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Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #77


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Edited: Mar 28, 6:41pm Top

ETA: There are two #77s, but no #78

THIS THREAD is for LibraryThing Members, and especially for “beginners,” to ask help and learn about combining and separating specific LibraryThing Works.
-- If a book is combined with other, very different books.
-- If a book won’t combine with others just like it.
-- If problems with any Work are overwhelming, or maybe you just don’t have time.


-- Please give Titles, Authors, hyperlinks, and other information that will help.
-- If you post multiple requests at once, please number each group. Examples:

“Please combine:
#1: The Story of the Life of You
#2: The Story of the Life of Everyone Else

-- Ask about sets of Works or Series pages, ask for opinions, or ask for help with specific languages, subjects, etc.; but please be brief.
-- Please do not give Search pages, Author pages, or groups of “possibles,” unless you have a specific question.
-- “Someone will be with you shortly.” Most requests are handled by our fellow LibraryThing Members, not by staff.
-- If you add to a post, please use “ETA:” or “EDIT:” to show what’s new.
-- Please note when a request is “DONE.”


-- If two works have more than 200 records each, LibraryThing staff may need to do the combining. Please post these requests to: http://www.librarything.com/topic/95602 .
-- For information and discussion, but not problems, please see the Combiner’s Group Information, FAQ & Discussion Thread: http://www.librarything.com/topic/57164 .
-- For the related wiki page, please see: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/Book_combining .
-- Please note Tim’s Guidelines for Proper Etiquette for Contacting Members about Book Records at http://www.librarything.com/topic/30795#469616 ; if you contact another Member, please use Private Comment.
-- When this thread reaches 200 posts, please do not post here but start a new Thread. Threads under 200 posts load faster and are easier to navigate. Please copy these notes as post #1 of the new thread. Thank you.

Edited: Jul 25, 2017, 10:37pm Top

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Edited: Jul 26, 2017, 12:01am Top

Serge Bernstein and Pierre Milza are very messy. Could someone please clean up after them? I've provided a good start.

These guys, too.

And somebody went crazy here with author combinations that should be combined to the previous:

Edited: Jul 26, 2017, 2:27am Top

>3 davidgn: Most of the "Berstein and Milza" books were strays of works already present on either of those authors' pages or both, combined them. A couple remain that I left alone.

"Serge Bernstein" was combined with "Serge Berstein" as it's an easy and common misspelling and there doesn't seem to be a real Serge Bernstein at least for now.

>3 davidgn: >4 Collectorator: The two left on the "Lagarde & Michard" page were also strays, combined into the relevant works.

Edited: Jul 26, 2017, 10:08am Top

Jul 26, 2017, 10:10am Top

>6 MarthaJeanne: Probably just needed a little waiting or massaging, it shows up now.

Jul 26, 2017, 10:59am Top

Today I got one of the books in this series: https://www.librarything.com/series/Portrait+of+a+City.

From back matter in it I learned that this is a heavily-abridged version of a much larger & longer book and that each book in the series has two editions like these. I don't know whether the two different books have already been separated from each other for each of the books in the series but possibly someone would want to check, and perhaps to post as disambiguation notice for each?

Jul 26, 2017, 11:13am Top

Another one: I've just added http://www.librarything.com/work/12466058/summary/144076169. It's a book of essays about UK, mostly, and from tags & review on main page I can tell that some editions are an altogether different work. For some reason I can't call up the various editions to separate one from the other, though . . . ? clicking 'editions' results only in the book's title.

Jul 26, 2017, 11:22am Top

>9 bluepiano: Essays? That work says it is Maps. There is almost no information given by any cataloguer. I would find a better spot to put your book.

Edited: Jul 26, 2017, 11:41am Top

>9 bluepiano: Your book got auto-combined into a hodgepodge of works simply titled "Maps" with no authors or ISBNs in sight. While your copy sort of has one, it's technically a secondary author, the main author field is blank so nothing distinctive will show up on the list of editions to allow separation.

Either fill in the main author field (if there's one and (s)he isn't Ross Bradshaw), find an ISBN if your copy has one, or transfer the editor Ross Bradshaw to the main author field. The data you modify must be that of your copy of course, not the common knowledge. Hit recalculate author/title and go to the list of editions, it should be visible for separating.

Edit: After separation and recombining it's now in much better company here: http://www.librarything.com/work/11888743/

Jul 27, 2017, 12:42am Top

>4 Collectorator: >5 Jarandel: Many thanks for helping me keep my projects chugging along.

Edited: Jul 27, 2017, 5:57pm Top

>8 bluepiano: Not having a better starting point or personal experience of the Series, I did a little snooping via WorldCat and Amazon on Los Angeles: Portrait of a City, separated out the apparent abridged edition (see https://www.librarything.com/work/19957827), clarified Authors as best I can, and added Disambiguation Notices and Canonical Titles with "{complete}" or "{abridged}" to distinguish the two Works. I welcome comments, and further clarification, correction or reversion as seems best. Otherwise, maybe I'll also get to Berlin: Portrait of a City, London: Portrait of a City, New York: Portrait of a City and Paris: Portrait of a City. (I love Paris!)

That said, I'm a little puzzled by my Site Search for "Portrait of a City," which turned up lots of other potentials for this Series, some having as their subjects the same cities as Titles already included. How much more do you know about the Series? Thank you.

Edited: Jul 28, 2017, 6:57am Top

>8 bluepiano:
>13 jasbro:
I don't have LA, but I do have London.
Mine is ISBN 3836545160, copyright Taschen 2013, 192 pages.

The back page says "Our popular Portrait of a City series is now available in the new Piccolo format - 192 pages distilling the best of the originals into pocket-sized books that won't put a dent in your pocket".

Jul 28, 2017, 7:29pm Top

>14 kleh: "Distilled in the new Piccolo format" sounds better than "abridged."

Edited: Jul 29, 2017, 2:26am Top

Mirjam Pressler , and Mirjam Pressler + Otto H. Frank et al., is way too big a project for me to get into just now, but it needs to be done.

Jul 29, 2017, 8:03am Top

>16 davidgn: Gave it a quick look but so far, beside a few that are combined with Anne Frank (I don't think those 3 did anything else together beside her diary so would it be really worth it to separate them out ?) it's all empty authors so you can round up all the variations and combine them but it won't change much.

Jul 29, 2017, 9:05am Top

>13 jasbro: it's good of you to have made a start to it; cheers. So far as I can see those 5 are the only ones in the Taschen series, all in both OS & Piccolo editions, though shouldn't be surprised if more are added in future.

You'd think writers could be a bit more creative with their subtitles, wouldn't you? E.g., Los Angeles: City of Surfaces and Artifices surely has Los Angeles: Portrait of a City beat every which way.

Edited: Jul 30, 2017, 4:00am Top

>17 Jarandel: Ah, empty? Good... I didn't fully check. I just looked at them and balked, because I wasn't going to let myself get derailed. ;-)
Thanks for looking.

Edited: Jul 30, 2017, 10:53pm Top

Can I post a standing request? I've substantially finished populating The White Ravens for as far back as I can get lists online (https://www.librarything.com/bookaward/The+White+Ravens) , but these are going to need a lot more work. I've done quite a lot of combining for the authors whose names appear in non-Latin scripts (though there's still more to be done), but for the most part I haven't touched the rest of them. There's many days' worth of author and title combining to be done in this set, and I'm not going to be able to get to it anytime soon. So if anyone wants to futz around in my The White Ravens collection (https://www.librarything.com/catalog/davidgn), please have at it. The sooner it's finished, the sooner I'll be able to offload these records and get to adding more awards.

Aug 2, 2017, 5:21pm Top


I have Huxley's After the Fireworks, a novella. There is another edition containing After the Fireworks and various other stories. I separated the latter from the former and all is well except that the title for the former on this page still reads After the Fireworks and Other Stories. How do I go about righting this? Thanks.

Aug 2, 2017, 5:42pm Top

>21 bluepiano: Did you click the Recalculate Title/Author link?

Edited: Aug 3, 2017, 1:29am Top

>21 bluepiano: I have just removed the Canonical Title. You should add a disambiguation notice at least to the work that is only the novella.

Edited: Aug 5, 2017, 12:19am Top

These guys need Other Author-ing.
Dodo writes, Radis draws.

ETA: Likewise various Carlos Trillo collaborators.

And Cothias & Lax

Aug 5, 2017, 12:13pm Top

>24 davidgn: They're done I think.

Aug 5, 2017, 5:05pm Top

I suspect that, with the current server issues, this problem is not going to be easily worked, and in addition, I'm about to rush off to other things. Someone decided (or perhaps the autocombiner did it) that single issues of "Worlds of If" were the same as the Anthology.


ISBN is the anthology, and it looks like most of those are the anthology, including the potential covers, but a couple of them are not.

Edited: Aug 5, 2017, 5:25pm Top

>26 Lyndatrue: Separated the one entry that clearly was a single dated issue and recalculated the covers. No more covers for single issues seem to be in the anthology work. Except for the Amazon-suggested cover, probably the result of some crummy third-party reseller entry.


Do not follow your old link, it's stale and will force the display of a work/book combo that no longer actually exists.

Aug 5, 2017, 10:09pm Top

>27 Jarandel: Aw, shucks. You fixed it. Thank you. Now I just have to figure out where the cover flagging link is, so that I can go vote against my flagging of the cover. I keep thinking I saved the notes on how to get there, but I go there so seldom that it just doesn't seem to stick with me.

(Man, the site crashed HARD this time. I was really glad to see your post, and thank you again.)

Aug 7, 2017, 5:22am Top

I'd like to combine the separate author pages for Sáez, Juanjo into one (the page that has the author's picture). Can't figure how to do it. Please help

Edited: Aug 7, 2017, 5:31am Top

>29 drasvola: Over on the bottom right of the author page you see

Combine with…

No authors suggested.

Click on search, enter the name and continue from there.

But remember - if only some of the books belong in the combined author, you should split and alias instead.

Aug 7, 2017, 5:41am Top

>30 MarthaJeanne:

Thank you. Have done that. Have also combined his works.

Aug 7, 2017, 5:59pm Top

jjwilson61 and MarthaJeanne, thanks for help & advice re After the Fireworks. Have put up disambiguation notice.

Aug 8, 2017, 11:40am Top

I've wished, more than once, that there was a workbench for authors, but instead, I am here for help. I'd been talking about cover art (in another thread), and discovered that there were two entries out there for one of them.


I was about to combine them, but I suspect it matters which way, and I thought I'd ask here instead. It seems to me that Penalva (one word author) ought to be added into Jordi Penalva, so that Jordi Penalva remains, with Penalva then appearing in the "Includes the names..." line.

Is that a correct assumption? Actually, even if it is correct, may I plead for someone else to do it? Please?

Aug 8, 2017, 12:45pm Top

>33 Lyndatrue: Are Penalva and Jordi Penalva the same person? If not, they should not be combined. If they are they probably still shouldn't be combined since we don't generally combine last names with full names (think of the confusion that would result if Smith and John Smith were combined).

Aug 8, 2017, 1:54pm Top

>33 Lyndatrue: Jordi Penalva isn't the only author with that last name, even just counting those already existing on LT so, nope.


Aug 8, 2017, 1:58pm Top

So it sounds like you should split and alias. It seems odd to split an author which only has one works assigned, but I think that's the only way to get to the alias feature.

Aug 8, 2017, 3:42pm Top

>34 jjwilson61: and >36 jjwilson61: It might be that there are other authors with that last name (not an uncommon name), but the single work I'd pointed out with the single author named Penalva is by Jordi Penalva, and (to my knowledge) he's the only author of that name using a single name as identification.

Up to you (and others more experienced in this) though; it's why I asked others to help, rather than just doing it. Thank you very much for the help.

Aug 8, 2017, 3:51pm Top

>37 Lyndatrue: Whether or not an author him- or herself uses the family name alone as an identifier never stopped a member from just using the one name, nor has it ever stopped Amazon merchants.

Aug 8, 2017, 4:34pm Top

>36 jjwilson61: I didn't read what you'd written properly, first time out. I was hoping to see the two authors combined, in some way or other. The cover artist/illustrator named Jordi is also the same person that's responsible for the single work by Penalva (single name). I recognize that it's possible for multiple people to use a single name, but, in this case, the artist for "The Star Road" (by Gordon Dickson) is Jordi Penalva.

I only do the most trivial combining things when it comes to authors (or even works), and this is beyond what I'm willing to attempt.

Aug 8, 2017, 5:56pm Top

Split and aliased.

Aug 9, 2017, 9:25am Top


is the German version of this:

Do you know why it doesn’t show up on the author page?

Edited: Aug 9, 2017, 10:33am Top

>41 MissWatson: Combined.

Because of the two editions one had no author listed. You can fix things like that by recalculating (lower right of work page). You notice the work title and author at the bottom line of the book information box for books you own.

Aug 9, 2017, 2:21pm Top

>42 MarthaJeanne: Thank you, MarthaJeanne. I hope I'll think of that next time.

Aug 14, 2017, 1:26am Top

Thank you both for the information.
It's not nice, but if we have to live with it, it has to go...

Aug 14, 2017, 10:59am Top

Peter Wohlleben's page appears to need some work. His Wikipedia page shows only one published title, (in English) The Hidden Life of Trees with many translations. If someone more familiar with the Germanic languages would do the title combinations, please.

Beyond the wiki page, he's also written about animals and humans; and I can't find an official list of publications.

Aug 14, 2017, 11:20am Top

>49 The other works are publications in German that have not been translated. As far as I can tell, they are all distinct works.

Aug 14, 2017, 11:24am Top

>50 Okay, thanks!

Edited: Aug 14, 2017, 11:34am Top

>50 Yes, 99% sure they are separate works. Even those where the main title looks similar, the subtitles point to quite different topics.

Edited: Aug 15, 2017, 11:23am Top

>44 SirThomas:, >45 2wonderY:, >46 SimoneA: It may not be kosher, and it may be uncouth, but - FWIW - Richard Bachman is in fact now divided into one distinct Author, with "Richard Bachman-1" aliased into the Stephen King Disambiguation Page. As it happens, none of Bachman's books then needed reassignment to "Stephen King-1," I suspect because more than one of us holds similar expectations. Anybody else can undo it if they must, or I'll undo it myself if it's a problem. Thanks to y'all!

(ETA punctuation and syntax)

Aug 15, 2017, 11:34am Top

Again, who are you thanking and for what?

Aug 15, 2017, 1:53pm Top

>54 You, SirThomas, jjwilson61, and all the rest who care enough to devote time and energy improving LibraryThing. It may be imperfect, but it's still a darn sight better'n what me, myself and I came up with before, and I appreciate that too ... Keep it up!

Aug 15, 2017, 2:01pm Top

It's fawning.

Aug 15, 2017, 2:05pm Top

>56 You misspelled "you're welcome".

Aug 15, 2017, 2:33pm Top

>57 Why am I being thanked because she split an author and aliased the works away? Why should I say "you're welcome" to that? It's obsequious.

Aug 15, 2017, 2:46pm Top

I don't want to put words in her mouth, but my interpretation was that since all of the people she referenced in the post had contributed to the discussion of what should be done in that particular case, she was giving a general "thank you" for helping to work through the various issues and help her come to a conclusion that she then implemented. IF I'm right (and I may not be), it does seem that a simple "you're welcome" is appropriate to acknowledge that often decisions on these edge cases come down to a group consensus, which can't happen if folks like you and the other experts don't take the time to contribute your knowledge as you did here.

But if that's not your interpretation, that's certainly OK. I guess I would have defaulted in that case to simply not replying rather than replying in a way that seemed to discourage an attempt at civility. But that's just me.

Aug 15, 2017, 2:50pm Top

>59 That all sounds really good on the face of it, but it ignores the fact that she says Thank you! for no reason all the time, often after she herself has done the whatever, as in this case.

Aug 15, 2017, 3:29pm Top

Huh. Complaining about being too polite and too courteous. That's a new one.

Aug 15, 2017, 3:47pm Top

>61 I don't like being thanked as if I am a minion to a higher-up. It's unctuous.

Aug 17, 2017, 4:23pm Top

>62 Please accept my apology, if appropriate. And don't read what follows, if you don't have to.

I don't mean to give offense; that would be silly, counterproductive, and neither of us has (or should have) time for it. Maybe I'm too free, or too glib, about offering "thanks"; but that doesn't mean it's any less sincere. It comes easily and naturally to me, ingrained by nature and nurture, fundamentally part of who I am, part and parcel of honoring and respecting those I come in contact with. It's a way I was reared, a way of life. It's served me well, and I'm pleased to have passed it on to our kids.

To elaborate, when I offer thanks to someone, anyone, I'm generally neither aware of nor intend it as fawning, obsequious or unctuous; to do so would presuppose there's something they might give me, or do on my behalf, that they wouldn't otherwise give or do. Or I'm asking something that goes against their own best interest. There's a difference to my mind between "please" and "pleeeeeaaaaase!" Thankfully (there's that word again!), I've never knowingly wanted or needed to wheedle or cajole anyone for anything, especially not for something in our mutual self-interest, as LibraryThing is. Perhaps that just my prerogative showing.

To digress, I also freely and readily address others (minions and higher-ups alike) as "sir" or "ma'am." These stylistic, verbal practices no doubt come from the same antiquated time and place as "y'all," but they're important to me, and I'm stubborn enough to persist in their use, in spite (or maybe because) of knowing when, where, and how Dad got in Big Trouble for using them as a child. (They were required Down South; they were forbidden Up North.) I'm aware they sometimes give offense, but then I'm an equal opportunity offender. Given a choice, I prefer being too polite and too courteous.

To digress further, it's also interesting to me what presumptions (by which I only mean suppositions based on probability, not the audacious kind, and as opposed to "assumptions" - suppositions made out of whole cloth) we reach about each other based on limited information, knowledge and interactions. Yes, I prob'ly think I'm being cagey, and more clever than is warranted or good for me, in not sharing over-much personal details of myself. On the other hand, I've been confused, even accused, more than once of being someone I'm not. For the record, the last I checked (about 20 minutes ago), I'm still a cisgender, middle-class (middle-aged!), politically contrarian, WASP male, full of snarkasm, just enough suspicion of Native American ancestry to empathize with Elizabeth Warren, and an inner fantasy life that might've served James Thurber well to write a more compelling Secret Life of Walter Mitty.

Suffice to say, I'm grateful for LibraryThing, and for you, and I would express that. Often. First Amendment stuff, and All That Jazz ... If my thanks doesn't resonate for you, I'm OK intending it for someone else instead. (A third digression, if I may: My closest-friend-in-the-world-to-whom-I'm-not-married also objects to my free & easy use of "thanks." A student of Chinese language, life and culture, he considers that we're past it as "same house people," and not socially inferior or superior. We compromise with "(no) thanks," chuckle a bit, each know what the other means, and move on. Would it help if I say "thanks*" instead, and you can supply an appropriate negation or qualifier?)

For here and for now, I'll say "Best always, and take care."

Aug 17, 2017, 5:06pm Top

o, kak.

Aug 20, 2017, 5:44pm Top

>65 Done.

Aug 22, 2017, 6:47am Top

>67 Done

Aug 23, 2017, 10:31am Top

This isn't strictly a question about combining, well it isn't about combining at all, but these books have been listed as a series when they only thing they've in common is the publisher And Other Stories. Surely a publisher's list isn't the same as a series? or on LT, is it? Cheers.


Edited: Aug 23, 2017, 12:13pm Top

>69 "Publisher's Series" is a separate Common Knowledge field. I'll cross-post our separate thread at http://www.librarything.com/topic/150442#6154528, and suggest we move this Series to a Publisher's Series instead.

Aug 23, 2017, 1:12pm Top

I don't think Publisher's Series is meant to be a listing of all of a publisher's works, but only works that had been included in an actual series.

Edited: Aug 23, 2017, 4:32pm Top

>71 That's what I thought. 'And Other Stories' to be clear is the name of a publisher, not of a sub-set of its books. I suppose there might be a series called And Other Stories issued by the likes of Random House or Penguin, but the books I recognised on that series page were all issued by & Other Stories and so it's a partial 'publisher's list' rather than 'publisher's series'.

Aug 25, 2017, 11:57am Top

I'm thinking these are the same work, for combining:
https://www.librarything.com/work/157401 (English edition)
https://www.librarything.com/work/12035898 (Italian edition)

Aug 25, 2017, 12:01pm Top

>73 Yep, combined them and another stray copy.

Edited: Aug 29, 2017, 8:18am Top

Somehow this work has been separated into two, one of which is a zero-copy work... but the zero-copy work is the one with all the CK data and the recommendations!


I can't get them to combine, even with Workbench. I also tried setting a Canonical Author for the zero-copy one (it had no main author, even though it had three Other Authors), but that didn't help, either.

Edited: Aug 29, 2017, 10:26am Top

I've combined them, but there's a lot of what looks like incorrect CK on the resulting work: https://www.librarything.com/work/20055680/commonknowledge

Wait, what did I just do? That work is now a combination of Sorrows of Empire and Glass Empires.

Sorrows of Empire is now https://www.librarything.com/work/20055680
Glass Empires is now https://www.librarything.com/work/20153364

Someone else will need to clean up the CK... Stevil2001?

Edited: Aug 29, 2017, 1:56pm Top

I will fix the CK as best I can. I haven't read these books in a long time!

Sep 2, 2017, 11:36am Top

Would someone straighten out the following, from the author-illustrator Christine Price http://www.librarything.com/author/pricechristine which has a (1), (2), (3) and "unknown".

From the "unknown" list, the following should be moved to the (1) group: Legions of the Eagle; Cobblers' Knob; Made in Ancient Egypt; The Valient chatee-maker

From the "unknown" list, the following should be moved to the (2) group: Bats, Bats, Bats/Bats at Bat; Man in the Moon

Last, but not least, my books
The Unicorn Who Wanted to Be Seen http://www.librarything.com/work/1628442 and
A Traveler in Time http://www.librarything.com/work/90663/summary/8838771,
both illustrated by Christine Price should be in the (1) group, but are not for some reason.

Thanks in advance!

Edited: Sep 2, 2017, 11:48am Top

>78 She needed to be added/confirmed as an author at the work level. I and someone else put her as secondary, some editions author on each book so the works would show up on the author page.

If her role is more prominent or there are no versions that she didn't illustrate you might want to change that in the future.

Sep 2, 2017, 11:59am Top

Some of the works she's the illustrator and that's indicated as (illustrator)...I don't know how that's done, though.

Sep 2, 2017, 12:34pm Top

Go into 'Other authors' on the work page, and you can edit the information.

Sep 2, 2017, 4:05pm Top

Hmpfh, I thought I could fix this myself but I can't find the editing capability and it's been a while since I saw a combiner I could improve. So:

is a recent new translation of this:

also the author's page for the Yefremov name variant the first is under shows "Combination issues" under the Improve This Author sidebar (just that the data from the more known name variant needs imported), but again, I'm not seeing any edit/save buttons or links.

Whomever can touch this up, thanks!

Sep 2, 2017, 4:26pm Top

82> Someone else beat me to the combining. I got rid of the combining issues.

Edited: Sep 2, 2017, 4:52pm Top

http://www.librarything.com/work/4402611/covers/10696947 (Told Under the Christmas Tree) has an incorrect cover in the seven possible covers. Can someone remove it?

The incorrect cover: http://www.librarything.com/work/4402611/covers/10696947 (which is the cover for Told Under the Green Umbrella)

Thank you!

Edited: Sep 2, 2017, 5:00pm Top

>84 I've separated a copy of that title out. Hopefully that will clear things up over time.

Edited: Sep 3, 2017, 10:21pm Top

>84, >85 I've also flagged Told Under the Green Umbrella as an inapplicable cover for Told Under the Christmas Tree, then "voted up" my flag. If you go to the latter, select the inapplicable cover, and vote "Yes," I think you would advance the clearance process. Thanks.

Sep 6, 2017, 12:37am Top

Please separate...

White Sand, the book that Brandon Sanderson would email to fans on request... http://www.librarything.com/work/18316952/book/120107550


White Sand, the graphic novel series.... http://www.librarything.com/work/18316952/132957638

I know those links kind of go to the same thing, I don't know how to provide better links...

The ebook and the graphic novel are separate entities. The graphic novel is based on an unpublished book. On request, Brandon Sanderson would email this book as a word/text file to fans. However, he no longer does this as the graphic novel is being published. Though the graphic novel is based on the original book, there are changes and differences between the stories, such as one character being switched from male to female in the graphic novel.

Because of the differences inherent in their medium and the changes made to the story, it would be best to have two separate entries for these so that they can be discussed, reviewed, separately.

Thank you for considering this!

Sep 6, 2017, 4:00am Top

>88 I have separated out the editions that listed the title as White Sand, without further additions or ISBN. Based on covers, this should be a bit better. It may still not be ideal, as people might catalogue the graphic novel in that exact way. If they do, it will be impossible to separate the versions.

Sep 6, 2017, 8:24am Top

Somebody should add some disambiguation messages, or else they'll just get recombined.

Sep 6, 2017, 9:32pm Top

>91 Done.

Edited: Sep 8, 2017, 1:14am Top

re https://www.librarything.com/work/35757/135358593
Would someone please tidy up this Main Page for this work, Stolen Lives: Twenty Years in a Desert Jail
The author is Malika Oufkir
The co-author is Michèle Fitoussi
The translator is Ros Schwartz

I have it correct on my own listing of it. And the list of authors on the Main Page (2/3 of the way down, after the reviews) is correct, I think. I want the author listing at the top of the page to be correct. And the title! Even though I corrected the canonical title it was not changed at the top...eg there's still no punctuation, etc.

Thank you!

Edited: Sep 8, 2017, 2:08am Top

That link (https://www.librarything.com/work/35757/135358593) is to the book in lnmoser's library, and shows the details as that member has entered them - only that user can change their own data.

The main work page is https://www.librarything.com/work/35757/work/94629109 and looks correct (assuming that Michèle Fitoussi is a secondary author, not a main author).

Your copy is here at https://www.librarything.com/work/35757/details/94629109 - it's showing " (Oprah's Book Club)" in the title because that's how it's entered in your catalog, and you'll see that until you fix it on the Edit Book page. The Canonical Title doesn't override what you have in your own catalog.

Sep 8, 2017, 9:19pm Top

>94 thanks so much for fixing it, and the tips.

Sep 11, 2017, 7:10am Top


Sep 11, 2017, 5:37pm Top

>97 Thanks so much.

Sep 11, 2017, 8:13pm Top

Just discovered this author's page is messed up. It says there are 238 works. Well there are five, and most likely one of them is also false. The rest are called No Title with supposedly 13 copies each. All 233 of them. If you click on any one No Title, you discover it has zero copies.


Thanks for straightening this one out.

Edited: Sep 11, 2017, 10:35pm Top

>99 She has many more works than just 5, but it should look sane again, recalculating author/title on the 0-copies held by no-one chased all the phantom 13-holders books off the author page.

Sep 13, 2017, 9:49am Top

>100 Thank you! This is great.

Edited: Sep 15, 2017, 5:31am Top

That can be done from the author's page http://www.librarything.com/author/hamidmohsin by clicking on the author's name in the Improve this author box on the right. Just find the two copies in the list, tick the box by them, and click the Combine Works button at the top of the page.

It can also be done from either work's editions page - click Editions on the left of the work page to get to http://www.librarything.com/work/20236554/editions/146050178 then click (combine/separate potentials).

If you'd still like someone to do it for you, or if you have any other questions - just ask. This is a nice straightforward one to learn on.

Sep 15, 2017, 5:35am Top

>103 Thanks so much, I've done it.

Sep 15, 2017, 5:43am Top

>104 Yay! Another combiner is born :-)

Sep 15, 2017, 7:46am Top

>105 I only hope that I can remember the instruction next time. :-)

Sep 15, 2017, 9:51am Top

>106. You can "Star this topic" on top of this page to make it easier to find next time. :-)

Sep 15, 2017, 11:22am Top

>106 Or you can star individual posts by clicking "More" and then "Add to favorites".

Sep 15, 2017, 5:16pm Top

>107 >108 Thanks so much. I alread had starred this topic and have added it to favourites.

Sep 16, 2017, 3:36pm Top

http://www.librarything.com/work/10966078 and http://www.librarything.com/work/11461370/book/129296188, please. And thank you. (Have had no joy recalculating, trying to combine author name with itself, etc.)

Sep 16, 2017, 4:02pm Top

>110 Done. I had to use other authors to make the books both show on the author page. Workbench would also have worked.

Sep 16, 2017, 9:46pm Top

OK, I'm checking some books and combining and I come across this book:

A Concise Encyclopedia of Gastronomy


and in the editions, I see 2 copies (1 line) with the title, A Concise Encyclopedia of Gardening.

OK, am I hallucinating? someone having a joke? someone mistyped the title?

The author doesn't have a concise encyclopedia of gardening... not that I could quickly ascertain.

if it is a 'misplaced' book, feel free to separate the gardening from the gastronomy.

(too tired to think clearly)

Sep 16, 2017, 11:10pm Top

>112 It seems to be ratty data for the Gastronomy Encyclopaedia that's popped up in a few places, probably including Amazon that someone then imported from.


Sep 17, 2017, 11:22am Top

If you mean you added Willy Cabourdin, the editor, I should have thought of that.

I know this isn't a combining matter at all but the work just combined was dual language, and I'm idly wondering if there's any way to show on a book page that the book is in two or more languages on an equal footing? A surprising number of art books are trilingual--English, French, German--& whilst the writers' original language(s) can usually be sussed the book hasn't really a 'primary' nor 'secondary' (nor tertiary) language.

Sep 17, 2017, 11:41am Top

>114 You can always use 'Multiple Languages'. I prefer to use the two or three languages as primary, secondary, original to include them all, guessing one to call original and otherwise choosing by my usage of the languages involved.

Edited: Sep 17, 2017, 1:45pm Top

Oh jayzus I'm blushing in shame--probably, I mean I didn't look in the mirror to verify--because though I often use 'multiple' for original language, it hadn't occurred to me that it was an option for language of the book. Thank you so much. I shall try to be considerably more alert in future.

I have just got all these into a series with I hope the right edition numbers. I don't suppose someone else would be interested in combining the duplicates? http://www.librarything.com/publisherseries/European+Illustration

Sep 17, 2017, 3:51pm Top

Thank you so much, Jarandel!

Yes, I thought it might be ratty data from the data rats, but couldn't be sure. Thanks for the confirmation!!

Sep 18, 2017, 3:38am Top

>116 Done, with some renumbering.

Sep 19, 2017, 8:08pm Top


On this author's page, it appears that hundreds or thousands of Alice in Wonderland books are credited to her...she illustrated it, but of course so did many other people.

It would be great if someone wants to tidy it up.

Edited: Sep 20, 2017, 1:59am Top

>119 If you don't want to see Alice on the combine page you can click on the primary author only link instead of the general one.

>120 Done with workbench.

Edited: Sep 26, 2017, 9:39am Top

As a general comment on what looks like a major project, Marcel Proust's In Search of Lost Time, aka Remembrance of Things Past" is a complete mess as a series and every individual entry could use some serious combining efforts. This has probably been raised before, I'm curious what the issues are. I'd imagine different editions divide the work different ways, and I do realize several of the volumes go under a variety of translated titles; but it could surely be tidier than this?

It is typically divided into seven parts, published in six volumes and titled as follows:
1. Swann's Way (aka The Way by Swann's)
2. Within a Budding Grove (aka In the Shadow of Young Girls in Flower)
3. The Guermantes Way
4. Sodom and Gomorrah (aka Cities of the Plain)
5. The Captive (aka The Prisoner) & 6. The Fugitive (aka The Sweet Cheat Gone, aka Albertine Gone) (often published together, since both are fairly short alone)
7. Time Regained (aka Finding Time Again, aka The Past Recaptured)

Each instance on LT comes with multiple entries that need combining. Maybe after that, something can be done to clean-up the identified sequence.

Looking at the series page, for example, you can't presently find a listing for the complete second volume: https://www.librarything.com/series/In+Search+of+Lost+Time

Complication: although I've said 'typically', some of these seven may also be found sub-divided (e.g. Swann's Way Part One and Part Two).

Edited: Sep 26, 2017, 2:17pm Top

>122, required combination cleanup for the first volume, Swann's Way:

#1: Swann's Way (complete first volume)
http://www.librarything.com/work/15166985 (I suspect this Lewis fellow is a translator?)
http://www.librarything.com/work/6837502 (author's name has an ugly merge with translator's)
http://www.librarything.com/work/19593335 (Spanish edition)

#2: Swann's Way (Part I)

#3: Swann's Way (Part 2)

Sep 26, 2017, 3:26pm Top

>123 Wow.

If any suggestions for the scope, format, structure or organization of this Herculean feat would help, consider what we've built up over recent months and years for The Lord of the Rings. For reference, it's an ongoing process; all assistance is greatly appreciated. Be sure to come back here with any questions, or propose specific, helpful tasks that would support the overall effort.

Thanks & good luck!

Sep 27, 2017, 2:19pm Top

Despite a Disambiguation Notice, an Italian copy of Gladiator (Il gladiatore, plus review) has become attached to Scott Ridley instead of Ridley Scott. Please could someone do the honours. Many thanks.

Scott Ridley
Ridley Scott

Sep 27, 2017, 2:31pm Top

>125 Combined works. Disambiguation Notices can't stop people from making mistakes in entering their copies.

Sep 27, 2017, 6:03pm Top

I added an additional author to a CD but the link goes to the disambiguation for that person. Since the author isn't the primary for that work, it isn't listed in the list of possible combinations (or I couldn't find it). Can someone help?
The work is Celtic Circle (www.librarything.com/work/16525320), and the author is John Williams (3) (www.librarything.com/author/williamsjohn-3)

Sep 27, 2017, 6:30pm Top

>127 You had added the author on your copy, but not confirmed it on the work. I have done so for him, but I suggest that you do so for the others. You will find the other authors area on the main work page.

Sep 27, 2017, 6:41pm Top

>127 Not sure what the problem is, or someone already sorted it ? Following "John Williams" from the work page for that CD lands on John Williams (3), and the work shows in his "Also by" section as it should for a secondary author. Roped in a couple strays while I was looking around.

Sep 28, 2017, 12:36pm Top

I added a cover for my book
Then I created the series to which it belongs
but for some reason the cover image does not show up on the series page, even though I have the only copy of it on LT.

Thanks for your help!

Sep 28, 2017, 12:38pm Top

>128 I'm not sure what you mean by "confirming it on the work." And when I click on the link to John Williams on the book page it still brings me to the disambiguation page, so I don't know what you fixed either.
I have been trying to clean out the unknowns of the dead/alive and gender of authors stat pages and have found that many links go to a disambiguation page. When I investigate, I realize that these are additional authors of books in my library and I have no idea how to attach a secondary author to the right author page.

Sep 28, 2017, 12:59pm Top

>131 When you own at least one copy of the work you're looking at, the website defaults to showing you the data for your specific copy.

There's a work level page that is the one displayed to non-holders of the work, it can be reached through one of the right-hand links ("Work-only work page"). That's where you can validate the author(s) and their role(s), which will make the work appear on author pages, where it can be attributed to a specific author if the page is split.

Edited: Sep 28, 2017, 1:54pm Top

>130 Hit "Recalculate cover" in the far right column, and the covers will update at the work level. I think this happens automatically at some interval, but by pressing the link you force LT to do it. (I already did it for you on this work.)

Edited: Sep 29, 2017, 7:10am Top

Sep 29, 2017, 3:22am Top

>134: Done

Sep 29, 2017, 6:41am Top

>132 bnielsen: Thanks! This allowed me to combine some works where the source I'd added from credited the graphic artist rather than the author of the story as "primary author". Now I wonder how many of that kind of wotks I have, so I'll probably be busy for some time with this :-)

Sep 29, 2017, 1:50pm Top

>132 bnielsen: >136 Thanks also, and I will be going thru my stuff as well!

Edited: Sep 29, 2017, 4:13pm Top

>130 supersidvicious:, >131 Nicole_VanK: To elaborate using the Work in post 127 above, the Work-level record is


and masterdeski's individual copy is


Note ".../book/#########" at the end of the individual copy URL. For each Member's individual record of any given Work, this format refers to particular details of that Member's individual copy, and it's the Member's default view. Aggregate or calculated information applicable to all Members' copies of the Work is stored at the Work level, and viewed from the Member's "Work-only work page" at ".../work/#########." And the cover for SaintSunniva's individual copy of the Work in post 130 above is at still another URL, http://www.librarything.com/work/20290141/covers/146444664.

So that's (at least) four ways we could look at every Work on LibraryThing. No wonder I get confused sometimes ...

Sep 30, 2017, 4:49pm Top

Even though there is a note on Stephanie Meyer's author page saying she is not the author of the Twilight Saga there are still Stephenie Meyer books and I am not able to fix it right now.


Sep 30, 2017, 5:04pm Top

>139 Done.

Edited: Oct 1, 2017, 8:14pm Top

Any advice?

I'm not sure if this is an issue that needs untangling or if it is even possible but I stumbled on the following when entering an alternative version of a 'Father Brown Mysteries' omnibus

> The Complete Father Brown Mysteries

It currently shows two different series annotations (for both 50 and 51 stories) plus three different disambiguation notices (where the editions seem to have been combined anyway) and lists four canonical titles under CK?

There are apparently various omnibus editions including anywhere between 50 and 53 stories.

The 53 story omnibus has the additional work published as 'Uncollected Stories' which includes two extra stories but some editions of this would already appear to be combined with the above anyhow?

> Father Brown Mysteries

I'm not sure whether to combine the above item with all the others in the first work or attempt to separate out the various versions?

However, where no ISBN is shown against an edition I can't see how it would be possible to work out which editions include what.

If it doesn't really matter would it be simpler to amend the disambiguation to say that the complete omnibus work includes all variants containing the five main works and those including the additional stories?

The disambiguations on the existing record show as

1. This omnibus "work" contains ALL of the 50 short stories originally published in the first five individual collections of Father Brown stories issued between 1911 and 1935. Note that the fifth "Scandal of" collection was originally published in 1935 with only 8 stories; The Vampire of the Village short story wasn't initially published until 1936 so it was only added as a ninth story to later editions of the "Scandal of" collection. However, "complete" omnibus editions of the FB canon did not include that story until many years after it had been added to "Scandal of". Hence this "complete" omnibus is a DIFFERENT work to later "complete" omnibus editions containing 51 or 53 short stories. Additionally, the UK "complete" omnibus edition did NOT count the "framing" text at the beginning and end of the "Secret of" collection as actual stories while the comparable US edition did, so 48 complete stories in UK eds. = 50 complete stories in US eds.

2. This omnibus "work" contains ALL of the 51 short stories originally published as The Innocence of FB (12 stories), The Wisdom of FB (12 stories), The Incredulity of FB (8 stories), The Secret of FB (10 stories) and The Scandal of FB (originally 8, later 9 stories). Please note that this "complete" omnibus is NOT the same as the "complete" omnibus edition containing 2 additional FB stories (for a total of 53 stories) so please DO NOT combine it with that one or any other common omnibus editions of FB short stories that contain less than 51.

3. This omnibus "work" contains ALL of the 53 short stories in the Father Brown canon; the 51 stories originally published as The Innocence of FB (12 stories), The Wisdom of FB (12 stories), The Incredulity of FB (8 stories), The Secret of FB (10 stories) and The Scandal of FB (originally 8, later 9 stories) plus The Donnington Affair (1914) and The Mask of Midas (1936) that normally are not included in other "complete" omnibus editions. Please DO NOT combine it with that one or any other common omnibus editions of FB short stories that contain less than the full complement of 53 stories.

Sorry - 'head is now full' ...

Oct 5, 2017, 6:03pm Top

These two authors need combining (won't let me for some reason):

Oct 5, 2017, 6:19pm Top

>142 Done

Oct 6, 2017, 9:13am Top

>143 Thanks!

Edited: Oct 8, 2017, 5:59pm Top

I suppose it's just, barely possible that there's someone working in an ad agency who's also a businessman/computer expert interested in weapons and who's also a part-time archaelogist whose avocations are novel-writing and the study of spiders and scorpions. It's just as hard to believe yet I know much more likely that someone in this group might want to deal with Tim Williams: https://www.librarything.com/author/williamstim.

Edited: Oct 14, 2017, 10:33am Top

I have this book listed :

5432. Happy Days Are Here Again The 1932 Democratic Convention, the Emergence of FDR--And How America Was Changed Forever, by Steve Neal (read 16 Dec 2016)


but neither under the title nor under the author is there any reference to the fact that I have it. Why is that?

Well, I figured it out: I show the author as Steve Neal, which is the way his name appears in the book I read, whereas the others have the author as "Steven Neal". Can someone smart, unlike me, combine Steve Neal and Steven Neal, since they are undoubtedly the same person? I don't want to change my listing since the book does list the author as Steve, not Steven. Thanks.

Oct 14, 2017, 11:05am Top

>146 Combined.

Oct 14, 2017, 11:39am Top

Thanks much, Jarandel.

Oct 17, 2017, 7:41pm Top

>149 Combined them, except the last one someone else seems to have gotten to first.

Oct 21, 2017, 2:38pm Top

Hi, I have a number of books illustrated by Helene Carter, but most of them do not show up on her author page for some reason, even though they've been on LT for months or years.
Her author page http://www.librarything.com/author/carterhelene
Books showing her as illustrator:

Also, on the author's page it boldly proclaims her as the author of Swallows and Amazons (which is really by Arthur Ransome), so today I added a disambiguation notice...but it would be good if someone could remove that erroneous statement "Author of Swallows and Amazons".

Thank you!

Oct 21, 2017, 3:13pm Top

> 151, While you're at it...here's another title illustrated by Helene Carter,
https://www.librarything.com/work/1261585/summary/147370192 (The Gulf Stream by Ruth Brindze)

Thank you.

Oct 21, 2017, 3:25pm Top

>151 in the work that is not showing on her page, go to the section called Other Authors, click on add other authors, then in the box click on calculate from other members books or something, then confirm her as illustrator on some editions.

Oct 22, 2017, 9:03pm Top

>153 thank you ... but I brought this here so someone else could do it, not me.

Edited: Oct 22, 2017, 10:50pm Top

>154 You said but most of them do not show up on her author page for some reason, even though they've been on LT for months or years. The "some reason" is that it's a manual process, not automatic, so JerryMmm was trying to be helpful by explaining that process. Stuff like contributor data only gets better if the people who are experts on it help it get better.

Oct 23, 2017, 1:15pm Top

>151 Stevil2001:, >152 jasbro: I think these are straightened out now. Please advise if that's not the case. Thanks!

Edited: Oct 31, 2017, 10:41am Top

I'm pretty sure that the graphic novel (Vol 1) and the book for Dean Kootz's Prodigal Son have been combined into a mess, but I'm not even sure where to start: https://www.librarything.com/work/4200/editions/98386980

ETA: I think I can find the badly combined using "Chuck Dixon" as a starting point...

Nov 2, 2017, 9:27pm Top

anyone else having combinations taking much longer than last year?

Nov 4, 2017, 3:34pm Top

>158 Everything seems to take longer for the past week or so.

I wish I were smarter in this, but I don't do it often enough, so I'm asking for someone to do this for me. I just added a book, and was amazed and pleased to see how many other people had it. The amazement didn't last long; the second author needs cleaning up.



In order:

The first two works, listed under author 1, are the same book, and should be combined. I can do that, once the authors are straightened out, but don't want to do it until the larger issue is fixed. The book I just added (currently in unknown) belongs to the first author. The other two books in unknown belong to author 2 (the second and fourth entries are the same work).

I think that's it.

The first author also needs splitting (he was never a medical doctor, and didn't write the third book listed). I have several interesting links for him (the jewelry expert) once this is all straightened out. I'm not often drawn to coffee table kinds of books, but this one is very beautiful.

Thanks in advance. :-}

Edited: Nov 4, 2017, 4:21pm Top

>159 I think it's sorted ? Attributed the jewelry and the filk, split Sataloff.

Nov 4, 2017, 6:00pm Top

>160 It's perfect, and thank you very much for your work.

Nov 9, 2017, 8:40am Top

I recently acquired a book by Arthur Conan Doyle which contains two novels, The White Company and Sir Nigel: http://www.librarything.com/work/212362/book/147780636

It autocombined into this work:

But I think it should be combined here:

I’m not comfortable with the new workbench and a little scared of messing things up. Your help would be much appreciated.

Edited: Nov 9, 2017, 9:27am Top

>162 Got it! BTW, this did not require the workbench. The 'tricky' bit was finding the right edition to separate out. Then the combination was suggested on the editions page.

Nov 10, 2017, 7:06am Top

>163 Thank you so much!

Nov 10, 2017, 7:56am Top

I also separated an abridged work out and put work to work notes in. This won't prevent false autocombinations, but will prevent combiners making mistakes.

Nov 11, 2017, 10:23am Top

@165: Combiners never make mistakes!!!

Nov 11, 2017, 10:36am Top

Then sometimes noncombiners try combining.

Besides, I know I have made mistakes now and again. Usually minor ones, and usually I have caught them and fixed them, but I love having these reminders and blocks to help prevent the next one.

Edited: Nov 11, 2017, 2:23pm Top

>166, >167 A hypothetical question for the Group: If I fully intend what I’m doing, and I proceed to do it with great confidence and self-assurance, then (quite often) recognize The Unintended Consequence of what I’ve done ... is it a “mistake,” or just another bad idea?

Nov 11, 2017, 2:50pm Top

>168 It's called a "learning experience" these days.

Nov 13, 2017, 2:42pm Top

Nov 13, 2017, 2:47pm Top

>170 Done.

Nov 13, 2017, 3:43pm Top

re https://www.librarything.com/work/2020241

Well...now I see what wasn't obvious before...there are two works with the same title (First ABC)...one is by Brenda Meredith Seymour (pink cover with delicate drawing). The other is a board book (bright yellow with a clown on the cover) published by Paradiso Publishing, or something close to that.

Seymour's book is not a board book.

Can you separate them somehow?

Edited: Nov 13, 2017, 4:25pm Top

It's not that simple, as the ISBN that Amazon gives as board book by Paradise press is listed in LoC and WorldCat as by Seymour published by HZ Walck.

A) http://www.librarything.com/work/20646444 is all copies listed as Seymour. Note that the cover lists her as illustrator. Publisher Walck or Lutterworth, depending on ISBN according to WorldCat.

B) http://www.librarything.com/work/2020241 is books listed as Paradise press.

C) http://www.librarything.com/work/20646505 has no author listed. The ISBN that is questionable. Both copies are private.

D) http://www.librarything.com/work/1506296/editions
No author listed. Either no ISBN or yet another ISBN. Amazon gives same cover as B, but both Amazon and WorldCat give publisher as Hinkler.

Nov 14, 2017, 1:21pm Top

Cleaning up Paula Danziger's author page, I came across several French titles featuring Lili Graffiti. The covers make me think these may be Amber Brown stories. Googling doesn't give me any satisfaction. Does anyone else have a direction for researching? Or an opinion?

Edited: Nov 14, 2017, 1:41pm Top

>174 You can look the French title on Worldcat.org and it will often have the original one if it's a translation.

As an example, this one would seem to indicate that you're indeed correct in assuming they're translations : http://www.worldcat.org/title/lili-graffiti-fait-du-camping/oclc/936571726&r...
"Lili Graffiti fait du camping" was "What a trip, Amber Brown"

Nov 14, 2017, 1:42pm Top

>175 Great! That's just what I needed. Thank you.

Nov 14, 2017, 2:11pm Top

I agree. WorldCat is usually the best bet.

If it's not there, you might be lucky, and find something on LT. Try the work details page for the copy with more members or CK original title. I try to fill that in for translations I enter if I can't combine them.

Edited: Nov 15, 2017, 1:12pm Top

>175, >176, >177 I've had some luck identifying translations through a simple Google search of foreign titles plus authors' names, for example "Lili Graffiti fait du camping" and "Danziger" (but I haven't tested that one). Online reviewers, retailers, author bio sketches, even Wikipedia, will often make - or at least suggest - connections between translated editions and their original titles. Of course, I sometimes cycle through a number of foreign language sites that I can't decipher; I'll occasionally cut and paste content from a foreign site to Google Translate, to confirm what I think I'm seeing; sometimes it takes a little extra detective work, like matching previously identified cover art or reference to other foreign language editions if mine's also a translation; and I occasionally learn something of a foreign language to boot (not that I would remember or use it apart from the moment). It takes a few minutes, but the results can been just rewarding enough to tempt me to try again ... and again.

Nov 17, 2017, 6:03am Top

I was looking at Mervyn Peake this morning and it looks to me that there are two works for the whole Gormenghast trilogy: The Gormenghast Novels and The Gormenghast Trilogy. As they both have over a thousand copies I can't combine them anyway. Could one of the expert combiners have a look. please?

Edited: Nov 17, 2017, 1:03pm Top

>179 I'm well familiar with multiple editions of Gormenghast - taking a look at them now. Thanks!

ETA: Done, with lots of errant/stray copies recombined in the process.

Nov 18, 2017, 7:14am Top

Hello, ye. I've just separated later editions from the original 1983 Rolling Stone Encylopedia of Rock & Roll, ed. Pareles & Romanowski. I cannot bring myself to read that title one single more time, so would someone be interested in combining what I've separated?

Holly George-Warren was an editor only of later editions, of which I think there were at least 2 and whose titles/subtitles varied. This page isn't yet showing all the results of separation--there were more than 200 as I remember--but some are here: http://www.librarything.com/search.php?search=rolling+stone+encyclopedia+of+rock....

Nov 18, 2017, 7:18am Top

Should have mentioned, in case it's not obvious, that each edition would be substantially different to the others, enough to merit separate entires.

Edited: Nov 19, 2017, 8:49am Top

>182 Working on it.

Without limitation, it appears we have three editions:One record has Jon Pareles as editor, but the Third Edition cover. I've combined by Editor, then flagged the newer (red) cover image as not applicable. (This actually could have gone either way; apologies if I got it backwards.)

ISBN 0743201205 refers to the Third Edition, but three records associate it with the Second Edition Title. I've combined by Title, as likely more intentional than ISBN, then flagged the newer (red) cover image as not applicable.

Finally, ISBN 0684810441 refers to the Second Edition, but one record associates it with the Third Edition Editor, Holly George-Warren. I've combined by Editor, as likely more intentional, then flagged the older "New" cover image as not applicable.

Comments? Thanks.

ETA: Added Disambiguation Notices too, with thanks to Stevil2001.

Nov 18, 2017, 3:49pm Top

>183 It looks good to me.

I added work-to-work relationships to reduce the chances of careless recombining.

Nov 19, 2017, 9:37am Top

Comments: Y'all are good, real damned good. Preciate it.

Edited: Nov 19, 2017, 10:51am Top

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Nov 19, 2017, 10:50am Top

good idea! I added some disambiguation notes

Nov 20, 2017, 1:30pm Top

I'm just getting to OLD for this. I flagged a cover earlier this morning, and then looked a bit closer. The cover is correct on the work. The problem is that someone went in and combined a bunch of Hans Orberg works together. The cover flagged was for the CD (which is what 2012 has), but that CD has editions from just everywhere, and everything.


It makes me want to stab my eyes in frustration. It must be Monday; there's no other explanation. Here's my own copy of the CD (apparently it was released again, later on, with the fancier title):


Here's the work in 2012's catalog (all thrown together with any number of other works):


Help? Please?

Nov 20, 2017, 5:30pm Top

>188 I'm unsure what we want to happen with these Works. Can you clarify or elaborate?

Edited: Nov 20, 2017, 6:20pm Top

>189 There are at least four or five separate works in their, all combined into one. There's the CD (which appears to be part of the problem, since it's using an ISBN which seems to be wrong, or at least, to also belong to a book: 8790696085). The CD that 2012 has is probably the one that runs on Windows, where mine is the one that runs on MacOS.

The entries having "Interactive" in their title are certainly the CD for Windows. Both of them have that ISBN (8790696085) attached. The sad thing is that there are two others that also have that ISBN, and they're books (albeit one is a zero copy). BTW, I don't think I've ever seen the "Other" in bold on editions; they're on just the three with that ISBN; the two CDs, and the book.

I suspect that most of the other books all belong together. I note that most of the truly wrong ones are zero copies (such as the Latin-Spanish vocabulary). Also, my head hurts.

Nov 20, 2017, 6:37pm Top

But if the content of the work is the same shouldn't it not matter whether it's a Windows or a MacOS CD? Or am I missing something?

Nov 20, 2017, 8:34pm Top

>191 I suspect they're probably the same. Besides, both are EOL (End Of Life) as far as updates go. They have such different names than the original CD (which seems odd). Then again, there's only really two of them (the Windows version) and four of the other (the MacOS version), so I'm sure it makes perfectly good sense to put them there.

They even have the same copyright date (2006).

Nov 21, 2017, 5:19am Top

>193 Done.

Nov 24, 2017, 5:43pm Top

>195 Done!

Nov 25, 2017, 4:37pm Top

>197 Done.

Edited: Nov 25, 2017, 6:41pm Top

Here is the link for a book, Three Popes and the Jews, which I have just entered:


I do not know why it is not with the page for that same book:


Can someone put it with the others and tell me why it did not go there when I entered it? Did I do something wrong?

Edited: Nov 25, 2017, 6:50pm Top

>199 Done. It will only autocombine if there is an identical entry already in the work. Title, author and ISBN have to match. In this case, you were the first person to enter an ISBN. The computer recognized that they probably were the same and suggested the combination, so it was easy to do.

You did not do anything wrong. It worked as designed. Each new 'edition' has to be manually combined, so books with only a few copies on LT often need combining. Books with more copies will already have many possibilities combined in.

Nov 26, 2017, 11:50am Top

Thank you, MarthaJeanne.

Edited: Mar 28, 6:43pm Top

With that, this thread is CLOSED. Please continue our discussions at Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #78 -- http://www.librarything.com/topic/276061. Thank you!

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