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1lorannen
Edited: Dec 16, 2015, 11:40am Top

The original thread was taking a while to load, so I'm continuing it here. Copy/pasted the original first post:

It's that time of year again! This is our NINTH Annual SantaThing, and we're all so excited!

Check out the blog for full details.

The main SantaThing page lives here: http://www.librarything.com/santathing.php

SantaThing sign-ups and book-picking are closed. Currently, LT staff elves are working on place all your SantaThing orders! Staff members will be posting in this thread with requests for suggestions for extra books for Santees. You can continue to make suggestions by leaving comments on SantaThing profiles.

See the SantaThing Help page, for details like store shipping deadlines and exchange rates.

ETA: Every year, amazing LT-ers come out of the woodwork and give generously to each other through SantaThing. This year was no exception. Hats off to LT member ladylenneth for running an amazing Donations thread this year.

Any questions? Post them in this thread, see the SantaThing Help page, or email me directly at loranne@librarything.com.

Have your SantaThing books arrived? Let us know!

How'd SantaThing go for you this year? Leave us some feedback and tell us about it.

2Jenni_Canuck
Nov 24, 2015, 11:49am Top

but but but ... it says "New signups are closed."?

3lorannen
Nov 24, 2015, 11:51am Top

>2 Jenni_Canuck: It lies/I jumped the gun. All set now and open for signups!

4Jenni_Canuck
Nov 24, 2015, 11:54am Top

and done! I'm so excited !!!

5leahbird
Nov 24, 2015, 12:14pm Top

YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY!

6thebookmagpie
Nov 24, 2015, 12:15pm Top

Going to sign up when I get home from work! So excited :D

7fyrefly98
Nov 24, 2015, 12:32pm Top

HOORAY!! One of my favorite things about the holidays!

8mellymel171328
Nov 24, 2015, 12:38pm Top

I'm so excited!! I just can't hide it!!

9Candice_oxo
Nov 24, 2015, 12:39pm Top

So excited! Please let me know if there's anything I can do to help with the behind-the-scenes. Enjoy the magic, everyone!

10mellymel171328
Nov 24, 2015, 12:49pm Top

Our yearly donation thread is open! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQqwG_rQx7A

11lorannen
Nov 24, 2015, 12:56pm Top

>10 mellymel171328: Thanks so much! I updated the initial post (and am updating the blog post) to include the link to the donation thread.

12leahbird
Edited: Nov 24, 2015, 2:36pm Top

I'm getting a weird error message when I try to edit my info for SantaThing.

It happened on my account and my niece's. I redacted my home address. ;)

13lorannen
Nov 24, 2015, 1:51pm Top

>12 leahbird: Yikes, sorry about that. Mike's looking into it. Give us a few?

14hattie_lou
Nov 24, 2015, 1:51pm Top

>12 leahbird: should be good now. let me know if you are still having issues.

15lindapanzo
Nov 24, 2015, 1:55pm Top

I usually make a careful note of my confirmation number from paypal and then sign up right away.

This year, I was distracted and accidentally closed that page with the transaction number, which put me into a mini-panic. Not to worry, the email from paypal includes the transaction confirmation number that we need to sign up.

I've been doing this most of the 9 years. You'd think I'd remember this stuff.

16lorax
Nov 24, 2015, 1:57pm Top

>12 leahbird:

You may want to redact your full name as well.

17lorannen
Nov 24, 2015, 2:08pm Top

>12 leahbird: hattie_lou is Mike's super-secret alias. Just in case you're looking for a post with the staff icon saying it's been fixed, here it is. All taken care of!

18leahbird
Nov 24, 2015, 2:23pm Top

>14 hattie_lou: Thanks super secret Mike!

>16 lorax: Thanks! I thought I'd caught the important stuff but I was speed reading.

>17 lorannen: That is HILARIOUS!

19Limelite
Nov 24, 2015, 5:49pm Top

GAK!

I filled out application all except home address. While typing that, I managed to hit a key combination that made pg disappear. Do you have? I don't want to show up twice on the list. Must I start all over? Can I edit to complete w/ address info, etc.? If you can let me know my status with Santa, I'll take it from there.

Thanks!

20humblewomble
Nov 24, 2015, 7:13pm Top

Done :) really excited looking st everyone else's too :)

21thebookmagpie
Nov 24, 2015, 7:15pm Top

Sorry, I must have forgotten to sign out on my phone. I used to be humblewomble but I'm now thebookmagpie!

22lorannen
Nov 24, 2015, 10:16pm Top

>19 Limelite: Sorry for the delayed response! You should be able to edit that information, still, if you clicked "Save" at any point. I'm seeing a complete entry for you in our database at the moment. You can see and edit your SantaThing profile by clicking the "Edit" link next to your SantaThing entry (which appears under "Your SantaThings" over on the SantaThing page).

Feel free to message me directly if you want me to verify things like your selected store/price point.

23guido47
Nov 25, 2015, 12:07am Top

As soon as I got my PM, I signed up.

Well, I'm not sure how many years I've done SantaThing (Not 9 for sure) But I thought that those members who have
participated a certain number of years (about my number or better?) should, NO I DEMAND MUST be awarded a glittery and bling medal/badge.

Guido.

24bestem
Nov 25, 2015, 12:55am Top

>22 lorannen: I have a question. It says "Amazon.com: Orders $35 will get exactly what they pay in books.". What if the order is "= $35", does that fall with the less than or the more than camp?

25jeanie0510
Nov 25, 2015, 1:09am Top

How do I get to my Santee profile to list the ISBNs?

26mellymel171328
Nov 25, 2015, 1:46am Top

>25 jeanie0510: it isn't time for that yet.

27.Monkey.
Nov 25, 2015, 6:24am Top

>24 bestem: Amazon ships for free with $35 and over. If you're asking if they need to be 35.00 or 35.01, it's the former, just like the statement says. ;)

28lorannen
Edited: Nov 25, 2015, 8:05am Top

>24 bestem: I can see how this is a bit confusing, and will amend the SantaThing wiki. >27 .Monkey.: is correct—in order to get free shipping on Amazon, the order has to total $35.00 or more. I was using Amazon's stated amounts, rather than SantaThing price points.

The way SantaThing budgeting works, we ask Santas to pick books up to the amount their Santee has paid in, without going over. Which means that if you sign up for SantaThing at the $35 mark, LibraryThing holds $5 from your SantaThing budget to cover shipping costs. This hasn't changed from last year.

I'm updating the SantaThing wiki so that it indicates signing up at the $40 mark or above will get you free shipping, rather than having this weird $35.00 gap (and fixing the other price point designations on that page while I'm at it).

29sometimeunderwater
Edited: Nov 25, 2015, 10:56am Top

Assuming this isn't open to non-US Santas?

Edit: ignore! Just seen the answer on the Wiki page.

30Pears
Nov 25, 2015, 11:00am Top

Am temped to join again since "kindle only" has been introduced. My kindle is registered at and I buy from amazon.com, but I live outside the US and have to pay local VAT. Who is responsible for paying the VAT?

31lorannen
Nov 25, 2015, 11:42am Top

>30 Pears: VAT will come from your SantaThing budget (the amount you paid in). LT staffers place each order by hand, to make sure your Santa isn't too much over or under-budget.

32kgodey
Edited: Nov 25, 2015, 11:48am Top

How do I access last year's SantaThing? I'd like to take a look at my descriptions for what I said in the "tastes", "don't get me this" and "other notes" fields and maybe copy it over.

33lorannen
Nov 25, 2015, 11:51am Top

>32 kgodey: Head over to the SantaThing page and look under "Your SantaThings". You'll see your username along with the first bit of text in your SantaThing profile, followed by an "Edit" link. Click that link to see what you've already got on your SantaThing profile, and to make changes.

34crazybatcow
Nov 25, 2015, 11:52am Top

Hmmm... I missed this last year... must sign up this year... feeling bad for whoever gets me already... hehehehehe

35pberinstein
Nov 25, 2015, 4:54pm Top

How can I edit my preferences for SantaThing? I left them blank when I signed up because I wasn't sure what to put, and now I can't figure out if there's a way to add them. Thank you!

36lorannen
Nov 25, 2015, 6:44pm Top

>35 pberinstein: You can definitely edit your SantaThing preferences. See my instructions in >33 lorannen:

37Limelite
Nov 25, 2015, 6:53pm Top

>22 lorannen:
Thanks, no problem. I just redid and everything worked fine. Appreciate the suggestions!

38LibraryCin
Edited: Nov 25, 2015, 9:27pm Top

I enjoyed this last year and have been debating about doing it again (I'd like to, I'm just thinking of the cost!).

Question, though - I saw in the newsletter that came to my email that we would know who we choose for on a Tuesday, but we only have till the Friday of that same week to get our choices in? I have much more time for this kind of thing on the weekends, so I'd love to have at least one weekend day to work on it.

I don't see the deadline it has to be in listed here, so I wanted to double check. Thanks!

ETA: OK, looking at the blog now. I see that that is the case. 5pm EST Friday is the deadline, which for me means 3pm Friday, which really means Thursday evening, which really means Wednesday evening, as I'm busy on Thursdays and work M-F during the day. Hmmm, now I guess the decision for me is whether or not I think I'll have time to get it done.

39crazybatcow
Nov 25, 2015, 9:12pm Top

My 2 cents is also that the window to "sign up" is a bit on the long side, and the window to pick books is a bit on the short side. We get nearly two weeks to make a decision on whether or not to sign up but only 4 days to actually think about and pick books...

40LibraryCin
Nov 25, 2015, 9:27pm Top

>39 crazybatcow: Yes, I agree!

41lorannen
Nov 25, 2015, 10:33pm Top

>39 crazybatcow: I certainly appreciate the feedback, and understand your concern. SantaThing is always a lot of juggling of various deadlines—actual holidays themselves and bookseller holiday shipping deadlines among them. Last year I had a number of folks reach out to me after sign-ups closed, expressing that they missed out. We're trying to remedy that situation this year.

The Friday evening deadline for picking books is really in place to ensure that I have plenty of time to get orders compiled and out to a couple of our booksellers by the following Monday morning. Those of you who've done SantaThing before will remember that, immediately following the book-picking deadline, we have to leave room for last-minute Santas picking books for orphaned Santees.

I don't want anyone to be left out (like >38 LibraryCin:) for fear of not having enough picking time, of course. Rest assured, if you do run out of time, your Santee will still be taken care of.

42BoekenTrol71
Nov 26, 2015, 9:30am Top

>39 crazybatcow: I agree also. When looking at the deadlines for BookDepository (shipped from UK), the for most parts of the world the ordering deadline has expired already, when picking date here closes.

Christmas is a crazy time for all involved, in many different ways. If you count back from the first closing date mentioned for an online shop (say December 4th, like mentioned at TheBookDepository) and take for example 10 days for deciding whether to sign up or not, 3 days ttopair the participants, 10 days to pick books and 2 days to actually place the orders, then Santa Thing should be opened 25 days prior to December 4th, making it possible to do all at a much less stressy pace.

Better for you at LT staff, better for participants when picking books and the chance that gifts actually arrive in time is also bigger.

43.Monkey.
Nov 26, 2015, 9:55am Top

Yeah I think next year it really ought to start sooner so there isn't that rush. Longer signup window is good but, the rest needs to be taken into account as well.

44Sahara20
Nov 26, 2015, 10:34am Top

I have to agree with the requested change in time to pick books next year. It's a very limited time and I usually find myself paired up with someone who doesn't read the same sort of thing as me which means I need some time to research what to buy. I would really appreciate a couple more days including at least one weekend day if it were possible to arrange in future.

But on a positive note - I love Santa Thing so thank you so much for all the work put in to keep it running - it's an amazing thing to do.

45Peace2
Nov 26, 2015, 11:37am Top

I'd love to sign up for SantaThing, but I'm a bit worried about picking books for someone else if they have very different tastes to me. Do lots of people chip in with suggestions? (I know I had a look through last year and suggested for a couple of people, but I never thought to see how many people were willing to help with ideas). I'd hate for someone else to end up loathing whatever I'd picked! Makes me quite nervous!

46RidgewayGirl
Nov 26, 2015, 11:57am Top

>45 Peace2: Yes, by the time that you will need to pick books, most people will have multiple suggestions. and the LT staff are good at picking Santees. I've only had one year where I felt that choosing books was a bit of a stretch for me. And there are always people waiting to help if you get stuck - in the very worst case, if you get stuck, a volunteer will choose the books for you.

I'd encourage you to give it a go.

47zjakkelien
Nov 26, 2015, 1:28pm Top

>45 Peace2: That is also my experience. I had someone with very different taste from mine only once, and that time I think I managed to find books by making use of user suggestions, LT 'what others should borrow from you', and 'people who liked this also liked...', both on LT and on a book site. It became quite a project!

48LarraChersan
Nov 26, 2015, 2:42pm Top

Okay, I signed up. This is my very first Santa Thing, and I'm looking forward to it.
I just hope I'll find some good books for my Santee.

49kgodey
Nov 26, 2015, 4:35pm Top

>33 lorannen: Thanks, Loranne! I'm trying to figure out how to access my 2014 SantaThing though, because I'd like to copy the text from my 2014 entry. Is there a way I can access that?

50lorannen
Nov 26, 2015, 4:43pm Top

>49 kgodey: Ah, my apologies, I misread. There's currently no way to do that without my going digging in the database. I can send you a profile comment with that info though, if you like.

51klarusu
Nov 26, 2015, 4:52pm Top

Signed up! Donated! Oh my goodness, how I love the SantaThing season. There's nothing but festive goodness ;-). Thank you lorannen for all the work you guys put in to make this such a fun thing to do. It really is the start of the festive season! :-)

52crazybatcow
Nov 26, 2015, 6:42pm Top

Now I get to practice math - what dollar amount in US$ equates to an average book price divided by an even number of books from Amazon Canada (CDN$) without making the Santee have to dig around to fill a 9$ gap... Or, in other words, what US dollar amount equates to an even number of average priced books from Amazon Canada...

Holy... math is hard.

53Peace2
Nov 26, 2015, 6:52pm Top

>46 RidgewayGirl: and >47 zjakkelien: Convinced! I've done it, I've joined SantaThing for the first time. (gosh I'm going to get some books for Christmas!)

54lorannen
Nov 26, 2015, 7:25pm Top

>53 Peace2: Welcome aboard! We're happy to have you

>51 klarusu: Welcome back!

>52 crazybatcow: Hopefully the exchange rates posted on the SantaThing help page will alleviate some of the math? Math is, indeed, hard, and I'm sorry.

55BellasShelf
Nov 26, 2015, 8:03pm Top

Hello my friends.
Thank you to my secret Santa .
I'm grateful for your kindness .
I'm excited to pick out a new book or two :)
How do I use the code sent to me?
Thank you

56lorannen
Edited: Nov 27, 2015, 10:04am Top

>55 BellasShelf: I think you mean donation code sent to you by ladylenneth? In which case, this is more a question for the Donations thread, but I've got an answer for you, in any case.

Head over to the SantaThing Signup page and fill out the web form you see there. Instead of clicking one of the PayPal links to select your price point, just enter the code you were given in the "PayPal receipt number" field. Be sure to click "Submit" when you're done!

57DanieXJ
Edited: Nov 27, 2015, 10:02am Top

Very excited to do this again. Woo!!

58zjakkelien
Nov 27, 2015, 2:50pm Top

59pberinstein
Nov 27, 2015, 3:05pm Top

Thanks so much, lorannen! It worked.

60mellymel171328
Nov 27, 2015, 3:59pm Top

I have been blown away and humbled each year I have ran the donation thread. Please feel free if you have any questions about the process by either someone needing a donation or wanting to donate! I love you LibraryThing!

61kgodey
Nov 27, 2015, 4:05pm Top

>50 lorannen: That would be great, Loranne! Thank you!

62DanieXJ
Nov 28, 2015, 11:07am Top

Here's a slightly randomish question. I thought that previous years there was the ability to have paragraphs in that first text box on your SantaThing profile page? (Okay, yeah, so the fact that I need paragraphs is probably a bad thing, I know, I know :))

Am I mis-remembering perhaps? Or I just need more carriage returns between paragraphs or something?

63LibraryPerilous
Edited: Nov 28, 2015, 12:04pm Top

>62 DanieXJ: I used the HTML mark up. Hitting return doesn't take. :)

64JMC400m
Nov 28, 2015, 12:07pm Top

Hi is there anyway we can use our Amazon Store card for Santathing. I have a big credit and this would be great!

65lorannen
Nov 28, 2015, 2:12pm Top

>64 JMC400m: I don't know much about Amazon Store cards, but so long as they function like a normal credit card, you should be able to use it. Payments have to go through PayPal, to LibraryThing, and then we place the SantaThing orders. Feel free to email me (loranne@librarything.com) if you need any further help with this.

66DanieXJ
Nov 28, 2015, 2:29pm Top

Thank you >63 LibraryPerilous:

I tried paragraphs. They did not work for some reason. But, when I used two simple html line breaks (the br tag) , worked like a charm. My text is no longer one giant moosh of words.

67crazybatcow
Edited: Nov 28, 2015, 3:20pm Top

Two questions:
is Book Depository or Amazon Canada easier to select books from (for the Santa)
if I want to donate a gift, do I also have to pick those books, or someone else does? And... wait... I see how to do that, but it doesn't look like it's necessary?...

(edited to correct my mis-reading)

68lorannen
Edited: Nov 28, 2015, 10:45pm Top

>67 crazybatcow: Regarding bookstore choices: I'd say it depends on your Santa. If your Santa is based in another country, then accounting for the change in currency on Amazon Canada could be a little confusing (which is why we always provide exchange rates on the SantaThing Help page). Book Depository at least allows you to select your desired currency when viewing the site.

In donating a gift SantaThing entry, you do not have to pick books for the recipient of your donation. The way donations work is: you head over to the SantaThing sign-up page, and select a price point, and click on the corresponding PayPal link. Submit your payment, without filling out the rest of the SantaThing sign-up form. Then drop LT member ladylenneth a line with your PayPal receipt number from the transaction, and the amount you selected. She then matches your donation with a member who's requested a donation, and they fill out the SantaThing form, entering the PayPal receipt number from your payment.

You are not entered into the SantaThing system an additional time, by donating, and thus are not responsible for further book-picking. Does that help clear things up?

69mellymel171328
Nov 28, 2015, 7:31pm Top

If anyone has any questions on how they can donate or need a donation please feel free to send me a PM. I will gladly answer any questions that you have.

70BookAddictUK
Nov 29, 2015, 4:27am Top

So excited to discover SantaThing...and can't believe that I've somehow missed it for the last 8 years! Have signed up, joyously, and really looking forward to selecting books for my Santee...but I'm a newbie at this, so please be nice to me. Am loving the thought of spreading bookish joy around the world at Christmas.

71CryBel
Nov 29, 2015, 1:44pm Top

Hello, this is my first SantaThing and I want to make sure I am doing everything right. I have signed up of course but now I am looking for my SantaThing profile and I can not find it. Where should I go to find it?

72DanieXJ
Edited: Nov 29, 2015, 2:34pm Top

www.librarything.com/santathing.php

(Let's not go into why I can type that address off the top of my head... :))

74lorannen
Nov 29, 2015, 2:58pm Top

>71 CryBel: To elaborate, the SantaThing page is here, as >72 DanieXJ: and >73 Jenni_Canuck: pointed out. You can find your SantaThing profile under "Your SantaThings" on that page. If you'd like to view or edit info on your SantaThing profile, click the "edit" link that appears next to your entry.

Welcome!

75lorannen
Nov 29, 2015, 7:14pm Top

I've updated my initial post to reflect this, but I've got a quick SantaThing bug announcement: SantaThing entries cannot currently be made using Microsoft Edge. More specifically, the PayPal portion of the sign-up process is broken, and hopefully we'll be able to fix this tomorrow, once the staff returns from the weekend.

So, if you're an Edge user interested in SantaThing, please try another browser. If you're unable to use another browser, drop me a line (loranne@librarything.com), and I'll help you with a workaround.

For those interested, this is also currently affecting the LibraryThing Store as a whole, and the bug report is here.

76lorannen
Nov 30, 2015, 10:55am Top

MS Edge bug update: The bug isn't on our end after all—it appears to be a problem with PayPal. Unfortunately, there's nothing we can do to resolve it. So, if you're using Microsoft Edge as your browser and want to sign up for SantaThing, please do so using a different browser!

77AnnieMod
Nov 30, 2015, 11:25am Top

>76 lorannen:

You may want to add that message to the Santathing page itself?

78lorannen
Nov 30, 2015, 11:35am Top

>77 AnnieMod: Already done!

79AnnieMod
Nov 30, 2015, 11:48am Top

>78 lorannen:

:) Ah - ok. Thanks!

80CryBel
Nov 30, 2015, 1:52pm Top

Thanks for the info, I got everything taken care of but I might have double posted on accident. I hope SantaThing can remove one of them.

81UtopianPessimist
Nov 30, 2015, 5:09pm Top

I so look forward to SantaThing! I get so excited and "worried" about picking the right books for the person I have. I sweat and sweat until I hear that they liked them (or at least some of them). Then when my books come I'm always astounded - HOW DID THEY KNOW HOW TO PICK SUCH PERFECT BOOKS! It makes the holidays for me, really. Thanks for doing it, I know it must be a huge hassle.

82lorannen
Edited: Nov 30, 2015, 10:04pm Top

>81 UtopianPessimist: You say "huge hassle," I say "SantaThing is life." That is just my mantra Nov-Dec. ;)

More sincerely, thank you for the kind words. SantaThing is only fun because you and all our other Santas make it so. Also because books, of course.

83Oneironaut
Dec 2, 2015, 7:53am Top

I wanted to add to my SantaThing description that I don't mind whether the books are in English or German. Is there a way to get back to that page or edit the information or something? Thanks.

84crazybatcow
Dec 2, 2015, 8:26am Top

>83 Oneironaut: - yup, just go to the link on the Santathing page that says "suggest books for others". Your name will be at the top of the list, with an "edit" button to the right.

85Oneironaut
Dec 3, 2015, 12:37pm Top

Thanks. :)

86sahra
Dec 3, 2015, 10:57pm Top

Okay, I messed up my SantaThing submissions. I submitted three -- one for myself, one for my daughter who has terminal cancer (and I'm so tired that this is why I messed up), and one for my other daughter. I completely forgot to pick a bookseller for my girls, though I think I remembered to pick one for myself. I went back into my SantaThings, and it doesn't show the option for a bookseller. How do I fix this so I can pick amazon.com? I want these books to arrive while my daughter is still here. Thanks.

87mellymel171328
Dec 4, 2015, 2:18am Top

>86 sahra: lorannen would be able to fix this, just send a private message her way. :)

88mellymel171328
Dec 4, 2015, 3:24pm Top

The donation thread is booming this year I have never seen so many mystery Santa's! Want an amazing community, if anyone has any questions about the donation thread please feel free to send me a message.

89leahbird
Edited: Dec 5, 2015, 12:41pm Top

Ignore this, it suddenly worked as soon as I complained.

90leahbird
Edited: Dec 5, 2015, 12:53pm Top

Something weird is going on. Comments aren't sticking all the time in SantaThing and then my last comment here totally disappeared as well.

ETA: ok. My comment came back....

91lorannen
Edited: Dec 5, 2015, 3:19pm Top

>90 leahbird: Thanks for reporting. I've tried a few test comments myself and am not seeing any issues. Based on what you've described, it sounds like it's probably one of two things: 1) your internet connection or 2) our servers were having trouble catching up earlier today. Feel free to message me directly (or post here, that's fine, too) if you have any further trouble. I'll be checking in periodically throughout the day.

92leahbird
Dec 5, 2015, 3:37pm Top

Looks like a couple other people experienced something since I came across a few other double comments (where mine were 4 or 8, oops), but it resolved itself it seems. Probably just a server blip and my impatience.

93.Monkey.
Dec 5, 2015, 5:07pm Top

>91 lorannen: There was definitely server lag going on randomly through the day, people were having various issues that would all be explained by it.

94mellymel171328
Dec 6, 2015, 8:01pm Top

I can't believe we are in the last 24 hrs of sign up! The donation thread has been mind blowing this year! It is never too late to ask if you are in need.

Happy SantaThing!

95melawen
Dec 7, 2015, 4:30am Top

woohoo! I wasn't going to sign up for SantaThing but I eventually succumbed! :-)

96thebookmagpie
Dec 7, 2015, 7:40am Top

I'm so excited for picking now :) can't wait to see who I get!

97mellymel171328
Dec 7, 2015, 8:23am Top

>95 melawen: glad to have you!

98RidgewayGirl
Dec 7, 2015, 9:28am Top

Does anyone know how the number of people signed up this year compares to previous years? It seems to me to be increasing every year, but that's dependent on my vague memories.

99LibraryPerilous
Dec 7, 2015, 10:08am Top

>98 RidgewayGirl: Last year was the first year 500+ signed up, if memory serves.

100LibraryPerilous
Dec 7, 2015, 11:59am Top

Just popping back in to say that I adore the reminder bar we get every year on the final sign up day.

101lorax
Dec 7, 2015, 1:37pm Top

>100 LibraryPerilous:

I'm glad someone does. I was just popping in to say that while one reminder would be nice, having it keep popping up every single time even after I explicitly clicked to ignore it was a bit much.

102JerryMmm
Dec 7, 2015, 1:46pm Top

It would be nice if it stayed at the top, rather than moving the page down every refresh.

103RidgewayGirl
Dec 7, 2015, 1:50pm Top

It's only for a few hours, though.

104lorannen
Dec 7, 2015, 1:54pm Top

>99 LibraryPerilous: Thanks for the feedback! I'm thinking I'll set it there on the first day of sign-ups next year, too.

>102 JerryMmm: I'm not sure that's something we can fix, but I'll point it out to devs.

105LibraryPerilous
Dec 7, 2015, 1:55pm Top

>101 lorax: Oof. Since I like it, I hadn't clicked the 'x,' but I agree that it should go away permanently if one does.

106lorannen
Edited: Dec 7, 2015, 1:58pm Top

>101 lorax: Hmm, it definitely shouldn't be doing that. I'm not seeing that behavior. I dismissed it from two of my accounts and it's staying gone. What browser/OS are you using? Does it pop up every time you refresh/go to a new page, or is it intermittent?

107.Monkey.
Dec 7, 2015, 2:02pm Top

I dismissed it and it stayed gone for me, too. I would have let it be, but the extra second to load and shift the page down every time I went back from a thread to the Talk page was driving me insane.

108JerryMmm
Dec 7, 2015, 2:04pm Top

109lorax
Edited: Dec 7, 2015, 2:23pm Top

>106 lorannen:

It's stayed gone now, but for the first 10 minutes or so after I dismissed it it kept popping up again every time I went to a new page.

>107 .Monkey.:

Yeah. A static reminder I could have lived with, but the pop-up effect drove me bananas.

110mellymel171328
Dec 7, 2015, 2:43pm Top

Last 2 hours! So excited!

111crazybatcow
Dec 7, 2015, 2:50pm Top

I forget... can we still get/give suggestions once we're assigned a Santee?

112mellymel171328
Dec 7, 2015, 3:00pm Top

>111 crazybatcow: I believe we can.

113lorannen
Dec 7, 2015, 3:41pm Top

>111 crazybatcow: Absolutely! Comments on SantaThing profiles remain open, even beyond ordering, so Santas (and others) can leave notes about their picks, or a list of other things they'd recommend for their Santee.

114avanders
Dec 7, 2015, 5:02pm Top

!!!!!! Sign-ups are over !!!!!
Let the games begin!!

115mellymel171328
Dec 7, 2015, 5:02pm Top

Oh gosh!

116timspalding
Dec 7, 2015, 5:20pm Top

Okay, officially closed for now. (We'll open it up again, partially, for people who aren't as worried about who picks them.)

Warming up the picking scripts.

117Cariola
Edited: Dec 7, 2015, 7:21pm Top

It would be helpful for those wanting to give suggestions if the participants could be listed alphabetically. I always look forward to making suggestions for those who are unpicked near the end, too.

Hope I can have a little fun and surprise being Santa fun this year. Last year's Santee dictated exactly what I was to buy. :(

118Limelite
Dec 7, 2015, 8:14pm Top

I feel overcome by ho-ho-hoiness.

119timspalding
Dec 7, 2015, 8:57pm Top

Okay, expect emails late tonight or tomorrow morning. Everyone's picked, but Loranne is still dealing with some unintentional duplications and etc. I don't want to release until those are sorted out.

120crazybatcow
Dec 8, 2015, 6:56am Top

It's morning!!!

121mellymel171328
Dec 8, 2015, 7:35am Top

>120 crazybatcow: Good morning SantaThingers! I can't wait to see who gets picked with me!

122timspalding
Dec 8, 2015, 9:23am Top

I need coffee.

123mellymel171328
Dec 8, 2015, 9:24am Top

>122 timspalding: Good morning!

124BoekenTrol71
Dec 8, 2015, 9:33am Top

>122 timspalding: You can have some of mine (hot, black, strong) if you want? It is my afternoon coffee, but it could serve you well also to wake up and get things going :-)

125_Kate_
Edited: Dec 8, 2015, 10:16am Top

It says on the blog I would be messaged this morning who I was picking books for. I've checked my profile messages but I don't seem to received message yet. I do live in the UK and wondered whether it is because of the time difference.

126LibraryPerilous
Dec 8, 2015, 10:17am Top

>125 _Kate_: They haven't been released yet, but they will be soon. Tim's around and working on it. :)

127.Monkey.
Dec 8, 2015, 10:52am Top

>125 _Kate_: Read a mere 6 messages up from yours.

128KarenElissa
Dec 8, 2015, 11:03am Top

It says we have until Dec. 8th at noon to pick books, I'm guessing that is wrong. :)

129mellymel171328
Dec 8, 2015, 11:14am Top

>128 KarenElissa: Not for me.

Crucial dates

Monday, December 7th at 5pm Eastern. Sign-up ends. Secret Santas are chosen, profile messages are sent to the Secret Santa, and you can then enter your gift choices.

Friday, December 11th at 5pm Eastern. At the end of the week, gift picking ends. LibraryThing sends the order via eight tiny ponies to the bookstore you chose.

130rosalita
Dec 8, 2015, 11:20am Top

>129 mellymel171328: It's on the SantaThing page itself, not this thread: You have until Monday December 8th, 12pm Eastern time (17:00 GMT) to decide what you want to give!

If I see someone's name on my SantaThing page (and I do), can I assume that's who I will get in the end? In other words, can I go ahead and start shopping for them?

131thebookmagpie
Dec 8, 2015, 11:23am Top

Hopefully this is okay to post here - Book Riot do a holiday recommendations podcast every year and it occurred to me that it might be a useful source of ideas for book presents that you might not otherwise think of. They also do a fortnightly show with recommendations on a particular topic which could likewise be helpful. You can find them here:

http://bookriot.com/2015/12/07/the-book-riot-podcast-135/
(That's just this year's, if you look through their archives there are ones from at least the last two years, plus two from this summer and last.)

And here:

http://bookriot.com/category/get-booked/

Books on the Nightstand also do a holiday gift guide which you can access from their homepage: http://booksonthenightstand.com/

132mellymel171328
Dec 8, 2015, 11:23am Top

>130 rosalita: oh I'm sorry!

133mellymel171328
Dec 8, 2015, 11:26am Top

It looks like the sorting is going on. Emails should follow soon I'm sure you can start picking if you can see it. I see mine now too.

134LibraryPerilous
Edited: Dec 8, 2015, 11:51am Top

Just chiming in to say I see both of mine too.

Both of mine are for kids' entries, and I do have tons of those books in my library, so I get why the matches were made. But I don't know the first thing about age-appropriateness or reading levels or anything else about children's literature. Oh well, such is the luck of the draw! Maybe next year I'll have that magical perfect match.

ETA: Ooh, I just dug further into the entries, and there's some good advice listed on both of them. This should be fun and a learning experience!

>117 Cariola: I hope you landed a good one this year. :)

135KarenElissa
Dec 8, 2015, 11:58am Top

>134 LibraryPerilous: Let me know if you need help with the kids ones, I'm pretty good with that.

The matching is always interesting, mine intersects on one part of our library, but that isn't what the person asked for, so mine will take some thinking as well.

136Cariola
Dec 8, 2015, 12:06pm Top

Patience, everyone! (But glad to see so much excitement!)

137crazybatcow
Dec 8, 2015, 12:07pm Top

Santee reads what I read... so now I'll have to pick through his/her library for more ideas for myself while I'm checking to make sure I'm not duplicating anything! First time my Santee had such a similar library...

138LibraryPerilous
Dec 8, 2015, 12:14pm Top

>135 KarenElissa: I'll PM you after I've made some picks to see if you think I've hit the right reading levels, if that's okay. Thank you very much for offering to help!

>137 crazybatcow: Have fun and try not to expand your TBR too exponentially (as if!).

139BoekenTrol71
Dec 8, 2015, 12:52pm Top

I'm very happy with my Santee :-)

I was just wondering: I thought last year there was room to leave a comment for the person you picked books for, to explain, or just to wish happy holidays. The store my Santee has picked, has no room for comments with the order.

Do not see that comment box yet. Or, am I just so forgetful that I don't remember that I have to leave my well wishes etc. in the comment / suggestion box?

140BoekenTrol71
Dec 8, 2015, 1:01pm Top

>139 BoekenTrol71: Sorry, did not read very well.
Will leave the message for my Santee in the comment section.

I am so happy with my Santee, that I'm already done. (It happened to be the person I laid eyes on when I was browsing the list, thinking that it would be nice to be matched with them. Did a bit of thinking in advance.)

Thanks for organising again and getting the matching program to pick an awesome match. Now all that is left is to wait and see what my Santee thinks of the books picked :-)

141majkia
Dec 8, 2015, 1:11pm Top

Also very happy with my Santee. I've already chosen for her, and it was a delight.

142KarenElissa
Dec 8, 2015, 1:18pm Top

You changed the deadline date, but not the day, it still says Monday instead of Friday.

143wester
Dec 8, 2015, 1:33pm Top

I did not get any e-mail, but I can see my Santee on the SantaThing page. If I hadn't been following this thread I would not have known. Did something go wrong, or is the e-mail late/am I too impatient?

144Cariola
Dec 8, 2015, 1:34pm Top

I have a short list picked out for my Santee, but I'm going to wait a few days before I order and see if anyone makes suggestions (since I do not know her).

145Candice_oxo
Edited: Dec 8, 2015, 1:39pm Top

This is probably my fifth year of doing this and it's the first time I feel like the matches were SPOT on! While it's fun to get a library that has nothing in common with your own and to explore new interests, there's some sort of exciting magical good juju feeling (like my description there?) when you get matched with someone who has the same interests that you do. Awesome matching this year, little SantaThing elves! I hope you're able to rest now while we all continue on with the fun. If I could show up on your porches with some coffee I so would. ;)

146crazy4reading
Dec 8, 2015, 1:36pm Top

I see my match. Now the fun begins. Not sure if I will be able to pick for this one. Not too much in common, but I love the challenge.

147rosalita
Dec 8, 2015, 1:43pm Top

>132 mellymel171328: No worries! The original post didn't specify, so I thought just as you did until I clicked through to the SantaThing page.

148lorannen
Dec 8, 2015, 1:51pm Top

>130 rosalita: Sorry for the date discrepancy. All fixed! To be clear, you have until Friday, Dec. 11th, at 5pm Eastern to pick books for your Santee.

>134 LibraryPerilous: If you'd like to pick some books for an adult, I've already got a last-minute Santee who I need to match up with someone. Let me know if you're interested!

>131 thebookmagpie: Totally okay to post!

149Candice_oxo
Dec 8, 2015, 1:53pm Top

I'll take any last minute stragglers who need books picked for them, if there's any unassigned and leftover! :)

150Tia00017
Dec 8, 2015, 2:03pm Top

How do we tell which book store our giftee chose? It doesn't say in their profile, all TBA's

151rosalita
Edited: Dec 8, 2015, 2:25pm Top

Never mind -- I got an email response to my question from the unflappable lorannen!

152susanna.fraser
Dec 8, 2015, 2:20pm Top

One of my Santees (I have three) doesn't have a bookstore selected. How do I know where to shop?

Here's what it looks like:

Store: ()

153lorannen
Dec 8, 2015, 2:35pm Top

>150 Tia00017: Your Santee was a last-minute add. I'm waiting to hear back from her with regard to her bookstore preference. I can message you once that's updated!

>152 susanna.fraser: Your Santee forgot to select a store. I messaged them yesterday to see if we can't clear that up. I'll message you once I've updated your Santee's store!

154Tia00017
Dec 8, 2015, 2:41pm Top

>lorannen Thanks!

155zjakkelien
Edited: Dec 8, 2015, 2:50pm Top

Say, no-one has answered this question yet: >143 wester:, and I have the same thing. I didn't get any message yet. Did something go wrong?

edit: Hey, now I do have a message. Strange... And I had been browsing LT for a bit already, so it was not just that I hadn't refreshed in a while.

156_Kate_
Dec 8, 2015, 2:53pm Top

I also don't mind picking books for anyone left without a partner. Got my own secret santa person sorted and it was definitely an interesting challenge picking books for a YA fan.

157DanieXJ
Dec 8, 2015, 3:04pm Top

Okay. I know that this has been answered in previous years, but the amount is showing up in USD, but the store is Amazon UK, so I forget what I do, and what do I enter into the form.

Do I enter the amounts in pounds, or in USD? (Although I did go to the Wiki page and see the conversion from USD to Pounds).

158Sahara20
Dec 8, 2015, 3:07pm Top

Funnily enough I had read the request info from the person I am picking for and had this strange feeling I'd get matched to them!

I need to pick from Amazon.com - does anyone know any sneaky methods to search for a book by price? If I get the book I am thinking of I'll have $3 left over and I'd love to find something to fill that gap but don't seem to be having much luck finding anything.

159lorannen
Dec 8, 2015, 3:08pm Top

>157 DanieXJ: USD, please!

160lorannen
Dec 8, 2015, 3:10pm Top

>158 Sahara20: That can be tricky. When gets down to the wire like that, here are two principles I use to guide me:

1) Classics are a good option, if they're viable for your Santee

2) We'd definitely rather have you go a little bit over-budget, than stay $3 under.

Feel free to post here if you're in need of suggestions to fill in that gap!

161.Monkey.
Dec 8, 2015, 3:13pm Top

Yeah, Wordsworth classics are real cheap, a good many available for around $4.

162DanieXJ
Dec 8, 2015, 3:15pm Top

>159 lorannen: Okay. So, I should take the GBP from Amazon uk and put it in USD in the form. And then I'll make sure I'm under the USD # above the form. Okay. Will Do.

Thank you for the answer, and for all that you're doing in these hectic hectic weeks :D

163Sahara20
Dec 8, 2015, 3:19pm Top

Thank you lorannen. I'll keep browsing for now as I have some time to do so, but may well post for help if I continue to struggle. Good to know I can go a hint over budget as that at least widens the scope a little. Many thanks.

164Candice_oxo
Dec 8, 2015, 3:22pm Top

>158 Sahara20: I just had that same issue but found a YA novel from the 90s/early 2000s for $3! Are they interested in young adult?

165Jillian_Kay
Dec 8, 2015, 3:25pm Top

Does anyone know if I can look at what's available in iBooks without having to download iTunes?

166Candice_oxo
Edited: Dec 8, 2015, 3:30pm Top

Is anyone having a hard time finding books from Sherman's? I wonder if one of my Santees accidentally chose Sherman's. None of their interests seem to be available in that particular store.

167Sahara20
Dec 8, 2015, 3:29pm Top

>164 Candice_oxo: Well done for solving your price problems! Thank you but I'm afraid I'm looking at fairly specific history books or classics.

168KarenElissa
Dec 8, 2015, 3:33pm Top

>166 Candice_oxo: From the help page:

Picking books from Sherman's

Sherman's does not have a website we can use to place orders online—LT staff will be coordinating orders directly with Sherman's. If your Santee has selected Sherman's as their store, feel free to do your shopping on Amazon, Powell's, or Book Depository's websites, and base your pricing/budgeting on list prices for all books.

For example, on Amazon, the primary price displayed is Amazon's own sale price. You can find the "list price" just below the Amazon price, usually slightly greyed out and with a line through it.

Note: The Sherman's website is not accurate or relevant for SantaThing. Do not use that site to do your shopping for Santees who've selected Sherman's as their store of choice.

169lorannen
Dec 8, 2015, 3:36pm Top

>168 KarenElissa: Thanks for that! That is correct!

>165 Jillian_Kay: That is the problem with picking from iBooks—I'm sorry I didn't realize this before setting it as a store option this year, and it may not be on our list next year. Within iTunes, I've found it very easy. That said, if it's a hassle for you, just drop me a private message (or email), and I'll have someone else cover that Santee. I've even got someone else you can pick for!

170Jillian_Kay
Dec 8, 2015, 3:40pm Top

That's okay. I'll look at it from my husband's mac tonight. Thanks!

171susanna.fraser
Dec 8, 2015, 3:48pm Top

172amanda4242
Dec 8, 2015, 3:49pm Top

Ack! I just looked at my Santee's library and discovered that their tastes are pretty much the exact opposite of mine. If anyone can offer suggestions, I would be eternally grateful!

173wester
Dec 8, 2015, 3:55pm Top

>143 wester: >155 zjakkelien: I got my message just now as well. Maybe it's a Dutch thing?

>160 lorannen: It's good to know I can go a little bit over budget if necessary - I got some books that I love and I think my Santee will too, and now I need to fill $4,57.

174crazy4reading
Dec 8, 2015, 4:15pm Top

>165 Jillian_Kay: I have that same problem here at work. I am heading home and going to do some looking there.

175Ape
Dec 8, 2015, 4:31pm Top

168: Oh! Thank you so much for posting this! I was very disappointed when looking at their website.

The LT Staff really needs to make it more clear how the Sherman's store works. Even if it's just a global profile message to SantaThing participants. Had I not sought this thread out I wouldn't have known this, and would have just picked from the limited selection of books on their website.

176lorannen
Edited: Dec 8, 2015, 4:35pm Top

>175 Ape: Sorry about that. Somebody went in and changed some store links when I wasn't looking. The link on your Santee's profile (if they picked Sherman's) was supposed to be going to the section of the SantaThing Help Page cited in >168 KarenElissa:. I've fixed it so it's back where it should be, hopefully avoiding further confusion.

177lorannen
Dec 8, 2015, 4:52pm Top

Just a heads-up to all on this thread: I have to go be heads-down working on getting December Early Reviewers books up and ready for requests. I'll be back! If you've got an urgent question that can't wait an hour or two, though, it might be best to drop me a direct message, either via LT or email (loranne@librarything.com). Thanks for your patience!

178LibraryPerilous
Dec 8, 2015, 4:54pm Top

>148 lorannen: Thank you, Loranne. If the late-add Santee still needs a Santa, I definitely am ready, willing, and able. If this is too late of a reply, no worries and thanks again for offering. :)

179LibraryPerilous
Dec 8, 2015, 4:59pm Top

>167 Sahara20: You might find something suitable in Dover's Thrift Editions line. Many of their titles are 2.50-3.00 USD. They all are public domain classics, and you can find some history titles amongst the offerings.

180Sahara20
Dec 8, 2015, 5:26pm Top

>179 LibraryPerilous: Oh wonderful, thank you for the suggestion. I shall go looking tomorrow as it's getting fairly late in the UK now.

181crazy4reading
Dec 8, 2015, 7:36pm Top

>177 lorannen: I have not been able to find the ISBN or ASIN on iTunes. I have just been putting the link in with the title and price. I just want to make sure that is fine.

182lorannen
Dec 8, 2015, 7:43pm Top

>181 crazy4reading: Well, that's frustrating (for you), I'm sure. I can find it on certain versions of iTunes/iBooks, but after testing my iTunes installation on my PC, I'm seeing the same thing you are.

In any case, link, title, and price is absolutely fine. I'm sorry iBooks has been a pain.

183Candice_oxo
Dec 8, 2015, 8:30pm Top

>168 KarenElissa: Thank you so much Karen, I totally missed that bit about Sherman's! That helps so much! Phew.

184Cariola
Edited: Dec 8, 2015, 8:43pm Top

>172 amanda4242: Check to see if your Santee has a Wish List on LT. You could also check the profile page to see what groups the person is in or if they have an LT friend you know who might make suggestions.

185AngelaB86
Dec 8, 2015, 9:04pm Top

Is there a way to check and see if our book choices are submitted? I clicked "save choices" but I can't see any message confirming the save.

186bestem
Dec 8, 2015, 9:13pm Top

>185 AngelaB86: Go back to the SantaThing page and refresh, there should be a green checkmark.

187AngelaB86
Dec 8, 2015, 9:14pm Top

Ah, thank you!

188bestem
Dec 8, 2015, 9:20pm Top

>187 AngelaB86: I clicked "save choices" 5 times expecting some indication that they went through, but nothing, I went back to the SantaThing page and scrolled down to see if anyone had been picked for and there were some, so I refreshed the page to see if my person went down to picked...and then saw the green checkmark. So don't worry, you're not alone.

189lorannen
Dec 8, 2015, 9:22pm Top

>185 AngelaB86: and >188 bestem: Thanks for the feedback on that, and I'm sorry for the confusion! It's too late for this year, but I'll see if we can't get some confirmation message in there to let you know your picks have been successfully saved for next year.

190AngelaB86
Dec 8, 2015, 9:51pm Top

That would be nice for next year. Maybe for now, put a note on the SantaThing page to let people know what to check for?

191lorannen
Dec 8, 2015, 11:00pm Top

>190 AngelaB86: I'm concerned about cluttering up the main SantaThing page with more text nobody will read, however, I've updated the SantaThing Help Page (specifically the "Saving Your Picks" section) to include this information.

192amanda4242
Dec 9, 2015, 12:43am Top

>184 Cariola: Thanks for the suggestions. They are a very new LT member--joined in the last week--so they don't have much of a presence here yet, but they just joined a couple of groups, so I'll see what I can come up with. They do have a wishlist I can pick from, but I like to share things I've liked with others, which may be difficult here since our tastes are so at odds.

193.Monkey.
Dec 9, 2015, 5:09am Top

>192 amanda4242: While I understand the inclination (I'm sure all book-lovers do), taste in books is completely subjective. Please please don't try to base book picks (not just for this moment, either!) based on things you have liked, unless you are picking for someone with near identical taste. We love to share the books we love, I know, but it's rare for those we want to share them with to actually have any interest in those same books.

194BoekenTrol71
Dec 9, 2015, 6:01am Top

>193 .Monkey.: >192 amanda4242:
You could pick books you likedwhen your Santee specifically asks for it. I have seen people write things like 'surprise me' and 'pick books from category X or Y' that you loved'.
Of course always check the no-no's and books already listed here on LT. :-)

195.Monkey.
Dec 9, 2015, 6:22am Top

Well yes, if someone explicitly says to do so. But otherwise...

196RidgewayGirl
Dec 9, 2015, 6:35am Top

Don't people often say to choose from their wish lists when they are especially concerned? It takes some of the fun out of choosing, but it does mean someone who is worried they might get a book they might not enjoy still has a way to participate.

197crazybatcow
Dec 9, 2015, 7:01am Top

>196 RidgewayGirl: I put my preferences, but a few years ago my Santa was, apparently, stumped and ended up not picking my books, or picked part of them and the LT people had to fill out the order at the last minute. It was, to put it politely, very disappointing when I opened my package. So now I add that my Wishlist is current in case Santa is stumped.

198crazybatcow
Edited: Dec 9, 2015, 8:01am Top

oh... santee santee santee... whyfor do you have all the best books already...
edited to add... I really do have to stop reading such trashy novels...

199melawen
Dec 9, 2015, 8:26am Top

I do love it when our collections broadly match and I am given more or less free rein! I just hope that my selections work for them!

200kristilabrie
Dec 9, 2015, 10:00am Top

>143 wester: >155 zjakkelien: and >173 wester: I believe you got the profile comments just when we sent them - we must have had some last minute matchings to do before sending the notification out, and our eager Santas found their Santees before we told y'all about them (myself included!) ;)

201Candice_oxo
Dec 9, 2015, 11:03am Top

I see that I'm still "unpicked" so I hope that I'm not stumping my Santa!! If I am and I've tortured my Santa this year, please reach out through someone else if you have questions about my tastes/wishes. Perhaps they could ask me some questions on your behalf (so you don't reveal yourself!).

202mellymel171328
Dec 9, 2015, 11:07am Top

>201 Candice_oxo: heck I'm excited to see what they pick for you. I think we have very similar tastes in books. If you want tomorrow if they haven't picked I can try to be a go between for you.

203crazybatcow
Dec 9, 2015, 11:14am Top

Got my picking done!!! 5 cents over! very much fun... had to use a spreadsheet and shuffle books in and out to get this close to the amount.

204Candice_oxo
Dec 9, 2015, 11:25am Top

>202 mellymel171328: You're the best!! I know..I always sneak back to your profile every year to see what was picked for you too, because I am so in alignment with your tastes! If my Santa is reading this, ladylenneth would be the best go-between out there if you're stumped!

205lorannen
Dec 9, 2015, 11:27am Top

>203 crazybatcow: That is some dedicated SantaThinging. And here I thought I was the only one who got to use spreadsheets for SantaThing. I kind of love spreadsheets, and I get all the fun of seeing ALL the books.

Speaking of seeing all the books, I'm thinking of putting all SantaThing picks in an LT List this year, in order of most frequently picked to least, rather than a separate account. I'm open to thoughts on this, if you've got 'em.

206mellymel171328
Dec 9, 2015, 11:32am Top

>204 Candice_oxo: oh gosh! Now I'm nervous!

207thebookmagpie
Dec 9, 2015, 11:44am Top

If my Santa is having trouble picking for me, my boyfriend got an account recently (https://www.librarything.com/profile/Chouffeblob) and he'd be willing to give you pointers and double-check that I haven't got whatever you pick! He definitely won't tell me, he knows how much I like suspense/the surprise.

208majkia
Dec 9, 2015, 11:47am Top

>205 lorannen: Oh, that's a great idea!

209LibraryPerilous
Dec 9, 2015, 11:50am Top

>192 amanda4242: I left a suggestion on your Santee's page. Good luck!

210LibraryPerilous
Dec 9, 2015, 11:57am Top

>198 crazybatcow: My reading fell off a cliff this year, especially after my favorite baseball team made a run all the way to the World Series. My brain didn't want to process any 'smart books,' as my mom calls them, from August through November. I feel sorry for whomever was matched with my 'I want highly technical science books by scientists' entry; Santa probably wondered why I was requesting them.

>205 lorannen: I think a list, especially an ordered one, is a great idea.

211Peace2
Dec 9, 2015, 12:07pm Top

This is my first time picking books for someone else so I'm full of nerves. Can I just check, because I'm slightly confused, on the selection page it says that the amount spent must be less than (or equal to) the recipient's total whereas following this thread, people are talking about being a little over. I've recalculated several times (and one of the books I was choosing changed by a whole dollar between yesterday and today which threw all my calculations off as that book had been the one constant in all my different possible combinations!) and have come to an amount which is 10 cents over - is this acceptable or do I need to try again to get just under?

212Peace2
Dec 9, 2015, 12:09pm Top

>211 Peace2: Also a second question to add to that. There have been no added comments/suggestions from anyone else, should I just go ahead and pick or should I hold off in case anyone else comes up with better ideas?

213.Monkey.
Dec 9, 2015, 12:14pm Top

>211 Peace2: Loranne already said above, but yes, it has always been allowed to be slightly over. You are fine.

214Tia00017
Dec 9, 2015, 12:15pm Top

Is it okay if I'm around $3 under budget? Or do you need to spend exactly the budget set out? If they want books on Kindle, there's no shipping to factor in, so is it still okay to be under budget by a few dollars?

215mellymel171328
Dec 9, 2015, 12:24pm Top

>214 Tia00017: All you can do is get the closest you can. That 3 dollars you can't fill it will probably pay for a couple .80 over. :)

216mellymel171328
Dec 9, 2015, 12:24pm Top

That is just speculation I have no idea how this works.

217rosalita
Dec 9, 2015, 12:41pm Top

>214 Tia00017: There are so many e-books available for $1.99 or $2.99 that are not dreck, especially at Amazon where they have large (and month-long) sales. If I were doing the picking, I would take a look at the Kindle special deals to see if there's something there that matches the Santee's interests and gets you closer to your spending amount without going over. But that's just me.

218mellymel171328
Dec 9, 2015, 12:51pm Top

I thought there was a limit on how low you could go.

219Cariola
Edited: Dec 9, 2015, 1:41pm Top

>218 mellymel171328: Loranne advised someone earlier not to leave a $3 balance. People suggested Dover Editions and Wordsworth Classics. I think you could also add a nice bookmark instead, right, loranne?

220Cariola
Dec 9, 2015, 1:40pm Top

>205 lorannen: I really like that idea!

>196 RidgewayGirl: et al: I'd rather be stumped than get what I did last year. My Santee dictated EXACTLY what books I was to buy and wasn't open to anything else. Why participate? Why not just buy them for yourself?

My Santee does not have a wish list, but we're close enough in taste that I don't anticipate a problem. I made a list of books, and the closest I can come to her limit is 23 cents over. I'll keep trying to get closer.

221anglemark
Edited: Dec 9, 2015, 1:44pm Top

>219 Cariola: As long as it has an ISBN number.

222lorannen
Edited: Dec 9, 2015, 2:02pm Top

>219 Cariola: Yes! Sorry—I was finishing up some other stuff, so I had some catching up to do in this thread.

Ideally, we want to keep things as close to the budget as possible as you can, without going over. That said, we'd always rather you go $0.50 over than be $3 under. In placing orders, if the Santa's picks are $2 or more under-budget, I'll do some reworking of the order to try to get it closer.

There is technically a minimum on SantaThing items—$2.50. That said, Kindle is sort of a special case, and I'd say go ahead and pick something below that if you think it's a good fit for your Santee.

223majkia
Dec 9, 2015, 1:57pm Top

>220 Cariola: I came out about 34 cents over, but since mine also involves different currencies I'm leaving it that way.

224lorannen
Dec 9, 2015, 2:05pm Top

I appreciate that everyone wants to make sure their Santee is getting their money's worth out of SantaThing, but I want to encourage you all not to stress out about it too much. LT Staff checks each order, placing them individually. Your Santees are in good hands!

225lorannen
Dec 9, 2015, 2:07pm Top

So, I've got LT member Vermilious as one of my Santees this year, who also happens to be a friend of mine in real life. Surprise surprise, we have similar reading tastes! I'm confident I'll pick some good books for them, but I thought I'd put out a call for some suggestions, too, as I know there's good stuff out there that may not be on my radar. Here's their SantaThing profile: http://www.librarything.com/santathing_thing.php?id=287

Thanks in advance for any suggestions!

226rosalita
Dec 9, 2015, 2:21pm Top

Can someone refresh my memory? In ordering from amazon.com, is it OK to choose books that are available from third-party sellers, as long as they qualify for the free shipping offer?

227lorannen
Edited: Dec 9, 2015, 2:24pm Top

>226 rosalita: Unfortunately, no. You'll have to stick with books available from Amazon directly.

228rosalita
Dec 9, 2015, 2:31pm Top

>227 lorannen: Thanks, lorannen! That narrows the search, at least. :-)

229LibraryPerilous
Dec 9, 2015, 2:42pm Top

>225 lorannen: Left some suggestions

230Cariola
Dec 9, 2015, 2:49pm Top

>222 lorannen: I requested Kindle books for myself, but I believe I am to order print books for my Santee; it simply says amazon.com. Is that correct?

231lorannen
Dec 9, 2015, 2:53pm Top

>230 Cariola: Yep, that's right! Santees who've picked Kindle say "Amazon.com Kindle Only."

232amanda4242
Dec 9, 2015, 3:06pm Top

>193 .Monkey.: I've had enough awful books foisted on me by well-meaning people to know how very true that it is. However, in past SantaThings I've been matched with people whose tastes were similar enough to mine that I could chose a book that I liked with confidence that they would enjoy it too. This year my santee specifically asked for fiction, but their library is largely nonfiction works on one subject and they didn't seem too enthusiastic about getting fiction on that subject, so I've been a bit lost.

>209 LibraryPerilous: Thank you! That's a great sugestion!

233Tia00017
Dec 9, 2015, 4:35pm Top

I will check it out. Thanks!

234DanieXJ
Dec 9, 2015, 7:08pm Top

Oof, I'm a little lost this year too. Ok, back to searching.

235JMC400m
Dec 9, 2015, 7:34pm Top

I can't believe I missed Santathing this year. Anyone want to do it with me privately let me know as I am so sad to have missed this!

236LibraryPerilous
Edited: Dec 9, 2015, 7:42pm Top

>235 JMC400m: You can PM lorannen and see if you can still enter. She tries to match latecomers as both Santas and Santees if there are enough. If not, you might at least still be able to enter and have someone pick books for you. And you can always log in on Friday after the picking closes to snag one of the orphans.

237lorannen
Dec 9, 2015, 7:48pm Top

>235 JMC400m: I'm might be able to sneak you in still, if we get it done fast. Sent you a message directly!

238mellymel171328
Dec 9, 2015, 8:10pm Top

>237 lorannen: youre amazing!

239Limelite
Dec 9, 2015, 8:37pm Top

lorannen the Algorithm Queen, I'd say. Couldn't be a better match; Santee was clear in what they hoped to receive; I was grateful for the recipient providing a Wish List, even though I was confused whether it was on Amazon or on LT. Found it eventually.

Wondering if Santee indicates choose from Amazon, if they get FREE 2-day delivery should they be Prime members. Or does Prime require some further ID at point of purchase that Santa Thing can't provide? It would be great in the future to be able to say, "Pls. shop at Amazon because I have a Prime membership."

Anyway, I had great fun shopping for my Santee this year and feel confident because of his/her clear indications, that s/he won't be disappointed!

240lorannen
Dec 9, 2015, 8:47pm Top

>239 Limelite: Thanks for your kind words, and I'm so glad to hear we picked the right Santee for you this year!

With regards to Amazon Prime: it would be nice if we could take advantage of Prime benefits, but, unfortunately, because SantaThing payments come through LT first (instead of going directly into placing an Amazon order), we can't use Prime's handy shipping options.

A number of LT staffers have Prime memberships, and I know that a few years ago—before my time—we upset Amazon for being a company attempting to use an individual's Prime membership. Amazon Prime for businesses is a thing that exists, but, given that LT would only use it once a year, the cost just doesn't make sense for us.

241crazy4reading
Dec 9, 2015, 9:14pm Top

I have picked my books for my Santee and the green check did not show up. I think it is because I don't have ISB/ASIN since they are iBooks and there aren't any listed for them.

242lorannen
Dec 9, 2015, 9:15pm Top

>241 crazy4reading: Yep, that would be why. Looking at your picks for your Santee, I can see that they're saved, so you're good to go. Sorry about the green checkmark confusion. Putting in my notes for next year to check that title is filled out, rather than ISBN/ASIN fields. Thanks!

243crazy4reading
Dec 9, 2015, 9:21pm Top

>242 lorannen: Thank you. Just wanted you to know for the end when there are unclaimed ones left. Thanks for everything.

244tottman
Dec 9, 2015, 10:09pm Top

Got my picks done and came in 7 cents under, assuming prices don't change between now and Friday. Good match this year! It was a lot of fun picking out the books.

I'm also available to help out with any unclaimed santees.

245Cariola
Dec 9, 2015, 10:25pm Top

Love helping with the unpicked Santees, too!

246guido47
Dec 10, 2015, 1:24am Top

Hmm, $US2 under and only 2 books. I hope this $2.04 helps someone!

247crazybatcow
Dec 10, 2015, 8:42am Top

All entered and saved!!! yay! Merry Christmas!!! More books than fit in the little boxes, but hopefully it all makes sense. Over by 1 penny. hahahaha....

248BoekenTrol71
Dec 10, 2015, 8:55am Top

There's still a lot of Santees not picked. And only 26 hours left before gift picking closes!

249melawen
Dec 10, 2015, 8:58am Top

I'm more than happy to help pick the unpicked Santees!!

250mellymel171328
Dec 10, 2015, 9:03am Top

I am done with the picking for me and my sons!

251BoekenTrol71
Dec 10, 2015, 9:15am Top

>249 melawen: I am too, but I have no idea how that works.

252LibraryPerilous
Dec 10, 2015, 9:28am Top

>251 BoekenTrol71: The Santees who are unpicked tomorrow when Loranne closes it will be put up for adoption. You can snag as many as you like and become their Santa.

LT staff also will post requests for book suggestions on Santees who need more books to reach the amount they've paid. Those requests will start appearing on this thread once the ordering begins, and anyone can leave suggestions for Loranne and Co. to consider.

And, of course, you can leave suggestions on the unpicked Santees' entries today, in case their Santas just need some good ideas to get them started.

253lorannen
Edited: Dec 10, 2015, 11:19am Top

Just to clarify, book picking closes at 5pm Eastern tomorrow, so you've got just under 30 hours left to finishing picking. Apologies for the confusion. There were multiple places on the SantaThing page where the end of book picking time was posted, and I'd missed one in updating the page for this year.

ETA: I'll be sending out profile comment reminders at the 24-hour mark to all Santas of those unpicked.

254susanna.fraser
Dec 10, 2015, 12:13pm Top

>253 lorannen: Since there's still not a bookstore listed for my Santee, should I just list some picks from Amazon that y'all can go with? I have to finish picking tonight, since I can't be poking around on online bookstores at work.

255lorannen
Dec 10, 2015, 12:43pm Top

>254 susanna.fraser: Yes, please. I've tried getting in touch with your Santee multiple times, and have yet to hear back from them with regard to their store choice. I'm sorry! Amazon is likely what we'll go with if I continue to receive no response.

256lorannen
Dec 10, 2015, 1:17pm Top

General note about saving your picks: I thought we'd already fixed the bug from last year which limited the ISBN/ASIN field to 13 characters, but I was mistaken. We've now fixed it.

What this means is that, if you entered the ISBN-13 for your picks, and did not remove the dashes (i.e. if you saved it as "978-0807064733" instead of "9780807064733"), the last digit of the ISBN was cut off.

So, if you entered only the ISBN, and not a link, or title, and the last digit of the ISBN was cut off like this, I have no way of knowing what books you actually intended to pick for your Santee.

The bug is now fixed—entering an ISBN-13, with or without dashes, will result in our system pulling up the ISBN-10, to avoid this problem. If you only saved ISBNs on your Santee's SantaThing profile, and you'd like to double-check your ISBNs and make sure they saved properly, it would be much appreciated. Later today, I'll be going through each SantaThing profile to check for this, and messaging Santas whose picks were affected directly.

I'm very sorry I didn't catch this earlier. Thanks, everyone.

257BoekenTrol71
Dec 10, 2015, 1:55pm Top

>252 LibraryPerilous: Thanks! I will keep an eye on this thread :-)

258RidgewayGirl
Dec 10, 2015, 3:30pm Top

I just finished picking for my Santee and managed to come in 8 cents under. I was very pleased. Now I hope they like the books I chose!

259Cariola
Dec 10, 2015, 4:05pm Top

>258 RidgewayGirl: You did a great job of picking for me last year!

260rosalita
Dec 10, 2015, 4:19pm Top

Ugh, this is the time I hate. Seeing my name still listed among the unpicked makes me feel unloved. Twice I've been left orphaned and had to have a rescue Santa, and while I'm very grateful that the rescue Santas pitch in the way they do I could definitely tell they were rush jobs. I've got my fingers crossed that my Santa is working on it and just hasn't filled out the form yet ...

261lorax
Dec 10, 2015, 4:22pm Top

I didn't participate this year (not enough time to pick), but if I do next year I will obviously have to say prominently in my "Don't do this" that I really would prefer quality matches over quantity spent, and would not want people to aim to be right at or over the limit rather than aiming at getting the best possible matches. $3 under matters much less to me than getting good books would, but that seems to be a minority opinion based on how much care people are putting into getting the prices exactly right.

262anglemark
Dec 10, 2015, 4:34pm Top

>256 lorannen: So, if you entered only the ISBN, and not a link, or title, and the last digit of the ISBN was cut off like this, I have no way of knowing what books you actually intended to pick for your Santee.

As the last digit is a check digit, there is only one possible ISBN number that the first twelve digits correspond to, and here you can calculate that lost check digit: http://www.hahnlibrary.net/libraries/isbncalc.html

263Candice_oxo
Dec 10, 2015, 4:36pm Top

>260 rosalita: If it makes you feel better, I'm unpicked too! But also if it makes you feel any better, I'd be super excited if I got to be your rescue Santa. I'd love picking for you! Just sending you a little holiday good juju.

264lorannen
Edited: Dec 10, 2015, 4:50pm Top

>262 anglemark: Ooh, that is incredibly useful. I knew there had to be something like that out there, but I've been a little too swamped to go digging. I cannot thank you enough!

ETA: Oh, for Pete's sake. I can't get the page to load on any of my browsers. But it works fine if I go through browserstack. Guess this is the latest in the string of websites from which my IP address has been blocked. Once SantaThing is over, I get to go have some fun conversations with Comcast.

265.Monkey.
Dec 10, 2015, 5:09pm Top

>264 lorannen: Oh man, Comcast is the devil, good luck having the patience to deal with that convo!!

266lorannen
Dec 10, 2015, 5:37pm Top

>265 .Monkey.: It's bonkers. This will make my fifth phone call to them about this issue. If there were an alternative ISP in my area, I would have switched long ago. Thanks for the kind wishes.

267crazybatcow
Dec 10, 2015, 6:28pm Top

>261 lorax: I made a spreadsheet with a list of books that I thought my santee would like, added in their prices, grouped by "genre", then selected different combinations of them to get the closest to the total. (ended up with 8 columns of possible combos) If I had had an unlimited budget I would have picked the entire list... so hitting the dollar amount was a bonus, but before I had even looked at the prices, I had come up with a list of potential fits and would have been comfortable sending any combination of them (well, as comfortable with any combination of them as it's possible to be... one never knows if someone else will like something... ;-)

268julienne_preacher
Dec 10, 2015, 6:36pm Top

I wonder if the prices I'm seeing at the Book Depository site are anywhere near the real prices for the US (I'm in Finland). My Santee is expecting three books for $30, but every book I come up with costs at least $11. Should I take a risk and pick three books that sum up to about $35, or just choose two pricier ones (against their wishes) for $30?

269Ape
Dec 10, 2015, 6:38pm Top

261: Yeah, I think it's natural for people to not want to "rip off" their Santee, so I'm sure most people try to get as close to the budget as possible. Making it clear that you don't mind if they are a few dollars off would probably be both for you and your Santa. :)

270Ape
Dec 10, 2015, 6:42pm Top

268: When I was browsing Book Depository I found that filtering out everything except paperbacks gave me books either listed at $12.04 or $9.02, going by list prices. I know Book Depository prices things locally though, and that has caused problems with ordering in the past.

271lorannen
Dec 10, 2015, 6:44pm Top

>268 julienne_preacher: Good question! Book Depository does let you select what currency you're viewing the site under, via a little drop-down menu in the upper-right corner. Just make sure you're looking at USD. $11 sounds pretty average for a paperback, so I'd say those prices sound accurate.

While a few cents over is okay, $5 over-budget is too far, unfortunately. We'd have to take one of your picks off the order, and try to find a cheaper edition/alternate title. Mass market paperbacks are typically a good place to look for things $8ish and under.

It took some reading, but I finally found where I think you got the message your Santee wants three total books. What their profile actually says is that they want tree books, meaning paper copies only. This is a somewhat moot point to mention in their SantaThing profile, since they selected a non-ebook retailer as their store, and we cannot mix and match ebooks and paper copies in SantaThing entries.

272Cariola
Dec 10, 2015, 6:46pm Top

>260 rosalita: I've got my eye on you if you remain unpicked, and I have already got a list of possibilities!

273lorannen
Dec 10, 2015, 6:46pm Top

>270 Ape: That's also true. Book Depository's prices can be somewhat mystifying, but rest assured that we'll help make sure your Santee gets their money's worth in placing the order.

274julienne_preacher
Edited: Dec 10, 2015, 7:06pm Top

>271 lorannen: Thank you for clarification! I had no idea there was such a term, just read the word as a misspelled three...

275Ape
Dec 10, 2015, 6:59pm Top

It's a post-ebook slang term for physical books, either "tree books" or "dead-tree books." :)

276KateBaxter
Edited: Dec 10, 2015, 7:59pm Top

>267 crazybatcow: : Great minds think alike. I did the exact same thing. You are so right; if the budget was unlimited, my Santee would be swimming in fabulous books. I just hope Santee enjoys the selection.

277avanders
Dec 10, 2015, 7:59pm Top

>276 KateBaxter: I know.... Hey I've been wondering, Lorannen .. maybe in the future, could we open up the possibility of the santa spending a few extra bucks if they're in that kind of situation? Maybe it's just me, but I would have been happy to provide a little extra to get the books I *really* wanted to get (one was too expensive)....??

278KateBaxter
Dec 10, 2015, 8:00pm Top

>277 avanders:: I like your thinking.

279meggyweg
Dec 10, 2015, 8:12pm Top

I would happily adopt an orphaned Santee. I love choosing presents for people.

280Myckyee
Edited: Dec 10, 2015, 9:05pm Top

I just chose books for my Santee, clicked save, and they disappeared. :/

ETA: Tried again and it stuck this time.

281realityshowgirl
Dec 10, 2015, 9:48pm Top

I saved mine twice to make sure they stuck. I actually picked once and accidentally hit the refresh button and lost the original, but when I picked the 2nd got closer to the amount as I could get. I am also willing to adopt someone else if needed. I can't wait to see what I get. I hope the person I had enjoys the ones I chose.

282Limelite
Dec 10, 2015, 10:55pm Top

S'pose after being Santa to my Santee that I'm eligible to be a Santa's Elf for orphans? Sure would like to be.

283rosalita
Dec 10, 2015, 11:10pm Top

They picked for me! They picked for me! The sun came out and the birds sang a joyful holiday tune!

>263 Candice_oxo: and >272 Cariola: Thank you Candice and Cariola for all the good Santa vibes. I think you made it happen. :-)

284lorannen
Dec 10, 2015, 11:31pm Top

>282 Limelite: Absolutely! I'll be posting here once orphaned Santees are up for grabs, tomorrow evening.

285Candice_oxo
Dec 10, 2015, 11:51pm Top

I'll be here all day tomorrow so feel free to send unpicked Santees my way!

286AngelaB86
Dec 11, 2015, 12:04am Top

Nice to see the unpicked list is down by almost half since the last time I checked. If there's anyone left tomorrow, I'd like to adopt.

287BoekenTrol71
Dec 11, 2015, 12:12am Top

>269 Ape: Thank you, it's a good idea to add a comment like that to my Santa Thing profile next year.

288MrsLee
Dec 11, 2015, 12:25am Top

>277 avanders: I was wishing that very thing! It took me quite a lot of juggling to come up with two books at the rate my Santee paid for. If I could have contributed a little extra, no problem, and I would have been so happy to do so, but it seems like quite the nightmare for our poor LT staff.

I like >261 lorax: suggestion of saying whether a person would prefer quantity to quality. On my santee's wishlist was a book I would have purchased, but it was about $7.00 short of their total, and I couldn't find any books for that price on their vendor of choice. It would have been nice to know whether they wanted as many books as possible, or a specific book from their wishlist even if they had paid a bit more that the book cost for their SantaThing.

289RidgewayGirl
Edited: Dec 11, 2015, 2:10am Top

>261 lorax: I had a long list of possible books for my Santee, which I winnowed down to a short list of six, two of which I really wanted to get them. Playing around with the four remaining books got me to my eight cents under, not some desire to just come close to the amount to spend. I know what you mean, but it didn't happen here. It just worked out that way and it pleased me.

And for those of you still unpicked -- I was one of those people last year, with a last minute Santa, and the books selected for me were fantastic. My Santa may not have been chosen by the mysterious LT algorithm, but they certainly put in the effort to make sure the books were a good fit for my tastes. Don't fear a last minute Santa! They're the devoted ones.

The hard part for me now is NOT PEEKING. I want to see the comments! I want to see what I'm getting! I'll wait, but this is the hardest present not to shake and squeeze a little.

290library_mistress
Edited: Dec 11, 2015, 3:28am Top

RidgewayGirl, you can click on the page, but won't see the comments and chosen books ;-)

291wester
Dec 11, 2015, 3:55am Top

I finally settled on a book choice I liked. I was about $4,50 under, and the only book I could find in that price bracket that seemed worth getting was already in my Santee's library. So I changed one of the other books for a cheaper one, and now all five books are books that I think would be nice to get, and I'm only $1 under.
So now the fretting about whether my Santee agrees can start ;-)

>261 lorax:: Definitely agree. Getting good books is more important than getting exactly "my money's worth". Because, what is the worth of books that are only so-so?

292imyril
Dec 11, 2015, 4:46am Top

Phew, got my Santa-ing in just under the wire. I'm around this evening (i.e. 5pm onwards Eastern Time) and happy to chip in to help with any orphaned Santees!

293MarthaJeanne
Dec 11, 2015, 7:07am Top

>290 library_mistress: Of course if you have access to a second account ...

294Jillian_Kay
Dec 11, 2015, 8:59am Top

I picked my books, but no isbns since they're iBooks. I'm assuming that's why it looks unpicked.

This was a lot of fun!

295LadyoftheLodge
Dec 11, 2015, 9:32am Top

I am happy to help with unpicked Santa Thing-ers!

296riverwillow
Dec 11, 2015, 9:56am Top

Am I worrying unnecessarily? I've picked books for my Santee, who's showing as picked but the ASINs I put in have changed to weird numbers and the other fields remain empty. Or is it all fine?

I have detailed the books I've chosen, including a spare just in case, in my comments to my Santee so I hope that's all OK.

297thebookmagpie
Dec 11, 2015, 10:13am Top

I should hopefully be able to help with unpicked Santees this evening, it'll be 10pm onwards here but seeing as it's Friday...

298lorannen
Edited: Dec 11, 2015, 11:53am Top

>296 riverwillow: Welp, that's our fault. It looks like in fixing the issue with ISBN saving, we broke the ability to display ASINs properly (at least, in a way that I can read them and then find the books on Amazon). Trying to get some developer help to fix this. They should still be saved somewhere in our DB correctly.

299lorannen
Dec 11, 2015, 12:02pm Top

>294 Jillian_Kay: Yep, that would be why. I just put "NA" in the ISBN fields, and now your Santee is showing up as picked!

300lorannen
Edited: Dec 11, 2015, 12:04pm Top

Update on ASIN situation: That's fixed! All should be well now. It doesn't retroactively fixed mangled ASINs, but I'm going through each Kindle entry to make sure there's enough info for me to figure out each Santa's picks.

301jburlinson
Dec 11, 2015, 2:21pm Top

I'll be glad to help with unpicked santees. Just let me know.

302Laurenkm22
Dec 11, 2015, 2:41pm Top

I'm curious if we have to incorporate any taxes into our total? I didn't really think about it until right now. My Santee is in the UK so my total is in GBP and over by 0.54 (GBP) assuming $30 USD is $20 GBP. Should I adjust it or will this be okay since it is a small amount?

Also, not important but wondering what happens with the unpicked Sanatees and why they haven't been picked? it looks like I'm still unpicked

303Cariola
Dec 11, 2015, 2:46pm Top

>302 Laurenkm22: Your Santa hasn't selected any books for you yet--that's why you are unpicked. Because LT has a deadline for ordering, if he or she doesn't step up by 5:00, someone else will choose your books.

304Laurenkm22
Dec 11, 2015, 2:49pm Top

lol oh do not know why I didn't think of that... thanks!

305leahbird
Dec 11, 2015, 3:36pm Top

I have a suggestion for next year for something tangentially related to SantaThing:

Since there are so many great recommendations made through SantaThing each year, might we have a connected thread for helping our LT brethren pick books to give to the people in their everyday lives? Everyone in my family is a reader, but most of them read things that are completely different than me so picking books can be hard. But LT is full of people with various tastes that come up with wonderful suggestions each and every year!

306lorannen
Dec 11, 2015, 3:39pm Top

>302 Laurenkm22: Over by $0.54 should be okay!

>303 Cariola: Thanks for jumping in, that is correct!

>305 leahbird: That is a lovely idea. Something along the lines of Penguin's holiday book-recommending hotline, but here on LT? I'm sold.

307LibraryPerilous
Dec 11, 2015, 3:54pm Top

>305 leahbird: I don't see why you couldn't start a thread for that in Book Talk this year! But I do agree that it would be a good idea to have it linked in some fashion to SantaThing next year.

>306 lorannen: I don't know about you, but I definitely do not use the Penguin Hotline for myself every year: no way, not at all.

I think it would be fun to have a "Pretend SantaThing" thread, say in July (a play on Christmas in July), in which the second poster on the thread makes recommendations for the first poster, poster #3 for poster #2, and so on, as if we are leaving notes on SantaThing entries.

308lorannen
Dec 11, 2015, 3:55pm Top

>307 LibraryPerilous: You lot are just full of good ideas this afternoon. I love it.

309lorannen
Dec 11, 2015, 3:56pm Top

I currently have 3 Santees who I know aren't going to get picked by the deadline. Anyone want to help me out and adopt one?

310Candice_oxo
Dec 11, 2015, 3:56pm Top

>307 LibraryPerilous: I'm down for the pretend SantaThing in July! Sign me up!

311Candice_oxo
Dec 11, 2015, 3:57pm Top

>309 lorannen: I'll take one! Always here to take stragglers.

312LibraryPerilous
Edited: Dec 11, 2015, 4:04pm Top

>309 lorannen: I can take one if you'd like. Since you already have swung one my way, please give priority to anyone else who asks.

>310 Candice_oxo:, >308 lorannen: I've put a note on my calendar to start that thread in Book Talk this coming July. :)

Edit: spelling error

313Jenni_Canuck
Dec 11, 2015, 4:03pm Top

I'll help.

314lorannen
Dec 11, 2015, 4:04pm Top

All righty, the current 3 are taken! Thanks, everyone!

In a little less than an hour, the floodgates will open, and you can snap up Santees left and right.

315lorax
Dec 11, 2015, 4:28pm Top

>307 LibraryPerilous:

Why restrict it to just one person recommending per poster?

316lorannen
Dec 11, 2015, 4:37pm Top

>315 lorax: I see no need to "restrict," per se, but it would help avoid confusion (not everyone uses the reply function), and would also keep with the "you recommend books for one person, and another person recommends books for you, and so on, and so forth" strategy.

317LibraryPerilous
Dec 11, 2015, 4:37pm Top

>315 lorax: I thought that would be a way of keeping the cycle of recommendations going and ensuring that everyone participating received at least one recommendation. I'm sure, though, that the thread would go in whatever directions other posters took it, and that would be fine too.

318lorax
Dec 11, 2015, 4:45pm Top

I don't know, I think you'd get a lot more participation if people didn't feel like they missed out on someone where they could actually give good recommendations because someone else got there first! I wouldn't bother if participating meant I would have to obsessively refresh waiting for someone I felt qualified to recommend for posted, and then hurriedly rush to get mine in before someone else posted.

319LibraryPerilous
Dec 11, 2015, 5:07pm Top

>318 lorax: Thanks for the feedback; that's a good point.

If I'm around Talk in July next year, I'll throw up a thread with some thoughts on how it might work, and people can participate in whatever posting fashion they choose. Perhaps a "Hi, Santa, I've loved these books so far this year. What are some titles you would like to put in my stocking?" approach might be better. Then, anyone whose read similar books or has similar tastes could chime in with titles.

And now, back to SantaThing. Picking period should be closing soon!

320Zarien
Dec 11, 2015, 5:15pm Top

I would love to help too, if I may? I'd love to give another santee a surprise present! :)

321angeljacoby
Dec 11, 2015, 5:30pm Top

Argh. I don't think my picks for my person ever took. Just noticed an email saying it still needed to be done from yesterday, but I already picked for them earlier in the week. :(

322lorannen
Dec 11, 2015, 5:33pm Top

>321 angeljacoby: Got your message—we'll get it sorted out!

323LibraryPerilous
Dec 11, 2015, 5:34pm Top

>321 angeljacoby: You just had one Santee, right? I happened to check a few minutes ago to see if that person was unpicked—I'd left a suggestion on the page—and your titles/ISBNs are there now.

324lorannen
Dec 11, 2015, 5:42pm Top

Okay, all unpicked Santees are now up for grabs! Head over to the SantaThing page and look under "Other Santas."

Santees with a yellow triangle next to their username are up for grabs.

Click the username of a Santee to open their SantaThing profile. At the top of their SantaThing profile, you should see a "Grab this member for yourself" link. Click that link to claim your new Santee, and don't forget to pick some books for them!

Thanks for all your help, my elves!

325Cariola
Edited: Dec 11, 2015, 6:32pm Top

I would like to help ashmolean1, Laura Brook, and owlie13 please.

Edited--looks like ashmolean and owlie13 have been taken, unless you were that fast, Loranne!

326Candice_oxo
Dec 11, 2015, 6:30pm Top

Cariola I just finished my two snagged Santees so I'll go take a look at those profiles and try to help!

327ryvre
Dec 11, 2015, 6:33pm Top

I'm picking books for someone now, and I'm having a hard time getting up to the amount they chose with only 5 books. (They want Kindle books, and most of the things that I want to get them are around $7.99.) Is there a way to add an extra book or two? I'd hate to have to change my selections just to pick more expensive books.

328Zarien
Dec 11, 2015, 6:33pm Top

I've picked the books for my two Santees that I adopted :) I'm glad we had this opportunity to help the others out, so everyone gets a present! :)

329lorannen
Dec 11, 2015, 6:33pm Top

>325 Cariola: Not I! I'm working on my own extra Santee at the moment. And I am fast, but not that fast.

330catarina1
Dec 11, 2015, 6:34pm Top

I would help but I don't see any yellow triangles.

331Zarien
Dec 11, 2015, 6:34pm Top

That's a hard one, kindle books are not as expensive.. I hope you're able to pick more for your Santee!

332lorannen
Dec 11, 2015, 6:34pm Top

>327 ryvre: You can definitely add more books, just put them in a comment on their SantaThing profile, with the ISBN and title (link, too, if you've got it handy). Santas' comments get highlighted in red, and LT elves who are doing the ordering read those comments very carefully!

333Cariola
Edited: Dec 11, 2015, 6:36pm Top

>329 lorannen: Maybe their Santees kicked in at the last moment (ashmolean1 and owlie13).

334lorannen
Edited: Dec 11, 2015, 6:36pm Top

>330 catarina1: Looks like they've all been snapped up! Stay tuned, though—not all of them have books picked just yet!

335Candice_oxo
Dec 11, 2015, 6:38pm Top

I'm done with mine, so if anyone else needs ideas for their snagged Santee let me know!

336saroz
Dec 11, 2015, 6:47pm Top

Wow, that was fun - I snagged two extra Santees right there at the last minute. Thanks for SantaThing again this year! :)

337booksnesread
Dec 11, 2015, 7:02pm Top

I'll adopt Cuervo and hbfj, if they haven't been adopted yet!

338lorannen
Dec 11, 2015, 7:04pm Top

You guys are amazing—we're already down to just nine Santees who don't yet have books picked for them!

339booksnesread
Dec 11, 2015, 7:13pm Top

May I adopt Cuervo and/or hbfj if they haven't been taken yet?

340lorannen
Dec 11, 2015, 7:25pm Top

>339 booksnesread: They've all been adopted at this point, I'm afraid. But if their current Santas fall through for some reason, I'll send you a message!

341booksnesread
Dec 11, 2015, 7:28pm Top

Ok. Thank you!

342MrsLee
Dec 11, 2015, 9:50pm Top

On the SantaThing page it looks as if three are not picked yet? If that is a truism, I'm here and ready to roll if you need some help!

343tottman
Dec 11, 2015, 10:11pm Top

Two of the three remaining have Tim Spalding as their Santa. Somehow I think they are going to be ok:)

344lorannen
Edited: Dec 11, 2015, 10:21pm Top

>342 MrsLee: Thanks for the offer! I'm going to give those folks tonight to get their picks in. I'll ping you tomorrow directly if I've got anyone else who still needs some books picked!

>343 tottman: There's a reason we'll be extending the book-picking time next year. ;)

345AngelaFries
Dec 11, 2015, 10:26pm Top

It will not let me pick my books for my santee, I have tried twice.

346lorannen
Dec 11, 2015, 10:26pm Top

>345 AngelaFries: Sorry for the trouble. I just sent a reply to your message.

347MrsLee
Dec 11, 2015, 11:08pm Top

>344 lorannen: I'll check back tomorrow morning. I'm on the Pacific Coast, it probably won't be before 7am here when I check in, unless I can't sleep, which happens. :)

348DBettenson
Edited: Dec 11, 2015, 11:48pm Top

If you need any Santas let me know!!
Donna

349lorannen
Dec 12, 2015, 6:47pm Top

Hey Santas! I'm in the process of placing SantaThing orders now, which also means reconciling each order to make sure Santa stays within the budget. I could use some suggestions for this entry:

http://www.librarything.com/santathing_thing.php?id=55

I'm going to have to swap out at least one of Santa's picks, and am looking for something in the $6-$7 range as a replacement.

Reminder: this Santee's store of choice is Sherman's, which means we have to go by list prices posted on Amazon or Book Depository.

Thanks!

350leahbird
Dec 12, 2015, 7:01pm Top

There are a lot of Puffin Classics paperbacks for $5-7. I have Jane Eyre and several others.

351cbl_tn
Dec 12, 2015, 7:44pm Top

>349 lorannen: I left a $6 suggestion on the ST profile.

352lorannen
Dec 13, 2015, 1:13am Top

Thanks for the suggestions, all! I'm sure I'll have more of those in the days to come.

353BookAddictUK
Dec 14, 2015, 4:29pm Top

Oh no, I think I must be responsible for one of the nine missing! My husband had a nasty accident last week and landed in hospital and everything else went haywire and I was so sure I had until tonight to do it! What can I do to make up for it? I'll happily, thankfully, take a trip to the bookshop and send picked books myself express...can't bear to think that someone may be without because I'm so crap...but I can't see now who my Santee was??? What can I do to make it right? I am so, so sorry for messing up the lovely SantaThing!

Jessica

354.Monkey.
Dec 14, 2015, 4:55pm Top

>353 BookAddictUK: I hope everything is okay. Your santee was picked for, everyone who got missed for whatever reason gets rescue santas to help out once the time is up. Nothing to worry about.

355lorannen
Dec 14, 2015, 6:09pm Top

>353 BookAddictUK: I'm going to echo >354 .Monkey.: and say that I hope you and your family are all right. I sent you a private message, as well, but posting here for the record—no need to worry about your Santee! >354 .Monkey.: is absolutely right.

356BookAddictUK
Dec 15, 2015, 2:39pm Top

Thank you muchly. Lorannan sent me a lovely message and explained - I think she's been playing Santa in my place, and I'm so relieved that my Santee won't be disappointed at Christmas. As for hubby - a nasty ankle break, lots of pain and he can't walk, but it's already on the mend and all seem confident he'll quickly make a full recovery. Was all a bit scary at the time though (and, for once, there was no Christmas Spirit involved in his accident!)

357Garp83
Dec 19, 2015, 11:53am Top

Special thanks to my Secret Santa on SantaThing -- awesome book selection!!!

358lorannen
Dec 19, 2015, 12:06pm Top

>357 Garp83: So glad to hear your Santa chose well! Did your books arrive? Feel free to post on the Arrivals thread so I can put it on the map, if you like!

359kirathelibrarian
Dec 23, 2015, 12:24pm Top

Not my best year, since the two books I got were already marked as 1.5 stars in my library, but there's always gift balances. Thanks though for offering this great program every year. It's fun getting to shop for someone else :)

360lorannen
Dec 23, 2015, 12:49pm Top

>359 kirathelibrarian: Very sorry about that! I thought I'd checked your order more carefully. I'll be happy to replace your order with alternate picks. Sending you a direct message now.

361LibraryPerilous
Edited: Dec 23, 2015, 12:58pm Top

>359 kirathelibrarian: The LT add date of those books is 12/23/15, well after the SantaThing ordering was done. Unless you had other editions previously in your library and have now deleted them, I don't see how your Santa could know that you'd already read and disliked the books that were chosen.

Ah, ETA: Yours was a Kindle order. Perhaps this was a bizarre same-day cross!

362kirathelibrarian
Edited: Dec 23, 2015, 2:06pm Top

Thanks lorannen :) it may have been a same day cross as well. Who knows :)

363lorannen
Dec 23, 2015, 2:29pm Top

>362 kirathelibrarian: Yeah, I placed the order for your Kindle books yesterday (Dec. 22nd), so that's what happened. They weren't there when I checked your library, after all. I'll still send you some replacements, as promised, of course.

364lorannen
Dec 23, 2015, 2:31pm Top

Update for anyone who has yet to receive their Kindle gifts: I'm not quite done with those orders, but have to take a break to go do some family things this afternoon. I'll be finishing those orders tonight, so you should have them by tomorrow morning (Eastern time) at the very latest.

365KateBaxter
Dec 30, 2015, 7:15pm Top

Hurray! All four books arrived today from Amazon.com (USA) Thank you to everyone at LibraryThing, especially Loranne, who made this yet another fun year.

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