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jessibud2 - Late to the Party... #2

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Feb 26, 6:43pm Top

Well, this is a first for me: a second thread! So, my big question is, how do I transfer my tickers? I will try first to just copy and paste but something tells me it can't be that simple....

Hmmm, I was right. Ok, I will try something else...

Edited: Feb 26, 8:28pm Top

Feb 26, 7:51pm Top

Happy new thread Shelley. xx

Hope you get your setting up complications sorted.

Go back to your thread #1 open up the post you want to bring over, highlight and copy it. Come back to your new thread and on the next new post click into it and then paste and then click post.

You have to do them one at a time to get the touchstones etc right.

Edited: Feb 26, 8:32pm Top

To celebrate Canada's 150th anniversary of Confederation, I am going to make a concerted effort to read more Canadian books this year:

Feb 26, 8:34pm Top

>3 PaulCranswick: - Thanks, Paul! Of course! I forgot to go into the edit mode to copy and paste. DUH!

Feb 26, 8:41pm Top

Happy New Thread, Shelley! Hooray for #2!!

Just turned on the Oscars.

Feb 26, 9:13pm Top

Hi Mark. I am also watching the Oscars. Jimmy Kimmel is a hoot!!

Feb 26, 9:30pm Top

I think Kimmel is doing a good job too.

Yah, for Ali in Moonlight. I loved that performance.

Feb 27, 12:12am Top

Huzzah! A new thread.

I just noted at Joe's Cafe that were going to the Sally Mann documentary today. I just finished her memoir, Hold Still, and it is just great. I noted at YouTube, but didn't view, a trailer for a documentary about her; I'm guessing it is what you saw. How was it?

Feb 27, 12:55am Top

Happy new thread, Shelley. You'll be an old pro at setting up threads by the time you get to the next one!

Feb 27, 6:44am Top

Happy new thread, Shelley!

Feb 27, 7:52am Top

>9 weird_O: - Hi Bill. I did see the doc about Sally Mann yesterday. I did not really know anything about her before, prior to seeing the previews recently. She is, in and of herself, a fascinating woman and a very talented one. I absolutely loved her use of vintage cameras, those huge things that look like accordions on the front, and the glass plate negative. I can understand how her early photos of her children in the nude could be interpreted as porn, by some people but most (that were shown in the film) were actually lovely. I liked learning about her early life, her family, and her husband and kids. I have to say, though, that I was totally unprepared for - and rather shocked by - the body of work that the film gets its name from: *What Remains*. It refers to an exhibit she did that was comprised of photos she took at a forensic farm, a term I had never heard before. In the film, we follow Mann to this place, where bodies - yes, human bodies! - are left out in the open air, for the purpose of studying decomposition. She talked about how she was fascinated by death and how she found beauty in this place. When I got home, I had to google it. I can understand the need for this; Wikipedia explains it this way: "The aim is to gain a better understanding of the decomposition process, permitting the development of techniques for extracting information such as the timing and circumstances of death from human remains."

I get it. But honestly, maybe I'm just a wimp but I found it disturbing to actually see it. And frankly, I was a bit surprised that SHE was surprised that the exhibit was not well-received. I mean, really. Are these photos that people are going to buy to put on their walls? I hadn't realized how affected by this I was but I am still thinking about it. I had to google after I got home, to see what else I could learn about her. I forget the year this doc was made, but I think it was a few years ago. I was sad to learn that her son committed suicide just last year. I also wanted to see if there was any update on her husband, who had a rare form of muscular dystrophy (which she also chronicled in photos over a number of years). I think he is still alive.

I will check out the links you posted on Joe's thread. Thanks for those. I'd be interested to hear your impressions after you see this one.

Feb 27, 7:53am Top

>10 Familyhistorian:, >11 scaifea: - Hi Meg, Hi Amber! You're optimistic, Meg, but thanks! :-)

Feb 27, 8:14am Top

Good morning, Shelley! Congratulations on thread #2.

Feb 27, 8:22am Top

Hi Karen, thanks! It's going to be sunny and warmish here today but I have 2 days left in the month to finish the 3 books I want so it will be a tug of war, getting the reading in and the pull of the sun, outside...

Feb 27, 9:16am Top

Happy new thread, Shelley, you managed to transfer the tickers I see :-)

Feb 27, 9:22am Top

>12 jessibud2: The knowledge of body farms is more widespread now after all the CSI type shows. I remember there was one episode in the original series where Grissom went to a body farm. Of course, they were always showing glimpses of that kind of stuff, fascinating if seen in small doses.

Feb 27, 9:22am Top

>16 FAMeulstee: - Hi Anita. Yes, miracle of miracles! ;-)

Feb 27, 9:27am Top

>17 Familyhistorian: - Well, Meg, that could explain my reaction. I rarely watch tv at all and never the shows of the CSI variety. I had no idea! I just have zero tolerance for anything with violence or blood and gore, which eliminates a huge chunk of what's out there, and passes for entertainment, I know. Same goes for movies. When reading about such stuff, I can always skim over the worst of it, if necessary. I have no need or desire to see it with my eyes. Yep, I prefer my blinders and cocoon life, thanks....birds, books, nature, that's enough for me..... ;-)

Feb 27, 10:04am Top

Happy new thread!

Feb 27, 11:09am Top

>2 jessibud2: & >4 jessibud2: Yippeee! Hope my little bit helped. xx

Feb 27, 12:06pm Top

>20 drneutron: - Thanks, Jim!
>21 PaulCranswick: - Yep, it sure did! Where would I be without my knowledgeable pals? :-) Thanks again

Feb 27, 12:33pm Top

I knew you could do it! Isn't this community the best?

Feb 27, 3:58pm Top

Hi Shelley, happy new thread my dear, hope you are having a good day.

Feb 27, 7:03pm Top

Happy second thread, Shelley.

Feb 27, 9:44pm Top

Thanks, Linda, John and Beth. It only took me 2 + years to get to a second thread, lol! Can a third be far off....

Feb 27, 9:45pm Top

I finished a great audiobook tonight but will write up a review tomorrow. It was called The Housemaid's Daughter by Barbara Mutch and was 13 discs long, 2 narrators, both excellent. Details to follow.

Feb 27, 11:11pm Top

Happy 2nd thread!! Whoohooo!

Feb 28, 7:35am Top

Hi Kim, thanks for that! :-)

Feb 28, 7:38am Top

WHOA!!!! This is today's contribution for the quote of the day from the AWAD (A Word A Day) newsletter:

We have abundant reason to rejoice, that, in this land, the light of truth and reason has triumphed over the power of bigotry and superstition, and that every person may here worship God according to the dictates of his own heart. In this enlightened age, and in this land of equal liberty, it is our boast, that a man's religious tenets will not forfeit the protection of the laws, nor deprive him of the right of attaining and holding the highest offices that are known in the United States. -George Washington, 1st US president, general (1732-1799)

Someone, send this to dictator-in-chief immediately. He has clearly forgotten (or never knew) the basic tenets of his founding fathers

Feb 28, 11:50am Top

The Housemaid's Daughter by Barbara Mutch.

I finished this audiobook last night and really liked it. The 2 narrators were excellent.

It is the story of two women in pre- and post-apartheid South Africa, and though the main character, Ada, is the voice of most of the novel, her Irish madame's voice is heard mostly though her journal entries. I don't remember any specific dates being mentioned but the time spans decades, from the time Ada is young through to near the end of her life. The story, told in the first person, really gives voice to what life was like in South Africa at that time, life in the townships, the struggles and indignities, and the stark contrasts between the two worlds. Real historic figures come into play, briefly, in so far as they are mentioned to set the time (Steve Biko, Nelson Mandela), but the story is one woman's story, told in her words and through her own experience.

A recurrent theme throughout is how music heals, even in the worst of times and situations, and how love and education can be a door out of hell but can only go so far, when too much of destiny is not in one's control.

I found this to be a gripping story and I think the narration, in the accents of the 2 narrators, made it all the more so.

Feb 28, 3:18pm Top

This is just awful, disgraceful, really:


So, apparently, it isn't just the *targeted* countries. Now everyone is suspect. Has trump personally trained these border bozos? Sure sounds like it.

Confession time: I had planned to go to Vermont this summer to visit my brother, who lives there. Not happening. I have absolutely nothing to hide, no reason to be worried. But then, I suspect that most others don't, either. I love Vermont. I love visiting the USA. My last 2 road trips were there. But I think I will wait for trump to be dumped and sanity to return. Canada has plenty to offer in the meantime.

This makes me both mad and sad.


Feb 28, 4:51pm Top

>32 jessibud2: It makes me mad and sad too, Shelley. And embarrassed and humiliated.

Edited: Feb 28, 6:00pm Top

No reason for you to, Linda. (unless you voted for trump). But it's just so damn frustrating. Every day, it seems, brings another blow.

And believe me, we here in Canada are not immune, and are smug at our own risk. Our own Conservative party is presently in the midst of looking for a new leader. 2 of the front-runners are people I see as trump-wannabees. Kelly Leitch and Kevin O'Leary. Fingers crossed, please, that they don't succeed!! If our government should turn in that direction, there will truly be nowhere left to run to...

Feb 28, 5:24pm Top

>34 jessibud2: I certainly didn't vote for the Current Occupant, but I don't think we can take pride in our country when things are going well if we don't also take responsibility for the crap that goes down. I wish you luck up there, because obviously it can happen anywhere.

Edited: Mar 1, 9:36am Top

>35 laytonwoman3rd: - Oh goodness, I certainly hope it didn't come across as if I thought you did! No, no, no! I just hate that anyone should feel responsible for his (trump's) actions, when he alone is responsible. I suppose those who did vote for him deserve what they get but truly, I don't think anyone deserves trump. Actions have consequences and I don't think he understands that. Or cares

Feb 28, 7:32pm Top

Muhammad Ali's son was detained at an airport recently. I don't understand; if you cannot legally discriminate on the basis of religion, how you can ask people their religion when they return to the US? Unless they are already on some watch list for suspected terrorist activity, in which case it would seem the authorities have bigger things to worry about and the religion thing is mute. And those target lists may get a whole lot bigger now without any validity behind them. Grrrr.

Feb 28, 8:42pm Top

And did you read the article I linked to, in >32 jessibud2:? I mean Mem Fox, for crying out loud! THAT is what I mean, about everyone being suspect. For no reason, other than *because I can*. It makes me want to punch something. But that might land me on death row, for all I know.

shakes head in bewilderment....

Mar 1, 8:51am Top

Hi Shelley!

I'd boycott the US too if I wasn't already here as a cringing and writhing native. It's all so painful.

Mar 1, 9:45am Top

>39 karenmarie: - Hi Karen. Yes, I know. It's such a troublesome situation and it just feels as if the ring is widening. Another book friend (from bookcrossing) was also mentioning how she had been detained and questioned for hours when trying to enter the US (she is Australian). All her papers were in order, everything was legal and above board, she had a letter from her workplace stating the length of her leave and none of it mattered to the extremely rude border guards. Until she produced a letter from the organization she was coming to receive some award from. Suddenly, their attitude changed and that was the only thing that seemed to matter. I mean, HUH? My take on this is that trump has seemed to give permission to awful behaviour, seems to legitimize nastiness and intimidation and worse. And that, to me, is the tip of the iceberg. Where does it all lead and once that genie is out of the bottle, even if he wanted to turn it around (and I'm sure he doesn't), it already seems bigger than him and I doubt he could reverse that trend. What ever happened to common courtesy, common decency?

Mar 1, 1:17pm Top

That is very sad.
And the list is getting longer: a French holocaust historian, Henry Rousso, was "mistakenly detained" and nearly deported :'(
I so hope our elections in two weeks don't go in that direction...

Mar 1, 5:44pm Top

Edited: Mar 1, 6:17pm Top

>32 jessibud2: My husband and I are not planning to cross the US border until such time as the US is rid of Trump. Even though I am born and raised in Canada, as is my husband, and we've got to hide, the current administration Trump is to crazy for me enter the USA.

>34 jessibud2: Kevin O'Leary and Kelly Leitch! I feel relatively confident that they will go nowhere, but you never know. It seems to me that there has been an uptick in " hate crime" or things of that nature even here in Canada. It's like Trump emboldens the " alt -right" even in Canada. I made a donation to the Liberal Party , and also to the Emerson Border issue as a way of trying to offset the Kevin O'Leary and Kelly Leitch, however useless that might be.

Mar 1, 6:55pm Top

>43 vancouverdeb: - Same here, Deb. And you are absolutely right about the uptick in hate crimes. Just today, part of Concordia University in Montreal was evacuated due to a bomb threat, and in Toronto, a classroom at York University (where I went and graduated from) had swastikas and a hate message on the walls of that room. There have been 3 fires in mosques or Islamic Centres in the greater Toronto area in recent weeks, as well. I just feel nervous in general lately and despite the logical thought that it's *unlikely* to happen to me, nothing is logical anymore, as far as I can tell. As for Kelly Leitch and Kevin O'Leary, don't be fooled. Yes, 14 candidates for that party's leadership campaign is far too many and I agree that having that many on the stage for a so-called debate the other night was ridiculous. But no one thought trump would get anywhere, either. Just keep that in mind. That's what I find so scary

Edited: Mar 2, 7:26am Top

>37 Berly: - I just happened upon this link, about the Ali episode: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/26/muhammad-ali-jr-trump-travel-ban-muslims-border-agents. There are 10 necessary tips for US Muslim travelers mentioned that probably apply to most citizens, even those who are not Muslim:

The situation is just beginning, I fear.

Mar 2, 10:44am Top

I am utterly heartbroken, frustrated, infuriated and perplexed by the immigration policies of this administration. That last article you posted at >45 jessibud2: had some excellent tips. If you are a US citizen they HAVE to take you. Otherwise, where would you be deported to?

Of course, it is a Muslim ban. Why are US citizens with Muslim names being targeted otherwise? Why are they being asked about their religious beliefs?


Mar 2, 11:07am Top

So, you are not coming to my April Meet Up? We could smuggle you in?

Mar 2, 11:25am Top

If you move it to my side of the border, I'm in! ;-)

Mar 2, 11:37am Top

Lol. We could hide you in a bookmobile. They would never look in there.

Mar 2, 11:41am Top

Ha! You are right. trump's cronies (like himself) probably wouldn't recognize a book if they tripped over it. On the other hand, if they don't know what it is, they might consider it suspicious.... Maybe I could fly over the border in a drone.... maybe they'd think it's one of theirs... ;-p

Mar 4, 8:13am Top

Explorers House by Robert M. Poole

I have always been a fan of National Geographic. One of the very first things I did with part of my first paycheck, from my very first full-time job, was take out a subscription to the NG magazine which I kept up for several years. The iconic yellow border was always, in my mind, a symbol of high quality photojournalism. And of course, it helped launch the career of Jane Goodall, one of my heroes, among many others.

I found this book to be a fascinating history of the Society and I learned so much that I never knew and never imagined, including some things I wish I hadn't known. I love that at the very beginning of the book, there is a family tree map that shows how the three families (Hubbard, Bell, and Grosvenor) came together to create this organization and how the direct line of this family-run, non-profit organization remained true for 5 generations, over 100 years.

I never knew that Alexander Graham Bell was even involved in the NGS, let alone a one-time president of it! I was somewhat shocked to find out just how close the ties were between the NGS and the government(s) of the early part of the twentieth century. "So many bylines from so many bureaucrats and military officials appeared in the magazine that it sometimes seemed like an extension of the government". National Geographic cooperated and participated with the CIA and FBI, and supplied maps to the armed forces during both World Wars and several other wars, as well.

Worst of all, in my eyes, however, was the overt racism and bigotry that was evident in the early part of the 1900s among the top echelon of the NGS. Membership into the Society was restricted and denied to Blacks, there was blatant anti-Semitism and the elder Grosvenor was a Nazi sympathizer. There are even some passages quoting contributors to the magazine in those early days whose words ring in my ears today, and sound frighteningly like the current Washington administration. I find that terrifying.

This was a fascinating read, on many levels, even if it was not always a comfortable one.

Mar 4, 10:52am Top

>51 jessibud2: Interesting review of Explorers House, Shelley. I didn't know that Jane Goodall got her start through National Geographic nor did I have knowledge of any real background to the organization.

I wouldn't dwell too much on the overt racism of the early 1900s. It was a product of its times. At that time it was very much an "us and them" society. Any one other was "them". I ran into that same ideation in Road to the Isles: Travellers in the Hebrides 1770-1914. There the prejudice was against the native population, the same Gaels who are the ancestors of many of the current main stream population of Canada and the US.

Edited: Mar 4, 11:13am Top

>52 Familyhistorian: - Yes, I realize that, Meg, of course. But I was still somewhat shocked to read this quote: "Racism remained a fact of life in the National Geographic's upper echelon from one regime to the next, remaining that way until a new generation of leaders began to assert their control in the 1970s." That's a long time!!

And yes, re Jane Goodall. The NG, from early days, always looked to help fund, sponsor and promote explorers; that was part of their mandate, and many well-known names got their earliest boosts from the NG: Goodall, Mary and Louis Leakey, Jacques Cousteau, Frederick Peary (and the entire Cook-Peary controversy about who reached the North Pole first; the NG sided with Peary and stuck to their guns, despite so much inconclusive evidence), Bob Ballard and more. I wish I had made more notes throughout the reading so I could reference more facts but I didn't.

Mar 4, 12:16pm Top

>51 jessibud2: Excellent review! I love the photos in NG and got the magazine for years and years. Now I have the online version.

Mar 4, 4:26pm Top

Hi Shelley, hope you are having a nice weekend my dear and send love and hugs.

Mar 4, 4:49pm Top

I'm in love with the idea of smuggling you into the country in a bookmobile!

I've thumbed your review of the NG book. Nicely done!

Edited: Mar 5, 6:42pm Top

I love this! : https://www.thestar.com/entertainment/books/2017/03/05/word-under-the-street.html

Reminds me of my own 1984 story. Have I told it here before? I recently posted it on Madeline's thread.

Here it is, as it is quite apropos, to this article:

re 1984: I read it in December of 1983, deciding I had to read it before we actually got there. I was on the subway, reading, and looked up to check for my stop. There was a guy sitting directly opposite me, and our eyes met as I looked up. He had a book in his hands. As readers do, we both instinctively looked at each other's books. He asked me what page I was on. He, too, was reading 1984! I never saw him again but that is a memory that will always be associated for me with that book.

Mar 5, 6:36pm Top

Oh, I love to spy on what people are reading on the DC Metro. Worst thing about ereaders is that it's really hard to do that. :)

Mar 5, 6:46pm Top

>58 drneutron: - So true! So, another justification (for me, the old luddite) to stick with my paper books and not cross over to the dark side, lol!

Mar 5, 6:56pm Top

Happy Sunday, Shelley! Hope you had a nice weekend and got in plenty of reading.

Mar 5, 7:35pm Top

Mar 5, 10:43pm Top

Happy Second Thread, Shelley!

>57 jessibud2: That is a delightful story. I like "as readers do, we both instinctively looked at each other's books." So true. Sometimes I try to see what someone on the train or bus is reading and I worry that they'll think I'm just being nosey. And I guess I am being nosy but I always want to say "hey, I'm a book-lover. I just need to know what you're reading!"

Mar 6, 6:53am Top

>57 jessibud2: Oh, I LOVE that story! Very cool.

Mar 6, 7:06am Top

>60 msf59: - Hi Mark. I had a pretty decent weekend. Finished one book, and an audiobook, and started another of each. Yours sounded great! Hope you have a good week.

>62 EBT1002:, >63 scaifea: - Good morning, Ellen and Amber. That was such a fun article. I wish they had spotlighted more than just the few they did. I ride the subway here fairly frequently as I refuse to drive my car downtown (parking is either impossible or outrageously expensive) and I ALWAYS look at what people are reading on the subway.

Mar 6, 7:52am Top

Thought for the day, from my AWAD newsletter:

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me-- and there was no one left to speak for me.
-Martin Niemoller, pastor, initial supporter of Hitler, concentration camp survivor (1892 - 6 Mar 1984)

Mar 6, 7:52am Top

Another book-snooper here. I'm sure, if the person is a proper reader, they would understand :).

Mar 6, 8:02am Top

>66 lunacat: - Of course they would! ;-)

Mar 6, 8:26am Top

>65 jessibud2: Very honest quotation, Shelley. In a time of fear that sort of enforced silence is pervasive isn't it? I would have liked to have thought that as a left-leaning man who believes every man and woman is born equal I would have had the courage to have spoken out against tyranny such as Hitlers. I fear though that I would not have been brave enough. We always have the mentality that on our own we cannot make a difference - it is the coming together in numbers that can do that.

Mar 6, 9:56am Top

>31 jessibud2: The Housemaid's Daughter sounds really good, Shelley.

The Mem Fox incident is indeed shameful. I hope tourists stay away. The only way some people will speak out is if their finances are affected.

Edited: Mar 6, 11:03am Top

>69 BLBera: - That book was really good and I think listening to it, in the voice and accent of the protagonist made it all the more so. I am also eager to listen to the much lauded new book Born a Crime by Trevor Noah, as his story seems like it might be a modern version of the Barbara Mutch one, told with humour, I am guessing. I am on a wait list at the library for it.

Mar 6, 10:46am Top

Hi Shelley! Happy Monday and I hope you have a lovely week.

>65 jessibud2: It's getting crazier and crazier, and Trump's craziness is getting more and more apparent. I'm in a bit of limbo what with my Mom's stuff to still settle, but after that I'm going to start getting more involved! And I do think I'll go to my Democratic precinct meeting tomorrow night. Haven't gone in about 10 years, and I do think now's the time.

Mar 6, 11:04am Top

Hi Karen. Yes, the old adage *we live in interesting times* has never seemed so appropriate. But you are right, now is certainly the time for involvement.

Mar 6, 11:28am Top

>65 jessibud2: I have seen that powerful quote attributed to other people (mostly on Facebook, of course), but I think it's even more powerful when you know who actually said it.

Mar 6, 11:55am Top

>73 laytonwoman3rd: - Exactly, Linda. There is another quote that came to my mind when I read this one but I have sent an email to a friend asking who the author of it was because I can't remember. Once I have the answer, I will post it, too, because it ties in well with this one.

Edited: Mar 6, 12:51pm Top

Ok, I need to test a theory and I need the help of my LT friends. Those who have cats, that is. A friend just told me something I never knew. She mentioned that cats' noses match their colouring. If a cat is black, its nose will be black, if he is orange, then the nose is orange and if it is multi coloured, its nose will be a mix. I have had cats for most of my adult life and I never knew this, certainly never noticed. So, I just went to check. My Lexi is mostly a black and orange tortie, mostly black though. Her nose is pure black. Mia, on the other hand (the cutie in my avatar pic) is a calico, mostly black and orange but has white paws. Her nose is orange.

I wonder if this is really true or just a coincidence, maybe a folk myth. But for my two, so far, it seems right.

Could those of you with cats please check your cats and report back to me, to test this theory. Thank you.


Edited: Mar 6, 1:01pm Top

I have a cat right here on my lap, so it's easy to check. Molly is mostly white, but with lots of black markings. Her nose is pale pink, with very little white hair over it. I have a friend you has a cat very similarly marked, with more black on the face, and that cat's nose is definitely black.

This is Molly

This is Fred

This would seem to dispute the theory, wouldn't it?

Mar 6, 1:03pm Top

Update? ...
First, they came for the Muslims, and I did not speak out - Because I was not a Muslim.
Then they came for the Immigrants, and I did not speak out - Because I was not a recent Immigrant.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, the Jews, and the Women and I did not speak out because they were not me.
Then they came for me - and there was no one who dared to speak out for me.

Edited: Mar 6, 1:19pm Top

Umm.....definitely not a true theory. We have one grey and black tabby with a pink nose and one with a black nose. And a ginger with a pink nose (although it is always filthy....I've never known a cat care so little for his own cleanliness).

We also have a black with a black nose and a grey with a grey nose which obviously fit, but 3/5 don't.

Edited: Mar 12, 8:15pm Top

>76 laytonwoman3rd: - Linda, those cats are so cute! Molly looks like she has bangs! And Fred's markings are very debonaire!

So, >78 lunacat:, I guess that settles it. I will ask my friend where she got that myth from. On the one hand, it would have been cool if it was true but I guess there is just too much colour variation in fur for one small nose to follow suit!

Edited: Mar 7, 8:36am Top

>77 m.belljackson: - Sigh. Well done. I guess (am hoping) it's up to us all to see that this doesn't happen. *THEY* are really all of US, in truth, though many just never see it that way

Mar 7, 8:36am Top

I could NEVER be a journalist. I would be bald from tearing my hair out, within a week

BBC doc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Kl3bOeZoUc

Edited: Mar 7, 8:58am Top

Kitty William is a brown mackerel tabby with a ridge of black on the top of his nose but it's mostly pink. Inara Starbuck is a calico, and her nose is pink. I think mine disprove the theory, too.

Sorry, Shelley!

And I got through about half that youtube video before feeling my blood pressure rise.

Mar 7, 9:07am Top

Thanks, Karen. My friend had been doing research (her own, not for anything else) on colouration in cats. I guess she came across something that indicated the nose thing. I told her of my own *informal* survey here and suggested that she not believe everything she reads! lol

Edited: Mar 7, 3:15pm Top

Open Heart by Elie Wiesel. Wiesel was a survivor of Auschwitz, a novelist, journalist, teacher and winner of the Nobel Peace Prize. He died last year and though it has been many, many years since I read his work, I decided to pick up this very slim volume for the March selection of the non-fiction challenge. This month's theme is heroes and villains and he definitely falls into the Hero category, in my eyes.

This book was written shortly after his open heart bypass surgery in 2011 and in it, he once again confronts his own mortality and many of the big questions of life that he has been thinking and writing and teaching about all his life. This time, though, he is 82 years old and the perspective has changed. While I have always admired his humanity and his ability to have gratitude and optimism in the face of a world that seems to challenge the very meanings of those concepts, I still have a very difficult time with the *God* aspect of it all. I cannot understand how he can continue to be such a devoutly believing person, in spite of his own personal experiences and evidence all around in this world we live in to the contrary. Yet, I had a sense that he knows there are no answers to his questions, but he is compelled to continue to ask. There were a few passages that I marked as a valiant attempt to perhaps explain to a non-believer such as myself and the words are, as expected from a man such as Wiesel, eloquent:

"I know - I speak from experience - that even in darkness it is possible to create light and encourage compassion. That it is possible to feel free inside a prison. That even in exile, friendship exists and can become an anchor. That one instant before dying, man is still immortal.

"There it is: I still believe in man in spite of man. I believe in language even though it has been wounded, deformed and perverted by the enemies of mankind. And I continue to cling to words because it is up to us to transform them into instruments of comprehension rather than contempt. It is up to us to choose whether we wish to use them to curse or to heal, to wound or to console.

"As a Jew, I believe in the coming of the Messiah. But of course this does not mean that the world will become Jewish; just that it will become more welcoming, more human. I belong, after all, to a generation that has learned that whatever the question, indifference and resignation are not the answer."

That last line rings especially true in my ears these days! And though I doubt I personally can ever be a believer, the last line of this book are words that could be a life lesson for many, and truly needed in the new world of 2017: "I know that eternities ago, the day after the liberation, when some of us had to choose between anger and gratitude, my choice was the right one."

This is why Elie Wiesel is a hero, in my eyes. My next book for this challenge is another book about Mandela.

Edited: Mar 7, 11:04am Top

Morning Shelley! Good review of Open Heart. Thumb. I had not heard of that one.

No comments on the cat question. We are dog folk.

Mar 7, 11:08am Top

>85 msf59: - I was a dog person growing up. I still miss my boy! But when I moved to Toronto and began going to university and working, I couldn't bear to have a dog and never be home enough for him. So I reluctantly converted to cats. Couldn't bear not having an animal in my life. I have to say, I've been a cat lady ever since (not crazy, 2 is my limit). Besides, even though I am retired, the truth is, I don't like to go out and walk in lousy weather and if I had a dog, of course I'd have to. Practically all my friends have dogs and are still on my case to get one. But, I don't think so...


Mar 7, 4:57pm Top

I personally have had more pink nosed cats than black nosed and their coats have been various colours.

Mar 7, 5:35pm Top

Shelley, as to the new furnace issue , we have to replace ours this summer, we are stuck going through the roof. The reason is that our laundry/ furnace / gas water heater room is at the front of our townhouse . So it can't be vented out and forward, or from the ground. Where I live we are about 1 or 2 feet above sea level, so no one has actual below grade basement, just a downstairs and upstairs.So we can't vent upwards other than through the upstairs and attic and through the roof. We can't vent forwards because of the city requirements for the venting to a quite a few feet from out from our dwelling and a certain amount of rise of the piping every 5 or 6 inches. So the configuration of our townhouse is such that yes, we have to through the roof. If we were a end unit , then we could vent through the side, as a couple of our neighbours have done. We'll be the first people to go through the roof, but the strata council realizes that having a furnace is not an optional thing! :)

Mar 7, 6:33pm Top

>Thanks, Meg. I think I've set my friend straight on her *research*... ;-) It's interesting, though, isn't it. Most dogs I have observed have black noses though a few I've seen who are light coloured have pink noses. There seems to be more variety in cats.

Whatever, ;-)

Mar 7, 6:38pm Top

>88 vancouverdeb: - Interesting, Deb. There are so many different configurations for townhouses, even here. Ours are multi-levels. From the outside, it looks like a standard 2-level but mine actually has 5 levels! When you walk in the front door, you walk down 7 steps to a basement or up 6 steps to the living room. Then, 7 more steps up is the kitchen/dining area, then up 6 more steps to nothing but a landing then up 7 more to the bedrooms and bathroom. I nearly died when I moved in and thought, oh my, what have I done. I could barely go up from the front door to the top with out stopping to catch my breath. Now, it's no big deal. You'd think I'd be skinny with all those stairs but not really...;-)

Mar 7, 7:00pm Top

I am very excited. I just got my evite to a book launch that will be happening here in a few weeks. The author is a friend of a friend of mine and the book looks to be very interesting. It's called Newsgirls (no touchstone yet, probably because it hasn't been officially released, I'm guessing).

Here is the synopsis:

Exciting and untold truths about Canadian newsrooms are revealed in the exuberant and charismatic portraits of newswomen from the 1920s to the 1960s, painted by Donna Jean MacKinnon in her debut book, NEWSGIRLS: Gutsy Pioneers in Canada's Newsrooms.

MacKinnon brings to life the stories told by "newshens" such as June Callwood, Simma Holt, Kay Kritzwiser, Dusty Vineberg and many more. With a martini in one hand and a pen and paper in the other, these women dominate the male-run newsrooms of Canada's past.

Their stories tell us how women working in the pre-feminist era would knock-down female stereotypes just as well as they could knock-back a few hard drinks, after a long day of work. Readers will catch a glimpse of a bygone era of the Canadian press, along with cameos of the larger-than-life men who ran the Canadian newsrooms.

Some of these Newsgirls are always in the public eye, pictured among those such as Pierre Trudeau, but most of their stories have never been heard before this book. Today, newspapers trash their old archives and the groundbreakers of Canadian journalism fade from memory. This March, after over 20 years of interviews, Donna Jean Mackinnon will keep the memory of Canada’s founding ladies of the press alive.


This looks to be a nice affair. One free drink ticket per person, and free food, book for sale and at a lovely venue. I am looking forward to it. I don't get to many events like this!

I'll report back after the fact.

Mar 8, 6:52am Top

Morning, Shelley!

Congrats on the book launch invitation - sounds like it'll be a hoot!

Edited: Mar 8, 11:04am Top

Hi Amber! I will report on it after the fact. It's on Wed, March 29, 3 weeks from today

Mar 8, 11:03am Top

In honour of International Women's Day, I want to post here a link to a wonderful interview I listened to this morning with the Nigerian American author Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie. I have not read her work yet but would love to read her newest book, How to Raise a Feminist, as well as her previous works. I also plan to google and watch her TED talk, which is extremely popular. I always seem late to the game in learning about authors but this interview was so engaging, so I think I am hooked now!


Mar 8, 6:49pm Top

Amazing , Shelley, that your townhouse has 5 levels! So interesting! As you say , so many configuration for town houses. We just have the two levels, but three is not uncommon here. I checked out stairs and we have 21 steps from downstairs to the upstairs. Congratulations on the evite!

Mar 10, 6:18am Top

Hi Shelley!

>86 jessibud2: You know that the definition of a crazy cat lady is someone who has one more cat than you do, right?

How exciting! I've never been to a book launch and will be interested in hearing how it goes.

Mar 10, 7:42am Top

>96 karenmarie: - LOL! Karen! If truth be told, I'd have more than just 2, in a heartbeat. I go look at the adoption centre in PetSmart every time I go in there, even though I KNOW I can't bring any more home. I have (mild) asthma and having just the two has always been fine but I do think that any more than that would not be so fine. I've been lucky that my cats have always been healthy and lived long. My previous 2 (Jessie and Buddy, of screen name fame) lived to 17 and 18 years, respectively. My current two are now 17 and 16 years old and still going strong.

I've not been to a book launch either. Very much looking forward to it and will definitely report back!

Mar 10, 11:11am Top

Happy Friday, Shelley! Hooray for a book launch.

I am enjoying Birds Art Life.

Have a great weekend.

Mar 10, 1:19pm Top

>98 msf59: - Ooo, great! I can't wait to hear your report on it. I am on a wait list for it from the library.

Happy Friday to you, too, Mark

Mar 11, 4:35pm Top

Hi Shelley! The book launch sounds like a great event; I am sure you will enjoy it! And I love the sound of your townhouse with all the different floors. Fun and different. And good for keeping shape. LOL Happy weekend!

Mar 11, 11:15pm Top

>84 jessibud2: I agree entirely Shelley. Wiesel was indeed a hero. He won a Nobel prize but ought to have two.

Just realised that trump's VP is Mike Pence and that means Donald and Mickey! Cartoon characters in a graphic novel Presidency.

Now we have donald and Mickey
And I wouldn't mind seeing Melania in a mini.

Have a great weekend.

Mar 12, 8:35am Top

>101 PaulCranswick: Hi Paul. A cartoon presidency! LOL! You might be the first to have picked up on this. Pity what's going on isn't all that funny... I personally prefer the real Donald and Mickey the Disney ones)

And Melania is noticeably absent. We know she is in NY so her son can finish school but I haven't seen any mention of her at all. Yet the First Daughter seems to be everywhere..... interesting

Edited: Mar 12, 8:44am Top

^Morning, Shelley! We could all use a bit of color about now. I will wrap up Birds Art Life early today. Many quotes I plan on sharing.

Edited: Mar 12, 8:57am Top

>103 msf59: - Hi Mark. I just left a note on your previous thread (not the new one). So far today and yesterday (I note this because I participate in the *citizen science* project called Feeder Watch and note and report what comes to the feeder every weekend), I have seen chickadees, goldfinches, juncos, the usual sparrows and for the first time this season, the sweet house finches are back. Yesterday, I saw 6 robins standing together (but not at my feeder). I don't think I've ever seen that many all together! And yes, a lovely cardinal has been around lately too. A cardinal couple used to come to my yard every day but they have been scarce this year.

Can't wait to hear your report of Birds, Art Life! I am on the wait list at the library for it.

Mar 12, 11:10am Top

Happy Sunday, Shelley!

Mar 12, 11:29am Top

I have had two very fat ( maybe pregnant) robins hovering around my porch- I have a flowering plant that has seeds on it year round near the steps.

Edited: Mar 12, 2:41pm Top

Hi Cyrel. I would think it would be too early for chicks! Oh dear, with the weather we are expecting, I sure hope not! But, in case you get the chance to watch babies, near your porch, this is a delightful little video. Have you ever seen it?

4 robins, 4 weeks :-)


(turn up your speakers...and wait for it: Louis Armstrong!)

Edited: Mar 12, 1:36pm Top

In the last few days I have read 3 books of the *lighter fare* genre. 2 were audiobooks by an admittedly favourite author of mine, Elizabeth Berg and while they were enjoyable, I'd have to say they were not her best. One was called A Tapestry of Fortunes and the last one was The Last Time I Saw You. I have read many of her books and these two were definitely not among her better ones.

Then I read a book that had been on my shelf for years, called Mother Goose in Prose by none other than L. Frank Baum, the author of the Wizard of Oz books. Originally written in 1899, it is a sort of back story to a selection of several original Mother Goose nursery rhymes. He imagines the stories behind the rhymes and how they came to be. A bit dated in style by today's standards but still, light fun. Illustrated by Maxfield Parrish.

Now I can get back to more serious stuff! I just started a new audiobook, a Canadian book from a few years ago called The Outlander by Gil Adamson. Not to be mistaken for Diana Gabaldon's Outlander! This one seems more of a murder mystery, not my typical go-to literature but I am trying to read more Canadian books this year, that are already in my house and this is one such book. It had a lot of buzz when it first came out. I actually found this at the library in audio and so far, the narrator seems good so we shall see how it goes.

I also started (last night) and will certainly finish this afternoon the book called I Am Not Your Negro, that is based on the film of the same name which I will likely go see some time this coming week. It is based entirely on the works of James Baldwin and what I like about it is it's a sort of *making of* the film, but the author/ film director tells the back story of how he came to create the film and it is fascinating so far. A short book, I will probably finish it this afternoon.

Mar 12, 1:30pm Top

Hi Shelley!

I'm glad to hear your two kitties are going strong at 17 and 16. My two are 18 and 10.

Nice to get some reading in, even if they were not a favorite author's best efforts. I've found that not best efforts by one author are better than supposedly-wonderful efforts by another author.

Happy birdwatching and Happy Sunday! I'm thrilled that I just saw a Brown Thrasher, sitting on my Crepe Myrtle. I got to observe him for about a minute. And of course as soon as I left to get the binoculars in hopes of getting a close up, he/she left. Now the binoculars are here, next to me, with nobody in the crepe myrtle.

Edited: Mar 12, 5:20pm Top

I Am Not Your Negro text by James Baldwin, compiled for the movie by Raoul Peck.

I mentioned this book on my last thread. I first heard of it when I listened to an excellent interview on CBC radio with the filmmaker, Raoul Peck. I will repost here a bit from my original post:

Synopsis from the imdb site: "In 1979, James Baldwin wrote a letter to his literary agent describing his next project, "Remember This House." The book was to be a revolutionary, personal account of the lives and assassinations of three of his close friends: Medgar Evers, Malcolm X and Martin Luther King, Jr. At the time of Baldwin's death in 1987, he left behind only 30 completed pages of this manuscript. Filmmaker Raoul Peck envisions the book James Baldwin never finished."

Here are a couple of links:

clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNUYdgIyaPM

full interview on Q (the CBC radio program): http://www.cbc.ca/radio/q/friday-feb-24-2017-raoul-peck-reginald-edmund-and-more...

The interview is really worth listening to, by the way.

I am really glad to have read this book before seeing the film. Peck writes an introduction, explaining how and why he came to put this film together, and how he came to have possession of the 30 pages of notes that were the beginning of that final book Baldwin didn't live to complete. The book is barely 100 pages but it packs so much power into it, as much of Baldwin's works did. And it is startling how timely his words still are today, maybe even more so than one would expect. And that is not a good thing...

"Not everything that is faced can be changed; but nothing can be changed until it is faced."

Mar 14, 9:13am Top

I have been cleaning out old emails and found this, that I had saved from a few years ago. Books are educational, of course, but also, so much fun.

Can't do this with a kindle!! ;-)


Of course, I'd hate to be the one to have to reshelve them all.....

Mar 14, 7:29pm Top

>111 jessibud2: Ha! Interesting that one Shelley. I wonder if Hani would let me try something like that with my collection?!

Mar 19, 11:55pm Top

Abby is a tuxedo cat ~~ mostly black with a perfect white shirtfront and four white paws. No white on her tail. Her nose is black but she has a somewhat crooked white milk mustache just underneath that black nose.

My sweet Edgar was a brown tabby -- brown and gray stripes. I think his nose was pink.

Mar 20, 12:10am Top

Stopping by to say hi, Shelley. I read the Outlander by Gil Adamson. It was an unusual but interesting read. I do understand the need for lighter fare at times. I'm PVR'ing CBC's new " Anne of Green Gables " at the moment. I'm not sure if you are a fan, but I loved the books and thought I try out the new series. Here is a trailer from CBC ( scroll down through the article. )http://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/anne-green-gables-1.4028193

Mar 20, 9:35pm Top

>113 EBT1002: - Thanks, Ellen. It was a weird and very non-scientific *survey*, the thing with cat's noses, have to admit. But funny. Your Abby sounds elegant. I think most tuxedo cats are.

>114 vancouverdeb: - Thanks, Deb. I watched the original Anne series when Megan Follows was Anne. I loved it. Not sure I am in the mood these days. I did hear an interview on CBC the other day with the young girl (who is from Ireland, I believe!) who plays Anne in this new series. I finished disc #1 of The Outlander (I think there are 9), and returned it to the library as I had to come to Montreal last Saturday and am still here. My mom is in the hospital at the moment and I am still here now. Long long days right now but I brought 3 books with me and she has a few at home that I can read if I finish mine. I may go back to TO on Thursday this week to keep an appointment to do my taxes on Friday then come back here after the weekend. My mom is 83 and her husband is 81 and to be honest, he is quite useless in the house. She is nowhere near ready to come home yet but I have to make sure that when she is, homecare is in place because he is really in no position to be much help. The man didn't even know how to turn on the dishwasher! I think one of the reasons this is particularly hard on my mom is that she has so seldom been sick in her entire life. She has always had more energy than me, and only in the last few years has she showed signs of slowing down as arthritis in her knees have made her walk more slowly. But now she has pneumonia, and some blood issues and we are just waiting on tests and results to figure out next steps. Sigh. The joys of growing old...

Edited: Mar 21, 12:07am Top

I'm so sorry to hear about your mom, and sorry that her husband is so unhelpful. She very blessed to have you to look after things. What a wonderful daughter she has in you, staying at her side in Montreal. Big hugs to you. I lost my dad to cancer nearly 10 years ago, and I do understand those long days and nights when a parent is ill.

Best wishes to you and your mom on relatively quick recovery and to you getting homecare in place for you.

As for the New Anne, I felt it was quite a bit darker than the real Anne of Green Gables, so you did not miss much. It has me shaking my head, thinking this is not Anne of Green Gables.

Take care of yourself, and best wishes to your mom.

Mar 22, 3:41am Top

I'm sorry to hear about your mother's hospitalization, Shelley. Hopefully her husband can step up to the plate and be of some use, and take some of the burden off of you.

Edited: Mar 22, 10:14am Top

>117 kidzdoc: - Thanks, Darryl. No significant progress yet, still just doing tests to try to rule things out. They think there is an internal bleed somewhere and are still trying to find it. I think what is bugging her most is that they are giving her diuretics to prevent clots while she is in bed and she needs to pee all the time. Getting herself up and off the bed is tiring her out but so far, she is still able to do so on her own steam. The physio will be in today to assess and set up a routine and begin the process of looking toward home care. She's had no fever for 4 days but there are other concerns so we continue to wait. I am going home tomorrow while my brother and SIL come in from Vermont and I will come back here when they go home on Monday.

My mom's hubby is just being a man of his generation, used to having things done for him. I hope I am not being sexist but it's how I see it. He is 81 himself and has his own health issues though nothing of this magnitude and I am grateful that he has been playing chauffeur. Because he has been a volunteer at this hospital for years, he has a parking pass and believe me, in this city and in this weather (still lots of snow) that makes a huge difference that we can easily and always park in the hospital's underground lot.

Mar 22, 9:01am Top

I am sorry to hear about your mother's health issues-I hope that you and your brother can advocate for your mother getting a lot of homecare.

Mar 22, 10:14am Top

Thanks, Cyrel. We have already begun the process. The physio who began working with her this morning is very good and I am impressed with her.

Mar 22, 4:17pm Top

Sorry to read your mom is in hospital, Shelley, I hope she'll be able to go home soon, with all the care needed.

>118 jessibud2: I hope I am not being sexist No not at all, my father is the same, although he has learned a little bit in the last years, it still isn't very much he can do.
BTW >115 jessibud2: I wouldn't know how to turn on a diswasher either, as we don't have one ;-)

Mar 22, 5:43pm Top

Hi Shelley, sorry to read that you mom is not too well and in hospital my dear, I do hope you get all her care needs sorted out and that she will be able to go home soon. It is not easy spending long hours by a loved ones bedside and it is good that she has you there my dear, sending special love and hugs to you dear lady.

Mar 22, 6:51pm Top

Hi, Shelley! It doesn't look like I am going to review Birds, Art Life. This happens sometimes, and it has nothing to do with negative feelings. I really liked the book and I shared a few quotes. It will be a book I will keep on shelf and revisit.

I have a cardinal couple visiting me feeders. If I see the female, I always glance around until I spot that flash of red, somewhere in the background.

Mar 22, 8:27pm Top

>121 FAMeulstee: - Thanks, Anita. In truth, I don't have a dishwasher either but also in truth, it isn't difficult to figure out, if one cares to. Put in the soap, shut the door, push the button. haha. He is just a tiny bit lazy. This evening, I have decided to hold back and see if he can find things on his own, instead of asking him where *I* can find such and such. He is a smart man, just needs the proverbial kick in the pants to get off the chair and do it.

>122 johnsimpson: - Thank you, John. Physiotherapy began today and I am impressed with the physiotherapist. My mom is still extremely weak but trying hard to get stronger. She ate well and was a bit cranky, all good signs, hehe. I am heading home tomorrow and I hope that by the time I return next week, I will see lots of improvement.

>123 msf59: - I love those cardinals, Mark and saw one (a male) in a tree here the other day. Well, even if you didn't review it, I am happy that you enjoyed Birds, Art, Life.

Mar 22, 8:39pm Top

Hi, Shelley. Been a bit of a recluse lately, but I did notice that you identified the sterile brick building with the marvelous painting. The one in the photo I posted at Joe's place. My source had no label or caption, and Googling the image yielded only a list of Pinterest dupes of it. I am glad to know where it is. Thank you.

I was also interested in the comments you posted about the Sally Mann documentary you say. Her memoir is still perambulating around in my head.

Mar 22, 9:06pm Top

125 - Hi Bill. It really is a very cool building, that Flatiron Building. Seeing that tromp l'oeil (sp?) up close is something else. Also, tell me what you thought of the Sally Mann memoir. Did you get to see the doc?

Yesterday, 9:29pm Top

Hoping your Moms physio went well.

Have a relaxing weekend, Shelley. xx

Edited: Yesterday, 10:09pm Top

Hi Shelley.. Just checking in!

I am sorry to hear that your mom had to be hospitalized, but I hope she makes steady improvement and is assigned to good home care workers. I used to be a home health care nurse myself, but that sure seems as if it were in another life! I also hope that her husband finally learns how to turn on a dishwasher. My own husband had problems using the clothes dryer when our first son was born, and I was instructed not to climb stairs. That was a generation ago, though, as this son is now 36 years old. My husband figured out the clothes dryer, but now tries to get out of using it. It's easier for him to leave that for me! :O

My husband just applied for his passport today so we're really coming to Canada! I am so excited!! Of course, I couldn't go to apply for my passport today with him because I had a BookCrossing meetup. Priorities are priorities! Oh, well, I will take care of the passport application process sooner rather than later. :)

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