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Take It Or Leave It Challenge - March 2017 - Page 1

75 Books Challenge for 2017

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1SqueakyChu
Edited: Feb 26, 3:11pm Top

For those new to this challenge: More info and monthly index can be found in post #1 of this thread or this TIOLI FAQS wiki.

Simple directions for posting to the wiki can be found at the bottom of each month's wiki page.


...logo by cyderry

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Your challenge for March, 2017, should be delightful. This is it…

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Read a book of which the first letter of each title word combines to make an actual word found in this Official Scrabble Dictionary.
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Rules:
1. All words of the title must be used. Use of subtitle is optional.
2. You may NOT use proper nouns for your own word. The Official Scrabble Dictionary will not allow them.
3. You may NOT use a one-letter word such as "a" for your own word (ex. for the book title "Amrita)
4. You MUST check the word to find out if it's really an OFFICIAL Scrabble word before using it.
5. The title words may NOT be rearranged.

Here’s an example:
I’ll be reading Human Acts, which is an Early Reviewer I finally need to get reviewed. Checking the word “ha” in the Official Scrabble Dictionary, I found that “ha” is a valid word.

ETA: I chose another book for this challenge, but the explanation still stands. Ha!

Here are other suggestions:
1. Open Heart (oh) by A.B. Yehoshua
2. Bodies and Souls (bas) by Isabel Vincent
3. Still Here (sh) by Lara Vapnyar

Try some letter combinations of words of which you are not sure. Maybe you will discover a new-to-you word!

Have fun!

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Other Fun Stuff (not part of the TIOLI challenge):

1. The March 2017 TIOLI Meter - Optional page on which you may track your TIOLI reading. FYI: This is not meant to be competitive - only fun!
2. Morphidae's List of Previous TIOLI Challenges - You may use this reference (Do a control-F scan) to avoid repeating a previous challenge. If your idea is similar to a previous challenge, just make it unique by adding a new "twist" to it. (Updated 01/05/17)

2SqueakyChu
Edited: Mar 14, 3:14pm Top

Wiki Index of Challenges:

Challenges #1-6
1. Read a book of which the first letter of each title word combines to make an actual word found in the Official Scrabble Dictionary - msg #1
2. Read a book set in a country other than the US, Great Britain, France or Germany - msg #3
3. Read a book set in a "Golden" age - msg #12
4. Read a book by a female author with a female main character - msg #11
5. Read a book by an author who publishes under three names - msg #13
6. Read a book with "day" or "light" in the title or author's name - msg #15

Challenges #7-12
7. Read a book where the author's first or last name has exactly five letters - msg #30
8. Read a book whose title begins with the letters of MARCH in rolling fashion - msg #36
9. Read a book that brings up a completely wrong touchstone - msg #42
10. Read a book first published by a woman between 1910 and 1930 msg #49
11. Read a book written by an author who has won a Windham Campbell Prize - msg #57
12. Read a book with a title word or author name that rhymes with "pi" - msg #58

Challenges #13-15
13. Read a book listed in 1001 Children's Books You Must Read Before You Grow Up - msg #59
14. Read a book with a title which has as its exact middle letter the last letter of the preceding book - msg #70
15. Read a book that holds an odd-numbered position in a series - msg #72

Save your challenge until April's TIOLI challenges are posted. Thank you!

3Citizenjoyce
Edited: Feb 26, 9:43pm Top

Yahoo, I found you first! I'm not sure I ever did that before.
Challenge #2: Read a book set in a real country other than the US, Great Britain, France or Germany. Name the country.
You may use only real countries in the real world, past or present.
I plan to re read The Orphan Master's Son for my real life book club.

4SqueakyChu
Feb 26, 12:18pm Top

>3 Citizenjoyce: Cool! Congrats! :)

5Citizenjoyce
Feb 26, 12:21pm Top

>4 SqueakyChu: Thanks for still being here.

6SqueakyChu
Edited: Feb 26, 12:23pm Top

ALERT!

In my challenge #1, the title words may NOT be rearranged! I added that to the rules above. Sorry I didn't make that clear from the outset.

7SqueakyChu
Edited: Feb 26, 12:25pm Top

>5 Citizenjoyce: It's been rough, Joyce. At one point this past month, I thought of throwing in the towel with TIOLI completely. From TIOLI, I want joy, not anxiety. I moved all my fears to my personal thread and hope to keep them away from others. Let me know if I falter. Thanks!

8cbl_tn
Edited: Feb 26, 12:29pm Top

>1 SqueakyChu: You might want to update the instructions in your challenge to make it clear that the letters have to be used in the order they appear in the title.

ETA: We cross-posted!

9streamsong
Feb 26, 12:46pm Top

Oh, my favorite time of the month!

Madeleine, it looks like I'll be joining you in Human Acts.

10Ameise1
Feb 26, 1:01pm Top

>1 SqueakyChu: Madeleine, words like the or a mustn't be used? Because the title Sexing the Cherry wouldn't work.

11FAMeulstee
Edited: Feb 26, 2:43pm Top

March 8th is International Women's Day.
Challenge #4: Read a book by a female author with a female main character

I will read Celia Garth (in English) by Gwen Bristow.

12Helenliz
Feb 26, 1:08pm Top

Challenge #3: Read a book set in a "Golden" age. Name the age (and be prepared to provide explanation!)

I suspect there are a two likely approaches to the current cares of the world - get involved or escape. This is for those that fancy the escape route. In this case escape to a time that can be described as a golden age. In my case I'm having a Sayers re-read session, so will be reading from the golden age of detective fiction. But you could pick something Elizabethan, or, indeed, from any other period that can be described as having been a golden age. As long as you can explain why it's a golden age, it'll be good.

13DeltaQueen50
Edited: Feb 26, 3:15pm Top

Challenge:5: Read a book by an author who is published under a three-barreled name.

Some examples are: Arthur Conan Doyle, Harriet Beecher Stowe, Edgar Allan Poe. Please note these have to be full names not initials.

14FAMeulstee
Feb 26, 1:48pm Top

>13 DeltaQueen50: The Dutch writer A.F.Th. van der Heijden started writing with the pseudonym Patrizio Canaponi, then as A.F.Th. van der Heijden and his latest books as just A.F.Th. Would this qualify for your challenge?

15lindapanzo
Feb 26, 2:25pm Top

Challenge #6: Read a book with "day" or "light" in the title or author's name

In honor of daylight savings time. Day or light can be embedded in the title

16DeltaQueen50
Feb 26, 2:29pm Top

>14 FAMeulstee: Sorry Anita, I would rather not have any initials used in this challenge.

17SqueakyChu
Feb 26, 2:43pm Top

>9 streamsong: it looks like I'll be joining you in Human Acts.

Great! It's another depressing book, but it's well written.

18SqueakyChu
Edited: Feb 26, 2:49pm Top

>10 Ameise1:

Because the title Sexing the Cherry wouldn't work.

You're right! My mistake. Good catch!

I removed that example.

19FAMeulstee
Edited: Feb 26, 2:56pm Top

>16 DeltaQueen50: No problem, Judy, I found an other in my library, Karl May wrote under at least 9(!) pseudonyms (the German LT gives 12 pseudonyms, the English LT gives 9 pseudonyms).

20SqueakyChu
Edited: Feb 26, 2:58pm Top

>10 Ameise1: Further explanation of rules for Challenge #1:

You must pull from the title word "A" or any other title word starting with A or any other title word like "the", but you cannot use for your own word the one-letter word "a" for a title such as Amrita.

How can I explain this is a simpler way?

Maybe...don't enter the word "a" into the Scrabble word finder?! :)

21SqueakyChu
Feb 26, 2:53pm Top

>8 cbl_tn: You might want to update the instructions in your challenge to make it clear that the letters have to be used in the order they appear in the title.


Done! A new rule was added (as you already know).

22Ameise1
Feb 26, 2:57pm Top

>20 SqueakyChu: I got it, Madeleine. It was my own question which I couldn't put correctly.

23SqueakyChu
Feb 26, 2:59pm Top

>21 SqueakyChu: Thanks for pointing that out, though. If it confused you, it would confuse others as well. It was really hard to explain! :D

24DeltaQueen50
Feb 26, 3:14pm Top

>19 FAMeulstee: Anita, I don't think I explained my challenge very well. I want to see authors that are known by a three-barreled name, not that have published under different names. So authors like "William Kent Krueger" or "Jessica Day George" are acceptable, pseudonyms don't count unless they are three-barreled. Sorry for the confusion.

25FAMeulstee
Edited: Feb 26, 3:20pm Top

>24 DeltaQueen50: Thanks, Judy, sometimes my English isn't good enough ;-)
So Bibi Dumon Tak would work?

26DeltaQueen50
Feb 26, 3:26pm Top

>25 FAMeulstee: Yes, that author would work! :)

27SqueakyChu
Feb 26, 3:29pm Top

We're all tongue-tied today. Haha!

28wandering_star
Feb 26, 6:38pm Top

>1 SqueakyChu: This is a perfect time for this challenge as I have recently started playing online scrabble against my mother-in-law. Now I will have a new source of unusual but scrabble-acceptable words to learn from!

I would also like to thank you for still being around.

29SqueakyChu
Feb 26, 7:00pm Top

>28 wandering_star: Yeah. I'm still here. I don't know how well behaved I'll be, though! :)

I used to love to play online Scrabble...and board Scrabble as well. A good trick to Scrabble is to know lots of short words that you can play parallel to words already on the board so that you can get points in all different ways. Glad I can be of help to you!

30susanna.fraser
Feb 26, 8:25pm Top

Challenge #7: Read a book where the author's first or last name has exactly five letters

Self-explanatory

31susanna.fraser
Feb 26, 8:27pm Top

>29 SqueakyChu: I play online Scrabble. I generally have half a dozen games going at any given time, though I only play once or twice a day. It's a good way to wind down as I'm getting ready for sleep or to pass the time waiting in line.

32susanna.fraser
Feb 26, 8:28pm Top

>3 Citizenjoyce: Do invented countries (as in science fiction or fantasy) count?

33SqueakyChu
Feb 26, 9:12pm Top

>31 susanna.fraser: I was getting pretty good at Scrabble, but then it turned out I had others things which I had to do so the games slowly ended.

34Citizenjoyce
Feb 26, 9:42pm Top

>32 susanna.fraser: I thought of that when I put up the challenge but decided against it. Only real countries in the real world, past or present.

35jeanned
Feb 27, 12:28am Top

>30 susanna.fraser: Can both the first and last names have five letters?

36raidergirl3
Feb 27, 9:56am Top

Challenge #8: Rolling challenge: Read a book whose title begins with the letters of MARCH in rolling fashion

Hadn't been done before! I always like a rolling challenge

37susanna.fraser
Feb 27, 12:21pm Top

>35 jeanned: Yes, that's fine.

>34 Citizenjoyce: I figured that was the case, but also figured it couldn't hurt to ask!

38lindapanzo
Feb 27, 1:28pm Top

>36 raidergirl3: Does the initial A, An, or The count? I notice that one person has counted one of these at the start and another has not?

39raidergirl3
Feb 27, 2:05pm Top

>38 lindapanzo: I'm okay either way. If it is easier to count 'a' or 'an' go ahead. But ignoring is the usual.

40lindapanzo
Feb 27, 2:22pm Top

>39 raidergirl3: Thanks. I thought we usually do ignore it. When my choice for this month's AAC comes up in the next available letter spot, I'll put it in then. I hope.

41Citizenjoyce
Feb 27, 3:12pm Top

>37 susanna.fraser: My view exactly.

42lyzard
Feb 27, 3:53pm Top

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Challenge #9: Read a book that brings up a completely wrong touchstone

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I'm sure we've all had a variant of this experience:

Last year I went through a phase where everything I read seemed to bring up either The Bookseller Of Kabul or Harry Potter And The Prisoner Of Azkaban; last month I read Sons by Pearl S. Buck and The Man Of The Forest by Zane Grey---which brought up The Great Gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald and Candide by Voltaire, respectively.

So let's see what other mystifications LT can throw at us!

It is easy to understand why Francis Bonnamy's Death By Appointment brings up Agatha Christie's Appointment With Death; even (if you squint) why Miles Burton's The Platinum Cat brings up The Cat's Table by Michael Ondaatje. What I'm looking for in this challenge are those touchstones that make you go, "Whuh!?"

Since touchstones do shift with access of a book, you may list a shared read even if the touchstone in question has become the "top" one when you do.

Please list your touchstone book on the wiki.

43FAMeulstee
Feb 27, 4:05pm Top

>42 lyzard: For a moment I thought the touchstone troubles were solved, the first 6 titles I tried gave the right one ;-)

44lyzard
Edited: Feb 27, 4:08pm Top

I'm jealous, never happens to me! :D

45DeltaQueen50
Feb 27, 5:20pm Top

>42 lyzard: Love your challenge, Liz! I had to move my current read there as although it's a Swedish Horror Story about a group of witches, it always comes up as Pride and Prejudice!

46dallenbaugh
Feb 27, 6:34pm Top

>42 lyzard: A question for your challenge. I tried to bring up The White Mercedes by Phillip Pullman. That is the only title on the book I have. I finally found out it is the original title of the The Butterfly Tattoo. As you can see the The White Mercedes brings up Heidi by Johanna Spyri. When searching under Phillip Pullman's name the only title I can find is The Butterfly Tattoo which brings up the book under that title but also shows the original title. I don't know how to put my book into your challenge without using The Butterfly Tattoo title. Ideas?

47lyzard
Edited: Feb 27, 7:45pm Top

>45 DeltaQueen50:

That is EXACTLY the kind of thing I had in mind!

>46 dallenbaugh:

Since I'm a stickler for original titles myself (and am constantly annoyed by unnecessary retitlings!), just list it as The White Mercedes while using the work URL for The Butterfly Tattoo.

48dallenbaugh
Feb 27, 8:04pm Top

>47 lyzard: Thanks. That will work.

49cammykitty
Edited: Feb 27, 8:33pm Top

March is women's history month, so I propose read a book written by a woman that was published between 1910 and 1930. This is the time just before the start of WW1 through the start of the Depression, and in the US these many of these writers were called the Lost Generation and included Gertrude Stein and Ernest Hemingway. Ernie isn't a woman, so he doesn't count for this challenge. ;)

50Citizenjoyce
Edited: Apr 1, 12:04am Top

My planned reading for the month:
Challenge #1: Read a book of which the first letter of each title word combines to make an actual word found in the Official Scrabble Dictionary - started by SqueakyChu
Born a Crime: Stories from a South African Childhood (bac) Trevor Noah - (4.5)
Challenge #2: Read a book set in a real country other than the US, Great Britain, France or Germany. Name the country.- started by Citizenjoyce
*✔Human Acts (South Korea) - Kang Han (3.5)
The Orphan Master's Son (North Korea) - Adam Johnson (5)
Challenge #3: Read a book set in a "Golden" age. Name the age (and be prepared to provide explanation!)- started by helenliz
Norse Mythology - Neil Gaiman (4.5)
Challenge #4: Read a book by a female author with a female main character - started by FAMeulstee
Courage to Soar: A Body in Motion, A Life in Balance - Simone Bileso
Emma - Jane Austen - Audiobook (3.5)
*✔The girl from everywhere - Heidi Heilig (3.5)
Challenge #5: Read a book by an author who publishes under three names - started by DeltaQueen
Princesses Behaving Badly: Real Stories from History Without the Fairy-Tale Endings - Linda Rodriguez McRobbie
Challenge #6: Read a book with "day" or "light" in the title or author's name - started by lindapanzo
Friday on My Mind - Nicci French (4)
Challenge #7: Read a book where the author's first or last name has exactly five letters - started by susanna.fraser
New Boy - Tracy Chevalier - hardback
The Last Runaway - Tracy Chevalier - (4)
Challenge #8: Rolling challenge: Read a book whose title begins with the letters of MARCH in rolling fashion - started by raidergirl3
Rocannon's World - Ursula K. Le Guin
Are We Smart Enough to Know How Smart Animals Are? - Frans de Waal (3.5)
Challenge #9: Read a book that brings up a completely wrong touchstone - started by lyzard
The Nix - Nathan Hill (4)
*✔Unseen - Karin Slaughter - (3.5)
Challenge #10: Read a book first published by a woman between 1910 and 1930 - started by cammykitty
*✔The Reef (1912) Edith Wharton (3.5)
Challenge #11: Read a book written by an author who has won a Windham Campbell Prize - started by dallenbaugh
The Sport of Kings: A Novel (2016 fiction) - C. E. Morgan
Challenge #12: Read a book with a title word or author name that rhymes with "pi" - started by cbl_tn
My Depression: A Picture Book - Elizabeth Swados - e-book (5)
Challenge #13: Read a book listed in 1001 Children's Books You Must Read Before You Grow Up. - started by klobrien
*✔I Capture the Castle - Dodie Smith (2.5)
*✔The Railway Children - E. Nesbit (4)
Challenge #14: Read a book with a title which has the last letter of the previous title in the middle - started by paulstalder
Trump Revealed: An American Journey of Ambition, Ego, Money, and Power - Michael Kranish (4.5)
*✔Lincoln in the Bardo - George Saunders (3.5)
Challenge #15: Read a book that holds an odd-numbered position in a series - started by JeanneD
Wake of Vultures - Lila Bowen (4.5)

51susanna.fraser
Feb 28, 7:56pm Top

>42 lyzard: Possible dumb question, but where do you find the touchstones? I tried clicking on a couple of the books people had already logged as planned reads, and I didn't see any touchstones at all on the book pages.

52cammykitty
Feb 28, 8:20pm Top

Susanna, I think they mean when you type a title in between brackets and other way around, it should pull up a touchstone, or that book or books with a similar title, but the touchstones are a bit weird on LT and it isn't that uncommon to type in something and have The Tempest or some other completely unrelated classic come up. Unseen for example brings up The Colour of Magic for who knows what reason. I think you're going to have to find out if a book fits under this category by typing the name in and seeing what happens, or seeing what other people find.

53raidergirl3
Feb 28, 8:24pm Top

>51 susanna.fraser: test it out in a message on the forums (fora?) That's how I found the Unseen one. Then delete your message unless you are posting it

54lyzard
Edited: Feb 28, 9:16pm Top

Yes, that's correct: put square brackets around your book title and then see what title comes up to the right of your message. It may or may not be the title you want; if not, there will be an 'others' link that will give you a list to choose from. If the first book that comes up is not just wrong but completely wrong, your book qualifies for this challenge! :)

55FAMeulstee
Mar 1, 1:49pm Top

>1 SqueakyChu: Madeline, I think you forgot to update the original TIOLI thread http://www.librarything.com/topic/80417

56susanna.fraser
Mar 1, 1:52pm Top

>52 cammykitty: >53 raidergirl3: >54 lyzard: Thank you! I haven't ever really used Touchstones, so I wasn't familiar with them.

57dallenbaugh
Mar 1, 6:19pm Top

Challenge #11: Read a book written by an author who has won a Windham Campbell Prize

NPR just introduced me to a literary prize I hadn’t heard of before the Windham Campbell Prize. “The mission of the prizes is to call attention to literary achievement and provide writers with the opportunity to focus on their work independent of financial concerns.”

It looks like a nice mix of diverse authors. Read any book or short story from one of these authors for any of the years.

http://windhamcampbell.org/recipients

58cbl_tn
Mar 1, 6:55pm Top

Challenge #12: Read a book with a title word or author name that rhymes with "pi"

In honor of Pi Day (March 14).

59klobrien2
Mar 1, 7:20pm Top

Challenge #13: Read a book listed in 1001 Children's Books You Must Read Before You Grow Up.

See a full list at http://www.librarything.com/bookaward/1001+Children%27s+Books+You+Must+Read+Befo... .

I'm thinking that most TIOLIers would pick a book from the later age groups, but I'm not limiting the challenge there. I'm hoping that this challenge will be NOT challenging, and actually quite a bit of fun! I am constantly trying to fill in the blanks from my childhood reading, and so I have a few books that can fit here right away.

Karen O.

60avatiakh
Mar 1, 7:49pm Top

>57 dallenbaugh: My twitter feed lit up yesterday when Ashleigh Young from NZ won, she's young and talented with one book of essays published. The writers don't even know that they've been entered for the award until they're contacted to be told they're a winner. I've requested her book from the library but I'm #44 in the queue for 5 books so doubt I'll be reading it this month.
I'll look for previous winners and see if any are on my tbr list.

61avatiakh
Mar 1, 7:50pm Top

>59 klobrien2: Thanks, I've slowly been reading from this since it was published. Will check my copy for something to add.

62dallenbaugh
Mar 1, 8:53pm Top

>60 avatiakh: This is the person I read about at NPR news: When Ali Cobby Eckermann received the email announcing she'd won one of the world's richest literary prizes, the unemployed Aboriginal poet says she had no idea what to think — though two thoughts weren't long in coming.

After she wrapped her head around the fact she'd just won a $165,000 Windham-Campbell Prize, Eckermann told The Guardian that she "pretty much just cried." The poet, who now lives in a caravan in South Australia with her elderly adoptive mother, added: "It's going to change my life completely."

Both her and her mother were separated from their parents and sent to be assimilated with parents from a different culture. I just ordered her memoir Too Afraid to Cry as a used book thru amazon.

63SqueakyChu
Mar 1, 8:54pm Top

>55 FAMeulstee: Thanks! I always forget to update that page!

64avatiakh
Mar 1, 9:59pm Top

>62 dallenbaugh: I saw that an indigenous Australian writer had also won, didn't read her reaction, that's wonderful. The first tweet I saw was from a local writer congratulating Ashleigh Young who is currently editing her book at Victoria University Press.

65wandering_star
Edited: Mar 2, 1:56am Top

>57 dallenbaugh: Thanks for drawing my attention to this - it's an excellent list with some people whose work I like and many I have never heard of! A lot to follow up. The first name I saw was Maya Jasanoff whose first book I own, so here's a good excuse to take it off the shelf.

66SqueakyChu
Mar 2, 9:31am Top

>57 dallenbaugh: Thank you for introducing us to the Windham Campbell Prize. I love when prizes are given to excellent authors who need financial support to keep writing. I also love when word goes about promising talented authors who need the public's support.

The only author who is familiar to me from the list prize-winners is Jim Crace. My husband just finished one of his books this past week, and I had read a different book by the same author in the past.

67katiekrug
Mar 2, 9:48am Top

I took a brief look at the recipients of the Windham Campbell Prize (I plan to look more carefully when I have more time!) and saw John Vaillant on there. It notes his nonfiction, but I highly recommend his novel The Jaguar's Children for anyone interested in immigration and border issues, as well as Mexican folklore. It's a wonderful but heartbreaking book.

68elkiedee
Mar 2, 12:52pm Top

I recommend Aminatta Forna's books - her memoir and second and third novels are all excellent.

69FAMeulstee
Mar 2, 1:08pm Top

None of the winners sounded familiar to me, I found 10 titles of winners available at my library. I reserved a copy of the Dutch translation of An End to Suffering: The Buddha in the World by Pankaj Mishra as it sounded interesting.

70paulstalder
Edited: Mar 4, 4:23am Top

a bit late but here is my challenge:
Challenge #14: Read a book with a title which has the last letter of the previous title in the middle

Read a book with a title which has an uneven number of letters and/or numbers. Then determine the letter in the middle (counting all letters and numbers inclusive the article but without any subtitles or serial titles). If that letter in the middle matches the last letter of the title previously found in the challenge, you can add that title to the challenge. Please highlight the middle and the last letter.

The best a man can get --> 17 letters, the title ends with t, so the the t must appear in the middle of the next title
Die Straße --> 9 letters, the German ß counts as one letter (if so written on the title page)
Regenbogen im Sturm --> 17 letters

edited to add >71's paraphrased version: My interpretation: Read a book with a title which has as its middle letter the last letter of the preceding title.

Thanks for clarification of my poor English. I wonder now what I actually understand when reading an English book ... I hope, nobody asks :)

71SqueakyChu
Edited: Mar 4, 8:20am Top

>70 paulstalder: Huh?

LOL! I finally get it.

My interpretation: Read a book with a title which has as its exact middle letter the last letter of the preceding title.

72jeanned
Mar 3, 10:27pm Top

Challenge #15: Read a book that holds an odd-numbered position in a series

I've got several of these hanging around....
Monster (Alex Delaware #13)
Frozen Tracks (Erik Winter #5)
A Grave Talent (Kate Martinelli #1)

73Helenliz
Mar 4, 4:14am Top

>72 jeanned: don't we all have the unfinished series issue?

74lyzard
Mar 4, 4:49pm Top

>72 jeanned:

Only several!? :D

75jeanned
Mar 5, 12:16pm Top

>73 Helenliz: >74 lyzard: Hehehe! Several with authors whose last names begin with E and K. Who knows how many are actually holding up Mt. TBR?

76raidergirl3
Mar 5, 1:01pm Top

Hey Citizenjoyce, sorry I messed up Challenge #14 on you. I swear, I counted the letters over and over,* hangs head*. Hope you find a place for the George Saunders.

77Citizenjoyce
Mar 5, 2:23pm Top

>76 raidergirl3: Who knew counting could be so difficult? I have to do it repeatedly on these titles.

78klobrien2
Mar 5, 2:54pm Top

I know! I counted my letters probably half a dozen times, just to make sure. I was so surprised that I actually had one to fit the challenge!

Karen O.

79FAMeulstee
Edited: Mar 5, 3:17pm Top

The same her, counting, counting, counting again and finally I did this:

 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 910111213141516171819202122232425
fill in title above the numbers (space between each letter), so counting is a bit easier, a few tries and then I had a right title :-)

80klobrien2
Edited: Mar 5, 4:30pm Top

>79 FAMeulstee: That's using the old noggin! I was getting so disappointed, because I have several books I'm planning to read that have an EVEN number of letters! Unfair! But I found my book, and it looks really good, to boot! Not in God's Name by Oliver Sacks (and it just pulled up a touchstone of 1984, so I could have put it in the "really wrong touchstone" challenge, too!)

Karen O.

81raidergirl3
Mar 5, 4:45pm Top

>80 klobrien2: ach, I messed this up so much. It looks like your title is after Joyce's which is based on my bad title. We are back to one with an 'h' in the middle. Sorry!

82lyzard
Mar 5, 4:54pm Top

>81 raidergirl3:

Maybe someone can find a substitute book for the 'bad' one? What letter would be required? I haven't looked into this yet.

83klobrien2
Edited: Mar 5, 4:59pm Top

Paulstalder, what do you think? Can we just continue on from where we'd be if raidergirl3's book had been good? Both citizenjoyce and I have added books since; I thought we were just continuing on as we would if a rolling challenge had a "not finished."

Karen O.

p.s. this challenge is really hard! I hope you let us continue from "point B"!

84FAMeulstee
Mar 5, 4:59pm Top

I am going to look if I can find a book with an h in the middle ending with n.

85raidergirl3
Mar 5, 5:30pm Top

>83 klobrien2: At the very least, as soon as a word ends in 'n' your two books jump in.

86FAMeulstee
Mar 5, 5:32pm Top

YES I found one, Blote handen will add it to the challenge :-)

87SqueakyChu
Mar 5, 7:12pm Top

88Citizenjoyce
Mar 5, 9:23pm Top

>86 FAMeulstee: Wonder Woman saves the day!

89paulstalder
Mar 6, 4:19am Top

Hej everybody, I didn't expect my challenge to be such a challenge :) First my wording was a bit mixed up and know your counting :)

I do agree with >83 klobrien2: to let the list continue after the break with the plea for somebody to fill in the gap when found such a book, and that happened now. Well done.

90paulstalder
Mar 6, 4:21am Top

>86 FAMeulstee: a Dutch treat, I assume

91FAMeulstee
Mar 6, 7:46am Top

>87 SqueakyChu: & >88 Citizenjoyce: Thanks ladies, it took some time, but eventually I found the fitting book in my own library.

>90 paulstalder: He is a Flemish writer, Paul.

92wandering_star
Mar 6, 8:42am Top

Excited that dallenbaugh is reading Fifteen Dogs for Challenge #11, I almost just bought that to read for the challenge myself! Would love to hear if you enjoy it.

93dallenbaugh
Edited: Mar 6, 9:02am Top

>92 wandering_star: I'll let you know. I bought it for an earlier challenge last year, but I can't remember which one so it has been waiting for me awhile since I never got to it. Fortunately on TIOLI what goes around often comes around!

94klobrien2
Mar 6, 11:20am Top

>86 FAMeulstee: You are amazing! Thank you so much!

Karen O.

95elkiedee
Mar 6, 12:09pm Top

For Paul's challenge, I add up letters word by word eg The (3) Woman (5) in (2) the (3) Picture (7) - that adds up to 20 so I can't put the book in that challenge.

96FAMeulstee
Mar 6, 1:36pm Top

>94 klobrien2: Not amazing, Karen, just lucky to have the right book.

>95 elkiedee: Funny how we have different ways to do the same :-)

97lyzard
Mar 6, 5:18pm Top

I've added a book to #14---I don't suppose anyone would like to check that I've done it right?? :D

98PawsforThought
Mar 6, 5:32pm Top

>97 lyzard: You've done it right. :)

99fuzzi
Mar 6, 5:33pm Top

>97 lyzard: it looks fine to me.

100lyzard
Mar 6, 6:16pm Top

Thanks - phew! :)

101raidergirl3
Mar 7, 2:28pm Top

I tried again, and I'm 99% sure I got it right this time on Challenge #14.
David and Goliath by Malcolm Gladwell. *crosses fingers*

I don't like thinking I can't get this right.

102DeltaQueen50
Mar 7, 2:41pm Top

>101 raidergirl3: Looks perfect to me! :)

103paulstalder
Mar 7, 2:41pm Top

>101 raidergirl3: you're right, you got it right :)

104PawsforThought
Mar 7, 2:43pm Top

>101 raidergirl3: Looks right to me, unless I've suddenly lost the ability to count.

105paulstalder
Edited: Mar 7, 2:45pm Top

Fahrenheit 451 Has anybody got a 1 in the middle somewhere for my challenge 14? If yes, I would read it now, if no, I can wait with it.

Fahrenheit 451

107klobrien2
Mar 7, 6:50pm Top

>101 raidergirl3: I'm so glad that you found a book that fits! This challenge is one of the most *challenging* that I can remember. And, of course, look who the author of it is! Mr. paulstalder! :)

Karen O.

108countrylife
Mar 7, 7:33pm Top

>105 paulstalder: : Paul, sorry - I just saw these last 5 messages. Shall I remove my listing on #14 that uses the middle h?

109Morphidae
Mar 8, 2:05am Top

Dropping in but don't know yet if I'll participate this month as I've been/I'm in the hospital/rehab. It may be a couple more weeks.

110paulstalder
Mar 8, 3:14am Top

>108 countrylife: No, leave it as it is. I just wanted to make things a bit more difficult. I have read Fahrenheit 451 ages ago and don't have to reread it just now.

111BenRiach
Mar 8, 4:26am Top

I just read Winters Day, by DM Wolfenden. It was a 5 star read for me.

112BenRiach
Mar 8, 4:28am Top

I'm going to read Can you keep a secret, Sophie Kinsella next

113BenRiach
Mar 8, 4:38am Top

I'll Read Cynthia and Dan by Dorthy May Mercer

114fuzzi
Mar 8, 12:42pm Top

>109 Morphidae: get better!

115Citizenjoyce
Mar 8, 4:43pm Top

>109 Morphidae: Rehab is a wonderful thing, hope it works for you. My daughter works in animal rehab and has had some amazing results.

116Citizenjoyce
Mar 8, 4:48pm Top

Shoot, my copy of The Nix just came in, it's set in Chicago, has 6 letters and the male author's name has 6 and 4 letters. Never mind, I just saw that the touchstone came up as Oliver Twist, yay.

117lyzard
Mar 8, 5:43pm Top

118SqueakyChu
Mar 8, 9:05pm Top

>109 Morphidae: A speedy return to us in full health, Morphy!

119DeltaQueen50
Mar 9, 3:10pm Top

>109 Morphidae: Hope all goes well and you are home again and back with us real soon, Morphy!

120klobrien2
Edited: Mar 9, 8:43pm Top

I just added March: Book Three to Challenge 9 (goofy touchstone) because it, indeed, pulls up Frankenstein. The first two volumes of "March" by John Lewis are in Challenge 8, but the third volume needed a home. I was going to put it in Challenge 7 (author first or last name of five characters), but when life gives you a goofy touchstone...

Karen O.

p.s. Hi, Morphy! Great to see you posting!

121raidergirl3
Mar 9, 9:09pm Top

>120 klobrien2: ha, I was thinking the same thing. I was going to put it at 5 letter author name. It needed a home for sure.

122lyzard
Mar 9, 9:10pm Top

That's a good one!

123FAMeulstee
Mar 10, 1:50pm Top

I was just checking the Wiki and noticed that Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind is listed twice, but at different challenges #5 avatiakh and #7 LizzieD. If one is moved it could be a shared read.

124avatiakh
Mar 11, 3:48pm Top

I saw that too, but I'm not sure I'll get it read in time so should really remove my entry.

125Helenliz
Mar 12, 11:14am Top

My reading's slowed down a bit, such that I'm wondering if I'll even finish my latest book in March... which is disappointing, as it could find several places to fit!

126lindapanzo
Mar 12, 8:26pm Top

>125 Helenliz: My reading is extremely slow this month, too. I'm making great progress on my book but it's close to 1,000 pages long and I've still got a lot to go.

127jennyifer24
Mar 12, 10:32pm Top

>59 klobrien2:
I was excited to find something I hadn't read before, and then ended up picking out Island of the Blue Dolphins which is a favorite from growing up. So I didn't expand my horizons, but at least I'm revisiting a favorite I haven't read in a long, long time! :-)

128fuzzi
Mar 13, 11:08am Top

>127 jennyifer24: I love that book. Did you know there was a sequel, Zia?

129klobrien2
Edited: Mar 13, 8:35pm Top

>127 jennyifer24: That's great! I was hoping to prompt a return to the joy of reading for those who may be in a slump or the doldrums. I might have to take a look at the Island of the Blue Dolphins: another benefit to reading these books is that they are usually shorter and might even have pictures! :)

Karen O.

130Citizenjoyce
Mar 14, 3:16pm Top

Can anyone help me find a place for Evicted: Poverty and Profit in the American City by Matthew Desmond? Alas, the touchstone is correct.

131dallenbaugh
Mar 15, 2:24pm Top

>92 wandering_star: I can't say I enjoyed Fifteen Dogs but it was definitely worth the read for me. You can read my comments here: comments

132wandering_star
Mar 15, 8:47pm Top

Thanks for letting me know - although I couldn't see the comments on that link, just the book within your catalogue.

133dallenbaugh
Mar 15, 9:13pm Top

I tried the link and my comments are on the right hand side but you have to click on the comments link not the title link . Most reviews are different than my comments so take that into consideration.

134jennyifer24
Edited: Mar 16, 7:02pm Top

>128 fuzzi: Thanks!! I think I knew there's a sequel, but I don't think I've read it. I'll have to hunt it down.

>129 klobrien2: It was fun to scroll through the list and remember some favorites! (also good procrastination from working on report cards!)

edited b/c I accidentally responded to myself...oops

135SqueakyChu
Mar 16, 8:55pm Top

TIOLI Question of the Month:

Has any book you read this month left you feeling very sad? If so, what was the book, and why were you made so sad by it?

136lindapanzo
Mar 16, 9:13pm Top

>135 SqueakyChu: This afternoon, I finished the 1,100 page book, Parting the Waters, the first in the Martin Luther King trilogy, by Taylor Branch.

It was probably one of the most difficult, that is painful, books I've ever read. It took me 3 weeks and, every night, I'd read for an hour or two before I went to bed. I'd go to bed either exultant or on the verge of tears. Some of the things the segregationists did to the nonviolent marchers, especially the children, was absolutely horrific. I felt sad/angry often. Who shuts down an entire library or an entire school for everyone just because they don't want a black person to check out a book or a black child to attend?

137raidergirl3
Mar 16, 9:18pm Top

Following up on >136 lindapanzo:,
I've finished the first two books of March by John Lewis and the inhuman treatment in the 1960s of African-Americans is so sad. And maddening and a bunch of other emotions. How people can treat other people so badly is discouraging.

138cammykitty
Edited: Mar 16, 9:28pm Top

>136 lindapanzo: We're looking at the Norman Rockwell of Ruby Bridges going to school and comparing it to an excerpt from the news coverage of it. Such a little girl! And the article says she spent the day in the principal's office because most of the white parents had kept their kids at home, and the ones that hadn't decided too couldn't get past the mob that was trying to keep her from going to school. It's pretty hard to believe now. How can so many people feel threatened by such a little girl.

139lindapanzo
Edited: Mar 16, 9:54pm Top

The murders, the beatings, the bombings, siccing vicious dogs on little kids, blasting the kids away with high pressure hoses, charging the victim of a beating with a crime instead of the person doing the beating. It all got to be too much after awhile. Yet the victories made me cheer. I definitely want to read the next two Taylor Branch MLK books but need some lighter reading for awhile to calm down.

I knew that J. Edgar Hoover would not be portrayed well but I was very disappointed/sad reading about how JFK/RFK acted, too.

140lyzard
Mar 16, 10:15pm Top

>135 SqueakyChu:

I haven't read it yet...

141dallenbaugh
Mar 16, 10:16pm Top

I was very sad reading my early reviewer's book The Color of Our Sky a story centered around the prevalence of child prostitution in India often starting with children as young as 8 and 10 years old.

142paulstalder
Mar 17, 5:04pm Top

>135 SqueakyChu: I just finished Die Strasse by Cormac McCarthy, a story about a nameless father and his son walking the street south after a world wide catastrophe. There seems to be no hope. The son notices that the father's stories are about a far-gone world he never knew - and are lies most of the time. The relationship of the father to his son is sometimes very touching. They have only each other but sometimes seem to be so far from one-another.

143klobrien2
Mar 17, 5:49pm Top

>142 paulstalder: The English title of that book is The Road, and I agree with you, Paul--a very sad book. But very memorable and involving.

Karen O.

144SqueakyChu
Mar 18, 10:23am Top

>142 paulstalder: >143 klobrien2:

I read that book as well and found the father-son relationship very touching as well although the story was so bleak. I recommend this book for anyone who has not yet read it.

145jeanned
Mar 18, 1:06pm Top

>135 SqueakyChu: This month I read Redeployment by Phil Klay, a heartbreaking collection of short stories about US military in Afghanistan and Iraq, their attempts to maintain ideals like duty and morality in a chaotic and brutal reality.

146FAMeulstee
Mar 19, 5:36am Top

Today I finished my last book for the March sweep:

#1: Lieve oma Pluis (lop) by Dick Bruna
#2: Heraios en de beker (ancient Greece) by Sacha Burger & *Tegenvoeters (Australia) by Bill Bryson
#3: Hoe schilder hoe wilder - Leiden & Hoe schilder hoe wilder - Haarlem (Dutch golden age, 17th century) by Miep Diekmann
#4: Celia Garth by Gwen Bristow
#5: Winterdieren by Bibi Dumon Tak
#6: Het dansende licht by Tonke Dragt
#7: De zwerfkatten by Betsy Byars & Het laatste lijk by Ellis Peters
#8: Rokus en het tiende leven by Alet Schouten
#9: Balthasar (The Confessions) by Henri van Daele
#10: De man in het bruine pak (1924) by Agatha Christie
#11: De Boeddha in de wereld by Pankaj Mishra (2014 Non Fiction)
#12: By the river (Aan de rivier) by Steven Herrick
#13: Chocolade oorlog by Robert Cormier
#14: De geest op de rotswand by Ann O'Neal Garcia & Blote handen by Bart Moeyaert
#15: Zoon (My struggle 3) by Karl Ove Knausgård

147Helenliz
Mar 19, 8:57am Top

>146 FAMeulstee: congratulations! I'm always impressed when someone a) reads that many books and b) gets the to fit!

148SqueakyChu
Mar 19, 10:25am Top

>146 FAMeulstee: Congratulations on being such s devoted reader!

149klobrien2
Edited: Mar 19, 1:35pm Top

>146 FAMeulstee: Excellent! I am aiming for a sweep myself, but having trouble with #11. Having a dickens of a time (get it?!) finding a book to read that is accessible. Still looking!

Congratulations on yet another sweep!

Karen O.

p.s. to all: this month has only 15 challenges (lower than our usual, I think). It's a good month to try for the sweep, and the month is only 2/3 gone.

150klobrien2
Mar 19, 1:44pm Top

Not ten minutes ago, I said, "I am aiming for a sweep myself, but having trouble with #11"

Haha! I'll be reading Dusk and Other Stories by James Salter, who won the Fiction award in 2013!

Karen O.

151DeltaQueen50
Mar 19, 3:00pm Top

>146 FAMeulstee: Congratulations, Anita, your reading is very impressive. I too, am trying for my first sweep of the Challenges, still have a couple of books to go but should get there well before the month ends.

And >150 klobrien2: Karen, I read James Salter for Challenge #11 and really enjoyed his writing, hope you do as well. :)

152FAMeulstee
Mar 19, 3:32pm Top

Thanks Helen, Madeline, Karen and Judy.
I found the Pankaj Mishra book for challenge #11 very interesting and informative.

Good luck with finishing your sweep Karen and Judy!

153countrylife
Mar 19, 7:19pm Top

I was just thinking about you this morning, Anita, thinking it's about that time of the month to hear about your sweep! Congratulations. Again!

154Citizenjoyce
Mar 19, 10:51pm Top

>146 FAMeulstee: very impressive. Congratulations.

155cammykitty
Edited: Mar 19, 11:56pm Top

>146 FAMeulstee: Way to go!
I think I just finished my fourth TIOLI for the month? for me that's pretty good. I often only get one done.

156avatiakh
Mar 20, 12:16am Top

Great to see a sweep again Anita.

157FAMeulstee
Mar 20, 5:15am Top

Thanks Cindy, Joyce, Katie and Kerry!

>153 countrylife: You made me laugh :-)

158DeltaQueen50
Mar 20, 2:27pm Top

I did it! I completed my first sweep of the TIOLI Challenges!

159lindapanzo
Mar 20, 2:27pm Top

>158 DeltaQueen50: Way to go, Judy!!

160FAMeulstee
Mar 20, 2:57pm Top

>158 DeltaQueen50: Yes!! Congratulations, Judy!

161SqueakyChu
Mar 20, 4:32pm Top

>158 DeltaQueen50: Wow! Congratulations your very first TIOLI sweep!

162Helenliz
Mar 20, 5:19pm Top

163klobrien2
Edited: Mar 20, 5:28pm Top

>151 DeltaQueen50: And it was your read of Salter that prompted me to go searching for his books! I didn't find the book that you read, but I thank you for being a Salter pioneer! I just saw that my book is in at the library, so I'll be able to get to it really soon!

I've been impatiently awaiting some books in the mail--a slew of Robert Alter books for my reading in the "Bible as Literature" thread, and one little paperback, Bullet for a Star for my TIOLI #3 read. I felt led to check the front steps, et voila! Treasures in the mail. I'm so happy!

Karen O.

164Citizenjoyce
Mar 20, 11:08pm Top

>158 DeltaQueen50:, Way to go. Congratulations.

165Citizenjoyce
Mar 20, 11:39pm Top

>135 SqueakyChu: I've read a few sad books this month. Trevor Noah's Born a Crime: Stories from a South African Childhood told of the absurd racist oppression in South Africa and also the domestic violence that resulted from misogyny. But sadder to me, because it affects me and my country personally, was Trump Revealed: An American Journey of Ambition, Ego, Money, and Power by Michael Kranish that reminded me how this corrupt, evil man shaped by his very corrupt and evil mentor, Roy Cohn, is now president of my country and acting with the completed disregard of law that has characterized his whole adult life. This is a political statement, but that's what the book is about.

166fuzzi
Mar 21, 9:32am Top

>165 Citizenjoyce: one book does not necessarily reveal the truth.

There's a lot of biased writings out there, as I've come to realize over my lifetime.

167SqueakyChu
Mar 21, 12:06pm Top

>165 Citizenjoyce: I think a lot of us feel we need to read more about politics these days even if we're not discussing it on this thread.

168Citizenjoyce
Edited: Mar 21, 3:38pm Top

>135 SqueakyChu: and now (because of you, Madeline) I'm reading Human Acts about political repression in South Korea. Lordy! However, that's balanced with The Practice House about a Scottish woman who comes to the US in the 19th century and works in a tiny rural school in Kansas. Yes she faces difficulties, but normal human ones and the forces of nature. And the twisted human psyches she faces are just a little twisted. It is a relief.

169nrmay
Mar 21, 3:40pm Top

>166 fuzzi:

What you say is true, but just to note - Michael Kranish is a renowned journalist with the Washington Post and winner of multiple awards. A credible author I should think.

170DeltaQueen50
Mar 21, 5:22pm Top

Thanks for the congrats everyone. One more thing I can wipe off my bucket list!

>163 klobrien2: Those are best days, when the mailman comes and leaves us a nice bookish package. Enjoy your books!

171susanna.fraser
Mar 21, 8:48pm Top

Congrats to our sweepers!

172streamsong
Mar 22, 10:06am Top

Congrats to the sweepers!

It does make me sad when people call something biased because they do not agree with the conclusions. It takes thoughtful reading of both what you agree with and positions you don't agree with to assess truth.

Citizenjoyce - will you accept Martinique in your challenge #3? It's technically an 'insular region of France', but being the Caribbean, it couldn't be more different. (Looking for a spot for Texaco by Patrick Chamoiseau ).

173lindapanzo
Mar 22, 1:25pm Top

>172 streamsong: Well said. I read the NY Times and my local paper, the Chicago Tribune, daily and read portions of the Washington Post regularly as well. The Times and the Post, and to a lesser extent, the Trib, include columnists with many different points of view and I appreciate reading thoughtful, well-written commentary, even if it doesn't agree with my point of view. Sometimes, especially because it doesn't agree with my point of view.

I consider the Times and the Post to be our "newspapers of record" and they do a better job than anyone at getting it right. If someone associated with one of these two papers writes a book, no doubt he or she has a strong point of view but I expect that it will be accurate, even if their facts do not fit everyone's political narratives.

I know that some people like to read books about current politicians. I typically do not as I hate to waste my limited, valuable book reading time on books on this and feel I get more benefit from reading articles, as mentioned above. However, I do read occasional books on the current state of American society, which may touch upon something some perceive as evident in the current Administration. For instance, I just became aware of The Death of Expertise: The Campaign Against Established Knowledge and Why It Matters by Thomas M. Nichols and hope to get to that one asap. The fact that ignorance has become a virtue and that a person's opinion, often ill advised and not based on facts and/or reality, has become as important as an expert's in-depth knowledge and experience is, to me, one of the most troubling characteristics of our modern times. (And yes, I suddenly realize that I do sound like my mother.)

For instance, I've worked at my job as a legal analyst on various subjects for more than 30 years. I would not have retained my job for that period if I based my work solely on opinion. Thus, naturally, it infuriates me when someone tells me that I'm wrong to say that the ACA was debated at length and with extensive GOP input or that I shouldn't say that the ACA is actually based on principles first set forth by conservative Republicans, when in fact, it was.

174Citizenjoyce
Edited: Mar 23, 1:21am Top

>173 lindapanzo: One thing we Librarythingers have in common is that we love to read. Part of reading is learning new things. It always amazes be when I read about governmental regimes in which education and the educated are demonized. Such opinion seems to go against human nature.
Speaking of learning new things, I just finished Human Acts in which I learned the specific details of torture. I gave up reading such books years ago when I overread books about the Holocaust. I can't say I can recommend such graphic details to anyone. At the same time I'm reading Emma in which all the characters refer to everything in such oblique ways that the characters themselves don't know what's being said or about whom. Usually that kind of conversation drives me crazy, but I would have appreciated some of it in Human Acts. Perhaps the best way to analyze the actions of people who have been tortured is to describe just what they were up against, but, I have to vote for another way. A little Austen can make reading bearable.

175streamsong
Mar 23, 3:56pm Top

>174 Citizenjoyce: Did you see my question for you in >172 streamsong:?

I also need to read Human Acts for LTER. I've been dragging my feet on it.

176Citizenjoyce
Edited: Mar 23, 4:09pm Top

>175 streamsong: Doggone it, I'm sorry. Yes, your book would count.
Human Acts is a very good book, but had I known how graphic the torture descriptions are, I would not have read it.

177streamsong
Edited: Mar 25, 1:26am Top

>176 Citizenjoyce: Thank you! Into challenge 2 it goes.

Yes, I'm afraid to read the graphic torture. I'm not sure I can get those kind of pictures out of my head.

178SqueakyChu
Edited: Mar 27, 2:39pm Top

TIOLI Stats for February 2017

In February, 2017, we read a total of 292 books (the lowest number since 2010) with 53 (or 18%) shared reads. We accumulated a YTD total of 59 TIOLI points (the lowest number since 2010).

The most popular books were these reads, each with three readers:
The Devil in the Marshalsea - Antonia Hodgson (3 readers)
The Long Way to a Small Angry Planet - Becky Chambers (3 readers)
Yuge!: 30 Years of Doonesbury on Trump - G. B. Trudeau (3 readers)
Born a Crime - Trevor Noah (3 readers)
March: Book One - John Lewis (3 readers)
March: Book Two - John Lewis (3 readers)
March: Book Three - John Lewis (3 readers)

The most popular challenge was DeltaQueen's challenge to read a book where the author’s first name begins with an A, B, or C. This challenge had 34 readers.

The challenge with the most TIOLI points (nine) was madhatter22's challenge to read a memoir by a living author of a different gender from yours. This challenge accumulated 9 TIOLI points.

Stay tuned for our TIOLI Awards for February, 2017!

179SqueakyChu
Mar 27, 2:57pm Top

The February, 2017, TIOLI Awards!

The Guilt-Inducing Award goes to wandering_star for reading Wild Strawberries for this challenger's own challenge to read a book that's relevant to one of your new year's resolutions. The resolution was to do more gardening. A glance out of my back window said this challenger deserves a huge award! It might just get me going this spring.

The La La La Award goes to inge87 for reading The Remembered Land: Surviving Sea-level Rise after the Last Ice Age for thornton37814's challenge to read a book with a title word beginning with "L". This challenger's book has three words (sort of) starting with L. I must be in La La Land!

You are invited to add some awards to this list. Congrats to our Award Winners!

180Citizenjoyce
Mar 27, 4:35pm Top

>179 SqueakyChu: I actually started some gardening this month, so thanks wandering-star for getting me out there.

181wandering_star
Mar 27, 7:11pm Top

>170 DeltaQueen50:, >180 Citizenjoyce: Glad to hear that! Unfortunately I didn't manage to use that challenge to galvanise my own NY resolutions!

182Citizenjoyce
Mar 27, 8:31pm Top

>181 wandering_star: How often the case.

183fuzzi
Mar 28, 9:44am Top

>169 nrmay: >172 streamsong: I am sorry if I was not clear. I did not mean to suggest that any particular author was biased, just that there was a lot of biased writing out there.

I don't accept any source as biased or unbiased just because it's "The Times" or "The Post", or some "award-winning author", just as I don't accept any statement from news sources or politicians or even the President without fact-checking on my own.

Unfortunately, I have discovered that many so-called reputable news sources and fact-checking sites have become more biased, hence the need to not accept one source as "truth".

Off the soapbox...

184fuzzi
Mar 28, 9:45am Top

And congratulations to all the sweepers! I'd love to do that some day. :)

185dallenbaugh
Mar 28, 11:52am Top

>I would imagine most writers have a bias and I allow them that if they use information that has been or can be fact checked.

186fuzzi
Mar 28, 1:24pm Top

187klobrien2
Mar 29, 5:17pm Top



Yay! I just finished my 15th challenge fulfillment, so I managed a sweep of TIOLI this month! It was fun!

I have a few sharing reads left to finish up in the next few days, then on to April!

Karen O.

188lindapanzo
Mar 29, 5:20pm Top

>187 klobrien2: Congrats!!

For April, I am optimistically filling in a book for each challenge. So far in 2017, my reading totals have been way below normal but maybe this'll get me back on track.

189FAMeulstee
Mar 29, 6:54pm Top

Congratulations on your sweep, Karen!

190dallenbaugh
Mar 29, 7:15pm Top

Congrats to all of you sweepers. Brooms to the ready for next month.

191susanna.fraser
Mar 29, 8:31pm Top

>187 klobrien2: Congrats!

192SqueakyChu
Mar 29, 11:35pm Top

>187 klobrien2: Hurray for Karen! Congrats on your sweep!!

193DeltaQueen50
Mar 30, 12:57am Top

Congatulations, Karen!

194Citizenjoyce
Mar 30, 3:54am Top

>187 klobrien2: Great job, congrats.

195lyzard
Edited: Mar 31, 1:53am Top

...and I am in under the wire with A SWEEP!!

As with the other time I managed this, it was deep into the month before I really grasped that I had a shot at it, and then I had to scramble! (Doing absolutely nothing but read was a big help, too...)

#1: N or M? by Agatha Christie
#2: The Hermit In Van Diemen's Land by Henry Savery
#3: The Greene Murder Case by S. S. Van Dine
#4: Lady Of Quality by Georgette Heyer
#5: Lost Man's Lane by Anna Katharine Green
#6: Daylight Murder by Paul McGuire
#7: Main Street by Sinclair Lewis
#8: Arresting Delia by Sydney Fowler
#9: The Duke's Children by Anthony Trollope
#10: Feathers Left Around by Carolyn Wells
#11: This House Of Grief by Helen Garner
#12: Dr Nikola by Guy Newell Boothby
#13: The Magic Pudding by Norman Lindsay
#14: The Linger-Nots And The Valley Feud by Agnes Miller
#15: Flying Clues by Charles J. Dutton

196avatiakh
Mar 31, 1:59am Top

Congratulations to all our sweepers, I've still to do this.

197DeltaQueen50
Mar 31, 2:01am Top

Way to go, Liz!

198Helenliz
Mar 31, 2:15am Top

Congratulations!

199Citizenjoyce
Mar 31, 2:36am Top

>195 lyzard: Sweeping in under the deadline, congrats.

200FAMeulstee
Mar 31, 3:37am Top

>195 lyzard: Congratulations on your sweep, Liz!

201lyzard
Mar 31, 4:09am Top

Thanks, everyone! Much appreciated. :)

202Helenoel
Mar 31, 7:24am Top

No sweep here, I doubt I'll ever manage one, but I got seven books into the lists in March! a personal accomplishment.

203FAMeulstee
Mar 31, 8:49am Top

>202 Helenoel: Corgrats with a personal best, Helen!

204streamsong
Mar 31, 9:11am Top

Congrats to sweepers and personal bests!

I'm trying to finish Human Acts today. I only have about 25 pages left. I agree with earlier comments that it's a tough but wonderful book, and like Madeleine said, very saddening. Before I started reading it, I had not heard of the Gwangiu Uprising and Massacre. Many years ago we had a post doc in our lab who had been in Tiananmen Square when the tanks rolled in. This reminds me so much of his story.

205SqueakyChu
Mar 31, 11:18am Top

>195 lyzard: Wow, Liz! I'm impressed. Congratulations!

206SqueakyChu
Mar 31, 11:18am Top

>202 Helenoel: Congrats on your numbers!

207elkiedee
Mar 31, 12:31pm Top

Congratulations Liz and Helen. I have done a couple of sweeps in the past then my reading slowed right down. Reading has picked up a bit again recently, and I've read the number but not spread across all the challenges enough. I have lots of library books, some have other reservations and can't be renewed, lots of review books, and a couple of RL group read books, normally.

208SqueakyChu
Mar 31, 10:05pm Top

Housekeeping Day!

Please remove from the wikis any books you do not finish by midnight tonight (except for the rolling challenge. For those, leave the book title and remove other information).

Thanks so much!

209lindapanzo
Mar 31, 10:29pm Top

>208 SqueakyChu: Sigh. Slow reading month. I think I have a lot to clean out.

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