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Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #77

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1jasbro
Jul 25, 10:34pm Top

THIS THREAD is for LibraryThing Members, and especially for “beginners,” to ask help and learn about combining and separating specific LibraryThing Works.
-- If a book is combined with other, very different books.
-- If a book won’t combine with others just like it.
-- If problems with any Work are overwhelming, or maybe you just don’t have time.

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WHEN YOU POST:
-- Please give Titles, Authors, hyperlinks, and other information that will help.
-- If you post multiple requests at once, please number each group. Examples:

“Please combine:
#1: The Story of the Life of You
http://www.librarything.com/work/AAAAAAAA
http://www.librarything.com/work/BBBBBBBB
#2: The Story of the Life of Everyone Else
http://www.librarything.com/work/XXXXXXXX
http://www.librarything.com/work/YYYYYYYY
http://www.librarything.com/work/ZZZZZZZZ


-- Ask about sets of Works or Series pages, ask for opinions, or ask for help with specific languages, subjects, etc.; but please be brief.
-- Please do not give Search pages, Author pages, or groups of “possibles,” unless you have a specific question.
-- “Someone will be with you shortly.” Most requests are handled by our fellow LibraryThing Members, not by staff.
-- If you add to a post, please use “ETA:” or “EDIT:” to show what’s new.
-- Please note when a request is “DONE.”

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NOTES:
-- If two works have more than 200 records each, LibraryThing staff may need to do the combining. Please post these requests to: http://www.librarything.com/topic/95602 .
-- For information and discussion, but not problems, please see the Combiner’s Group Information, FAQ & Discussion Thread: http://www.librarything.com/topic/57164 .
-- For the related wiki page, please see: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/Book_combining .
-- Please note Tim’s Guidelines for Proper Etiquette for Contacting Members about Book Records at http://www.librarything.com/topic/30795#469616 ; if you contact another Member, please use Private Comment.
-- When this thread reaches 200 posts, please do not post here but start a new Thread. Threads under 200 posts load faster and are easier to navigate. Please copy these notes as post #1 of the new thread. Thank you.

2jasbro
Edited: Jul 25, 10:37pm Top

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3davidgn
Edited: Jul 26, 12:01am Top

Serge Bernstein and Pierre Milza are very messy. Could someone please clean up after them? I've provided a good start.
https://www.librarything.com/author/milzasergebersteinpi

ETA:
These guys, too.
https://www.librarything.com/author/lagardeandreandlaure

And somebody went crazy here with author combinations that should be combined to the previous:
https://www.librarything.com/author/lagardeandr

5Jarandel
Edited: Jul 26, 2:27am Top

>3 davidgn: Most of the "Berstein and Milza" books were strays of works already present on either of those authors' pages or both, combined them. A couple remain that I left alone.

"Serge Bernstein" was combined with "Serge Berstein" as it's an easy and common misspelling and there doesn't seem to be a real Serge Bernstein at least for now.

>3 davidgn: >4 Collectorator: The two left on the "Lagarde & Michard" page were also strays, combined into the relevant works.

6MarthaJeanne
Edited: Jul 26, 10:08am Top

7Jarandel
Jul 26, 10:10am Top

>6 MarthaJeanne: Probably just needed a little waiting or massaging, it shows up now.

8bluepiano
Jul 26, 10:59am Top

Today I got one of the books in this series: https://www.librarything.com/series/Portrait+of+a+City.

From back matter in it I learned that this is a heavily-abridged version of a much larger & longer book and that each book in the series has two editions like these. I don't know whether the two different books have already been separated from each other for each of the books in the series but possibly someone would want to check, and perhaps to post as disambiguation notice for each?

9bluepiano
Jul 26, 11:13am Top

Another one: I've just added http://www.librarything.com/work/12466058/summary/144076169. It's a book of essays about UK, mostly, and from tags & review on main page I can tell that some editions are an altogether different work. For some reason I can't call up the various editions to separate one from the other, though . . . ? clicking 'editions' results only in the book's title.

10Collectorator
Jul 26, 11:22am Top

>9 bluepiano: Essays? That work says it is Maps. There is almost no information given by any cataloguer. I would find a better spot to put your book.

11Jarandel
Edited: Jul 26, 11:41am Top

>9 bluepiano: Your book got auto-combined into a hodgepodge of works simply titled "Maps" with no authors or ISBNs in sight. While your copy sort of has one, it's technically a secondary author, the main author field is blank so nothing distinctive will show up on the list of editions to allow separation.

Either fill in the main author field (if there's one and (s)he isn't Ross Bradshaw), find an ISBN if your copy has one, or transfer the editor Ross Bradshaw to the main author field. The data you modify must be that of your copy of course, not the common knowledge. Hit recalculate author/title and go to the list of editions, it should be visible for separating.

Edit: After separation and recombining it's now in much better company here: http://www.librarything.com/work/11888743/

12davidgn
Jul 27, 12:42am Top

>4 Collectorator: >5 Jarandel: Many thanks for helping me keep my projects chugging along.

13jasbro
Edited: Jul 27, 5:57pm Top

>8 bluepiano: Not having a better starting point or personal experience of the Series, I did a little snooping via WorldCat and Amazon on Los Angeles: Portrait of a City, separated out the apparent abridged edition (see https://www.librarything.com/work/19957827), clarified Authors as best I can, and added Disambiguation Notices and Canonical Titles with "{complete}" or "{abridged}" to distinguish the two Works. I welcome comments, and further clarification, correction or reversion as seems best. Otherwise, maybe I'll also get to Berlin: Portrait of a City, London: Portrait of a City, New York: Portrait of a City and Paris: Portrait of a City. (I love Paris!)

That said, I'm a little puzzled by my Site Search for "Portrait of a City," which turned up lots of other potentials for this Series, some having as their subjects the same cities as Titles already included. How much more do you know about the Series? Thank you.

14kleh
Edited: Jul 28, 6:57am Top

>8 bluepiano:
>13 jasbro:
I don't have LA, but I do have London.
Mine is ISBN 3836545160, copyright Taschen 2013, 192 pages.

The back page says "Our popular Portrait of a City series is now available in the new Piccolo format - 192 pages distilling the best of the originals into pocket-sized books that won't put a dent in your pocket".

15jasbro
Jul 28, 7:29pm Top

>14 kleh: "Distilled in the new Piccolo format" sounds better than "abridged."

16davidgn
Edited: Jul 29, 2:26am Top

Mirjam Pressler , and Mirjam Pressler + Otto H. Frank et al., is way too big a project for me to get into just now, but it needs to be done.
https://www.librarything.com/search.php?search=Mirjam+Pressler&searchtype=authorname&searchtype=authorname&sortchoice=0&combinewith=presslermirjam

17Jarandel
Jul 29, 8:03am Top

>16 davidgn: Gave it a quick look but so far, beside a few that are combined with Anne Frank (I don't think those 3 did anything else together beside her diary so would it be really worth it to separate them out ?) it's all empty authors so you can round up all the variations and combine them but it won't change much.

18bluepiano
Jul 29, 9:05am Top

>13 jasbro: it's good of you to have made a start to it; cheers. So far as I can see those 5 are the only ones in the Taschen series, all in both OS & Piccolo editions, though shouldn't be surprised if more are added in future.

You'd think writers could be a bit more creative with their subtitles, wouldn't you? E.g., Los Angeles: City of Surfaces and Artifices surely has Los Angeles: Portrait of a City beat every which way.

19davidgn
Edited: Jul 30, 4:00am Top

>17 Jarandel: Ah, empty? Good... I didn't fully check. I just looked at them and balked, because I wasn't going to let myself get derailed. ;-)
Thanks for looking.

20davidgn
Edited: Jul 30, 10:53pm Top

Can I post a standing request? I've substantially finished populating The White Ravens for as far back as I can get lists online (https://www.librarything.com/bookaward/The+White+Ravens) , but these are going to need a lot more work. I've done quite a lot of combining for the authors whose names appear in non-Latin scripts (though there's still more to be done), but for the most part I haven't touched the rest of them. There's many days' worth of author and title combining to be done in this set, and I'm not going to be able to get to it anytime soon. So if anyone wants to futz around in my The White Ravens collection (https://www.librarything.com/catalog/davidgn), please have at it. The sooner it's finished, the sooner I'll be able to offload these records and get to adding more awards.

21bluepiano
Aug 2, 5:21pm Top

http://www.librarything.com/combine.php?author=huxleyaldous&onlyprimary=1

I have Huxley's After the Fireworks, a novella. There is another edition containing After the Fireworks and various other stories. I separated the latter from the former and all is well except that the title for the former on this page still reads After the Fireworks and Other Stories. How do I go about righting this? Thanks.

22jjwilson61
Aug 2, 5:42pm Top

>21 bluepiano: Did you click the Recalculate Title/Author link?

23MarthaJeanne
Edited: Aug 3, 1:29am Top

>21 bluepiano: I have just removed the Canonical Title. You should add a disambiguation notice at least to the work that is only the novella.

24davidgn
Edited: Aug 5, 12:19am Top

These guys need Other Author-ing.
https://www.librarything.com/author/dodobenradis
Dodo writes, Radis draws.

ETA: Likewise various Carlos Trillo collaborators.
https://www.librarything.com/search.php?search=Carlos+Trillo&searchtype=authorname

And Cothias & Lax
https://www.librarything.com/author/cothiaslax

25Jarandel
Aug 5, 12:13pm Top

>24 davidgn: They're done I think.

26Lyndatrue
Aug 5, 5:05pm Top

I suspect that, with the current server issues, this problem is not going to be easily worked, and in addition, I'm about to rush off to other things. Someone decided (or perhaps the autocombiner did it) that single issues of "Worlds of If" were the same as the Anthology.

http://www.librarything.com/work/2024485/book/144535506

ISBN is the anthology, and it looks like most of those are the anthology, including the potential covers, but a couple of them are not.

27Jarandel
Edited: Aug 5, 5:25pm Top

>26 Lyndatrue: Separated the one entry that clearly was a single dated issue and recalculated the covers. No more covers for single issues seem to be in the anthology work. Except for the Amazon-suggested cover, probably the result of some crummy third-party reseller entry.

http://www.librarything.com/work/2024485

Do not follow your old link, it's stale and will force the display of a work/book combo that no longer actually exists.

28Lyndatrue
Aug 5, 10:09pm Top

>27 Jarandel: Aw, shucks. You fixed it. Thank you. Now I just have to figure out where the cover flagging link is, so that I can go vote against my flagging of the cover. I keep thinking I saved the notes on how to get there, but I go there so seldom that it just doesn't seem to stick with me.

(Man, the site crashed HARD this time. I was really glad to see your post, and thank you again.)

29drasvola
Aug 7, 5:22am Top

I'd like to combine the separate author pages for Sáez, Juanjo into one (the page that has the author's picture). Can't figure how to do it. Please help

30MarthaJeanne
Edited: Aug 7, 5:31am Top

>29 drasvola: Over on the bottom right of the author page you see

Combine with…

No authors suggested.
Search

Click on search, enter the name and continue from there.

But remember - if only some of the books belong in the combined author, you should split and alias instead.

31drasvola
Aug 7, 5:41am Top

>30 MarthaJeanne:

Thank you. Have done that. Have also combined his works.

32bluepiano
Aug 7, 5:59pm Top

jjwilson61 and MarthaJeanne, thanks for help & advice re After the Fireworks. Have put up disambiguation notice.

33Lyndatrue
Aug 8, 11:40am Top

I've wished, more than once, that there was a workbench for authors, but instead, I am here for help. I'd been talking about cover art (in another thread), and discovered that there were two entries out there for one of them.

http://www.librarything.com/author/penalvajordi
http://www.librarything.com/author/penalva

I was about to combine them, but I suspect it matters which way, and I thought I'd ask here instead. It seems to me that Penalva (one word author) ought to be added into Jordi Penalva, so that Jordi Penalva remains, with Penalva then appearing in the "Includes the names..." line.

Is that a correct assumption? Actually, even if it is correct, may I plead for someone else to do it? Please?

34jjwilson61
Aug 8, 12:45pm Top

>33 Lyndatrue: Are Penalva and Jordi Penalva the same person? If not, they should not be combined. If they are they probably still shouldn't be combined since we don't generally combine last names with full names (think of the confusion that would result if Smith and John Smith were combined).

35Jarandel
Aug 8, 1:54pm Top

>33 Lyndatrue: Jordi Penalva isn't the only author with that last name, even just counting those already existing on LT so, nope.

http://www.librarything.com/search.php?search=penalva&searchtype=authorname&...

36jjwilson61
Aug 8, 1:58pm Top

So it sounds like you should split and alias. It seems odd to split an author which only has one works assigned, but I think that's the only way to get to the alias feature.

37Lyndatrue
Aug 8, 3:42pm Top

>34 jjwilson61: and >36 jjwilson61: It might be that there are other authors with that last name (not an uncommon name), but the single work I'd pointed out with the single author named Penalva is by Jordi Penalva, and (to my knowledge) he's the only author of that name using a single name as identification.

Up to you (and others more experienced in this) though; it's why I asked others to help, rather than just doing it. Thank you very much for the help.

38MarthaJeanne
Aug 8, 3:51pm Top

>37 Lyndatrue: Whether or not an author him- or herself uses the family name alone as an identifier never stopped a member from just using the one name, nor has it ever stopped Amazon merchants.

39Lyndatrue
Aug 8, 4:34pm Top

>36 jjwilson61: I didn't read what you'd written properly, first time out. I was hoping to see the two authors combined, in some way or other. The cover artist/illustrator named Jordi is also the same person that's responsible for the single work by Penalva (single name). I recognize that it's possible for multiple people to use a single name, but, in this case, the artist for "The Star Road" (by Gordon Dickson) is Jordi Penalva.

I only do the most trivial combining things when it comes to authors (or even works), and this is beyond what I'm willing to attempt.

40r.orrison
Aug 8, 5:56pm Top

Split and aliased.

41MissWatson
Aug 9, 9:25am Top

Machonomics
http://www.librarything.com/work/19508158/book/144728484

is the German version of this:
http://www.librarything.com/work/15867141

Do you know why it doesn’t show up on the author page?
http://www.librarything.com/author/marcalkatrine

42MarthaJeanne
Edited: Aug 9, 10:33am Top

>41 MissWatson: Combined.

Because of the two editions one had no author listed. You can fix things like that by recalculating (lower right of work page). You notice the work title and author at the bottom line of the book information box for books you own.

43MissWatson
Aug 9, 2:21pm Top

>42 MarthaJeanne: Thank you, MarthaJeanne. I hope I'll think of that next time.

44SirThomas
Aug 12, 9:57am Top

Is there a reason why Richard Bachman is separated from Stephen King?
I think they were combined and they should be combined.
Bachman has only 3 books: Blaze, Rage and The Regulators, the other books are assigned to Stephen King.

45Collectorator
Aug 12, 11:21am Top

>44 SirThomas: You cannot combine Richard Bachman with Stephen King because Stephen King is a split author.

46jjwilson61
Aug 12, 3:12pm Top

>45 Collectorator: What you can do is alias one of the Stephen King's to Richard Bachman, right?

47Collectorator
Edited: Aug 12, 6:26pm Top

>46 jjwilson61: You can start reading here,
http://www.librarything.com/topic/255844#6032331
but... there is no perfect solution and the one we have is the best one, no matter what Tim Spalding says.

edited to fix who I'm talking to

48SirThomas
Aug 14, 1:26am Top

Thank you both for the information.
It's not nice, but if we have to live with it, it has to go...

492wonderY
Aug 14, 10:59am Top

Peter Wohlleben's page appears to need some work. His Wikipedia page shows only one published title, (in English) The Hidden Life of Trees with many translations. If someone more familiar with the Germanic languages would do the title combinations, please.

Beyond the wiki page, he's also written about animals and humans; and I can't find an official list of publications.

50SimoneA
Aug 14, 11:20am Top

>49 2wonderY: The other works are publications in German that have not been translated. As far as I can tell, they are all distinct works.

512wonderY
Aug 14, 11:24am Top

>50 SimoneA: Okay, thanks!

52MarthaJeanne
Edited: Aug 14, 11:34am Top

>50 SimoneA: Yes, 99% sure they are separate works. Even those where the main title looks similar, the subtitles point to quite different topics.

53jasbro
Edited: Aug 15, 11:23am Top

>44 SirThomas:, >45 Collectorator:, >46 jjwilson61: It may not be kosher, and it may be uncouth, but - FWIW - Richard Bachman is in fact now divided into one distinct Author, with "Richard Bachman-1" aliased into the Stephen King Disambiguation Page. As it happens, none of Bachman's books then needed reassignment to "Stephen King-1," I suspect because more than one of us holds similar expectations. Anybody else can undo it if they must, or I'll undo it myself if it's a problem. Thanks to y'all!

(ETA punctuation and syntax)

54Collectorator
Aug 15, 11:34am Top

Again, who are you thanking and for what?

55jasbro
Aug 15, 1:53pm Top

>54 Collectorator: You, SirThomas, jjwilson61, and all the rest who care enough to devote time and energy improving LibraryThing. It may be imperfect, but it's still a darn sight better'n what me, myself and I came up with before, and I appreciate that too ... Keep it up!

56Collectorator
Aug 15, 2:01pm Top

It's fawning.

57rosalita
Aug 15, 2:05pm Top

>56 Collectorator: You misspelled "you're welcome".

58Collectorator
Aug 15, 2:33pm Top

>57 rosalita: Why am I being thanked because she split an author and aliased the works away? Why should I say "you're welcome" to that? It's obsequious.

59rosalita
Aug 15, 2:46pm Top

I don't want to put words in her mouth, but my interpretation was that since all of the people she referenced in the post had contributed to the discussion of what should be done in that particular case, she was giving a general "thank you" for helping to work through the various issues and help her come to a conclusion that she then implemented. IF I'm right (and I may not be), it does seem that a simple "you're welcome" is appropriate to acknowledge that often decisions on these edge cases come down to a group consensus, which can't happen if folks like you and the other experts don't take the time to contribute your knowledge as you did here.

But if that's not your interpretation, that's certainly OK. I guess I would have defaulted in that case to simply not replying rather than replying in a way that seemed to discourage an attempt at civility. But that's just me.

60Collectorator
Aug 15, 2:50pm Top

>59 rosalita: That all sounds really good on the face of it, but it ignores the fact that she says Thank you! for no reason all the time, often after she herself has done the whatever, as in this case.

61lesmel
Aug 15, 3:29pm Top

Huh. Complaining about being too polite and too courteous. That's a new one.

62Collectorator
Aug 15, 3:47pm Top

>61 lesmel: I don't like being thanked as if I am a minion to a higher-up. It's unctuous.

63jasbro
Aug 17, 4:23pm Top

>62 Collectorator: Please accept my apology, if appropriate. And don't read what follows, if you don't have to.

I don't mean to give offense; that would be silly, counterproductive, and neither of us has (or should have) time for it. Maybe I'm too free, or too glib, about offering "thanks"; but that doesn't mean it's any less sincere. It comes easily and naturally to me, ingrained by nature and nurture, fundamentally part of who I am, part and parcel of honoring and respecting those I come in contact with. It's a way I was reared, a way of life. It's served me well, and I'm pleased to have passed it on to our kids.

To elaborate, when I offer thanks to someone, anyone, I'm generally neither aware of nor intend it as fawning, obsequious or unctuous; to do so would presuppose there's something they might give me, or do on my behalf, that they wouldn't otherwise give or do. Or I'm asking something that goes against their own best interest. There's a difference to my mind between "please" and "pleeeeeaaaaase!" Thankfully (there's that word again!), I've never knowingly wanted or needed to wheedle or cajole anyone for anything, especially not for something in our mutual self-interest, as LibraryThing is. Perhaps that just my prerogative showing.

To digress, I also freely and readily address others (minions and higher-ups alike) as "sir" or "ma'am." These stylistic, verbal practices no doubt come from the same antiquated time and place as "y'all," but they're important to me, and I'm stubborn enough to persist in their use, in spite (or maybe because) of knowing when, where, and how Dad got in Big Trouble for using them as a child. (They were required Down South; they were forbidden Up North.) I'm aware they sometimes give offense, but then I'm an equal opportunity offender. Given a choice, I prefer being too polite and too courteous.

To digress further, it's also interesting to me what presumptions (by which I only mean suppositions based on probability, not the audacious kind, and as opposed to "assumptions" - suppositions made out of whole cloth) we reach about each other based on limited information, knowledge and interactions. Yes, I prob'ly think I'm being cagey, and more clever than is warranted or good for me, in not sharing over-much personal details of myself. On the other hand, I've been confused, even accused, more than once of being someone I'm not. For the record, the last I checked (about 20 minutes ago), I'm still a cisgender, middle-class (middle-aged!), politically contrarian, WASP male, full of snarkasm, just enough suspicion of Native American ancestry to empathize with Elizabeth Warren, and an inner fantasy life that might've served James Thurber well to write a more compelling Secret Life of Walter Mitty.

Suffice to say, I'm grateful for LibraryThing, and for you, and I would express that. Often. First Amendment stuff, and All That Jazz ... If my thanks doesn't resonate for you, I'm OK intending it for someone else instead. (A third digression, if I may: My closest-friend-in-the-world-to-whom-I'm-not-married also objects to my free & easy use of "thanks." A student of Chinese language, life and culture, he considers that we're past it as "same house people," and not socially inferior or superior. We compromise with "(no) thanks," chuckle a bit, each know what the other means, and move on. Would it help if I say "thanks*" instead, and you can supply an appropriate negation or qualifier?)

For here and for now, I'll say "Best always, and take care."

64Collectorator
Aug 17, 5:06pm Top

o, kak.

66Jarandel
Aug 20, 5:44pm Top

68MarthaJeanne
Aug 22, 6:47am Top

69bluepiano
Aug 23, 10:31am Top

This isn't strictly a question about combining, well it isn't about combining at all, but these books have been listed as a series when they only thing they've in common is the publisher And Other Stories. Surely a publisher's list isn't the same as a series? or on LT, is it? Cheers.

http://www.librarything.com/series/And+Other+Stories

70jasbro
Edited: Aug 23, 12:13pm Top

>69 bluepiano: "Publisher's Series" is a separate Common Knowledge field. I'll cross-post our separate thread at http://www.librarything.com/topic/150442#6154528, and suggest we move this Series to a Publisher's Series instead.

71jjwilson61
Aug 23, 1:12pm Top

I don't think Publisher's Series is meant to be a listing of all of a publisher's works, but only works that had been included in an actual series.

72bluepiano
Edited: Aug 23, 4:32pm Top

>71 jjwilson61: That's what I thought. 'And Other Stories' to be clear is the name of a publisher, not of a sub-set of its books. I suppose there might be a series called And Other Stories issued by the likes of Random House or Penguin, but the books I recognised on that series page were all issued by & Other Stories and so it's a partial 'publisher's list' rather than 'publisher's series'.

73Cecrow
Aug 25, 11:57am Top

I'm thinking these are the same work, for combining:
https://www.librarything.com/work/157401 (English edition)
https://www.librarything.com/work/12035898 (Italian edition)

74Jarandel
Aug 25, 12:01pm Top

>73 Cecrow: Yep, combined them and another stray copy.

75Stevil2001
Edited: Aug 29, 8:18am Top

Somehow this work has been separated into two, one of which is a zero-copy work... but the zero-copy work is the one with all the CK data and the recommendations!

https://www.librarything.com/work/2489360
https://www.librarything.com/work/20055680

I can't get them to combine, even with Workbench. I also tried setting a Canonical Author for the zero-copy one (it had no main author, even though it had three Other Authors), but that didn't help, either.

76r.orrison
Edited: Aug 29, 10:26am Top

I've combined them, but there's a lot of what looks like incorrect CK on the resulting work: https://www.librarything.com/work/20055680/commonknowledge

Wait, what did I just do? That work is now a combination of Sorrows of Empire and Glass Empires.

Separating...
Sorrows of Empire is now https://www.librarything.com/work/20055680
Glass Empires is now https://www.librarything.com/work/20153364

Someone else will need to clean up the CK... Stevil2001?

77Stevil2001
Edited: Aug 29, 1:56pm Top

I will fix the CK as best I can. I haven't read these books in a long time!

78SaintSunniva
Sep 2, 11:36am Top

Would someone straighten out the following, from the author-illustrator Christine Price http://www.librarything.com/author/pricechristine which has a (1), (2), (3) and "unknown".

From the "unknown" list, the following should be moved to the (1) group: Legions of the Eagle; Cobblers' Knob; Made in Ancient Egypt; The Valient chatee-maker

From the "unknown" list, the following should be moved to the (2) group: Bats, Bats, Bats/Bats at Bat; Man in the Moon

Last, but not least, my books
The Unicorn Who Wanted to Be Seen http://www.librarything.com/work/1628442 and
A Traveler in Time http://www.librarything.com/work/90663/summary/8838771,
both illustrated by Christine Price should be in the (1) group, but are not for some reason.

Thanks in advance!

79Jarandel
Edited: Sep 2, 11:48am Top

>78 SaintSunniva: She needed to be added/confirmed as an author at the work level. I and someone else put her as secondary, some editions author on each book so the works would show up on the author page.

If her role is more prominent or there are no versions that she didn't illustrate you might want to change that in the future.

80SaintSunniva
Sep 2, 11:59am Top

Some of the works she's the illustrator and that's indicated as (illustrator)...I don't know how that's done, though.

81MarthaJeanne
Sep 2, 12:34pm Top

Go into 'Other authors' on the work page, and you can edit the information.

82frink
Sep 2, 4:05pm Top

Hmpfh, I thought I could fix this myself but I can't find the editing capability and it's been a while since I saw a combiner I could improve. So:

This:
https://www.librarything.com/work/20178356
is a recent new translation of this:
https://www.librarything.com/work/591036

also the author's page for the Yefremov name variant the first is under shows "Combination issues" under the Improve This Author sidebar (just that the data from the more known name variant needs imported), but again, I'm not seeing any edit/save buttons or links.

Whomever can touch this up, thanks!

83MarthaJeanne
Sep 2, 4:26pm Top

82> Someone else beat me to the combining. I got rid of the combining issues.

84SaintSunniva
Edited: Sep 2, 4:52pm Top

http://www.librarything.com/work/4402611/covers/10696947 (Told Under the Christmas Tree) has an incorrect cover in the seven possible covers. Can someone remove it?

The incorrect cover: http://www.librarything.com/work/4402611/covers/10696947 (which is the cover for Told Under the Green Umbrella)

Thank you!

85MarthaJeanne
Edited: Sep 2, 5:00pm Top

>84 SaintSunniva: I've separated a copy of that title out. Hopefully that will clear things up over time.

86jasbro
Edited: Sep 3, 10:21pm Top

>84 SaintSunniva:, >85 MarthaJeanne: I've also flagged Told Under the Green Umbrella as an inapplicable cover for Told Under the Christmas Tree, then "voted up" my flag. If you go to the latter, select the inapplicable cover, and vote "Yes," I think you would advance the clearance process. Thanks.

88SetsunaMin
Sep 6, 12:37am Top

Please separate...

White Sand, the book that Brandon Sanderson would email to fans on request... http://www.librarything.com/work/18316952/book/120107550

from

White Sand, the graphic novel series.... http://www.librarything.com/work/18316952/132957638

I know those links kind of go to the same thing, I don't know how to provide better links...

The ebook and the graphic novel are separate entities. The graphic novel is based on an unpublished book. On request, Brandon Sanderson would email this book as a word/text file to fans. However, he no longer does this as the graphic novel is being published. Though the graphic novel is based on the original book, there are changes and differences between the stories, such as one character being switched from male to female in the graphic novel.

Because of the differences inherent in their medium and the changes made to the story, it would be best to have two separate entries for these so that they can be discussed, reviewed, separately.

Thank you for considering this!

89SimoneA
Sep 6, 4:00am Top

>88 SetsunaMin: I have separated out the editions that listed the title as White Sand, without further additions or ISBN. Based on covers, this should be a bit better. It may still not be ideal, as people might catalogue the graphic novel in that exact way. If they do, it will be impossible to separate the versions.

90omargosh
Sep 6, 8:24am Top

Somebody should add some disambiguation messages, or else they'll just get recombined.

92europhile
Sep 6, 9:32pm Top

93SaintSunniva
Edited: Sep 8, 1:14am Top

re https://www.librarything.com/work/35757/135358593
Would someone please tidy up this Main Page for this work, Stolen Lives: Twenty Years in a Desert Jail
The author is Malika Oufkir
The co-author is Michèle Fitoussi
The translator is Ros Schwartz

I have it correct on my own listing of it. And the list of authors on the Main Page (2/3 of the way down, after the reviews) is correct, I think. I want the author listing at the top of the page to be correct. And the title! Even though I corrected the canonical title it was not changed at the top...eg there's still no punctuation, etc.

Thank you!

94r.orrison
Edited: Sep 8, 2:08am Top

That link (https://www.librarything.com/work/35757/135358593) is to the book in lnmoser's library, and shows the details as that member has entered them - only that user can change their own data.

The main work page is https://www.librarything.com/work/35757/work/94629109 and looks correct (assuming that Michèle Fitoussi is a secondary author, not a main author).

Your copy is here at https://www.librarything.com/work/35757/details/94629109 - it's showing " (Oprah's Book Club)" in the title because that's how it's entered in your catalog, and you'll see that until you fix it on the Edit Book page. The Canonical Title doesn't override what you have in your own catalog.

95SaintSunniva
Sep 8, 9:19pm Top

>94 r.orrison: thanks so much for fixing it, and the tips.

97r.orrison
Sep 11, 7:10am Top

Done.

98Ameise1
Sep 11, 5:37pm Top

>97 r.orrison: Thanks so much.

99SaintSunniva
Sep 11, 8:13pm Top

Just discovered this author's page is messed up. It says there are 238 works. Well there are five, and most likely one of them is also false. The rest are called No Title with supposedly 13 copies each. All 233 of them. If you click on any one No Title, you discover it has zero copies.

http://www.librarything.com/author/malkusalida

Thanks for straightening this one out.

100Jarandel
Edited: Sep 11, 10:35pm Top

>99 SaintSunniva: She has many more works than just 5, but it should look sane again, recalculating author/title on the 0-copies held by no-one chased all the phantom 13-holders books off the author page.

101SaintSunniva
Sep 13, 9:49am Top

>100 Jarandel: Thank you! This is great.

103r.orrison
Edited: Sep 15, 5:31am Top

That can be done from the author's page http://www.librarything.com/author/hamidmohsin by clicking on the author's name in the Improve this author box on the right. Just find the two copies in the list, tick the box by them, and click the Combine Works button at the top of the page.

It can also be done from either work's editions page - click Editions on the left of the work page to get to http://www.librarything.com/work/20236554/editions/146050178 then click (combine/separate potentials).

If you'd still like someone to do it for you, or if you have any other questions - just ask. This is a nice straightforward one to learn on.

104Ameise1
Sep 15, 5:35am Top

>103 r.orrison: Thanks so much, I've done it.

105bnielsen
Sep 15, 5:43am Top

>104 Ameise1: Yay! Another combiner is born :-)

106Ameise1
Sep 15, 7:46am Top

>105 bnielsen: I only hope that I can remember the instruction next time. :-)

107bnielsen
Sep 15, 9:51am Top

>106 Ameise1:. You can "Star this topic" on top of this page to make it easier to find next time. :-)

108Taphophile13
Sep 15, 11:22am Top

>106 Ameise1: Or you can star individual posts by clicking "More" and then "Add to favorites".

109Ameise1
Sep 15, 5:16pm Top

>107 bnielsen: >108 Taphophile13: Thanks so much. I alread had starred this topic and have added it to favourites.

110bluepiano
Sep 16, 3:36pm Top

http://www.librarything.com/work/10966078 and http://www.librarything.com/work/11461370/book/129296188, please. And thank you. (Have had no joy recalculating, trying to combine author name with itself, etc.)

111MarthaJeanne
Sep 16, 4:02pm Top

>110 bluepiano: Done. I had to use other authors to make the books both show on the author page. Workbench would also have worked.

112skittles
Sep 16, 9:46pm Top

OK, I'm checking some books and combining and I come across this book:

A Concise Encyclopedia of Gastronomy

http://www.librarything.com/work/992801

and in the editions, I see 2 copies (1 line) with the title, A Concise Encyclopedia of Gardening.

OK, am I hallucinating? someone having a joke? someone mistyped the title?

The author doesn't have a concise encyclopedia of gardening... not that I could quickly ascertain.

if it is a 'misplaced' book, feel free to separate the gardening from the gastronomy.

(too tired to think clearly)

113Jarandel
Sep 16, 11:10pm Top

>112 skittles: It seems to be ratty data for the Gastronomy Encyclopaedia that's popped up in a few places, probably including Amazon that someone then imported from.

https://www.bookdepository.com/Concise-Encyclopedia-Gardening-Andre-L-Simon/9780879511807

114bluepiano
Sep 17, 11:22am Top

If you mean you added Willy Cabourdin, the editor, I should have thought of that.

I know this isn't a combining matter at all but the work just combined was dual language, and I'm idly wondering if there's any way to show on a book page that the book is in two or more languages on an equal footing? A surprising number of art books are trilingual--English, French, German--& whilst the writers' original language(s) can usually be sussed the book hasn't really a 'primary' nor 'secondary' (nor tertiary) language.

115MarthaJeanne
Sep 17, 11:41am Top

>114 bluepiano: You can always use 'Multiple Languages'. I prefer to use the two or three languages as primary, secondary, original to include them all, guessing one to call original and otherwise choosing by my usage of the languages involved.

116bluepiano
Edited: Sep 17, 1:45pm Top

Oh jayzus I'm blushing in shame--probably, I mean I didn't look in the mirror to verify--because though I often use 'multiple' for original language, it hadn't occurred to me that it was an option for language of the book. Thank you so much. I shall try to be considerably more alert in future.

I have just got all these into a series with I hope the right edition numbers. I don't suppose someone else would be interested in combining the duplicates? http://www.librarything.com/publisherseries/European+Illustration

117skittles
Sep 17, 3:51pm Top

Thank you so much, Jarandel!

Yes, I thought it might be ratty data from the data rats, but couldn't be sure. Thanks for the confirmation!!

118europhile
Sep 18, 3:38am Top

>116 bluepiano: Done, with some renumbering.

119SaintSunniva
Sep 19, 8:08pm Top

http://www.librarything.com/combine.php?author=grahamejohnstonejane

On this author's page, it appears that hundreds or thousands of Alice in Wonderland books are credited to her...she illustrated it, but of course so did many other people.

It would be great if someone wants to tidy it up.

121MarthaJeanne
Edited: Sep 20, 1:59am Top

>119 SaintSunniva: If you don't want to see Alice on the combine page you can click on the primary author only link instead of the general one.

>120 Avron: Done with workbench.

122Cecrow
Edited: Sep 26, 9:39am Top

As a general comment on what looks like a major project, Marcel Proust's In Search of Lost Time, aka Remembrance of Things Past" is a complete mess as a series and every individual entry could use some serious combining efforts. This has probably been raised before, I'm curious what the issues are. I'd imagine different editions divide the work different ways, and I do realize several of the volumes go under a variety of translated titles; but it could surely be tidier than this?

It is typically divided into seven parts, published in six volumes and titled as follows:
1. Swann's Way (aka The Way by Swann's)
2. Within a Budding Grove (aka In the Shadow of Young Girls in Flower)
3. The Guermantes Way
4. Sodom and Gomorrah (aka Cities of the Plain)
5. The Captive (aka The Prisoner) & 6. The Fugitive (aka The Sweet Cheat Gone, aka Albertine Gone) (often published together, since both are fairly short alone)
7. Time Regained (aka Finding Time Again, aka The Past Recaptured)

Each instance on LT comes with multiple entries that need combining. Maybe after that, something can be done to clean-up the identified sequence.

Looking at the series page, for example, you can't presently find a listing for the complete second volume: https://www.librarything.com/series/In+Search+of+Lost+Time

Complication: although I've said 'typically', some of these seven may also be found sub-divided (e.g. Swann's Way Part One and Part Two).

123Cecrow
Edited: Sep 26, 2:17pm Top

>122 Cecrow:, required combination cleanup for the first volume, Swann's Way:

#1: Swann's Way (complete first volume)
http://www.librarything.com/work/18169
http://www.librarything.com/work/430884
http://www.librarything.com/work/16497882
http://www.librarything.com/work/15166985 (I suspect this Lewis fellow is a translator?)
http://www.librarything.com/work/19980970
http://www.librarything.com/work/13037437
http://www.librarything.com/work/16328429
http://www.librarything.com/work/7890179
http://www.librarything.com/work/19630827
http://www.librarything.com/work/19603204
http://www.librarything.com/work/19806685
http://www.librarything.com/work/19920403
http://www.librarything.com/work/19563579
http://www.librarything.com/work/18760909
http://www.librarything.com/work/6837502 (author's name has an ugly merge with translator's)
http://www.librarything.com/work/17280228
http://www.librarything.com/work/17281075
http://www.librarything.com/work/3103324
http://www.librarything.com/work/14804156
http://www.librarything.com/work/19918967
http://www.librarything.com/work/19769718
http://www.librarything.com/work/9363577
http://www.librarything.com/work/20107902
http://www.librarything.com/work/14257101
http://www.librarything.com/work/19525268
http://www.librarything.com/work/20055080
http://www.librarything.com/work/20107040
http://www.librarything.com/work/10168382
http://www.librarything.com/work/19593335 (Spanish edition)
http://www.librarything.com/work/13802535
http://www.librarything.com/work/19624661

#2: Swann's Way (Part I)
http://www.librarything.com/work/8367536
http://www.librarything.com/work/18577680
http://www.librarything.com/work/18577646
http://www.librarything.com/work/18577660
http://www.librarything.com/work/18577665
http://www.librarything.com/work/18577677
http://www.librarything.com/work/18577669

#3: Swann's Way (Part 2)
http://www.librarything.com/work/8367535
http://www.librarything.com/work/10167613

124jasbro
Sep 26, 3:26pm Top

>123 Cecrow: Wow.

If any suggestions for the scope, format, structure or organization of this Herculean feat would help, consider what we've built up over recent months and years for The Lord of the Rings. For reference, it's an ongoing process; all assistance is greatly appreciated. Be sure to come back here with any questions, or propose specific, helpful tasks that would support the overall effort.

Thanks & good luck!

125Cynfelyn
Sep 27, 2:19pm Top

Despite a Disambiguation Notice, an Italian copy of Gladiator (Il gladiatore, plus review) has become attached to Scott Ridley instead of Ridley Scott. Please could someone do the honours. Many thanks.

Scott Ridley
Ridley Scott

126MarthaJeanne
Sep 27, 2:31pm Top

>125 Cynfelyn: Combined works. Disambiguation Notices can't stop people from making mistakes in entering their copies.

127masterdeski
Sep 27, 6:03pm Top

I added an additional author to a CD but the link goes to the disambiguation for that person. Since the author isn't the primary for that work, it isn't listed in the list of possible combinations (or I couldn't find it). Can someone help?
The work is Celtic Circle (www.librarything.com/work/16525320), and the author is John Williams (3) (www.librarything.com/author/williamsjohn-3)

128MarthaJeanne
Sep 27, 6:30pm Top

>127 masterdeski: You had added the author on your copy, but not confirmed it on the work. I have done so for him, but I suggest that you do so for the others. You will find the other authors area on the main work page.

129Jarandel
Sep 27, 6:41pm Top

>127 masterdeski: Not sure what the problem is, or someone already sorted it ? Following "John Williams" from the work page for that CD lands on John Williams (3), and the work shows in his "Also by" section as it should for a secondary author. Roped in a couple strays while I was looking around.

130SaintSunniva
Sep 28, 12:36pm Top

I added a cover for my book
http://www.librarything.com/work/20290141.
Then I created the series to which it belongs
http://www.librarything.com/series/Patron+Saint+Books,
but for some reason the cover image does not show up on the series page, even though I have the only copy of it on LT.

Thanks for your help!

131masterdeski
Sep 28, 12:38pm Top

>128 MarthaJeanne: I'm not sure what you mean by "confirming it on the work." And when I click on the link to John Williams on the book page it still brings me to the disambiguation page, so I don't know what you fixed either.
I have been trying to clean out the unknowns of the dead/alive and gender of authors stat pages and have found that many links go to a disambiguation page. When I investigate, I realize that these are additional authors of books in my library and I have no idea how to attach a secondary author to the right author page.

132Jarandel
Sep 28, 12:59pm Top

>131 masterdeski: When you own at least one copy of the work you're looking at, the website defaults to showing you the data for your specific copy.

There's a work level page that is the one displayed to non-holders of the work, it can be reached through one of the right-hand links ("Work-only work page"). That's where you can validate the author(s) and their role(s), which will make the work appear on author pages, where it can be attributed to a specific author if the page is split.

133Stevil2001
Edited: Sep 28, 1:54pm Top

>130 SaintSunniva: Hit "Recalculate cover" in the far right column, and the covers will update at the work level. I think this happens automatically at some interval, but by pressing the link you force LT to do it. (I already did it for you on this work.)

134supersidvicious
Edited: Sep 29, 7:10am Top

136bnielsen
Sep 29, 6:41am Top

>132 Jarandel: Thanks! This allowed me to combine some works where the source I'd added from credited the graphic artist rather than the author of the story as "primary author". Now I wonder how many of that kind of wotks I have, so I'll probably be busy for some time with this :-)

137masterdeski
Sep 29, 1:50pm Top

>132 Jarandel: >136 bnielsen: Thanks also, and I will be going thru my stuff as well!

138jasbro
Edited: Sep 29, 4:13pm Top

>130 SaintSunniva:, >131 masterdeski: To elaborate using the Work in post 127 above, the Work-level record is

http://www.librarything.com/work/16525320

and masterdeski's individual copy is

http://www.librarything.com/work/16525320/book/146487545

Note ".../book/#########" at the end of the individual copy URL. For each Member's individual record of any given Work, this format refers to particular details of that Member's individual copy, and it's the Member's default view. Aggregate or calculated information applicable to all Members' copies of the Work is stored at the Work level, and viewed from the Member's "Work-only work page" at ".../work/#########." And the cover for SaintSunniva's individual copy of the Work in post 130 above is at still another URL, http://www.librarything.com/work/20290141/covers/146444664.

So that's (at least) four ways we could look at every Work on LibraryThing. No wonder I get confused sometimes ...

139morwen04
Sep 30, 4:49pm Top

Even though there is a note on Stephanie Meyer's author page saying she is not the author of the Twilight Saga there are still Stephenie Meyer books and I am not able to fix it right now.

http://www.librarything.com/author/meyerstephanie

140amanda4242
Sep 30, 5:04pm Top

141Littlemissbashful
Edited: Oct 1, 8:14pm Top

Any advice?

I'm not sure if this is an issue that needs untangling or if it is even possible but I stumbled on the following when entering an alternative version of a 'Father Brown Mysteries' omnibus

> The Complete Father Brown Mysteries

It currently shows two different series annotations (for both 50 and 51 stories) plus three different disambiguation notices (where the editions seem to have been combined anyway) and lists four canonical titles under CK?

There are apparently various omnibus editions including anywhere between 50 and 53 stories.

The 53 story omnibus has the additional work published as 'Uncollected Stories' which includes two extra stories but some editions of this would already appear to be combined with the above anyhow?

> Father Brown Mysteries

I'm not sure whether to combine the above item with all the others in the first work or attempt to separate out the various versions?

However, where no ISBN is shown against an edition I can't see how it would be possible to work out which editions include what.

If it doesn't really matter would it be simpler to amend the disambiguation to say that the complete omnibus work includes all variants containing the five main works and those including the additional stories?

The disambiguations on the existing record show as

1. This omnibus "work" contains ALL of the 50 short stories originally published in the first five individual collections of Father Brown stories issued between 1911 and 1935. Note that the fifth "Scandal of" collection was originally published in 1935 with only 8 stories; The Vampire of the Village short story wasn't initially published until 1936 so it was only added as a ninth story to later editions of the "Scandal of" collection. However, "complete" omnibus editions of the FB canon did not include that story until many years after it had been added to "Scandal of". Hence this "complete" omnibus is a DIFFERENT work to later "complete" omnibus editions containing 51 or 53 short stories. Additionally, the UK "complete" omnibus edition did NOT count the "framing" text at the beginning and end of the "Secret of" collection as actual stories while the comparable US edition did, so 48 complete stories in UK eds. = 50 complete stories in US eds.

2. This omnibus "work" contains ALL of the 51 short stories originally published as The Innocence of FB (12 stories), The Wisdom of FB (12 stories), The Incredulity of FB (8 stories), The Secret of FB (10 stories) and The Scandal of FB (originally 8, later 9 stories). Please note that this "complete" omnibus is NOT the same as the "complete" omnibus edition containing 2 additional FB stories (for a total of 53 stories) so please DO NOT combine it with that one or any other common omnibus editions of FB short stories that contain less than 51.

3. This omnibus "work" contains ALL of the 53 short stories in the Father Brown canon; the 51 stories originally published as The Innocence of FB (12 stories), The Wisdom of FB (12 stories), The Incredulity of FB (8 stories), The Secret of FB (10 stories) and The Scandal of FB (originally 8, later 9 stories) plus The Donnington Affair (1914) and The Mask of Midas (1936) that normally are not included in other "complete" omnibus editions. Please DO NOT combine it with that one or any other common omnibus editions of FB short stories that contain less than the full complement of 53 stories.

Sorry - 'head is now full' ...

142Stevil2001
Oct 5, 6:03pm Top

These two authors need combining (won't let me for some reason):
https://www.librarything.com/author/sudzukagoran
https://www.librarything.com/author/sudukagoran

143r.orrison
Oct 5, 6:19pm Top

144Stevil2001
Oct 6, 9:13am Top

145bluepiano
Edited: Oct 8, 5:59pm Top

I suppose it's just, barely possible that there's someone working in an ad agency who's also a businessman/computer expert interested in weapons and who's also a part-time archaelogist whose avocations are novel-writing and the study of spiders and scorpions. It's just as hard to believe yet I know much more likely that someone in this group might want to deal with Tim Williams: https://www.librarything.com/author/williamstim.

146Schmerguls
Edited: Oct 14, 10:33am Top

I have this book listed :

5432. Happy Days Are Here Again The 1932 Democratic Convention, the Emergence of FDR--And How America Was Changed Forever, by Steve Neal (read 16 Dec 2016)

https://www.librarything.com/work/251646/book/136959051

but neither under the title nor under the author is there any reference to the fact that I have it. Why is that?

Well, I figured it out: I show the author as Steve Neal, which is the way his name appears in the book I read, whereas the others have the author as "Steven Neal". Can someone smart, unlike me, combine Steve Neal and Steven Neal, since they are undoubtedly the same person? I don't want to change my listing since the book does list the author as Steve, not Steven. Thanks.

147Jarandel
Oct 14, 11:05am Top

148Schmerguls
Oct 14, 11:39am Top

Thanks much, Jarandel.

150Jarandel
Yesterday, 7:41pm Top

>149 Katya0133: Combined them, except the last one someone else seems to have gotten to first.

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