download" link at http://www.librarything.com/import/goodreads, too, to see if that makes a difference. Keep us posted!

42shanaqui
Mar 29, 2013, 4:53pm Top

>41 jbd1: - I download the file, select it in the importer, and then the page hangs round for a while doing nothing before reloading to give that error message, on this url: http://www.librarything.com/import?uploadalert=The%20information%20you%20uploade....

I've tried it on firefox and internet explorer, but it didn't work on either.

43jbd1
Mar 29, 2013, 4:54pm Top

>42 shanaqui: - Huh. Weird. Sending you a message on your profile, will try to help figure out what's up.

44brandyhei
Mar 29, 2013, 5:00pm Top

>36 jbd1:, 37 - Thanks! Happy to be here.

>38 jennybhatt: - Yeah, I read some of that. Taking into account limited programming resources and the rapid mass-exodus tendencies of jilted users (ie, how many people did Instagram lose on that last TOS update? and how many new users did Feedly pick up last week?) I think discussions of what LT can change are a bit wrong-headed. I mean, I've been here a couple hours, so what do I know? But I'm willing to bet that a) making sure people are aware of LT & b) a few soft-landing features like a Getting Started page, maybe Tips & Tricks, would go along way for people like me. If I wanted a site just like Goodreads, I'd hold my nose and stay there.

45klarusu
Mar 29, 2013, 5:08pm Top

Welcome brandyhei, what an entry - I just got told off for laughing into my phone when I should be watching a film ;-)

46jennybhatt
Mar 29, 2013, 5:15pm Top

>44 brandyhei: - well-said. I agree that discussion needs to go back to focusing on how to help GR members migrate if they so choose rather than whether LT is superior to GR or not - clearly, that's not the issue at this particular stage.

LT vs other competitors and the needs of LT members to move this site with the times while keeping the features we love most - these are both worthwhile and related discussions. I think the waters are getting too muddied by trying to discuss and resolve all things all at once......

47TJWilson
Mar 29, 2013, 6:32pm Top

Just uploaded all of my stuff, but the only things that didn't transfer over are my reading dates (start and finish). Is there a way to fix this or should I just manually add the dates in?

48shanaqui
Mar 29, 2013, 6:33pm Top

Hmmm, some of my reviews don't seem to be transferring. D'oh.

49Murphy-Jacobs
Mar 29, 2013, 9:29pm Top

I'm seeing a few friends from GR showing up here (Hey Koe!) I'm still poking all the buttons and checking on my import (some 2000+ books) and I noticed that some of my tagged books have not uploaded while others did. Not sure what that means or if I'm going to be hand entering/correcting stuff. I have a lot of "blanks" in my library that I have to figure out.

50HenriMoreaux
Mar 29, 2013, 9:53pm Top

Greetings, also a GR refugee here.

I note LT has an extensive variety of stats, but is there something simple buried somewhere that I've missed that just gives you Years vs Books Read & Years vs Pages Read, a snappy graph of Books Read Year vs Publication Date would be a bonus.

eg: these stats http://www.goodreads.com/review/stats/5238614-henri-moreaux

51keristars
Mar 29, 2013, 10:04pm Top

50> No, there isn't one.

There is an old graph that kind of shows books by reading dates, but I forget the link and it's more a chart/timeline than a count or anything.

52nycnorma
Mar 29, 2013, 11:00pm Top

I am attempting an import from Goodreads that I began several hours ago. 23 books appeared in my account (all sans cover images, sadly), but that's it. I've been seeing this message on the import page the entire time and it hasn't changed at all:

You have 818 ISBNs in your lookup queue, including 0 failed and 818 active. (clear queue)

Finishing estimate: between 1 hours, 19 minutes and 2 hours, 13 minutes.

Is this a normal amount of time for input?

53HenriMoreaux
Edited: Mar 29, 2013, 11:03pm Top

52>

I'm in the same boat with a queue of 1,100 - I believe overall there's a queue of more than a quarter of a million books from us folk who are abandoning goodreads. So the short answer would be yes it's not normal but no, nothing is wrong - just a big inrush of ex-goodreaders.

54Murphy-Jacobs
Mar 29, 2013, 11:05pm Top

Yeah, just let the poor computers churn for a few hours and wait until tomorrow to worry about it :)

55TJWilson
Mar 29, 2013, 11:13pm Top

Just finished importing everything. Goodreads account deleted.

56SqueakyChu
Mar 29, 2013, 11:34pm Top

Welcome to all Goodreads refugees. We're happy to have you test the waters here...and hope you decide to stay!

Please take some time to get to know this web site. It is huge. You may not find everything you want at first. It may be where you're not looking...or it might not be here at all.

Start by listing at least a few of your books in your library so we can get to know you.

Begin by choosing at least one *active* group to join and don't hesitate to pop into the conversations on anyone's threads.

If some people or groups seem a bit "rough around the edges", abandon those individuals/groups (Tim, go easy on our newbies!) and seek company from those with whom you are more comfortable or compatible.

If you have any questions, please ask.

If you are an author, please take care not to promote your books where promotion is not wanted. If you are unsure where you may promote your books safely, just ask.

Enjoy your time here...and do offer your suggestions for improvements to this website. We're eager to hear what you have to say.

57LoriBrainard
Mar 29, 2013, 11:51pm Top

I'm a GR refugee and I've just joined LT. My books are in the process of importing. Question: when looking at my library there used to be a column at the far right giving me the option of editing an entry (among other things). That column seems to have disappeared and been replaced with check boxes. How do I return to the original options?

58keristars
Mar 29, 2013, 11:55pm Top

You need to click on the lightning bolt icon at the top of the catalogue. At some point, you shifted into Power Edit mode, which is what those check boxes are for. The lightning bolt button is the trigger.

59bunwat
Mar 30, 2013, 12:19am Top

Hi all, another refugee here, my books seem to have imported fine, YAY! Already recognise a couple people so my question is, how do I add friends so I can find them again? Hi Ko, Hi Murphy!

60_Jennifer
Edited: Mar 30, 2013, 12:28am Top

I'll say hello to0 - uploading my books now and things seem to be going really smoothly. Thanks so much for the free one year trial. :)

61bunwat
Mar 30, 2013, 12:38am Top

Agreed, thank you very much for the trial. I had considered joining before but I kept thinking but what if I don't like it and I already paid? The year trial really put it over the top for me.

62jjwilson61
Edited: Mar 30, 2013, 12:52am Top

59> If you know they're userid then you can type it into the search box at the upper left of every page and click on Members in the left-hand column of the page. If they've entered their real names you can search on that too. That takes you to their profile from which I believe you can friend them.

63bunwat
Mar 30, 2013, 12:53am Top

Thanks very much.

64TnTexas
Mar 30, 2013, 1:23am Top

So I'm slowly adding my books from Goodreads, and I've run into a bit of a problem with a couple of them. Searching for the title here on the website brought up a record for the book in question so I clicked on it and was taken to an entry for it (picture and everything) with a button that said "add to your library". I clicked the button and was taken to a page that said the book could not be found. I chose to manually add the book, but now it sits there all by itself with no friends - and I know they're out there. I don't mind the books being friendless, but is there something I can do/should do to combine them with the other entries I saw? I'd hate to mess up the database with a bunch of "orphans" my first week here if there's some way it can be avoided. Thanks!

65KarenJS
Edited: Mar 30, 2013, 1:52am Top

I am also thinking about importing my books from GR. Do I have to have a Lifetime membership or is one year sufficient? Is there a free trial period?

66avatiakh
Mar 30, 2013, 1:51am Top

#64: since you're new, you can ask for your book to be combined with other editions on this thread - http://www.librarything.com/topic/151424

or

try it yourself by going to the author page and in the 'Improve this author' box (scroll down and look on right hand side) click on 'combine/separate works'.

67Nicole_VanK
Mar 30, 2013, 2:01am Top

> 64: There are several ways to combine. On every work page you'll find an "editions" link in the left hand column. That will often bring up potential combinations.

You can also combine from the author pages. There you'll find a link to combining in the right hand column.

In your specific case I noticed you had "Jennifer Becton" down as such, instead of as "Becton, Jennifer". I've combined the two.

If you can't work it out you can always ask for help at the "Please fix this book" topics in the combiners group: http://www.librarything.com/topic/151424

> 65: That depends. If you take the year subscription you won't be able to add new books after the year is up unless you renew / upgrade. Other than that there's not much difference. (And neither you nor your books will be deleted if the time is up).

Personally I took a life membership right away, back when, and never regretted it. But if you want to feel the water first a one year subscription might be a good choice.

68RBeffa
Mar 30, 2013, 2:01am Top

>64 TnTexas: TN, which book is it? I, or another member can take a look to see if there are any odd problems and connect the book for you.

I have noticed that sometimes a book doesn't instantly connect with other editions but gets joined later. However you can usually connect it yourself by going to the main page of the book and clicking on "editions" at the bottom of the far left column. This process can be tricky and you will get better with experience, but initially just look and see if clicking the link produces any "Potential work combinations" for you to connect to.

When adding a book and it doesn't find a match change the source you are looking at. This is particularly important for obscure books. I prefer to always add books by going to the add books tab at the top of your pages. Then enter the isbn for the book and select one of the many books sources to search (overcat searches many but amazon will get you most books). If you have a book from Australia you would try one of the Aussie or NZ libraries for a lookup, for example if you didn't get a hit on your first try.

69bongo_x
Mar 30, 2013, 2:02am Top

Is there a guide for new users from Goodreads? A getting started guide would be great, but something listing the differences would be handy as well.

70bongo_x
Mar 30, 2013, 2:03am Top

All of my books did not import and only some of the tags. Is there a way to delete all and try again?

71Kiwiria
Mar 30, 2013, 2:10am Top

Hi jbd1, what about old free accounts? Will we be grandfathered in and receive a year's free membership as well, or should I go ahead and create a new account instead?

72Helenliz
Mar 30, 2013, 5:46am Top

Another GR refuge here. I just want somewhere to log my reading and store my reviews. So I'm taking advantage of LT's generous introductory offer and will try it out.
Import in progress, I imagine I may be back with questions if that doesn't work out...

73Vivl
Mar 30, 2013, 6:30am Top

Hi folks, another GR refugee here. Thank you for the free year!

I started up my import (just under 300 books) this morning but this evening, about 7 hours later, the progress page is still saying that none have been processed. The only books that have appeared in my library are those without ISBNs, which appeared immediately this morning. I've cleared the list and started again. I assumed that the process would chug along while I was off at work, without my internet connection being active, but was that a mistake?

74HenriMoreaux
Mar 30, 2013, 6:33am Top

Mine's been sitting like this for about 12 hours now;

Lookup queue
You have 1,088 ISBNs in your lookup queue, including 0 failed and 1,088 active. (clear queue)
Finishing estimate: between 1 hours, 19 minutes and 2 hours, 13 minutes.

Think it might just be quite bogged down with all the new GR sign ups.

75Vivl
Mar 30, 2013, 6:39am Top

Thanks for letting me know that, HenriMoreaux. I'll be more patient!

76Scorbet
Mar 30, 2013, 6:42am Top

>74 HenriMoreaux:

Yup. timspalding mentioned at one point yesterday that there were over 250,000 books in the queue, which will take quite a time to get through.

>73 Vivl:

Once your file is uploaded the importer works away, but as there's a huge backlog at the moment it may take quite a while.

77Jakujin
Mar 30, 2013, 6:46am Top

Refugee. I've been on LT in a quiet way, but have just signed up for life and begun the import. I'm not technical and had no idea you can export with reviews attached. Mental ease to find that out. I'll have to fiddle with my library but that's the fun part.

78pengvini
Edited: Mar 30, 2013, 6:49am Top

>69 bongo_x:
BookRiot's blog gives a good overview of GoodReads vs. LT:
http://bookriot.com/2012/07/31/goodreads-v-librarything-part-one/

79Vivl
Mar 30, 2013, 6:48am Top

Thanks, Scorbet. :)

80deadwhiteguys
Mar 30, 2013, 6:56am Top

Hi guys-

I'm the author of the LT and Goodreads comparison mentioned in 78- if I can be of any help to anyone making the switch, please let me know! And welcome to all the new people. LT's UI and culture can feel a little strange when coming from such a social/graphic-heavy place like Goodreads, but LT's utility is (in my opinion) much better. Anyway, just let me know if I can be of any service :)

-Amanda

81rebeccanyc
Mar 30, 2013, 7:37am Top

Welcome to LT everyone! I loved it here from the minute I joined, when it was basically just a cataloging site. Since then, I've "met" wonderful people and added hundreds of books to my TBR shelves based on their recommendations and reviews. I hope you all come to love LT as much as I do, and I will do my best to be helpful.

There is a lot to explore on LT, but for those of you looking to find compatible people (and groups) one of my recommendations is to go to your Profile page. Near the top, in the right-hand column, you will see "Members with Your Books" (this works best after you've entered, or imported, a bunch of books yourself). Click on a few of them and look at their libraries, or look at the "Books You Share" section, again near the top on the right-hand column on their profiles. If you sort this (using the little icon at the far right of the box) by Popularity (Low to High), you can see the more obscure books you share first, which I find is a good way of seeing if we share book interests. (After all, LOTS of people have To Kill a Mockingbird, so what does that tell you?) Then, you can look at the Groups that person belongs to and explore the ones that sound interesting.

OK, I know that sounds like a lot of steps. But you will get the hang of it, and one of the most fun parts of LT, after you get settled in, I know, is exploring other people's libraries and books.

82mckait
Mar 30, 2013, 7:48am Top

Welcome to all of the new folks. Do remember to check out the forums when you get your books sorted out. It took me too long to find them and use them, but I have met some really nice people here. I hope you do, too.

83Vivl
Mar 30, 2013, 11:48am Top

My books are slowly appearing! The slowness is actually kind of a good thing, as I have to manually add the date I began and finished each book. Although I had that information on Goodreads it doesn't seem to have come through. Still, it's a small cost to pay, and is actually inspiring me to add more reviews as I go.

Thank you all for the lovely warm welcome. This feels like a very good place to be.

84Rayaowen
Mar 30, 2013, 12:02pm Top

I'm in process of transfering my books from GoodReads. If I leave the LT site before the transfer is complete will it stop? I hope not.

When posting how do I make a book title blue?

85Bookmarque
Edited: Mar 30, 2013, 12:04pm Top

Adding square brackets around your book title will make the touchstone dropdown list appear. If the correct book title isn't automatically selected, click through to the dropdown list and choose the right one.

square brackets - Wonder Boys

86LShelby
Mar 30, 2013, 12:05pm Top

I don't know the answer to your first question but the second one I do know.
Put square brackets around the title of your book. LT will automatically attempt to create a link to it. But if the title is similar to a more popular book it might pick the wrong one. So look to the right side of the edit box, where it will show which book it is linking to. If it has the wrong book, click on "others" and pick the right book off the list.

87SqueakyChu
Edited: Mar 30, 2013, 12:07pm Top

> 84

When posting how do I make a book title blue?

Enclose it in square brackets (those lower case brackets that are to the right of the "p" key on your keyboard). Be sure to choose the correct book from the list that will appear on the right before saving.

88LShelby
Mar 30, 2013, 12:06pm Top

Bookmarque beat me to it! Ah, well. :)

89SqueakyChu
Mar 30, 2013, 12:07pm Top

...and me! *sigh*

90TnTexas
Edited: Mar 30, 2013, 12:15pm Top

> 67: Thank you, BarkingMatt! I'm so used to entering the author's name first then last over at Goodreads that it never even occurred to me that that might be the problem. I'll keep that in mind if I need to manually add more books. I've also bookmarked the thread you mentioned in case I get stuck again.

>68 RBeffa:: Thanks, RBeffa! I'll keep your tips in mind.

91Scorbet
Mar 30, 2013, 12:07pm Top

>84 Rayaowen:

No, once your file is uploaded, LT will work away at importing them. It may take quite a while though. (As in hours apparently)

92Bookmarque
Mar 30, 2013, 12:08pm Top

ah the helpful software people!

putting double brackets works for authors - Patrick McGrath

93Scorbet
Mar 30, 2013, 12:12pm Top

>84 Rayaowen:

Oh and to further explain - the blue titles are as Bookmarque already indicated are called "Touchstones" - there's a hint to the right of the "Add a message" box regarding how to use them, in case you need for future reference. The titles touchstones will also appear then in the sidebar at the right towards the top of the page.

94Rayaowen
Mar 30, 2013, 12:13pm Top

Thank you for telling me how to do that and for pointing out where to find the square bracket!

95keristars
Mar 30, 2013, 12:16pm Top

90> The LT author names are stored in the url as "lastnamefirstname", so Jim Smith entered as "Smith, Jim" can be found at /smithjim. If you don't reverse it like that, it's "/jimsmith".

A lot of the author names have been combined, so it won't matter the order you've entered. But ones where the names are ambiguous - "James Cooper", for example - have been intentionally kept separate.

Best practice is to enter author names in the "Smith, Jim" format, but we won't tie you down until you comply if you prefer it the other way around. (It does make things a lot easier!)

Also, the format for suffixes is "Smith, Jim, Jr.", fwiw.

96LShelby
Mar 30, 2013, 12:18pm Top

Maybe this would be a good time to point out that you can link to other members too, as Scorbet linked to Bookmarque above, by putting an "at" symbol (shift 2 on my keyboard) in front of their name.

97Bookmarque
Mar 30, 2013, 12:20pm Top

You know what? A nice upside...a bonus, say, to the GR influx is it has reminded me of some features that I don't take advantage of, but should. Like moving the description to the top of the work page. I don't know why I never did that before. I know the sections move, but sort of forgot. LT is so feature-dense that I think I have forgotten more about using it than I remember!

98jennybhatt
Edited: Mar 30, 2013, 12:22pm Top

>97 Bookmarque:, Bookmarque - I agree. I've been on LT on and off since 2010, but really started being more active recently. There's a lot of new stuff I've learned just following this thread. Thanks to all who've been posting the tips.

99suzemo
Mar 30, 2013, 12:36pm Top

Greetings!

I created a LibraryThing account in October (around the time of the UGB debacle at GR), but I didn't use it because of the 200bk limit (I read... a lot); I know I can import GR data, but this site won't be as useful with me actually using it (new books and whatnot). Is there any chance of applying/beg/cry for the new "free year" to test it out? I don't mind paying, but I'd like to try it out before I do.

If not, is it ok to create a new account with the same email address?

Thanks!

100Bookmarque
Edited: Mar 30, 2013, 12:38pm Top

Your wish has already been granted, suzemo - http://www.librarything.com/blogs/librarything/2013/03/free-accounts-through-sun...

I bet if you email the crew, they can apply this to your existing account.

101Murphy-Jacobs
Mar 30, 2013, 12:39pm Top

GR Ref here -- import complete, but a lot of my tags vanished and retagging some 1000+ books is...daunting. I haven't worked out the details of the library functions. Is there a handy dandy instruction post around here somewhere that someone can point to so my lazy self doesn't have to hunt it out while low on caffeine?

Murph

102FiberBabble
Mar 30, 2013, 12:40pm Top

Hmmm. Well... it took a long time yesterday to import my books from Goodreads - each time. First, I noticed my reviews weren't being imported. Then I re-named the category headings to make my Goodread shelf names 'Tags'. My imports would stop at about 200 books, then I'd have to clear the queue and re-import.

This morning I'm finding duplicate titles with different ISBNs (some for the Spanish translations!). Unfortunately when I went through all 1000+ books in power edit mode I didn't realize that clicking a box (for future deletion) only worked on the page I was on and as soon as I went to the next page, the clicks on the previous page disappeared. My fault - I should have checked it out at book 100, rather than book 900!

None of my GR to-read shelf is tagged as to-read in LT, even though I made sure to change the .csv heading appropriately (maybe it's the dash in to-read?)

But I still don't have all of my reviews. I know that LT is *not* GR, but that is a huge, huge, HUGE reason that I use GR - to write and read reviews. My GR account has 282 reviews. My LT import seems to have approximately 79 reviews.

Now - don't get me wrong: I don't hate LT. I've been using it as a (paid!) resource for years with a library I used to manage. It's been a phenomenal resource.

But for my personal stuff and the way I use GR, I'm having some real apples and oranges issues. And I'm wondering how much more of my time I'm willing to dedicate to just getting all of the info transferred from one service to another.

103RBeffa
Mar 30, 2013, 12:48pm Top

I'm glad to see all the new arrivals here. Welcome! Exploring LT is part of the fun. There are some features from GR that you will miss but you will also find new things. Something I like to do is to click on reviews near the the top of your home page. All of your reviews will appear on the left side and recent reviews by other people who have the same books in your library will appear on the right side.

have fun exploring

104Aerrin99
Mar 30, 2013, 12:50pm Top

> 101, you might find this HelpThing page helpful: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/HelpThing:Your_books

105TnTexas
Mar 30, 2013, 12:56pm Top

keristars: Best practice is to enter author names in the "Smith, Jim" format, but we won't tie you down until you comply if you prefer it the other way around.

LOL! That's good to know. :) But I promise to do my best to remember

106.Monkey.
Mar 30, 2013, 1:10pm Top

>95 by keristars, Also, the format for suffixes is "Smith, Jim, Jr.", fwiw.

Geesh, I never knew that one! I actually just ran into that situation a few days ago and was all, how the freak do I make it in the right order?! lol. Thanks for that. :P

107mckait
Mar 30, 2013, 1:20pm Top

And Goodreads folks, remember to look here:

http://www.librarything.com/blogs/librarything/2013/03/free-accounts-through-sun...

Free one year memberships ... unlimited uploads when you are a member. And being a member is well worth the one time payment...

108bongo_x
Mar 30, 2013, 1:20pm Top

Apparently my books are still importing. Last night it said 288 and this morning it said 305. Looks like it’s going to be a while. I don’t see any progress meter, or any indication that it’s happening though.

109Murphy-Jacobs
Edited: Mar 30, 2013, 1:35pm Top

>108 bongo_x: Lots of people coming in, so give it plenty of time. I'm sure the folks on the back end are scrambling to keep the servers from overheating!

And thanks for the link to the wiki! Very helpful! I saw it in the sidebar but didn't quite "twig" to what it was (there's so much!) so that was a handy clue!

110TnTexas
Mar 30, 2013, 1:38pm Top

I've got another question if you don't mind. How many collections can one create? I tried to recreate my Goodreads shelves with the collections option, but after a certain number I couldn't create more nor could I change the order of the ones I had created around. Was I experiencing some kind of glitch or is there a finite number of collections one can create?

111keristars
Mar 30, 2013, 2:11pm Top

110> You should be able to create as many as you'd like, but it seems to work best if you have no more than about a dozen. The most I've heard of people using and having success with is 30-40.

106> I know, right? It's sort of unintuitive. But I've seen in the past where "Smith, Jr., Jim" gets displayed as "Jr. Smith, Jim", which is clearly not the right way 'round. Apparently LT treats the first comma as the name divider, and the second comma as "and this is everything else". It has made some interesting name choices back before we had "other authors" and people would enter co-authors on a single line.

112rebeccanyc
Mar 30, 2013, 2:13pm Top

#110 TnTexas

I don't know if there's a limit to collections; I have 19, including the automatic ones and I can change their order. But I do know there are an unlimited number of tags, and they might work depending on what you are trying to do with them.

There are probably as many ways of using tags and collections as there are people on LT, but to make this less abstract, I'll tell you what I do. I use tags for features of the books themselves (e.g., 19th century literature, French literature, Russian history, biology, current issues, etc. etc.). These, as I say are unlimited, both in the number you can have and the number you can assign to any book. I use collections for my interaction with the book (e.g., Read in 2013, Favorites of Recent Years, Hoping to Read Soon, Unfinished, etc. etc.). A book might fall into more than one of my collections, but it will definitely have multiple tags.

Hope this is helpful.

113the_red_shoes
Mar 30, 2013, 3:01pm Top

I'm a lifetime member here but spent a lot of time on GoodReads, and I have reviews there. How do I export just my reviews here? Is that possible?

114Bookmarque
Mar 30, 2013, 3:12pm Top

BTW - 1/2 star ratings are possible. Just click twice on any given star and it goes to 1/2.

115Murphy-Jacobs
Mar 30, 2013, 3:15pm Top

AIGH! HEEEELLLLLP!!

I have some 60 pages of BLANK BOOKS in my library. Import error, I think. The duplicates I can handle, but that's a lot of blanks to delete! Is there someone I can contact who might be able to go in to the back side and clear all that emptiness out for me, or must I click that little red X a few hundred times?

116keristars
Mar 30, 2013, 3:24pm Top

You can click the lightning bold button on your catalogue page to go into power edit mode, then select all the records listed and delete them at once. (Double-check that the page you're viewing doesn't have any good records first, of course!)

117Murphy-Jacobs
Edited: Mar 30, 2013, 3:29pm Top

> 116 I thought about that, but although I am in "power edit" mode, I can't seem to select the records. I'm missing something (and there's no wiki article on it). I'll keep clicking until I find it.

FOUND IT! HAPPY!

118bunwat
Edited: Mar 30, 2013, 3:31pm Top

#112 That is very helpful, thanks! My shelves didn't transfer but I can set up tags and collections. I'm going to like being able to tag, I think.

119the_red_shoes
Mar 30, 2013, 3:54pm Top

That is FABULOUS. Had no idea!

120the_red_shoes
Mar 30, 2013, 3:55pm Top

Watch out, tagging is addictive!

121jbd1
Mar 30, 2013, 4:07pm Top

For those waiting on imports: I'll be posting updates periodically at http://www.librarything.com/topic/152119

122bunwat
Mar 30, 2013, 4:18pm Top

Still having trouble finding my friends, I know some of them are here because they said they were coming, and when I use the search box to search on their name I get results, but I don't know how to go from the search result to the profile! Sorry for the newb ignorance but any help would be appreciated.

123Murphy-Jacobs
Mar 30, 2013, 4:19pm Top

Bun, so far I just click on the name, but I haven't done a search yet. I know Koe is here, but haven't run across anyone else I know. Is there anyone we both know that I can search and test on?

124bunwat
Mar 30, 2013, 4:20pm Top

Click on the name in the talk forum?

125lilithcat
Edited: Mar 30, 2013, 4:25pm Top

> 122

I've just realized that if you do an "exact match" search, you can't click on the name to get to the profile. That's silly! I'm off to RSI to recommend a site improvement.

In the meantime you can always type in "http://www.librarything.com/profile/membername"

126keristars
Mar 30, 2013, 4:27pm Top

I just did a test search on "bunwat", and it seems that their account is too new to be indexed properly. The "members" results has a little (1) next to it, but when I click on it, the results page is all blank.

I suggest giving it a little while to populate, and you'll have more success with the site search!

127Murphy-Jacobs
Mar 30, 2013, 4:29pm Top

>124 bunwat: Bun, yes, click on the name in the discussion forum. That's how I found your profile (which is there, complete with picture).

128bunwat
Mar 30, 2013, 4:36pm Top

>126 keristars:, Yeah that's what's happening for me too. I do an exact search on name and I can see that there's a member but when I click on it the results page is blank. Okay now I know what's happening and that I'm not doing anything wrong I'll just wait, or ask her to comment here so I can click on her name.

Sherri, I don't think you know her. But she's nice so maybe you'll get to...

129koeeoaddi
Mar 30, 2013, 4:54pm Top

How did you manage that, Murph? I've been stuck since yesterday at:

"You have 1,878 ISBNs in your lookup queue, including 0 failed and 1,878 active. (clear queue)

Finishing estimate: between 1 hours, 19 minutes and 2 hours, 13 minutes."

I have slightly over 2000 books, but the estimate never changes.

Thanks for the welcome thread and the help!

Ko

(hi BunWat!)

130bunwat
Mar 30, 2013, 5:01pm Top

Hi Ko! I'm imported!! I think I managed to sneak in before the big influx. Probably also helped that it was late at night CA time, so the middle of the night east coast.

131rebeccanyc
Mar 30, 2013, 5:01pm Top

If you go to your own profile page and look at the URL at the top, your member name is the last part of it. If you put someone else's member name there and click enter, you will get to that person's profile page. Keep in mind that if someone has the same member name as someone who's already on LT, the new member will have to pick a different name.

132bunwat
Mar 30, 2013, 5:01pm Top

Thanks so much rebeccanyc that's very helpful

133A_musing
Mar 30, 2013, 5:10pm Top

If anyone feels like talking books while waiting for you upload, we have a read of Mishima's tetralogy going on in Le Salon. Just starting Runaway Horses. Irreverence appreciated.

134Murphy-Jacobs
Mar 30, 2013, 5:21pm Top

Hey ya Ko! Well, it looks like only about half my books imported, plus a metric s**tload of blanks, but I'm working my way around that. Suddenly I feel so unread! ;) But it seems most of what didn't import were my various "books I wanna get/might get/thinking about getting" lists, so that's not so bad. I haven't lost anything, it's just not over here.

135mckait
Mar 30, 2013, 5:30pm Top

Or ... start a new thread in this group.. To find friends or be found post here.. or some such?

136bunwat
Mar 30, 2013, 5:33pm Top

>135 mckait: Good idea!

137Valari2
Mar 30, 2013, 6:07pm Top

Another Goodreads refugee here :) I just wanted to thank everybody for the welcomes. I wasn't expecting that and I'm deeply touched!
I'm slowly getting acquainted with the site while waiting for the rest of my books to import and I must say I really like what I've found so far!

138bunwat
Mar 30, 2013, 6:14pm Top

Can anybody give me or direct me to a brief tutorial on setting tags? I want to tag a bunch of my books but I'm looking for a way to mouse it, instead of having to type in the tag names over and over for many books.

139rebeccanyc
Mar 30, 2013, 6:21pm Top

#138 bunwat

Go to Your Books and click on Power Edit (it's the little lightning flash button. This allows you to make changes to multiple books at the same time in a variety of ways.

Make sure that the Tags option is selected at the top left. Then type in the tag (or tags, separated by commas) you want to add to a bunch of books.

Then go over to the right and check the check boxes for the books you want to add these tags to.

Finally, click on Change Selected Books.

You probably can't change all your books at the same time (i.e., you may have to apply this to various pages separately as you page through your library, but it will definitely speed things up.

140bunwat
Mar 30, 2013, 6:22pm Top

Thanks!!

141keristars
Mar 30, 2013, 6:25pm Top

138> You're going to have to do some typing, at least. LT doesn't auto-populate tags because Tim doesn't like the way that constrains choices - he wants tagging to be more spur of the moment (actually, there's a better in- word that I'm forgetting, not impulsive, but similar).

If you're applying the same tag to a lot of books, you can use the Power Edit method. Alternately, if you know that 50 books have the tag X and 40 of those books also have the tag Y, you can go to "X" on your tag view and edit it to "X, Y" and then all the books will have both tags. Then just remove Y from the ten that don't need it. (This is a lot more useful if you're going from a more specific to a more generic term, so that you don't have to remove books, or if you have two related tags and forgot to add one to a batch.)

142bunwat
Mar 30, 2013, 6:52pm Top

I see a lot of tagging in my future.

143keristars
Mar 30, 2013, 7:09pm Top

I'm chronically behind in my tagging system. I figure one day, I'll sit down and really fix things up...and then I make headway, only to decide on another addition to the list that I just need to have.

All these GR imports and questions have inspired me to really look at my catalogue, though. I'm about to bring in some books that were banished to the back garage in 2008, and I'll update their records and details and scan photos as I shelve. I'm almost dreading all the fixing I'll have to do - these were all amazon-sourced and I can't imagine the ISBN errors or the like.

144Yvane
Mar 30, 2013, 7:14pm Top

Hello everyone. Another Goodreads member trying out LT, here.

Most of my questions so far have been answered (I was having trouble finding my GR friends who have also made profiles here, but if I go to librarything.com/profile/username then it works, so I guess they just aren't appearing in the search results yet). The only remaining one I can think of is: Is there a maximum number of posts per thread? I noticed that the succeed in an Amazon/Goodreads world thread got moved to a part 2 after only 300 posts, which isn't all that long by GR standards. Do threads break after 300 posts or something?

145HenriMoreaux
Mar 30, 2013, 7:14pm Top

141>

Hmm odd, some books have imported with tags, others haven't.

Going to be a lot of typing in my future also to update 1000+ tags and date reads.

146LMHTWB
Mar 30, 2013, 7:19pm Top

>144 Yvane: Welcome! Threads are continued when they become slow to load. There's no set number -- usually it's around 200 and then someone continues it.

147lilithcat
Edited: Mar 30, 2013, 7:21pm Top

> 144

The threads don't break, but because a long thread can take a fair bit of time to upload for folks who have slower systems, the etiquette is to create a continuation after about 200 posts.

If the thread is image intensive (as are many in the Cats, Books, Life is Good group), then it may be continued even earlier.

148keristars
Mar 30, 2013, 7:25pm Top

144> When a thread reaches 200 posts, there is an option to "continue in a new thread" at the bottom of the page. It is, effectively, paginating the thread. If you've ignored the old one, you'll continue ignoring the new one. Likewise with stars. Some groups continue the thread as soon as the option is available, others wait a little longer.

It's mostly a courtesy thing for people with slower internet or computers (or both). We used to do it manually, but after a bit of debate about paginating or something else, this was presented as an option, and it works well.

149.Monkey.
Mar 30, 2013, 7:28pm Top

>144 Yvane: Also note that on GR, it's split into individual pages every 50 responses, that you have to flip through. Here, it's all one single long thread.

150Murphy-Jacobs
Mar 30, 2013, 7:31pm Top

I *think* that my books have finally imported (since I keep finding new ones every time I think I've cleared out the duplicates and must enter things by hand). Not sure. Feeling well read again :) Starting to peek into other people's reviews and look for those with similarly weird, scattered (aka "eclectic") tastes. Looked into a few groups but haven't had the courage to post anything quite yet.

Back to the catalogue!

151Yvane
Mar 30, 2013, 7:31pm Top

Thank you all for the answers! Continuation as an alternative to pagination makes sense. In fact, I rather like that everything (well, the first 200ish posts, at least) is all on one page. :)

152.Monkey.
Mar 30, 2013, 7:34pm Top

>151 Yvane: Indeed, I prefer it myself. And my husband tends to go a bit mad when any forum doesn't allow him to either see everything in one long thread by default, or allow him to choose it for his own view. hahaha.

153Kiwiria
Mar 30, 2013, 7:38pm Top

jbd1, I haven't seen any reply as to whether old free accounts can be grandfathered in. Trying again in the hopes you'll see my question this time :)

154bunwat
Mar 30, 2013, 7:56pm Top

Okay, another question (I'm just full of em today!). When my books imported a few of them didn't come through with covers. Is there some automated way to ask to just add whatever available cover is in the database rather than going one by one? For the particular books where I care about a specific cover I can always change it.

155.Monkey.
Mar 30, 2013, 8:03pm Top

>154 bunwat: Usually they have one, the times they don't is generally on less common books where either there are no covers, or few with none that LT thinks is a good match. In other words, no. But you can view from your profile -- stats/memes -- cover stats and see which ones have no covers, so you at least don't have to go searching through trying to pluck them out randomly amongst the rest.

156serrulatae
Mar 30, 2013, 8:06pm Top

I imported a Japanese book with no ISBN, which, upon checking the author's page, already exists in the LT database but a new one was created when I imported it. So now there are 2 versions of the same book. Is there anyway I can combine mine with the one that already exists (and has been added by other users as well)?

157keristars
Edited: Mar 30, 2013, 8:08pm Top

Covers are usually automatically assigned by best-match. If your book doesn't have a cover assigned, it's usually because there isn't one for the matching ISBN.

You can go to your Statistics page and see your books by cover type (Amazon, Member-best-match, chosen by you, &c.) and then click through to fix them one by one (but without having to scroll through the rest).

There might be an account preference for covers, but I can't for the life of me remember if so (I suspect not, but maybe?)

156> Yes, you can combine them. If they both show up on the same author page, you can click on "Organize author" and then combine from there. Or, you can post to the current Combining/Separating "Fix This Book" thread (#55 is here: http://www.librarything.com/topic/151424)

158.Monkey.
Mar 30, 2013, 8:09pm Top

>156 serrulatae: If you go to the author page, nearer the bottom on the right side is the option to combine/separate, click there and you can combine them. :)

159Jakujin
Mar 30, 2013, 8:12pm Top

Import. Yesterday my books were coming in with reviews, today more books coming that don't have reviews... I hope this is normal, and that the ratings/reviews 'catch up'.

160Yvane
Edited: Mar 30, 2013, 8:38pm Top

>152 .Monkey.: I am the same! :) I like to have it all on one page, especially when I'm browsing on my tablet. It makes for nice lazy swiping!

161Yvane
Mar 31, 2013, 12:03am Top

Here's another silly question for the locals. :)

Is there a way to make time stamps display in your local time zone? I just noticed they're all in EST/EDT/whatever you folks in the eastern US are calling it these days. ;) Since I'm in the UK, that's not very practical.

162bunwat
Mar 31, 2013, 12:04am Top

Ooh good question!

163Vivl
Edited: Mar 31, 2013, 12:07am Top

Anyone else's imports stalled? I had 270 to go about 12 hours ago and have the same number in my queue now (and the same number of books in my library.) I know I need to be patient, but I can't help getting a bit skittish!

I've not noticed any problem with reviews coming through *yet*, but do notice my started/ended reading dates aren't transferred. That's creating a lot of work for me, but I don't mind so much as it's making me look back at what I've read and even add a few more reviews in the process. Was there something I should have done to the .csv file to allow those dates to be transferred? I've just checked the file and there's definitely data in my "date read" column.

One thing I am noticing which seems odd is that sometimes a book that had an associated ISBN in my Goodreads library is appearing here without one, so I'm having to seek it out and add it. Most curious.

Edited to add: Agree wholeheartedly with Yvane and bunwat above. Local times would be somewhat less confusing.

164keristars
Mar 31, 2013, 12:11am Top

161, 162> Nope!

It's "LT Time". Often requested, often declined. Maybe Tim will cave now, though, who knows?

Work-arounds are to get time-zone browser add-ons or keep a chart somewhere to help remember what the offset is from your own timezone. I wonder if it's something that could be done with a Greasemonkey script?

163> What is the format of the dates on your .csv? Someone else asked this, and depending on the format, I wonder if it isn't because the YYYY-MM-DD is the Best format (others work, but the import might not be reading them properly).

165Yvane
Mar 31, 2013, 12:14am Top

Okay. Thanks for the info! That's going to be mighty confusing for those of us outside the US; y'all start daylight savings at different times to us, so the offset actually varies. So if any admins are listening in... I don't want to be that "Hi! I've been here five minutes! Let's change stuff!" person, but this'd be a nice little quality of life improvement. ;)

166Scorbet
Mar 31, 2013, 12:15am Top

>161 Yvane: -163

No, unfortunately the time stamp can't be changed, so we're stuck with LT standard time. (I'm lucky enough that at least for the summer period I've a 12 hour time difference, so just have to mentally switch am to pm!)

>163 Vivl:

There's a thread here showing the current import queue status.

167Vivl
Edited: Mar 31, 2013, 12:22am Top

>164 keristars: Thanks for the suggestion, keristars. I'll check that. Don't think I"ll restart my transfer just to avoid having to manual input the start and end dates though, given the demand on the transfer servers!

Just checked. Yes, the format is Australian local date style, i.e. 17/01/2013 for the 17th of January, 2013. Ah well.

>166 Scorbet: Thanks, Scorbet. I've had a look through that thread but it seems to show that the queue has been growing shorter, hence my fretting about mine remaining static for 12 hours. Not to worry though. I'll just go and distract myself with something else!

Oh, and I seem to be in your timezone as well, just a fair way further south: Perth, Australia. :)

168HenriMoreaux
Mar 31, 2013, 12:31am Top

>163 Vivl:

I started my imports yesterday, the non-ISBNs came in instantly, the ISBN queue of ~1,100 sat still until today when they finished about lunch time.

The queue is just massive is all.

169Scorbet
Mar 31, 2013, 12:44am Top

>167 Vivl:

The time it takes does also depend on how obscure your books are, and which sources it is searching and in which order - if you have a lot of common US books and are using amazon.com as the first source, it will probably find them on the first pass. But if you have a lot of say, Australian published books and are searching the US Library of Congress, it won't find many and they will have to go through a second pass in your second source. (To make it clear LT doesn't use itself to add books - everything is added from an external source.)

170Vivl
Mar 31, 2013, 12:59am Top

>169 Scorbet: Thanks again. Most of my 270 are pretty standard and I'm using Amazon.com first, but there are a few oldies/obscure editions that might well be holding up the flow. I'll just go and overdose on cups of tea until I can play with all my books here!

171OshoOsho
Mar 31, 2013, 1:21am Top

Just saying hello. My queue took a couple of days to finish, and I have 41 that failed, which isn't too bad. I haven't yet dared to look at the last batch of duplicates or I'll never get offline. I see I have a reasonable number of covers to add--in doing an around the world challenge I found I had to scan a lot of them and some didn't transfer over.

172HenriMoreaux
Mar 31, 2013, 1:28am Top

171>

I'm a little concerned about the time that'll have to spend to get my collection back up to scratch also, 800+ dates, tags to enter and hundreds of covers. I'm thankful I saved the covers I've previously scanned for GR though, that'll make my life at least a little easier!

173Shushelle
Mar 31, 2013, 1:34am Top

Hi! I followed some of my friends from GR to LT.

::waves at Dubs and Ko, dusts off pants and looks around::

Everyone is so nice and welcoming! Thank you for all the advice and help. I look forward to meandering around.

174MarthaJeanne
Mar 31, 2013, 3:08am Top

On the time stamps. One sort of gets used to it. It does have the advantage that you see what time it is for the people who are running things. (Night owls is what most of them are! Tim and Jeremy are often around this time of the morning.) At least from today we Europeans are back to the normal time offset.

175Vivl
Edited: Mar 31, 2013, 5:23am Top

Hurrah, about 90 more books have appeared since my earlier post and only 1 failure. Looking good!

Edited to add: All through now, with only three Australian published books failing. Unfortunately I couldn't seem to get a hit on any of the databases for those editions, even though they are already listed here on LibraryThing by other readers. (I tried all the major Australian sources). Is there a quick way to chose the exact ISBN edition you possess when it is already here but not in the source databases? I couldn't figure it out so ended up adding the books manually and all was well once I'd added the ISBN.

(Apologies if this kind of question is dealt with thoroughly on an information page here somewhere. Once I have my books in some kind of shape I promise to read about the nuts and bolts!)

176MarthaJeanne
Mar 31, 2013, 5:37am Top

The best source to try for books already in LT is OverCat. If the other member found it in a library source it should be in OverCat. Otherwise you have to do what you did - enter manually.

177Helenliz
Mar 31, 2013, 6:14am Top

Daft question from another new one. On the series list (which I love, btw) why are some ticks in different colours? I have blue & green, but can;t work out the logic for one or the other.

178AnnieMod
Mar 31, 2013, 6:22am Top

It is based on which collection you have the book into:

Green - Your library
Blue - Read but unowned
Purple - Wish list
Grey - Other collections

In case of multiple collections, the preference order is purple to blue to green to gray (if I remember this order correctly).

179rebeccanyc
Mar 31, 2013, 7:43am Top

When you are adding books (i.e., not having them imported), I agree that OverCat is a good source for US books, and for more recent ones. For books published elsewhere, you can click on the All 700 Available Sources link at the bottom of the left-hand column, and then you will get drop-down lists in the right-hand column where you can view sources based on language and country. For a book published in Australia, for example, you might want to search the Australian National Library. Once you use a source, it will be added to your list of sources on the left (and no, there seems to be no way to reorder that list, which is a minor source of frustration for me). You will find as you go along which sources are best for the books that you have.

180Helenliz
Mar 31, 2013, 8:10am Top

>178 AnnieMod: - thanks, I knew it had to be relevant, I just couldn't work it out.

181TJWilson
Mar 31, 2013, 9:11am Top

What's the difference between the official LibraryThing Facebook app and LibraryThing Unleashed?

182Helenliz
Mar 31, 2013, 9:36am Top

If a book comes up as "Failed" on the import, what does that mean? I selected an inappropriate source to look for ISBNs? And what can I do to upload them, or do I resort to manual adding?

183erincathryn
Mar 31, 2013, 10:49am Top

Hello LibraryThing *waves*
I am a recent Goodreads refugee, testing the waters here. I exported my data from GR, and was going to import it here, but I know I have a lot of books on my "To be read" pile. They don't necessarily need to be here top priority. All I am really fussed with is the last few years' worth. Should I just import the whole lot and then delete what I want? Or go into the scary waters of the .csv file and delete things there?

Happy to be among friends again, instead of behind enemy lines.

184.Monkey.
Mar 31, 2013, 10:52am Top

>183 erincathryn: If you sort your CSV file where the to-read books are lumped together, it'd probably be simpler to delete them that way than after importing. Also keep in mind there's thousands of books ahead of you waiting to be imported, so the fewer you throw into the pile, the quicker it'll probably go. But it's entirely up to you, there's no right/wrong way to go about it.

185erincathryn
Mar 31, 2013, 10:58am Top

Another refugee question! I am using OpenOffice, and it is asking me questions about how to format the .csv when I open it. (separation, etc) Any advice?

186.Monkey.
Mar 31, 2013, 10:59am Top

It should be fine to just hit "okay" with how it is. :)

187Scorbet
Mar 31, 2013, 11:00am Top

>185 erincathryn:

csv stands for Comma Separated Values - so you want it to separate when it meets a comma.

188Flur
Mar 31, 2013, 11:03am Top

> 185

CSV = comma-separated values, so if it's asking you how to parse into columns, use the comma.

189Flur
Mar 31, 2013, 11:04am Top

> 187

Great minds think alike? ;)

190.Monkey.
Mar 31, 2013, 11:08am Top

I'm pretty sure OO.o intuits that from the file type, hence "just clicking okay" ;) I glanced at the options the first time I opened one, and never since, and it does it right, lol.

191Booktrovert
Mar 31, 2013, 12:48pm Top

hi there. i am sorry if this is a repeat question:

is there a way to see books that are duplicated within my library? when i uploaded my goodreads library, to merge with my existing LT library, it appears a lot of duplication occurred (even though i clicked to merge the duplicates and not add an already existing book). short of going through every page of my books and editing them one at a time (or using that lightening bolt thing-y, sorry, i am not sure what that's called?), is there a quick way to access a list of duplicates (whether same isbn or different editions of the same title) to be able to deal with them on one page?

thank you so much for any help you can offer.

192.Monkey.
Mar 31, 2013, 12:55pm Top

This link should take you to duplicates. For future reference, most of these sorts of -random information- things can be found by going profile -- stats/memes :)

193Valari2
Mar 31, 2013, 12:56pm Top

>191 Booktrovert:

Hi, try the "Work duplicates": http://www.librarything.com/profile/BookishJoJo/stats/workdups
Or you can also assess it when you click on Stats/Memes > Work duplicates (bottom left of the page).

194Booktrovert
Mar 31, 2013, 1:00pm Top

Polymath and Valari, thank you very much!!

i have been looking all over the place for that 'work multiples' page and just couldn't find it. I really appreciate your help!

195bunwat
Mar 31, 2013, 1:23pm Top

So many thanks to everyone who is being so helpful, it really is making me feel a little bit less lost.

196PMaranci
Edited: Mar 31, 2013, 1:34pm Top

Another refugee here. I have to admit that I'm feeling rather lost. Is there a guide of some sort for Goodreads expatriates?

Some of my reviews don't seem to have come in, although all of my books have (and yes, I'm certainly over 200). Unfortunately for me I got my LT account a while ago, so I don't qualify for the free year.

I was feeling quite bitter, but a post on Goodreads by - ironically - a "deleted user" convinced me to try to take a more positive approach to all this. I'll never trust ANY single site with my writing ever again, and I will continue to hope and look for some sort of solution that will allow communities to exist and succeed without the risk of being consumed by corporate monoliths. But I know that bitterness won't help.

That said, I started a community over on Google Plus. It's called "Escaping Amazon". It's for Goodreads refugees who are looking for a new home for their book reviews, and for anyone who's looking for alternatives to shopping with Amazon.com. Anyone can join.

It's at https://plus.google.com/communities/101902216461396504043

197stellarexplorer
Mar 31, 2013, 1:36pm Top

This refugee metaphor/reality has captivated me for the last days. As I read the threads and see new profiles going up, the attempts to understand a new place, the seeking out of friends from the Old World, I can't help but be reminded of my ancestors -- maybe most people's ancestors at some point -- coming to a new country, trying to find a secure place, learning the language.

Happy to help in any way --

198the_red_shoes
Mar 31, 2013, 1:42pm Top

'LT doesn't auto-populate tags because Tim doesn't like the way that constrains choices - he wants tagging to be more spur of the moment (actually, there's a better in- word that I'm forgetting, not impulsive, but similar).'

That's actually frustrating for me because I have a lot of tags, but I can't see them all at once, and I know there are a lot of duplicates or similarly phrased tags and I want to get rid of those.

199the_red_shoes
Mar 31, 2013, 1:44pm Top

Yeah, except "duplicates" also includes different translations of the same work. I've always disliked that. :-/

200keristars
Edited: Mar 31, 2013, 3:18pm Top

198> Check here:
http://www.librarything.com/tags/the_red_shoes

It won't make it easy to add a bunch of tags to books, but it will assist with clean-up.

201macsbrains
Mar 31, 2013, 1:52pm Top

>198 the_red_shoes: Do you know about Tag View? You can see a list of all your tags by clicking the Tags button at the top of your library. (The buttons are Collections, List, Covers, Tags, Authors, Styles ABCDE). The tags are alphabetical by collection.

202rebeccanyc
Mar 31, 2013, 1:58pm Top

198, 201 And if you correct a tag from Tag view (by mousing over it and selecting Edit), it will automatically change all the places where you used it to the correct one. That is, if like me, you sometimes type "fction" instead of fiction, if you edit "fction" to "fiction" it will make that change throughout your library (make sure you've selected "All Collections" from the drop-down list at the left) and delete the now-duplicate entry in your tag list.

203hailelib
Mar 31, 2013, 1:58pm Top

When looking at your catalog there is a page that will list all your tags. In the bar containing icons to change the view of your catalog there is one labeled tags. Click on it and all your tags will be listed. I use this page to correct misspelled or otherwise not-quite-right tags. When you edit a tag there the edit applies to all the books you use the tag on.

204jbd1
Mar 31, 2013, 2:20pm Top

>198 the_red_shoes: - Try at http://www.librarything.com/tags/the_red_shoes - that'll show you all your tags - you can edit them there too if you like.

205macsbrains
Edited: Mar 31, 2013, 2:23pm Top

>202 rebeccanyc:-3-4 I have to edit my tags this way all the time because I use some ridiculously long tags and would otherwise end up with dozens of capitalization errors.

206AnnieMod
Mar 31, 2013, 3:10pm Top

>199 the_red_shoes:

But a translation is the same work. Plus it is easy to see which ones are this kind of duplicates and which ones are real duplicates :)

207keristars
Mar 31, 2013, 3:17pm Top

204> Whoops, thanks for the better link! I forgot that the URL didn't change when you switch to tag view.

208MarthaJeanne
Mar 31, 2013, 3:18pm Top

I find it very useful to have a list of the books I have in different versions, be it German/English, ot early edition/working copy, whatever.

That list is also useful for seeing where different volumes have gotten combined together by mistake.

And occasionally there are 'real duplicates'. Most people's libraries won't have such a long list that seeing the different types is a problem.

When entering there is a red notice that you already have a copy of that ISBN.

209brightcopy
Mar 31, 2013, 3:53pm Top

Now's probably a good time to point new GR folks at the Hacking LibraryThing group. Well, actually about 200 messages ago would have been a good time...

http://www.librarything.com/groups/hackinglibrarything

There you can find all sorts of scripts and styles for Greasemonkey and Stylish to help improve LT functionality.

210.Monkey.
Mar 31, 2013, 4:01pm Top

YES, brightcopy's scripts are an amazing help to making LT a little more pleasurable, with those small things Tim doesn't see fit to add in himself ;)

211Collectorator
Mar 31, 2013, 4:12pm Top

Another hearty YES to all the Brightcopy Greasemonkey Scripts!

212Aerrin99
Mar 31, 2013, 5:04pm Top

It occurs to me that for folks that are having issues with date importing: you ought to be able to open your csv file in a program like excel. Most of those programs allow you to change the date format of a column (usually by right clicking the header and choosing format column), thus changing all of them in one fell swoop. And then you could re-save as .csv.

I'd probably try this in a small batch first, but it might save a lot of pain if it works.

213bunwat
Mar 31, 2013, 5:18pm Top

But if I've already imported, am I going to get duplicates if I bring in a new csv file? Or would I need to delete my books and go again? If so, how would I delete my books?

214Aerrin99
Edited: Mar 31, 2013, 5:25pm Top

Yeah, I think you'd get duplicates. You ought to be able to delete books en masse in the power edit (the little lightening bolt in your books).

Might be worth just trying it first with a few without worrying about duplicates. If it works, let me know, I'm interested!

215satyridae
Mar 31, 2013, 5:27pm Top

Hi everyone! I'm a GR refugee too, but I've had a mostly inactive LT account for years. I tried importing my books from GR, and after a day, this is what it says on my Import Books Page:

"Free accounts are limited to 200 books. Upgrade to a paid account and catalog as many as you like. Paid accounts are \$10/year or \$25/lifetime. Upgrade to a paid account.
Your lookup queue has been stopped.

You have 2,785 ISBNs in your lookup queue, including 0 failed and 2,785 active."

My question is, if I pay now, will my import continue? Is that what caused it to be stopped?

Thanks!

216MarthaJeanne
Mar 31, 2013, 5:32pm Top

The queue seems to be very busy right now, and it can only handle so many books at a time. The pay issue should not be the problem, but make sure that Jeremy (jbd1) knows that you are part of the GR crowd so you get the same deal as others are getting.

217jbd1
Mar 31, 2013, 5:33pm Top

>215 satyridae: - You're set for a year (but even without that, your import still should go through, there are just lots of books in the queue at the moment).

218satyridae
Mar 31, 2013, 5:40pm Top

Thanks! I was only worried because it said the queue had been stopped, rather than waiting. Thank you so much for your help. I'm sure I'll have a million more questions.

219jbd1
Mar 31, 2013, 5:42pm Top

>218 satyridae: - At the moment it looks like you've got 925 active in the queue ...

220Charming2020
Mar 31, 2013, 6:51pm Top

I am confused about how to add books. When I am on a book's page and I click "add" it doesn't add that book to my library but takes me to a page where I have to search on amazon or whatever. Is there any way to just add the book whose page I am on?

221JG_IntrovertedReader
Mar 31, 2013, 6:55pm Top

I'll be shameless and ask about being grandfathered in for the free year. I found GR first and haven't spent much time on LT, but it looks like that may be changing.

222keristars
Mar 31, 2013, 7:12pm Top

220> No, you can't add books directly from a work page. You have to go to the Add Books page to do it.

What the button does is populate the Add Books search with the title from the page you are looking at. If there's only one search result, it will auto-add it for you, too, but that's somewhat rare.

223Charming2020
Mar 31, 2013, 7:16pm Top

222: that seems amazingly inconvenient. I want to add the edition I am looking at, not search Amazon until I find a sort of close edition and then change the cover and add the co-authors.

224brightcopy
Mar 31, 2013, 7:25pm Top

#223 by Charming2020> Don't worry, plenty of LTers are in complete agreement. We've went many rounds trying to convince the owner. There's some glimmer of hope that if this ongoing Add Books rewrite ever finishes that this will become easier.

225keristars
Mar 31, 2013, 7:30pm Top

223> What brightcopy said. Also, this is one reason why I just manually add everything. (Well, that and I really enjoy filling out the form every time. It is a strangely satisfying task...but I've always enjoyed cataloguing things and making descriptive lists.)

226Charming2020
Mar 31, 2013, 7:36pm Top

Apparently there is a way to do this with an add-on -
http://www.librarything.com/topic/115928

I'd have to use Firefox, but it might be worth it. It still doesn't copy the cover.

This question will probably come up a lot with people from Goodreads, because there you do add books to your library from the book's page.

227southernbooklady
Mar 31, 2013, 7:54pm Top

>226 Charming2020: because there you do add books to your library from the book's page

Probably that green "add book" button shouldn't even be on a work page, but only on the edition(s) page or specific book page. It isn't usually obvious to people that the record they are looking at is an aggregate of many different actual books.

228JG_IntrovertedReader
Mar 31, 2013, 8:46pm Top

I've imported my books, and that went really quickly. How concerned should I be that only 56 reviews out of 700+ are showing up right now? Is there a delay?

229brightcopy
Mar 31, 2013, 8:52pm Top

#226 by Charming2020> You can also use Chrome if you install the TamperMonkey addon. I could have SWORN I updated the Greasemonkey wiki topic to tell all about this, but apparently I didn't save or something.

Anyway, I've made sure that script works with TamperMonkey on Chrome, as a user reported a problem so I had to look into it.

Unfortunately, there's just now way for me to be able to preserve the cover. :(

230HenriMoreaux
Edited: Mar 31, 2013, 9:06pm Top

Hey all,

Another silly question for you... I've imported my booklist and Michael Crichton's Micro (http://www.librarything.com/work/11375989) has come across as 'Harper (2011), Edition: Reprint, Kindle Edition, 563 pages' I note there is an edition link which lists all the other editions, but how does one go about actually changing the edition they have catalogued in their library?

(Am wishing to swap to Hardcover, 0060873027 (ISBN13: 9780060873028))

231AnnieMod
Mar 31, 2013, 9:11pm Top

Edit your book and change the details :)

232Scorbet
Mar 31, 2013, 9:17pm Top

>230 HenriMoreaux:

You can simply open your book and edit by hand, which is probably the easiest.

(There is actually no edition layer on LT at the moment - no page where all the hardcover are together etc. That "editions" link is more a listing of all the ways that the book is catalogued - separated by each difference ISBN, title, author. It's more a way of making separating wrongly combined books easier.)

233HenriMoreaux
Mar 31, 2013, 9:17pm Top

Oh, that really is rather straight forward isn't it.

I'm used to the GR method where all book records are shared and you choose one of the existing editions or upload a new one where not listed. Any editing there changes the actual underlying book record.

234Scorbet
Mar 31, 2013, 9:20pm Top

>233 HenriMoreaux:

LT philosophy is that your book record is yours and no-one can change that. So no matter what anyone else does the information in your catalogue will not change.

235AnnieMod
Mar 31, 2013, 9:23pm Top

>233 HenriMoreaux:

That is true here only for Common Knowledge fields (the ones you can see on the work page). Anything else is your own catalog and sacred - noone can change it. It is public (except for the private comments) but the only person that can change it is you.

236HenriMoreaux
Mar 31, 2013, 9:25pm Top

234>

Sensible methodology - I've found over at GR occasionally someone comes along and completely changes a record to their edition.

Bit annoying after spending many hours scanning in rare book covers for specific editions to have them deleted for a blurry copy stolen from a book retailer.

Have started adding some of the rarer books now over here on LT, good ole manual editing, I like the url image option for the covers - makes snagging my own scanned covers very easy!

237Murphy-Jacobs
Mar 31, 2013, 9:28pm Top

Oh, I can also see the joy of NOT having annotated editions combined with regular editions (a constant source of irritation).

238HenriMoreaux
Mar 31, 2013, 9:32pm Top

237>

Or the inability for people to understand why a single novel is not the same as an omnibus of two novels and that combining them as one record is A Bad Idea.

I'm wondering how noticeable the abandonment of GR will be to the owners as there's a few hundred thousand users from Australia there and I was the 45th largest librarian contributor of those and they've lost me & all my future database enhancements.

239TnTexas
Mar 31, 2013, 9:36pm Top

The level to which I can customize my own shelves here is something I really appreciate. And to not have to worry that someone will come along and change the covers on me (especially for my backlog of unread ebooks)? Heaven!

240Yvane
Mar 31, 2013, 9:39pm Top

It took me a little while to understand how editions work here on LT but I absolutely LOVE the way that they're handled. A constant source of irritation for me on Goodreads was people coming along and overwriting data, like changing the cover images on UK editions to the US cover art (very common). I was a UK top 20 librarian on my old GR account -- which is now deleted, although I have a newer one I keep mostly for social purposes -- and I can't tell you how much of that was fixing other people's mistakes so my book records weren't wrong.

Ownership of my own book records here? Love, love, love it.

241HenriMoreaux
Mar 31, 2013, 9:40pm Top

239>

The more I'm using LT the more I'm enjoying it's superior organisation methods, it's just a bit of a contrast going from the shiny 'web 2.0' GR interface to the more data orientated interface of LT.

I think the only thing I'm really going to miss is the GR stats page which doesn't have an equivalent over here (books & pages read per year, books read: original publication date vs read date) if it that this it would be totally perfect.

242_Jennifer
Mar 31, 2013, 9:57pm Top

Is there a way to change my profile name? I sort of misunderstood at signup, or just had a mental blank, but I'd like to change from jenn.evans to ❂ Jennifer if possible?

243keristars
Mar 31, 2013, 9:59pm Top

I don't think characters outside of the basic ASCII alphabet/numbers and .-_ are permitted in LT usernames. (is _ even allowed?)

244HenriMoreaux
Mar 31, 2013, 10:01pm Top

242>

I found this whilst browsing around earlier, you can request a username change here:

http://www.librarything.com/editprofile/change

245_Zoe_
Mar 31, 2013, 10:01pm Top

246southernbooklady
Mar 31, 2013, 10:01pm Top

>242 _Jennifer: You can request a new username by going to your profile, then clicking on the edit profile link on the right, and then on the "change" link in the left menu. I don't know about special characters, though, since your profile name ends up in URLs for your catalog, etc.

247_Jennifer
Mar 31, 2013, 10:05pm Top

Thanks everyone for the instant replies! :)

248bunwat
Mar 31, 2013, 10:17pm Top

I know that _ is allowed because I've seen some friends who have it.

249_Jennifer
Mar 31, 2013, 10:26pm Top

My ❂ definitely isn't allowed, which is fine. I went with _Jennifer. Just wanted to dump the last name. :)

250keristars
Mar 31, 2013, 10:43pm Top

245> Ha! Clearly, I read your name as Zoë without the underscores automatically. I honestly couldn't remember seeing a specific person using them when I posted the response, though it niggled at me.

251Quaisior
Mar 31, 2013, 10:44pm Top

Welcome to all the Goodreads newbies. I'm on both sites, but I prefer LibraryThing for cataloging my whole collection and Goodreads for keeping track of the books I've actually read. I'm not sure yet if I will keep the Goodreads account or not, but I can see why others have left. I hope you all like it here. I've been through a few cataloging changes and book site closures, so I know how it is to have to learn a new site.

252Scorbet
Mar 31, 2013, 11:09pm Top

>236 HenriMoreaux:

There are disadvantages though - no one else being able to change your data does naturally mean that you have to do all maintenance yourself - e.g. removal of "Amazonian cruft" like series as part of the title field, fixing case in title, ensuring that all the edition data is correct... (all depending on your own sensibilities of course.)

One exception is covers (sort of) - if you are using member-uploaded covers there's no problem, but if you have covers from Amazon, they may change. The Amazon cover is connected to the ISBN of the book and is pulled from Amazon each time. If the publisher decides to put out a new cover, your cover will also change to this new one.

The work page (the combined version) can be cleaned up in several ways by anyone (using canonical title, for example), but again your data is not affected.

>237 Murphy-Jacobs:/238

Both of these can happen here too unfortunately via combining. Some people don't seem to understand that A+B is different to A and/or B. But these can be uncombined once more, and anyway don't affect your data - just the overall work data. (And you indirectly via number of members and recommendations, etc.)

253Yvane
Mar 31, 2013, 11:12pm Top

>252 Scorbet: Thank you for the warning about Amazonian covers. I'm adding my books by hand (I deleted my GR data some time back) so I will make sure to select user covers as I'm going through.

254bunwat
Mar 31, 2013, 11:28pm Top

Yeah that's a good thing to know!

255bongo_x
Apr 1, 2013, 12:35am Top

Hmmm…my library now says;

"SELECT count(1) AS count FROM workalias LEFT JOIN bookstack ON wa_fullcode = books_sameness_resolved WHERE wa_workcode = AND books_usernum = 0 You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'AND books_usernum = 0' at line 5"

and there’s nothing in it.

256Scorbet
Apr 1, 2013, 12:46am Top

>253 Yvane:/254

Forgot to mention the other Amazon cover issue - if you choose an Amazon cover (as opposed to the system choosing one for you based on your ISBN), your ISBN may be changed. The same cover may be used for different editions of a book, e.g. paperback & hardback or ebook, etc. If you have a paperback with paperback ISBN and happen to choose the Amazon cover corresponding to the hardback, it will change your ISBN to match. (There is a warning about this!)

257Yvane
Apr 1, 2013, 12:54am Top

>256 Scorbet: Oh, I'm so glad you mentioned that. Since I frequently looks things up by ISBN, that would be frustrating.

258brightcopy
Edited: Apr 1, 2013, 1:00am Top

Anyone(s) want to volunteer to make a "GoodReads Refugee Guide" wiki? Lots of little nuggets like "OverCat is the best source to try first" and "choosing Amazon covers will potentially cause problems" and "your catalog entry in LT is your own and isn't shared like in GR" could be pulled together. These threads just get keep getting longer and longer and I don't see most GRRs wading through them all.

259DeanMacAllister
Apr 1, 2013, 12:59am Top

Hey Bunwat! Mwahaha!

260Scorbet
Apr 1, 2013, 2:09am Top

>258 brightcopy:

I'm willing to help out, but I'm not really familiar enough with Goodreads to do a proper comparison.

261timspalding
Apr 1, 2013, 2:41am Top

I suggest this get continued—maybe splitting it up somehow. I tend to think 200 is a good limit, for people on modems or mobile.

262Kiwiria
Apr 1, 2013, 3:44am Top

I've just done a test import and it looks like neither ratings nor reviews have imported - just the books themselves. What am I doing wrong?

263timspalding
Apr 1, 2013, 4:25am Top

I've extended the free-account time. We'll decide tomorrow how long to make it go.

264Vivl
Apr 1, 2013, 6:53am Top

>176 MarthaJeanne: Thanks MarthaJeanne. I tried OverCat, so it looks as though I'll have to go manual. Not a problem, as I feel as though the more I tinker the more I'll get to know the site.

265Scorbet
Apr 1, 2013, 6:56am Top

>264 Vivl:

Did you check the book within the database to see where the other member added it from? (Of course, they have added a different edition and just changed the data to match their copy, which is another option.)

266Vivl
Apr 1, 2013, 6:56am Top

>182 Helenliz: Hi Helenliz, I had a few "failed" books and found most of them by plugging the ISBN into various different sources. If you pull up the full 700+ sources you might be able to figure out the most appropriate one. I think in my case the failures were all Australian publications and I eventually tracked most of them down. I think I had to add one manually, even though a few other readers already have the same edition (with the same ISBN) listed here.

267Vivl
Apr 1, 2013, 7:08am Top

>265 Scorbet:

I didn't think of that. Thanks for the tip. I must admit the while a site about books being wordy makes an awful lot of sense I'm a little overwhelmed at the moment and am sure I'll overlook the bleeding obvious for a while yet!

268.Monkey.
Apr 1, 2013, 7:15am Top

>267 Vivl: Don't worry, most of us did the same at the beginning! It's a change, and there's lots of "hidden" stuff, so it takes a bit of getting used to!

269rebeccanyc
Apr 1, 2013, 7:20am Top

For the people who like GR for keeping track of the books they read, here's what I do. I set up a collection for the year (i.e., this year's is Read in 2013). Then when I finish the book, I enter the date finished in the Date Finished field (I have this showing in my preferred catalog view, but it's also near the bottom of the Edit Your Book page) and move the book from Currently Reading to Read in 2013. When I look at my Read in 2013 collection and sort my catalog by Date Finished, I can see the books I've read in order and the total number shows as the number of books in my collection.

I should add that if you enter the date you start a book in Date Started, I'm pretty sure LT automatically puts the book into your Currently Reading collection, but I don't bother with that and do it by hand.

270Bookmarque
Apr 1, 2013, 7:24am Top

I do something similar, rebeccanyc, except I use tags. When I enter a new book I tag it as unread, when I finish it, I change unread to the year. I also use dates started and stopped in hopes that someday (clasps hands and rolls eyes Portland-ward), it will be useful and maybe even graphical.

271MarthaJeanne
Edited: Apr 1, 2013, 7:31am Top

269>'I should add that if you enter the date you start a book in Date Started, I'm pretty sure LT automatically puts the book into your Currently Reading collection'

I don't think it does. (Just checked. Nope. It doesn't) There were a lot of to and fros when it was introduced. In the end part of it was that people have very different opinions as to how long/ how many books should stay in Currently Reading. Someone who reads a book a month has different needs from someone who reads a book a day.

272.Monkey.
Apr 1, 2013, 7:40am Top

Yeah like MarthaJeanne said, it doesn't add it in automatically.

I do like Bookmarque (only w/o tagging "unread," I have collections of "read" "read & owned" "read but unowned" and "unread but owned" for that), tagging the year read. I think collections for that would get unwieldy, I prefer keeping them simpler for the big basic groupings.

273HereWithoutYou
Apr 1, 2013, 8:05am Top

And another one of those GR refugees here :)

After testing 4 or 5 different social networks centered around books, this one seems to give me the most possibilities, although it also seems to be the most complicated one or maybe complex is a better word. All in all, I'm glad to be here though and look forward to exploring more.

So, hi everyone!

274.Monkey.
Apr 1, 2013, 8:20am Top

>273 HereWithoutYou: It's a little more complex in some respects, that's true, but it also gives you a lot more! :)

275jbd1
Apr 1, 2013, 8:26am Top

>255 bongo_x: - This should be all fixed now, see http://www.librarything.com/topic/152200

276Akubra
Edited: Apr 1, 2013, 9:52am Top

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277AbigailAdams26
Apr 1, 2013, 9:57am Top

First, thank you for the welcome! I'm a goodreads refugee, and trying to find my way around. Forgive me if this has been asked and answered, but here goes:

Rather than import, I'm adding all my books manually. I have well over 200! Will I have to pay when I reach the 200 mark? If so, how much?

Also, I'm confused about my book numbers! On my profile page, the "all collections" lists 117, but on the "your books" page it lists 115. The last book I entered last night isn't showing up on the "your books" page, even though, when I first logged in it showed up as a recent update. Also, when I go to the book page itself, it shows as being in my collection. What gives?!

Thank you for any help!

Abigail

278Scorbet
Apr 1, 2013, 10:02am Top

>277 AbigailAdams26:

LT is currently giving free 1 year membership to all new members - so you don't have to do anything for a year.

Regarding the number of books, sometimes the database can get out of whack - try doing a search as that will reindex your books and may locate the last few!

ALL

This topic has been continued in another thread as it is too long- please follow the link below to post in the new one.

Thanks :-)

279jbd1
Apr 1, 2013, 10:06am Top

>277 AbigailAdams26: Also, we're seeing a few other reports of book counts being slightly out of whack this morning - we're on the case!

280lilithcat
Apr 1, 2013, 10:20am Top

> 279

Jeremy, could you change the subject line of the continuation topic: http://www.librarything.com/topic/152224 to reflect that it's Part 2? Thanks.

281AbigailAdams26
Edited: Apr 1, 2013, 2:54pm Top

OK, thanks! Will comment from now on in the next thread!

For what it's worth: the missing two books do show up on the list of books I added, when I go to the Add Books page. So they're in there somewhere!

282SqueakyChu
Apr 1, 2013, 10:45am Top

> 271 I should add that if you enter the date you start a book in Date Started, I'm pretty sure LT automatically puts the book into your Currently Reading collection

It does automatically go to the "Currently Reading" slot at the bottom of your profile page.

283h-mb
Apr 1, 2013, 2:40pm Top

>97 Bookmarque: That's great! I came to LT in 2007 and never noticed (or forgot) the sections could be moved! Thanks!

284Lauren2013
Apr 1, 2013, 4:03pm Top

Hi everyone, another Goodreads refugee here.
Have a question about the collection names (hope it hasn't already been answered somewhere in this thread). Is there a way to change the default collection name from "read but unowned" to simply "read"? If not, is there a way to delete the "read but unowned"?
Thanks!

285.Monkey.
Apr 1, 2013, 4:12pm Top

>284 by Lauren2013, The default collections are like the GR "exclusive" shelves in that they're there for good and un-editable. But if you edit collections, you can simply turn them off. Make them inactive, and then they'll just sit there hidden & unused. And you can make your own and call them whatever you like.

286Lauren2013
Apr 1, 2013, 4:21pm Top

Thanks PolymathicMonkey. That is exactly what I wanted to do.

287jjwilson61
Apr 1, 2013, 6:26pm Top

If you don't use the system standard collections though, you won't get different colors on the checkmarks that show up in various pages of the site that let you know that you have that book/work and what collection it's in. You'll just get the grey checkmark that means it's in an other collection.

288Petra.Xs
Edited: Apr 1, 2013, 11:32pm Top

Posted in the wrong place.

289mossjon
Apr 2, 2013, 9:30am Top

Very disappointed in the import process from my GoodReads export. Of 1,500 books, over 600 were left in the dust and of the 800 plus that were imported, most of them were stripped of my tags (aka shelves). Unless there is a way to scrap this import and try again, I will not be retagging my books here at LibraryThing. I've done it once and it's a waste of my time to repeat the process.

290Aerrin99
Apr 2, 2013, 10:55am Top

> 289 You can delete all your books at once using the power edit (lightening icon) in 'Your Books', if you want to try again.

291ccatalfo
Edited: Apr 2, 2013, 11:28am Top

> 289

I'm so sorry you had trouble. Did you upload a file (we don't seem to have a file recorded for you, unfortunately)? With a file we could investigate exactly what went wrong and fix it. If you upload one I can take a look.

We're about to push out a couple of improvements in how we import tags (and reviews) which hopefully will help, if you're willing to delete your books as suggested in > 290 and try once again.

I'll post back here when we push out the changes.

292ccatalfo
Apr 2, 2013, 1:02pm Top

> 289

We just pushed out new import code to handle importing and syncing of ratings, reviews, tags and "date read" from Goodreads.

If you delete your books and re-import, with any luck it will work for you this time.

293bunwat
Apr 2, 2013, 1:04pm Top

Thank you!!!

294jjwilson61
Apr 2, 2013, 4:19pm Top

In another thread there was mention of a sync option for import. Does that mean that the step of deleting the previously imported records can be skipped?

295Dzerzhinsky
Apr 2, 2013, 4:22pm Top

Huzzah! Thanks for the hearty welcome!

296topcat21
Edited: Apr 3, 2013, 4:59pm Top

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297Dzerzhinsky
Edited: Apr 9, 2013, 11:39am Top

Sync between GR and LT would be great; because right now I'm having to update books on two sites. I havent completely left GR because I dont know what the Amazon changes will be or what date they will take effect. So over the last few days I added a few more books, and now when I am looking at my LT library I don't immediately recall what the titles were. I could do another csv export but..not even sure what effect that would have.

Of course, it goes without saying that while I like the concept of 'sync' it does not mean I want anything from my GR profile 'synced' with Amazon. That's a horse of another color!

p.s. if my question has been asked/answered above, just tell me to scroll up. I usually jump to the last post in any thread. Y'all are some talkative people! :D

298Roobee1
Apr 25, 2013, 5:56pm Top

As shelves in GR don't seem to map to collections in LT, is there a way of adding a group of books found by search (ie all those tagged to-read) to a collection (to read)...etc...?
Sorry if I'm being dim, very newly-minted newbie!

299jjwilson61
Apr 25, 2013, 6:00pm Top

If you mean a search in your library (as opposed to a site-wide search) then yes. Click on the lightning bolt at the top to get into Power Edit and you should be able to figure it out).

300Roobee1
Apr 25, 2013, 6:02pm Top

Thank you!

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