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Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #76

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1jasbro
Mar 15, 11:37pm Top

THIS THREAD is for LibraryThing Members, and especially for “beginners,” to ask help and learn about combining and separating specific LibraryThing Works.
-- If a book is combined with other, very different books.
-- If a book won’t combine with others just like it.
-- If problems with any Work are overwhelming, or maybe you just don’t have time.

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WHEN YOU POST:
-- Please give Titles, Authors, hyperlinks, and other information that will help.
-- If you post multiple requests at once, please number each group. Examples:

“Please combine:
#1: The Story of the Life of You
http://www.librarything.com/work/AAAAAAAA
http://www.librarything.com/work/BBBBBBBB
#2: The Story of the Life of Everyone Else
http://www.librarything.com/work/XXXXXXXX
http://www.librarything.com/work/YYYYYYYY
http://www.librarything.com/work/ZZZZZZZZ


-- Ask about sets of Works or Series pages, ask for opinions, or ask for help with specific languages, subjects, etc.; but please be brief.
-- Please do not give Search pages, Author pages, or groups of “possibles,” unless you have a specific question.
-- “Someone will be with you shortly.” Most requests are handled by our fellow LibraryThing Members, not by staff.
-- If you add to a post, please use “ETA:” or “EDIT:” to show what’s new.
-- Please note when a request is “DONE.”

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NOTES:
-- If two works have more than 200 records each, LibraryThing staff may need to do the combining. Please post these requests to: http://www.librarything.com/topic/95602 .
-- For information and discussion, but not problems, please see the Combiner’s Group Information, FAQ & Discussion Thread: http://www.librarything.com/topic/57164 .
-- For the related wiki page, please see: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/Book_combining .
-- Please note Tim’s Guidelines for Proper Etiquette for Contacting Members about Book Records at http://www.librarything.com/topic/30795#469616 ; if you contact another Member, please use Private Comment.
-- When this thread reaches 200 posts, please do not post here but start a new Thread. Threads under 200 posts load faster and are easier to navigate. Please copy these notes as post #1 of the new thread. Thank you.

2jasbro
Edited: Mar 15, 11:42pm Top

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3jasbro
Mar 15, 11:42pm Top

Please recall SaintSunniva's request at http://www.librarything.com/topic/239156#5975221, and consider whether you have insight to offer. Thank you!

4SaintSunniva
Mar 15, 11:49pm Top

The author of my four-volume set is Anna Catharina Emmerick. But that name is only listed on her author page in combinations with her editor and journaler. Could someone make it be listed by itself, thank you.

My book, with her name as sole author https://www.librarything.com/work/3755635/book/139813462

Her author page https://www.librarything.com/author/emmerichannecatherin which has 23 variations of her name, but should have one more, per above.

5jasbro
Mar 16, 10:20pm Top

>4 SaintSunniva: Please check it again, and let us know if it's better, worse, or about the same ... Thanks!

7MarthaJeanne
Mar 19, 8:07am Top

>6 bonne1978: Seems to have been done.

8SaintSunniva
Mar 19, 9:33pm Top

re https://www.librarything.com/author/emmerichannecatherin

>5 jasbro: The author name is now included in the list as it should be. Thank you!

>3 jasbro: Her author page is quite a bit better! Thank you!

10MarthaJeanne
Mar 23, 11:59am Top

12Jarandel
Mar 25, 1:09pm Top

13Birlinn
Mar 26, 1:16pm Top

Please separate the authors "Royal Commission on the Ancient and Historical Monuments and Constructions of Scotland" (RCAHMS) and "Royal Commission on the Future of the Toronto Waterfront."

https://www.librarything.com/author/royalcommissiononthe-15
https://www.librarything.com/author/royalcommissiononthe

It appears as though many different independent Royal Commissions were combined into a single one at some point!

Many thanks!

14MarthaJeanne
Edited: Mar 26, 2:19pm Top

>13 Birlinn: The computer can only differentiate a certain number of characters. 'Royal commission on the' is already too long. They can only be divided, not really separated.

Someone had combined the separate page in, so that the aliasing to 'Scotland, Royal Commission of Ancient and Historical Monuments of' was being sent back to the disambiguation page. I've got it sorted now, I think. It was also confusing that there were two splits for the same Commission.

15jjwilson61
Mar 26, 10:36pm Top

It's a misfeature of LT that names that are the same up to some number of characters cannot be separated, they can only be divided in the same way that two authors with the exact same name can be divided.

17Collectorator
Mar 27, 12:11am Top

>16 SaintSunniva: use the workbench

18MarthaJeanne
Mar 27, 2:59am Top

>16 SaintSunniva: Done, and I found more as well.

19SaintSunniva
Mar 27, 8:31pm Top

20raidergirl3
Mar 30, 9:30pm Top

I just added some audiobooks from YA Sync, a free summer audio book program and one needs combining, please.

The Gathering (Shadow House Book 1)
http://www.librarything.com/work/17989405
http://www.librarything.com/work/19358600

thanks to your (the groups) guidance last year, I've learned how to combine some of them but can't seem to figure out this one.
(I used to delete the book if the one I added was the only one, and then I'd pick a different edition to Add. I've learned!)

21Taphophile13
Mar 30, 9:32pm Top

22AnnieMod
Mar 30, 9:36pm Top

>20 raidergirl3:

For future references - there is a new way that makes these very easy. Look at the bottom right menu on a book page. There is a link to add to the workbench (and another to open the workbench). You can add any books to the workbench and then it will allow you to see them on the same page so they can be combined :)

23raidergirl3
Mar 30, 9:40pm Top

>22 AnnieMod: thank you. Last year I learned about editions, maybe I'll learn how to use workbench this year. Not being able to combine that set in 20, I think I understand how the workbench will work.

24AnnieMod
Mar 30, 9:43pm Top

>23 raidergirl3:

It is self-explanatory when you see it :) Try to add ANY two books to the bench - and see how it looks - just do not press "combine" at the end - you can then remove them from the bench easily. And adding them there do not change the books - it is like a sandbox that belongs only to you and allows to bring books on the same page so they can be combined without having to find editions page or an author page :)

25mene
Mar 31, 2:23am Top

In the "Sword Art Online Progressive" series, both the manga and the novel have the same title...
Manga: http://www.librarything.com/work/15860318/book/137329569
Novel: http://www.librarything.com/work/15860318/summary/140217313
They're not the same :)

26SimoneA
Mar 31, 3:58am Top

>25 mene: I have separated the one wrong edition I could identify from the novel and combined it into the manga. I also added a canonical title to the manga to make the distinction clear. Please check if it's better like this.

28MarthaJeanne
Apr 3, 5:55pm Top

29leselotte
Apr 4, 6:22am Top

https://www.librarything.com/author/gatestom

Includes Thomas Gates and Tom Gates. Thomas Gates should be separated, and some works should be aliased, but I can't look this up right now. Anyone with more insight?

Thanks!

30MarthaJeanne
Edited: Apr 4, 7:20am Top

>29 leselotte: https://www.librarything.com/author/gatesthomas-1
https://www.librarything.com/author/gatesdrthomas
https://www.librarything.com/author/gatestom-1

are probably the same person, but I can't verify that. Any Quaker combiners who know how how to check this? He seems to use Tom on at least some publications, and LoC says Tom(1) is Thomas J.

I'm not going further with this.

31leselotte
Apr 4, 7:30am Top

>30 MarthaJeanne: Thanks very much! I think it looks good! I did pick up on the fact that the Quaker one uses both Thomas and Tom, but since I stumbled upon this page doing some combining with Liz Pichon's Tom Gates series, I was pretty sure it couldn't stay that way ...

32MarthaJeanne
Apr 7, 12:21pm Top

http://www.librarything.com/author/1729628519

There are almost certainly combinations to be done here, but it will take someone who reads Arabic. I found some original titles in WorldCat, but just too hard for me to deal with

34MarthaJeanne
Apr 8, 6:16am Top

35Ameise1
Apr 8, 11:48am Top

>34 MarthaJeanne: Thanks so much.

36Herenya
Edited: Apr 17, 2:21am Top

I separated out my abridged and illustrated copy of The Lion, the Witch and the Wardobe from the unabridged work, but the unabridged work includes lots of copies with the abridged work's ISBN (000675368X). Should those be separated out too?

Abridged and illustrated (by Christian Birmingham): https://www.librarything.com/work/19425161/summary/140621980

Unabridged: https://www.librarything.com/work/1182675/work/36078179

37MarthaJeanne
Apr 16, 10:45am Top

I would say yes. According to the description, 0001857010 is also an abridgement.

38jasbro
Apr 16, 5:40pm Top

>36 Herenya:, >37 MarthaJeanne: I agree, abridgments get separated out, and ISBN is a good way to do that. One exception, I think, is where it's apparent (somehow from context or other information) that the "abridged edition" ISBN is ratty data for a record of the unabridged edition - e.g., the Member's title also says "unabridged." Then I wouldn't separate the record for an apparently unabridged volume to combine it with abridged editions, and yes that leaves the rest of LibraryThings with a quantity of ratty data on records we wish were otherwise accurate. Then again, I'm painfully aware that not all my ISBNs are correct for the books on our shelves ...

39Herenya
Apr 17, 2:35am Top

Okay, thanks! I've separated out the abridged ISBNs and then combined them.

>38 jasbro:: Not all of my books have accurate data, either. I suspect some of these people meant to add the unabridged book, but it's hard to tell for sure...

40Maddz
Apr 17, 4:59am Top

I would imagine it's probably to do with people adding books and being presented with a list of possibilities several hundred long and using the first likely match and not subsequently editing your record. It's a problem with older editions, especially ones that pre-date ISBNs, and I know I have that problem in my library from when I first started cataloguing. (At some point I must revisit my early records and clean them up...)

If there was an easy way to be able to pin-point specific editions from the add book list without adding a massive list of parameters to the search box, then hopefully that would help.

41.mau.
Apr 18, 10:59am Top

I would like to combine The magic of numbers and motion : the scientific career of René Descartes with a reissue of its Italian translation Cartesio. La magia dei numeri e del moto. René Descartes e la scienza del Seicento, but I cannot see how to do it.

http://www.librarything.com/work/2533397/editions gives the original version and the first Italian translation, but no Potential work combinations is shown. Where is the catch?

42MarthaJeanne
Edited: Apr 18, 11:30am Top

On the lower right, click on 'add work to workbench'. Once you have done this for both works, it is easy.

You could also do it from the author page.

43.mau.
Apr 19, 4:56am Top

42 > MarthaJeanne

Thanks!

44feldamundo
Edited: Apr 19, 9:34pm Top

EDIT: All done! Thanks!

New one: all of the Dan Gutman "My Weird School Special" books have been combined into one work: https://www.librarything.com/work/14101567/editions
I started to separate them and am hoping someone can assist.
There are multiple books in this series, each tied to a specific holiday, and not to be confused with the author's "My Weird School" or "My Weirder School" series.
Thanks.

46stortemelk
Apr 21, 4:16pm Top

47SaintSunniva
Edited: Apr 22, 4:00pm Top

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48shmjay
Apr 22, 9:02pm Top

I split out the various people named Derek Thompson, but some data got linked to the wrong person.

http://www.librarything.com/author/thompsonderek

The notice of the Derek Thompson (d0r0k) who is a library thing author belongs to 5

http://www.librarything.com/author/thompsonderek-5

The picture in 1

http://www.librarything.com/author/thompsonderek-1

also belongs to 5

I have no idea how to change those.

49amanda4242
Apr 22, 9:14pm Top

>48 shmjay: I've fixed the picture. To set a picture to the correct division, just click on the picture and click on the division number you want the picture to go to.

50MarthaJeanne
Apr 22, 11:44pm Top

>48 shmjay: You have to ask staff to fix the LT author connection. Probably Lorannen.

51prosfilaes
Apr 23, 9:43pm Top

http://www.librarything.com/work/2464022/summary The Norton Anthology of American Literature is a work published in one volume, two volume, and five volume versions, with the five volume versions having much more content than the one volume version. All this has gone through many, many editions and I believe occasionally university-specific editions. Various individual volumes have been combined into the one work, and need separating out. What stopped me in my tracks is that someone else has done this, to some extent, and also separated out various editions, which in theory I don't disagree with, but in practice makes this a work I don't want to touch with a ten foot pole.

(In 2012, dltucker added The Norton Anthology of American Literature, Seventh Edition (1) to this work, so apparently stuff was better split out then.)

52PeterDamianBellis
Apr 25, 10:15pm Top

LT staff has combined two authors, Javier Zabala (http://www.librarything.com/author/zabalajavier) and Javier Pedro Zabala. But these two authors are two separate individuals. Javier Zabala, who is still alive, is an award-winning illustrator living in Spain and the author most recently of Madrid for Children. Javier Pedro Zabala is a Cuban writer who died in 2002 and who is the author of The Mad Patagonian. When I click on Javier Pedro Zabala's link I can no longer copy the link (it is in grayscale). The link originally read: http://www.librarything.com/author/zabalajavierpedro and now reads: http://www.librarything.com/author/zabalajavierpedro&norefer=2

Here is the link to Javier Pedro Zabala's book The Mad Patagonian:http://www.librarything.com/work/19405243

I am Peter Damian Bellis and I am the publisher of River Boat Books. We are publishing The Mad Patagonian by Javier Pedro Zabala; the official release date is August 24, 2017. I entered The Mad Patagonian in our River Boat Books page on Library Thing.

Please can you separate these two Zabala's. They each deserve their own author's page.

53Collectorator
Apr 25, 11:25pm Top

>52 PeterDamianBellis: I already separated those.

54jjwilson61
Apr 26, 11:32am Top

>52 PeterDamianBellis: LT staff has combined two authors

Combining on LT is a collaborative activity and can be done by anyone not just staff.

55leselotte
Apr 26, 12:19pm Top

Please, someone have a look at
https://www.librarything.com/author/bartokmira/names

It includes these entries:
https://www.librarything.com/work/14395963
https://www.librarything.com/work/16869083
https://www.librarything.com/work/18510332

which should be listed with Bartok and Béla Bartok, respectively. Do you think someone manually changed the author? Recalculating didn't seem to help, and I didn't want to change anything else in case it's a bug.

56MarthaJeanne
Apr 26, 12:28pm Top

I took off the canonical name and separated out the author page that had the wrong works in it. Now at https://www.librarything.com/author/bartok where it can be divided and aliased as needed, but I'm out of time.

57omargosh
Apr 26, 12:43pm Top

I finished up with the splitting and aliasing.

58supersidvicious
Edited: May 1, 2:47am Top

59AnnieMod
Apr 26, 3:14pm Top

>58 supersidvicious:

You know about the new workbench, right? So you do not need to add them to the series and ask here to be combined but can combine them easily through it?

60jasbro
Edited: Apr 27, 5:28am Top

>51 prosfilaes: The same holds for The Norton Anthology of English Literature, which *some* of us have begun sorting ... but, yeah, it's a Herculean task, if not Sisyphean ...

61leselotte
Apr 27, 9:10am Top

>56 MarthaJeanne: >57 omargosh: Ah, I missed the canonical name! Thanks to both of you!

62supersidvicious
May 1, 2:48am Top

>59 AnnieMod: errr, no. Great feature, thanks!

63Schmerguls
May 1, 11:32am Top

This site is read by lots of smart people so I wonder if anyone can answer this question of mine: I would like to determine how many of the over 5000 books I have listed on LibraryThing (everyone of which I have read in full) are listed only by me. I know I could peruse my whole list to see which ones are only listed by me, but that would take a long time and I am wondering if there is an easier way to see how many of the books I list are not listed by any other person.

64Taphophile13
Edited: May 1, 11:36am Top

>63 Schmerguls: On your Home page, click Stats/Memes and then click Vous et nul autre in the left hand column. You can find books only you have, books you share with just one other member or just a few others.

65MarthaJeanne
May 1, 12:23pm Top

>63 Schmerguls: You can also sort by Total members.

Of course both of these methods include any books that others have entered but the books haven't been combined, so your actual total may be less than it appears.

66Schmerguls
Edited: May 1, 12:55pm Top

Thank you so much, Taphophile and MarthaJeanne. This is just what I was hoping for--and I am so glad I did not try a more time-consuming way to find books unique to me or nearly so. There are about 150 books which only I list, and about 115 which only I and one other list. Many of the unique to me books do not surprise me but some do. For instance:

3668. But Look, the Morn The Story of a Childhood, by MacKinlay Kantor (read 24 Dec 2002)

I would not have thought I was the only person to list it since it is not too old (hey, 1947--that's not so long ago) and the author is not obscure

67bluepiano
May 3, 6:24pm Top

http://www.librarything.com/author/hendersonmark

These books were written, surely, by at least 3 authors & probably more--?

68AnnieMod
May 3, 7:02pm Top

>62 supersidvicious: You are welcome and have fun :) If something is still giving you a hard time, feel free to drop by again of course but the normal ones (cross-author or authorless for example) should be pretty straightforward :)

69MarthaJeanne
May 3, 7:39pm Top

>67 bluepiano: I suspect that the final two are also different, but not as sure as of the ones I sorted.

71MarthaJeanne
May 5, 11:35am Top

72Ameise1
May 5, 12:08pm Top

Thanks so much. :-)

74MarthaJeanne
May 6, 11:38am Top

>73 LolaWalser: Done. But have a look at the recent workbench feature. It makes these very easy.

75LolaWalser
May 6, 11:42am Top

>74 MarthaJeanne:

Oh, thanks. Where is that?

76MarthaJeanne
May 6, 11:52am Top

Lower right with recalculate cover, recalculate title/author.

77LolaWalser
May 6, 12:03pm Top

Thanks.

78MarthaJeanne
May 11, 1:21pm Top

https://www.librarything.com/author/hohlbeinwolfgang needs a lot of work. I got there by accident, and did a bit, but ability to read German is not really enough. You also need to know the works involved. There seem to be a lot of books republished in collections that are not correctly combined.

79europhile
May 12, 12:12am Top

>78 MarthaJeanne: I've done some work on this, including updating series information. I've probably missed a few combinations in languages other than German though.

81Jarandel
May 13, 12:18pm Top

82Ameise1
May 13, 12:45pm Top

>81 Jarandel: Thanks so much :-)

83MarthaJeanne
Edited: May 19, 5:11pm Top

https://www.librarything.com/work/17765653/details/130106438

Doesn't need combining, needs correction to Amazon data, but the current form doesn't work on my iPad. Author is Henss. Amazon.com shows no author, .de (Germany) shows Henns.

In the meantime, I'm combining the author pages.

ETA, It worked on Amazon.co.uk.

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