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Familyhistorian's Year of History and Mystery part 10

This is a continuation of the topic Familyhistorian's Year of History and Mystery part 9.

75 Books Challenge for 2017

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Salt Lake City

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Little Free Library

Number culled in February - 6

Number culled in March - 10

Number culled in April - 3

Number culled in May - 4

Number culled in June - 5

Number culled in July - 1

Number culled in August - 5

Number culled in September - 5

Number culled in October - 4

Number culled in November - 1

Total 2017 culls

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My name is Meg and I love reading, especially histories and mysteries. This is my fifth year as one of the 75ers. It is great to find out what other people are reading but very dangerous, beware of flying book bullets! I keep myself busy with research and writing and hope to uncover more mysteries in family history this year.

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Challenges I will do my best to partake of in 2017

American Author Challenge

January- Octavia Butler - Wild Seed - DONE
February- Stewart O' Nan - A Prayer for the Dying - DONE
March- William Styron - The Confessions of Nat Turner - DONE
April- Poetry Month - The Silence Now by May Sarton - DONE
May- Zora Neale Hurston - Dust Tracks on a Road - DONE
June- Sherman Alexie - Flight - DONE
July- James McBride - Song Yet Sung - DONE
August- Patricia Highsmith - A Game for the Living - DONE
September- Short Story Month - The Last Drive and other stories by Rex Stout - DONE
October- Ann Patchett - State of Wonder - DONE
November- Russell Banks
December- Ernest Hemingway

British Author Challenge

January: Irish Britons – Elizabeth Bowen & Brian Moore - A World of Love by Elizabeth Bowen - DONE
February: Science Fiction & Fantasy – Mary Stewart & Terry Pratchett - The Ivy Tree by Mary Stewart - DONE
March: A Decade of British Novels: The 1960s - 10 Novels by Men; 10 Novels by Women - The L-Shaped Room by Lynne Reid Banks - DONE
April: South Yorkshire Authors: As Byatt & Bruce Chatwin - The Biographer's Tale by A.S. Byatt - DONE
May: Before Queen Vic: 10 Novels written prior to 1837
June: The Historians: Georgette Heyer & Simon Schama - Beauvallet by Georgette Heyer - DONE
July: Scottish Authors: D.E. Stevenson & R.L. Stevenson - Miss Buncle Married by D.E. Stevenson - DONE
August: Britain Between the Wars: Winifred Holtby & Robert Graves - South Riding by Winifred Holtby DONE
September: The New Millennium: A novel chosen from each year of the new century
October: Welsh Authors: Jo Walton & Roald Dahl - James and the Giant Peach by Roald Dahl -DONE
November: Poet Laureates: British laureates, children's laureate, National Poets
December: Wildcard: Elizabeth Gaskell & Neil Gaiman

Canadian Author Challenge
January : Anne Michaels & Robertson Davies - Fugitive Pieces - by Anne Michaels - DONE
February : Madeleine Thien & Rohinton Mistry
March : Anne Hebert & Alistair McLeod - No Great Mischief by Alistair Macleod - DONE
April : Magaret Atwood & Guy Vanderhaeghe - The Englishman's Boy by Guy Vanderhaeghe -DONE
May : Louise Penny & Leonard Cohen - The Murder Stone by Louise Penny - DONE
June : Heather O'Neill & Dan Vyleta - Lullabies for Little Criminals by Heather O'Neill - DONE
July : Carol Shields & Wayson Choy - Jade Peony by Wayson Choy - DONE
August : Ruth Ozeki & Douglas Coupland - Souvenir of Canada by Douglas Coupland - DONE
September : Lori Lansens & Steven Galloway - The Girls by Lori Lansens - DONE
October : Alice Munro & Arthur Slade - John Diefenbaker: An Appointment With Destiny by Arthur Slade - DONE
November : Gil Adamson & Guy Gavriel Kay
December : Donna Morrisey & Wayne Johnston

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More Challenges

The 2017 Non-fiction Reading Challenge

January: Prizewinners - Liberty's Exiles: American Loyalists in the Revolutionary World by Maya Jasanoff - DONE
February: Voyages of Exploration - Road to the Isles: Travellers in the Hebrides 1770-1914 by Derek Cooper - DONE
March: Heroes and Villains - The Jack the Ripper: Whitechapel Murders by Kevin O'Donnell - DONE
April: Hobbies, Pastimes and Passions - Family Matters: A History of Genealogy by Michael Sharpe - DONE
May: History - A History of Scotland: A look behind the mist and myth of Scottish History by Neil Oliver - DONE
June: The Natural World - Corpse: Nature, Forensics, and the Struggle to Pinpoint Time of Death by Jessica Snyder Sachs - DONE
July: Creators and Creativity - Falling Backwards by Jann Arden - DONE
August: I’ve Always Been Curious About…. - The King's Grave: The Discovery of Richard III's Lost Burial Place and the Clues It Holds by Philippa Langley & Michael Jones
September: Gods, Demons and Spirits
October: The World We Live In: Current Affairs
November: Science and Technology
December: Out of Your Comfort Zone

Reading Through Time


January-March 2017 - Renaissance/16th century - Beauvallet by Georgette Heyer DONE
April-June 2017 - 17th century - Trapped at the Altar by Jane Feather DONE
July-September 2017 - 18th century - The Silent Boy by Andrew Taylor DONE
October-December 2017 - Napoleonic Era


January 2017: First Encounters - Scotland Farewell: The People of the Hector by Donald MacKay - DONE
February 2017: Storico Italia - The Midwife of Venice by Roberta Rich - DONE
March 2017: Meeting Madness - Agatha: The Real Life of Agatha Christie by Anne Martinetti, Guillaume Lebeau & Alexandre Franc - DONE
April 2017: It's a Family Affair - My Dark Places by James Ellroy - DONE
May 2017: Oh What a State of Affairs - A History of Scotland: A look behind the mist and myth of Scottish History by Neil Oliver - DONE
June 2017: Fight for your Rights - Triangle: The Fire that Changed America by David Von Drehle - DONE
July 2017: Viva La Revolución! - America Goes to War: A Social History of the Continental Army by Charles Patrick Neimeyer - DONE
August 2017: Art: Making it, Preserving it, Collecting it, Stealing it - Tom Thomson: Trees by Joan Murray - DONE
September 2017: Historically Significant Event The Contexts of Acadian History 1686-1784 by Naomi E.S. Griffiths
October 2017: Gothic
November 2017: Noir or Darkness
December 2017: Twisted Fairytales

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It's November, time to remember and then on to a new topic. Will it be inspired by my recent genealogy trips or something else? Check out my blog at A Genealogist's Path to History and see.

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Books read in 2017


The Leavers by Lisa Ko
Gallows View by Peter Robinson
State of Wonder by Ann Patchett
Lullabies for Little Criminals by Heather O'Neill
The Englishman's Boy by Guy Vanderhaeghe
The Lost Island by Douglas Preston & Lincoln Child
Otherwise Engaged by Amanda Quick
On What Grounds by Cleo Coyle
James and the Giant Peach by Roald Dahl

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Total 2017 acquisitions

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Books acquired in 2017


Scotland's Last Frontier by Alistair Moffat
Foul Deeds by Linda Moore
The Halifax Poor House Fire: A Victoria Tragedy by Steven Laffoley
Nova Scotia in your pocket by Stella McNeil
Anna's Secret by Margaret Westlie
On South Mountain by David Cruise & Alison Griffiths
Seeking Refuge by Irene N. Watts
Cold Earth by Anne Cleeves
The Lying Game by Ruth Ware
A Study in Scarlet Women by Sherry Thomas
In Farleigh Field by Rhys Bowen
night, night, sleep tight by Hallie Ephron
The Truth of Memoir by Kerry Cohen
Fearless Writing by William Kenower
The Essential Guide to Freelance Writing by Zachary Petit
The Best of Roald Dahl
Killer Pancake by Diane Mott Davidson
The Moonspinners by Mary Stewart
The Notebook by Nicholas Sparks
Battles in Britain Vol 1 by William Seymour
Battles in Britain Vol 2 by William Seymour
My Several Worlds by Pearl S. Buck
Old Square-Toes and His Lady: The Life of James and Amelia Douglas by John Adams
The Merchant Class of Medieval London by Sylvia L. Thrupp
Paper Shadows: A Chinatown Childhood by Wayson Choy
Civil War Soldiers: Their Expectations and Their Experiences by Reid Mitchell
The Whiskey Trails: A Traveller's Guide to Scotch Whiskey by Gordon Brown
The Fact of a Body: A Murder and a Memoir by Alexandria Marzano-Lesnevich
The Way to London by Alix Rickloff
City of Sedition: The History of New York City During the Civil War by John Strausbaugh
The Organized Mind: Thinking Straight in the Age of Information Overload by Daniel J. Levitin
An Edwardian Season by John S. Goodall
Written Off: A Mysterious Detective Mystery by E.J. Copperman
Blue Mind: The Surprising Science That Shows How Being Near, In, On, or Under Water Can Make You Happier, Healthier, More Connected, and Better at What You Do By Wallace J. Nichols
Elizabeth's London: Everyday Life in Elizabethan London by Liza Picard
The Year Canadians Lost Their Minds and Found Their Country: The Centennial of 1967 by Tom Hawthorn

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Reading Stats as of the end of October

Total books read 100

Fiction 69
Non-fiction 31

Female authors 64
Male authors 36

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Happy new thread!! Your book acquisitions are making me feel better about mine! LOL Lots of great books in the TBR pile and the recently completed category, too! Great shot of SLC up top.

Nov 7, 2:46am Top

>13 Berly: Thanks Kim. I did get carried away on the acquisitions in October. There aren't as many book related events in November so hopefully there will be less this month although some books did find their way into my suitcase from Salt Lake City.

Nov 7, 3:40am Top

Happy new thread, Meg.

I must say that I am so impressed by how well you have managed the BAC, AAC and CAC challenges this year. Bravo!

Nov 7, 3:45am Top

Thanks Paul. I must say that it has been especially challenging this year to keep up with the challenges. I'm not sure that I will continue them all next year as I need to read some of the books off my shelves but, then again, I may have more time to read - decisions, decisions.

Nov 7, 4:13am Top

>16 Familyhistorian: I tended to go drastically off track this year and I have struggled with the five challenges I was doing and I will be amazed if I finish them.

The main one is probably my Around the World in 80 Books challenge wherein I am at 32 out of 80 countries. Hopeless case.....almost!

Nov 7, 6:40am Top

Hi Meg and happy new thread.

Best wishes for Retirement now that all your big trips are out of the way.

Nov 7, 8:38am Top

Happy New Thread, Meg!

I think Salt Lake City is one of the most beautiful cities I have ever visited, and in a lovely setting. There is a good bookshop there, too. :-)

Nov 7, 12:28pm Top

Happy New Thread, Meg!

I join Karen in sending best wishes for your post-big-trips retirement. Nice photo of Salt Lake City up there. I haven't visited there since I was a young 'un.

Nov 7, 1:40pm Top

Happy new thread, Meg. Sounds like you had a very good trip to SLC. With all that (I understand) is available on-line these days, is there a lot more to be gained from the Family History Center itself? And is there a lot more in Salt Lake than in the local branches?

Nov 7, 2:09pm Top

Happy new thread, Meg!

Nov 7, 3:24pm Top

>17 PaulCranswick: That's the thing about planning, Paul. We tend to think the year in front of us will be like the year that we have just been through and it doesn't always turn out like that. Sometimes RL blindsides us when we are least expecting it. Good luck with your challenges. I also am pursuing 5 challenges but none as ambitious as around the world in 80 books. Why don't you make that a challenge that runs over two years?

Nov 7, 3:26pm Top

>18 karenmarie: Thanks Karen. I am working on the retirement thing and will see how it shapes up.

Nov 7, 3:30pm Top

>19 EBT1002: Salt Lake City is very pretty, Ellen. I was fascinated by the brown hills with no trees, definitely not what I am used to. I am not sure that I found the good bookshop although I visited a few and some books found their way into my suitcase.

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>20 jnwelch: Thanks, Joe. I loved all the travelling around but now it is time to get down to retired life. It actually was great to get back home and know that I can get into organizing although some of it will have to wait as the workmen are coming to put in the attic insulation on Thursday. Reorganizing the books in my bedroom will be a major project I can tell. I am just glad that I was away for part of the time between the inspection and the work because the piles of books spread around the room is disconcerting.

Nov 7, 3:43pm Top

>21 RebaRelishesReading: There is a lot online for family history, Reba, but there are definite advantages to going to the Family History Library in Salt Lake. Some films have not been digitized yet and some that have can only be seen at Family History Libraries anyway. There are also books on the shelves not readily available in other places. On top of that there are no other things to distract you from your research and, at least in my case, I was with a whole bunch of other family history obsessed people.

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>22 FAMeulstee: Thanks Anita. Have a great week!

Nov 7, 3:56pm Top

Hi Meg, happy new thread my dear. Hope you are having a good week dear friend and sending love and hugs.

Nov 7, 6:26pm Top

>29 johnsimpson: Hi John, the week is good so far although it is hard to get used to the chilly temperatures. The high is 6C. I hope you are back to your usual chipper self.

Nov 7, 6:58pm Top

Happy new thread!

Nov 7, 7:19pm Top

Happy new thread, Meg! I like that Salt Lake City topper. Never been to that fair city.

Nov 7, 7:19pm Top

By the way, I ran across It's All Relative: Adventures Up and Down the World’s Family Tree. Thought you might be interested.

Nov 7, 9:41pm Top

>25 Familyhistorian: "...some books found their way into my suitcase."
Well then, you found whatever bookshop you needed to find. :-)

Nov 8, 1:54am Top

>31 drneutron: Thanks Jim. >33 drneutron: Ohh, It's All Relative: Adventures Up and Down the World's Family Tree looks interesting. I am now number 12 in line for a hold that is on order at my library. Thanks for that!

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>32 msf59: Salt Lake City is interesting, Mark. They do have a strange relationship with alcohol and coffee (and tea for those of us who miss it when it isn't there). You will be happy to know that they have beer in the grocery store but, sadly, no wine and no wine or beer in some of the restaurants. Great scenery though.

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>34 EBT1002: Well, I actually found 3 bookshops and had room in my suitcase for books as I packed a winter coat and boots knowing the weather I was coming back to. Those books just slipped right in there. What was the name of the bookshop you were thinking of? Maybe I missed one that I should check out next time.

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>37 Familyhistorian: That is so nice of you to provide a home for those runaway books! LOL. So glad you had fun on your trips. Now it is time to start another stage of retirement and I wish you lots of fun with that, too! Glad the attic will be insulated--don't want the books to catch cold. ; ) Good luck with the sorting afterwards.

Nov 8, 7:17am Top

>33 drneutron:, >35 Familyhistorian: - Meg, I was sure I had mentioned this book before but now, I can't find where. The author will be here in Toronto later this month to speak about the book:


I don't think I will be able to make it that night as I may be having an out of town visitor that week and am not sure if she would be interested. But it sure does look good!

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>27 Familyhistorian: Interesting. One of my (sort of) goals for this year is to join Ancestry.com and see what I can find out about our families. I have quite a bit of information about my mother's family thanks to a cousin of hers who did a lot of research some years back but I'd like to know more and to know a lot more about the other branches. I'm no where near ready to go to SLC though :)

Nov 8, 1:31pm Top

Happy new one, Meg! Hoping your Wednesday is full of fabulous!

Nov 8, 3:20pm Top

>38 Berly: It is nice of me to provide places for all those books, isn't it Kim. There is more than just reorganizing the books that has to be done because of the insulation project. They are coming through a window of one of the front bedrooms, probably the one where my son shoved everything aside so he could put in his new computer desk. Cleaning up that spare room is my project for today - not what I had planned *sigh*. I think there is a lot of not planned stuff that comes up in retirement from what people have told me.

Nov 8, 3:24pm Top

>39 jessibud2: You did put the link to the talk about It's All Relative: Adventures Up and Down the Family Tree on my last thread, Shelley. I didn't make the connection with the talk and the book at the time, probably because I was in transit when you posted the link. Looks interesting, too bad you don't think you will be able to attend.

Nov 8, 3:45pm Top

>40 RebaRelishesReading: Travelling to SLC comes much later in the process, Reba. I started with family stories and tried to confirm or disprove them by the records that I found. You might want to read a beginner's book for genealogy research before you commit to an Ancestry account. Also, beware of the Family Trees on Ancestry. Some people just attach any name that they think would fit and publish it as an entry on a family tree. I ran into that when I was searching for the parents of my many time great grandfather who fought in the American Revolution. I just knew that those entries were too good to be true and they were.

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>41 Crazymamie: Thanks Mamie. Have a great day!

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>30 Familyhistorian:, Hi Meg, I am back to my usual chipper self after the slight blip over the weekend, we have had a good week so far and before Karen goes back to work on Saturday we are going to Skipton in North Yorkshire after we have dropped Rob at the station tomorrow.

We love this market town and I will be able to peruse some books and we hope that Emma's Apothecary have their Christmas display up and running so we can pick up another bauble for the tree. This has become a bit of a tradition with us and they always have some lovely baubles to choose from and it takes a while to select the right one.

Hope your day is going well my dear.

Nov 8, 4:43pm Top

Hi Meg, just checking into your new thread. I am really looking forward to next Tuesday, it's going to be fun actually meeting face-to-face!

Nov 8, 4:59pm Top

Thank you for that. I do know you shouldn't believe what you find in family trees unless you have documents to support it so I'll be careful. The cousin that did my mother's family was an FBI agent and his research was well documented. It's nice to have that to start from. My father's sister kept the family Bible up-to-date so I have that to start from and years ago I got my great-grandfathers' Civil War records. Beyond that, however, I'll have to just proceed carefully.

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Happy new thread, Meg!

I've found faulty info on Ancestry family trees for my family, too -- immediate family, where I absolutely know it's wrong, and some of it is a tad offensive. It's very annoying.

It's All Relative: Adventures Up and Down the World's Family Tree just arrived at our library, and it's in processing.

Nov 9, 12:59am Top

>46 johnsimpson: I thought you were feeling better, John. I hope that you and Karen have a fun trip to Skipton.

Nov 9, 1:00am Top

>47 DeltaQueen50: I am looking forward to our meet-up, Judy. You will be the first LTer that I have met in person.

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>48 RebaRelishesReading: It sounds like you have a great head start, Reba. It pays to have a closer look at the items that you have and try to get more background on them. My knowledge of US history is sketchy so I did some further digging to find out more when I ended up with my 3 x great uncles's civil war records. I really enjoy doing peripheral research to find out about their lives and tell the stories on my blog. Right now I am working on a story about my Revolutionary War soldier who ended up in Upper Canada - intriguing stuff.

Nov 9, 1:18am Top

>49 tymfos: Those faulty Ancestry family trees are very annoying. I haven't put up mine because I don't want other people putting false links on it.

Looks like It's All Relative: Adventures Up and Down the World's Family Tree is being processed at my library as well. It says it is "newly acquired."

Nov 9, 8:13am Top

Hi Meg!

>42 Familyhistorian: I think there is a lot of not planned stuff that comes up in retirement from what people have told me.

I'm just grateful that I now have the time to cope more easily with the not planned stuff. It would have had to be dealt with if I was working, making it more stressful.

Nov 9, 10:30am Top

>54 karenmarie: It was always a lot more stressful dealing with the unplanned stuff when I was working, Karen. But it has been pretty stressful even not working as I live in a strata and work is scheduled when they want it not when it makes the most sense for me. It always seems to come up when I have a trip planned. At least this time should be the last of being available for them to get into my unit for a while, I just hope they come early enough that I can make it to my evening meeting on time.

Nov 9, 4:06pm Top

>50 Familyhistorian:, Hi Meg, I am back to full health and we have had a really lovely day in Skipton my dear. Karen picked up some nice Christmas baubles and one for Amy and three great cushion covers with Christmas themes that were brand new but from a charity shop and cost the vast sum of 99 pence each. Whilst mooching around we picked up five books between us and I will read them all at some point.

Hope you are having a good week dear friend and send love and hugs from both of us.

Nov 9, 6:42pm Top

>56 johnsimpson: Christmas loot and books to boot! Sounds like you had a great time in Skipton, John, and good to hear that you are feeling better.

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102. The Spirit of Africville by The Africville Genealogy Society

When I lived in Halifax I heard things about Africville. Of course, that was after the settlement had been bulldozed in one of those impositions of social change that abounded in the '60s. I was told that the settlement was close to the dump, not that the dump had been sited there over 100 years after the settlement had been established. But that was typical of how the City of Halifax treated the settlement, denying them services such as electricity or a sewage system. The powers that be thought that the settlement was a slum which would be better eliminated than upgraded.

The book was written by the people of the settlement that was razed. The buildings may have been bulldozed but the spirit of Africville lives on because it was more than a settlement it was a community that had endured for about 150 years. That sense of community lives on, in part, because of the work of the members of the Africville Genealogy Society.

Nov 9, 7:14pm Top

Lovely picture of Salt Lake City, Meg! Glad you enjoyed your trip. Yes, living in a strata, it seems there is always something going on. Our place is going to need a new roof , likely next year. I'm okay with that, but I hope when it gets put to a vote , others are on board. My husband is on the strata board here, and we are trying to get ahead of the change of legalization of marijuana . No growing in your unit, undecided about where you can smoke - on common property or not? Will be put to a vote. I had not thought of all of the complications of legalizing pot. Personally I really dislike the smell!.

Nov 9, 7:17pm Top

>36 Familyhistorian: "They do have a strange relationship with alcohol and coffee. " Okay, I am out! Grins...

Sweet Thursday, Meg. Hope the week, along with your current reads, are going along fine.

Nov 9, 11:41pm Top

>59 vancouverdeb: I thought I was ahead of the game when I bought into a complex that had already had their roofs replaced. I was not aware that there are many, many other parts of the building that need to be replaced/repaired. I hadn't thought of the effect of legalizing marijuana on a strata, Deb. I don't know if it has been brought up in our strata. My insulation was done this morning, now I have to reorganize my closet.

Nov 9, 11:53pm Top

>60 msf59: There are restaurants that carry both alcohol and coffee, Mark, so you would be safe to visit. You just have to make sure that you don't go to an LDS restaurant. It is a pretty city so worth a visit.

The reads are going down slow this week but I have two holds to pick up at the library, so there is that. I hope your week is going well, your work load is light and the weather is on the warm and dry side.

Nov 10, 1:03am Top

Meg, the ramifications of the legalization of pot did hit me either until it was brought up at a strata meeting. I'm really glad that our professional manager guy seems to be very pro active and thoughtful. When you share walls etc., as you do in a strata , things like growing pot and smoking it outside are that much more important to us in strata. It will be discussed fully and voted on at our annual general meeting.

When we moved into our townhouse back in 2000, the place was re - roofed just a couple of years into the process - but it needs doing again. I'm told that roofing materials have improved and this time round the roof should last longer. We have not had to to any re- insulating in our place, but a couple of years ago we replaced all of the fences, which was no small endeavor, but they were quite quick about it. We've had a few piping issues out on common property - pipes bursting here and there and that has been not fun. But overall, I really love where we live. Nice neighbours, just 34 units and about 1/2 of the people are 50 plus , I'd say. We certainly have kids, but it's not a noisy place, nor so huge we don't know what is going on.

Nov 10, 1:49am Top

>63 vancouverdeb: I just bought in 2009 so the roof should last a bit longer, Deb. Hopefully they used the new improved roofing. Since I moved in, they replaced all the windows and repaired the building envelope and now the insulation. At least one unit had a pipe burst right in front of it. There are 58 units in the complex and lots and lots of kids (we live right next to a middle school and there is an elementary school a few blocks away.) But kids are not a big issue, bears are a bigger one. They just rebuilt all the garbage enclosures and, hopefully, that will take care of the problem - we shall see.

Nov 10, 11:04am Top

"strata"--I know what it means in terms of rocks or lasagna but I'm trying got figure out what it means in terms of housing. From the discussion it sounds like it is a condominium where units are stacked on top of one another -- right?

Nov 10, 3:20pm Top

>65 RebaRelishesReading: Ha, good guess but not right, Reba. It is building related but it is about how the buildings are run rather than how they are built. Strata corporations are used to run housing that it is owned by multiple owners, like condos or townhouses. Both Deb and I live in townhouse complexes. In my case there are 58 townhouses which all have different owners but there is common property like the grounds, fences, roofs, in fact anything which is on the outside of the building. We use a strata management company to manage our strata corporation which looks after common maintenance, in the most recent case it was improving the attic insulation in all 58 townhouses.

Nov 10, 4:20pm Top

>66 Familyhistorian: - Interesting, Meg. I also live in a townhouse with a setup like yours. I have not heard the term *strata* before, though. We have always been self-managed, with a locally voted board of directors who managed everything. Just this year, though, we voted in a new Board, a change I personally felt was a good move. The old board has been there forever and we were losing confidence in their ability to do a decent job with transparency about how they ran our affairs. Our new board has done a lot of research and homework and we have just recently (in the last month), hired a Property Management Company to take over. So far, it sounds ok. Interesting how different locations deal with similar setups

Nov 10, 8:17pm Top

So I live in a six-story building with about 90 units, each independently owned. We have a "home owners association" with a board of directors which is elected by the owners. The home owners association contracts with a management company to take care of the day to day operations of the place. At Chautauqua we have a townhouse in a group of 29 with the same arrangement: home owners association that contracts with a management company. So do I understand correctly that the management company is the "strata"? Or is it the home owners association?

Nov 10, 9:22pm Top

It's All Relative should arrive at my library this next week. I ordered it before I left town last week when I discovered it was available through our leased books program. I'll read it from the library and decide whether it's something I want in my personal collection permanently or not. If so, I'll order a copy for myself.

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Nov 11, 3:58pm Top

>67 jessibud2: On the wet, sorry, West Coast, we have been calling these set ups strata's for years. I can't imagine trying to manage our property with our own board of directors especially as here, real estate can get bought and sold fairly rapidly at times and, then again, there is that issue of empty units due to off shore investments. In some cases, it would be hard to get enough people to make up a board of directors, I would think. I much prefer the arm length management having been in a housing co-op where the treasurer made off with the funds.

Nov 11, 4:08pm Top

>68 RebaRelishesReading: The strata would equate to the home owners association, I guess, Reba. According to the Province of BC: A strata corporation is a legal entity with all of the powers of a natural person who has full capacity. This means that it can sue or be sued, enter into contracts and hire employees. The owners of the strata lots are the members of the strata corporation.

So it is something that is in place under BC law. Interestingly, a Google search on stratas shows that it is a concept that was introduced in New South Wales, Australia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strata_title is a Wikipedia article about strata title.

Nov 11, 4:11pm Top

>69 thornton37814: I am currently number 12 on the hold list for 3 copies which have not yet been processed, Lori. I hope that it is worth the wait.

Nov 11, 4:29pm Top

103. John Diefenbaker: An Appointment With Destiny by Arthur Slade

Arthur Slade was one of the authors for the CAC in October. His name was familiar because he was at the Surrey International Writer's Convention this year although I didn't attend any of his talks. He is best known for YA fiction.

John Diefenbaker: An Appointment with Destiny was definitely not fiction or YA. It was a very readable biography of the man who was Canada's Prime Minister from 1957 – 1963. In fact, the author was able to infuse Diefenbaker with a likeability that I was unable to perceive when I knew him as the leader of my country, but then there was a large gulf between us; he was older and I was very young, he was a Conservative and, even then, I was not.

Nov 11, 5:21pm Top

>71 Familyhistorian: - That is actually one of the main reasons we felt we needed the change. It's always the same handful of people on the Board (when we were self-managed) and no one else wanting the demands of the job.

Nov 11, 5:40pm Top

I was going to try to answer that strata question earlier, Meg , Shelley and Reba. I had not realized that the word " Strata " was not commonly used. Here's a link - https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/housing-tenancy/strata-housing/operating-a-strata/bylaws-and-rules/bylaws-and-rules-explained

A detached house can be designated as strata housing, if just the "drive in " area is on private property and is shared by 5 detached homes. I have a friend who lives in such a ' subdivision" . They have lovely 2500 sq ft home with a nice big back yard, but they share a central driveway with 4 or 5 other homes. I think strata is a legal term that is used in BC, though the vast majority of strata's are townhouses or condos.

Here is another link - https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/housing-tenancy/strata-housing/understanding-stratas/kinds-of-stratas

Shelley, I too am very glad we have professional management company . We have 6 people on the strata board, but without the work of Century 21, I don't think anyone would want to volunteer on the board.

Nov 11, 9:36pm Top

>75 jessibud2: That is a common story, Shelley. In any organization it always seems to be the same handful of people who actually end up doing the work. I hope the change makes things better for you.

Nov 11, 9:45pm Top

>76 vancouverdeb: Thanks for the links, Deb. I had no idea that stratas are so complex. Interesting. Before I read that I thought that all condos and townhouses were by definition, stratas but it looks like that is not the case.

Nov 11, 9:49pm Top

Me too, thank for the links, Deb. I had honestly not heard the term *strata* before. Interesting (if somewhat complicated!)

Nov 11, 9:56pm Top

>79 jessibud2: Stratas are a way of life in BC, at least in the Lower Mainland which is the only place that I have lived in this province. Come to think of it, most of the housing where I have lived in Canada has not been strata but, then, I have either lived in a house that I rented from the owner or have lived in a housing co-op (now that is another complicated housing arrangement.)

Edited: Nov 12, 1:24am Top

If your house is detached in B.C. , most likely it's not strata titled. The vast majority of detached homes are not strata titled. The friend I have that lives in bareland strata detached house - well, I would never have known if she had not mentioned it to me. I think the reason the developer had to register it that way is because it was built on an existing road and was just large patch of field that the developer than created 5 homes in, with one driveway in, but each home has it's own parking area / garage. If something goes wrong with the common area " driveway" - like a pipe bursting, or crack in the concrete, all of the owners have to pay for the repair. ( At least I think it is called bareland strata titled , as you mention, it does get complicated!

Here is what my friend lives in - " A single family home in a bare land strata development (“strata subdivision”) can look identical to the single family home across the street which is not in a strata corporation."

Nov 12, 3:17am Top

>81 vancouverdeb: Trust BC to make things complicated!

Nov 12, 3:37am Top

I feel like I've learned something, reading all the housing management approaches. Where I was in Edinburgh, because so many people live in flats the management of the communal areas is a tricky issue. Especially now with air b and b.

Hope that the insulation work is done quickly Meg and that you can spend some more time with your books.

Nov 12, 5:58am Top

Happy Sunday, Meg.

Nov 12, 7:10am Top

Happy Sunday, Meg. Hope you enjoying the weekend. We are getting a touch of winter here. It looks like it might rebound next week. Yah!

Nov 12, 11:03am Top

Strata title issues on condominiums and apartments are pretty much par for the course here, Meg. Biggest problem generally is that when the properties are properly re-surveyed generally the purchaser finds he was originally short changed by the developer who sold him a 2,800 sq ft condo and actually provided 2,680 sq ft.

Have a splendid Sunday.

Nov 12, 11:10am Top

>72 Familyhistorian: Yep, that sounds like the "hoa". Thanks for teaching me a new word and soothing my curiosity :) I googled it when you first used the word and what came up were all either proper nouns of companies/groups or were geological (at least the first ten or so). I'm guessing that reflects where the google search originated.

Nov 13, 1:02am Top

>83 charl08: Air b and b is a big problem in Vancouver as well. The rental vacancy rate is about 0.7 percent. In part this is because of air b and b as well as off shore investment which leaves empty units. Having stratas doesn't help the issue, unfortunately, but it probably makes the management of buildings run more smoothly with so many absentee owners.

The insulation work was done in to installments and has been completed, the reorganization is just in the beginning stages and taking a lot longer than I thought it would but maybe that is because I am making time for the books.

Nov 13, 1:03am Top

>84 Ameise1: Thanks Barbara, have a great week.

Nov 13, 1:04am Top

>85 msf59: I hope it rebounds before you take to the streets, Mark. The weather here is rain for the foreseeable future.

Nov 13, 1:08am Top

>86 PaulCranswick: I saw that there were stratas in your area of the world when I did my research, Paul. My you have big units if they are even just 2,680 sq feet. Our condos are generally smaller than that with many people living in 500 or 900 sq feet.

Nov 13, 1:13am Top

>87 RebaRelishesReading: You learned about a different way that property is dealt with and I learned that the way it is done on BC is different than a lot of places and there are other places across the world that also use strata titles. So I guess we both learned something, Reba.

Nov 13, 1:21am Top

104. No Word From Winifred by Amanda Cross

I love a good mystery and, while dated, No Word From Winifred was an interesting conundrum. Professor Kate Fansler was recruited to see what happened to Winifred. Was she dead or had she disappeared somewhere for reasons of her own?

With the help of her niece who wants to be her 'Watson', Kate uncovers clues through making connections the MLA conference, which she, so far, has managed to avoid although it is a conference in her own city and area of expertise. Literary clues are also helpful in the quest for Winifred. It was an interesting mystery which, in the end, was resolved.

Nov 13, 4:27pm Top

Hi Meg, I am slowly making my way through the threads and catching up with things over here. going back to a previous thread, congratulations on winning both of your silent auction bids and Yikes on the unexpected surprise of a black bear sighting as you got home.

Congratulations and happy retirement wishes! Sounds like you are doing a wonderful job filling your retirement days with things to do - conferences, lunches, walks, etc - and more time for genealogy research. In my pre-LT days I did some genealogy research but with working, I just cannot find the time. I am pretty sure I will go back to genealogy, but not before I retire. ;-)

Love the pictures you posted from your trip to Salt Lake City.

Happy newish thread, Meg!

Nov 14, 12:34am Top

>94 lkernagh: Hi Lori, good to have you visit. Retirement started off really well with lots of things to do, I kind of planned it that way. Now comes the hard part, trying to get myself into some kind of a routine so that I can get some of the things I want done. It is nice to get back to genealogy research. I had been doing a bit while writing my blog but now I will have time to get on top of the stories for the blog and also to take my research further. I also hope to get more other writing done.

It is hard to fit everything in when you are working. Good on you getting in to crafting. I used to do crafting before I got into genealogy. Although I am sure that you can combine the two especially if you are into scrapbooking.

Nov 14, 6:39am Top

Hi Meg!

Just a quick hello. I hope you can settle into a routine that makes you comfy. My routine got disrupted within 2 months of retirement, but I hope that with the end of settling Mom's estate and husband firmly and happily settled into his new job, the beginning of 2018 will allow me time to establish a routine that combines things that need to get done with things that I want to get done.

Nov 14, 8:43am Top

Well, some weather we are having lately! I can take rain, but this has been heavy rain and lots of wind. I think today is supposed to be rainy and windy too. sigh.

Nov 14, 12:04pm Top

>96 karenmarie: I hope that 2018 brings a new start for retirement for you, Karen, but it seems to me that you are well on your way to establishing your routine. Right now I am taking the beginning steps and will see how things pan out. At the moment I am working on getting my house in order because of all of those things I was going to "do later" when I was working. I am finally getting into reorganizing some stuff (and out the door for a lot of it.)

Nov 14, 12:06pm Top

>97 vancouverdeb: I am about done with the rain and wind, Deb. Last Friday was a nice break but then the forecast for two weeks of rain - disheartening.

Nov 14, 10:28pm Top

I had my first LT meet up today! Judy, DeltaQueen50, and I met so that she could pass on The Poisoned Chocolates Case. Thanks Judy. There may have been the names of a few LTers that came up in our discussion. Unfortunately, there is no photographic evidence of our meeting so you will have to take our word for it!

Nov 14, 11:56pm Top

I really enjoyed meeting you today, Meg and I hope you enjoy The Poisoned Chocolates Case.

Nov 15, 12:27am Top

>101 DeltaQueen50: It was fun, Judy. Thanks again for the book.

Nov 16, 10:49am Top

Hooray for the LT meet up! Judy was the very first one to hit me with a book bullet when I joined LT.

Nov 16, 3:25pm Top

>103 Crazymamie: My first LT meet up, Mamie. So cool! Yes, Judy has a deadly aim with those book bullets!

Nov 16, 4:14pm Top

105. Martin Luther King: The Peaceful Warrior by Ed Clayton

Early Reviewers

Martin Luther King: The Peaceful Warrior was an ER book and an updated version of the book that was published in 1964. It is a relevant today as it was then. The events which were significant to Dr King's cause were outlined in accessible prose, a result, no doubt, of the author's years of experience as a journalist.

I appreciated finding out the facts behind the myth. I now have a better understanding of Martin Luther King's crusade and the price that he and, those who supported him, paid to bring change.

Today, 2:00am Top

This has been a great week for me on the literary front. I had my first LT meet up. Great to meet Judy, DeltaQueen50, in person. Tonight I attended my first in person book club. Looks like that will be a fun group to join.

Today, 3:19am Top

Great that you had a meet up with Judy, Meg. And what did you read tonight at your in person book club? Or was it a planning meeting?

Today, 9:24am Top

Glad it was a good meetup! Next time pics... 😀

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