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1clareborn
Sep 1, 2007, 10:09am Top

I haven't been able to find anything on this while searching; sorry if I'm bringing it up for the gazillionth time.

This ISBN: 917707128X

Make-a-mix cookery, AND a Swedish book on painting portraits in oil. I got the latter ISBN from LIBRIS, so it's hardly wrong. What to do?

2GreyHead
Sep 1, 2007, 10:17am Top

Well, Google only finds the latter and 91nnnnnnnn is a Swedish ISBN so that looks like the correct one.

3clareborn
Sep 1, 2007, 10:29am Top

Oh, good. Should I do something about the other one?

4sabreuse
Edited: Sep 1, 2007, 10:37am Top

There was one copy of a book that (if I'm not mistranslating) looked like a Swedish book on portrait painting mistakenly combined with the cookbooks -- I've separated them now, although some cached pages may take a little time to catch up.

Here: http://www.librarything.com/work-info/3821944

5clareborn
Sep 1, 2007, 1:17pm Top

Well done! Thank you.

6clareborn
Sep 1, 2007, 2:50pm Top

Okay - I have another question.

This book:

http://www.librarything.com/work-info.php?book=18862473

Wrong cover altogether. It's not another edition - it's not even the same book. Can I do something to get that cover removed entirely? Or don't we do that?

7GreyHead
Edited: Sep 1, 2007, 5:44pm Top

Looks as though the cover may be user provided, you can always add this one to your version.

8clareborn
Sep 1, 2007, 5:01pm Top

I've been looking for that for ages (well, minutes, at least), thanks a bunch!

9slothman
Sep 5, 2007, 2:53am Top

There are plenty of cases of different works sharing an ISBN. Hero Games in particular had that happen a lot when they were really strapped for cash and couldn't afford to get one per book; I remember this annoying the employees at my local game store.

10clareborn
Sep 5, 2007, 5:19am Top

slothman: I didn't think it was possible with different publishing houses.

11GreyHead
Sep 5, 2007, 6:06am Top

In the case quoted here it's almost certainly a mistaken entry in some system somewhere as the countries are different. The most common re-uses are publications like '100 famous books' where all 100 use the same series ISBN, after that re-use by the same publishing house or group, older short form ISBNs with mistaken prefixes applied, and plain old human error.

12clareborn
Sep 5, 2007, 7:05am Top

GreyHead: I'm still so happy you found the cover for me.

13slothman
Sep 10, 2007, 12:10am Top

I think you'll still wind up in the same publishing house on an ISBN collision, but that can wind up with a radically different book if the house is diverse. I had a bunch of weird collisions when I entered some of the more obscure books in my library (I think it was the section on shinto).

14CharlesFerdinand
Edited: Sep 16, 2007, 6:34am Top

I have the same problem. When I entered the book Vesting Antwerpen, Deel 2: De Pantservesting 1885-1914 by Robert Gils, a cover of a book about the Iltis jeep of the Belgian Army appeared. I took the ISBN number from the book itself. What do I do?

15slothman
Sep 17, 2007, 1:58am Top

Enter the book data manually, including the ISBN. LibraryThing should be able to keep multiple works with the same ISBN, though I don't know if there's a way to tell it to never suggest them for combination.

16skittles
Sep 17, 2007, 6:42am Top

to keep books from being combined (incorrectly) I've been using a "work-type" username and posted a couple of books as

On the Road with Jones & Smith (DON'T combine with Jones or Smith) by Mark Smith

and combined it with the book that is "wrong" (in my opinion), while separating that single work from other books. I've also sent PMs to the owners of the work, suggesting that they fix the incorrect data (usually from Amazon, or mistyping)... most are graciously cooperative.

see this work:

http://www.librarything.com/work-info.php?book=20777687

17CharlesFerdinand
Sep 17, 2007, 3:43pm Top

Well, I have entered the book manually. It is in Dutch, by a very small publisher, specialised in Belgian military subjects, and I'm the only one on LibraryThing who has it. Yet, next time I looked, the system had mysteriously added the cover of the book about the Iltis jeep in Belgian service. Most likely, this is from the same publisher. Yet it is not the same book at all.

18clareborn
Sep 17, 2007, 3:48pm Top

CharlesFerdinand: Sometimes those pesky small publishers do recycle their ISBNs, so it's hardly wrong. Have you, yourself, added a cover to your book?

19CharlesFerdinand
Sep 18, 2007, 3:52pm Top

Nope, I haven't. I haven't got a scanner here either. Should I?

20clareborn
Edited: Sep 18, 2007, 5:20pm Top

I think I solved the problem by adding a cover of my own (the one kindly provided by GreyHead above). That way the errant cover disappeared from my library.

21vpfluke
Sep 19, 2007, 12:45pm Top

When I find multiple works with the same ISBN # in the Amazon listing, I then go to Amazon.uk and see if that result is clean, then to Library of Congress. Most other sites don't seem to handle ISBN #'s.

I biggest problem was putting books printed in the 1960's from book clubs, no ISBN's were used then, no LC number, and the works are very common.

22tinker276
Jul 7, 2012, 4:00pm Top

Once again two very different books same ISBN

Frank Yerby and The Long Haired Girl

The Covers are easy enough to fix, but the data is clearly all over the place.

http://www.librarything.com/work/3843830/summary/87453610

23vpfluke
Jul 7, 2012, 6:06pm Top

I fiddled with combining. Probably the publisher (Dial Press) re-used the ISBn, if indeed both books were from the same publisher. So, I did a bit of recombining, but I don't know that one can correct wrong ISBN's. So, hopefully the two books are ok.

24tjsjohanna
Jul 7, 2012, 9:17pm Top

Just a note about covers - if Amazon has a cover associated with an isbn, that cover is going to show up with the work - whether it is correct or not. I'm not sure if the new cover flagging system can fix that or not (I haven't been following that discussion).

25BarkingMatt
Jul 8, 2012, 3:43am Top

Alas. So far we can't flag amazon provided covers (even as inappropriate to work).

I did now flag that cover mentioned in #6 though.

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