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I have a question for you all...
How do you handle the answering of the questions for the group reads?
Answer as you go? or
Answer after you've read the entire section?
I usually answer the questions after I've read the entire section. I try to answer based on what I knew at the time of the question and not apply whatever I may have found out later in the section.
Just curious as to how the group approaches the discussions.
I have done both ways. If I'm behind in my reading, then I answer as I go along. Which is easier to answer the questions that way as very fresh in your mind.
If the book is a bit complicated like The Charlemagne Pursuit, I take lots of notes and that usually helps me answer better too.
I just wish people would not read ahead as it does spoil the book when people answer questions and I have no idea what they are referring too until I read the next section and then it makes sense but does spoil the fact that I didn't find out on my own.
I don't mean to offend anyone but I am very direct sometimes when things bug me. lol
I think we should promise not to read ahead. If Andrew needs to read ahead in order know better how to direct the questions, that is fine with me but there really is no reason for others to do so.
>2 bhabeck: A good question!
I try wherever possible to answer the question as it was at that stage in the book (although has been known for something from later on in the section to slip in). Of course easy for me as I know when I set that question, I generate questions as I read based on things that occur to me or questions I have in my head. If you posted as you read a section would there be a danger of coming across a question that could be a spoiler?
Funnily enough your question reflects my thinking about posting questions, do I post them as soon as I get the question or post them all together at the end. I have always posted them altogether at the end.
>3 EadieB: Wherever possible I try not to read ahead, and if I do I am very strict with myself about ensuring I don't post anything from that section. Think I'm about 99.9% foolproof on that.
>4 Andrew-theQM: I've tried answering as I go and have found that sometimes a question ends up being a spoiler - like when you ask about a death. This isn't usually a big deal so it doesn't bother me much but it lets me know that I have to stop answering since I didn't yet know that happened
I only participated in one group read so far but I read the section, took notes, then answered questions for that section. If I didn't take notes I would probably have to answer as I go because I would never remember lol.
I was wondering if others take notes too? When I plan to review a book I have to take notes and write things that I'm thinking and questions that I'm wondering about.
>7 LadyJ71: I don't usually take notes on the story itself but I will make note of things that I'd like to go back and check out later. Often, someone provides background information on something going on in the story and I generally wait until I'm done with the book to follow-up on those items unless it's something I think I might need to know for a portion of the story to make sense to me (e.g. the supervolcano discussion in the Sanguines series)
>6 bhabeck: I tried it both ways but, like you, I found that a question was a spoiler so I just read the entire section now before answering questions.
I read the whole section and then respond to the q's as best my memory allows, :) , I know it's a bit of fun and not a comprehension test, so I don't let it bog me down.
If I can't remember how I felt about a particular point that Andrew brings up, then I just say "I don't know" or read what others have written to see if that jogs my memory (and sometimes it does - one of the bonuses of group reads!).
After several years of group reads I've grown accustomed to Andrew's style - I know he asks q's based on what he knows up to a certain point within each section, so I answer in the same manner, ignoring what may come later in that same section.
I never read ahead of the scheduled chapters: I'd never be able to remember what I should or should not know at any given point, ha!
I believe that I follow more closely with Sergei's style of answering. I tried the note taking and found that it takes up a major amount of time.
I never read ahead. Once I know the ending, I just can't go back and remember what I was thinking before I knew who did it. I usually read each section on the day it's assigned and then read the questions once they are posted.
One thing I have to admit - I concentrate harder on our group reads than I do on my lone reads, because one never knows what topic Andrew may raise... :)
I also read the entire section and then answer the questions--usually my answers reflect how I feel by the end of the section. It's too hard for me to remember what came first and how I felt at particular moment.
I never have the problem of reading ahead--I'm usually running behind so can start the questions as soon as I finish the last chapter of the section.
Once in a while I'll take notes, but usually not. However, like >15 Sergeirocks:, I often concentrated harder on our group reads.
I read the section and try to answer without reference to things happening later in the section but I can't guarantee I can keep everything straight. I don't read beyond the end of the section before answering the questions. The only notes I take are sometimes a list of characters to keep the names straight.
This should possibly be in one of our books! Has anyone seen Cotton? Or Payne and Jones?
>22 Carol420: Perhaps you don't look down enough rabbit holes! But seriously an incredible find!
>23 Andrew-theQM: Well that probably explains it. Off to find a rabbit hole!
I probably couldn't participate in a group read like that. I am such an in the moment reader and I'm usually multiple reading anyway. I enjoy it while I'm reading but not very good at the post mortem. But I'm still an avid and devoted reader.
I have a silly question for the group, hope I'm not messing with the flow, but do any of you ever judge a book by its cover? I've always been intrigued by this idea. So do you ever by or borrow a book because of the cover, be it the artwork, the burbs, hell even the lettering. I'm just wondering and will be interested to hear some answers.
>26 ColinMichaelFelix: Definitely not messing with the flow, this is exactly what the chat thread is for. I am very much a cover person, often don't like to read the blurb as it can spoil the story and often doesn't tell me much. Pictures that publishers use often give a strong feel to me about the type of book or type of genre a book is. When I read a book that I enjoy I will look for similar type covers that will attract my attention. Covers at libraries are a big pull to me!
>26 ColinMichaelFelix: I pick up books at the library all the time based on the cover or especially the blurb. If it's an author that I read all the time...and there are hundreds of those I'm sure...I don't do this...but new or lesser know authors...yes. I also pick up books based on the blurbs on Fantastic Fiction and Stop! You're Killing Me websites. I mostly read mystery & Suspense and some paranormal...I'm a push over for a good ghost story...so the covers that portray spooky looking scenes are more apt to draw my attention. I've actually gotten some pretty good ones.
You should try a group read with us. We read the book in sections ...usually over 5 or 6 days... because none of us can remember what happened after we've read the entire book. It doesn't matter about the pace that you read. We have people that sometimes are a week getting to the questions and you don't have to answer them all.
>27 Andrew-theQM: >28 Carol420: so, I'm guessing that this wouldn't be any fun for either of you...lol. Would there be a "deer in the headlights" look?
A lot less detail upfront than what we see in the Blind Dates that we do in either this group or Dusty's
>26 ColinMichaelFelix: I always judge a book by its cover: I can usually tell from the artwork if it's the type of book I will enjoy. Only rarely have I been mistaken, but I think this is more a case of being misled by the publishers trying to cash in on the latest bestselling bandwagon and trying to classify a book as a certain genre when clearly it isn't...
I don't always read the blurb as I don't like to know the plot before I read the book.
Perhaps I shouldn't admit this, but I've been known to pick up a book purely because I like the colour on the sleeve, :)
>26 ColinMichaelFelix: - I often pick out books that have interesting covers. I also participate in a lot of reading challenges that want some sort of object on the cover, like a farm animal, snow, specific color, etc. I just picked up the new Neil Gaiman book because it has such a beautiful cover.
That was fun and enlightining, so here's another: Who are some of the authors you would read no questions asked? Once they release a novel you are reading. For me it begins with David Baldacci, Lee Child, John Sandford, Louise Penny, James Paterrson's Cross series to name a few
For me it's Ann Cleeves, Louise Penny, Karin Slaughter, Peter May, Nicole French, Harlen Coben, Elly Griffiths, Brad Parks, Robert Galbraith, Alan Bradley, Tana French, Simon Beckett, Linda Castillo, Hilary Davidson, P.J. Tracy, Linwood Barclay, Susan Hill, Peter Robinson, Ian Rankin, Steve Berry, James Rollins, William Kent Krueger, Julia Spencer-Fleming, James Twining, Michael Connelly, J. T. Ellison, Michael Koryta, Chris Carter, Robert Bryndza, Simon Toyne, James Oswald, Kate Ellis, Val Mc Dermid, Greg Iles, Daniel Silva, Jeffrey Deaver
I also choose a lot of books because I like the cover.
>29 bhabeck: I have seen this Blind Date concept at other libraries and I think I would be game for it. If I didn't like the book I could just bring it back. Now if I had to BUY the book it would be a horse of another color. I've enjoyed our Blind Date With A Book we do on Dusty's Treasure Trove and the Mystery & Suspense Extra sites. I've had more 4 & 5 star ones than 2 or 3's.
>35 ColinMichaelFelix: Oh dear...I think it would be easier and less time consuming if I named the authors that I wouldn't read...no questions asked.
Okay... those will ALWAYS have a home on my shelf....David Baldacci, Lee Child, John Sandford, Chris Carter, Kate Ellis, Michael Koryta, Peter James, Linda Castillo, Peter May, Peter Robinson, Linwood Barclay,Robert Bryndza, Harlan Coben, Ann Cleeves, Simon Beckett, Ian Rankin, Michael Connelly, J.T. Ellison, Catherine Coulter, Elly Griffiths, M.J. Aldridge, Jefferson Bass, Paul Cleaves, Robert Crais, Clive Cussler (Dirk Pitt, Kurt Austin & Oregon Files series), Nelson DeMille, Robert Dugoni, Tess Gerritsen, Andrew Grant, Steve Hamilton, Steven James, Alex Kava, Jonathan Kellerman, Stephen King, Dean Koontz, Bently Little, Stuart MacBride, Douglas preston, Lincoln Child (together or separately), J.D. Robb (not as Nora Roberts), John Saul (one of my favorites for paranormal).
>35 ColinMichaelFelix: I like a mix of genres so it's all over the place for me - John Sanford, Michael Connelly, Clive Cussler, Tom Clancy, Johanna Lindsay, Jude Deveraux, Larry Niven, Vince Flynn, Robin Hobb, Brad Thor, Nelson DeMille, Jonathan Kellerman, Dean Koontz
>35 ColinMichaelFelix: - I'm with Carol. I have too many to list but some of mine are:
Maurizio de Giovanni, Lee Child, David Baldacci, Daniel Silva, John Sandford (Lucas Davenport), Douglas Preston/Lincoln Child (combo), Karin Slaughter, Mo Hayder, Nele Neuhaus, Kristina Ohlsson, Anne Cleeves, Jussi Adler Olson, Peter James, P. J. Tracy, Luke McCallin, C. J. Sansom, Lisa Gardner, Harlan Coben, Malla Nunn, Elly Griffiths
>39 Olivermagnus: I'm amazed at the number of same favorites that you and Eadie and I share. I shouldn't be as I believe you and I have the largest number of books alike of anyone I'm friends with. We've had them since Shelfari and we just keep adding. Eadie is quickly catching up.
Here's a few in no particular order, covering a range of genres. Apologies to those authors I miss!
Harlan Coben, Linwood Barclay, Michael Connelly, Ann Cleeves, Simon Beckett, Lee Child, James Twining, Chris Kuzneski, James Rollins, Rebecca Cantrell, Clive Cussler, Scott Mariani, James Becker, Steve Berry, Andrea Camilleri, Alex Lukeman, Daniel Silva, Vince Flynn, Brad Thor, Lucinda Riley, Robert Goddard, Peter Robinson, L J Sellers, Maeve Binchy, Ian Rankin, Edward Marston, Alexander McCall Smith, Nicki French, Jeffery Archer, Sharon Penman, Barbara Erskine, Val McDermid, Simon Scarrow, Bernard Cornwell, Conn Iggulden, Jeffery Deaver, Michael Dobbs, Simon Kernick, Elly Griffiths, Dorothy Koomson, George RR Martin, Tess Gerritsen, Robert Harris, Lisa Jewell, Karin Slaughter, Glenn Cooper, Matthew Reilly, Ben Kane, Sam Bourne, Marian Keyes, Matt Hilton, Peter James, Danielle Ramsay, Tom Barber, Greg Iles, Jack Kerley, Julian Stockwin, Simon Toyne, Linda Castillo, Boyd Morrison, Laurence O'Bryan, Jacqueline Winspear, Mark Edwards, Jed Rubenfeld, Suzanne Collins, Louise Voss, Jack Higgins
I'm not even going to attempt to make a list, but all my favourites would be covered by those already listed above, :)
I'm going to start looking at some of the authors above that I'm not familiar with.
>41 Carol420: - I remember exploring Shelfari and seeing a comparison between our books the first time I logged on. You were my very first friend and have always recommended some great authors.
>40 bhabeck: - Thanks Brenda....picked it up for free.
>45 Olivermagnus: every time someone posts a list of favorite authors/series/books here, I make a note of it. I'm way behind the rest of you in terms of the mystery/suspense authors and need all the help I can get.
When I need a new book to read, I've been using the list of Group Reads Since Inception for both this group and Extra to pick one.
>46 bhabeck: There are certainly some excellent authors on that list Brenda.
Snow Alert! How much did you get? We are looking at getting maybe 2 ft by the end of Tuesday in Upper Bucks County Pennsylvania.
>48 EadieB: Most of Michigan is getting the outer fringes of it. We have about 2 inches on the ground and it's coming down really fine or we'd have more....and will diffidently get more before it's done. The weather alert is out for us until 2:00 tomorrow morning. I think your area and the rest of the East Coast is going to get it a lot worse than we are. Stay safe.
In Arizona we are expecting sunny skies and a high of 91. I would like something in between a blizzard and high heat but I can't complain when I see the bad weather ahead for you. Stay warm, everyone!
Here in the western part of Virginia, it's sunny right now but the snow is supposed to start around 8pm tonight and go until tomorrow around 2pm. They say 8-12 inches. A week ago, it was in the low 70s and my plum trees were starting to bloom - but not any more!
>51 Olivermagnus: It was a lovely Spring day today for us, and a nice clear moonlit night, and quite warm with it for the time of year.
Hope you all keep warm and be careful whether walking or driving in that weather. In fact forget going out, cuddle up to the fire with a good book instead!
Nominations for the Group Read in April are now open.
Picked up the He book for the next Group Read from the library tonight - starts Friday 24th, The Forbidden Tomb by Chris Kuzneski.
At 548 pages in length (paperback) it looks like this will run over 6 or 7 days,
Also picked up Corsair by Clive Cussler and Jack Du Brul, for one of the April Group Reads. Another big book at 536 pages (paperback).
>60 Andrew-theQM: Looks like Africa will be well serviced through these group reads - at first glance one visits Tunisia and the other visits Egypt.
>63 EadieB: Funnily enough they both have a link to the Sahara Desert! Can always rely on Clive Cussler to take us to some more remote locations - usually in Africa and/or Asia
>60 Andrew-theQM: I'm planning to participate in the Corsair group read. Like Eadie, I have my book ready to go. It's the audio version, which I need to help me get through it fast enough to keep up with the discussion. I'm looking forward to it!
I have the next one but will pick up Corsair on Friday. It looks like they have three copies in.
>70 EadieB: Now that's's an idea:) Maybe two that can make brownies and cheesecake.
Really sad news, Colin Dexter (creator and author of Inspector Morse) has died. He created a great character in Inspector Morse and I grew up with the TV Series (and the later series Lewis). This TV Series helped launch my passion for crime TV / Books.
>75 Andrew-theQM: Sad that we have lost another good author. I have some of his books. I need to move them up on the old TBR list.
>76 EadieB: I've read a few but not all of them. Will need to read one soon!
>80 EadieB: I'm pretty sure that when I read them I didn't realize there was an order to them! I remember buying them in the area's Walden's Books, so it was ages ago.
>83 Hope_H: I like to read series in order as you get to see the characters grow and the author's writing seems to get better as you go along sometimes too.
>84 EadieB: Oh go on Eadie, be a devil! We can set up a support group to help you. 🙊
>84 EadieB: I'm definitely that way now! I have to read a series in order. I'm not sure if I've just gotten a tad OCD as I've gotten older or if in my younger years I was even aware that there were book series! It does seem like there has been a proliferation of series books over the past decade or so.
>88 Olivermagnus: same here. Too many spoilers if you read out of order. Plus, I always feel like I'm missing backstory that would be nice to have
>84 EadieB: >88 Olivermagnus: Funny I have no qualms about reading a series out of order, unless its like a specific purpose for the order like a trilogy for example. Actually I find enjoyment in bouncing around the series and spoilers never bother, its about the journey with me anyway. But then again I am a strange one
Hey >92 Coffee.Mama: All is well over here. What are you reading today?
>93 ColinMichaelFelix: Sadly, I'm not really reading anything at the moment. Most of my books are packed up, so it's slim pickins. I'm trying to figure out what reading mood I'm in, and if I that type of book is within easy reach. SMH - Who am I kidding. The only mood I'm ever in is for psychological thrillers and mysteries, so I just need to find one and buckle down. LOL!
What are you reading?
>94 Coffee.Mama: Have you read Birthdays for the Dead by Stuart MacBride? It might fit your psychological thriller genre. I just finished it and even though I gave it 3.5 stars it was still a good story. Eadie also read it and she gave it 5 stars....so maybe it was just me. I think what I didn't like about it the most was how out of character the forensic profiler was. She became tiresome after a while. If you are a RIO person it is the first book in the Ash Henderson series. MacBrides Logan McRae books are good also and fit your wanted genre.
>95 Carol420: No, I haven't read that, Carol. Think I'll look into it and your other recommendation as well. Thanks!
>94 Coffee.Mama: Whenever I'm in that mood I tend to just grab a book my collection. It usually gets my juices flowing, so that even when I might not be sticking with that book at the time it helps me to focus on where I want to go. That being said, I'm currently reading Never Go Back by Lee Child and Ice Cold by Tess Gerritsen. The latter is very bendy as Phoebe from Friends might say. Thoroughly enjoyable.
>97 ColinMichaelFelix: Both authors are among my favorites. I didn't care much for the last Jack Reacher book, Night School. It was just too different and not enough of the Jack Reacher from the previous books. I see that a new one Midnight Line comes out Nov. 7 and it looks like Jack will be back on the street doing his thing. Looking forward to that one.
>97 ColinMichaelFelix: Oh, those sound like good reads. And, I agree with you. Sometimes, I do just grab a book and see where it takes me.
>98 Carol420: Carol, how do you feel about Tom Cruise playing Jack Reacher? I'm sure conversational was flowing all over the place for a while about that, but I haven't read the series, so I didn't pay much attention to talk though I did notice some people were quite unhappy. I'm just curious about your opinion and if it even matters to you.
>99 Coffee.Mama: Well ...we all know that he certainly ISN'T Jack Reacher by any stretch of the imagination. I believe that they should have been more selective when choosing an actor to portray a character that all of the long time readers had read vivid descriptions of... and had well formed pictures in their minds. I bought the DVD and I had to say that Tom Cruise did a fairly good job of pulling off the role. He did a lot of his own stunts which was one thing that many fans thought he would fail at. Other than he's about 10 inches shorter and a good 100 pounds lighter...I can live with it. I really can't think of anyone off hand that would really fit the role. I think we all form solid ideas of what our book heroes should look like. An example that comes to mind for me is Tom Selleck as Jesse Stone...from Robert Parker's books. That is exactly what I thought Jesse would look like.
>100 Carol420: - I liked both of the Jack Reacher movies, but he is absolutely the wrong size for Jack. I don't think moviegoers who never read the books will care and I can't blame Lee Child for wanting one of the most famous movie stars in the world to recreate his character. I love action movies and hope he continues both the Reacher franchise and more Mission Impossible movies too.
>99 Coffee.Mama: >100 Carol420: >101 bhabeck: >102 Olivermagnus: Here goes and those in the group since Shelfari days know my strong opinion on this. Carol said she can live with Tom Cruise as Jack Reacher, I can't - it says clearly in the fact file at the front of each book that Jack Reacher is 6 Foot 5 Inches tall (1.95m), Tom Cruise clearly isn't. I have nothing against Tom Cruise personally (I'd be happy to go for a drink with him if he gave me a call) but he wasn't the right profile for this role and should never have been cast in this role in my humble opinion. I blame the studio and the author (?) for allowing this! I have never watched one of the Jack Reacher movies and won't in protest, not saying they are not good movies in their own right. I even stopped reading Jack Reacher books for 2 - 3 years after this casting in protest! My view has never changed on this.
>99 Coffee.Mama: >100 Carol420: >104 Andrew-theQM: I am with Andrew on this one and I actually like Tom Cruise but I think he is wrong for Reacher and not just physically. I find the tone of the movies doesn't do the book and the character justice. When I compare the treatment Bosch is getting on Amazon it makes it even sadder to look at what I think is a most minimalist take on such a large(and not just physically) presence as Jack Reacher. As one who has been with the character from the beginning I was beyond disappointed
>105 ColinMichaelFelix: Pleased to see I am not alone, it wouldn't be so bad if you didn't have the fact file at the front of each book showing how tall he is. 6 Foot 5 Inches is very tall! Unfortunately all too often people are chosen on who is hot in Hollywood and not who is best for the role.
>104 Andrew-theQM: Gee, Andrew...1.95m makes him sound kinda short:)
>105 ColinMichaelFelix: - Titus Welliver is the perfect Bosch, in my opinion. I love that series and have already circled April 21 for season 3. I even got the audios of the last couple books because he narrates them.
See Andrew, that's how I would've felt if I had read the books. A Shelfari friend introduced me to them, and I had decided to read one when I heard about Cruise getting that role. I was offended and hadn't even read the books. LOL! I mean, I could use him for an arm rest for crying out loud, and when he was cast, I just felt like they were clamping on to his celebrity to *ensure* the movie would do well. I found that icky. I'd much rather see unknowns on the big and small screen especially related to books I've read. I never read any of the books in that series.
My previous comment sat here for two days because I thought I posted it. Seriously. Sigh. SMH.
>111 Coffee.Mama: With so many Jack Reacher books out there, it was an ideal opportunity to pick someone who fit the bill and make a new 'star' - I'm sure some unknown actor would have loved the chance to 'be' Reacher... Look at Daniel Craig - a virtual nobody before James Bond.
>113 Sergeirocks: - I think it's so interesting that almost every actor who ever played James Bond is so nasty about the opportunity. I loved Daniel Craig's version but he said last year he would rather “slash his wrists” than portray the spy again. I see money has persuaded him and he's nearly certain to return one more time. I'm hoping the next one will do a good job of making the role "his own" like Craig did.
>111 Coffee.Mama: Pleased to see I am not alone in my views. Do try to give new talent a go.
>114 Olivermagnus: I've never heard Roger Moore or Pierce Brosnan say anything bad about the experience. Actually they were the only 2 to give condolences on the death or the original Q. Roger may have even gone to the funeral but yeah most of them seem nasty about the role after the fact. Interesting
>114 Olivermagnus: I'm hoping the next one will do a good job of making the role "his own" like Craig did.
I hope so too. I love how each of them brought something different to the role. Moore is my favorite, but I really liked Craig's portrayal - I thought it fit very well with the scripts he got.
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