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It's that time of year again! This is our TENTH Annual SantaThing—I can't believe we've been doing this for an entire decade.
Check out the blog for full details. We've got a couple new booksellers on the list this year: Audible and B&N Nook.
The main SantaThing page lives here: http://www.librarything.com/santathing.php
Gift-picking has ended! If you didn't get your picks submitted for your Santee in time, don't worry—we'll be letting volunteer Santas make some selections for them momentarily.
Any questions? Post them in this thread, see the SantaThing Help page for FAQs, or email me directly at email@example.com.
Once again, my hat's off to LT member ladylenneth for running this year's Donations Thread with style. We had a grand total of 52* donated entries this year. You guys are amazing!
*And those are just the ones I know about!
UPDATE: SantaThing books have begun to arrive! Once you receive your gifts, feel free to let us know on the SantaThing 2016 Arrivals thread.
I had to skip last year's Santathing, but this year I'm certainly signing up again. Thanks for hosting this!
I'll follow along with the excitement, but I don't feel like I should spend the money this year. I really enjoyed my participation two years ago and sat out last year for the same reason. Hopefully next year, I'll feel like I can participate again!
Have fun, everyone!
>8 LibraryCin: I'm sorry to hear that, but glad your previous experience was so positive. Feel free to chime in on the donations thread here: http://www.librarything.com/topic/240528, and ladylenneth will be happy to match you up with a SantaThing gift entry. We want to make sure that everyone who wants to join in gets to do so!
>9 lorannen: Thank you so much! I probably am not nearly in "need" as much as many people. I just don't want to be spending on books right now. That is, I have money saved, but I just bought a house and don't want to dip too much into my savings for things I want vs. what I "need".
>10 LibraryCin: buying a house is a huge responsibility and I completely understand why money would be tight right now. Come over to the donation thread and we will get you taken care of!
>11 mellymel171328: Thank you! I would just feel guilty, since I have money; it's just my decision not to spend it on books right now. I'll let others take advantage of the donations!
>12 LibraryCin: I'm in the same boat. I've never participated, though it seems like so much fun, because I shouldn't spare the money - I practically never buy new books, they're so expensive! But while I don't have tons to spare, it's not like I'm in need so, I've never felt it right to ask for that.
>13 .Monkey.: & >12 LibraryCin: There're lots of reasons why people can't afford to join in - not being able to 'spare' the money, even if you have it is just as valid a reason as not having the money in the first place. As a Santee, when Tim was festive and kind one year before we had a thread, and a Sant-er for most years since, I don't second guess why people need donations to take part - I'm just super happy to see as many people join in as we can make possible, whatever the reason! My guess is that most other sponsors feel the same. Don't do anything you're uncomfortable with but seriously, please come over to the thread if you're of mind to join in. The more the merrier. Ho!Ho!Ho!
>15 klarusu: Thanks for the encouragement! Me, I'll still feel more comfortable sitting out. I do hope to participate again next year or the year after (or both!).
I'm so glad I stumbled across Santa Thing 2016. :) Just signed up- my first year and I can't wait! #booknerdsforever
>18 jessiemoon: I get no books from anyone for Xmas so SantaThing is very special to me!
If anyone is in need of a donation this year we still have unclaimed codes. :)
>1 lorannen: is it possible to link to our previous ST profiles, so I can copy my likes and dislikes?
But YAY thanks again to all the elves who have to work extra hard just for me to have books.
Good morning SantaThing people! We have several unclaimed codes for those who are in need! We'd love for you to participate in this years SantaThing! Go to http://www.librarything.com/topic/240528# and make a request if you can't for whatever reason afford to join this year. :)
>22 reading_fox: Unfortunately, that's still not something we've gotten around to adding to SantaThing. If you're stuck and really need access to your previous one, I can dig it out of the database and message it to you privately, but it will take some time.
Yay! I finally got signed up for this years Santa Thing. I am looking forward to picking out books for someone else other than me.
>26 reading_fox: I copy and pasted mine into my notepad module on my LT homepage, so I would have it on hand when I need it.
I'm super stoked for Audible! Does my Santa pick from the member price, full price, or credit price? I'm trying to figure out what amount to choose to make sure my Santa has fun picking for me.
>28 ryvre: Good question! I had to do some digging on this. Audio books via Audible will be at the member price, so $14.95 each.
Woohoo! Last year was my first time and I loved it! I've been waiting for this to come around again, and I just signed up today!
Just signed up for the first time and I am really excited about it. It is such a nice idea. Perfect mixture of Christmas spirit and joy of reading.
I went for Powell's as a book seller as I generally don't want to support Amazon as it is deemed a hugely unethical company by ethcialconsumers.org and book depository is owned 100% by Amazon so not any better. It also looked like Powell's will send to the UK so it should be okay.
Hello! Fairly new LT member signing up for SantaThing. In the process, I goofed. I clicked out of the PayPal confirmation page before I copied the receipt number and there's no number in the confirmation email I just received. What should I do? Thank you! (And doubly thank you for having such a great event!)
Check your PayPal e-mail receipt again. Look at the very upper right-hand corner. "Transaction Number." That is the number you're looking for -- perhaps you can copy and paste that to lorannen. You might even be able to edit your Santa Thing sign-up.
Anyway, you're not the one and only who's done that. I did, too. Luckily, I didn't close my sign-up tab until I got the pesky number from my receipt.
>71 I know someone who forgot to copy and paste and didn't have it on their email. So lorannen helped us get a code we could use. :)
>34 EllAreBee: I just sent you a profile comment. Thanks for your patience, and thanks to ladylenneth and Limelite for pointing folks in the right direction!
I wanted to extend an invitation to anyone watching the thread that is on the fence about going to the donation thread http://www.librarything.com/topic/240528# we have more then enough donations for people! We have several pending a home! SO message me directly or ask there. :)
Despite my not so stellar experience last few times, I decided to try again this year. With very explicit instructions of what I want or do not want. So... let's see - if I get again books from my "do not send" list, I guess it will be the last attempt. :)
>41 AnnieMod: A couple things have changed since the last time you participated. For instance, last year, I enlisted other LT staffers' help in checking Santas' picks against what was already in Santees' libraries (which I intend to do again this year). We're happy to have you back, and I hope this year is better!
Please clarify: the SantaThing page says signup closes on Sunday Dec 4th; but I just got an e-mail saying it closes on the (nonexistent) date of Monday Dec 7th. I do suppose it's the 4th, but I then think a correcting e-mail is in order.
BTW: I am definitely participating this year but my credit card is maxed out at the moment (due to temporary circumstances), so I'm waiting if it will work again on Dec 1 or else I'll have to find some other way.
Payday arrived so I've signed up at last and this means the festive season has truly started ;-) I look forward to this every year! Ho!Ho!Ho!
I can't remember, is there anywhere to find out what my past SantaThing gifts have been? My goal for December is to read all of the books I've received in the past, but I discovered that I didn't tag all of them properly. :/
>51 MrsLee: I know they have made a profile that showed all the books bought but I don't think they have done it every year. Also I do not think you can look up specifically what you got. I am sorry. :(
>53 MrsLee: I won't lie my TBR pile is rather BIG! For some reason ever since I had my first son who is 5 years old I haven't been able to concentrate to read. I am hoping that will change when my youngest starts school. I won't run out of books for a while! lol
>51 MrsLee: Yeah, I'm trying to come up with a better solution for this. I wanted to include popularity (as there are always a few titles that show up again and again). I think I may do a list for this year's gifts. Last year, it didn't materialize as I simply didn't have the time. I did an account for 2014: http://www.librarything.com/profile/SantaThing2014.
Currently, there's no way to see what you, specifically, received on a given year. I tend to tag my gifts with "SantaThing" so I can find them again in my own account.
I signed up! So looking forward to it. :)
But I am a bit confused... I can't find my Santa Thing profile. I split up my amazon wishlistinto books and DVDs, so I wanted to make sure, I put the right link into the Santa Thing profile, but I can't find it. ^^;
>56 LarraChersan: That should be the link to allow to edit yours: http://www.librarything.com/santathing_signup.php?id=60
Basically go to http://www.librarything.com/santathing.php and look under "Your SantaThings".
>57 AnnieMod: AnnieMod: Thank you very much! I knew it should have been somewhere, but was to stupid to find it. ^^;
>58 LarraChersan: Not stupid! There's so much information on LT that sometimes we get lost and need to ask for directions :D
Is there an option for getting digital comics from apps like Comixology? I'm excited by the addition of Audible as an option, but I've got some many graphic novels I want to read... and no interest in physically having copies of them. They much easier to read and store on my tablet. :)
>60 thirdmusket: Unfortunately, no. Comixology is not one of our available booksellers this year. Unless the comics are available in the Kindle or Nook stores, those would be your only options for digital comics. I'll look into it for next year!
Awesome, thanks very much. That's good to know. I'll probably stick with Audible then when I sign up.
Is there any etiquette guidelines to follow concerning paperback vs hardcover books? I know some people have an aversion to paperbacks but you can often get several paperbacks for what one hardcover book costs.
>63 ILuvBookplates: If you prefer hardback over paperback or vice versa, include that in your "Book tastes" or "Other notes" fields in filling out your SantaThing profile. We can't guarantee your Secret Santa will abide by this request in picking books for you, but Santas are, in general, very thoughtful, and will typically take your preferences into account.
ETA: Which is to say, participants are welcome to request hardcover or paperback only gifts, but we cannot guarantee that this request will be honored. What I usually see happen, in the case of members requesting hardcover-only books, is that most of their Santa's picks are hardcover, with one paperback thrown into the mix. Usually because there's too much left in their budget to not add one more pick, but not enough for another hardcover.
While I do my best to review every SantaThing entry to make sure the recipient is getting what they've asked for, this is slightly harder to track than, say, checking their Santa's picks against their existing library.
>63 ILuvBookplates: I think it depends on the person. I noticed people who usually have a true preference for them will mention it on their SantaThing page.
Is there any way to see what Santa profiles I've commented on?
I've made some book suggestions, but if I think of another brilliant book for one of those people I'm afraid I won't be able to find them again.
Can I give a Santa code to another member without knowing their address? (I could get it, but want to keep it low profile).
>66 wester: Unfortunately, there's no way to see a list of SantaThing profiles you've commented on. That's a good idea, though—I'll see about implementing it in the future. If you really want a list, I might be able to pull it for you from the database. Shoot me a profile comment or email? firstname.lastname@example.org.
>67 mkunruh: Well, yes and no. There has to be some way for us to know their address, in order to send them their gifts. Unless you want to go the Kindle, Audible, or Nook route—in which case we need their email address.
So, I'd recommend sneakily asking for the address yourself (if you'd like to create the SantaThing entry with your own LT account). Pretend you're sending holiday cards, or just updating your contacts, and ask them for it, so you can enter it. The only other alternative is for them to sign up for SantaThing themselves, and give them your donation code to do so. Does that make sense? If that doesn't help, let me know!
As SantaThing comes to an end I want to encourage anyone who has been watching but can't afford to please go over to the donation thread and post or directly message me and we will hook you up. We have more then plenty this year.! :)
Just sign up, this will be my first year, is this where I will come to ask questions, or need advice?
>70 Book-Dragon1952: Yep! You've come to the right place! Feel free to post your questions here, or message me directly! Welcome aboard!
>70 Book-Dragon1952: Welcome to your first SantaThing! :) I am excited you joined!
What an amazing SantaThing. I can't believe sign ups are almost over! Excited to see who I am paired with. :)
SantaThing signups are officiallyCLOSED! We'll be matching up Secret Santas overnight—expect an announcement tomorrow morning with your Santee!
I'll also be sending messages this evening confirming your store selection. If you missed the deadline, or have any other questions or concerns, feel free to post them here, or message me directly.
>75 Hanike: I am sorry. Maybe if you message lorannen she could help? Their always willing to help a few people at the end.
>75 Hanike: Yep! We're still in the matching process, and I can definitely sneak you in. Just drop me a line here on LT, or email me at email@example.com, and I'll get you set up.
>79 timspalding: Getting my hot chocolate ready for when I do my picking! :)
Notices are finally rolling out—Santas have been picked! Make sure to head over to the SantaThing page and find your Santees under "You choose the gift for.
You have just under one week to make your selections, as book-picking ends next Monday, Dec 12th at 9am Eastern (14:00 GMT).
I'm still working on making sure everyone has the right dollar amounts and store selections on their SantaThing profiles, so don't panic if you see a "TBD" there for your Santee. That will change shortly.
I don't think I can do a good job of picking books for my Santee. They requested a very specific type of book and they already have all the books that I can think of that match their requirements. Plus, many of my favorite authors are listed on their "didn't like" list, so if I get them books I like, I'm worried they'll end up hating them.
All told, we have 466 entrants this year—26 more than last year. (Your display will say 444, because some are private.) A modest rise—I'll take it.
The big story is, I think, how many helped others this year. It's truly humbling to see how many members step up to pay for others who are down on their luck. Lorannen and/or @ladylenneth, have you got a count?
>88 timspalding: I just added it to that message at the top. We've got 52 donated entries that I know of. This doesn't include private entries that members offered without using the Donation thread. Of those 52, 15 were from LibraryThing.
>87 kgodey: I'm sure some folks will be happy to help you out with some suggestions.
For reference, here is kgodey's Santee: http://www.librarything.com/santathing_thing.php?id=102
If you'd rather not pick for your Santee, even based on suggestions, drop me a private message, and I'll be able to help.
Question for anybody who knows:
On the SantaThing picks page, when it says "Note that five dollars have been subtracted, for shipping" and then lists the amount to spend, do I go by that amount or do I need to subtract $5 first?
>91 Daniel.Estes: Thanks for double-checking! You spend that amount. We've already done the math for you, and subtracted that $5.
See donation topic ( https://www.librarything.com/topic/240528#5823407 ) for a standing ovation for @ladylenneth !
May I suggest a Badge/Gong for LT members who participate in Santa thing. I only say this 'cos many members don't seem to have any badges :-(
I'm taking off for just a bit to go grab a bite to eat. If you've got a question in the meantime, don't panic! I'll return in an hour or less and will be happy to help you then.
Also, the SantaThing Help page lives here: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/SantaThing. You might see if your question is covered there.
>89 lorannen: That's a pretty good 10th Birthday present for SantaThing, I think!
Oof, a private library with 3k books! I will try, but I apologize ahead of time to Librarything staff for any duplicates I pick. ;)
I am rounding up suggestions from friends and will include some great extra picks for you folks!
All right, I've finished reconciling financials, and all SantaThing budgets are accounted for! So, if you were seeing "TBD" for your Santee's budget earlier, that should be fixed now.
I'm still waiting on a few stragglers who have yet to tell me their store of choice. As I receive updates on those, I'll also be messaging their Santas.
Quick question- what conversion rates to use when picking up a book? My Santee had selected amazon.co.uk but the amount is in USD...
>105 AnnieMod: So for Amazon.co.uk, that's usually in British pounds. We always post rough exchange rates here: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/SantaThing#Exchange_rates_2016. Feel free to use Google's currency converter, if that helps. That's what I use in doing the math when I'm placing orders.
>106 lorannen: You may want to update that link to include $10 (what my Santee has) as well. :)
~ 8 pounds then -- I suspected it is close to that but wanted to make sure. Thanks!
>107 AnnieMod: Aha! Good thinking. I'd failed to account for the amount for shipping. I'll get that updated shortly.
>108 lorannen: You may also want to update the next section that says that Amazon.co.uk " Amazon.co.uk: All Santees will get exactly what they've paid in." - as it seems like $5 were subtracted from my Santee.(Shipping: Note that five dollars have been subtracted, for shipping.) Or was the subtraction a mistake?
Just wanted to say not to worry if my Santee doesn't have anything picked out by me till the weekend - possibly Sunday! I'm looking a little bit tonight, but want to think on things and I have a really busy week! I will get it done, I promise!
>109 AnnieMod: Oh, that shouldn't be the case. I updated the numbers on Help page recently. Looks like the logic didn't get adjusted in SantaThing system. I may be able to fix this myself, but also might have to rope Tim in.
Never mind, I answered my own question... And I messed up, lol. I will now go back and try again.
The person I am choosing for asked that books be bought from Sherman's so as suggested I am pricing using the list prices on Amazon. Do I link to those Amazon pages when I am putting my selections on the order page? I have noticed that if I search for a particular book that the list prices show up on the search pages but once I click on the specific book, that page only shows Amazon's price.
>115 ILuvBookplates: Please do include the links. Links are helpful for elves as we're placing orders, so we can make sure we're getting the exact right book!
I'm also having trouble hitting the total dollar amount. Is being under a dollar okay? No matter which books I try to put together, I am either under a dollar or over two dollars.
The person I'm picking for asked for authors new to them, but it's a private library. (I also don't think we have much in common in terms of likes/dislikes.) So I'm choosing more than required based on best guesses, and will let the elves pick in order I list them, removing when it's already in their library and stop when the $$ amount is met. Does that sound like a plan?
>118 ILuvBookplates: I know that meeting budgets can be tricky, and we do ask that you get as close as you can without going over. However, if it's a matter of $1+ under-budget, or a few cents over, then going over a tiny bit is okay.
>119 owlie13: That sounds like a great plan. Thank you for including extras! That will be a big help if we run into any books they already own.
as it seems like $5 were subtracted from my Santee.(Shipping: Note that five dollars have been subtracted, for shipping.)
Oh, that shouldn't be the case. I updated the numbers on Help page recently. Looks like the logic didn't get adjusted in SantaThing system. I may be able to fix this myself, but also might have to rope Tim in.
Loranne—We used to charge people for the service. We aren't doing that. But you still need to pay for shipping, when there's shipping. For Amazon, you have to pay shipping if the amount is below $30. When members selected Amazon it said this:
"Note: If you choose Amazon and spend less than $30, your Santa may have $5 less to spend, to cover shipping. Each Amazon subsidiary has different price requirements for free shipping, too many to detail here. If you're curious about the Amazon site you're using, you can see a breakdown of the free shipping requirements for all SantaThing booksellers here."
Did this need updating?
>121 timspalding: Yes, it did. Amazon.co.uk drastically dropped their minimums on book orders to qualify for free shipping. It's 10 pounds now. I remember updating these values in years past—it just wasn't in my notes somehow.
Ah. Got it. Yes, put it in the notes. I have no idea where those numbers are without looking too.
A 1k private library and just a few generic keywords to go by. This is no fun.
Of course I can get books that I myself enjoy that fit those keywords, but there is no way to find out anything my Santee (except they're somewhat secretive), so even if I manage to avoid doubles (and yes, I will include some extra picks) I don't have a clue if they're going to like them.
>125 timspalding: I don't really see how anyone could give suggestions on just those keywords. Except for "botany" that is.
OK guys: any ideas? http://www.librarything.com/santathing_thing.php?id=448
Tried to help (not that it did much good, I'm afraid). Unfortunately, it posted my comment twice, just to rub salt in it!
>127 saroz: Thank you. I wish this didn't confirm that it's pretty impossible to choose something nice based on this scanty information.
To make matters worse, the choice of bookstore and the insistence on hardcovers don't improve the amount of available books.
Yeah, I noticed! I love hardcovers, and prefer them (with nice trade paperbacks) in my library, but insisting on them rules out a LOT of gift potential.
Well, that's my Santee taken care of - at least, I hope so! I went over budget by 17 cents. (And I did include some alternates if there's a problem.)
Now I just sit back and wait for the unfulfilled Santees to need Santas...lorannen, I'd be happy to take several of those when the time's ready. (I teach for a living and my semester ends later today, so I'll have lots of free time and feel very Christmassy!)
Okay - I've got my book list figured out, but I have a question about shipping date.
The book is perfect for my Santee, It's a very popular best seller on Amazon, and its currently out of stock, but more on order, with an expected shipping date of 3 to 4 weeks. Yesterday it had a shipping date of the 11th.
So do I skip it, and find something else, or go with it, with the understanding that it might be very late.
Heres the book I'm interested in.
I just want to say that my Santee fits me PERFECTLY this year! We have the exact same book interests! In fact, we mention the same exact series as one of our favorites. Great job LibraryElves! I'm so excited to start picking...and to eventually see who got me!
Legit my favorite part of my Christmas season.
>124 wester: I can reach out to your Santee on your behalf, and ask them for some more guidance, if that would help! It might surprise you, but I sometimes find that folks who have private libraries and then sign up for SantaThing have forgotten or don't realize that their private library means their Secret Santa can't see their books.
>130 saroz: Thanks so much for the offer! I'll be posting here next Monday, when gift-picking closes, so that Santees who don't have gifts listed yet can be picked for by a new Santa, so, stay tuned here!
>131 TheDivineOomba: We can't order items that are out of stock for SantaThing—it causes gifts to either be late, or may break up the order into multiple shipments. If you feel strongly about this one, please include it in your list, with the understanding that we may be unable to order it. If you'd like to select an alternate title (in case that happens), feel free to put that in the comments.
>132 Candice_oxo: That's fantastic!
If we select exemplars sold by third-party Amazon sellers do we need to add the shipping cost back on to the cost of the books? If we are selecting from Amazon UK, can we assume that the spend-level is in USD, but the item costs are in GBP, requiring a currency conversion?
>134 dheintz: Unfortunately, we cannot order items from third-party sellers, either on Amazon or any other bookstore, for SantaThing. Only items fulfilled by Amazon can be purchased. As mentioned here it's not that we're against used (or at least cheaper) books, but availability and prices cannot be guaranteed. Please select ONLY new items, fulfilled by Amazon (if that's where you're shopping).
Currency conversion: that's right. That's why we have a list of rough conversion rates listed here: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/SantaThing#Exchange_rates_2016. You can also use Google's Currency Converter tool.
I just want to say that my Santee fits me PERFECTLY this year! We have the exact same book interests! In fact, we mention the same exact series as one of our favorites. Great job LibraryElves! I'm so excited to start picking...and to eventually see who got me!
The system tries to match similar people. But it has only so many options, and can't make perfect matches for all. Glad you lucked out.
I may have made a mistake in choosing amazon.co.uk as my preferred store. Free shipping is not offered to Norway, where I live. Now I'm worried half my budget will be needed for shipping... Is it too late to change to the Book Depository at this point?
>137 Mencius: Nope! I can make that switch for you! Just drop me a note here or message me directly to confirm. I'll also check in with your Secret Santa to let them know about the change.
ETA: In all likelihood, we would have ended up switching your order over to Book Depository for you, if shipping costs were, indeed, too high. This just saves us elves some time in placing the order.
>132 Candice_oxo: I just want to say that my Santee fits me PERFECTLY this year! We have the exact same book interests!
I'm excited and feeling this way, as well! I guess my interests are pretty broad, but even the stuff not to get matches up with me!
Enjoyed playing Santa to someone who lives outside USA. Had the same good fortune last year.
But I'm sad the Santee's budget was so small because I cannot make my 2 best choices. Only $$ for one best choice and a "consolation" book. Ah, well, the point is to try my hardest to make them happiest with their "indulgence" money. Hope I did!
I'm a bit of a strange person and love going through all the books that have been chosen... I've found one where the books chosen are a bit inappropriate based on what the person asked for (for example, two "I can Read" books at 32 pages each are listed - the person says he/she likes proper children's novels). I know gifts are gifts and it's important to have an open mind but this seems extreme! Is there any recourse?
The Secret Santa was quite a challenge for me. My gift recipient and I have a mostly very different taste in books and only share two titles in our libraries. For the past few weeks I have been making a list of books I would pick if I was paired with someone with a similar library and nothing on that list fit. I'll have to expand my potential picks list next year.
I've had better Santees. This one has a total of one book in his/her library. Sigh. Did my best.
My Santee has a budget of $25 and has selected Sherman's as store. This makes choosing books quite difficult, as all paperbacks I have checked so far have a list price on Amazon of $15 or $16, and hardbacks are $26. One solution would be to buy just a single hardback, but that might be disappointing to the Santee (?) and it would still be $1 over budget. Any advice on this?
A question regarding remainders. I know not to choose used books, but are remaindered books acceptable?
I need a don't peek at your page and see your book support group! I will let it be a surprise this year!
>142 olegalCA: That's not strange at all! Or rather, if it is strange, then you're in good, strange company. You might try posting some alternate suggestions in a comment on the SantaThing profile. Even if the Santa misses it, LT elves will see it, and might be able to use those. I say "might" because, while we do our best to keep an eye on Santees' tastes in ordering, it's a little difficult for us to track, beyond whether or not they already have a given book in their library.
>143 ILuvBookplates: We do our best to match up folks with similar tastes, but, ultimately, we're limited by who is participating in SantaThing, too.
>144 majkia: I'm sorry to hear that. If you like, I may have some last-minute additions I can send your way? Plus, there will be the Monday rush for unpicked Santees, during which I'd love to have your help.
>145 Mencius: Do your best to stay within the budget, but if it's a matter of going $5 under-budget, or $1 over, we'd certainly prefer the latter. If they're someone who likes classics at all, you can usually find a decent classics edition for less than your standard trade paperback. Similarly, mass market paperbacks are an option, if there's anything in that vein that would fit their library.
>146 RidgewayGirl: Yeah, remainders are out, too, I'm afraid. I'll update the SantaThing guide to reflect that. Often, they'll be sold out by the time I'm placing the order, anyway.
>147 mellymel171328: We try to warn you with a "No peeking!" note on your SantaThing page when you're logged in as you... but there's nothing stopping those of us with multiple accounts—except willpower. Consider this your support group. :)
I did sign out and peek. Partly because I wanted to check if what I had written was OK and also to see who my Santa was ... before they picked any books.
I was very happy with the person I had to choose for as we had similar libraries and I hope I managed to find something they will like. I also left some additional picks in a comment just in case the LT elves need to make any changes.
*sigh* Anyone wants to help me choose for my Santee? Very limited library, categories that do not match my interests (excluding the ones I know what I am doing in and asking for books from the couple genres that I really have no clue)... I am a bit stumped so I would appreciate ANY idea. Message me for the link if you are up for giving me a hand (do not want to post it here).
>151 AnnieMod: Your Santee has a private SantaThing profile, so others won't be able to see it. I'll take a look and see if I can help, though.
>152 lorannen: - Ah. Missed that part - explains why noone commented though. :) Thanks!
>153 AnnieMod: Left a few suggestions! I hope they help! If you're really stumped, feel free to message me.
Thanks. I will figure out something. I have a few default "to-go" titles (they like mysteries after all - probably the only crossing point) but with such a small library, I am a bit worried to go there. :)
And I can see you picked up a few of my to-gos as well. :) Thanks again!
So, what happens if a santa doesn't pick any books for their santee? Do you pick someone else to pick books for them in a timely fashion, or how does that work?
I'm sure it doesn't happen often, but I'm sure it's happened a few times.
>156 mike1990: Oh, it happens every year. There's always at least one Santa who can't make the deadline. But we have a failsafe in place for that (and this is part of why the deadline for picking is as early as it is)—come Monday at 9am Eastern, we'll open up all Santees who haven't had gifts picked for them to be picked up by volunteer Santas—folks who are already participating and have already picked for their original Santees.
Their help is invaluable every year. We do ask them to get their picks in ASAP, as we can't start placing orders until all gifts have been submitted. So anyone who's interested in helping out should keep an eye on this thread, where I'll be announcing that phase of the process on Monday. :)
During the ordering process, there's a massive thread where Lorannen and ladylenneth post about various problematic cases and ask members for help. That includes cases like the one you mention, but also issues with book availability, sudden price changes that push santa's picks over budget, or cases where the suggested books come in under budget (but with room for one more very cheap item). LT members then chime in to offer helpful suggestions.
Edit: not quick enough!
I plan to do my picking this weekend when I have some time. Until then, I keep peeking and getting ideas. I'm thrilled with the person I'm picking for, lucked out because we have very similar reading tastes.
I will also be looking at profiles with little or no suggestions who haven't been picked for yet, and making recommendations. What I really want is to be able to take Monday off so I can play frantic SantaThing helper, but I also need a paycheck. :/
LibraryThing, I would appreciate your help picking some books for my Santees please. Their book tastes are totally different than mine and everyone else I know. I'm totally stumped. In one case, they like "cozy mysteries" and I don't even know what those are (or all but one of the authors mentioned and that still gives me nothing to go on); in the other case, her "don't get this" include 2 of the genres about which I know the most (and I know none of the authors listed in her regular LT profile either). I share no books with either, both in my historical lost library on my LT and my actual current library in my home.
Links to their SantaThing profiles: http://www.librarything.com/santathing_thing.php?id=237 and http://www.librarything.com/santathing_thing.php?id=279.
Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Dear >157 lorannen: , This is the first year I chose all the books early. And I liked them all! Unfortunately I am $0.29 over. Is this within your tolerances?
If not can I send you a few dollars via PayPal?
ETA. What are we supposed to do with the LINK field, or is it for staff only?
>Sahra Made a suggestion for the second one, I see the first one now has multiple suggestions
I see we've made it past the halfway mark -- more picked than unpicked!
>156 mike1990: >159 MrsLee: I do the same as MrsLee, I've been going over all the santees with few comments and where they match my book taste, I've been leaving suggestions. Sometimes even if the books were already picked if I had a really good one. In the end, if santa doesn't need the suggestions, it's a bit like an extra gift for the santee, right? If someone left extra suggestions for me, I would love to check them out!
As for my own santee, I had a hard time this year, as I don't share her tastes at all, but I managed to pick books by doing research. Still, if someone would give me a suggestion out of personal experience, I would check it out and maybe exchange it for one of my own picks, so personally, I think suggestions never hurt!
Would anyone be willing to give me a suggestion or two for my santee please? They give plenty of books they'd like to receive but when someone has such a large budget I like to make sure that at least one thing is a surprise. Normally I'd spend ages researching, but I have both kids off school ill this week and am struggling to fit work around them let alone spend time on the fun things like this. Please note fiction books must be in large print - which is making this a bit harder too! Thank you!
>162 guido47: It's not required, but is helpful to include the URL to the book's page on the bookseller website. Just copy/paste whatever you see in your browser's URL bar. It just makes it a little easier for the staff elves to find the right edition immediately, rather than going hunting.
>164 zjakkelien: Absolutely! I love reading the recommendations and suggestions others have left on my SantaThing profile once December 25 rolls around.
>165 Sahara20: Have you thought of surprising her with a favorite book of your own?
>162 guido47: Ah, sorry, missed your question about going over a bit. Yes, 29 cents should be okay. Let's put it this way—we'd much rather you go 29 cents over, than be $1 under.
>167 ILuvBookplates: I have but I can't find any that are in large print! I'm not doing very well at this this year! I also don't know how to quote people on here - sorry! ETA - just worked it out - at least that's one dilemma solved!
>160 sahra: Cozy mysteries are those mystery books with female (usually) amateur sleuths stumbling across dead bodies in their yarn stores or their neighbors garden and often find themselves under suspicion so have to solve the crime.
Question I had 2.64 left over, could find anything for that price, now I'm 2.25 over. Can I use paypal to cover that amount, and how would I do that. Thanks for the help.
>171 Book-Dragon1952: That's awfully nice of you to offer! And yes, we can make that happen. I'll message you privately to walk you through it.
>169 Sahara20: I sympathize. I do a lot of book-shopping for my grandmother, who can only read large-print editions. It's incredibly disappointing how hard they can be to find! I'll take a look at your Santee's profile, and see if I can make some suggestions.
>169 Sahara20: I found one book that might do based on a few other books she has. I put that in the comments section of her Santa page.
Hi, I am working on books for amckie, and have found a couple, but Amazon.ca has one as "only 3 in stock (more on the way)" and the other as "only 5 in stock (more on the way)"...are those numbers too low and risky to order for the 12th of Dec ? What would happen if I did, in good faith, and one or more was unavailable ? Cheers Graham
>175 grahamhk: Yeah, unfortunately we run into this from time to time with SantaThing orders. If a book you had selected were out of stock at the time I placed the order, I'd have to pick something else to replace that particular book. So, listing alternate titles (in a comment on their SantaThing profile) wouldn't be a bad idea.
As someone that buys a lot of books, these messages are very common on less popular books. Unless if the number is "1", most likely it will be fine.
Ok cheers...I will try to work round it ! At least it means I am maybe picking things that are popular generally !
Please help: I think amazon.ca means Canada, right? So if I have 40 USD listed on the santee's pick page, then I have $53 Canadian dollars to play with, right? and the "CDN$" number on the amazon.ca page is the right figure to look at? Sorry, exchange rates are unfamiliar to me....
Update: The gift-picking deadline has been extended by a few hours: until Monday December 12th at 1pm Eastern. At that point is when we'll be opening up any un-picked Santees for volunteers to choose gifts for them!
Is there somewhere to leave a message for the person I've picked for ? I thought there was last year (does it come after I've clicked 'save choices'?
If I want to leave extra suggestions in case something is unavailable, where do I do that?
I'm sure I had all this figured out last year, so please excuse me and put it down to me being tired.
>184 Peace2: Look at the bottom of the Santathing page of your Santee. There is a "Add a suggestion/comment" box that can be used both by the Santa and by anyone else that can see the page. Whatever you type there will be added as a comment/
And to elaborate on >185 AnnieMod:, Santas's comments are highlighted in red, and staff elves check these very carefully in placing the orders. So, please put any additional titles beyond the first five in a comment!
Your Santee won't be able to read your comments until December 25th, so no need to worry about spoiling the surprise.
A general note: Tim and I sent out picking reminders to Santas just a little while ago, and it looks like some of you received a notice saying that you hadn't yet saved picks for your Santee yet. It's possible something was off in our logic on that note (checking the ISBN field, and not the Title field, or vice versa—this is why we ask for both!). So, if you head over to your Santee's SantaThing profile, and see your choices already saved there, you're good to go, and don't need to worry.
I haven't been able to do any picking yet. I'm horrible at it to be honest and I've been in pain the last couple days. My arm has been bothering me.
>189 mellymel171328: Oh no! I'm so sorry to hear that. I do hope you feel better soon. I'm clocking off for a little while just now, but I'll drop some suggestions later tonight. I'm sure I've got something up my sleeve that will suit your Santee.
>191 lorannen: Thanks, I am on the mend. I am taking some medication for it. I don't know how I did it but I pulled something in my shoulder.
>164 zjakkelien: I do the same as MrsLee, I've been going over all the santees with few comments and where they match my book taste, I've been leaving suggestions. Sometimes even if the books were already picked if I had a really good one. In the end, if santa doesn't need the suggestions, it's a bit like an extra gift for the santee, right? If someone left extra suggestions for me, I would love to check them out!
That's a great idea! I wish I had more time to help out that way!
I certainly looked at all the suggestions left on my personal ST page and added some to my wishlist and some to my 'I need to know more but might be interested in this later' lists
Okay, I picked the books for my Santa now. But I'm 15 pence over the amount the person paid in. Can I still keep those books in the list? Maybe I can send you the 15 pence so my Santa gets his/her books?
I don't know much about this persons book taste. Please can I have some suggestions to help me out.
>197 kkelm22: I've already left a few suggestions as have a few other people. Do you need more?
>196 LarraChersan: That's very kind of you to offer, but no need. We'll cover that little bit extra. Thanks for checking in!
For anyone itching to help choose - I know that I have a good enough list of possibilities for my pick, and am just waiting for uninterrupted time this weekend to juggles titles and prices, but I'd still love a few suggestions to add to the possibilities. I'm sure many others would agree that this is helpful!
I've got a Santee in need of a Secret Santa! Anyone interested in doing some extra gift picking?
>206 lorannen: if you have a future need, I am happy to pick - that's my favorite part.
Hi Loranne - is it possible to select more than five items - there are only five boxes on the form - I have picked three books and two Kindle anthologies to try to make up the amount, and am still about USD5 short !
Or can you send my Santee the unspent balance as an Amazon voucher or something ?
I have to say finding books is fairly easy, it's getting the total to add up to exactly USD40 that is the problem...
>210 grahamhk: Absolutely. As mentioned in the "Saving your picks" section of the Help page, please put any selections beyond the first five titles in a comment on your Santee's SantaThing profile. Santas' comments are highlighted in red, and LT staff read those very when it comes time to place orders.
I see that I'm still unpicked, so if anyone wants me to update my SantaThing profile or get more specific let me know! Maybe a secret go-between elf could help us out with that. But to whomever my Santa may be- don't worry! I'm sure I'll appreciate whatever you decide you want to gift me. That's the best part of this- feeling like someone was called to gift me a book that meant something to them or that they felt strongly would be something I'd like. No matter what's in the box when it arrives on my doorstep, it's still going to be the highlight of my season!
>214 -Eva-: Thanks, Eva, but I've got it sorted. It was more a matter of juggling prices to get as close to the total to spend as possible.
>215 Candice_oxo: If your Santa entered titles and links only, without accompanying ISBNs, it's possible they've already got picks saved for you, and our system just doesn't know it. Don't worry, gifts will certainly be picked for you!
ETA: You're showing up as "picked" now, and I can confirm that your Santa's picks have been saved.
Great! I did that too - had a whole spreadsheet going and juggling formulas. So much fun! Can't wait to see what my Santee thinks!!
I could use some help with my santee. There are only 2 books in here library, so I have only the request to go by. I have made some choices but they feel to similar and I would like to make the selection a bit more diverse. So I would appreciate any suggestions left.
I am (according to what bookdepository shows me - I've heard it's different depending on location) 97 cents over. Is this okay or should I look to switch one out for a cheaper book?
>221 .Monkey.: That's too far over, I'm afraid. But, prices sometimes change, so feel free to leave your current picks in place and give us an alternate, if you like?
We're just under the 24-hour mark for the gift-picking phase! Make sure to get your selections entered before tomorrow at 1pm Eastern!
The vast majority of Santees are already marked as picked, which is great! If your Santee doesn't have a green check-mark next to their name on the SantaThing page, that means one of two things: 1) you haven't yet saved any book selections on their SantaThing profile, or 2) You didn't include an ISBN with your picks.
If you're in the latter boat, don't worry—as long as you've included at least a link in the corresponding column for each of your books, I'll be able to find the right title and edition. However, if you've just entered titles, it can be a bit tricky. I do my best to find the right ones, but not every title is 100% unique.
I'll be around all day today if you have any questions or need any help! If you'd like some suggestions for books for your Santee, feel free to post here!
>224 lorannen: I didn't include an isbn. I picked out all Kindle editions and couldn't find the isbn to add in. I added that in, as a comment. What else should I do?
ETA: I did include title/author, link and price in the form.
>225 LibraryCin: ASINs are fine for Kindle! And they're usually easier to find, too. The system just may not mark your Santee as "picked" automatically, but that doesn't mean your picks weren't saved or are invalid.
Feel free to put the ASINs in the ISBN blanks for your selections. Again, so long as there's a link to each book, I'll have no trouble finding it.
>226 lorannen: I didn't see where to find that, either... or maybe I did now that I think of it, but I wasn't 100% positive if it was specifically for the Kindle edition or not. (It was so far down on the page, I really couldn't tell which edition it was referring to.)
I did include title/author, link and price in the form.
>227 LibraryCin: Yes, they do tend to be farther down the page. But you've entered plenty of info for me to find the right books. Don't worry!
>228 lorannen: Actually the majority of the Kindle books do not have their ISBN printed on the page in Amazon anymore :)
>238 Thanks for confirming. I thought that was the case, but wasn't entirely sure. The good news is that the SantaThing code just checks to make sure something has been entered in those fields now. It used to check for a valid ISBN, which caused all manner of trouble for Kindle Santas a couple years ago.
Loranne. You sent me a private message but left out the Santees name. ! Edited: Never Mind,
I got it...
I'm either $0.28 over budget, or $2.80-ish under (which I find unacceptable). Is the additional twenty-eight cents fine? If not, I can PayPal you the difference.
Either way, I'll leave the final suggestions at $27.12 (out of $30), because prices have been fluctuating a little bit, but I'll add a comment with a few alternate suggestions at $3.16 (apparently the cheapest books that The Book Depository offers) to bump the total up to $30.28. I'll also mention one alternate suggestion, for backup purposes.
(secret santa page link)
So we can donate some more when needed? Because I am really having trouble fitting two books together but this way, problem solved.
>238 AnnieMod: Absolutely! If you decide to go this route, please drop me a message, so I can keep an eye out for your payment and update your Santee's profile accordingly!
>239 lorannen: I have to work today until 5pm (Pacific Time), but if you still need help after that I am more than willing. I'll check as soon as I get home, so if you need me, leave a message.
lorannen, can you please check your mail and let me know if this will be fine (so I can correct before 1 pm if need be)
As the final countdown begins, I wanted to let you know that it might not be 1pm quite on the nose—Tim's on a call, and I'll need his help to launch this phase. We'll make unpicked Santees available as soon as we can!
Due to shipping deadlines, Sherman's orders are the ones I need to get in first, and I've got two Sherman's Santees who I know are unpicked at this point. If anyone's available, I'll go ahead and match you up with one of them now.
I'm available, and would be happy to help especially if someone is looking for fantasy or sci fi
Done! I have to leave for an appointment in a bit, but I'll be back around 4PM if you need any help still!
>248 lorannen: Thank you, I've chosen mine as well :) I'll be away for an hour or so but would be happy to pick for more if you need some later too!
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