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It's that time of year again! This is our NINTH Annual SantaThing, and we're all so excited!
Check out the blog for full details.
The main SantaThing page lives here: http://www.librarything.com/santathing.php
SantaThing sign-ups and book-picking are closed. Currently, LT staff elves are working on place all your SantaThing orders! Staff members will be posting in this thread with requests for suggestions for extra books for Santees. You can continue to make suggestions by leaving comments on SantaThing profiles.
See the SantaThing Help page, for details like store shipping deadlines and exchange rates.
ETA: Every year, amazing LT-ers come out of the woodwork and give generously to each other through SantaThing. This year was no exception. Hats off to LT member ladylenneth for running an amazing Donations thread this year.
Any questions? Post them in this thread, see the SantaThing Help page, or email me directly at email@example.com.
Have your SantaThing books arrived? Let us know!
How'd SantaThing go for you this year? Leave us some feedback and tell us about it.
>2 Jenni_Canuck: It lies/I jumped the gun. All set now and open for signups!
So excited! Please let me know if there's anything I can do to help with the behind-the-scenes. Enjoy the magic, everyone!
Our yearly donation thread is open! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQqwG_rQx7A
>10 mellymel171328: Thanks so much! I updated the initial post (and am updating the blog post) to include the link to the donation thread.
I'm getting a weird error message when I try to edit my info for SantaThing.
It happened on my account and my niece's. I redacted my home address. ;)
>12 leahbird: Yikes, sorry about that. Mike's looking into it. Give us a few?
>12 leahbird: should be good now. let me know if you are still having issues.
I usually make a careful note of my confirmation number from paypal and then sign up right away.
This year, I was distracted and accidentally closed that page with the transaction number, which put me into a mini-panic. Not to worry, the email from paypal includes the transaction confirmation number that we need to sign up.
I've been doing this most of the 9 years. You'd think I'd remember this stuff.
>12 leahbird: hattie_lou is Mike's super-secret alias. Just in case you're looking for a post with the staff icon saying it's been fixed, here it is. All taken care of!
I filled out application all except home address. While typing that, I managed to hit a key combination that made pg disappear. Do you have? I don't want to show up twice on the list. Must I start all over? Can I edit to complete w/ address info, etc.? If you can let me know my status with Santa, I'll take it from there.
Sorry, I must have forgotten to sign out on my phone. I used to be humblewomble but I'm now thebookmagpie!
>19 Limelite: Sorry for the delayed response! You should be able to edit that information, still, if you clicked "Save" at any point. I'm seeing a complete entry for you in our database at the moment. You can see and edit your SantaThing profile by clicking the "Edit" link next to your SantaThing entry (which appears under "Your SantaThings" over on the SantaThing page).
Feel free to message me directly if you want me to verify things like your selected store/price point.
As soon as I got my PM, I signed up.
Well, I'm not sure how many years I've done SantaThing (Not 9 for sure) But I thought that those members who have
participated a certain number of years (about my number or better?) should, NO I DEMAND MUST be awarded a glittery and bling medal/badge.
>22 lorannen: I have a question. It says "Amazon.com: Orders $35 will get exactly what they pay in books.". What if the order is "= $35", does that fall with the less than or the more than camp?
>24 bestem: Amazon ships for free with $35 and over. If you're asking if they need to be 35.00 or 35.01, it's the former, just like the statement says. ;)
>24 bestem: I can see how this is a bit confusing, and will amend the SantaThing wiki. >27 .Monkey.: is correct—in order to get free shipping on Amazon, the order has to total $35.00 or more. I was using Amazon's stated amounts, rather than SantaThing price points.
The way SantaThing budgeting works, we ask Santas to pick books up to the amount their Santee has paid in, without going over. Which means that if you sign up for SantaThing at the $35 mark, LibraryThing holds $5 from your SantaThing budget to cover shipping costs. This hasn't changed from last year.
I'm updating the SantaThing wiki so that it indicates signing up at the $40 mark or above will get you free shipping, rather than having this weird $35.00 gap (and fixing the other price point designations on that page while I'm at it).
Assuming this isn't open to non-US Santas?
Edit: ignore! Just seen the answer on the Wiki page.
Am temped to join again since "kindle only" has been introduced. My kindle is registered at and I buy from amazon.com, but I live outside the US and have to pay local VAT. Who is responsible for paying the VAT?
>30 Pears: VAT will come from your SantaThing budget (the amount you paid in). LT staffers place each order by hand, to make sure your Santa isn't too much over or under-budget.
How do I access last year's SantaThing? I'd like to take a look at my descriptions for what I said in the "tastes", "don't get me this" and "other notes" fields and maybe copy it over.
Hmmm... I missed this last year... must sign up this year... feeling bad for whoever gets me already... hehehehehe
How can I edit my preferences for SantaThing? I left them blank when I signed up because I wasn't sure what to put, and now I can't figure out if there's a way to add them. Thank you!
Thanks, no problem. I just redid and everything worked fine. Appreciate the suggestions!
I enjoyed this last year and have been debating about doing it again (I'd like to, I'm just thinking of the cost!).
Question, though - I saw in the newsletter that came to my email that we would know who we choose for on a Tuesday, but we only have till the Friday of that same week to get our choices in? I have much more time for this kind of thing on the weekends, so I'd love to have at least one weekend day to work on it.
I don't see the deadline it has to be in listed here, so I wanted to double check. Thanks!
ETA: OK, looking at the blog now. I see that that is the case. 5pm EST Friday is the deadline, which for me means 3pm Friday, which really means Thursday evening, which really means Wednesday evening, as I'm busy on Thursdays and work M-F during the day. Hmmm, now I guess the decision for me is whether or not I think I'll have time to get it done.
My 2 cents is also that the window to "sign up" is a bit on the long side, and the window to pick books is a bit on the short side. We get nearly two weeks to make a decision on whether or not to sign up but only 4 days to actually think about and pick books...
>39 crazybatcow: I certainly appreciate the feedback, and understand your concern. SantaThing is always a lot of juggling of various deadlines—actual holidays themselves and bookseller holiday shipping deadlines among them. Last year I had a number of folks reach out to me after sign-ups closed, expressing that they missed out. We're trying to remedy that situation this year.
The Friday evening deadline for picking books is really in place to ensure that I have plenty of time to get orders compiled and out to a couple of our booksellers by the following Monday morning. Those of you who've done SantaThing before will remember that, immediately following the book-picking deadline, we have to leave room for last-minute Santas picking books for orphaned Santees.
I don't want anyone to be left out (like >38 LibraryCin:) for fear of not having enough picking time, of course. Rest assured, if you do run out of time, your Santee will still be taken care of.
>39 crazybatcow: I agree also. When looking at the deadlines for BookDepository (shipped from UK), the for most parts of the world the ordering deadline has expired already, when picking date here closes.
Christmas is a crazy time for all involved, in many different ways. If you count back from the first closing date mentioned for an online shop (say December 4th, like mentioned at TheBookDepository) and take for example 10 days for deciding whether to sign up or not, 3 days ttopair the participants, 10 days to pick books and 2 days to actually place the orders, then Santa Thing should be opened 25 days prior to December 4th, making it possible to do all at a much less stressy pace.
Better for you at LT staff, better for participants when picking books and the chance that gifts actually arrive in time is also bigger.
Yeah I think next year it really ought to start sooner so there isn't that rush. Longer signup window is good but, the rest needs to be taken into account as well.
I have to agree with the requested change in time to pick books next year. It's a very limited time and I usually find myself paired up with someone who doesn't read the same sort of thing as me which means I need some time to research what to buy. I would really appreciate a couple more days including at least one weekend day if it were possible to arrange in future.
But on a positive note - I love Santa Thing so thank you so much for all the work put in to keep it running - it's an amazing thing to do.
I'd love to sign up for SantaThing, but I'm a bit worried about picking books for someone else if they have very different tastes to me. Do lots of people chip in with suggestions? (I know I had a look through last year and suggested for a couple of people, but I never thought to see how many people were willing to help with ideas). I'd hate for someone else to end up loathing whatever I'd picked! Makes me quite nervous!
>45 Peace2: Yes, by the time that you will need to pick books, most people will have multiple suggestions. and the LT staff are good at picking Santees. I've only had one year where I felt that choosing books was a bit of a stretch for me. And there are always people waiting to help if you get stuck - in the very worst case, if you get stuck, a volunteer will choose the books for you.
I'd encourage you to give it a go.
>45 Peace2: That is also my experience. I had someone with very different taste from mine only once, and that time I think I managed to find books by making use of user suggestions, LT 'what others should borrow from you', and 'people who liked this also liked...', both on LT and on a book site. It became quite a project!
Okay, I signed up. This is my very first Santa Thing, and I'm looking forward to it.
I just hope I'll find some good books for my Santee.
>33 lorannen: Thanks, Loranne! I'm trying to figure out how to access my 2014 SantaThing though, because I'd like to copy the text from my 2014 entry. Is there a way I can access that?
>49 kgodey: Ah, my apologies, I misread. There's currently no way to do that without my going digging in the database. I can send you a profile comment with that info though, if you like.
Signed up! Donated! Oh my goodness, how I love the SantaThing season. There's nothing but festive goodness ;-). Thank you lorannen for all the work you guys put in to make this such a fun thing to do. It really is the start of the festive season! :-)
Now I get to practice math - what dollar amount in US$ equates to an average book price divided by an even number of books from Amazon Canada (CDN$) without making the Santee have to dig around to fill a 9$ gap... Or, in other words, what US dollar amount equates to an even number of average priced books from Amazon Canada...
Holy... math is hard.
Hello my friends.
Thank you to my secret Santa .
I'm grateful for your kindness .
I'm excited to pick out a new book or two :)
How do I use the code sent to me?
>55 BellasShelf: I think you mean donation code sent to you by ladylenneth? In which case, this is more a question for the Donations thread, but I've got an answer for you, in any case.
Head over to the SantaThing Signup page and fill out the web form you see there. Instead of clicking one of the PayPal links to select your price point, just enter the code you were given in the "PayPal receipt number" field. Be sure to click "Submit" when you're done!
I have been blown away and humbled each year I have ran the donation thread. Please feel free if you have any questions about the process by either someone needing a donation or wanting to donate! I love you LibraryThing!
Here's a slightly randomish question. I thought that previous years there was the ability to have paragraphs in that first text box on your SantaThing profile page? (Okay, yeah, so the fact that I need paragraphs is probably a bad thing, I know, I know :))
Am I mis-remembering perhaps? Or I just need more carriage returns between paragraphs or something?
>62 DanieXJ: I used the HTML mark up. Hitting return doesn't take. :)
Hi is there anyway we can use our Amazon Store card for Santathing. I have a big credit and this would be great!
>64 JMC400m: I don't know much about Amazon Store cards, but so long as they function like a normal credit card, you should be able to use it. Payments have to go through PayPal, to LibraryThing, and then we place the SantaThing orders. Feel free to email me (firstname.lastname@example.org) if you need any further help with this.
Thank you >63 LibraryPerilous:
I tried paragraphs. They did not work for some reason. But, when I used two simple html line breaks (the br tag) , worked like a charm. My text is no longer one giant moosh of words.
is Book Depository or Amazon Canada easier to select books from (for the Santa)
if I want to donate a gift, do I also have to pick those books, or someone else does? And... wait... I see how to do that, but it doesn't look like it's necessary?...
(edited to correct my mis-reading)
>67 crazybatcow: Regarding bookstore choices: I'd say it depends on your Santa. If your Santa is based in another country, then accounting for the change in currency on Amazon Canada could be a little confusing (which is why we always provide exchange rates on the SantaThing Help page). Book Depository at least allows you to select your desired currency when viewing the site.
In donating a gift SantaThing entry, you do not have to pick books for the recipient of your donation. The way donations work is: you head over to the SantaThing sign-up page, and select a price point, and click on the corresponding PayPal link. Submit your payment, without filling out the rest of the SantaThing sign-up form. Then drop LT member ladylenneth a line with your PayPal receipt number from the transaction, and the amount you selected. She then matches your donation with a member who's requested a donation, and they fill out the SantaThing form, entering the PayPal receipt number from your payment.
You are not entered into the SantaThing system an additional time, by donating, and thus are not responsible for further book-picking. Does that help clear things up?
If anyone has any questions on how they can donate or need a donation please feel free to send me a PM. I will gladly answer any questions that you have.
So excited to discover SantaThing...and can't believe that I've somehow missed it for the last 8 years! Have signed up, joyously, and really looking forward to selecting books for my Santee...but I'm a newbie at this, so please be nice to me. Am loving the thought of spreading bookish joy around the world at Christmas.
Hello, this is my first SantaThing and I want to make sure I am doing everything right. I have signed up of course but now I am looking for my SantaThing profile and I can not find it. Where should I go to find it?
(Let's not go into why I can type that address off the top of my head... :))
>71 CryBel: To elaborate, the SantaThing page is here, as >72 DanieXJ: and >73 Jenni_Canuck: pointed out. You can find your SantaThing profile under "Your SantaThings" on that page. If you'd like to view or edit info on your SantaThing profile, click the "edit" link that appears next to your entry.
I've updated my initial post to reflect this, but I've got a quick SantaThing bug announcement: SantaThing entries cannot currently be made using Microsoft Edge. More specifically, the PayPal portion of the sign-up process is broken, and hopefully we'll be able to fix this tomorrow, once the staff returns from the weekend.
So, if you're an Edge user interested in SantaThing, please try another browser. If you're unable to use another browser, drop me a line (email@example.com), and I'll help you with a workaround.
For those interested, this is also currently affecting the LibraryThing Store as a whole, and the bug report is here.
MS Edge bug update: The bug isn't on our end after all—it appears to be a problem with PayPal. Unfortunately, there's nothing we can do to resolve it. So, if you're using Microsoft Edge as your browser and want to sign up for SantaThing, please do so using a different browser!
You may want to add that message to the Santathing page itself?
Thanks for the info, I got everything taken care of but I might have double posted on accident. I hope SantaThing can remove one of them.
I so look forward to SantaThing! I get so excited and "worried" about picking the right books for the person I have. I sweat and sweat until I hear that they liked them (or at least some of them). Then when my books come I'm always astounded - HOW DID THEY KNOW HOW TO PICK SUCH PERFECT BOOKS! It makes the holidays for me, really. Thanks for doing it, I know it must be a huge hassle.
>81 UtopianPessimist: You say "huge hassle," I say "SantaThing is life." That is just my mantra Nov-Dec. ;)
More sincerely, thank you for the kind words. SantaThing is only fun because you and all our other Santas make it so. Also because books, of course.
I wanted to add to my SantaThing description that I don't mind whether the books are in English or German. Is there a way to get back to that page or edit the information or something? Thanks.
>83 Oneironaut: - yup, just go to the link on the Santathing page that says "suggest books for others". Your name will be at the top of the list, with an "edit" button to the right.
Okay, I messed up my SantaThing submissions. I submitted three -- one for myself, one for my daughter who has terminal cancer (and I'm so tired that this is why I messed up), and one for my other daughter. I completely forgot to pick a bookseller for my girls, though I think I remembered to pick one for myself. I went back into my SantaThings, and it doesn't show the option for a bookseller. How do I fix this so I can pick amazon.com? I want these books to arrive while my daughter is still here. Thanks.
>86 sahra: lorannen would be able to fix this, just send a private message her way. :)
The donation thread is booming this year I have never seen so many mystery Santa's! Want an amazing community, if anyone has any questions about the donation thread please feel free to send me a message.
Something weird is going on. Comments aren't sticking all the time in SantaThing and then my last comment here totally disappeared as well.
ETA: ok. My comment came back....
>90 leahbird: Thanks for reporting. I've tried a few test comments myself and am not seeing any issues. Based on what you've described, it sounds like it's probably one of two things: 1) your internet connection or 2) our servers were having trouble catching up earlier today. Feel free to message me directly (or post here, that's fine, too) if you have any further trouble. I'll be checking in periodically throughout the day.
Looks like a couple other people experienced something since I came across a few other double comments (where mine were 4 or 8, oops), but it resolved itself it seems. Probably just a server blip and my impatience.
>91 lorannen: There was definitely server lag going on randomly through the day, people were having various issues that would all be explained by it.
I can't believe we are in the last 24 hrs of sign up! The donation thread has been mind blowing this year! It is never too late to ask if you are in need.
woohoo! I wasn't going to sign up for SantaThing but I eventually succumbed! :-)
Does anyone know how the number of people signed up this year compares to previous years? It seems to me to be increasing every year, but that's dependent on my vague memories.
>98 RidgewayGirl: Last year was the first year 500+ signed up, if memory serves.
Just popping back in to say that I adore the reminder bar we get every year on the final sign up day.
I'm glad someone does. I was just popping in to say that while one reminder would be nice, having it keep popping up every single time even after I explicitly clicked to ignore it was a bit much.
It would be nice if it stayed at the top, rather than moving the page down every refresh.
>101 lorax: Oof. Since I like it, I hadn't clicked the 'x,' but I agree that it should go away permanently if one does.
>101 lorax: Hmm, it definitely shouldn't be doing that. I'm not seeing that behavior. I dismissed it from two of my accounts and it's staying gone. What browser/OS are you using? Does it pop up every time you refresh/go to a new page, or is it intermittent?
I dismissed it and it stayed gone for me, too. I would have let it be, but the extra second to load and shift the page down every time I went back from a thread to the Talk page was driving me insane.
I forget... can we still get/give suggestions once we're assigned a Santee?
>111 crazybatcow: Absolutely! Comments on SantaThing profiles remain open, even beyond ordering, so Santas (and others) can leave notes about their picks, or a list of other things they'd recommend for their Santee.
Okay, officially closed for now. (We'll open it up again, partially, for people who aren't as worried about who picks them.)
Warming up the picking scripts.
It would be helpful for those wanting to give suggestions if the participants could be listed alphabetically. I always look forward to making suggestions for those who are unpicked near the end, too.
Hope I can have a little fun and surprise being Santa fun this year. Last year's Santee dictated exactly what I was to buy. :(
Okay, expect emails late tonight or tomorrow morning. Everyone's picked, but Loranne is still dealing with some unintentional duplications and etc. I don't want to release until those are sorted out.
>120 crazybatcow: Good morning SantaThingers! I can't wait to see who gets picked with me!
>122 timspalding: You can have some of mine (hot, black, strong) if you want? It is my afternoon coffee, but it could serve you well also to wake up and get things going :-)
It says on the blog I would be messaged this morning who I was picking books for. I've checked my profile messages but I don't seem to received message yet. I do live in the UK and wondered whether it is because of the time difference.
>125 _Kate_: They haven't been released yet, but they will be soon. Tim's around and working on it. :)
It says we have until Dec. 8th at noon to pick books, I'm guessing that is wrong. :)
>128 KarenElissa: Not for me.
Monday, December 7th at 5pm Eastern. Sign-up ends. Secret Santas are chosen, profile messages are sent to the Secret Santa, and you can then enter your gift choices.
Friday, December 11th at 5pm Eastern. At the end of the week, gift picking ends. LibraryThing sends the order via eight tiny ponies to the bookstore you chose.
>129 mellymel171328: It's on the SantaThing page itself, not this thread: You have until Monday December 8th, 12pm Eastern time (17:00 GMT) to decide what you want to give!
If I see someone's name on my SantaThing page (and I do), can I assume that's who I will get in the end? In other words, can I go ahead and start shopping for them?
Hopefully this is okay to post here - Book Riot do a holiday recommendations podcast every year and it occurred to me that it might be a useful source of ideas for book presents that you might not otherwise think of. They also do a fortnightly show with recommendations on a particular topic which could likewise be helpful. You can find them here:
(That's just this year's, if you look through their archives there are ones from at least the last two years, plus two from this summer and last.)
Books on the Nightstand also do a holiday gift guide which you can access from their homepage: http://booksonthenightstand.com/
It looks like the sorting is going on. Emails should follow soon I'm sure you can start picking if you can see it. I see mine now too.
Just chiming in to say I see both of mine too.
Both of mine are for kids' entries, and I do have tons of those books in my library, so I get why the matches were made. But I don't know the first thing about age-appropriateness or reading levels or anything else about children's literature. Oh well, such is the luck of the draw! Maybe next year I'll have that magical perfect match.
ETA: Ooh, I just dug further into the entries, and there's some good advice listed on both of them. This should be fun and a learning experience!
>117 Cariola: I hope you landed a good one this year. :)
>134 LibraryPerilous: Let me know if you need help with the kids ones, I'm pretty good with that.
The matching is always interesting, mine intersects on one part of our library, but that isn't what the person asked for, so mine will take some thinking as well.
Santee reads what I read... so now I'll have to pick through his/her library for more ideas for myself while I'm checking to make sure I'm not duplicating anything! First time my Santee had such a similar library...
I'm very happy with my Santee :-)
I was just wondering: I thought last year there was room to leave a comment for the person you picked books for, to explain, or just to wish happy holidays. The store my Santee has picked, has no room for comments with the order.
Do not see that comment box yet. Or, am I just so forgetful that I don't remember that I have to leave my well wishes etc. in the comment / suggestion box?
>139 BoekenTrol71: Sorry, did not read very well.
Will leave the message for my Santee in the comment section.
I am so happy with my Santee, that I'm already done. (It happened to be the person I laid eyes on when I was browsing the list, thinking that it would be nice to be matched with them. Did a bit of thinking in advance.)
Thanks for organising again and getting the matching program to pick an awesome match. Now all that is left is to wait and see what my Santee thinks of the books picked :-)
Also very happy with my Santee. I've already chosen for her, and it was a delight.
You changed the deadline date, but not the day, it still says Monday instead of Friday.
I did not get any e-mail, but I can see my Santee on the SantaThing page. If I hadn't been following this thread I would not have known. Did something go wrong, or is the e-mail late/am I too impatient?
I have a short list picked out for my Santee, but I'm going to wait a few days before I order and see if anyone makes suggestions (since I do not know her).
This is probably my fifth year of doing this and it's the first time I feel like the matches were SPOT on! While it's fun to get a library that has nothing in common with your own and to explore new interests, there's some sort of exciting magical good juju feeling (like my description there?) when you get matched with someone who has the same interests that you do. Awesome matching this year, little SantaThing elves! I hope you're able to rest now while we all continue on with the fun. If I could show up on your porches with some coffee I so would. ;)
I see my match. Now the fun begins. Not sure if I will be able to pick for this one. Not too much in common, but I love the challenge.
>132 mellymel171328: No worries! The original post didn't specify, so I thought just as you did until I clicked through to the SantaThing page.
>130 rosalita: Sorry for the date discrepancy. All fixed! To be clear, you have until Friday, Dec. 11th, at 5pm Eastern to pick books for your Santee.
>134 LibraryPerilous: If you'd like to pick some books for an adult, I've already got a last-minute Santee who I need to match up with someone. Let me know if you're interested!
>131 thebookmagpie: Totally okay to post!
I'll take any last minute stragglers who need books picked for them, if there's any unassigned and leftover! :)
How do we tell which book store our giftee chose? It doesn't say in their profile, all TBA's
Never mind -- I got an email response to my question from the unflappable lorannen!
One of my Santees (I have three) doesn't have a bookstore selected. How do I know where to shop?
Here's what it looks like:
>150 Tia00017: Your Santee was a last-minute add. I'm waiting to hear back from her with regard to her bookstore preference. I can message you once that's updated!
>152 susanna.fraser: Your Santee forgot to select a store. I messaged them yesterday to see if we can't clear that up. I'll message you once I've updated your Santee's store!
Say, no-one has answered this question yet: >143 wester:, and I have the same thing. I didn't get any message yet. Did something go wrong?
edit: Hey, now I do have a message. Strange... And I had been browsing LT for a bit already, so it was not just that I hadn't refreshed in a while.
I also don't mind picking books for anyone left without a partner. Got my own secret santa person sorted and it was definitely an interesting challenge picking books for a YA fan.
Okay. I know that this has been answered in previous years, but the amount is showing up in USD, but the store is Amazon UK, so I forget what I do, and what do I enter into the form.
Do I enter the amounts in pounds, or in USD? (Although I did go to the Wiki page and see the conversion from USD to Pounds).
Funnily enough I had read the request info from the person I am picking for and had this strange feeling I'd get matched to them!
I need to pick from Amazon.com - does anyone know any sneaky methods to search for a book by price? If I get the book I am thinking of I'll have $3 left over and I'd love to find something to fill that gap but don't seem to be having much luck finding anything.
>158 Sahara20: That can be tricky. When gets down to the wire like that, here are two principles I use to guide me:
1) Classics are a good option, if they're viable for your Santee
2) We'd definitely rather have you go a little bit over-budget, than stay $3 under.
Feel free to post here if you're in need of suggestions to fill in that gap!
Yeah, Wordsworth classics are real cheap, a good many available for around $4.
>159 lorannen: Okay. So, I should take the GBP from Amazon uk and put it in USD in the form. And then I'll make sure I'm under the USD # above the form. Okay. Will Do.
Thank you for the answer, and for all that you're doing in these hectic hectic weeks :D
Thank you lorannen. I'll keep browsing for now as I have some time to do so, but may well post for help if I continue to struggle. Good to know I can go a hint over budget as that at least widens the scope a little. Many thanks.
>158 Sahara20: I just had that same issue but found a YA novel from the 90s/early 2000s for $3! Are they interested in young adult?
Does anyone know if I can look at what's available in iBooks without having to download iTunes?
Is anyone having a hard time finding books from Sherman's? I wonder if one of my Santees accidentally chose Sherman's. None of their interests seem to be available in that particular store.
>164 Candice_oxo: Well done for solving your price problems! Thank you but I'm afraid I'm looking at fairly specific history books or classics.
>166 Candice_oxo: From the help page:
Picking books from Sherman's
Sherman's does not have a website we can use to place orders online—LT staff will be coordinating orders directly with Sherman's. If your Santee has selected Sherman's as their store, feel free to do your shopping on Amazon, Powell's, or Book Depository's websites, and base your pricing/budgeting on list prices for all books.
For example, on Amazon, the primary price displayed is Amazon's own sale price. You can find the "list price" just below the Amazon price, usually slightly greyed out and with a line through it.
Note: The Sherman's website is not accurate or relevant for SantaThing. Do not use that site to do your shopping for Santees who've selected Sherman's as their store of choice.
>168 KarenElissa: Thanks for that! That is correct!
>165 Jillian_Kay: That is the problem with picking from iBooks—I'm sorry I didn't realize this before setting it as a store option this year, and it may not be on our list next year. Within iTunes, I've found it very easy. That said, if it's a hassle for you, just drop me a private message (or email), and I'll have someone else cover that Santee. I've even got someone else you can pick for!
That's okay. I'll look at it from my husband's mac tonight. Thanks!
Ack! I just looked at my Santee's library and discovered that their tastes are pretty much the exact opposite of mine. If anyone can offer suggestions, I would be eternally grateful!
>165 Jillian_Kay: I have that same problem here at work. I am heading home and going to do some looking there.
168: Oh! Thank you so much for posting this! I was very disappointed when looking at their website.
The LT Staff really needs to make it more clear how the Sherman's store works. Even if it's just a global profile message to SantaThing participants. Had I not sought this thread out I wouldn't have known this, and would have just picked from the limited selection of books on their website.
>175 Ape: Sorry about that. Somebody went in and changed some store links when I wasn't looking. The link on your Santee's profile (if they picked Sherman's) was supposed to be going to the section of the SantaThing Help Page cited in >168 KarenElissa:. I've fixed it so it's back where it should be, hopefully avoiding further confusion.
Just a heads-up to all on this thread: I have to go be heads-down working on getting December Early Reviewers books up and ready for requests. I'll be back! If you've got an urgent question that can't wait an hour or two, though, it might be best to drop me a direct message, either via LT or email (firstname.lastname@example.org). Thanks for your patience!
>148 lorannen: Thank you, Loranne. If the late-add Santee still needs a Santa, I definitely am ready, willing, and able. If this is too late of a reply, no worries and thanks again for offering. :)
>167 Sahara20: You might find something suitable in Dover's Thrift Editions line. Many of their titles are 2.50-3.00 USD. They all are public domain classics, and you can find some history titles amongst the offerings.
>179 LibraryPerilous: Oh wonderful, thank you for the suggestion. I shall go looking tomorrow as it's getting fairly late in the UK now.
>177 lorannen: I have not been able to find the ISBN or ASIN on iTunes. I have just been putting the link in with the title and price. I just want to make sure that is fine.
>181 crazy4reading: Well, that's frustrating (for you), I'm sure. I can find it on certain versions of iTunes/iBooks, but after testing my iTunes installation on my PC, I'm seeing the same thing you are.
In any case, link, title, and price is absolutely fine. I'm sorry iBooks has been a pain.
>168 KarenElissa: Thank you so much Karen, I totally missed that bit about Sherman's! That helps so much! Phew.
>172 amanda4242: Check to see if your Santee has a Wish List on LT. You could also check the profile page to see what groups the person is in or if they have an LT friend you know who might make suggestions.
Is there a way to check and see if our book choices are submitted? I clicked "save choices" but I can't see any message confirming the save.
>185 AngelaB86: Go back to the SantaThing page and refresh, there should be a green checkmark.
>187 AngelaB86: I clicked "save choices" 5 times expecting some indication that they went through, but nothing, I went back to the SantaThing page and scrolled down to see if anyone had been picked for and there were some, so I refreshed the page to see if my person went down to picked...and then saw the green checkmark. So don't worry, you're not alone.
That would be nice for next year. Maybe for now, put a note on the SantaThing page to let people know what to check for?
>184 Cariola: Thanks for the suggestions. They are a very new LT member--joined in the last week--so they don't have much of a presence here yet, but they just joined a couple of groups, so I'll see what I can come up with. They do have a wishlist I can pick from, but I like to share things I've liked with others, which may be difficult here since our tastes are so at odds.
>192 amanda4242: While I understand the inclination (I'm sure all book-lovers do), taste in books is completely subjective. Please please don't try to base book picks (not just for this moment, either!) based on things you have liked, unless you are picking for someone with near identical taste. We love to share the books we love, I know, but it's rare for those we want to share them with to actually have any interest in those same books.
Don't people often say to choose from their wish lists when they are especially concerned? It takes some of the fun out of choosing, but it does mean someone who is worried they might get a book they might not enjoy still has a way to participate.
>196 RidgewayGirl: I put my preferences, but a few years ago my Santa was, apparently, stumped and ended up not picking my books, or picked part of them and the LT people had to fill out the order at the last minute. It was, to put it politely, very disappointing when I opened my package. So now I add that my Wishlist is current in case Santa is stumped.
oh... santee santee santee... whyfor do you have all the best books already...
edited to add... I really do have to stop reading such trashy novels...
I do love it when our collections broadly match and I am given more or less free rein! I just hope that my selections work for them!
I see that I'm still "unpicked" so I hope that I'm not stumping my Santa!! If I am and I've tortured my Santa this year, please reach out through someone else if you have questions about my tastes/wishes. Perhaps they could ask me some questions on your behalf (so you don't reveal yourself!).
>201 Candice_oxo: heck I'm excited to see what they pick for you. I think we have very similar tastes in books. If you want tomorrow if they haven't picked I can try to be a go between for you.
Got my picking done!!! 5 cents over! very much fun... had to use a spreadsheet and shuffle books in and out to get this close to the amount.
>202 mellymel171328: You're the best!! I know..I always sneak back to your profile every year to see what was picked for you too, because I am so in alignment with your tastes! If my Santa is reading this, ladylenneth would be the best go-between out there if you're stumped!
>203 crazybatcow: That is some dedicated SantaThinging. And here I thought I was the only one who got to use spreadsheets for SantaThing. I kind of love spreadsheets, and I get all the fun of seeing ALL the books.
Speaking of seeing all the books, I'm thinking of putting all SantaThing picks in an LT List this year, in order of most frequently picked to least, rather than a separate account. I'm open to thoughts on this, if you've got 'em.
If my Santa is having trouble picking for me, my boyfriend got an account recently (https://www.librarything.com/profile/Chouffeblob) and he'd be willing to give you pointers and double-check that I haven't got whatever you pick! He definitely won't tell me, he knows how much I like suspense/the surprise.
>192 amanda4242: I left a suggestion on your Santee's page. Good luck!
>198 crazybatcow: My reading fell off a cliff this year, especially after my favorite baseball team made a run all the way to the World Series. My brain didn't want to process any 'smart books,' as my mom calls them, from August through November. I feel sorry for whomever was matched with my 'I want highly technical science books by scientists' entry; Santa probably wondered why I was requesting them.
>205 lorannen: I think a list, especially an ordered one, is a great idea.
This is my first time picking books for someone else so I'm full of nerves. Can I just check, because I'm slightly confused, on the selection page it says that the amount spent must be less than (or equal to) the recipient's total whereas following this thread, people are talking about being a little over. I've recalculated several times (and one of the books I was choosing changed by a whole dollar between yesterday and today which threw all my calculations off as that book had been the one constant in all my different possible combinations!) and have come to an amount which is 10 cents over - is this acceptable or do I need to try again to get just under?
>211 Peace2: Also a second question to add to that. There have been no added comments/suggestions from anyone else, should I just go ahead and pick or should I hold off in case anyone else comes up with better ideas?
>211 Peace2: Loranne already said above, but yes, it has always been allowed to be slightly over. You are fine.
Is it okay if I'm around $3 under budget? Or do you need to spend exactly the budget set out? If they want books on Kindle, there's no shipping to factor in, so is it still okay to be under budget by a few dollars?
>214 Tia00017: All you can do is get the closest you can. That 3 dollars you can't fill it will probably pay for a couple .80 over. :)
>214 Tia00017: There are so many e-books available for $1.99 or $2.99 that are not dreck, especially at Amazon where they have large (and month-long) sales. If I were doing the picking, I would take a look at the Kindle special deals to see if there's something there that matches the Santee's interests and gets you closer to your spending amount without going over. But that's just me.
>218 mellymel171328: Loranne advised someone earlier not to leave a $3 balance. People suggested Dover Editions and Wordsworth Classics. I think you could also add a nice bookmark instead, right, loranne?
>205 lorannen: I really like that idea!
>196 RidgewayGirl: et al: I'd rather be stumped than get what I did last year. My Santee dictated EXACTLY what books I was to buy and wasn't open to anything else. Why participate? Why not just buy them for yourself?
My Santee does not have a wish list, but we're close enough in taste that I don't anticipate a problem. I made a list of books, and the closest I can come to her limit is 23 cents over. I'll keep trying to get closer.
>219 Cariola: Yes! Sorry—I was finishing up some other stuff, so I had some catching up to do in this thread.
Ideally, we want to keep things as close to the budget as possible as you can, without going over. That said, we'd always rather you go $0.50 over than be $3 under. In placing orders, if the Santa's picks are $2 or more under-budget, I'll do some reworking of the order to try to get it closer.
There is technically a minimum on SantaThing items—$2.50. That said, Kindle is sort of a special case, and I'd say go ahead and pick something below that if you think it's a good fit for your Santee.
>220 Cariola: I came out about 34 cents over, but since mine also involves different currencies I'm leaving it that way.
I appreciate that everyone wants to make sure their Santee is getting their money's worth out of SantaThing, but I want to encourage you all not to stress out about it too much. LT Staff checks each order, placing them individually. Your Santees are in good hands!
So, I've got LT member Vermilious as one of my Santees this year, who also happens to be a friend of mine in real life. Surprise surprise, we have similar reading tastes! I'm confident I'll pick some good books for them, but I thought I'd put out a call for some suggestions, too, as I know there's good stuff out there that may not be on my radar. Here's their SantaThing profile: http://www.librarything.com/santathing_thing.php?id=287
Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
Can someone refresh my memory? In ordering from amazon.com, is it OK to choose books that are available from third-party sellers, as long as they qualify for the free shipping offer?
>226 rosalita: Unfortunately, no. You'll have to stick with books available from Amazon directly.
>227 lorannen: Thanks, lorannen! That narrows the search, at least. :-)
>222 lorannen: I requested Kindle books for myself, but I believe I am to order print books for my Santee; it simply says amazon.com. Is that correct?
>230 Cariola: Yep, that's right! Santees who've picked Kindle say "Amazon.com Kindle Only."
>193 .Monkey.: I've had enough awful books foisted on me by well-meaning people to know how very true that it is. However, in past SantaThings I've been matched with people whose tastes were similar enough to mine that I could chose a book that I liked with confidence that they would enjoy it too. This year my santee specifically asked for fiction, but their library is largely nonfiction works on one subject and they didn't seem too enthusiastic about getting fiction on that subject, so I've been a bit lost.
>209 LibraryPerilous: Thank you! That's a great sugestion!
I can't believe I missed Santathing this year. Anyone want to do it with me privately let me know as I am so sad to have missed this!
>235 JMC400m: You can PM lorannen and see if you can still enter. She tries to match latecomers as both Santas and Santees if there are enough. If not, you might at least still be able to enter and have someone pick books for you. And you can always log in on Friday after the picking closes to snag one of the orphans.
>235 JMC400m: I'm might be able to sneak you in still, if we get it done fast. Sent you a message directly!
lorannen the Algorithm Queen, I'd say. Couldn't be a better match; Santee was clear in what they hoped to receive; I was grateful for the recipient providing a Wish List, even though I was confused whether it was on Amazon or on LT. Found it eventually.
Wondering if Santee indicates choose from Amazon, if they get FREE 2-day delivery should they be Prime members. Or does Prime require some further ID at point of purchase that Santa Thing can't provide? It would be great in the future to be able to say, "Pls. shop at Amazon because I have a Prime membership."
Anyway, I had great fun shopping for my Santee this year and feel confident because of his/her clear indications, that s/he won't be disappointed!
>239 Limelite: Thanks for your kind words, and I'm so glad to hear we picked the right Santee for you this year!
With regards to Amazon Prime: it would be nice if we could take advantage of Prime benefits, but, unfortunately, because SantaThing payments come through LT first (instead of going directly into placing an Amazon order), we can't use Prime's handy shipping options.
A number of LT staffers have Prime memberships, and I know that a few years ago—before my time—we upset Amazon for being a company attempting to use an individual's Prime membership. Amazon Prime for businesses is a thing that exists, but, given that LT would only use it once a year, the cost just doesn't make sense for us.
I have picked my books for my Santee and the green check did not show up. I think it is because I don't have ISB/ASIN since they are iBooks and there aren't any listed for them.
>241 crazy4reading: Yep, that would be why. Looking at your picks for your Santee, I can see that they're saved, so you're good to go. Sorry about the green checkmark confusion. Putting in my notes for next year to check that title is filled out, rather than ISBN/ASIN fields. Thanks!
>242 lorannen: Thank you. Just wanted you to know for the end when there are unclaimed ones left. Thanks for everything.
Got my picks done and came in 7 cents under, assuming prices don't change between now and Friday. Good match this year! It was a lot of fun picking out the books.
I'm also available to help out with any unclaimed santees.
All entered and saved!!! yay! Merry Christmas!!! More books than fit in the little boxes, but hopefully it all makes sense. Over by 1 penny. hahahaha....
There's still a lot of Santees not picked. And only 26 hours left before gift picking closes!
>251 BoekenTrol71: The Santees who are unpicked tomorrow when Loranne closes it will be put up for adoption. You can snag as many as you like and become their Santa.
LT staff also will post requests for book suggestions on Santees who need more books to reach the amount they've paid. Those requests will start appearing on this thread once the ordering begins, and anyone can leave suggestions for Loranne and Co. to consider.
And, of course, you can leave suggestions on the unpicked Santees' entries today, in case their Santas just need some good ideas to get them started.
Just to clarify, book picking closes at 5pm Eastern tomorrow, so you've got just under 30 hours left to finishing picking. Apologies for the confusion. There were multiple places on the SantaThing page where the end of book picking time was posted, and I'd missed one in updating the page for this year.
ETA: I'll be sending out profile comment reminders at the 24-hour mark to all Santas of those unpicked.
>253 lorannen: Since there's still not a bookstore listed for my Santee, should I just list some picks from Amazon that y'all can go with? I have to finish picking tonight, since I can't be poking around on online bookstores at work.
>254 susanna.fraser: Yes, please. I've tried getting in touch with your Santee multiple times, and have yet to hear back from them with regard to their store choice. I'm sorry! Amazon is likely what we'll go with if I continue to receive no response.
General note about saving your picks: I thought we'd already fixed the bug from last year which limited the ISBN/ASIN field to 13 characters, but I was mistaken. We've now fixed it.
What this means is that, if you entered the ISBN-13 for your picks, and did not remove the dashes (i.e. if you saved it as "978-0807064733" instead of "9780807064733"), the last digit of the ISBN was cut off.
So, if you entered only the ISBN, and not a link, or title, and the last digit of the ISBN was cut off like this, I have no way of knowing what books you actually intended to pick for your Santee.
The bug is now fixed—entering an ISBN-13, with or without dashes, will result in our system pulling up the ISBN-10, to avoid this problem. If you only saved ISBNs on your Santee's SantaThing profile, and you'd like to double-check your ISBNs and make sure they saved properly, it would be much appreciated. Later today, I'll be going through each SantaThing profile to check for this, and messaging Santas whose picks were affected directly.
I'm very sorry I didn't catch this earlier. Thanks, everyone.
>252 LibraryPerilous: Thanks! I will keep an eye on this thread :-)
I just finished picking for my Santee and managed to come in 8 cents under. I was very pleased. Now I hope they like the books I chose!
Ugh, this is the time I hate. Seeing my name still listed among the unpicked makes me feel unloved. Twice I've been left orphaned and had to have a rescue Santa, and while I'm very grateful that the rescue Santas pitch in the way they do I could definitely tell they were rush jobs. I've got my fingers crossed that my Santa is working on it and just hasn't filled out the form yet ...
I didn't participate this year (not enough time to pick), but if I do next year I will obviously have to say prominently in my "Don't do this" that I really would prefer quality matches over quantity spent, and would not want people to aim to be right at or over the limit rather than aiming at getting the best possible matches. $3 under matters much less to me than getting good books would, but that seems to be a minority opinion based on how much care people are putting into getting the prices exactly right.
>256 lorannen: So, if you entered only the ISBN, and not a link, or title, and the last digit of the ISBN was cut off like this, I have no way of knowing what books you actually intended to pick for your Santee.
As the last digit is a check digit, there is only one possible ISBN number that the first twelve digits correspond to, and here you can calculate that lost check digit: http://www.hahnlibrary.net/libraries/isbncalc.html
>260 rosalita: If it makes you feel better, I'm unpicked too! But also if it makes you feel any better, I'd be super excited if I got to be your rescue Santa. I'd love picking for you! Just sending you a little holiday good juju.
>262 anglemark: Ooh, that is incredibly useful. I knew there had to be something like that out there, but I've been a little too swamped to go digging. I cannot thank you enough!
ETA: Oh, for Pete's sake. I can't get the page to load on any of my browsers. But it works fine if I go through browserstack. Guess this is the latest in the string of websites from which my IP address has been blocked. Once SantaThing is over, I get to go have some fun conversations with Comcast.
>264 lorannen: Oh man, Comcast is the devil, good luck having the patience to deal with that convo!!
>265 .Monkey.: It's bonkers. This will make my fifth phone call to them about this issue. If there were an alternative ISP in my area, I would have switched long ago. Thanks for the kind wishes.
>261 lorax: I made a spreadsheet with a list of books that I thought my santee would like, added in their prices, grouped by "genre", then selected different combinations of them to get the closest to the total. (ended up with 8 columns of possible combos) If I had had an unlimited budget I would have picked the entire list... so hitting the dollar amount was a bonus, but before I had even looked at the prices, I had come up with a list of potential fits and would have been comfortable sending any combination of them (well, as comfortable with any combination of them as it's possible to be... one never knows if someone else will like something... ;-)
I wonder if the prices I'm seeing at the Book Depository site are anywhere near the real prices for the US (I'm in Finland). My Santee is expecting three books for $30, but every book I come up with costs at least $11. Should I take a risk and pick three books that sum up to about $35, or just choose two pricier ones (against their wishes) for $30?
261: Yeah, I think it's natural for people to not want to "rip off" their Santee, so I'm sure most people try to get as close to the budget as possible. Making it clear that you don't mind if they are a few dollars off would probably be both for you and your Santa. :)
268: When I was browsing Book Depository I found that filtering out everything except paperbacks gave me books either listed at $12.04 or $9.02, going by list prices. I know Book Depository prices things locally though, and that has caused problems with ordering in the past.
>268 julienne_preacher: Good question! Book Depository does let you select what currency you're viewing the site under, via a little drop-down menu in the upper-right corner. Just make sure you're looking at USD. $11 sounds pretty average for a paperback, so I'd say those prices sound accurate.
While a few cents over is okay, $5 over-budget is too far, unfortunately. We'd have to take one of your picks off the order, and try to find a cheaper edition/alternate title. Mass market paperbacks are typically a good place to look for things $8ish and under.
It took some reading, but I finally found where I think you got the message your Santee wants three total books. What their profile actually says is that they want tree books, meaning paper copies only. This is a somewhat moot point to mention in their SantaThing profile, since they selected a non-ebook retailer as their store, and we cannot mix and match ebooks and paper copies in SantaThing entries.
>260 rosalita: I've got my eye on you if you remain unpicked, and I have already got a list of possibilities!
>270 Ape: That's also true. Book Depository's prices can be somewhat mystifying, but rest assured that we'll help make sure your Santee gets their money's worth in placing the order.
>271 lorannen: Thank you for clarification! I had no idea there was such a term, just read the word as a misspelled three...
It's a post-ebook slang term for physical books, either "tree books" or "dead-tree books." :)
>267 crazybatcow: : Great minds think alike. I did the exact same thing. You are so right; if the budget was unlimited, my Santee would be swimming in fabulous books. I just hope Santee enjoys the selection.
>276 KateBaxter: I know.... Hey I've been wondering, Lorannen .. maybe in the future, could we open up the possibility of the santa spending a few extra bucks if they're in that kind of situation? Maybe it's just me, but I would have been happy to provide a little extra to get the books I *really* wanted to get (one was too expensive)....??
I would happily adopt an orphaned Santee. I love choosing presents for people.
I just chose books for my Santee, clicked save, and they disappeared. :/
ETA: Tried again and it stuck this time.
I saved mine twice to make sure they stuck. I actually picked once and accidentally hit the refresh button and lost the original, but when I picked the 2nd got closer to the amount as I could get. I am also willing to adopt someone else if needed. I can't wait to see what I get. I hope the person I had enjoys the ones I chose.
S'pose after being Santa to my Santee that I'm eligible to be a Santa's Elf for orphans? Sure would like to be.
>282 Limelite: Absolutely! I'll be posting here once orphaned Santees are up for grabs, tomorrow evening.
I'll be here all day tomorrow so feel free to send unpicked Santees my way!
Nice to see the unpicked list is down by almost half since the last time I checked. If there's anyone left tomorrow, I'd like to adopt.
>269 Ape: Thank you, it's a good idea to add a comment like that to my Santa Thing profile next year.
>277 avanders: I was wishing that very thing! It took me quite a lot of juggling to come up with two books at the rate my Santee paid for. If I could have contributed a little extra, no problem, and I would have been so happy to do so, but it seems like quite the nightmare for our poor LT staff.
I like >261 lorax: suggestion of saying whether a person would prefer quantity to quality. On my santee's wishlist was a book I would have purchased, but it was about $7.00 short of their total, and I couldn't find any books for that price on their vendor of choice. It would have been nice to know whether they wanted as many books as possible, or a specific book from their wishlist even if they had paid a bit more that the book cost for their SantaThing.
>261 lorax: I had a long list of possible books for my Santee, which I winnowed down to a short list of six, two of which I really wanted to get them. Playing around with the four remaining books got me to my eight cents under, not some desire to just come close to the amount to spend. I know what you mean, but it didn't happen here. It just worked out that way and it pleased me.
And for those of you still unpicked -- I was one of those people last year, with a last minute Santa, and the books selected for me were fantastic. My Santa may not have been chosen by the mysterious LT algorithm, but they certainly put in the effort to make sure the books were a good fit for my tastes. Don't fear a last minute Santa! They're the devoted ones.
The hard part for me now is NOT PEEKING. I want to see the comments! I want to see what I'm getting! I'll wait, but this is the hardest present not to shake and squeeze a little.
RidgewayGirl, you can click on the page, but won't see the comments and chosen books ;-)
I finally settled on a book choice I liked. I was about $4,50 under, and the only book I could find in that price bracket that seemed worth getting was already in my Santee's library. So I changed one of the other books for a cheaper one, and now all five books are books that I think would be nice to get, and I'm only $1 under.
So now the fretting about whether my Santee agrees can start ;-)
>261 lorax:: Definitely agree. Getting good books is more important than getting exactly "my money's worth". Because, what is the worth of books that are only so-so?
Phew, got my Santa-ing in just under the wire. I'm around this evening (i.e. 5pm onwards Eastern Time) and happy to chip in to help with any orphaned Santees!
>290 library_mistress: Of course if you have access to a second account ...
I picked my books, but no isbns since they're iBooks. I'm assuming that's why it looks unpicked.
This was a lot of fun!
Am I worrying unnecessarily? I've picked books for my Santee, who's showing as picked but the ASINs I put in have changed to weird numbers and the other fields remain empty. Or is it all fine?
I have detailed the books I've chosen, including a spare just in case, in my comments to my Santee so I hope that's all OK.
I should hopefully be able to help with unpicked Santees this evening, it'll be 10pm onwards here but seeing as it's Friday...
>296 riverwillow: Welp, that's our fault. It looks like in fixing the issue with ISBN saving, we broke the ability to display ASINs properly (at least, in a way that I can read them and then find the books on Amazon). Trying to get some developer help to fix this. They should still be saved somewhere in our DB correctly.
>294 Jillian_Kay: Yep, that would be why. I just put "NA" in the ISBN fields, and now your Santee is showing up as picked!
Update on ASIN situation: That's fixed! All should be well now. It doesn't retroactively fixed mangled ASINs, but I'm going through each Kindle entry to make sure there's enough info for me to figure out each Santa's picks.
I'm curious if we have to incorporate any taxes into our total? I didn't really think about it until right now. My Santee is in the UK so my total is in GBP and over by 0.54 (GBP) assuming $30 USD is $20 GBP. Should I adjust it or will this be okay since it is a small amount?
Also, not important but wondering what happens with the unpicked Sanatees and why they haven't been picked? it looks like I'm still unpicked
>302 Laurenkm22: Your Santa hasn't selected any books for you yet--that's why you are unpicked. Because LT has a deadline for ordering, if he or she doesn't step up by 5:00, someone else will choose your books.
I have a suggestion for next year for something tangentially related to SantaThing:
Since there are so many great recommendations made through SantaThing each year, might we have a connected thread for helping our LT brethren pick books to give to the people in their everyday lives? Everyone in my family is a reader, but most of them read things that are completely different than me so picking books can be hard. But LT is full of people with various tastes that come up with wonderful suggestions each and every year!
>305 leahbird: I don't see why you couldn't start a thread for that in Book Talk this year! But I do agree that it would be a good idea to have it linked in some fashion to SantaThing next year.
>306 lorannen: I don't know about you, but I definitely do not use the Penguin Hotline for myself every year: no way, not at all.
I think it would be fun to have a "Pretend SantaThing" thread, say in July (a play on Christmas in July), in which the second poster on the thread makes recommendations for the first poster, poster #3 for poster #2, and so on, as if we are leaving notes on SantaThing entries.
>307 LibraryPerilous: You lot are just full of good ideas this afternoon. I love it.
I currently have 3 Santees who I know aren't going to get picked by the deadline. Anyone want to help me out and adopt one?
>307 LibraryPerilous: I'm down for the pretend SantaThing in July! Sign me up!
All righty, the current 3 are taken! Thanks, everyone!
In a little less than an hour, the floodgates will open, and you can snap up Santees left and right.
Why restrict it to just one person recommending per poster?
>315 lorax: I see no need to "restrict," per se, but it would help avoid confusion (not everyone uses the reply function), and would also keep with the "you recommend books for one person, and another person recommends books for you, and so on, and so forth" strategy.
>315 lorax: I thought that would be a way of keeping the cycle of recommendations going and ensuring that everyone participating received at least one recommendation. I'm sure, though, that the thread would go in whatever directions other posters took it, and that would be fine too.
I don't know, I think you'd get a lot more participation if people didn't feel like they missed out on someone where they could actually give good recommendations because someone else got there first! I wouldn't bother if participating meant I would have to obsessively refresh waiting for someone I felt qualified to recommend for posted, and then hurriedly rush to get mine in before someone else posted.
>318 lorax: Thanks for the feedback; that's a good point.
If I'm around Talk in July next year, I'll throw up a thread with some thoughts on how it might work, and people can participate in whatever posting fashion they choose. Perhaps a "Hi, Santa, I've loved these books so far this year. What are some titles you would like to put in my stocking?" approach might be better. Then, anyone whose read similar books or has similar tastes could chime in with titles.
And now, back to SantaThing. Picking period should be closing soon!
I would love to help too, if I may? I'd love to give another santee a surprise present! :)
Argh. I don't think my picks for my person ever took. Just noticed an email saying it still needed to be done from yesterday, but I already picked for them earlier in the week. :(
>321 angeljacoby: You just had one Santee, right? I happened to check a few minutes ago to see if that person was unpicked—I'd left a suggestion on the page—and your titles/ISBNs are there now.
Okay, all unpicked Santees are now up for grabs! Head over to the SantaThing page and look under "Other Santas."
Santees with a yellow triangle next to their username are up for grabs.
Click the username of a Santee to open their SantaThing profile. At the top of their SantaThing profile, you should see a "Grab this member for yourself" link. Click that link to claim your new Santee, and don't forget to pick some books for them!
Thanks for all your help, my elves!
I would like to help ashmolean1, Laura Brook, and owlie13 please.
Edited--looks like ashmolean and owlie13 have been taken, unless you were that fast, Loranne!
Cariola I just finished my two snagged Santees so I'll go take a look at those profiles and try to help!
I'm picking books for someone now, and I'm having a hard time getting up to the amount they chose with only 5 books. (They want Kindle books, and most of the things that I want to get them are around $7.99.) Is there a way to add an extra book or two? I'd hate to have to change my selections just to pick more expensive books.
I've picked the books for my two Santees that I adopted :) I'm glad we had this opportunity to help the others out, so everyone gets a present! :)
>325 Cariola: Not I! I'm working on my own extra Santee at the moment. And I am fast, but not that fast.
That's a hard one, kindle books are not as expensive.. I hope you're able to pick more for your Santee!
>327 ryvre: You can definitely add more books, just put them in a comment on their SantaThing profile, with the ISBN and title (link, too, if you've got it handy). Santas' comments get highlighted in red, and LT elves who are doing the ordering read those comments very carefully!
>329 lorannen: Maybe their Santees kicked in at the last moment (ashmolean1 and owlie13).
>330 catarina1: Looks like they've all been snapped up! Stay tuned, though—not all of them have books picked just yet!
I'm done with mine, so if anyone else needs ideas for their snagged Santee let me know!
Wow, that was fun - I snagged two extra Santees right there at the last minute. Thanks for SantaThing again this year! :)
You guys are amazing—we're already down to just nine Santees who don't yet have books picked for them!
>339 booksnesread: They've all been adopted at this point, I'm afraid. But if their current Santas fall through for some reason, I'll send you a message!
On the SantaThing page it looks as if three are not picked yet? If that is a truism, I'm here and ready to roll if you need some help!
Two of the three remaining have Tim Spalding as their Santa. Somehow I think they are going to be ok:)
It will not let me pick my books for my santee, I have tried twice.
>345 AngelaFries: Sorry for the trouble. I just sent a reply to your message.
>344 lorannen: I'll check back tomorrow morning. I'm on the Pacific Coast, it probably won't be before 7am here when I check in, unless I can't sleep, which happens. :)
Hey Santas! I'm in the process of placing SantaThing orders now, which also means reconciling each order to make sure Santa stays within the budget. I could use some suggestions for this entry:
I'm going to have to swap out at least one of Santa's picks, and am looking for something in the $6-$7 range as a replacement.
Reminder: this Santee's store of choice is Sherman's, which means we have to go by list prices posted on Amazon or Book Depository.
There are a lot of Puffin Classics paperbacks for $5-7. I have Jane Eyre and several others.
Thanks for the suggestions, all! I'm sure I'll have more of those in the days to come.
Oh no, I think I must be responsible for one of the nine missing! My husband had a nasty accident last week and landed in hospital and everything else went haywire and I was so sure I had until tonight to do it! What can I do to make up for it? I'll happily, thankfully, take a trip to the bookshop and send picked books myself express...can't bear to think that someone may be without because I'm so crap...but I can't see now who my Santee was??? What can I do to make it right? I am so, so sorry for messing up the lovely SantaThing!
>353 BookAddictUK: I hope everything is okay. Your santee was picked for, everyone who got missed for whatever reason gets rescue santas to help out once the time is up. Nothing to worry about.
Thank you muchly. Lorannan sent me a lovely message and explained - I think she's been playing Santa in my place, and I'm so relieved that my Santee won't be disappointed at Christmas. As for hubby - a nasty ankle break, lots of pain and he can't walk, but it's already on the mend and all seem confident he'll quickly make a full recovery. Was all a bit scary at the time though (and, for once, there was no Christmas Spirit involved in his accident!)
Special thanks to my Secret Santa on SantaThing -- awesome book selection!!!
Not my best year, since the two books I got were already marked as 1.5 stars in my library, but there's always gift balances. Thanks though for offering this great program every year. It's fun getting to shop for someone else :)
>359 kirathelibrarian: Very sorry about that! I thought I'd checked your order more carefully. I'll be happy to replace your order with alternate picks. Sending you a direct message now.
>359 kirathelibrarian: The LT add date of those books is 12/23/15, well after the SantaThing ordering was done. Unless you had other editions previously in your library and have now deleted them, I don't see how your Santa could know that you'd already read and disliked the books that were chosen.
Ah, ETA: Yours was a Kindle order. Perhaps this was a bizarre same-day cross!
Thanks lorannen :) it may have been a same day cross as well. Who knows :)
>362 kirathelibrarian: Yeah, I placed the order for your Kindle books yesterday (Dec. 22nd), so that's what happened. They weren't there when I checked your library, after all. I'll still send you some replacements, as promised, of course.
Update for anyone who has yet to receive their Kindle gifts: I'm not quite done with those orders, but have to take a break to go do some family things this afternoon. I'll be finishing those orders tonight, so you should have them by tomorrow morning (Eastern time) at the very latest.
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