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Is this spam? #11

This is a continuation of the topic Is this spam? #10.

This topic was continued by Is this spam? #12.

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1MarthaJeanne
Edited: Nov 10, 2017, 6:10am Top

http://www.librarything.com/topic/233587#6241504
http://www.librarything.com/profile/alec33

New member, joined today, no books. The message itself is fine, but it looks like an attempt to push homework writing site. I flagged both, but left a note on the profile.

2gilroy
Nov 10, 2017, 4:22pm Top

Just as a quick reminder (since it doesn't seem to be coming over):

This is NOT the spam reporting thread.
This thread is for asking if something should or should not be considered spam. It is meant for questions and discussion.

The actual spam supporting thread is here: https://www.librarything.com/topic/273927

3MarthaJeanne
Nov 10, 2017, 4:50pm Top

I posted here in the hope that people would look a little more carefully and not just flag because I had posted.

4gilroy
Nov 10, 2017, 5:10pm Top

>3 MarthaJeanne: I know, that was for people not used to the spam fighters group.

5Helenliz
Edited: Nov 11, 2017, 7:36am Top

This has had a few flags. While it's outside accepted usage, I'm not sure it is spam.

https://www.librarything.com/topic/274810
https://www.librarything.com/topic/274809
both by:
https://www.librarything.com/profile/DrLeyHistorian
and in his own group:
https://www.librarything.com/groups/approvedbydrley

User has been a member for 3 years, so it might be a step outside bounds, rather than spam.

6gilroy
Nov 11, 2017, 7:38am Top

>5 Helenliz: I looked at that group, but said it was just someone spouting their opinions, even if not encouraging discussion. Didn't see it as spam, because he'd not pushing his own works (so far.)

7MarthaJeanne
Nov 11, 2017, 7:47am Top

One is by friends of his, though.

8Helenliz
Nov 11, 2017, 7:48am Top

>6 gilroy: I'd agree. The group and topics have been flagged a few times, so I thought I'd open it up to discussion. I've left a message saying he has been flagged and that he might like to read the T&Cs & clarify his position.

9Helenliz
Nov 11, 2017, 7:54am Top

>7 MarthaJeanne: go on then, where did you find that - I can't see it. What am I missing? (Answer: probably quite a lot, always keen to know more)

10MarthaJeanne
Edited: Nov 11, 2017, 8:04am Top

https://www.librarything.com/topic/274810

"But this wonderful book by my friends in ministry, John Hull & Tim Elmore,"

Of course, he hasn't bothered to enter the book.

11gilroy
Nov 11, 2017, 11:40am Top

>7 MarthaJeanne: We really start down a slippery slope when just mentioning a friend's book can be labeled as spam...
Though I can maybe understand the one thread catching the flak, but not the whole group or more than that one thread.

12MarthaJeanne
Nov 11, 2017, 12:19pm Top

We've had cases of people joining just to push a friend's or relative's book. This wouldn't bother me if it were one in a long line of previous books. The group and the other book are not spam.

13MarthaJeanne
Nov 12, 2017, 1:58am Top

And I certainly don't understand why people are flagging the latest topic.

14lilithcat
Nov 12, 2017, 10:23am Top

>13 MarthaJeanne:

Nor do I, and have counter-flagged. I also don't think the group is spam. It's odd to form a group merely to express one's own opinions about books, but it's not spam.

15abbottthomas
Nov 12, 2017, 11:58am Top

>14 lilithcat: I agree - not spam. What was in the removed threads? "A wonderful book" even if by a friend of the poster, is really no more than a review. And the 'reviewer' has openly declared an interest.

162wonderY
Nov 13, 2017, 8:17am Top

https://www.librarything.com/profile/ChickLitCafe

The home webpage explicitly describes the book reviews as part of a paid promotion deal.

17gilroy
Edited: Nov 13, 2017, 8:45am Top

>17 gilroy: lilithcat already gave them a rebuke back in September

18lilithcat
Nov 13, 2017, 8:47am Top

>16 2wonderY:

They were told back in September, but have continued to violate the TOS anyway.

19Helenliz
Nov 13, 2017, 8:50am Top

They've carried on, they have posted nearly half of their reviews since the september mail.

20MarthaJeanne
Nov 13, 2017, 8:59am Top

All the reviews have been red flagged to death.

212wonderY
Nov 16, 2017, 7:13am Top

https://www.librarything.com/profile/EleanorEstrada

Non-profit, but appears that profile is established just to get web presence. See descriptor and tags on profile picture: https://www.librarything.com/pic/6095743

Don't flag yet. Please discuss first.

22Nicole_VanK
Edited: Nov 16, 2017, 7:20am Top

I wouldn't call that spam. Sad that they need this site to gain a presence, yes - but spam, no.

23Nicole_VanK
Edited: Nov 16, 2017, 7:24am Top

Unless they start doing otherwise harmful things, obviously.

And who knows, they may have a library they mean to enter.

24MarthaJeanne
Nov 16, 2017, 7:25am Top

I would say that it is probably not commercial spam, but still spam.

25Taphophile13
Nov 16, 2017, 10:28am Top

>24 MarthaJeanne: Agree. Another similar charity profile was removed:
https://www.librarything.com/profile/sponsoring_a_child

If they add books, fine. Otherwise, it seems to be nothing more than here we are, please send money.

26MarthaJeanne
Edited: Nov 16, 2017, 10:57am Top

And this one doesn't seem to have basic information on their site in English. The only English I could find was similar misuse of other sites. But they don't want you to just send money. You are supposed to volunteer in Benin.

272wonderY
Nov 29, 2017, 9:53am Top

I'm pretty sure this is spam

https://www.librarything.com/profile/Pras

28lesmel
Nov 29, 2017, 10:12am Top

>27 2wonderY: Probably since that is a photo of (Hindi film actor) John Abraham.

29MarthaJeanne
Dec 1, 2017, 10:03am Top

https://www.librarything.com/work/15421953 has been suggested as spam, but I don't think it is.

30gilroy
Dec 1, 2017, 10:55am Top

>29 MarthaJeanne: I said no because 1) it's book related, 2) because Tim has said we can catalogue anything, and 3) because it's not advertising a specific site or pulling people to said site.

31Helenliz
Dec 1, 2017, 11:09am Top

>29 MarthaJeanne: I can't see why you'd catalogue that, but that's not my call. It does exist. I also voted no on that basis.

32Lyndatrue
Edited: Dec 1, 2017, 11:43am Top

>29 MarthaJeanne: I went to look at what the item might be, and after voting against it being spam, I got curious as to what sort of person this might be. Thank you for pointing this item out, since it's a library filled with books I like (and some I own), and my favorite way of discovering something I'd want to read, if I'd only known of its existence.

Excellent way to start out the month. :-}

33abbottthomas
Dec 1, 2017, 12:19pm Top

>29 MarthaJeanne:
>30 gilroy:
>31 Helenliz:
>32 Lyndatrue:
Thanks all for the support for my luggage tag ;-). As a long time Penguin Books collector I have a few non-book Penguin related items, coffee cups, playing cards, etc.. I hope the way they are catalogued keeps them away from Combiners and recommendations. You used to be able to buy a deck chair in a Penguin cover design but that was a step too far, even for me.

34Taphophile13
Dec 2, 2017, 6:46pm Top

Apparently some kind of arts and crafts organization just joined and added 70 books (OK) but . . . I don't understand their post—or why it's in the bug collectors group. Link to LT announcement from 2006 has been added. What does that have to do with anything?

http://www.librarything.com/topic/276728#
http://www.librarything.com/profile/FloridaCraftArt

35MarthaJeanne
Dec 2, 2017, 7:02pm Top

They are upset that a link in that blog post no longer works. Why that should upset, or even surprise anyone is also rather confusing to me. The link is to a nonexistant profile. "Error: This user doesn't exist"

36lilithcat
Dec 2, 2017, 7:42pm Top

>34 Taphophile13:, >35 MarthaJeanne:

That was an odd one. I suppose they may have spent the month since joining randomly perusing the blog and clicking links. Weird, but possible. The member they tried to link to was suspended a long time ago. Why they would care about someone mentioned in a blog post from 2006 is beyond me.

But they certainly seem to be a legit organization with quite a few books so far.

37passion4reading
Edited: Dec 3, 2017, 4:15am Top

This author (https://www.librarything.com/profile/Shay_Lee_Soleil) reviews and rates (5* no less) her own book:
https://www.librarything.com/work/18905480

The review for her other book has already been removed, though not the rating:
https://www.librarything.com/work/16733553

She also posted a link to her website in the haiku summary, which is why I came across her name, but I've already deleted the summary (not a haiku) and her website address (spam).

38MarthaJeanne
Edited: Dec 3, 2017, 7:03am Top

She is allowed to review her book. - If it were her own review.

39lilithcat
Dec 3, 2017, 9:06am Top

>37 passion4reading:

Those are either not her reviews or she is using false names on them, either of which would violate the TOS.

There's no way to remove a rating.

40passion4reading
Dec 3, 2017, 12:33pm Top

>38 MarthaJeanne: >39 lilithcat: Thanks for clarifying.

41passion4reading
Dec 12, 2017, 6:27am Top

https://www.librarything.com/topic/277607
https://www.librarything.com/profile/michaeylor

New member, joined today, no books. I think this is spam but I can't make sense of his (?) message, though he's trying to promote a website.

42gilroy
Dec 12, 2017, 7:20am Top

>41 passion4reading: I guess enough people thought it spam, cause it's gone now.

44Cecrow
Dec 12, 2017, 2:51pm Top

>37 passion4reading:, I think what happened there is a couple of people did review her book and gave it five stars, but they did not do so here on LT. So she copy/pasted their reviews into LT, under her profile name (but note that she cited the original reviewers' names). Intention seems honest, but yes, appropriately flagged.

452wonderY
Dec 14, 2017, 8:00am Top

https://www.librarything.com/topic/277664#6277906

I can't find an author link between the poster and the booklet he points to, but he's obviously not answering the OPs query.

46gilroy
Dec 14, 2017, 11:03am Top

>45 2wonderY: It looks like he's trying to answer, without actually answering. I'd already ignored that thread because the answer should have been go to the Name That Book group...

47gilroy
Dec 21, 2017, 11:29am Top

I'm poking through my reviews page and I stumble across this review:
https://www.librarything.com/work/16082183/reviews/149310369

It says it's a summary provided by GoodReads. Does this make it a Red or Blue flag. So far, I've been doing just a blue (the user has several of this nature) but I wanted to check if they qualified as worse...

48Helenliz
Dec 21, 2017, 11:34am Top

>47 gilroy: I checked Goodreads and it is, word for word, the summary that is on their site. It is not a review, it is the book summary. In which case the chances are that user hasn't written this. In which case, is that not a red flag for violation of copyright?

49lilithcat
Edited: Dec 21, 2017, 11:39am Top

>48 Helenliz:

It is not a review, it is the book summary

On LT, a book summary qualifies as a review.

So the question is whether or not the user wrote it. A quick Google search reveals that both the reviews Clippers posted are the publisher's book description. So red flag, but not blue flag.

50passion4reading
Edited: Dec 30, 2017, 4:42am Top

Please can someone explain what the correct procedure is for members who use their profile page simply to promote their book, often the only one in their library, with a link to where the book can be bought? Latest example: https://www.librarything.com/profile/bbcary

Thanks.

ETA: And here's another one: https://www.librarything.com/profile/ElaineA.Piha, though she hasn't added a link to a sales platform.

51Helenliz
Dec 30, 2017, 4:41am Top

>50 passion4reading: that is an example of a "teachable moment". Usual procedure is for someone to send them a message, pointing them to the terms and conditions (http://www.librarything.com/privacy#terms), how authors can use LT (http://www.librarything.com/about/authors) and the author groups (http://www.librarything.com/groups/hobnobwithauthors, http://www.librarything.com/groups/writerreaders).

Don't flag the author, but it is OK to flag posts that are overtly promotional and not in the author groups.

52passion4reading
Dec 30, 2017, 4:59am Top

>51 Helenliz: Thanks for the explanation and links. I've now left both members a polite message, referring them to the links you listed in your post.

53lilithcat
Dec 30, 2017, 8:41am Top

>50 passion4reading:

Members can use their personal profile for pretty much anything they want. Looking at the two links you've posted, I don't see anything wrong with them. There is no "violating activity" that would call for a comment. Self-advertising is okay on an author's personal profile (just not on the author page).

54passion4reading
Dec 30, 2017, 9:00am Top

>53 lilithcat: Ah. I followed Helenliz's advice (at >51 Helenliz:) that seemed to indicate they were "teachable moments". I find the information in some of the posts on the Wiki, initial posts on each spam reporting thread and individual posts in Spam Fighters very confusing and sometimes contradictory. Maybe it's time to update them?

55gilroy
Dec 30, 2017, 9:56am Top

>53 lilithcat: Yeah, tell that to the Great Profile Hunt that kills them regularly.
I think Helenliz was right. However, of the two profiles, they appear to be drive by authors. (One was from 2011.) I doubt we'll ever see or hear from them again.

56passion4reading
Edited: Dec 30, 2017, 11:55am Top

After the above debate what constitutes spam when posted by authors promoting their work, here's one for discussion: https://www.librarything.com/profile/Frank_Elder

Overzealous author who uses his profile page as a selling platform: "Purchase your signed copy for only $20 which includes shipping within the continental United States here:" (link follows).

Edited to remove erroneous touchstone.

57lilithcat
Dec 30, 2017, 2:55pm Top

Here's the way I feel about it.

LT says that "Do not use LibraryThing as an advertising medium. Egregious commercial solicitation is forbidden." and "Do not post messages in Talk advertising your book. " (See How Authors Can Use LibraryThing)

It seems to me that if all an author does is put a link on his personal profile, that's not "egregious". That's not pushing it into anyone's face. Unless the person posts in the forums pushing his book, one would have to stumble onto the link.

And, after all, LT does allow an author to review his own books, and I think that's worse.

58passion4reading
Dec 30, 2017, 3:07pm Top

>57 lilithcat: I can see your point, but to state upfront "Purchase your signed copy for only $20" to me seems to be egregious, i.e. shocking, blatant, commercial solicitation.

And I'm totally with you on authors reviewing their own books.

59lilithcat
Dec 30, 2017, 5:18pm Top

I guess I just don't see something as being egregious if nobody can see it except by accident!

60passion4reading
Dec 31, 2017, 3:44am Top

The same can be said for commercial spam profiles that don't add spam in Talk posts, but they're being flagged in the Great Spam Profile Hunt.

61lilithcat
Dec 31, 2017, 8:41am Top

This is a book site. Authors catalogue real books. Many interact with the community, becoming LT authors, providing their books via the ER and MG programs. Sure there are drive-by authors, but I'm not going to tar them all with them same brush.

I see a real distinction between them and escort services and the like.

62passion4reading
Dec 31, 2017, 9:11am Top

I can see I'm fighting a losing battle. I would just like to remind you that LT explicitly states: "Do not use LibraryThing as an advertising medium". In any case, I've already spent too much time on this, so I'm happy to leave him be.

63lilithcat
Dec 31, 2017, 9:21am Top

>62 passion4reading:

Not a losing battle! After all, opinions differ, and that's why we have threads like this, to discuss and argue (politely, I hope) our points of view.

64passion4reading
Dec 31, 2017, 10:18am Top

Wishing all Spam Fighters a happy New Year. Here's to renewed efforts in 2018.

65Taphophile13
Jan 1, 6:55pm Top

The wording makes me wonder, is she looking for a sugar daddy? Is that a TOS?
https://www.librarything.com/profile/plittle143

Not sure what to think of these two either. They each cataloged one book and then linked to the same real estate site. Co-workers or advertizing?

https://www.librarything.com/profile/beatrixwilliams
https://www.librarything.com/profile/britneydavis

66gilroy
Jan 1, 7:02pm Top

I'd say the two with the same real estate link in their profile, definitely spam.

The other... no clue

67lilithcat
Jan 1, 7:03pm Top

I think those last two are co-workers. Looks like they joined about a week apart. A case of "hey, check out this site I found"? Each has a legit book catalogued, and each took the trouble to review the books.

I don't know that looking for a daddy here is a TOS violation, but I don't think plittle143 is looking in the right place!

69lilithcat
Edited: Jan 2, 9:37am Top

Y'know, businesses can be members: http://www.librarything.com/organizations

Because of that, it's sometimes hard to differentiate between these legitimate members and the spammers. Often, a business will catalogue books that they use in their business or profession (the vet certainly seems to have done that). And it makes sense to me that a small organization or solo practitioner might want to do that.

70passion4reading
Jan 2, 9:38am Top

I am aware, but all but the last haven't identified themselves as such.

71lilithcat
Jan 2, 9:50am Top

>70 passion4reading:

True. I think that sometime businesses and organizations aren't aware of the possibility to list themselves as such. (I've never signed out and tried to join again to see how prominent that option is!)

72lesmel
Jan 2, 10:51am Top

Why was this flagged nearly to oblivion? https://www.librarything.com/topic/279816
There's nothing that warrants flagging. It's weird. It's possibly in the wrong topic. But I don't see spam.

73passion4reading
Jan 3, 12:06pm Top

Member profile set up with the sole purpose to promote author's book of the same title:
https://www.librarything.com/profile/themanifestmiracle4

742wonderY
Jan 3, 12:09pm Top

Not Spam, just tacky.

75norabelle414
Jan 3, 12:18pm Top

Though honest, since the profile states "Manifestation Miracle is undoubtedly an e-book..."

77passion4reading
Jan 15, 5:16am Top

>76 wcarter: Tanks for flagging. This is clearly commercial spam. For anything as clear-cut as this, please post in the current spam reporting thread.

79karenb
Jan 15, 6:43am Top

Could just be a cut-and-paste error, but I'm not sure where to report it: a long description of a publisher, but it's on the WikiThing

https://wiki.librarything.com/index.php/HelpThing:Profile/Stats/Publishers

80gilroy
Jan 15, 6:48am Top

>78 passion4reading: I'm of the mind to leave the private individual alone.

The author one is tricky. The URL profile is from 2010 while the non URL profile is from 2015. In both cases, should know better. The URL profile seemed more blatant, so I flagged it.

>79 karenb: Ugh. That's a repair that probably needs to go to lorannen because it was done in December 2015.

81passion4reading
Jan 15, 9:34am Top

Same thing again as in >78 passion4reading:, author with two member profiles, with one linking to his Amazon page
https://www.librarything.com/profile/GYPSY33
https://www.librarything.com/profile/AndrewHolmes

As >80 gilroy: gilroy flagged the author in my previous post, I flagged the one with the Amazon link.

82karenb
Jan 15, 4:26pm Top

>80 gilroy:

Thanks, gilroy!

83Taphophile13
Jan 15, 5:41pm Top

using reviews to drum up business?
the reviews are rightly red flagged but should the member be flagged as well?

https://www.librarything.com/profile_reviews.php?view=antillagorilla
https://www.librarything.com/profile/antillagorilla

84Lyndatrue
Jan 15, 6:40pm Top

>83 Taphophile13: Those aren't even reviews by any definition of the term. I just flagged the account. The best part about flagging that kind of account is all the reviews will just fade away (which is as it should be).

85passion4reading
Jan 16, 12:46pm Top

Worth a polite notice about self-promotion or not worth bothering with?
https://www.librarything.com/profile/DieterMarkert

86Lyndatrue
Edited: Jan 16, 4:41pm Top

>85 passion4reading: I'm planning on flagging the account (because I'm heartless). Two of the images in his gallery are the type that 2wondery often points out. They're just blatant spam.

https://www.librarything.com/gallery/member/DieterMarkert

Bleagh.

87passion4reading
Jan 17, 2:16am Top

>86 Lyndatrue: That was my thinking too, but I didn't want to jump any guns. I've flagged it. And "'Hot Doc' Dieter" - seriously?

88abbottthomas
Jan 17, 10:36am Top

https://www.librarything.com/profile/PaulJWhite

This author has been around for several years and has a library consisting entirely of his own work, some of which have indications as to how to purchase them. Low-key and hardly offensive but he has posted today asking how to make friends on LT.

I don't feel like taking action (but I might if I got a random befriending request)

89norabelle414
Edited: Jan 17, 10:52am Top

>88 abbottthomas: I considered mentioning in my response to his question about friends that he should watch what he does as an author but decided to keep an eye on and wait until he does something wrong

902wonderY
Jan 18, 10:05am Top

https://www.librarything.com/profile/Vireo_Health

Don't take any action yet, but check back. This could be an inept spammer or a valid business expecting to catalog their library.

91passion4reading
Jan 20, 7:43am Top

Another author with two member profiles. Though either page doesn't constitute commercial spam, I feel having two profile pages is coming very close:
https://www.librarything.com/profile/authorrobertswann
https://www.librarything.com/profile/AUrobertswann

Flag one but not the other? Or leave a note?

92passion4reading
Jan 20, 7:46am Top

Come across this author's profile again:
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Patricia.Cherry

Apart from being an author with self-published books, I feel she's using her profile page to drum up customers for her life coach business.

Spam or not spam?

93gilroy
Jan 20, 7:50am Top

>91 passion4reading: >92 passion4reading: I'd leave them all alone.

The first post are just sitting there. Unless they direct to it, they really are useless.
The second post her url is wrong. so there's no redirect. If she ever comes back and fixes it, then flag it to oblivion.

94passion4reading
Jan 20, 7:52am Top

And another one. This one goes straight to the point: "Download free ebooks in pdf and in Kindle format. From here you can download any ebooks at free."
https://www.librarything.com/profile/bourgoin40

Does this qualify as a bookshop or as spam?

95Marissa_Doyle
Jan 20, 10:10am Top

Quite possibly a scammer. They use the promise of free ebooks as a phishing lure.

962wonderY
Jan 20, 10:36am Top

This new member is using his profile to try to drum up business.
And all his catalog entries are books he has edited.

https://www.librarything.com/profile/jbisner

see the tags he's using on the profile image
https://www.librarything.com/pic/6192630

97passion4reading
Jan 20, 10:56am Top

>93 gilroy: OK, thanks, though it irks me a little.

>95 Marissa_Doyle: I notice that the member has been suspended. Someone obviously thought it spam.

>96 2wonderY: At first I wasn't sure, but having seen the tags I agree with you.

98anglemark
Jan 25, 12:59pm Top

Post here: https://www.librarything.com/topic/285559#

by https://www.librarything.com/profile/gurusiksha

seems innocuous enough, albeit malplaced, but I'm sure it's from:

https://www.gurusiksha.com/

99Lyndatrue
Jan 25, 1:23pm Top

>98 anglemark: I'm pretty heartless, and I've had caffeine, so I've achieved as much humanity as I'm likely to. I just flagged the topic. I'm considering flagging the profile (although I can be persuaded not to). For reference, I was about to post here on this (and thank you for doing the homework).

100passion4reading
Jan 25, 1:45pm Top

>98 anglemark:, >99 Lyndatrue: Topic flagged but as the profile doesn't have a link to the website (at least not yet) I've left it.

101gilroy
Edited: Jan 25, 2:08pm Top

>98 anglemark: >99 Lyndatrue: >100 passion4reading:
As they haven't openly started pushing to that website (or any for that matter), I'm going to leave them be, but watch carefully.

If they start pushing, then I'll flag.

ETA: But it won't matter because someone's already put it in the SPAM thread.

1022wonderY
Jan 25, 2:10pm Top

Sad.

103Lyndatrue
Jan 25, 3:00pm Top

>101 gilroy: and >102 2wonderY: Really sad, yes. The topic was deleted, which it should have been, but probably a note on the profile would have been just as easy as flagging the profile, and a more useful solution.

For the record, I'm not one of those who flagged the profile. I'd just checked back, now, to see the outcome. I usually try and refrain from posting things on the main thread when they're already here. It seems redundant, for one thing, and if it turns out that the consensus here is to not flag, posting there as well is guaranteed to override that choice.

104gilroy
Jan 25, 3:47pm Top

>103 Lyndatrue: I think I'm too soft and forgiving sometimes, because I don't like to flag unless it really is pushy or blatant. (Or if they should know better because of previous warnings.) And I would rather it not go in the main thread if it's here unless we say yes, kill it. But I don't know that everyone has the same thoughts as me. *shrug*

105Maddz
Jan 28, 1:11pm Top

It could be just a placeholder, but member: https://www.librarything.com/profile/kumperu has posted this message: https://www.librarything.com/topic/285698

I'm slightly hesitant to report it as spam because there's nothing immediately obvious to say it's spam.

106Marissa_Doyle
Jan 28, 1:13pm Top

It was a placeholder. The profile and all the spam posted after that are dead.

107gilroy
Edited: Jan 29, 1:08pm Top

https://www.librarything.com/work/15036944

I think this is a spam work for a business network, but needed others to save me from myself.

ETA: I think something that made me question it more is the editions page:
https://www.librarything.com/work/15036944/editions

Because it seems the bisnis canonical title is hiding the issues.

108Lyndatrue
Edited: Jan 29, 11:18am Top

>107 gilroy: Even without adequate coffee, I might vote against it being spam. It belongs to a private member, and it looks far more like someone not understanding what LT is used for than anything. The "review" isn't really there, and the only piece of information besides the title is that it belongs to a series called "Local" (which has just that book as an entry).

CK (which has a surprising amount of entries) was entered in 2014. Here's the profile that seems to be associated with it all.

https://www.librarything.com/profile/world.meadia.184

Then again, the single work in that library is also a bit odd; not the work itself so much as those who own it.

https://www.librarything.com/work/15036931/book/109400411

Okay, that's just about enough rabbit hole to make me need more coffee.

Short answer. I dunno whether or not it's spam.

109lilithcat
Jan 29, 12:43pm Top

>108 Lyndatrue:

The "review" isn't really there

The review won't be visible because it's a private member's.

110Lyndatrue
Jan 29, 2:09pm Top

>109 lilithcat: I understand this. It still isn't *there* for the rest of us (although it may have been).

What's your opinion on whether or not the work in question is spam? You tend to be one of the clearest voices on that, and I'd like to know what you think.

111lilithcat
Jan 29, 2:17pm Top

>110 Lyndatrue:

Honestly, that's so weird I can't tell!

112passion4reading
Jan 31, 9:49am Top

Dental surgery with one book in their library, but profile description is in my opinion blatant commercial spam:
https://www.librarything.com/profile/DentistHammond

1132wonderY
Jan 31, 9:56am Top

>112 passion4reading: I agree. Spam profile.

114passion4reading
Jan 31, 12:52pm Top

Link to schizophrenia website. I can't decide whether it's spam or a harmless link. It's the "What goes inside and how I can help" in the profile description that bothers me a bit.
https://www.librarything.com/profile/schizodisorder

115gilroy
Jan 31, 1:03pm Top

Others already thought it was, as it's gone now.

116passion4reading
Jan 31, 1:05pm Top

No books, belongs to a (dormant) LT group, link to attorneys
https://www.librarything.com/profile/biscanm

117passion4reading
Jan 31, 1:05pm Top

>115 gilroy: Wow, they're fast!

118passion4reading
Jan 31, 1:08pm Top

Life (sorry, make that *success*) coach, no books, lists his favourite reads, but to me is blatant commercial spam (but then I'm heartless)
https://www.librarything.com/profile/BudBilanich

119gilroy
Jan 31, 1:09pm Top

>116 passion4reading: Not spam. Looks like they had an interaction with another member.
>118 passion4reading: I'd kill that one.

1202wonderY
Jan 31, 1:10pm Top

>116 passion4reading: and >118 passion4reading: I'd leave those two be.

121passion4reading
Jan 31, 1:13pm Top

No books, profile description sounds OK, but has link to detox center website
https://www.librarything.com/profile/usadetoxcenters

122passion4reading
Jan 31, 1:15pm Top

>118 passion4reading: >119 gilroy: >120 2wonderY: One vote each for killing and letting him live. I'll let another one make that decision.

1232wonderY
Jan 31, 1:22pm Top

Bud Bilanich is a valid author. I just added his photo to his author page. His profile page looks no different than many author members.

1242wonderY
Jan 31, 1:22pm Top

>121 passion4reading: Yes, that's a typical spam approach. Mild. Put some ketchup on it.

125passion4reading
Jan 31, 1:32pm Top

>124 2wonderY: >121 passion4reading: Profile is already fried.
>123 2wonderY: >118 passion4reading: I just wanted to check to see whether I was too hasty labelling him as potential spam and then found someone clearly decided he was - he's been provisionally suspended.

126passion4reading
Edited: Jan 31, 3:28pm Top

What is the general consensus about books having a profile page devoted to them?

For example:
https://www.librarything.com/profile/vivachile
https://www.librarything.com/profile/thehottubguide

ETA a second offender.

127passion4reading
Jan 31, 4:04pm Top

Two books in the library but still blatant plugging of their pest control services (in my opinion):
https://www.librarything.com/profile/micelley

129Lyndatrue
Jan 31, 4:50pm Top

>127 passion4reading: I just flagged the profile, and both reviews. Those books are there ONLY to provide "reviews" that have not one thing to do with reviewing. I hates the spammers, I truly do.

130passion4reading
Feb 1, 2:15am Top

>128 2wonderY: >129 Lyndatrue: Thank you both. I have to admit that I didn't get as far as reading the so-called reviews.
>129 Lyndatrue: I couldn't agree with you more.

1312wonderY
Edited: Feb 1, 12:49pm Top

What to do?

New member is using tag feature to sell his books (which he has combined into one work)

http://www.librarything.com/profile/Matthew_Faulkner

http://www.librarything.com/author/faulknermatthew

AH! It's this other member who added the worst of the tags

http://www.librarything.com/profile/thegreendot321

See any similarities?

http://www.librarything.com/catalog/thegreendot321&tag=Buy%2Bthe%2Btales%2Bo...

132passion4reading
Edited: Feb 1, 12:53pm Top

I'd leave him a polite note and say that's not how LT works. I wouldn't have a clue what to say, so I'll leave that to the more knowledgeable and experienced members. If he keeps doing it then mark him as spam.

ETA: Two profiles? I'd mark one as spam.

133Lyndatrue
Feb 1, 12:53pm Top

>131 2wonderY: I'm about to flag everything, and this profile looks to be the "author" as well.

http://www.librarything.com/profile/thegreendot321

Self published books are the ruin of us all (okay, I'm annoyed, but I'll live).

In addition, it probably *is* only one book.

134gilroy
Feb 1, 1:09pm Top

Does he think because his last name is Faulkner that will do anything for him? Geez...

135passion4reading
Edited: Feb 1, 1:35pm Top

I notice that both profiles have been suspended.

>134 gilroy: Maybe he thinks, Everything he did I can do better!

I love books, but some of these self-published authors ram the fist of self-promotion so hard down your throat, it makes one choke. So even if some of the books were the best thing I've ever read, with someone so desperate to promote their work, I'd always stay well clear because it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Eurgh!

Edited for typo.

137.Monkey.
Feb 2, 3:29am Top

>136 passion4reading: They are allowed to put what they want in their member gallery. It's only if they try to add things to the author page there's a problem.

138passion4reading
Feb 2, 4:07am Top

>137 .Monkey.: Thanks for clarifying. Guess he's off the hook.

139.Monkey.
Feb 2, 5:45am Top

>138 passion4reading: You can see on his profile he did put promotional images on the author page a long time ago, which were then removed as usual. So presumably he's learned that's hands off. ;)

140passion4reading
Feb 2, 6:07am Top

>139 .Monkey.: Thank you, this is very helpful. Now I'll know what to look out for when combing for authors who cross the line between self-promotion and spamming.

I seem to recall having seen a few like this already. I'll leave them a note, following lilithcat's own wording.

141.Monkey.
Feb 2, 6:34am Top

>140 passion4reading: Yeah it's common for the self-pub type authors to try that stuff, so then when you flag the image you just add the standard "Not a photo of the author" or whatnot. :)

142passion4reading
Feb 2, 6:49am Top

Got it, thanks.

What about stuff like this, when a book or a series of books is given a profile page? This is the latest offender I found, two others I queried in this thread have been suspended.

https://www.librarything.com/profile/Pride.Series

143lilithcat
Edited: Feb 2, 8:49am Top

>142 passion4reading:

There's nothing wrong with that one. It's the author's profile page, and I don't see why she shouldn't use her book/series name as her user name.

144passion4reading
Feb 2, 8:53am Top

>143 lilithcat: OK, thanks for clarifying. I'm still learning the ropes to distinguish between what's legitimate self-promotion or spam.

145lilithcat
Feb 2, 9:00am Top

>144 passion4reading:

As far as authors are concerned, as long as they confine their promotion to their personal profile page and forums such as Hobnob I leave them alone.

147.Monkey.
Feb 3, 6:26am Top

Erm, you really need to pay attention to all the details. The first three were added by https://www.librarything.com/profile/METIER3 - an organization-member since 2015 with 1,945 books.
The next was added by https://www.librarything.com/profile/RobertForsythe - a member since 2011 with 7,201 books who works with transit/railway stuff.
The next by https://www.librarything.com/profile/Bouman - a member since 2008 with 1,391 books.
The last by https://www.librarything.com/profile/alaskayo - a member since 2007 with 21,427 books.

Just because something has "supplies" in the title does not make it spam. I think perhaps you should ease up a bit, your searching seems to be getting a bit overzealous.

148passion4reading
Feb 3, 9:10am Top

>147 .Monkey.: My searching is not getting overzealous, and I'd appreciate it if you got off my back over this. I couldn't make sense of what I was seeing, and when I don't understand something, I ask a question, which is what I've done; I have not flagged any of them. Agreed, maybe I should spend a bit more time investigating before I post here, but I didn't know what to look for.

149lilithcat
Feb 3, 9:48am Top

>148 passion4reading:

I didn't know what to look for.

On the work page, you can click on the name of the member(s) who added it. The information on the profile should help you in figuring out whether it really is suspicious.

1502wonderY
Feb 3, 1:36pm Top

Catching up today, I saw this thread posted yesterday

http://www.librarything.com/topic/286115#
by
https://www.librarything.com/profile/sky2lord5

and I'm surprised the post is still up, with no notice to the member.

Am I missing something?

151gilroy
Feb 3, 1:38pm Top

>150 2wonderY: I'd be willing to say the group didn't object, but...

I'll leave the profile notice anyway.

1522wonderY
Feb 3, 1:43pm Top

>151 gilroy: Elegantly done. Thanks!

153anglemark
Feb 3, 5:49pm Top

>150 2wonderY: Looking at who has his books, he's got two accounts as well. Not really actionable and probably not on purpose, but it might be pointed out to him.

154lilithcat
Feb 3, 6:33pm Top

>153 anglemark:

Created a couple of years apart, so I'm guessing he forgot his user name, as happens when folks haven't been around for awhile.

155Taphophile13
Feb 9, 7:43pm Top

>150 2wonderY: Chapter 1 was flagged into non-existence but he's back with chapter 2:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/286567#

gilroy's message is still on profile: https://www.librarything.com/profile/sky2lord5

156Lyndatrue
Edited: Feb 9, 8:00pm Top

>155 Taphophile13: and >150 2wonderY: Well, there it is. When someone thinks that the rules only apply to other people, it's time to flag the profile as well as the topic (which needed, last I looked, one more flag to be gone).

Yes, I already flagged both profile and topic.

ETA: Chapter Two is now gone. The profile is still worthy of flagging. YMMV.

1572wonderY
Mar 1, 7:32am Top

I'm not sure about this one:
https://www.librarything.com/profile/johnandersonus

but highly suspicious because he's an SEO marketer.

158gilroy
Mar 1, 7:33am Top

His homepage isn't clickable, so I'd say leave him alone.

1592wonderY
Mar 1, 7:37am Top

Also keeping an eye on
https://www.librarything.com/profile/awaken

I've left them a comment. Perhaps I'll hear back today.

But I had to share the oddity of their profile pic



with one posted this morning by another new member

1602wonderY
Mar 21, 7:56am Top

This one looks like Spam, but doesn't reach the threshold. I'll be checking back to see whether they add content that pushes them over the edge.

https://www.librarything.com/profile/ChattJaguar

161gilroy
Mar 21, 8:20am Top

>160 2wonderY: That looks as bad as most of the others posted, just short a URL. Is that the "threshold" it didn't make?

1622wonderY
Mar 21, 8:31am Top

Well, that's open for discussion. It lacks an address for one thing. They could conceivably want to catalog materials on their shelves, too.

164lilithcat
Mar 27, 8:49am Top

>163 2wonderY:

I'd say, "not yet". But one to keep an eye on, perhaps.

165gilroy
Mar 27, 10:30am Top

>163 2wonderY: >164 lilithcat: Yeah, agreed. Not yet but one to watch.

166karenb
Mar 31, 5:05am Top

This one joined in 2012 and has seen no action since. No books, URL not clickable, but postal address is home to many businesses with "call" in their names. It looks spammy to me, but the 2012 date suggests we're leaving it alone? (Still learning about All the Things Spam here.)

https://www.librarything.com/profile/come800

167karenb
Mar 31, 5:11am Top

Another vintage account: profile is all about a doll, complete with live links. No books, no activity, just selling a doll.

https://www.librarything.com/profile/baby3annabell

1682wonderY
Mar 31, 5:47am Top

>166 karenb: and >167 karenb:. Both prime Spam. Welcome to the sport!

169karenb
Mar 31, 6:08am Top

Thanks!

Gosh.

170karenb
Apr 1, 2:17am Top

This has one book but still seems just a commercial: https://www.librarything.com/profile/WindowIT

172karenb
Apr 1, 3:34am Top

School with no books, just links: https://www.librarything.com/profile/CRYPTOCIPHER

173karenb
Apr 1, 4:37am Top

Is it commercial if it's for a religious person? https://www.librarything.com/profile/dillministries

174karenb
Apr 3, 3:14am Top

....and they're all provisionally taken down. OK then!

Found another one:
This work talks about gmail passwords: https://www.librarything.com/work/21100102/details/151392938
Written by this member whose text and link match those found in the work: https://www.librarything.com/profile/TechGmail0

I'm guessing spam? Though flagging the work will leave a stray author (but then that's the way LT works, yes?)....

Thanks.
KB

175karenb
Apr 4, 12:45am Top

The description talks about a guy whose name has popped up before (D---- C----), but the link is to a real URL at the EFF:

https://www.librarything.com/profile/de9e2pl9inks

176Lyndatrue
Apr 4, 12:56am Top

>175 karenb: It isn't spam. Leave it be. It hurts no one by being there.

177karenb
Edited: Apr 4, 2:10am Top

Which is why I asked! Thank you.

(It resembled a bunch of spam profiles I'd just found.)

178karenb
Apr 11, 8:15pm Top

test cases for user Gangerli -- don't know if this is LT testing or someone from outside. Any idea?

https://www.librarything.com/profile/gangleri-fi
https://www.librarything.com/profile/gangleri-no
https://www.librarything.com/profile/gangleri-fi

179Lyndatrue
Edited: Apr 11, 8:36pm Top

>178 karenb: He's a strange one, yes, but he's been around for a long, long time. Maybe he forgot he made those. Here's his real profile.

https://www.librarything.com/profile/gangleri

180gilroy
Apr 11, 8:39pm Top

>178 karenb: I'd leave them.

181lilithcat
Apr 11, 10:40pm Top

>178 karenb:, >179 Lyndatrue:, >180 gilroy:

I'd leave them, too. gangleri did a lot of weird stuff (he's responsible for all that VIAF info in the disambiguation notices, and has the strangest collection of tags!). He hasn't been around lately, though. I hope he's okay; I seem to recall he had some health issues.

182karenb
Apr 12, 12:08am Top

Thanks, all! Leaving them alone.

183Collectorator
Apr 13, 12:34am Top

http://www.librarything.com/author/rainsnina
Is the short biography spam?
Also, should the image be flagged for not being a person?

184lilithcat
Apr 13, 12:43am Top

>183 Collectorator:

That image has already been flagged.

The "biography" is not a biography, so I'm deleting it.

185Collectorator
Apr 13, 12:52am Top

186karenb
Apr 13, 3:36am Top

There's a guy who has created a dozen or so accounts, including two for his publishing house, from 2015 to 2018. He has written & published books & DVDs, but he is not a LibraryThing Author. Each profile lists a different URL and advertises his writing and courses. His name is Anth*ny M*rris*n.

This is certainly borderline spam, but the person is an author too, so what to do?

187gilroy
Apr 13, 5:55am Top

>186 karenb: Can you post a link to one profile?

189gilroy
Edited: Apr 13, 7:14am Top

I'd say the latest is definitely spam. The oldest... I'm on the fence about.

ETA - I've separated out the Author page to two different Anthony Morrison authors. Just a gut feeling this success peddler isn't the cognitive psychologist.

190karenb
Edited: Apr 14, 7:35pm Top

>189 gilroy:

sounds reasonable to me.

What about https://www.librarything.com/profile/cignainsurance? Profile just says grad student (with a person's name) and has no links.

192Lyndatrue
Apr 15, 3:08pm Top

>191 Marissa_Doyle: I'd say yes. I've already flagged the topic. Here's the profile, and I'll leave the standard post on it.

https://www.librarything.com/profile/MCuneo

(Remember, please don't flag the author profile. It's only posted here since the topic will go away.)

193Taphophile13
Apr 15, 7:44pm Top

Hmm. Maybe not spam, not sure. New member / author has started a group for reviews. "Here you can offer your books for others to read and grade."
https://www.librarything.com/groups/authorsreadingauthor

It probably bears watching in case it turns out to be a way to promote his own book. Note that he misspelled the title of one of his books. I was under the impression that LT is a site for reviews.

194Marissa_Doyle
Apr 15, 7:55pm Top

>193 Taphophile13: So is it a place to set up "you review my book and I'll review yours" exchanges? And does he not know about the Member Giveaway program?

I dunno...

195lilithcat
Edited: Apr 15, 8:36pm Top

>194 Marissa_Doyle:

And does he not know about the Member Giveaway program?

Probably not. He just joined today, so may not have explored the site that much.

196gilroy
Apr 16, 7:08am Top

>193 Taphophile13: Looks like someone already felt it spam and has flagged it accordingly.

197karenb
Apr 18, 5:10am Top

This account name matches the business in the link -- but they are also members of LT ER/MG.

http://www.librarything.com/profile/fineartathome

1982wonderY
Apr 18, 6:35am Top

>197 karenb: I wouldn't call it spam.

199gilroy
Apr 18, 7:15am Top

>197 karenb: Just having a link, not spam.
Being a business with a link to said business, not spam.
Being a business where the write up is obviously meant to drive traffic to the link to the business, SPAM.

2002wonderY
Apr 18, 7:18am Top

>199 gilroy: Well done!

201karenb
Edited: Apr 18, 4:13pm Top

>198 2wonderY:
>199 gilroy:

Thank you! That's what I was thinking but couldn't put it into words.

2032wonderY
Apr 19, 10:10am Top

This one teeters on the edge. Note all the uses of his name on profile pictures.

https://www.librarything.com/profile/Lakshman-Srinivasan

204lilithcat
Apr 19, 10:52am Top

>203 2wonderY:

I'd keep an eye on it, but I don't see anything wrong with identifying the content of your profile pics.

205Marissa_Doyle
Apr 19, 11:44am Top

>203 2wonderY: There are a lot of profiles like that--mostly professionals who don't quite offer a price sheet, but post their CVs and multiple social media links and make it clear they're very open to consulting or speaking gigs. I've mostly sighed and ignored them.

206karenb
Apr 25, 8:57pm Top

another iffy one: "social media consultant" with live link to own consulting firm. Two books on topic (at least). No physical address given. Account opened 2008.

https://www.librarything.com/profile/kevinpalmer

207lilithcat
Apr 25, 9:37pm Top

>206 karenb:

I vote "not spam". There is no rule against having a link to your own website* on your profile, even if it is a business. The books are certainly legit (each has hundreds of copies here). Both were added a couple of days after he joined. My guess is that, like a lot of folks, he just didn't follow up after an initial burst of interest.

*I see that the website is no longer in existence, though that doesn't cause me to change my opinion. Lots of people have websites that disappear and they don't bother to go back and change it everywhere they've provided the link.

208gilroy
Apr 26, 5:00am Top

>206 karenb: Going back to the handy guide in >199 gilroy:, that's a no, not spam.

209karenb
Apr 26, 1:51pm Top

Thanks. That's what I thought too, but I wasn't sure.

210Taphophile13
Apr 28, 6:46pm Top

I'm not sure what kind of website digisok.com is (and don't want to click on it to find out) so I'm not positive about this one:
http://www.librarything.com/topic/290678#

I just get a spammy vibe from the post.

211lilithcat
Apr 28, 6:52pm Top

>210 Taphophile13:

I won't click on it, either, but there's no doubt in my mind that that is spam.

212Taphophile13
Apr 28, 7:01pm Top

>211 lilithcat: And it, and the profile, are gone.

213karenb
May 5, 1:32am Top

What about this? It claims to be a nonprofit organization, but I can't find info on the usual sites (give.org, Charity Navigator, or Charity Watch).

https://www.librarything.com/profile/imediaethicsnews

215karenb
May 5, 5:35pm Top

Oooh! I was looking for outside verification of their existence and didn't find the second link. Thank you!

216karenb
May 17, 5:47pm Top

Contest & giveaway from 2010, but it's related to a book. I think it's spam, but I'm not sure.

https://www.librarything.com/profile/nltbiblestudy

217karenb
May 20, 3:31pm Top

Motivational stuff? Seems to be affiliated with mostly one person, who isn't named in the profile.

https://www.librarything.com/profile/MoreThanSound

218norabelle414
May 21, 2:56pm Top

Account to keep an eye on: http://www.librarything.com/profile/stacks12
our friend Tywan is back but as far as I can tell has not done anything flag-worthy from this profile....yet.

219gilroy
Edited: May 21, 3:22pm Top

>218 norabelle414: I mentioned him to Lorannen because I thought he seemed underage from his actions. Not sure if she ever checked him out or not.

220Marissa_Doyle
May 26, 9:49pm Top

Here's an odd one-- someone took an existing book and renamed it with a spam name and gave it their own (spam business) name as author. Thoughts?
http://www.librarything.com/work/11373/123056803

They listed another work here which is more clearly spammy, though I held off on marking it as such: http://www.librarything.com/work/17438617/128094117

221Taphophile13
May 26, 10:09pm Top

>220 Marissa_Doyle: The miscreant anuj777 has already been suspended and recalculating restores the title and author.

The second one is obviously spam so I did mark as such.

222karenb
May 29, 11:49pm Top

A book that doesn't exist, though it doesn't contain links or anything else. Clearly fake, but is it spam?
http://www.librarything.com/work/21724360/155120317

Author is a user that I plan to mark as spam after this question is settled.

223lilithcat
May 29, 11:53pm Top

>222 karenb:

Yes, it is.

2242wonderY
May 31, 5:39pm Top

I think this is a Spam profile; not sure

https://www.librarything.com/profile/Richerd

225Marissa_Doyle
May 31, 5:41pm Top

>224 2wonderY: I'd vote "yes" on its being spam. It's SEO boosting.

2272wonderY
Jun 6, 4:47pm Top

>226 Taphophile13: It looks like an honest collection of resources. Interesting use of the site; I wouldn't consider it inappropriate.

228Taphophile13
Jun 6, 4:55pm Top

>227 2wonderY: Thanks. I haven't flagged it because it looked as if they might be using the site as a sort of Rolodex, not actually trying to send business to those places. A bit unusual but LT has a certain amount of oddity.

230lilithcat
Jun 12, 9:23am Top

>229 2wonderY:

Doesn't (yet) seem spammy to me.

231karenb
Jun 21, 3:08am Top

Stock photo, description mentions SEO, has programming-related books and groups (but never posted). Live link leads to jewelry site. Y/N/Maybe?

https://www.librarything.com/profile/Pavel-writer

232Maddz
Jun 21, 3:39am Top

It's possible for the blog to have disappeared and been taken over by an ad server. The Flikr photostream has gone too.

Given this guy has been a member since 2007 and only added 8 books (the most recently published in 2008), I suspect it's probably a dormant account.

233abbottthomas
Edited: Jun 21, 12:33pm Top

>226 Taphophile13: I haven't seen this before but it belongs to the Princess Alice Hospice, for me a local Palliative care facility, and very well regarded. As >227 2wonderY: says, an interesting use of LT.

They list books they have in the Hospice library as well as recommendations for books obtainable through public libraries. Also contact details of a wide variety of useful organisations. Some of the books have reviews and most entries have useful descriptive Comments. An excellent resource. I wonder if it would fit better on TinyCat?

As with the majority of hospices in the UK the organisation is not-for-profit and a registered charity. definitely NOT spam.

234Taphophile13
Jun 21, 12:50pm Top

>233 abbottthomas: Thank you for the additional information. You are very fortunate to have such good care facilities available to you. Many nursing homes in the US do not have good reputations.

235Helenliz
Jun 23, 3:53am Top

This user has posted on a number of threads and started new threads. I can't decide if it is pushing the book, or it just sounds like it.

http://www.librarything.com/topic/292308#6510491
http://www.librarything.com/profile/secret007

236lilithcat
Edited: Jun 23, 8:28am Top

I think she's an enthusiast, so not spam. See posts 86-88 here: http://www.librarything.com/topic/291724

However, she's being enthusiastic in the wrong places. Why would you post in a non-fiction thread about horror stories? Perhaps she just doesn't get the site. Think I'll drop her a note.

Adding: she's definitely not the author! http://www.librarything.com/author/quirogahoracio (who, I must say, looks pretty interesting).

It's all her fault: I found another book by him at my library and now have a hold on it. The Decapitated Chicken, and other stories

237karenb
Jun 26, 11:47pm Top

Another collection of users for the same person: Roberts Liardon, who is an author (though not a LibraryThing Author) among other things. Each profile lists a slightly different description and a different URL -- though five of the URLs take you to the same site (firstnamelastname.org). All the sites were created in August & September, 2011. What to do -- anything? I don't think they're spam, necessarily, but maybe an overzealous assistant?

In chronological order:
https://www.librarything.com/profile/rgeneralscom
https://www.librarything.com/profile/robertsliardoninfo
https://www.librarything.com/profile/rliardonorg
https://www.librarything.com/profile/rliardonus
https://www.librarything.com/profile/roberts_liardonnet
https://www.librarything.com/profile/bertsliardonus

238karenb
Jun 29, 12:47am Top

This account is supposed to be spam, but the href links "contruction maison" take you . . to the LT user profile. So, spam? (A moment's entertainment, if nothing else.)

https://www.librarything.com/profile/markwilliam

239Taphophile13
Jun 29, 12:51am Top

>238 karenb: poorly "constructed" spam at that

240karenb
Jul 1, 8:56pm Top

work? https://www.librarything.com/work/20705455/summary/148586527

user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/flaaw: "Our travel agency will act like travel agent for all tourists we provide services like tourism, vacation house booking, honeymoon trips, desert taxis, fishing"

241norabelle414
Jul 1, 9:47pm Top

>240 karenb: For sure, both the work and the user.

242karenb
Jul 2, 1:39am Top

243Ignatius777
Edited: Jul 7, 2:41pm Top

https://www.librarything.com/author/anchorhocking (not inc. the top two items which have some literary merit... just)

with entries like : https://www.librarything.com/work/11550977/

Private member for most of these, and has added a photo of these items - which appear all to be glassware.

244Taphophile13
Jul 7, 2:42pm Top

>243 Ignatius777: Not spam (member isn't trying to sell the item), just an unusual use of LT. In line with perfumes, doll collections, dresses, etc.

245Ignatius777
Jul 7, 2:47pm Top

and they have a place on a library site ? (genuinely confused )

246Taphophile13
Jul 7, 2:59pm Top

Some people catalog some odd things. Take a look: https://www.librarything.com/list/99/all/Things-we-wish-were-not-catalog-u-ed-on-LT
I don't think it's against any specific rule so the strange stuff continues.

248Lyndatrue
Jul 8, 1:05am Top

>247 karenb: I'd say yes. Mark the works as spam; I'll vote yes. I'm about to flag the user.

2492wonderY
Jul 8, 12:06pm Top

Marking the works as Spam.

250amysisson
Jul 18, 11:04am Top

Is this spam? There's a real profile attached, not a newly created one from today.

https://www.librarything.com/topic/293760

251norabelle414
Jul 18, 11:16am Top

>250 amysisson: Does not look like spam to me. Just over-use of all-caps

252gilroy
Jul 18, 11:18am Top

>250 amysisson: I'm on the fence. I can't tell if he's trying to advertise or just posting a whole bunch of things that he thinks is relevant. And the group looks... new ish.

254amysisson
Jul 18, 12:05pm Top

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, then. Thanks for weighing in!

255gilroy
Jul 18, 1:13pm Top

256gilroy
Edited: Jul 26, 5:30am Top

https://www.librarything.com/profile/Laila_Samea
https://www.librarything.com/topic/294131 (Same post in five groups, this is just a sample)

New user User been here since December of last year, came in and posted in five different groups. No notice about this survey being approved by staff.
I'm leaning toward five way flag happy, but wanted to be sure first.

257Maddz
Jul 26, 5:59am Top

She does appear to be a legitimate member of faculty:

http://scholar.cu.edu.eg/?q=lailasamea/

So I suspect it's someone not entirely au fait with etiquette here.

258gilroy
Jul 26, 6:30am Top

>257 Maddz: So that's yes it's spam?

259lilithcat
Edited: Jul 26, 8:17am Top

>258 gilroy:

Not familiar with etiquette does not (necessarily) equal spam. I'm not sure on this one. It's not commercial, it's not advertising.

260Maddz
Jul 26, 8:19am Top

>258 gilroy: I'd say probably not, just someone who doesn't understand forum etiquette. I'd call it mildly spammy, but not actual spam - she just wants to get data points for some research rather than try and inveigle people into buying stuff or harvesting emails. Clicking the link and using Google Translate it does appear to be a legitimate survey (at least going by the first page). As my Arabic is (these days) non-existent, and I don't really use libraries (I have way too many books of my own), I didn't bother going any further.

So no, not actual spam. I think a quiet PM to say she ought to get permission/tell staff she's posting survey links will suffice but otherwise I would call it a perfectly reasonable attempt to harvest data from Arabic-language library users who use LT, belong to the groups she posted to and can be bothered to click on the link (probably a very small number). Also comment she really ought to indicate if she's cross-posting the same message to different groups (the lack of such an indication makes it look like spam even though it's not).

I also raise an eyebrow that as a professor of library science she's only managed to catalogue one book since last December... I suspect she's actually using the university library and doesn't own many books of her own (plus she seems to be affiliated with different universities so probably moves around a lot). Cataloguing her personal library and participating in forum discussions would actually make look like a real person too.

261gilroy
Jul 26, 9:00am Top

>260 Maddz: Well, one of the groups she chose was Talk about Librarything...

262karenb
Jul 26, 10:05am Top

What about this account? You can't tell where all the links will take you.

https://www.librarything.com/profile/alexendiar.

263lorannen
Edited: Jul 26, 11:35am Top

>256 gilroy: Yeah, she emailed us about it (initially asking if she could message members directly—lol, no), and we told her she could post a link asking for survey responses on Talk in the appropriate group. I guess I didn't explicitly say she couldn't post it in five separate groups, but... ::sigh::

I'll email her.

264Taphophile13
Jul 26, 11:52am Top

Interesting that she chose to post here:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/61915#

266gilroy
Jul 31, 5:13am Top

I'm saying overenthusiastic fan.

267Maddz
Jul 31, 5:20am Top

An overenthusiastic fan with no books catalogued at all in the 8 years since joining? Let alone the author that person is apparently a fan of?

268lilithcat
Edited: Jul 31, 7:58am Top

>266 gilroy:

Agreed.

It's certainly not the author, because she's been dead for years.

2692wonderY
Aug 6, 11:10am Top

Watching these two:

https://www.librarything.com/profile/addioalcelibato
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Curriculet

same location. looks like advertisement profiles. no books added.

270lilithcat
Aug 6, 11:12am Top

>269 2wonderY:

"same location"? One is in Italy, the other in Utah.

One is selling tee shirts, the other is a learning research center.

I've flagged the first, I see no reason to think the other is spam.

272lilithcat
Aug 6, 11:16am Top

I wonder if those are different programs within the learning research center.

273omargosh
Aug 11, 11:53am Top

Pretty sure this is spam, but like to check in here and make sure:
https://www.librarything.com/profile/sapackagesalmams
https://www.librarything.com/work/20312112 (their one work)

274Taphophile13
Aug 11, 12:08pm Top

>273 omargosh: Definitely spam — Zain 4G internet plans.

276Taphophile13
Aug 15, 11:34am Top

>275 2wonderY: I think advertising on his profile doesn't rise to the level of spam. If he starts posting anywhere else, that's a different story.

277Lyndatrue
Aug 15, 11:52am Top

>275 2wonderY: Yeah, not spam (yet), but give him time...

I'd say his two author profiles ought to be combined, though.

https://www.librarything.com/author/esqreshardalexander
https://www.librarything.com/author/alexanderreshard

(I'm not competent to do so right now, or I'd have just done it.)

278karenb
Aug 15, 2:37pm Top

>275 2wonderY:

Also, having a book makes it more of an author page, which allows much more leeway.

279abbottthomas
Aug 16, 5:02am Top

https://www.librarything.com/topic/294992

Spam in my book but I haven't flagged the perpetrator. I expect someone will.

280gilroy
Aug 16, 5:05am Top

Enthusiastic Author. Message definitely spam. Profile, not yet.

281karenb
Aug 26, 5:13am Top

https://www.librarything.com/profile/dwaynepope

No such legit organiation called the Pope Foundation in Georgia (per Charity Watch, give.org, & the IRS). Site has one page, only stock photos in the gallery (for future posts?).

283karenb
Sep 14, 7:04pm Top

IP law? It would include copyright, though the profile reads like an ad.

https://www.librarything.com/profile/PattersonSheridan

2842wonderY
Sep 19, 8:20am Top

Suspicious profile pictures, but no other promotional material or links yet.
One to keep an eye on:

https://www.librarything.com/profile/RivenMoonbow

2852wonderY
Sep 20, 7:56am Top

What is done with tags that are links?

New author has created a tag that directs to Amazon:

https://www.librarything.com/profile/EstherNaidoo

I would remark to her, but she's got comments turned off.

286gilroy
Sep 20, 8:07am Top

It's a tag. It goes to a tag page. Not much we can do.

287lilithcat
Sep 20, 8:43am Top

Time for a new thread.

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