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1lorannen
Edited: Dec 4, 2017, 5:47pm Top

It’s the most wonderful time of year*—this is our ELEVENTH Annual SantaThing!

The main SantaThing page lives here: http://www.librarything.com/santathing.php

UPDATE: SantaThing sign-ups are now CLOSED, and Santas have been matched! If you did not receive a message notifying you of who you're picking books for, please let me know.

You can still edit your SantaThing entry at any time by going to the SantaThing page, and scrolling down a bit to "Your SantaThings." Each entry has an "(edit)" link to the far right of that line.

We've got a couple new booksellers on the list this year. We’re thrilled to be partnering with
Print as our official local indie store in Portland, ME. Plus, Barnes & Noble (print) and Walmart are joining the ranks of our store options. See the blog for full details.

Thanks so much to everyone who generously donated a SantaThing entry on our Donations Thread this year, and to LT member mellymel171328 has once again volunteered her time to run it!

Any questions? Post them in this thread, see the SantaThing Help page for FAQs, or email me directly at loranne@librarything.com.

2lorannen
Nov 13, 2017, 3:30pm Top

Update: Donations thread is up and running: https://www.librarything.com/topic/275063. I also updated the OP to reflect this.

3mellymel171328
Nov 13, 2017, 3:32pm Top

Best time of year! :)

4lorannen
Edited: Nov 13, 2017, 3:37pm Top

I know this was a much-requested feature last year, but we were unable to make it so that you can copy over your SantaThing reading tastes info from years previous. If you really want or need to see yours, message me, and I can pull it from the database for you.

>3 mellymel171328: Couldn't agree more!

5majkia
Nov 13, 2017, 4:15pm Top

Yay! Love Santa Thing!

6Petroglyph
Nov 13, 2017, 4:52pm Top

SantaThing is here! I love picking books for strangers!

7Stevil2001
Edited: Nov 13, 2017, 7:18pm Top

The eleventh SantaThing, and MY eleventh SantaThing. I'm not emotionally prepared for it to be Christmastime, but I'll get on board with this!

EDIT: And I'M the 11th person to sign up. Coincidence?????? (Yes.)

8leahbird
Nov 13, 2017, 6:37pm Top

SO EXCITED!

9crazy4reading
Nov 13, 2017, 7:39pm Top

So excited!! I have been checking for this the past few days!! All signed up!!

10lorannen
Nov 13, 2017, 8:11pm Top

Just a heads-up for this evening: we're having a big storm out here tonight and our internet just went out, so I may not be able to keep as close an eye in SantaThing stuff as I normally would. Don't worry - I'll be back.

11mellymel171328
Nov 13, 2017, 8:13pm Top

>10 lorannen: I know a few of us can help with basic questions :) I always keep an eye out on this thread. Hope the storm calms down quickly!

12camelama
Nov 14, 2017, 10:38am Top

Eeeeeeeee! Happy!!

13kwp
Nov 15, 2017, 9:29am Top

Good news! Also will the card exchange be repeated this year?

14lorannen
Nov 15, 2017, 9:29am Top

>13 kwp: Yes, the card exchange is coming, but not for a couple weeks yet.

15tealadytoo
Nov 15, 2017, 10:59am Top

Oooh. My first year. This should be fun. :=)

16mellymel171328
Nov 15, 2017, 11:06am Top

>15 tealadytoo: Welcome to SantaThing :) I promise you will enjoy it. :)

17jeshakespeare
Nov 15, 2017, 12:19pm Top

Hi everybody! This is going to be my first SantaThing. I hope I did everything right when I signed up! I hope it was okay to be specific on my book wishes. I can't wait to be told who I am being a jolly elf to!

18lorannen
Nov 15, 2017, 12:21pm Top

>17 jeshakespeare: Welcome aboard! We hope you like SantaThing as much as we do. It's absolutely fine to make specific requests

19MrsLee
Nov 16, 2017, 9:08am Top

I would like to gift a SantaThing, but the person I want to gift lives in Canada, I do not. How can I go about this? I tried to choose Amazon.ca, but nothing happened when I clicked the PayPal button.

20mellymel171328
Nov 16, 2017, 9:48am Top

>19 MrsLee: are you signing up for them or are you letting them sign up for themselves?

21lorannen
Edited: Nov 16, 2017, 11:09am Top

>19 MrsLee: So the PayPal button and store selection are two separate things. Clicking the PayPal button should open a new tab on your browser, or at least take you to a PayPal screen. You submit your payment, then come back to the SantaThing sign-up page to enter your receipt number and other details.

Can you message me with more details on what's going wrong? I just tested all the PayPal buttons for the various price points and they're all working fine for me.

22rosalita
Nov 16, 2017, 12:10pm Top

>19 MrsLee: Do you have pop-ups windows blocked on your computer? I've had that problem before with other sites that open up in a new tab or window, and depending on which blocker you use it's not always obvious that's what is happening.

23mellymel171328
Nov 16, 2017, 1:43pm Top

It has been such a slow and amazing start to the year. :) Already have had donations and so far everyone in need has been taken care of. :)

24MrsLee
Nov 17, 2017, 8:35am Top

Thank you all, I tried it again this morning and it worked fine.

Another question though. My friend doesn't have time to pick books for others, so I will do that. Even though I put her as the recipient, will I be given the name of the person I'm picking for? I also signed up for myself, so I should have two names, right?

25bcrowl399
Nov 17, 2017, 9:37am Top

I'm very excited to join this year. This is the first time I've done Santa Thing, but I've heard how wonderful it is. I'm looking forward to giving books. And getting books, too!

26mellymel171328
Nov 17, 2017, 10:45am Top

>24 MrsLee: if you signed up on your profile you will get her person. If you signed up using her profile then you would have to be on hers.

27mellymel171328
Nov 17, 2017, 10:46am Top

>24 MrsLee: since you signed up on your profile you will get the person to pick for her. :)

28MrsLee
Nov 17, 2017, 11:12pm Top

>27 mellymel171328: ok, yes, I put her name as the recipient, but signed up from my profile, I guess.

29mellymel171328
Nov 18, 2017, 8:07am Top

>28 MrsLee: since its in your profile you will get her person. :)

30Candice_oxo
Nov 18, 2017, 9:07pm Top

I'm so excited! This is the highlight of my season every year.

I was wondering, I have a couple of different paragraphs in my profile but how do I create space between them (breaks) so they all don't run together and make one massive paragraph for my reader?

31Stevil2001
Nov 19, 2017, 10:58am Top

>30 Candice_oxo:

<br> is the HTML code for a line break. So you can use two in a row to create a blank line between paragraphs. (It's not exactly user friendly.)

32Capybara_99
Nov 19, 2017, 9:04pm Top

I'm missing where it says how much each Santee is to receive (or where to not it when signing up). Is that only available to the Santa when assigned and picking?

33literatefool
Nov 19, 2017, 10:39pm Top

I've been waiting for it to start-it has become one of my holiday traditions!

And thank you to all of the elves behind the scenes making this happen!

34lorannen
Nov 19, 2017, 10:46pm Top

>32 Capybara_99: That's correct. Between now and the time sign-ups close, we have to run a process that populates that information to SantaThing profiles. That's why that field will remain hidden until that point.

35Candice_oxo
Edited: Nov 20, 2017, 12:06pm Top

>31 Stevil2001: Thank you so much!

36EllsieFind
Nov 21, 2017, 6:46pm Top

I think this if my fourth year! Really love getting that package. There are some very thoughtful Santas on LibraryThing.

37LibraryCin
Nov 22, 2017, 8:07pm Top

I enjoy this, but I am just posting to follow along this year. I hope to help pick out some books for other people!

38mellymel171328
Nov 26, 2017, 3:51pm Top

It has been amazing so far over here at the Donation thread: https://www.librarything.com/topic/275063 . Please feel free to come over if you are need. We have so many wonderful people who would love to help you join in on the fun! Thank you to all the people donating! You make LibraryThing the amazing place it is. :)

39lorannen
Edited: Nov 28, 2017, 9:57am Top

Just a quick reminder: we're just past the one week mark left for sign-ups! SantaThing sign-ups close Monday, Dec. 4th at 12pm EST. If you've been thinking about joining in, now's the time!

40mellymel171328
Nov 28, 2017, 11:25am Top

There are a couple waiting for donations over at the donation thread this year. If you want to donate please let me know. :)

41Novimarra
Nov 29, 2017, 9:20pm Top

How can you edit your own request preferences once you've submitted them? Or can you? :)

42lorannen
Nov 29, 2017, 10:01pm Top

>41 Novimarra: You sure can! Head over to the SantaThing page and look under the header "Your SantaThings." Near the end of the line for your entry (so, to the far right on the page), you'll see a link that reads "(edit)". Click that link to edit your book tastes, address, etc.

43Novimarra
Nov 30, 2017, 7:58am Top

Awesome, thanks!

44Jen_Bartels
Dec 1, 2017, 10:23am Top

Just signed up for my first time! I'm so excited!!! Let the exclamation points be overused!!!!!!!!!!!!

45LibraryCin
Dec 1, 2017, 2:19pm Top

46mellymel171328
Dec 1, 2017, 2:29pm Top

>44 Jen_Bartels: Yay!!!!!!!!!! Welcome to Santa Thing!!!!!

47mellymel171328
Dec 2, 2017, 3:41pm Top

I can't believe there is only a couple more days left for sign ups! We still have a couple people in need of a donation. :) https://www.librarything.com/topic/275063

48KaylaStierwalt
Dec 2, 2017, 4:49pm Top

This sounds fun! I just signed up for my first time. I look forward to sending and receiving. Is it possible to add short notes for the recipient like you can do when you send gifts online and they add it to the packing slip?

49lorannen
Dec 2, 2017, 5:36pm Top

>48 KaylaStierwalt: That sort of depends on the bookstore your Santee has chosen. In theory, for example, Amazon and Powell's both allow for printed gift messages to ship along with the books. We always include a brief message, indicating it's a gift from their Secret Santa. However, most gifts I've ever sent personally through Amazon seem to have left out the packing slip and thus the gift message entirely.

All that said, you can certainly leave a nice note in a comment on your Santee's SantaThing profile—and many Secret Santas do!—with warm wishes, and any info you'd like to pass on to them about the books you've chosen. They'll be able to read that message on Dec. 25th.

50lorannen
Edited: Dec 3, 2017, 12:10pm Top

We're just past the 24-hour mark, folks! Sign-ups are closing tomorrow, at 12pm EST. So, if you've been on the fence and waiting, now is the time. After that, we'll be matching Santas up, and then the gift-picking fun begins!

51Morphidae
Dec 3, 2017, 9:19pm Top

"Amazon.com, for example, grants free shipping with orders of $25 or more. Members who pay in at the $25 level and pick Amazon as their store will get $20 worth of books, to cover shipping costs."

Well, which is it? The sentences are contradictory. The first says $25 (or more) has free shipping. The second says $25 will cost you $5 in shipping.

The first one should be the correct statement as Amazon's current free shipping is at $25 making the comment further down of, "Amazon.com: Orders of $25 or lower will have $5 less in their budget to work with. Orders of $30 or higher will get exactly what they pay in books," incorrect.

52timspalding
Edited: Dec 3, 2017, 9:53pm Top

>51 Morphidae:

Okay, but hitting exactly 25.00 isn't going to happen, with taxes.

53Morphidae
Dec 3, 2017, 9:56pm Top

>52 timspalding: Meh. Details, details.

54mellymel171328
Dec 3, 2017, 9:57pm Top

>51 Morphidae: At 25.00 you have free shipping. So if you have exactly 25.00 like >52 timspalding: said you won't be over 25.00 to get that free shipping. With 30+ you will be able to get the free shipping.

55saroz
Dec 4, 2017, 12:33am Top

Small problem: I've moved to a new address in the last few months, and when I paid on PayPal I didn't notice until too late that the address was my old one. What can I do to fix this so my books actually reach me?

56lorannen
Dec 4, 2017, 12:38am Top

>55 saroz: Not to worry! Your PayPal mailing info doesn't get automatically added to your SantaThing entry—all SantaThingers have to enter it directly on the SantaThing form. I'm not seeing a SantaThing entry for you just yet. Drop me a private message if you've already set it up, and I can double-check and make sure your address is correct.

57saroz
Dec 4, 2017, 12:47am Top

lorannen: See, that's what I get for doing this so late at night. I just filled out my form and all is well. :) Time to change my default PayPal address, though...

58lorannen
Dec 4, 2017, 1:15pm Top

UPDATE: SantaThing sign-ups are now CLOSED. We're working on matching up Secret Santas, and will send everyone a message once that's done. Thanks for your patience in the meantime!

59Petroglyph
Dec 4, 2017, 1:41pm Top

Glad I signed up earlier today! I'd been putting it off and would have been genuinely sad to have missed SantaThing this year.

60timspalding
Dec 4, 2017, 2:01pm Top

Process still ongoing. We had a duplicate and are figuring out one code that may not have been entered.

61InsightsintoBooks
Dec 4, 2017, 2:04pm Top

I can't wait to find out who I get to pick for!! It's my favorite part. :)

62mellymel171328
Dec 4, 2017, 2:11pm Top

I think that was my fault! lol I got it all fixed up. :)

63owlie13
Dec 4, 2017, 3:01pm Top

I knew I procrastinated too long! Got busy at work and missed sign-ups by 3 hours!! Drats.

64lorannen
Edited: Dec 4, 2017, 3:05pm Top

>63 owlie13: We'd hate to have you miss out. If you can email me ASAP, with your store preference, I can still sneak you in.

You can submit your payment for SantaThing via the "Donate" button at the bottom of our store page: https://www.librarything.com/more/store

ETA: Might help if I include my email address: loranne@librarything.com

65mvr1426
Dec 4, 2017, 5:40pm Top

This is my first year for the SantaThing - so I am unsure how this works. I only paid $20. But my selection is a $35. I truly don't mind then difference, but am I missing something? And how do I find out what they already have? Thanks.

66lorannen
Dec 4, 2017, 5:42pm Top

Good news! Santas have been matched! Notifications containing your Santees are rolling out now, so keep an eye out.

Keep in mind that you have until Monday, Dec. 11th at 12pm EST to make your selections! If you're looking for suggestions, feel free to post here.

I do have a small handful of Santees who somehow didn't get their store choice recorded. I've already messaged them all, and am awaiting their replies and updating them as they come in. So, if your Santee doesn't have a store indicated yet, don't panic! But do feel free to message me, if you're concerned.

67lorannen
Dec 4, 2017, 5:46pm Top

>65 mvr1426: Welcome aboard! I'm sorry for the confusion. So, the way SantaThing works is everyone gets out of SantaThing what they've paid in. The person you're shopping for paid $35, so you get to select $35 worth of books for them. Your Secret Santa, meanwhile, will pick books for you within your budget.

To see what's already in their library, click their username up at the top of their SantaThing profile page. That will take you to their LT profile, and from there you can click various collections to see what's in their library, wishlist, etc.

Pro-tip, the "What should I borrow?" module is a SantaThinger's friend. From your Santee's LT profile, look at the boxes on the right-hand side of the page, for a section labeled "Compare books". Clicking on the link below that, which reads "What should you borrow?" will give you a side-by-side list of recommendations of books that we think you and your Santee would like, based on what's already in your respective libraries.

68mzonderm
Dec 4, 2017, 6:13pm Top

Do we have to calculate in the tax? If so, how do we do that, since we don't know what state our Santee lives in?
Sorry if this is in the FAQ; I didn't see it, but that definitely doesn't mean it's not there!

69sallylou61
Dec 4, 2017, 6:14pm Top

I have never used the Book Depository before, and when I started looking in it, I saw multiple listings for the same title with different prices. I have already sent some questions to the Book Depository, but does anyone know:
1. Does the Book Depository sell only new books? If not, how do you tell which ones are new?
2. Since LibraryThing will do the ordering, how do we know what the price of a title will be since one title has so many listings in the Book Depository database?
3. Is there anything specific we are supposed to do when selecting from there?

70Petroglyph
Dec 4, 2017, 6:18pm Top

>69 sallylou61:
You'll identify your choices for your santee with both isbn and a link to the specific book on Book Depository, as well as the title and the book price. That should be enough to tell various listings apart.

71lorannen
Dec 4, 2017, 6:30pm Top

>68 mzonderm: Nope, don't worry about tax. That's our problem. :)

>69 sallylou61:
1) Book Depository does not sell used books, so that's one less thing to worry about there.

2) I'm still not sure why they often have so many different listings for the same title at different prices, but so long as the book is in stock (and not a pre-order, or marked as "will ship at some date in the future"), I wouldn't fret about it too much. This is part of why we ask Santas to include a link to the specific item they'd like us to order for their Santee, along with the title and ISBN.

3) BD is more straight forward than some when it comes to SantaThing shipments. There are no special instructions or considerations you need to make beyond making sure the book is marked as "Available" when you do your shopping. Availability status is indicated over on the right-hand side of a book page, with a black checkmark that says "Available" next to it.

72guido47
Dec 4, 2017, 6:48pm Top

My Santee is in Canada and I must use Amazon.ca. Her budget is US$xx but the prices are in Canadian Dollars. Do I have to do the conversion?
If so what conversion rate do I use? And rates vary even within a week. I usually try to get to within a few pennies of the total :-)

73LDVoorberg
Edited: Dec 4, 2017, 8:01pm Top

>guido47: I'm in Canada; I chose $40 USD and paid approx $53 CDN, if that helps.

74guido47
Dec 4, 2017, 8:13pm Top

Thanks >73 LDVoorberg:. I looked up the exchange rate and it was 1.27. I guess I want a bit of riggle room and want to use the exchange rate as an excuse for when I go a dollar or so over.

75LibraryCin
Dec 4, 2017, 8:24pm Top

>72 guido47: Unfortunately, those of us in Canada had no option to pay in Canadian dollars!

76sallylou61
Dec 4, 2017, 9:08pm Top

>71 lorannen: How do you make the link?

Thanks.

77elphie93
Dec 4, 2017, 9:36pm Top

This is my first time doing SantaThing and i'm super excited!

I've already picked books for my Santee, but have an awkward amount (US$8) left over.
If I can't find anything they want in that price range, what happens to their money?

I could just pick a not-so-great cheap book, but that seems kinda sad.

78guido47
Dec 4, 2017, 10:01pm Top

I have picked my books BUT some have only 1 copy available, which might be gone by the time LT places the order. What then? Should I suggest some reserves?

79MOQLibrary
Edited: Dec 4, 2017, 10:22pm Top

*Nevermind, I just realized that the Santee pages list the amount. Must've missed that earlier!
This may be a silly question, but I'm new here :) How do I know what my Santee's maximum order amount is so I can pick the right amount of books? Like $15...$25...$30...?
I myself am receiving a kind donation from someone, so how do I know the amounts for MY 2 Santees that I'm picking books for?

80ILuvBookplates
Dec 4, 2017, 10:35pm Top

>78 guido47: I can tell you from participating last year that making extra suggestions is a good idea. That could make things easier when they start placing the orders.

81guido47
Dec 4, 2017, 10:38pm Top

Are DVD's OK to give?

If not I will hold my breath till...and roll on the floor kicking and screaming and pout!!!!!

82ILuvBookplates
Dec 4, 2017, 10:39pm Top

Should we avoid books that are marked by the bookseller as being a special order?

83lorannen
Dec 4, 2017, 11:14pm Top

>72 guido47: We've got some rough (and recently updated) exchange rates over on the SantaThing help page, or you can do what I do and use Google's Currency Converter.

>76 sallylou61: When you're on the webpage for a specific book you'd like to select for your Santee, copy what you see in the URL bar, and paste it into the Link column on their SantaThing profile. So, for example, if I copied the URL for this Talk page I'm on right now, it would look like this: https://www.librarything.com/topic/275062

>77 elphie93: Unfortunately, $8 under budget leaves too much leftover. There are good cheap books (usually classics) that can make great gifts. Another thing you can try is upgrading to a nicer (i.e. hardcover) edition of one of the books you've already selected.

>78 guido47: Leaving alternate picks is always welcome and encouraged, if you feel so inclined. The first thing Staff Elves will do if something's out of stock is look for an alternate edition of your initial pick, of course. Sometimes books restock quickly, though, so don't lose hope! Bonus: even if we don't end up ordering your alternate picks for your Santee, they then get some extra great suggestions to add to their wishlist for later.

>81 guido47: Pouting or no, I'm afraid DVDs are not SantaThing material. Books only, please!

>82 ILuvBookplates: That depends on the bookseller. Message me privately with a link (so as not to spoil any surprises) and I'll take a look? It's probably fine, as I've got a good guess at what you're seeing, but I'll need to check to make sure.

84dianeham
Dec 4, 2017, 11:27pm Top

If someone says they would like you to gift them your favorite book, do you do it? My favorite book is "The Once and Future King." Should I buy that? I'm unsure.

85saroz
Dec 5, 2017, 12:06am Top

Everybody needs a copy of "The Once and Future King," surely. :) More seriously, though - why not take them at their word? They chose to ask for the giver's favorite book, so that must be of interest to them. Perhaps they have very wide-ranging tastes and just want a total surprise. I'd do it, so long as my favorite book wasn't already in their library. They must surely know they are likely to get something "classic" or at very least well-known.

86sallylou61
Dec 5, 2017, 12:22am Top

>83 lorannen: . Thanks. I have added the links. When you do the ordering, will you be able to delete our notes. I have one about not being able to add the links when I selected the books, and managed to wish my Santee Merry Christmas twice with identical notes. Sorry to cause so many problems.

87lorannen
Dec 5, 2017, 12:25am Top

>84 dianeham: I'd take them at their word (assuming they don't already have your favorite book)! Some folks (myself included) like to use SantaThing to step outside of the realm of books and genres they know about, and really enjoy the surprise aspect.

88dianeham
Dec 5, 2017, 12:25am Top

This is lots of fun.

89lorannen
Dec 5, 2017, 12:26am Top

>86 sallylou61: Thank you, I really appreciate it! I sure will delete those notes. As SantaThing commenting builds up steam, check for duplicate notes periodically, and delete them!

90elphie93
Edited: Dec 5, 2017, 12:55am Top

Ok thank you! They only want ebooks, otherwise the hardcover upgrade would be perfect....i'll find something else to add :)

91lorannen
Dec 5, 2017, 1:39am Top

I'm calling it a night, folks, so don't fret if you don't hear from me til the morning! Happy book-hunting in the meantime!

92Mencius
Dec 5, 2017, 2:47am Top

My santee has a completely different taste in books than me. Any suggestions are most welcome: http://www.librarything.com/santathing_thing.php?id=65

93wester
Dec 5, 2017, 3:26am Top

Am I just unlucky, or does it get more difficult to find good Santees as the supply of good matches dwindles? The first years choosing was really enjoyable, but last year was nearly impossible (private library) and this year I really can't call it a good match - we have exactly one book in common and that's an ER one. She has one specific wish and that's over budget.

So, like the previous post: any suggestions are very welcome. Notice the budget. http://www.librarything.com/santathing_thing.php?id=159

94reading_fox
Dec 5, 2017, 5:10am Top

More budget questions - I'm looking at amazon.com from a different country. It's usefully showing me the dollar price, but everything is discounted by some amount. I've no idea if those are specific to me, or the price LT will see? Should I go for list price? Or just put a few alternates in?

95thebookmagpie
Dec 5, 2017, 7:42am Top

If anyone could give me a hand with the below I'd be really grateful - afraid this is a bit outside my wheelhouse this year!

https://www.librarything.com/santathing_thing.php?id=61

96tec4cleveland
Dec 5, 2017, 8:33am Top

I need help! I chose four books for my Santee. Her budget was 30.00. The total of the books (I kid you not) was 30.01. Can I donate the penny? (I'm sure Amazon would go, uh, no, if I keep things as they are now).

Thanks.

p.s. I'm Prime at Amazon. Will she get the Prime Prices, or should I sign out and choose as an anonymous buyer?

97majkia
Dec 5, 2017, 8:49am Top

oh goodness. don't worry about a penny over. That's great!

98Heather_Brock
Dec 5, 2017, 9:02am Top

I see that if you are over budget a book will be removed. What if you are under budget? Just glancing through some pages I have seen one significantly under budget. Will the Santa get a reminder to pick more books?

99Heather_Brock
Edited: Dec 5, 2017, 9:11am Top

http://www.librarything.com/santathing_thing.php?id=150

This is what I have come up with as close to budget as possible. They only want books that are 4 stars or over from their library (I realize I don't *have* to use their library). Any other suggestions are much appreciated!I want my Santee to be happy!

100Petroglyph
Edited: Dec 5, 2017, 9:12am Top

>99 Heather_Brock:
Your santee doesn't want books that already are in their library, they requested that you pick new books for them based on their four-star reads (or higher).

101Heather_Brock
Dec 5, 2017, 9:13am Top

I interpreted it as if you use my library just make sure they are 4 stars. The books I chose are not ones they have read yet and are tagged as to-read. What suggestions do you have? I'm not a hard science fiction reader or much of a nonfiction reader.

102Heather_Brock
Edited: Dec 5, 2017, 9:25am Top

What do you think of this?
REMOVED

I view it as science fiction and loved it.

103Petroglyph
Dec 5, 2017, 9:22am Top

>101 Heather_Brock:
I'm assuming the books in their catalogue are ones they own, even if they haven't read all of them yet.

I've left a few suggestions.

104Petroglyph
Dec 5, 2017, 9:24am Top

>102 Heather_Brock:
That might work. I haven't read it myself, though I have seen reviews that liked it a lot.

(ps: this thread is not private: your santee might see that suggestion)

105Heather_Brock
Dec 5, 2017, 9:25am Top

Thank you for the help. I'll edit the comment.

106lorannen
Edited: Dec 5, 2017, 10:38am Top

Good morning, all! Playing catch-up. :)

>93 wester: I think it varies what folks' definition of a "good" Santee is, so I'd disagree with that assessment. Different aspects of SantaThing are fun for different folks. I'm sorry you've got a difficult one this year. I'd guess they probably didn't realize they'd have $5 less to work with in their budget when they signed up—we do our best to make sure that's *very* clear during sign-up, but there are some limitations of the system.

If you'd like an additional Santee to do some more book-selecting for, I've got four this year, and could give you one of mine. I like selecting books (because of course I do), but you'd also be doing me a bit of a favor, as managing SantaThing eats into that book-picking time.

>94 reading_fox: It's kind of you to be concerned, but don't worry about jumping through too many hoops—just go by the prices you see. Amazon books are rarely list price (at least, not for long—usually that's only for brand-new releases), so you should be pretty close.

>96 tec4cleveland: A penny over is just fine! You clearly budgeted carefully on this, and that's impressive. Let's put it this way—we'd rather you go a penny over than $1 or more under budget. Thanks for checking!

>99 Heather_Brock: I think Petroglyph has set you on the right path, but I want to confirm that I agree with their read of things. I don't think you should select books already in your Santee's library.

107mabittle44
Dec 5, 2017, 10:38am Top

I need help! I'm not familiar with these genres and I want to get it right since it's for a young reader! http://www.librarything.com/santathing_thing.php?id=253

108tec4cleveland
Dec 5, 2017, 10:43am Top

Can I ask again ... the prices for the books I chose are based on my Prime membership (at least partially). Will Amazon give Prime prices when the books are ordered, or should I sign out and order with no access to Prime?

109greeneyed_ives
Dec 5, 2017, 10:47am Top

Hi! So I need some serious help with mine: http://www.librarything.com/santathing_thing.php?id=391. I appear to be selecting for a friend of the Santee, so I don't have a library to browse. The authors listed as a guide are of a genre that I am totally unfamiliar with and is the polar opposite of what I normally read. The other option suggested is difficult without knowing the ages of the kids. There is a lot I could choose, but I don't want to select something too young or too mature.

Help! This is the first year of this that I am completely stumped and don't even know where to begin.

110LibraryPerilous
Edited: Dec 5, 2017, 11:07am Top

>69 sallylou61:, >71 lorannen: Yes, there are a couple of things that make Book Depository messy, although Powell's always will win that prize. BD lists even OOP editions of titles, in case you want to search for them on Abe. Also, they sell both US and UK editions of books. So, they often have the UK hc and pb, then the released-later US hc and the forthcoming US pb available all at the same time. ETA: The slight pricing differences are due to exchange rate conversions on the MSRPs, I think. Ugh.

>107 mabittle44: Left a suggestion. Will leave another if a friend who likes manga gets back to me w/ her thoughts.

>95 thebookmagpie: Left some suggestions, as did another Santa.

111LibraryPerilous
Dec 5, 2017, 11:00am Top

>109 greeneyed_ives: Oof. I did find this link to a living books list and explainer. I left a suggestion for another author on the entry.

112ILuvBookplates
Dec 5, 2017, 11:03am Top

>108 tec4cleveland: From what I remember from someone asking that last year, we ignore the Prime pricing because the books aren't purchased using our own Prime accounts so we should look for books while signed out.

113lorannen
Dec 5, 2017, 11:17am Top

>108 tec4cleveland: Sorry, I wanted to take some time to actually look for price discrepancies between when I'm signed in to my (Prime-having) account, vs. not. I don't actually see any difference in book prices. They're the same regardless of whether I'm signed in or not. Prime, in my experience, typically has more discounts related to shipping, which we definitely can't take advantage of. So, I think don't stress about it, and take prices you see at face value.

114Heather_Brock
Dec 5, 2017, 12:03pm Top

Thanks Lorannen. I made changes and hopefully am all set and did a better job this next time through.

115Heather_Brock
Dec 5, 2017, 12:04pm Top

Lorannen, any word on this? I see that if you are over budget a book will be removed. What if you are under budget? Just glancing through some pages I have seen one significantly under budget. Will the Santa get a reminder to pick more books?

116rosalita
Dec 5, 2017, 12:07pm Top

>115 Heather_Brock: Not everyone does all their picking in one sit-down session. When I've participated in the past, I would do it over the course of several days, making sure to finish before the deadline of course. So just because someone appears to be under budget doesn't mean they've finished making their picks.

117Heather_Brock
Edited: Dec 5, 2017, 12:10pm Top

Totally understand this. I'd still appreciate a hypothetical answer just in case. :) I'd hate for anyone to get shorted ya know?

118rosalita
Edited: Dec 5, 2017, 12:14pm Top

I totally understand that. :-) No one will get shorted — if picks are still short after the deadline, Loranne will either ask for volunteers to make more suggestions or the LT elves will make picks themselves. But the real fun is after the deadline, when Loranne asks for volunteers for those poor Santees whose Santas did not pick for them at all! There are always some up for grabs, so if you are itching to do more picking keep an eye out!

119lorannen
Dec 5, 2017, 12:18pm Top

>115 Heather_Brock: Sorry, I thought I'd covered this up-thread in >83 lorannen: . When LT staff place orders, we're paying close attention to the Santee's budget. If someone's significantly under, we'll add in another, or make a substitution as needed to bring them up to the proper amount. You'll see me posting here in this thread once ordering time comes around, with requests for suggestions in those cases.

120zjakkelien
Dec 5, 2017, 12:19pm Top

>117 Heather_Brock: If someone is seriously under budget, this will get noticed in the ordering process. If there are suggestions within the price range already in the comments, one of those might get picked. Otherwise Lorannen and her elves will post a link in this thread and ask for help in making suggestions. It's usually a popular job, to get assigned extra book-picking... So come back here around the time the ordering gets done to help out if you like.
Overall, just assume that the LT elves are reasonable, generous, and have common sense themselves; they wouldn't let anyone get shorted! If I remember correctly, they even check to make sure no-one picked a book that the santee already owns.

121Heather_Brock
Dec 5, 2017, 12:23pm Top

I definitely will! Thank you so much!

122Heather_Brock
Dec 5, 2017, 12:23pm Top

Awesome. Thank you so much for the clarification. Sorry to be a bother!

123Heather_Brock
Dec 5, 2017, 12:24pm Top

Fantastic! This is only my second year participating and I would love to help if needed when that time comes. Thank you for your response!

124lorannen
Dec 5, 2017, 12:33pm Top

>123 Heather_Brock: No bother at all! And just to confirm, >120 zjakkelien: is right—in recent years, my fellow staff elves have been helping me check Santas' picks against Santees' libraries. It's not automated (that's tricky and time-consuming to do), and we're only human, so occasionally we miss one. But we think it's worth the time, and it's better than rolling the dice.

125Helenoel
Dec 5, 2017, 12:37pm Top

I think you should not use Prime prices - Santa is not a Prime member- or at least does not ahve your membership

126rretzler
Dec 5, 2017, 1:10pm Top

I've picked 5 books for my Santee currently and they are ones that I would really like to give. Unfortunately, I am 35 cents over their total. If I leave off the least expensive book, I will be $2.65 short - and I've found a really good book for $2.99 that I would like to include.

Can I make up the $0.35 shortfall? I really like all of my selections.

127lorannen
Dec 5, 2017, 1:15pm Top

>126 rretzler: Sure! Feel free to send us a donation to cover the extra via our Donate button (scroll down to the bottom of the page). Just email me once you've done so, so I can make note of it for the ordering phase.

128tec4cleveland
Edited: Dec 5, 2017, 1:51pm Top

I was afraid of that. Ok, back to the drawing board! EDIT: It actually didn't make any difference on pricing -- I logged out and went back to the books I chose were the same price. Whew!

129tec4cleveland
Dec 5, 2017, 1:52pm Top

Last question: I have chosen and saved the books. Is that it? Or do I need to do anything else?

130Petroglyph
Dec 5, 2017, 2:00pm Top

>129 tec4cleveland:
No, that should suffice. Close the tab and open the page again, if you want to double-check. But filling out the cells and clicking save should do the trick.

131zjakkelien
Dec 5, 2017, 2:01pm Top

>129 tec4cleveland: You could leave a message for your santee?

>124 lorannen: I think it's great that you take the trouble to check. It would be disappointing to get something you already own!

132thebookmagpie
Dec 5, 2017, 2:15pm Top

If I'm 54c over is that okay or should I donate the extra?

133zjakkelien
Edited: Dec 5, 2017, 2:37pm Top

Question: the store I have to pick from is print bookstore, and they sometimes say at 'availability': special order. Is that ok to pick?

134ILuvBookplates
Dec 5, 2017, 2:37pm Top

Even if you plan to go back and change your book selections or add to them, be sure to click save before leaving the selections page!

135greeneyed_ives
Edited: Dec 5, 2017, 3:31pm Top

>111 LibraryPerilous: Thank you so much for the author suggestion! I had browsed the linked list, but without knowing the ages of the kids, it makes it somewhat difficult to pick. I'm leaning towards a more advanced title, assuming they can grow into it if they are too young. Thanks again!

136lorannen
Dec 5, 2017, 3:37pm Top

>132 thebookmagpie: Yeah, that's too far over, I'm afraid. If you'd like to donate the extra, see >127 lorannen:, but absolutely don't feel like you have to do so.

>133 zjakkelien: I'm reasonably sure special order items are okay for Print. I've contacted the folks there just to make sure, and will post again once I've got official word. For now, feel free to add them.

137zjakkelien
Dec 5, 2017, 3:42pm Top

>136 lorannen: Great, thank you! I have picked books for both scenarios, so I will post the alternative solution in the comments.

138thebookmagpie
Dec 5, 2017, 4:28pm Top

I've donated the extra Loranne - it's no problem :)

139EllsieFind
Dec 5, 2017, 5:28pm Top

>93 wester: Hi Wester. I agree that it is hard to confidently make selections without a public library to check them against.

Not sure if this will help others in this situation but one of the things I'm doing is googling "great books you've never heard of" and similar searches. Then I research the book, the author, who is recommending it, and how it rates at LT, Goodreads, and Amazon to see if the book sounds at all reasonable. Not foolproof but I figure that this technique might garner me at least one or two unique books so that I can surprise my shy Santee. (Plus, LOL, I've added some of these obscurities to my own wishlist).

If it ends up that my Santee has my picks then, hopefully, the books will make some nice holiday gifts for his/her friends and family.

>106 lorannen: Lorannen, I'd be happy to take one of your extra Santees if they have a public library.

140thesarawalker
Dec 5, 2017, 7:24pm Top

Hi. I'm new to SantaThing. Super excited!! But, I do have a question. The person I'm buying for has requested that I shop on amazon.com. When I shop there it gives me the prices for Prime members, as that's what I am. Are those the prices I should be looking at, or should I be looking at the actual retail price? I have so many ideas, but I don't want to go super far over their amount. (Although I did just notice that if you do go over a little bit you can donate the rest? That's good to know :) )

Thanks!

141Myckyee
Dec 5, 2017, 8:06pm Top

I need some suggestions please. The person I have doesn't want kindle but it seems that's all that's popping up. And the prices are not adding up either, they're over by too much. I found two good (I think!) possibilities but then, once again, I realized they are over her budget. If anyone can give some suggestions I would really appreciate the help!

http://www.librarything.com/santathing_thing.php?id=348

142saroz
Dec 5, 2017, 8:49pm Top

lorannen: I noticed you said you have some extra Santees. I'd be happy to take one or more off your hands for you if you like. :)

143Capybara_99
Dec 5, 2017, 9:07pm Top

lorannen: if you are still looking for someone to adopt a Santee, I'd be happy to help.

144rosalita
Dec 5, 2017, 9:07pm Top

See Loranne’s message at >113 lorannen:. She answered this already.

145WornKeyboard
Dec 6, 2017, 9:55am Top

Hey! I haven't received someone to give books to yet. I shot out an email to Lorannen. Just posting it here too. (Librarything noob here.)

146tec4cleveland
Dec 6, 2017, 10:25am Top

I went through this, too. When an item is marked as Prime, it reflects savings on shipping, but it doesn't change the prices (at least it didn't on the ones I chose). If you're not sure, log out of your account and check the books that way.

147lorannen
Dec 6, 2017, 12:42pm Top

>145 WornKeyboard: Got it! Emailing you shortly.

148lorannen
Dec 6, 2017, 12:54pm Top

>133 zjakkelien: Update on the "Special order" items from Print—I just heard back from them, and apparently that indicates there will be a significant delay, so please avoid those items.

A little more context from my conversation with Print: If Print lists a book as a "Special Order," its likely that there's a significant delay. The "Usually Ships Within 1-5 Days" note means that the book is either in stock in the store, or in stock at the wholesaler. Special Order means it's currently hard to get, or only available at this time directly from the publisher (which adds a bit of delay).

149libraryperilous
Edited: Dec 6, 2017, 2:34pm Top

Blargh. (Blergh?)

The book I most want to get one of my Santees is available on the Amazon Canada website. It looks like they do actually have it in stock through Amazon itself, but it's neither the choice nor the seller that pops up if you click the actual link to the book or search for it by ISBN. You have to select the "more buying choices" options to see the 21.19 option that Amazon sells and they note qualifies for free shipping on orders over $35CDN.

Here's the link showing the shipping options. Anyway, if it passes muster, I don't mind leaving a detailed note for the elves. I just wanted to make sure it actually does work.

Thanks!

ETA: Okay, almost every book returns a third party seller w/ a higher-priced new book as the main option. You have to click "more buying choices" to find the lower-priced new books that are shipped from and sold by Amazon. Either I am doing something wrong or Amazon Canada has a silly website. Anyway, I get it now, but still!

Edited to correct abbreviation

150lorannen
Dec 6, 2017, 2:34pm Top

>149 libraryperilous: Yeah, that's out of bounds, unfortunately. I've seen a few listings like that before, and the prices and stock aren't usually stable enough to be reliable for SantaThing. I'm sorry.

151libraryperilous
Edited: Dec 6, 2017, 2:48pm Top

>150 lorannen: Okay, thanks. I'd be surprised if anyone else buys any of the choices I'd made, but I totally understand. :)

(Btw, even bestsellers and newer releases I spot-checked are returning these kinds of results. The Martian, for goodness' sake! I finally found some classic novels that didn't, but grrr.)

On that note, I'm pretty open to suggestions on this entry, since my first through eleventy billionth ideas have tanked.

I have access to the Santee's Goodreads library, so don't stress about whether it would be a duplicate. I'll check that before I order.

Thanks, all.

152owlie13
Dec 6, 2017, 4:45pm Top

I'm having a real hard time with Amazon.ca. I've looked at 5 books so far, and each one is out of stock at Amazon.ca. They have "alternate sellers", including from the UK, but I'm assuming I shouldn't go that route. I'm afraid I'm going to end up having to gift books I'm not that crazy about!

153lorannen
Edited: Dec 6, 2017, 4:50pm Top

>152 owlie13: You don't seem to be alone in this. I've heard from a couple other folks that a lot of books seem to be out of stock on Amazon.ca. As in years past, we can't order out of stock items for SantaThing, but if you'd like to leave us a note with your top out of stock picks in a comment, in case they get restocked in the next week, we'll be happy to order them, if at all possible. I'm sorry for the extra hassle.

154owlie13
Dec 6, 2017, 5:11pm Top

Thanks! I'll do that. I've got one or two I was really looking forward to gifting, so I'll put that info in a comment.

155camelama
Edited: Dec 6, 2017, 7:03pm Top

I am also seriously struggling with amazon.ca. Every single book i pick has been like this - and I have now tried 13 books! I put in my top choices anyway while I came here to ask what everyone else has already pointed out!

Help? What do I do?

156dianeham
Dec 6, 2017, 7:51pm Top

Lorannen, i see there are still many unpicked Santees. If you need people to take more, I gladly volunteer for more.

157lorannen
Dec 6, 2017, 8:19pm Top

>155 camelama: I'm starting to get concerned that we may have to move some Amazon.ca orders to a different store. I'm sorry this is proving so difficult! Do the best you can, and feel free to put your initial picks (even temporarily out of stock ones) in a comment on the SantaThing profile. I'm crossing my fingers that things will come back in stock next week.

>156 dianeham: Thanks for the offer! Just to clarify, in case anyone is worried—Santees that are marked as "unpicked" are still matched with someone—that just means their Santa hasn't submitted their choices yet. We've still got until Monday before we open up unpicked Santees for last-minute volunteer Santas. I'll definitely need your (and anyone else who's around) help then!

158rosalita
Dec 6, 2017, 8:22pm Top

And to piggyback on what Loraine said: Many people make their picks on the weekend when they have time to be thoughtful about their choices to get their Santee the very best books. I am not participating this year, but in the past when I did I found it offputtting that people assumed anyone who didn’t make their picks in the first couple of days was some kind of Santa deadbeat. It really ruins the Christmas spirit, to be honest, and is one reason I chose not to participate this year.

159LibraryCin
Dec 6, 2017, 8:25pm Top

That sounds so odd about amazon.ca. I wonder if there's something going on there!?

160LibraryCin
Edited: Dec 6, 2017, 8:29pm Top

>158 rosalita: Yes! This is usually me (making my choices on the weekend because I have more time). I did start last night, as I got kind of excited about it all this year (and had a bit of extra time!).

161LibraryCin
Dec 6, 2017, 8:28pm Top

Now, I have a question about book depository. Are any of their books under $10? I would like to choose 3 books, but the main book I wanted to choose is expensive enough that I need one that's under $10 to be able to include it, but the lowest priced one I've found so far is almost $13. I will keep looking, but...

162lorannen
Dec 6, 2017, 8:33pm Top

>159 LibraryCin: Yeah, I've done some brief Googling but haven't found anything out. I'm going to try chatting with their customer support and see if that gets me anywhere.

>161 LibraryCin: On BD, I usually go hunting for Mass Market editions or classics if I'm aiming for

163lorannen
Dec 6, 2017, 8:33pm Top

I don't want to alarm our Amazon.ca Santees just yet, but I'll put out a general call—if anyone who's currently selected Amazon.ca as their store would like or be willing to switch over to say, Book Depository, let me know.

164libraryperilous
Edited: Dec 6, 2017, 8:42pm Top

>161 LibraryCin: Yes, quite a few, and they usually have a good variety of different editions of classics for between 3-10 US. You might even be able to find two of those! If you'd like some suggestions, post either the entry link or the genre of books you need. We might have some ideas!

>158 rosalita: I'm so sorry you had that experience and decided to skip it this year. >156 dianeham: offer was made in a generous spirit, but I know some people can be Grinchy about SantaThing things.

>156 dianeham: Yes, picking up the orphaned Santees is one of my favorite parts. Once the selection time closes on Monday (around noon EST, I think), lorannen will release the orphans. You then can pick one or some and serve as their Santa. I like to browse the unpicked entries on the last day and target a couple I think are good fits for my reading interests.

re: the ongoing saga of the store that may be worse than Powell's this year, I'd be happy to try to send their customer service a message. But, even if it's a simple error, I'm not sure they'd be able to fix it in time for SantaThing ordering. Book Depository has all my top choices neatly arrayed ... just sayin'. :)

ETA: Strike the customer service offer: Loranne's on that.

165LibraryCin
Edited: Dec 6, 2017, 8:54pm Top

>162 lorannen: Thank you for the suggestions!

For amazon.ca, I just searched a few I was looking for as options for my Santee, just to test, and most of them came up as available (though not all). So, not sure what's happening there!

166LibraryCin
Dec 6, 2017, 8:51pm Top

>164 libraryperilous: I guess classics are not usually what I would pick, so we'll see. I'll keep trying. Thanks!

167LibraryCin
Dec 6, 2017, 8:54pm Top

amazon.ca is my preferred choice. How does it work for shipping if we were to switch, though? I chose my price point specifically so I wouldn't lose money to shipping costs (otherwise I might have gone less to save a bit of money), but if something is shipped form the US...? That would be disappointing to lose some of the money to shipping costs.

168lorannen
Dec 6, 2017, 8:58pm Top

>167 LibraryCin: Book Depository has free shipping everywhere, which is why I suggested that. It would be your best second-bet.

169dianeham
Dec 6, 2017, 8:59pm Top

For the record, my santee was on the picked list before I picked books for her/him. Therefore I thought unpicked meant unassigned to a santa.

170lorannen
Dec 6, 2017, 9:00pm Top

>169 dianeham: If you've saved anything in the SantaThing form at all, even if it's not your final selections, then they get marked as picked. Maybe you saved once before you were done?

171libraryperilous
Dec 6, 2017, 9:06pm Top

>166 LibraryCin: You're welcome. They usually have a variety of genre mass market paperbacks, too. And some of their trade paperbacks get discounted down under $10.

For example: Ancillary Justice is $8.13. There are multiple copies of Liane Moriarty's Big Little Lies for around $9. There are quite a few James Patterson mysteries for between $6-8. And so forth. Good luck!

172lorannen
Edited: Dec 6, 2017, 9:09pm Top

Well, that was an exercise in frustration. I didn't really get a straight answer, other than customer service trying to tell me it was totally fine to order things marked as "Usually ships in 2-3 days" because they'll be back in stock by Monday. Which... doesn't help me much.

I also tried asking about Amazon-fulfilled items that show up under "## new from $$" links. They claimed they were, indeed, Amazon-fulfilled items, but are separate from the main page because the price is higher? Which has been patently false in a couple of instances (see >149 libraryperilous:).

ETA: Now I'm ... tweeting at them.

173libraryperilous
Edited: Dec 6, 2017, 9:14pm Top

Now I'm ... tweeting at them.

Oh dear god ...

I'm so sorry you have to deal with this.

Also, fwiw, all of my top picks for my Santee were cheaper through Amazon. The third-party option that showed up when I clicked on the titles was pricier every time. In fact, even the alternate titles were this way.

Edited: HTML error

174LibraryCin
Dec 6, 2017, 9:16pm Top

Oh, I didn't realize! Thank you!

175LibraryCin
Dec 6, 2017, 9:17pm Top

>171 libraryperilous: Thanks, again! I found one I might go with. Maybe not my first choice, but if I don't find others, I might go with it. :-)

176Cfraser
Dec 6, 2017, 9:18pm Top

Hello all,
For Book depository there seems to be discounts on some books - i.e there is a price that is crossed out and a different price (and below that the saving) - unsure what is the price I should base my selections on? Below is an example

https://www.bookdepository.com/Embassytown-China-Mieville/9780330533072?ref=grid-view&qid=1512612501296&sr=1-1

177LibraryCin
Dec 6, 2017, 9:21pm Top

Ah, found another under $10 that I'm happier with! Having much better luck tonight!

178libraryperilous
Edited: Dec 6, 2017, 9:26pm Top

lol, the hardcover edition of What Happened is priced at $25.79 on the results list and the option that you get if you click on the title. But if you pick the '35 new from 18.85' link, guess which one is at the top of list? Surprise, it's the $18.85 price through Amazon.ca!

Also, the same handful of sellers, including BWBCANADA, keeps popping up as that main option.

Adjusts tin foil hat, puts on scholar's robe, and reduces heart to pre-transformation Grinch size: "I bet they have an agreement with third-party sellers this holiday season, since books aren't their primary moneymaker, and they just don't want to admit it."

>175 LibraryCin: No problem. I'm glad you found something that will work if you can't find one you like a little bit more. :)

179lorannen
Dec 6, 2017, 9:30pm Top

>178 libraryperilous: Yeah, I'm thoroughly confused about those. And, unsurprisingly, their Twitter responses have been similarly designed to reassure, not inform.

So, for folks picking on Amazon.ca, do what you can. If you need to put in titles that say "ships in 2-3 days" maybe that's just what we go with. There's only so much we can do.

I doubt they'd be forthcoming if there were a real stock issue, anyway.

180lorannen
Dec 6, 2017, 9:31pm Top

I've developed Cat On Lap Syndrome, and must go feed the beasts. I'll be back in a little while.

181ILuvBookplates
Dec 6, 2017, 9:32pm Top

I'm going to jump in on the picked/unpicked discussion for no particular reason. I could have sworn that last year as people were matched up after the sign-up ended, they automatically moved down to the bottom of the page under the picked header. I was thinking this afternoon that you must be having a problem with the program that matches everyone because so many were still at the upper part of the page.

182LibraryCin
Dec 6, 2017, 9:33pm Top

Ok... having better luck today because everything is cheaper today???? I'm re-searching the ones I looked at yesterday, and they are coming up $3-$5 cheaper today... Odd.

183LibraryCin
Dec 6, 2017, 9:34pm Top

>180 lorannen: LOL! I get that! Mine were around while I was eating, but surprisingly (maybe not!?) they disappeared once my bowl was empty, as well!

184lorannen
Edited: Dec 6, 2017, 9:37pm Top

>181 ILuvBookplates: Yes, that does happen, but that's a) in a different phase of SantaThing, after gift-picking ends, and b) I think the headers are a little different (i.e. you have picked, unpicked, and unclaimed). If they're not, maybe we should come up with a different designation to avoid confusion!

>183 LibraryCin: Momo doesn't like SantaThing because I won't play—I've been getting a lecture.

185ILuvBookplates
Dec 6, 2017, 9:41pm Top

Last year, I thought the most fun of all was helping to find selections for the people who for whatever reason had not been able to make their selections before time was running out.

186libraryperilous
Dec 6, 2017, 9:43pm Top

>185 ILuvBookplates: My favorite parts are that and leaving suggestions if elves ask for help during ordering.

187camelama
Edited: Dec 6, 2017, 9:50pm Top

Thanks Lorannen! I will do my best and list more possibilities in a ccomment. Thank you again for all your hard work!

ETA: I turned on the heated cat bed and poof! Cleared my lap instantly! ;)

188LibraryCin
Edited: Dec 6, 2017, 10:02pm Top

So, as it is now with what I'd like to go with, I can be under by $1.48 or over by 46 cents. Sigh... I'm guessing both of those is too much!

ETA: A slightly different combo puts me at $1.09 under.

ETA (again): trying all kinds of combinations and the closest I've gotten so far is 34 cents over.

189LibraryCin
Dec 6, 2017, 10:08pm Top

I think I finally got the right combination! Only 34 cents under! I'll probably add in some others in the comments as additional recommendations. :-)

190lorannen
Edited: Dec 6, 2017, 10:10pm Top

>189 LibraryCin: That's good work. I had someone donate a few dollars today to the SantaThing overage fund. Don't sweat it.

191LibraryCin
Dec 6, 2017, 10:16pm Top

It's always fun! I can't believe I took away from some of tonight's reading time to finish. Normally I would leave it to finish till the weekend! LOL!

192ryvre
Dec 6, 2017, 10:22pm Top

I work out my choices in a spreadsheet so I can try a bunch of different combinations then enter them over the weekend. I tend to change my mind a lot as new options pop into my head or prices fluctuate. Plus, I like leaving my santees in the unpicked section for a few days to see if I get any awesome suggestions.

193LibraryCin
Dec 6, 2017, 10:24pm Top

>192 ryvre: Ahhhh, good thoughts! And as I noticed the past 2 days, with price fluctuations between $3 and $5 for each book!!!! That might have been a better way to go! Maybe I'll double check it on the weekend, just to be sure.

194JerryMmm
Dec 7, 2017, 5:28am Top

pfff, $25 is hard to pick for on BD. $30 would be good, I'd get 3 books out of no problem.

195MOQLibrary
Edited: Dec 7, 2017, 8:56am Top

Hi everyone, it's my first year on SantaThing... it's been so much fun picking for my two Santees :) but I'm stumped for http://www.librarything.com/santathing_thing.php?id=279 This Santee seems open but their personal collection has very different books from what I'm used to. Any suggestions are welcome! -no romance

196MrsLee
Dec 7, 2017, 9:11am Top

I am certainly waiting for the weekend to choose for my Santee, as even reading this thread takes up more time in my morning before work than I should be giving it. :)

197libraryperilous
Edited: Dec 7, 2017, 9:23am Top

>195 MOQLibrary: I'm working on some suggestions now, but the two picks you already have made are very good.

Also, everyone on LibraryThing uses ratings differently. But, your Santee doesn't have too many pages of five-star books (when sorted by rating), and really not that many pages of four-star ratings, either. So, in this case, you probably are okay picking readalikes for their four- and even three-star books.

ETA: Ah, one of her favorite authors is Jill Ker Conway, and she has one five-star and two three-star ratings on those books.

198tealadytoo
Dec 7, 2017, 10:51am Top

Probably an obvious question here, but I don't want to mess this up on my first try. :=)

I picked the books, and I think I'm far enough below the person's total amount to cover sales tax without going over.

That ends up being 9 books. The submission area has five slots. Can I submit the first five, and then submit the rest in a second batch without overwriting the first? Or is there a way to add lines?

Thanks much. Picking was a lot of fun!

199calm
Dec 7, 2017, 10:56am Top

>198 tealadytoo: You can add any extra picks in the comments section. Your comments are a different colour and the SantaThing Elves will see.

200tealadytoo
Dec 7, 2017, 11:05am Top

>199 calm: Thanks!

201reading_fox
Dec 7, 2017, 11:50am Top

Any suggestions for historical fantasy in the $6 range??

I've got loads of options at $8+ but need a 2nd book for a total of $15 and am really struggling.

202tealadytoo
Dec 7, 2017, 12:10pm Top

>201 reading_fox: Print or Kindle?

203libraryperilous
Edited: Dec 7, 2017, 3:09pm Top

>201 reading_fox: If it's Kindle, there are a few from the Tor line of novellas line that are 3.99 each, so you could then bump up the other pick to a $10-11. Things like River of Teeth.

If you need a dead tree book, I'll have to dig further. Are they open to YA or middle grade titles? That would widen the field.

ETA: I've heard good things about The Paper Magician books. The first one is $6.32 in pb on Amazon.

ETA2: If they already have Eric Flint's books in their library and don't hate them, a couple of the Ring of Fire and Assiti Shards titles are around 5.95 on Amazon.

204reading_fox
Edited: Dec 7, 2017, 5:40pm Top

Thanks - Print. Specifically no YA. 1632 series fits perfectly. Much appreciated.

205libraryperilous
Dec 7, 2017, 6:14pm Top

You're welcome, >204 reading_fox:.

206lorannen
Dec 7, 2017, 6:35pm Top

Well, you'd think after four years of doing SantaThing (this is my 5th ST), I'd have something in mind for just about every book request out there, but I'm stuck. Anyone who's good with cookbooks (particularly of the vegan persuasion) have some suggestions they could share with me? https://www.librarything.com/santathing_thing.php?id=133.

207Lyndatrue
Dec 7, 2017, 7:05pm Top

>206 lorannen: I made a couple of suggestions. I really love cookbooks. :-}

208libraryperilous
Edited: Dec 7, 2017, 7:15pm Top

>206 lorannen: It looks like she's asking for the two vegan cookbooks and then other books about veganism?

I'll leave a couple of cookbook suggestions on the entry. You might also try searching my library for the word vegan. Once upon a time, I read some vegan lifestyle books.

ETA: Hmm, those books aren't coming up. I wonder if I deleted them. Anyway, Tracey Stewart's Do unto Animals is good.

209MOQLibrary
Dec 7, 2017, 7:11pm Top

One last question I promise! I selected all the books for my second Santee: http://www.librarything.com/santathing_thing.php?id=125#choose on BookDepository.

I'm just within the price limit with $1.17 left, which is fine. However, all the books are discounted on book depository (they each have a pink price with varying percentages off like 40% off and 17% off).

Will the LT helpers be placing the orders in time to get those Book Depository sale prices? Otherwise, the books I chose will be over the limit by ten bucks. :(

210libraryperilous
Dec 7, 2017, 7:20pm Top

>209 MOQLibrary: You should be fine. BD discounts, like Amazon does, they just make it look pretty. :)

211noveltea88
Dec 7, 2017, 7:20pm Top

Im a Santee that chose Amazon.ca and Im sorry to hear its causing so much frustration! I would be happy to change my store choice to Book Depository if required.

212MOQLibrary
Dec 7, 2017, 7:36pm Top

Yay that's a relief. Just wanted to double-check. :)

213lorannen
Dec 7, 2017, 7:37pm Top

>211 noveltea88: Thank you! I appreciate you being flexible on that. I don't want to disrupt Santas who've already done/are in the middle of their picking, but I'll make note for your entry that, if your Santa's picks aren't coming up as available on Amazon, I can look to Book Depository instead. Thanks so much!

214lorannen
Dec 7, 2017, 7:38pm Top

>209 MOQLibrary: Echoing >210 libraryperilous:, yep, you're good. On top of the fact that they're not likely to change, we can't ask Santas to forecast bookseller's sales/sale prices. If they do change, staff will work around it when we're placing your Santee's order.

215owlie13
Dec 7, 2017, 8:43pm Top

So, I'm over by $1.79. Given my luck at finding books, I'm going to go with this, and donate $5.00 to the general fund. I figure LT can always use the extra! I'll email with the information.

216LibraryCin
Edited: Dec 7, 2017, 10:23pm Top

>209 MOQLibrary: Will the LT helpers be placing the orders in time to get those Book Depository sale prices? Otherwise, the books I chose will be over the limit by ten bucks.

That's a good question because that will make a big difference for mine, as well!

ETA: And I see it's been answered. Funny thing. there was a $3-$5 difference on the same books when I looked on Monday and again on Tuesday.

217lorannen
Dec 7, 2017, 11:07pm Top

>216 LibraryCin: It does happen sometimes that prices change slightly, but we can't ask Santas to watch all their picks constantly for changes, or wait until the last minute to make their selections at all. That's why we check over the order when we place it!

218LibraryCin
Edited: Dec 7, 2017, 11:41pm Top

>217 lorannen: I'm just really hoping the prices won't change that much by the time you order! I'd really like to see my Santee get all the ones I chose! :-)

219MrsLee
Dec 8, 2017, 8:44am Top

>213 lorannen: I sent an email, but to be double sure, I signed one of my accounts up for Amazon.ca, and you are welcome to change it to BD if needed.

220libraryperilous
Edited: Dec 8, 2017, 4:10pm Top

Whew. I have never been so happy to leave a book website before.

Also, sorry, Elves, about the formatting fail on that entry.

Thanks again to everyone who left suggestions for me. They all were very helpful.

221lorannen
Dec 8, 2017, 4:35pm Top

>219 MrsLee: Thanks so much! I've made a note that I can move that one if needed. I'm going to do my best to stick with the store you (and all Santees) chose initially, but I really appreciate your letting me move yours if I have to. That's a big weight off my shoulders!

>220 libraryperilous: I'm sorry it was so stressful! I feel your pain.

222libraryperilous
Dec 8, 2017, 5:08pm Top

>221 lorannen: No worries! Also, I will be happy to post cute cats in Santa hats photos on this thread when you start ordering from Amazon.ca. :)

223lorannen
Dec 8, 2017, 5:09pm Top

>222 libraryperilous: Now that is something to look forward to :D

224Heather_Brock
Dec 9, 2017, 8:58am Top

http://www.librarything.com/santathing_thing.php?id=150

Do these choices seem alright? I tried to vary the tastes.

225TheDivineOomba
Dec 9, 2017, 9:55am Top

I think they are perfect!

226LDVoorberg
Dec 9, 2017, 10:32am Top

I also selected Amazon.ca but for no reason other than their warehouse is within an hour of my house. I'm good with Book Depository if that makes someone's life easier.

227LibraryCin
Dec 9, 2017, 12:11pm Top

I should have mentioned that I would be ok with a switch from amazon.ca to book depository, as well, if it's not too late. I hadn't initially realized that shipping is free to Canada from them.

228lorannen
Dec 9, 2017, 12:50pm Top

>226 LDVoorberg: and >227 LibraryCin: That's wonderful, thank you! It's not too late at all. I don't start placing orders until Monday. As I mentioned to another kind member who was up for the switch, I'm going to do my best with Amazon.ca and try their Santa's picks there, first. I'll only move your orders to BD if I absolutely have to, and I'll message you if that's the case.

Thanks so much!

229libraryperilous
Dec 9, 2017, 1:15pm Top

>224 Heather_Brock: Great variety of picks!

230guido47
Dec 9, 2017, 11:46pm Top

Please tell me again why...

1) I can't gift a film (even though Tim accepted them 2+ years ago.
2) Even though my santee has several hundred Kindles I am not allowed to pick one.
3) Amazon Canada is really a sh.t site.
4) I have about CND$12 left over. Yes there are many Kindles...BUT...

5) Any help accepted.

Guido.

231lorannen
Dec 10, 2017, 12:11am Top

>230 guido47: Thanks for your questions, I'll answer them in a similar format.

1) I don't know anything about Tim allowing films in SantaThing. I've been doing this since 2013, and the only non-book items we've ordered/shipped for SantaThing in that time has been LT merch, by the Santee's special request. SantaThing is billed as Secret Santa for books! And we like to stick to that.
2) Due to Amazon shenanigans, we can't mix-and-match ebook and print copies for SantaThing. Your Santee did not select Kindle (or another ebook store) as their store of choice. Ergo, we can assume they don't want ebook copies.
3) I'm sorry. I don't have an answer for this one, but if you've read this thread up to this point, you'll know I don't disagree with you.
4) Classics are usually my go-to when I'm looking for a book at a lower price point. I've had a few folks who've generously donated a little extra to cover slight overages in SantaThing orders. I can extend a dollar or two of that fund to your Santee, if it helps. Just let me know.

232guido47
Dec 10, 2017, 1:47am Top

Thanks >231 lorannen: I find I am actually a bit under, so you can distribute this excess to someone else in my situation. I liked your idea of the Classics, but Canada didn't have a version of my favourite books by author "Steinbeck". I think I will start lobbying for the option to order second hand books from the various sources. Amazon.ca seems to sell very few NEW/no e-books. After about 5 years of Santa I hope I never get Canada again. Bah Humbug :-)

233libraryperilous
Dec 10, 2017, 10:41am Top

>232 guido47: I couldn't find any Steinbecks that were close enough to the 12CAD, but here's a link to Middlemarch: link. There were a couple of Anne Brontë books in the price range as well.

234lorannen
Dec 10, 2017, 1:49pm Top

We're a little past the 24-hour mark for gift picking wrapping up! Reminders are going out now. If you're ahead of the game and already done shopping for your Santee, it's a great time to leave suggestions on other SantaThing profiles that are still showing as "Unpicked" on the SantaThing page!

235Candice_oxo
Dec 10, 2017, 2:26pm Top

>234 lorannen: When do we start to get to adopt "orphaned" santees? ;) That's sometimes my favorite part! Swooping in and picking for someone who has been left behind!

236lorannen
Dec 10, 2017, 2:31pm Top

>235 Candice_oxo: Tomorrow afternoon, once the gift-picking window has officially closed (that's at 12pm EST tomorrow).

237LibraryCin
Dec 10, 2017, 2:59pm Top

>234 lorannen: That's what I'm doing a bit of today!

238gentlespirit512
Dec 10, 2017, 5:16pm Top

If I get the last book I wanted to get the Santee, I'll be 60 cents over. Then tax. Should I just choose another book instead?

239gentlespirit512
Dec 10, 2017, 5:22pm Top

Do we need to worry about tax? I'm 60 cents over before tax is included? Thanks!

240lorannen
Dec 10, 2017, 5:36pm Top

>239 gentlespirit512: Don't worry about it. That's just fine!

241gentlespirit512
Dec 10, 2017, 7:16pm Top

OK, finished picking. I clicked save and added a comment with other suggestions. I clicked save changes, and I don't know if it will save the picks.

242lorannen
Dec 10, 2017, 7:34pm Top

>241 gentlespirit512: If you click "Save Choices" that's all you need to do. Just make sure you click the "Save Choices" button, and not the one further down which saves a comment.

You can see if your picks are saved by refreshing the SantaThing profile page, or opening the same in another window (that way you don't lose your progress if you haven't saved properly). If your selections appear there, you're good to go.

243gentlespirit512
Dec 10, 2017, 7:49pm Top

Yeah, I clicked the one further down and had to do it all over again! LOL

244Tropical-Library
Dec 10, 2017, 11:40pm Top

>243 gentlespirit512: I had the same problem, but my back button gave me the page with the entries and I saved it there. Worked fine

245karenb
Dec 11, 2017, 4:38am Top

Thanks for that reminder, by the way.

246JerryMmm
Dec 11, 2017, 8:46am Top

got mine done and left some other possibilities in the comments that didn't fit in the budget.

247libraryperilous
Dec 11, 2017, 8:58am Top

>242 lorannen: Just popping in to say that it looks like this entry actually isn't unpicked. The Santa apparently forgot to save their picks before saving their comment. There's enough information in their comment for the Elves to order the titles they've chosen.

248serendipitina
Dec 11, 2017, 9:40am Top

Absolutely love SantaThing every year! Thanks for doing this year in and year out. Also doing the card exchange for the first time this year and am very excited.

249MrsLee
Dec 11, 2017, 9:51am Top

I may have goofed again. I put my extra suggestions in the boxes, but noted in the comments that the first three were my first choices. Hope that doesn't mess anyone up! I thought it would be helpful to have all the info. Was I wrong? Because I was pretty proud of myself for getting as close to budget as I did for my first three choices!

250Petroglyph
Dec 11, 2017, 10:01am Top

I got to 49.24 US dollars by converting from UK Pounds (my budget was $50). I've left alternate suggestions in case you need to bump the total up or down a little bit.

251lorannen
Dec 11, 2017, 10:26am Top

>247 libraryperilous: Good catch! Thank you. I'll enter Santa's picks in the boxes.

>248 serendipitina: Thank you! And so glad to have you back this year. It's my first card exchange, too!

>249 MrsLee: You're just fine. For ordering, we assume that Santa's picks go in order from their most- to least-important selections. In general, putting extra selections in the comments is easy for staff when it comes time for ordering, but we'll sort it out.

>250 Petroglyph: Good work! That's great.

252libraryperilous
Dec 11, 2017, 12:01pm Top

Slighty OT: Has anyone made a book tree? I'd like to make one about this size.

253sallylou61
Dec 11, 2017, 12:02pm Top

Is this where we volunteer for being a substitute Santa? I would like to do meggyweg, Mrsandersonut, cfraser or Laurenbufferd.

254saroz
Edited: Dec 11, 2017, 12:06pm Top

I, too, am ready to be a substitute Santa for...anyone. I'm just sitting here grading papers and will check in periodically to see if I'm needed. :)

255lorannen
Dec 11, 2017, 12:04pm Top

Tim has decreed we're waiting another 30 min., to allow any stragglers to finish up. Sit tight!

>253 sallylou61: I'll post here once unpicked Santees are up for grabs. Then you can head over to the SantaThing page and click to assign them to yourself.

256Morphidae
Dec 11, 2017, 12:07pm Top

My Santee wanted $50 from Amazon.de. It's the equivalent of EU 43. I chose four books which came to EU 40.8. Is that too low? I didn't know how to find EU 2.2 when I don't speak .de/German. I had to look up Taschenbuch (paperback) as it is!

257RidgewayGirl
Dec 11, 2017, 12:44pm Top

>256 Morphidae: Did they request books in German? When I was living in Germany, I requested amazon.de as my source, and received books in English. You should be able to switch to English by going to "Alle Kategorien" at the top left side of the main page, then "Bücher und Audible" off of the drop-down menu, then choose "Fremdsprachige Bücher" and you should be in an English-language section.

258lorannen
Edited: Dec 11, 2017, 1:12pm Top

All right, volunteer Santa's start your sleighs! All remaining Santees who've not been picked for yet are up for grabs on the SantaThing page. Please help us out!

Near the top of the list, you'll see a group of folks with yellow exclamation points next to their SantaThing entries. Click on their username to see their SantaThing profile. At the top of their SantaThing profile is a link that reads "Grab them for yourself." Click that link to claim them.

We've only got 20 who need volunteers this year, which is great! That means the vast majority of Santas were able to get their picks in before the deadline.

Thanks in advance for all your help!

259saroz
Dec 11, 2017, 1:17pm Top

I just snagged three unpicked, including your niece, lorannen. My computer's battery is about to die here at my local coffee shop, but I promise I will get them finished off within the next few hours once I get home. :) What fun!

260lorannen
Dec 11, 2017, 1:23pm Top

>259 saroz: Thanks for helping out, and for the heads-up! And extra thanks for my niece. I'm terrible at picking out kids' books that were published after circa 1997, which is why I like to do SantaThing for my niblings. :)

261ryvre
Dec 11, 2017, 1:26pm Top

I ended up 39 cents over budget for the santee I just picked up. (Every other combo I picked ended up like $3 short.) I'm happy to chip in the extra money if needed.

262lorannen
Dec 11, 2017, 1:43pm Top

>261 ryvre: Good work! That's just fine—I'll pull from the overage fund. :)

263tec4cleveland
Dec 11, 2017, 1:53pm Top

I hope someone will snag my husband. I'd do it, but since he's tied to my LT profile, I can't.

264lorannen
Dec 11, 2017, 2:00pm Top

>263 tec4cleveland: Don't worry! They'll all get picked up. I think our volunteer Santas are just working on the ones they've already grabbed, and don't want to be too greedy, in case there are others waiting to pick someone.

265noveltea88
Edited: Dec 11, 2017, 2:10pm Top

ETA: Looks like everyone is selected, nevermind!

Is there a deadline to get the selections in? I would love to grab one and help out but I am working for the next few hours and wouldnt have time to make choices until this evening.

266lorannen
Edited: Dec 11, 2017, 2:10pm Top

>265 noveltea88: It looks like they've all been grabbed by volunteers, now. I'll post again here if we need extra help later, so check back when you have a some time!

267lorannen
Dec 11, 2017, 3:31pm Top

I'd love some suggestions on this one: http://www.librarything.com/santathing_thing.php?id=308. Santa has quite a bit of money left over, and I'm iffy about the pick they've got listed currently. Seems like it's borderline in the "do not get" territory.

268libraryperilous
Dec 11, 2017, 5:04pm Top

>265 noveltea88: I snagged two, so if you'd like one, I'm happy to share.

269Morphidae
Edited: Dec 11, 2017, 5:26pm Top

>257 RidgewayGirl: My Santee didn't say anything about a language preference and I have no idea if I ordered books in German or English. How can I tell?

ETA: Okay, I figured it out and they are in English. However, two things. #1 They aren't actually in Germany but a neighboring country so who knows what their actual native language is. And #2 from what they wrote in their request they seem to have a strong grasp of English, so it should be okay.

270lorannen
Dec 11, 2017, 5:35pm Top

I could use some help on this one: http://www.librarything.com/santathing_thing.php?id=99. Had to remove a couple of Santa's picks due to availability. $11 remaining in the budget.

271lorannen
Dec 11, 2017, 5:35pm Top

>269 Morphidae: Unless specified otherwise, I'd say English is just fine.

272Tropical-Library
Dec 11, 2017, 5:38pm Top

>267 lorannen: Took me a while but have found three that seem to fit requirements and fit budget and are available now

273RidgewayGirl
Dec 11, 2017, 6:14pm Top

>269 Morphidae: If their SantaThing form was written in English, I'd stick with that as the language. And amazon isn't in every country, so people choose the amazon closest to them.

274lorannen
Dec 11, 2017, 6:25pm Top

Another one I could use help with: https://www.librarything.com/santathing_thing.php?id=296. $18 left in the budget.

275Tropical-Library
Dec 11, 2017, 6:30pm Top

>270 lorannen: Suggestions made

276saroz
Dec 11, 2017, 6:36pm Top

Easy peasy lemon squeezy. That was tremendous fun, and a very welcome relief from grading final papers. :)

Lorannen - two of the four books I chose for Fiona are not-recent-ish, and one is quite old, but I don't think of any of them as being ones people usually pick (or even have heard of). One book is bang-up-to-the-minute and all four are Very Heroic Indeed, so hopefully I've done more good than not. Fingers crossed. :)

277Tropical-Library
Dec 11, 2017, 6:51pm Top

>274 lorannen: Suggestions made

278lorannen
Dec 11, 2017, 8:09pm Top

Thanks for your help today, everyone! All orders for Print are placed, and I'm moving on to Powell's next.

279RidgewayGirl
Dec 11, 2017, 8:30pm Top

Yay! My Santee chose Print and I was thrilled when my top choices added up to exactly their total.

280lorannen
Dec 11, 2017, 11:55pm Top

I'd love some suggestions on this one: https://www.librarything.com/santathing_thing.php?id=220, $16 left in the budget.

281lorannen
Dec 11, 2017, 11:57pm Top

And this one too: https://www.librarything.com/santathing_thing.php?id=236, $11 left in budget.

282rodneyvc
Dec 12, 2017, 12:06am Top

>280 lorannen: suggestion made

283lorannen
Dec 12, 2017, 12:17am Top

Another suggestion request, please! https://www.librarything.com/santathing_thing.php?id=459, $17 remaining in budget.

284rodneyvc
Dec 12, 2017, 12:21am Top

>281 lorannen: suggestion made

285lorannen
Dec 12, 2017, 12:23am Top

General update: it looks like all Santees have now been picked for! Thanks, Santas! But the ordering games have begun, and, as you can see, I'm already posting with requests for suggestions on orders than need replacements, or have extra room in the budget.

>285 lorannen: Thank you!

286Arifel
Edited: Dec 12, 2017, 12:40am Top

>281 lorannen: Wow, Powell's is hard to filter out the used books from! But I've left a suggestion within budget.

287Tropical-Library
Dec 12, 2017, 12:35am Top

>283 lorannen: Suggestion made
>286 Arifel: New and used are actually search parameters in case you need to look again. Either at the end of the search box or in the refined search you can select either/or

288Arifel
Edited: Dec 12, 2017, 12:41am Top

>287 Tropical-Library: Thanks for the tip - I found the filter but couldn't figure out how to get it to search for new books as default, rather than having to search for a title then apply it every time... it's not a big problem at all but I'm on quite a slow connection, so these things are more noticeable right now.

ETA: also learning how to use these message boards for the first time, what an education I am getting today...!

289Tropical-Library
Dec 12, 2017, 12:46am Top

>288 Arifel: Apologies, I misunderstood -- you can't seem to set a default sadly. Any day you learn something is a good one though

290karenb
Dec 12, 2017, 12:52am Top

At this point, I'm assuming that ISBN & price is helpful info to add with the suggestion? (and a link?) Making lorannen's life easier is a good thing.

291Tropical-Library
Dec 12, 2017, 1:02am Top

>290 karenb: Good point -- reminded me that last year we were adding link but not price

292lorannen
Dec 12, 2017, 1:25am Top

>290 karenb: You'd be correct! ISBN and link are both helpful details, but I really only need one or the other. Thanks, everyone!

>288 Arifel: It may not be just you—I've got a pretty solid connection with other sites working just fine, but Powell's is suuuuper slow tonight (or maybe in general).

293Arifel
Dec 12, 2017, 3:00am Top

>292 lorannen: Argh how annoying - hope you are well provisioned with the drinks/snacks/festive music of your choice while you're working on this!

294lorannen
Edited: Dec 12, 2017, 3:10am Top

>292 lorannen: Thanks so much! I'm trying like heck to get all the Powell's orders in tonight, but they sure aren't making it easy. Most times I click the "Check out" button nothing happens!

I do have a pretty sweet playlist going, and lots of water!

295lorannen
Dec 12, 2017, 4:19am Top

At long last, all the Powell's orders are in! That was some seriously slow going, and it's past my bedtime. I'll be back tomorrow and needing help with Book Depository orders! Thanks everyone, and good night!

296EllsieFind
Dec 12, 2017, 8:56am Top

>292 lorannen: Is there a way for me to copy the link so it stays live so that you can just click through to the book? I tried on my santees but when I copied and pasted the links they broke.

297lorannen
Dec 12, 2017, 11:49am Top

>296 EllsieFind: Hmm, I'm afraid I don't follow. The links I see for your Santee are just fine, but if you'd like to know a trick, cut out everything in the URL from "ref=" to the end—that's all I really need.

If you want to tell me more about the issue you're having, please drop me a direct message—I don't want to run the risk of spoiling any bookish surprises on here!

298RidgewayGirl
Dec 12, 2017, 12:01pm Top

>297 lorannen: lorannen, I just want to thank you for jumping into the pile of work that is SantaThing. You do it every year, and you never fail to be patient and helpful. Thanks for letting us have SantaThing.

299avanders
Dec 12, 2017, 12:24pm Top

300tec4cleveland
Dec 12, 2017, 12:31pm Top

Hear, hear! Your kindness and thoughtfulness are greatly appreciated. Thank you!

301lorannen
Dec 12, 2017, 12:49pm Top

>298 RidgewayGirl: >299 avanders: >300 tec4cleveland: Aww, shucks, you guys. Thank you! My job wouldn't exist or be remotely fun without all of you, and I appreciate everyone of you so much. Thanks for warming my heart on a chilly morning.

302EllsieFind
Dec 12, 2017, 3:42pm Top

>297 lorannen: Thank you! I was afraid I was doing it incorrectly. If it is ok for what you need then I am fine. And also ditto on >298 RidgewayGirl:'s comment. (I remember last year when you were doing this even while you were sick!) You put in an enormous effort to give us so much fun for the holidays!

303lorannen
Dec 12, 2017, 6:20pm Top

All right, time for more suggestion requests! https://www.librarything.com/santathing_thing.php?id=14. This one has $14 remaining in the budget.

304lorannen
Dec 12, 2017, 6:25pm Top

And here's another: https://www.librarything.com/santathing_thing.php?id=104—a bit trickier, only $8 left in the budget.

305lorannen
Dec 12, 2017, 6:29pm Top

306lorannen
Dec 12, 2017, 6:34pm Top

And this one: https://www.librarything.com/santathing_thing.php?id=431, with $23 remaining in the budget.

307lorannen
Dec 12, 2017, 6:38pm Top

This one too: https://www.librarything.com/santathing_thing.php?id=13—only $8 in the budget, which makes it difficult.

308Capybara_99
Dec 12, 2017, 6:54pm Top

>304 lorannen:. Left a suggestion on the Santa page.

309ryvre
Dec 12, 2017, 7:00pm Top

I left recommendations on a few of those.

310karenb
Dec 12, 2017, 7:19pm Top

Me three, at least for the smaller budgets. It's good to have options (and more recs to look at later, if nothing else).

311Tropical-Library
Dec 12, 2017, 7:30pm Top

Recommendation left

312noveltea88
Dec 12, 2017, 8:36pm Top

Suggestions made.

313Tropical-Library
Dec 13, 2017, 7:02pm Top

This might be the longest quiet period during SantaThing ever...

314lorannen
Dec 13, 2017, 7:11pm Top

>313 Tropical-Library: Nope! I just continued the thread already: https://www.librarything.com/topic/277659

315Tropical-Library
Dec 13, 2017, 7:47pm Top

Well bugger, was there a heads up I missed?

316lorannen
Dec 13, 2017, 7:50pm Top

>315 Tropical-Library: Hmm, I didn't mention it in this thread, directly, but you can see both at the top and bottom (between the last post and the "Add a message" box) of any topic page the "This topic was continued" message, along with a link to where it's continued. Also, if you star a topic, then the continued thread should be automatically starred for you, which should be all it takes for the continuation to show up in Your groups & posts.

317Tropical-Library
Dec 13, 2017, 7:51pm Top

That'll teach me not to look more carefully

318rabbitfish24
Dec 13, 2017, 7:56pm Top

I just got a notification that I received a refund from Library Thing - I submitted my request long before the closed date - what happened?
I was really looking forward to this.

319lorannen
Edited: Dec 13, 2017, 8:22pm Top

>318 rabbitfish24: I'm sorry to hear you missed out this year. Yes, I processed refunds earlier today for two people who paid into SantaThing, but did not complete their SantaThing sign-up. I had emailed both of those individuals more than a week ago at the address connected with the payment, to ask them about finishing their sign-up, and did not receive a response. The email address connected with your account was not one of them, but for one of the two, I did not have any accounts in our system connected with the email address from their payment—this meant that I had no way of knowing their LT handle. I'm sorry I wasn't able to connect with you in time. Please feel free to drop me a line at loranne@librarything.com if you'd like to discuss this further, or if you have any other questions.

320Romonko
Dec 23, 2017, 8:42am Top

Hi- i love SantaThing and have been enrolled in it for a long time- I’ve never been disappointed, until this year. I went to the mail yesterday- the last mail day before Christmas, and my books weren’t there yet. I always plan my holiday reading around the books I get from SantaThing. Just wanted to let you know that I haven’t received them yet in case there’s a problem. Merry Christmas to all of you and thanks for the wonderful website.

321lorannen
Dec 23, 2017, 12:53pm Top

>320 Romonko: Sorry to hear your books didn't show up quite on time this year. I can confirm that they're on the way—shipment went out on Dec. 18th, and are slated to arrive on Wednesday.

322Romonko
Dec 24, 2017, 8:18am Top

Thank you so much for checking. I look forward to their arrival. Merry Christmas and thanks for doing Santa Thing. I love it.

323mumagoose
Dec 25, 2017, 4:56am Top

Aww so disappointed. Even though I am in Australia I have my kindle account on amazon.com but it still says because I dont live in the same country as the person whom picked the books I cannot redeem them and have to exchange for a credit (hopefully I can do that, or I wasted $30 for nothing). Next year I will see if I can do printed books then. What a bummer. I love the books that were chosen though.

324Petroglyph
Dec 25, 2017, 11:36am Top

>323 mumagoose:
The same thing happened to me (I'm in Sweden). Exchanging the books for amazon credit was quick: I clicked two links, and my request was processed within minutes. I was then able to re-buy the books (though one or two were a little bit more expensive here).

(Also, the main discussion of this topic has moved on to this thread. Just a heads-up)

325NicoleW
Dec 25, 2017, 11:41am Top

Merry Christmas! Still waiting for my Santa Thing books... I am sure it’s the weather, the northeast is getting some snow, rain, or ice for Christmas.

Have a merry and bright one one and all!

NicoleW

326lorannen
Dec 25, 2017, 1:53pm Top

>323 mumagoose: I'm very sorry to hear about that! Please drop me a message at loranne@librarything.com and I'll do whatever I can to sort this out for you.

>324 Petroglyph: The same goes for you, though it sounds like you've already managed to get your books, by jumping through extra hoops.

In the past, so long as Kindles were registered to Amazon.com (not .co.uk, etc.), I've been able to gift Kindle books to members all over the globe. I can't find any documentation on Amazon indicating that's changed, but I also don't have time to do a thorough search at the moment. That's very frustrating, and I'm so sorry.

327Petroglyph
Dec 25, 2017, 6:49pm Top

>326 lorannen:
The same thing happened last year, though only with one out of the five presents. This time round all three books were unavailable due to international copyright entanglements (I suspect). But maybe that's due to different publishers and the way they've negotiated their licensing deals? This year's gifts were all from the same publisher.

328DKnight0918
Dec 25, 2017, 9:07pm Top

I received my book. Looking forward to reading it. Genuine Fraud is the title.

329krismichele
Dec 28, 2017, 6:29pm Top

Hello. I still haven’t received my books yet and was just wondering how long it usually takes? I got them from Book Depository

330Petroglyph
Dec 28, 2017, 8:27pm Top

>329 krismichele:
Book Depository deliveries are still coming in (check this thread). I wouldn't worry just yet: they might take until early January.

331RidgewayGirl
Dec 29, 2017, 12:41pm Top

>329 krismichele: Since Book Depository books are mailed from Britain, it just takes longer for them to get to American addresses. I enjoy the way they shuffle in, one at a time, like guests who are late to a party.

332krismichele
Dec 29, 2017, 12:45pm Top

Thank you for the info! And absolutely fabulous! So excited to have my guests arrive lol

333jadeawsome
Jan 23, 12:04pm Top

i signed up but it only said OK your are entered but it didn't give me any thing i need some f$*king help right now oh and if there are any kids on here excuse my language i am so sorry kids

334lorannen
Jan 23, 12:44pm Top

>333 jadeawsome: I'm sorry to say I don't see you on our list of folks who entered SantaThing this year. Drop me an email (loranne@librarything.com) with some more details (email address and name used to submit your payment, etc.), and I'll be happy to look into this. At the very least, I'll be able to offer you a refund. I'm sorry for the trouble!

335RidgewayGirl
Jan 23, 9:04pm Top

>334 lorannen: They just joined LT today.

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