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1asburytr
Mar 19, 8:04pm Top

Not meant to be a shot at anyone who collects easton press books (I have some and the served as my gateway drug into other things) but I couldn't help notice the shelves behind a college president accused of some pretty shady actions when I read this article:

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017/03/06/indictment-reveals-details-alleged-ecclesia-kickback-scheme?utm_source=Inside+Higher+Ed&utm_campaign=ee5e601e16-DNU20170306&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1fcbc04421-ee5e601e16-198405865&mc_cid=ee5e601e16&mc_eid=96f3fdd05f

I wonder if there is a correlation between genres/authors read and types of crimes? I'd think the more well read you are the more likely to get away with nefarious deeds. I see the EP Confessions of Saint Augustine and Paradise Lost and have to wonder if President Paris read these, did he pick up anything from them?

2featherwate
Mar 20, 12:25am Top

There is a dilemma for Christians who peruse literature with criminous intent: if you succeed in learning how to do bad things and get away with it, you know that if you actually do a bad thing and don't get away with it you will be in deep doo-doo, unable to rely on an Isaiah 54.17 defense even if your friends and family have invoked it on your behalf, as President Oren Paris's supporters have on his (follow link in asburytr's post above):
"‘No weapon formed against you will succeed, and you will refute any accusation raised against you in court. This is the heritage of the Lord’s servants, and their righteousness is from Me. This is the Lord’s declaration."
Oren Paris is, of course, at present only an alleged wrongdoer and clearly believed by his supporters to be a righteous servant; and I have no reason to think otherwise. But if I were he, I could not help wishing, as I prepared to appear in court, that my parents had not called me by a name so obviously an anagram of
A PRISONER

3Parchment123
Edited: Mar 20, 1:28am Top

>2 featherwate: His parents must have asked God how to name their son. I must say that I like God's humour - almost like if Thomas Mann had written about it. (I recall Potifar's parents in one of the Joseph books.)

How on earth did you spot that anagram?

4elladan0891
Mar 20, 9:52am Top

>2 featherwate:
Haha, nicely done. That also settles the free will debate, btw.

5asburytr
Mar 20, 12:16pm Top

>2 featherwate: good eye!

6featherwate
Mar 20, 3:47pm Top

>3 Parchment123:
"How on earth did you spot that anagram?"
Thanks to a lifelong addiction to crosswords. The article asburytr linked to provided the context - descriptions of alleged illegal shenanigans - that presumably prompted my subconscious to spot the prisoner hiding in Oren Paris...

>4 elladan0891:
Most satisfactory!

7astropi
Mar 20, 6:34pm Top

To be fair, he is "Oren Paris III"... so, a long line of uh, prisoners?

8featherwate
Mar 20, 9:25pm Top

>5 asburytr:
But I'm sorry to de-rail discussion of your original interesting proposition (that the more well read you are the more likely to get away with nefarious deeds).

9featherwate
Mar 20, 9:33pm Top

>7 astropi:
I thought III represented a cell window.... :)

10astropi
Mar 20, 11:18pm Top

9: Nice one! Three bars eh? Small window...

11Parchment123
Edited: Apr 7, 5:47am Top

Maybe he read this Easton Press book but lacked the necessary patience?

Edit: I like the phrase "original hand-signed signature" - unfortunately it was originally printed in machine-printed printing and not in hand-written writing...

Edit2: I have heard about hand-signed paintings, but never before about hand-signed signatures.

12nicklong
Mar 21, 8:48am Top

>11 Parchment123: That's because the autopen has been in existence for centuries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopen

Admittedly esoteric, it's still an issue for autograph collectors. But we're already an esoteric lot as-is. It's mainly known to have been used by multiple US Presidents, going back to Jefferson. There's a difference and a premium for autographs that are actually hand-signed rather than having been signed by autopen. Here's an article describing some of the history as well: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/president-obamas-autopen-when-is-an-a...

13Parchment123
Mar 21, 9:14am Top

>12 nicklong: I know about the autopen. Maybe it's a language problem since English isn't my mother tongue, but "hand-signed signature" makes me visualize a picture of a signature that has been signed in its turn, ie two signatures.

I would have had no problem with "hand-written signature".

14nicklong
Mar 21, 9:52am Top

>13 Parchment123: That double signature would actually be referred to as a "shadow signature". I think they purposefully picked "hand-signed" because you can legally still claim it's "hand-written" with an autopen. It's a bit awkward to be sure, but it's worded that way to confirm it's an actual signature written by that person's hand.

For reference - a shadow signature would be something like this: http://68.media.tumblr.com/533cea48585181289ef1b5646a783248/tumblr_nwxz1somZS1r3...

15varielle
Mar 21, 11:37am Top

>13 Parchment123: Makes me think of the print by Escher - "Drawing Hands".

16astropi
Edited: Mar 21, 2:11pm Top

11: EP signed editions usually come with a certificate of authenticity and the certificate does have a photocopied signature. However, the book itself should indeed be hand-signed. All my signed EP books are indeed hand signed.

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