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Combining 'People/Characters' etc. in CK

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1Cynfelyn
Jan 8, 2015, 6:21pm Top

We can combine tags, including different language versions of the same tag, e.g. London (English), Llundain (Welsh), Londres (Spanish).

Would it be possible to have the same sort of voting system on combining 'People/Characters', 'Important places' and 'Important events' in CK? For example:

Gerallt Gymro, Gerald of Wales and Giraldus Cambrensis is the same person in Welsh, English and Latin, each with their own list of works.

Deutschland (125 works), Germany (1055 works) and Allemagne (5 works) are the same place.

And the Winter War (33 works), Talvisota (2 works) and Finska vinterkriget (10 works) are all the same event.

2jjwilson61
Jan 8, 2015, 7:02pm Top

I doubt it. CK was implemented using a wiki software library that made it easy to implement but not so easy to modify.

3gilroy
Jan 9, 2015, 7:13am Top

The difficulty I see is the arguments over combining these things.

As a For instance: The American Civil War is also called the War Between the States, depending on where you live or how you're taught. Would they be combine-able or not? Some would say yes, others no, even with the exact same books.

4Cynfelyn
Edited: Jan 9, 2015, 11:58am Top

>3 gilroy: They're both already used as separate tags, The American Civil War (used 20,588 times by 2,248 members) and War Between the States (424 times by 80 members).

There's nothing to stop anyone putting these tags up for combination, and anyone else voting for or against. I'm suggesting having the same opportunity in CK events.

5lesmel
Jan 9, 2015, 12:00pm Top

>4 Cynfelyn: Not to mention the 9+ other variations of The American Civil War which also seem to be tags on the site.

6Cynfelyn
Jan 9, 2015, 12:22pm Top

>5 lesmel: I make it nearer 200 variant tags that have been combined under American Civil War:

"Tag: American Civil War

"Includes: american civil war, 'american civil war', civil war: us, #22 american civil war, civil war (usa), united states--civil war, amerikanischer bürgerkrieg, usa - civil war, civil war (american), warcivil war us, civil war--american, den amerikanske borgerkrig, civil war 1861-1865, uscivilwar, ameican civil war, united states - civil war 1861-1865, amercian civil war, americn civil war, usa civil war, united states- civil war, "american civil war", americancivil war, civil war - american, civil war-american, american civil war (1861-1864), american civil war 1861 - 1865 — 169 more"

plus translations into a further 26 languages being used on LT's non-English language sites.

7lesmel
Edited: Jan 9, 2015, 1:30pm Top

>6 Cynfelyn: I was only considering variants not already combined, like The War of Northern Aggression, The War of Southern Aggression, The Brothers' War, War of the Rebellion, etc. I never thought to look for those variants until I looked at Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_the_American_Civil_War.

8Collectorator
Jan 9, 2015, 7:49pm Top

http://www.librarything.com/topic/103966
This old thread may be of interest.

9southernbooklady
Jan 10, 2015, 1:59pm Top

>5 lesmel:, >6 Cynfelyn:, >7 lesmel: Not to mention the 9+ other variations of The American Civil War which also seem to be tags on the site.

I believe the officially sanctioned term for the American Civil War is "The Late Unpleasantness."

10Cynfelyn
Jan 2, 3:00pm Top

First time round discussion got bogged down with the American Civil War. Even if 'Important events' are too difficult, I still think the ability to suggest and vote on combining 'People/Characters' and 'Important places' would be valuable.

Collectorator (#8) highlighted http://www.librarything.com/topic/103966, where Tim said "Deferring. What we need to do is start differentiating between translateable and untranslateable CK". I would suggest by letting the interested members vote.

As Collectorator pointed out, it's not just translations, but also the likes of Haïti and Haiti.

So, bump.

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