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karenmarie's 2017 reading and occasional other nonsense - part 12

75 Books Challenge for 2017

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Nov 24, 2017, 10:38am Top

Welcome to my Twelfth thread of 2017. This has been a stupendous LT year for me, thanks to all who visit and contribute.

As 2017 starts winding down, all I can say is Thank Goodness. Some things were stressful yet good, like husband getting a new job and loving it, some good financial actions we took that are making our finances more manageable, and calming down after my mother’s death in December of last year and the emotional and financial stresses that brought. Other things stressful and not so good, but I’m putting them in perspective and just going to roll forward.

My goal has been to read a minimum of 100 books this year. I've read 85. By the time the year ends I wish to have finished all those currently unfinished, which will be another 5. This leaves 10 new books to get read in the next 38 days, which, if I choose judiciously, is more than doable. 100 books is arbitrary, admittedly, but I really want to hit it.

I am reading the Literary Study Bible for the entire year, and am tracking the number of pages read. I'll update it at the end of every month. I've graduated from the Old Testament to the New Testament and will start Romans tomorrow.


Our Christmas Tree, 2016.

My take on the Pearl Rule:

Karen's Rule "If for any reason you don't want to continue reading a book, put it down. You may keep it, get rid of it, re-start it, never finish it, finish it from where you left off, but put it down." A different way of saying it is that I abandon books with glee if they're not working for me.

Apologies to SuziQoregon (Juli) - I have appropriated your 2016 subject line because I like it so much!

Edited: Dec 8, 2017, 4:55pm Top

Books read in 2017

01. Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them: The Original Screenplay by J. K. Rowling 1/1/17 1/3/17 **** 318 pages hardcover
02. The Stolen Bride by Jo Beverley 1/3/17 1/3/17 ** 269 pages trade paperback
03. The Patriotic Murders by Agatha Christie 1/8/17 1/9/17 *** 211 pages hardcover
04. Black Coffee by Agatha Christie 1/10/17 1/11/17 ***1/2 184 pages hardcover
05. The Regatta Mystery and Other Stories by Agatha Christie 1/13/17 1/14/17 ***1/2 185 pages hardcover
06. American Tabloid by James Ellroy 1/4/16 1/19/17 **** 592 pages trade paperback
07. Talking to the Dead by Harry Bingham 1/23/17 1/26/17 **** 378 pages Kindle
08. Witches of Lychford by Paul Cornell 1/27/17 1/27/17 ***1/2 144 pages trade paperback
09. The Strange Death of Fiona Griffiths by Harry Bingham 1/28/17 1/29/17 **** 398 pages Kindle
10. Sad Cypress by Agatha Christie 1/29/17 1/30/2017 ***1/2 201 pages hardcover
11. One Good Turn by Carla Kelly 1/31/17 1/31/17 **** 215 pages mass market paperback
12. The Old Man and the Sea by Ernest Hemingway 2/4/17 2/5/17 ***1/2 140 pages hardcover
13. The Dutiful Daughter by Vanessa Gray 2/1/17 2/5/17 ** 216 pages mass market paperback
14. Verdict of Twelve by Raymond Postgate 2/6/17 2/7/17 *** 250 pages trade paperback
15. The Crossing by Michael Connelly 2/8/17 2/10/17 ***1/2 388 pages hardcover
16. The Wrong Side of Goodbye by Michael Connelly 2/10/17 2/12/17 **** 400 pages hardcover
17. My Dark Places by James Ellroy 2/13/17 2/16/17 **** 427 pages trade paperback
18. Jeremy Poldark by Winston Graham 2/17/17 2/19/17 **** 344 pages trade paperback
19. This Thing of Darkness by Harry Bingham 2/21/17 2/24/17 **** Kindle 562 pages trade paperback
20. Bleak House by Charles Dickens 2/1/17 2/27/17 Kindle 830 pages hardcover
21. Lincoln in the Bardo by George Saunders 2/20/17 3/1/17 ***** 343 pages hardcover
** The Xibalba Murders by Lyn Hamilton abandoned after 122 pages read
22. Warleggan by Winston Graham 2/27/17 3/9/17 **** 471 pages trade paperback
23. The Black Moon by Winston Graham 3/10/17 3/13/17 ****546 pages trade paperback
24. The Pale Horse by Agatha Christie 3/14/17 3/18/17 **1/2 214 pages hardcover
25. The Four Swans by Winston Graham 3/19/17 581 pages trade paperback 1976
26. Birds Art Life: A Year of Observation by Kyo Maclear 3/28/17 3/29/17 ****1/2 221 pages
27. His Excellency: George Washington by Joseph J. Ellis 3/1/17 to 4/3/17 **** audiobook, 14.75 hours unabridged
28. The Angry Tide by Winston Graham 3/30/17 4/9/17 **** 612 pages trade paperback
29. The Twelve Terrors of Christmas by John Updike 4/13/17 4/13/17 12 pages hardcover
30. Amok by Stefan Zweig 4/14/17 to 4/14/17 ***1/2 121 pages hardcover
31. The Stranger from the Sea by Winston Graham 4/9/17 4/17/17 ***1/2 499 pages trade paperback
32. Dreams From My Father by Barack Obama 4/3/17 4/19/17 ****1/2 audiobook, 7.5 hours abridged
33. The Big Year by Mark Obmascik 248 pages, 253 pages trade paperback 4/18/17 4/21/17 **** 250 pages trade paperback
34. The Miller's Dance by Winston Graham 4/22/17 4/26/17 **** 485 pages trade paperback
35. The Dead House by Harry Bingham 5/1/17 5/4/17 **** 500 pages trade paperback
36. Spring Fever by Mary Kay Andrews 5/6/17 5/8/17 *** 402 pages trade paperback
37. The Twisted Sword by Winston Graham 5/9/17 5/12/17 **** 645 pages trade paperback
38. Bella Poldark by Winston Graham 5/12/17 5/17/17 ***1/2 704 pages trade paperback read as e-book on Kindle
39. Shoeless Joe by W.P. Kinsella 5/17/17 5/22/17 ****1/2 272 pages trade paperback read as e-book on Kindle
40. The Monogram Murders by Sophie Hannah 5/23/17 5/25/17 *** 384 pages hardcover
41. The Lost City of the Monkey God by Douglas Preston 5/25/17 5/28/17 *** 336 pages hardover
42. Ladies' Night by Mary Kay Andrews 5/28/17 6/1/17 *** 582 page mass market paperback
43. Midnight Crossroad by Charlaine Harris 6/1/17 6/6/17 *** 305 pages hardcover
44. A Cup of Light by Nicole Mones 6/10/17 6/12/17 **** 292 pages trade paperback
45. Festive in Death by J.D. Robb 6/12/17 6/16/17 ***1/2 389 pages hardcover
46. Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone by J.K. Rowling 4/20/17 -5/8/17 and 6/10/17 - 6/22/17 **** audiobook 8.3 hours unabridged
47. Sapiens by Yuval Noah Harari 3/16/17 6/29/17 ****1/2 416 pages hardcover
48. Home by Harlan Coben 6/29/17 7/1/17 **** 442 pages mass market paperback
49. The Deepest Grave by Harry Bingham 7/1/17 7/4/17 **** 454 pages trade paperback
50. Sharp Objects by Gillian Flynn 7/4/17 7/6/17 ***1/2 252 pages hardcover
51. Dark Places by Gillian Flynn 7/7/17 7/9/17 **** 538 pages mass market paperback
52. Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets by J.K. Rowling 6/23/17 7/14/17 **** audiobook 8.3 hours unabridged
53. An Atlas of Countries That Don't Exist by Nick Middleton 7/14/17 7/16/17 **** 240 pages hardcover
54. Cocaine Blues by Kerry Greenwood 7/14/17 7/16/17 ***1/2 175 pages trade paperback
55. The Stranger by Harlan Coben 07/16/17 7/17/17 **** 449 pages mass market paperback
56. The Blackhouse by Peter May 7/18/17 7/22/17 ****1/2 479 pages trade paperback
57. The Lewis Man by Peter May 7/22/17 7/25/17 ****1/2 418 pages trade paperback
58. Born a Crime by Trevor Noah 7/24/17 7/27/17 **** 8.75 hours audiobook
59. The Crying of Lot 49 by Thomas Pynchon 7/30/17 8/3/17 ** 152 pages trade paperback
60. Raven Black by Ann Cleeves 8/3/17 8/8/17 *** 376 pages trade paperback
61. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban by J.K. Rowling 7/14/17 8/11/17 **** audiobook
62. Kafka on the Shore by Haruki Murakami 7/30/17 8/12/17 467 pages trade paperback
63. A Cotswold Killing by Rebecca Tope 8/12/17 8/14/17 *** 1/2 288 pages Kindle
64. The Late Show by Michael Connelly 8/14/17 8/17/17 **** 448 pages hardcover
65. The Last Anniversary by Liane Moriarty 8/17/17 ****1/2 388 pages trade paperback
66. Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children 8/23/17 8/30/17 by Ransom Riggs **1/2 352 pages trade paperback
67. The Killings at Badger's Drift by Caroline Graham 8/30/17 9/2/17 **** 261 pages trade paperback
68. Magpie Murders by Anthony Horowitz 9/2/17 to 9/9/17 **** 458 pages hardcover
69. A Gentleman in Moscow by Amor Towles 9/10/17 9/19/17 ***** 462 pages hardcover
70. Glass Houses by Louise Penny 9/19/17 9/23/17 ** 1/2 391 pages hardcover
71. Jack with a Twist by Brenda Janowitz 9/24/17 9/25/17 373 pages trade paperback
72. Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire by J.K. Rowling 8/11/17 9/29/17 **** audiobook
73. Astrophysics for People in a Hurry by Neil DeGrasse Tyson 9/26/17 9/30/17 208 pages hardcover
74. Olive Kitteridge by Elizabeth Strout 9/18/17 10/7/17 **** 270 pages trade paperback
75. 1066 and all That by W.C. Sellar and R.J. Yeatman 10/11/17 10/11/17 **** 115 pages hardcover
76. Missing, Presumed by Susie Steiner 10/7/17 10/12/17 ***1/2 404 pages hardcover
77. Rules of Civility by Amor Towles 10/10/17 10/16/17 **** 335 pages hardcover
78. The Wyndham Case by Jill Paton Walsh 10/17/17 10/20/17 *** 223 pages hardcover
79. Eve in Hollywood by Amor Towles 10/21/17 10/21/17 **** 75 pages e-book
80. Y is for Yesterday by Sue Grafton 10/20/17 10/23/17 ***1/2 483 pages hardcover
81. The Mysterious flame of Queen Loana by Umberto Eco 10/23/17 11/1/17 ***1/2 449 pages hardcover
82. Two Kinds of Truth by Michael Connelly 11/2/17 11/4/17 ***1/2 402 pages hardcover
83. The Day of the Triffids by John Wyndham 11/9/17 11/11/17 **** 216 pages hardcover
84. The Midnight Line by Lee Child 11/11/17 to 11/14/17 **** 368 pages hardcover
85. News of the World by Paulette Jiles 11/16/17 11/18/17 ****1/2 209 pages trade paperback
86. Come, Tell Me How you Live by Agatha Christie 11/18/17 11/24/17 ***1/2 188 pages hardcover
87. A Christmas Memory by Truman Capote 11/29/17 11/29/17 **** 45 pages hardcover
88. The Fireside Watergate by Nicholas von Hoffman and Garry Trudeau 11/29/17 11/30/17 ***1/2 110 pages hardcover
89. The Secret Teachings of Jesus Translated by Marvin W. Meyer 11/30/17 12/3/17 ***1/2 96 pages incl Introduction hardcover
90. Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix by J.K. Rowling 9/30/17 12/3/17 **** audiobook
91. Out of the Blackout by Robert Barnard 12/3/17 12/5/17 *** 182 pages mass market paperback
92. The Chocolate Cobweb by Charlotte Armstrong 12/5/17 12/8/17 *** 256 pages mass market paperback
93. Marlon Brando: Portraits and Film Stills 1946-1995 edited by Lothar Shirmer with an essay by Truman Capote 12/8/17 12/8/17 ***1/2 184 pages hardcover

The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle by Haruki Murakami 11/2/17 607 pages trade paperback 1995
Versus by Ogden Nash 10/25/17 164 pages hardcover 1950
The Righteous Mind: Why Good People are Divided by Politics and Religion by Jonathan Haidt 11/15/16 318 pages hardcover 2012
The Literary Study Bible by Leland Ryken and Philip Graham Ryken 1/1/17 1879 pages hardcover plus 18 pages Preface, Introduction, and Features 2007
The Complete Idiot's Guide to the Bible by James S. Bell Jr. and Stan Campbell 7/23/17 334 pages including Introduction

Edited: Dec 5, 2017, 5:47am Top

Adds in 2017

January - 18
1. Amazon Gift Card American Blood by James Ellroy suggested by Ameise1
2. Amazon Gift Card The Cold Six Thousand by James Ellroy suggested by Ameise1
3. Amazon The Wicked Girls by Alex Marwood - suggested by SGiV
4. Bookmooch hide and seek by Ian Rankin
5. Friend Louise Killer View by Ridley Pearson
6. Friend Nancy I Am Radar by Reif Larsen
7. Amazon Full Dark House by Christopher Fowler
8. Amazon The Assault by Harry Mulisch suggested by Paul C. and Anita
9. Bookmooch A Knife to Remember by Jill Churchill
10. Bookmooch Lost on Planet China by J. Maarten Troost
11. Amazon Quiet by Susan Cain
12. Bookmooch Creation by Gore Vidal
13. Amazon The Three-Body Problem
14. Mom Holy Bible
15. Mom Bottom Line's Secret Food Cures
16. Mom Bottom Line's Best-Ever Kitchen Secrets
17. Mom Bottom Line's Best-Ever Home Secrets
18. Mom Hummingbirds by Esther Qusada Tyrrell and Robert A. Tyrrell

February - 42
19. Amazon Verdict of Twelve by Raymond Postgate recommended by jillmwo Jill
20. Thrift Shop Idiot's Guide to Conversational Sign Language
21. Thrift Shop I Am America (And So Can You) by Stephen Colbert
22. Thrift Shop Night Film by Marisha Pessl
23. Thrift Shop The United States of Europe by T.R. Reid
24. Thrift Shop Tales of the South Pacific by James Michener
25. Thrift Shop Closed Casket by Agatha Christie
26. Thrift Shop Affliction by Laurell K. Hamilton
27. Thrift Shop Simply Tai Chi by Graham Bryant and Lorraine James
28. Thrift Shop Hegemony or Survival by Noam Chomsky
29. Thrift Shop Apes, Angels, and Victorians by William Levine
30. Thrift Shop My Reading Life by Pat Conroy
31. Thrift Shop Four in Hand by Stephanie Laurens
32. Amazon The Wrong Side of Goodbye by Michael Connelly
33. Circle City Books My Dark Places by James Ellroy
34. Amazon Racing the Devil by Charles Todd
35. Friend Karen The Trouble with Islam Today by Irshad Manji
36. Friend Karen Goddesses: An illustrated journey into the myths, symbols, and rituals of the goddess by Manuela Dunn Mascetti
37. Friend Karen The Eagle and The Rose by Rosemary Altea
38. Friend Karen Last Call by Daniel Okrent
39. Friend Karen Wildflowers in Color: Eastern Edition by Walter
40. Friend Karen Brooklyn by Colm Toibin
41. Friend Karen The Tiger's Wife by Tea Obreht
42. Friend Karen Blind Your Ponies by Stanley Gordon West
43. Friend Karen Half Asleep in Frog Pajamas by Tom Robbins
44. Friend Karen Jerusalem, Jerusalem by James Carroll
45. Friend Karen Sweet Thunder by Ivan Doig
46. Friend Karen The Warrior Queens by Antonia Fraser
47. Friend Karen Half the Sky by Nicholas D. Kristof
48. Friend Karen Invisible Acts of Power by Caroline Myss
49. Uncle Oren - New Testament
50. Thrift Shop - The Spanish Bride by Georgette Heyer
51. Kindle - The Strange Death of Fiona Griffiths by Harry Bingham
52. Kindle - This Thing of Darkness by Harry Bingham
53. Kindle - The Dead House by Harry Bingham
54. Amazon - Lincoln in the Bardo by George Saunders
55. Amazon - Warleggan by Winston Graham
56. Amazon - The Black Moon by Winston Graham
57. Amazon - The Four Swans by Winston Graham
58. Amazon - The Oxford Companion to the Bible
59. Costco - The Rainbow Comes and Goes by Anderson Cooper and Gloria Vanderbilt
60. Amazon - The Xibalba Murders by Lyn Hamilton

March - 7
61. Bookmooch - The Crying of Lot 49 by Thomas Pynchon
62. Amazon - A Closed and Common Orbit by Becky Chambers
63. Costco - Sapiens by Yuval Noah Harari
64. Amazon - My Brilliant Friend by Elena Ferrante
65. Amazon - The Angry Tide by Winston Graham
66. Amazon - The Stranger from the Sea by Winston Graham
67. Amazon - The Miller's Dance by Winston Graham

April - 64
68. Friends of the Library free for donating time - Dead Man's Time by Peter James
69. Friends of the Library free for donating time - The Greater Journey: Americans in Paris by David McCullough
70. Friends of the Library free for donating time - Viper Wine by Hermione Eyre
71. Amazon - A is for Arsenic by Kathryn Markup
72. Thrift Shop – You Suck by Christopher Moore
73. Thrift Shop – Mansfield Park Revisited by Joan Aiken
74. Thrift Shop – Festive in Death by J.D. Robb
75. Stasia - The Screwtape Letters by C.S. Lewis
76. Amazon – The Miller’s Dance
77. Amazon – The Stranger from the Sea
78. Amazon – The Angry Tide
79. - 123. Friends of the Library Book Sale: 45 books
The 26 Letters by Oscar Ogg
Astray by Emma Donoghue
Enemy Women by Penelope Jiles
The Prophet by Kahlil Gibran
Sharp Objects by Gillian Flynn
A Judgment in Stone by Ruth Rendell
Spring Fever by Mary Kay Andrews
The Darkest Secret by Alex Marwood
Not Dead Enough by Peter James
Dead Like You by Peter James
Not Dead Yet by Peter James
The Dark Forest by Cixin Liu
Death's End by Cixin Liu
The Book of Abraham by Marek Halter
Alexander Hamilton by Ron Chernow
Mass Market Paperback - O Jerusalem by Laurie R. King
Audiobook - Go Set a Watchman by Harper Lee
The Covenant by James Michener
Alaska by James Michener
Caribbean by James Michener
Chesapeake by James Michener
Return to Paradise by ... you guessed it..... James Michener
The Man of Property by John Galsworthy, slipcased
Amok by Stefan Zweig
The Life and Campaigns of Napoleon by M.A. Arnault and C.L.F. Panckoucke - 1852
Murder in the Cathedral by T.S. Eliot - 1935 - first US edition with tattered dust jacket
The Confessions of Nat Turner by William Styron
Mission to Malaspiga by Evelyn Anthony
The Poellenberg Inheritance by Evelyn Anthony
van Loon's Lives by Hendrik Willem van Loon
Adam and Eve and Pinch Me by Ruth Rendell
The Incongruous Spy by John le Carré - two novels, Call for the Dead and A Murder of Quality
The Twelve Terrors of Christmas by John Updike with Drawings by Edward Gorey
The Poems of James Russell Lowell
The Library Paradox by Catherine Shaw
The Victoria Vanishes by Christopher Fowler
Brother of the More Famous Jack by Barbara Trapido
The Ludwig Conspiracy by Oliver Pötzsch
The Missing File by D.A. Mishani
New Orleans Noir edited by Julie Smith
The Kookaburra Gambit by Claire McNab
Wartime Writings 1939-1944 by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
Blackwater by Kerstin Ekman
Copper River by Willliam Kent Krueger
The Ogden Nash Pocket Book by Ogden Nash with Introduction by Louis Untermeyer
124. Cordelia by Winston Graham
125. Amazon – Peterson Guide to Eastern Birds by Roger Tory Peterson
126. Amazon – Bella Poldark by Winston Graham
127. Amazon – The Twisted Sword by Winston Graham
128. Amazon – The Loving Cup by Winston Graham
129. Bookmooch - Tomorrow Will Be Better by Betty Smith
130. Friend Louise - The Appeal by John Grisham
131. Costco - White Trash: The 400-Year Untold Story of Class in America by Nancy Isenberg

May - 6
132. Sanford PTO - Blood's a Rover by James Ellroy
133. Bookmooch - The Faith Club by Ranya Idliby, Suzanne Oliver, and Priscilla Warner
134. Amazon - The Monogram Murders by Sophie Hannah - Kindle
135. CVS - Ladies' Night by Mary Kay Andrews
136. Amazon Kindle - The Lost City of the Monkey God by Douglas Preston
137. Amazon Kindle - Bella Poldark by Winston Graham

June - 15
138. Diamond Bar FOL Bookstore - Midnight Crossing by Charlaine Harris
139. Diamond Bar FOL Bookstore - A Study in Scarlet/The Hound of the Baskervilles by A. Conan Doyle
140. Bookmooch - A Cup of Light by Nicole Mones
141. Amazon Kindle - The Man Who Could be King by John Ripin Miller
142. Amazon Kindle - This Side of Paradise by F. Scott Fitzgerald
143. Amazon - spill simmer falter wither by Sara Baume
144. Amazon - The Deepest Grave by Harry Bingham
145. LT ER book - An Atlas of Countries That Don't Exist by Nick Middleton
146. Walgreens - Home by Harlan Coben
147. Thrift Shop - Apprentice in Death by J.D. Robb
148. Amazon - Making the Mummies Dance by Thomas Hoving
149. Amazon - Lincoln in the Bardo audiobook
150. Amazon - Theft by Finding by David Sedaris
151. Mom's House - Franklin School Yearbook 1949
152. Mom's House - Franklin School Yearbook 1950

July - 23
153. Friend Karen - The Complete Idiot's Guide to the Bible by Bell and Campbell
154. Friend Karen - Beowulf Translated - Bilingual Edition by Seamus Heaney
155. Friend Karen - Into Africa: The Epic Adventures of Stanley and Livingstone by Martin Dugard
156. Friend Karen - The Way of the Shaman by Michael Harner
157. D&K Library - Faith and Works by Helen Zagat
158. D&K Library - You're Only Old Once!: A Book for Obsolete Children by Dr. Seuss
159. D&K Library - Ships by Enzo Angelucci
160. Thrift Shop - Julie & Julia by Julie Powell trade paperback to replace ratty mass market
161. Thrift Shop - Close by Martina Cole
162. Thrift Shop - Becoming Jane Austen by Jon Spence
163. Amazon - Cocaine Blues by Kerry Greenwood
164. McIntyre's - The Stranger by Harlen Coban
165. Amazon - Lillian Boxfish Takes a Walk by Kathleen Rooney
166. Louise - The Racketeer by John Grisholm
167. Amazon - Dangerous Lady by Martina Cole
168. Amazon - Lillian Boxfish Takes a Walk by Kathleen Rooney
169. Thrift Shop - The Demon in the House by Angela Thirkell
170. Thrift Shop - The Birds Fall Down by Rebecca West
171. Thrift Shop - Echoes in Death by J. D. Robb
172. Thrift Shop - A Single Man by Christopher Isherwood
173. Thrift Shop - Run by Ann Patchett
174. Amazon - Extraordinary People by Peter May
175. Bookmooch - Good Will Hunting: A Screenplay by Ben Affleck

August - 20
176. Amazon - MASH A Novel About Three Army Doctors by Richard Hooker
177. Thrift Shop - Captain Wentworth's Persuasion by Regina Jeffers
178. Bookmooch - The Beak of the Finch by Jonathan Weiner
179. Bookmooch - Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children by Ransom Riggs
180. Amazon - Kindle - A Cotswold Killing by Rebecca Tope
181. Amazon - Kindle - The Radium Girls by Kate Moore
182. Costco - The Last Anniversary by Liane Moriarty
183. Costo - The Late Show by Michael Connelly
184. Thrift Shop - Devoted in Death by J.D. Robb
185. Thrift Shop - Obsession in Death by J.D. Robb
186. Thrift Shop - Brotherhood in Death by J.D. Robb
187. Thrift Shop - The Ravenous Must by Karen Elizabeth Gordon
188. Thrift Shop - A Year with G.K. Chesteron edited by Kevin Belmonte
189. Thrift Shop - The No. 1 Ladies' Detective Agency by Alexander McCall Smith
190. Barnes & Noble - Pretty Girls by Karin Slaughter
191. Amazon - The Killings at Badger's Drift by Caroline Graham
192. Colepark Thrift Shop - Night of the Avenging Blowfish by John Welter
193. Amazon - The Luminaries by Eleanor Catton
194. Barnes & Noble - Astrophysics for People in a Hurry by Neil DeGrasse Tyson
195. Barnes & Noble - Y is for Yesterday by Sue Grafton

September - 17
196. Bookmooch - Old Filth by Jane Gardam
197. Amazon - Magpie Murders by Anthony Horowitz
198. Chapel Hill Friends of the Library Book Sale - Beautiful Ruins by Jess Walter
199. Chapel Hill Friends of the Library Book Sale - The Trespasser by Tana French
200. Chapel Hill Friends of the Library Book Sale - Truly Mady Guilty by Liane Moriarty
201. Amazon - A Gentleman in Moscow by Amor Towles
202. The Book of Love and Hate by Lauren Sanders
203. Amazon - Theodore Rex by Edmund Morris
204. Thrift Shop - Moo by Jane Smiley
205. Thrift Shop - Number 11 by Jonathan Coe
206. Thrift Shop - Jack with a Twist by Brenda Janowitz
207. Thrift Shop - November 22, 1963 by Adam Braver
208. Amazon - Glass Houses by Louise Penny
209. Amazon - Sleeping Beauties by Stephen King and Owen King
210. Thrift Shop - The Last Dragonslayer by Jasper Fforde
211. Thrift Shop - The Man Who Loved China by Simon Winchester
212. Thrift shop - Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln by Doris Kearns Goodwin

October - 57
213. Bookmooch - Dead Wake: The Last Crossing of the Lusitania by Erik Larson
214. Amazon - The Midwich Cuckoos by John Wyndham
215. streamsong - The Sympathizer by Viet Thanh Nguyen
216. FotL Book Sale - 1066 and All That by W.C. Sellar & R.J. Yeatman
217. FotL Book Sale - A Suitable Boy by Vikram Seth
218. FotL Book Sale - America (The Book): A Citizen's Guide to Democracy Inaction by Jon Stewart, Ben Karlin, and David Javerbaum
219. FotL Book Sale - Aristophanes: The Frogs and the Birds by Aristophanes
220. FotL Book Sale - Aristotle and an Aardvark go to Washington by Thomas Cathcart and Daniel Klein
221. FotL Book Sale - Bright-sided: How the Relentless Promotion of Positive Thinking Has Undermined America by Barbara Ehrenreich
222. FotL Book Sale - Burning by Diane Johnson
223. FotL Book Sale - Canadian History for Dummies by Will Ferguson
224. FotL Book Sale - Complete Birds of North America by Jonathan Alderfer
225. FotL Book Sale - Death in the Garden by Elizabeth Ironside
226. FotL Book Sale - Do Not Say We Have Nothing by Madeleine Thein
227. FotL Book Sale - Double Negative by David Carkeet
228. FotL Book Sale - Eleanor Oliphant Is Completely Fine by Gail Honeyman
229. FotL Book Sale - George Washington's Secret Six: The Spy Ring That Saved the American Revolution by Brian Kilmeade and Don Yaeger
230. FotL Book Sale - Girl Waits with Gun by Amy Stwart
231. FotL Book Sale - In the Heart of the Sea: The Tragedy of the Whaleship Essex by Nathaniel Philbrick
232. FotL Book Sale - Islam For Dummies by Malcolm Clark
233. FotL Book Sale - J. D. Salinger: A Life by Kenneth Slawenski
234. FotL Book Sale - Letters of the Scattered Brotherhood by Mary Strong
235. FotL Book Sale - Murder at the Library of Congress by Margaret Truman
236. FotL Book Sale - My Life and Hard Times by James Thurber
237. FotL Book Sale - On the Road by Jack Kerouac
238. FotL Book Sale - Play It As It Lays by Joan Didion
239. FotL Book Sale - Someone at a Distance by Dorothy Whipple
240. FotL Book Sale - The African Queen by C.S. forester
241. FotL Book Sale - The Angel's Game by Carlos Ruiz Zafón
242. FotL Book Sale - The Bird Feeder Book: Attracting, Identifying, Understanding Feeder Birds by Donald and Lillian Stokes
243. FotL Book Sale - The Birdwatcher by William Shaw
244. FotL Book Sale - The Book of Merlyn by T.H. White
245. FotL Book Sale - The Chimney Sweeper's Boy by Barbara Vine
246. FotL Book Sale - The Compleat Angler by Izaak Walton
247. FotL Book Sale - The Day of the Triffids by John Wyndham
248. FotL Book Sale - The Fireside Watergate by Nicholas Von Hoffman
249. FotL Book Sale - The Last Stand: Custer, Sitting Bull, and the Battle of the Little Bighorn by Nathaniel Philbrick
250. FotL Book Sale - The Lola Quartet by Emily St. John Mandel
251. FotL Book Sale - The Minotaur by Barbara Vine
252. FotL Book Sale - The Paying Guests by Sarah Waters
253. FotL Book Sale - The Price of Salt by Patricia Highsmith
254. FotL Book Sale - The Secret Book of Grazia dei Rossi by Jacqueline Park
255. FotL Book Sale - The Secrets She Keeps by Michael Robotham
256. FotL Book Sale - The Singer's Gun by Emily St. John Mandel
257. FotL Book Sale - The Supremes at Earl's All-You-Can-Eat by Edward Kelsey Moore
258. FotL Book Sale - The Weekenders by Mary Kay Andrews
259. FotL Book Sale - This Must be the Place by Maggie O'Farrell
260. FotL Book Sale - Three by Finney by Jack Finney
261. FotL Book Sale - Two Lives by Vikram Seth
262. FotL Book Sale - We Hold These Truths by David S. Mitchell
263. Bookmooch - A Promise of Spring by Mary Balogh
264. Bookmooch - The Fox Inheritance by Mary E. Pearson
265. BooksAMillion - Eve in Hollywood by Amor Towles
266. Thrift Shop - Longbourn by Jo Baker
267. Amazon - The Watchmaker of Filigree Street by Natasha Pulley
268. Amazon - The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle by Haruki Murakami
269. Amazon - Two Kinds of Truth by Michael Connelly

November - 12
270. Amazon - News of the World by Paulette Jiles
271. Amazon - The Midnight Line by Lee Child
272. Thrift Shop - A Game of Thrones by George R.R. Martin
273. Amazon- One Coffee With by Margaret Maron
274. Friend Louise - Sullivan's Evidence by Nancy Taylor Rosenberg
275. Mom - Amazing Hummingbirds by Stan Tekiela
276. Friend Tamsie - Prayers for the Stolen by Jennifer Clement
277. Friend Jan – Nothing Like It In The World by Stephen E. Ambrose
278. Friend Jan – Empire of the Summer Moon by S.C. Gwynne
279. Friend Jan – The Age of Gold by H.W. Brands
280. Habitat for Humanity – Nostradamus: The Man Who Saw Through Time by Lee McCann
281. Amazon - A Christmas Memory by Truman Capote

December - 1
282. Amazon - A Good Man is Hard to Find and Other Stories by Flannery O'Conner

Edited: Dec 5, 2017, 5:47am Top

Culls for 2017

1. The Stolen Bride by Jo Beverley Drivel
2. Defining the Wind by Scott Huler I will never read this book
3. Tishomingo Blues by Elmore Leonard started, abandoned
4. Touch by Elmore Leonard bookmooched but won't ever read
5. Tales of the South Pacific by James Michener duplicate
6. Tales of the South Pacific by James Michener triplicate
7. The United States of Europe by T.R. Reid duplicate
8. The Dutiful Daughter by Vanessa Gray too stupid to keep
9. A Darkness More Than Night by Michael Connelly duplicate
10. A Passage to India by E.M. Forster duplicate
11. A Tree Grows in Brooklyn by Betty Smith duplicate
12. A Tree Grows in Brooklyn by Betty Smith triplicate
13. A Woman of Independent Means by Elizabeth Forsythe Hailey duplicate
14. And Then There Were None by Agatha Christie duplicate
15. Angels Flight by Michael Connelly duplicate
16. Anna's Book by Ruth Rendell writing as Barbara vine duplicate with Asta's Book
17. Balthazar (Alexandria Quartet) by Lawrence Durrell duplicate
18. Black Orchids by Rex Stout duplicate
19. Clea (Alexandria Quartet) by Lawrence Durrell duplicate
20. Justine (Alexandria Quartet) by Lawrence Durrell duplicate
21. Mountolive (Alexandria Quartet) by Lawrence Durrell duplicate
22. A Darkness More Than Night by Michael Connelly duplicate
23. Dinner at Antoine's by Frances Parkinson Keyes duplicate
24. Portrait of a Killer: Jack the Ripper Case Closed by Patricia Cornwell duplicate
25. Gulliver's Travels by Jonathan Swift duplicate
26. Gulliver's Travels by Jonathan Swift triplicate
27. Cat People by Bill Hayward duplicate (I bought one copy, a friend gave me a second, so I'm keeping the second out of sentimentality)
28. The Xibalba Murders by Lyn Hamilton abandoned after 122 pages
29. A Spool of Blue Thread by Anne Tyler meh didn't want to read
30. The Spanish Bride by Georgette Heyer got a new trade paperback
31. David Coperfield by Charles Dickens, duplicate
32. Great Expectations by Charles Dickens, duplicate
33. Oliver Twist by Charles Dickens, duplicate
34. Cyrano de Bergerac by Edmond Rostand translation by Brian Hooker duplicate
35. The Canterbury Tales by Geoffrey Chaucer duplicate
36. The Power and the Glory by Graham Greene duplicate
37. The Elements of Style by Strunk and White
38. The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck
39. Miracle in the Hills by Maqry T. Martin Sloop duplicate
40. Lord Jim by Joseph Conrad duplicate
41. Little Women by Louisa May Alcott
42. Joy in the Morning by Betty Smith duplicate
43. Roots by Alex Haley duplicate
44. Sons and Lovers by D.H. Lawrence duplicate
45. Tales of Beedle the Bard by J.K. Rowling duplicate
46. The Road by Cormac McCarthy duplicate
47. In Search of J.D. Salinger by Ian Hamilton duplicate (kept SGiV's copy)
48. Brat Farrar by Josephine Tey triplicate
49. Brat Farrar by Josephine Tey triplicate
50. The Daughter of Time by Josephine Tey triplicate
51. The Daughter of Time by Josephine Tey triplicate
52. The Franchise Affair by Josephine Tey duplicate
53. Miss Pym Disposes by Josephine Tey duplicate
54. A Shilling for Candles by Josephine Tey duplicate
55. The Singing Sands by Josephine Tey duplicate
56. The Bridge of San Luis Rey by Thornton Wilder duplicate in Thornton Wilder Trio
57. Alice in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Carroll triplicate
58. Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen duplicate
59. Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain duplicate
60. Casual Day Has Gone Too Far by Scott Adams duplicate, given to daughter
61. Clouds of Witness by Dorothy L. Sayers duplicate
62. Gaudy Night by Dorothy L. Sayers triplicate
63. Gaudy Night by Dorothy L. Sayers triplicate
64. Have His Carcase by Dorothy L. Sayers duplicate
65. Verdict of Twelve by Raymond Postgate don't want to keep
66. The Mayor of Castorbridge by Thomas Hardy duplicate
67. A Murder in Time by Julie McElwain don't want to keep
68. The Mayor of Casterbridge by Thomas Hardy triplicate
69. Up the Down Staircase by Bel Kaufman duplicate
70. Tarzan of the Apes by Edgar Rice Burroughs duplicate
71. The toplofty Lord Thorpe by Kasey Michaels 2.5 stars taking up shelf space
72. The Beleaguered Lord Bourne by Kasey Michaels 2.5 stars taking up shelf space
73. The Ruthless Lord Rule by Kasey Michaels 2.5 stars taking up shelf space
74. The Enterprising Lord Edward by Kasey Michaels 2.5 stars taking up shelf space
75. Journey to Ixtlan by Carlos Castaneda duplicate
76. Lucy: The Beginnings of Humankind by Donald Johanson duplicate
77. the lives and times of archy and mehitabel by don marquis duplicate
78. Lord Peter by Dorothy Sayers duplicate
79. QB VII by Leon Uris duplicate
80. Seabiscuit by Laura Hilldebrand duplicate
81. No Second Chance by Harlan Coben duplicate
82. The Tao of Pooh by Benjamin Hoff duplicate
83. the Floatplane Notebooks by Clyde Edgerton duplicate
84. Shining Through by Susan Isaacs duplicate
85. Red Sky at Morning by Richard Bradford duplicate
86. The Woods by Harlan Coben duplicate
87. The French Lieutenant's Woman by John Fowles duplicate
88. The Doorbell Rang by Rex Stout duplicate
89. The Doorbell Rang by Rex Stout triplicate
90. Tutankhamun:The Untold Story by Thomas Hoving duplicate
91. Tess of the D'Urbervilles by Thomas Hardy duplicate
92. The Return of the Native by Thomas Hardy duplicate
93. Far from the Madding Crowd by Thomas Hardy duplicate
94. Life's Little Instruction Book by H. Jackson Brown Jr. duplicate
95. The Sound and the Fury by William Faulkner duplicate, contained within anthology
96. The Wind in the Willows by Kenneth Grahame duplicate
97. Royal Escape by Georgette Heyer duplicate
98. Bulfinch's Mythology by Thomas Bulfinch duplicate
99. O Pioneers! by Willa Cather duplicate contained within anthology
100. The Vicar of Wakefield by Oliver Goldsmith duplicate
101. The Sherlock Holmes Novels by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle duplicate
102. Clouds of Witness by Dorothy Sayers duplicate
103. Unnatural Death by Dorothy Sayers duplicate
104. Whose Body? by Dorothy Sayers duplicate
105. The Unpleasantness at the Bellona Club by Dorothy Sayers duplicate
106. Busman's Honeymoon by Dorothy Sayers duplicate
107. The Nine Tailors by Dorothy Sayers duplicate
108. The Balloon Man by Charlotte Armstrong duplicate, contained within anthology
109. The Witch's House by Charlotte Armstrong duplicate, contained within anthology
110. The Gift Shop by Charlotte Armstrong duplicate, contained within anthology
111. The Turret Room by Charlotte Armstrong duplicate, contained within anthology
112. The Woman in White by Wilkie Collins duplicate
113. Austenland by Hale, Shannon 2.5 stars
114. The Far Traveler: Voyages of a Viking Woman by Brown, Nancy Marie 2.5 stars
115. Einstein's Dreams by Lightman, Alan 2.5 stars
116. The Private Diary of Mr. Darcy by Slater, Maya 2.5 stars
117. The Great Influenza (The Epic Story of the Deadliest Plague in History) by Barry, John M. 2.5 stars
118. 'Tis by McCourt, Frank 2.5 stars
119. Fire and Ice by Stuart, Anne 2 stars
120. Justinian's Flea: Plague, Empire, and the Birth of Europe by Rosen, William 2.5 stars
121. Fangs But No Fangs (The Young Brothers, Book 2) by Love, Kathy 2.5 stars
122. Fangs for the Memories (The Young Brothers, Book 1) by Love, Kathy 2.5 stars
123. I Only Have Fangs for You (The Young Brothers, Book 3) by Love, Kathy 2.5 stars
124. The Giver by Lowry, Lois 2.5 stars
125. The Member of the Wedding by McCullers, Carson 2 stars
126. The Assault by Harry Mulisch started it, didn't like it
127. My Brilliant Friend by Elena Ferrante started it, didn't like it
128. Astray by Emma Donoghue duplicate
129. van Loon's Lives by Henrik Willem van Loon duplicate
130. The Man of Property by John Galsworthy duplicate
131. Sandy Koufax - Strikeout King by Arnold Hano - will never read
132. Lincoln: A Life of Purpose and Power by Richard J. Carwardine started listening and didn't like the reader's voice and didn't like the tenor of the book
133. The World is Flat by Thomas L. Friedman - dated, boring
134. Ladies' Night by Mary Kay Andrews - bought in CA, not worth paying to ship home to NC
135. A Study in Scarlet/The Hound of the Baskervilles by A. Conan Doyle
136. Go Set a Watchman by Harper Lee audiobook, duplicate, 2nd one purchased better quality
137. The Judas Pair by Jonathan Gash
138. The Witches of Lychford by Paul Cornell
139. spill simmer falter wither by Sara Baume abandoned yeesh. depressing. And dogs.
140. Julie & Julia by Julie Powell mass market paperback replaced with trade paperback
141. The Perfect Husband by Lisa Gardner
142. Run by Ann Patchett
143. The Widow of the South by Robert Hicks
144. The Crying of Lot 49 by Thomas Pynchon blech
145. Ghost Stories from the American Southwest by Richard and Judy Dockrey Young - I took it off the shelf to scan the cover, looked through it, and realized I'd never, ever read it
146. Tales of the City by Armistead Maupin
147. More Tales of the City by Armistead Maupin
148. Further Tales of the City by Armistead Maupin
149. Significant Others by Armistead Maupin
150. Sure of You by Armistead Maupin
151. Babycakes by Armistead Maupin
152. Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children by Ransom Riggs
153. The Book of Love and Hate by Lauren Sanders - ER book, blech
154. Timequake by Kurt Vonnegut Jr. will never finish
155. Tree of Smoke by Denis Johnson will never finish
156. The World is Flat by Thomas L. Friedman will never read. started audiobook and hated it.
157. Jack with a Twist by Brenda Janowitz - cute little book but I'm going to start culling cute little books to make room for non-cute-little books
158. A Duty to the Dead by Charles Todd - duplicate
159. One Man's Bible - by Gao Xingjian - duplicate
160. 77 Shadow Street by Dean Koontz
161. carrie by Stephen King
162. Christine by Stephen King
163. Cold Fire by Dean Koontz
164. Cujo by Stephen King
165. dolores claiborne by Stephen King
166. Dragon Tears by Dean Koontz
167. False Memory by Dean Koontz
168. Firestarter by Stephen King
169. IT by Stephen King
170. Lightning by Dean Koontz
171. Nightmares and Dreamscapes by Stephen King
172. One door Away from Heaven by Dean Koontz
173. Pet Sematary by Stephen King
174. Seize the Night by Dean Koontz
175. Skeleton Crew by Stephen King
176. The Darkest Evening of the Year by Dean Koontz
177. The Eyes of the Dragon by Stephen King
178. The House of Thunder by Dean Koontz
179. The Shawshank Redemption by Stephen King
180. The Tommyknockers by Stephen King
181. What the Night Knows by Dean Koontz
182. Your Heart Belongs to Me by Dean Koontz
183. Pay Dirt by Rita Mae Brown
184. Murder at Monticello by Rita Mae Brown
185. Night of the Avenging Blowfish by John Welter nope nope nope
186. Being Dead by Jim Crace duplicate
187. The Kookaburra Gambit by Claire McNab just because
188. A Christmas Memory by Truman Capote duplicate
189. Wide Sargasso Sea by Jean Rhys I'll never read it
190. Out of the Blackout by Robert Barnard read, don't need to keep

Edited: Dec 1, 2017, 4:02am Top

Year-to-Date Statistics through November 30

88 books read
30823 pages read
1,743 pages of The Literary Study Bible, 251 pages of The Complete Idiot's Guide to the Bible
80.35 audiobook hours
Average pages read per day, YTD = 92
Average pages read per book, YTD = 350

Male 61%
Female 39%

Living 73%
Dead 27%

US Born 43%
Foreign Born 57%

Hardcover 40%
Trade Pback 32%
Mass Market 7%
Audiobook 8%
e-Book 14%

My Library 95%
Other 5%

Re-read 6%
Series 52%

Fiction 86%
NonFiction 14%

Author Birth Country
Australia 3%
Austria 1%
Canada 1%
England 42%
England and Scotland 1%
Israel 1%
Italy 1%
Japan 1%
Scotland 3%
South Africa 1%
US 43%

Original Year Published
1852 1%
1922 1%
1930 1%
1939 2%
1940 2%
1946 1%
1950 1%
1951 1%
1952 1%
1953 1%
1956 1%
1961 1%
1965 1%
1973 2%
1976 1%
1977 1%
1980 1%
1981 1%
1982 2%
1987 1%
1989 1%
1990 2%
1993 1%
1995 2%
1997 2%
1998 2%
1999 2%
2000 1%
2001 1%
2002 2%
2004 3%
2005 3%
2006 2%
2008 2%
2009 1%
2011 3%
2012 3%
2013 2%
2014 3%
2015 8%
2016 9%
2017 13%

Anthropology 1%
Biography 1%
Fantasy 8%
Fiction 17%
Geography 1%
Historical Fiction 11%
Literary Fiction 2%
Memoir 8%
Mystery 39%
Nature 1%
Political Satire 1%
Romance 7%
Science 1%
Science Fiction 1%

Edited: Nov 24, 2017, 10:42am Top

A BOOK A YEAR FOR THE FIRST 64 YEARS OF MY LIFE, inspired by Paul Cranswick's list of books for his first 50 years.

The biggest takeaway I get from this list is the number of outstanding books I still need to read - most of the years have outstanding books that I haven't read yet.

1953 Nine Stories by J.D. Salinger
1954 Lord of the Flies by William Golding
1955 The Day Lincoln was Shot by Jim Bishop
1956 The Enormous Egg by Oliver Butterworth
1957 Ordeal by Innocence by Agatha Christie
1958 Anatomy of a Murder by Robert Traver
1959 Hawaii by James Michener
1960 To Kill a Mockingbird by Harper Lee
1961 Franny and Zooey by J.D. Salinger
1962 One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest by Ken Kesey
1963 Raise High the Roofbeam, Carpenters, and Seymour: An Introduction by J.D. Salinger
1964 Up the Down Staircase by Bel Kaufman
1965 The Source by James Michener
1966 Flowers for Algernon by Daniel Keyes
1967 Listen to the Warm by Rod McKuen
1968 The Teachings of Don Juan by Carlos Castaneda
1969 Slaughterhouse Five by Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
1970 QBVII by Leon Uris
1971 The Exorcist by William Peter Blatty
1972 The Optimist's Daughter by Eudora Welty
1973 W.C. Fields by Himself: His Intended Autobiography with Commentary by Ronald J. Fields
1974 The Killer Angels by Michael Shaara
1975 Crazy Salad by Nora Ephron
1976 Roots by Alex Haley
1977 In Patagonia by Bruce Chatwin
1978 Tutankhamun: The Untold Story by Thomas Hoving
1979 Sophie's Choice by William Styron
1980 A Delicate Arrangement : The Strange Case of Charles Darwin and Alfred Russel Wallace by Arnold C.
1981 Lucy: the Beginnings of Humankind by Donald C. Johansen
1982 Shoeless Joe by W.P. Kinsella
1983 The Name of the Rose by Umberto Eco
1984 Jitterbug Perfume by Tom Robbins
1985 Lennon by Ray Coleman
1986 The Prince of Tides by Pat Conroy
1987 And the Band Played On: Politics, People and the Aids Epidemic by Randy Shilts
1988 Battle Cry of Freedom by James McPherson
1989 It's Always Something by Gilda Radner
1990 In Pursuit of the Green Lion by Judith Merkle Riley
1991 Outlander by Diana Gabaldon
1992 The Black Echo by Michael Connelly
1993 The Shipping News by Annie Proulx
1994 Stones from the River by Ursula Hegi
1995 Longitude by Dava Sobel
1996 Alias Grace by Margaret Atwood
1997 Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone by J.K. Rowling
1998 The Professor and the Madman by Simon Winchester
1999 Girl with a Pearl Earring by Tracy Chevalier
2000 Founding Brothers: The Revolutionary Generation by Joseph J. Ellis
2001 Peace Like a River by Leif Enger
2002 Kafka on the Shore by Haruki Murukami
2003 A Short History of Nearly Everything by Bill Bryson
2004 11,000 Years by Peni R. Griffin
2005 The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo by Stieg Larsson
2006 The Road by Cormac McCarthy
2007 The Yiddish Policeman's Union by Michael Chabon
2008 The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society by Mary Ann Shaffer
2009 Under the Dome by Stephen King
2010 Room by Emma Donoghue
2011 11/22/63 by Stephen King
2012 The Light Between Oceans by M.L. Stedman
2013 Z: A Novel of Zelda Fitzgerald by Therese Anne Fowler
2014 The Goldfinch by Donna Tartt
2015 The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet by Becky Chambers
2016 A Gentleman in Moscow by Amor Towles
2017 Lincoln in the Bardo by George Saunders

Nov 24, 2017, 10:39am Top

Next one is yours!

Nov 24, 2017, 10:47am Top

Happy New Thread, Karen!! (am I really first?!)

Nov 24, 2017, 10:47am Top

Happy new thread, Karen!
I see you are still going well with reading, adding and culling :-)

Nov 24, 2017, 11:01am Top

Our years overlap almost entirely, but I've only read 19 of the books on your year-by-year list. A few more are on the shelves, physical or electronic. Well, something to strive for!

I hope your Thanksgiving was joyous and the weekend is fine.

Edited: Nov 24, 2017, 11:05am Top

>8 jessibud2: Hi Shelley and yes you are! Thanks.

>9 FAMeulstee: Hi Anita! Books, books, books. Yup. In all ways, shapes, and forms.

>10 ffortsa: Hi Judy! I had so much fun making that list that I decided to post it through the end of the year. I have found that I'm in about the same boat as you with other peoples' lists - a third or so.

Definitely something to strive for. I keep adding books to my wishlist and tbr stacks. Right now I have over 18 years worth of books to read if I read 100 a year for the next 18 years. And of course I always need new books.....

Thanksgiving was wonderful.

Husband and daughter are discussing J.K. and Harry Potter. We've decided to watch Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them because daughter hasn't seen it yet. So today will be relaxing and food and movies. not a bad way to spend the Friday after Thanksgiving.

Tomorrow is Christmas tree acquisition and decoration.

Nov 24, 2017, 11:24am Top

Hi Karen and Happy New Thread!

Yum, yum! Your Thanksgiving Buffet looked wonderful. I'm glad you liked the fruit cakes - and A Christmas Memory. You can see why your baking made me think of the book!

Sounds like a lovely weekend planned.

I watched Beasts in the theater, but it was at a time where my eyes were not at their best and I had to 'watch' part of it with my eyes closed due to all the swooping beasties. I'll have to add it to my DVD queue - thanks for the reminder.

Nov 24, 2017, 11:31am Top

Happy New Thread, Karen. Happy Friday. Sounds like you are having a good time with the family. Enjoy.

Nov 24, 2017, 2:11pm Top

Happy New Thread, Karen, and happy day-after-Thanksgiving. It sounds like you have a good day planned: relaxing and food and movies (and no shopping). Perfect.

Nov 24, 2017, 4:23pm Top

Happy New Thread, Karen! I hope you're having a good holiday weekend.

Your year-by-year list has a bunch I loved. It was fun to be reminded of Up the Down Staircase - I had such a good time with that one way back when.

Nov 24, 2017, 4:34pm Top

Karen--Another new thread!! Congratulations. : ) Have fun with the Christmas tree acquisition tomorrow.

Edited: Nov 24, 2017, 5:34pm Top

Happy new thread, Karen! Good luck in the Christmas tree hunt.

Nov 24, 2017, 6:16pm Top

>12 streamsong: Thank you Janet. Everything has been going well, so far.

You’re welcome! Daughter loved Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them. I see that there will be a new one out next year, the second installment called Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald.

>13 msf59: Thanks, Mark! It’s been relaxing and fun so far. We’re now having leftover Thanksgiving dinner. Mine’s re-heating in the microwave…..

>14 EBT1002: Hi Ellen and thank you. Good day, I even took about a 2 hour nap!

>15 jnwelch: I loved Up the Down Staircase, Joe, and to this day say Silly-ass Mariner instead of Silas Marner.

>16 Berly: Yup. Thanks, Berly! I would like it to be late afternoon tomorrow, after it’s all done. Then, relaxing and more movies. Daughter doesn’t have to go home ‘til Sunday, not Saturday, so yay.

>17 harrygbutler: Thanks, Harry. There is a little roadside stand we’ve gone to for the last two years – a family business in the mountains. They grow and cut their own trees and have lovely wreaths, too. Not super cheap, but supporting ‘local’ business and stunningly fresh.

Nov 24, 2017, 6:59pm Top

"I even took about a 2 hour nap!"
That sounds lovely.

Nov 24, 2017, 7:09pm Top

>18 karenmarie: When we lived in western New York we patronized a farm where you could cut your own or buy a precut tree, Wilbert's Christmas Tree Farm (https://www.wilbertsinc.com/christmas-trees/; the rest of the business is auto parts). It made for a nice outing, especially if it had snowed but wasn't too cold; then you could have the fun of picking and cutting down a tree without worrying about wrangling it along muddy paths.

Nov 24, 2017, 7:22pm Top

Nov 24, 2017, 8:23pm Top

Happy new thread!

Oh, and, >21 richardderus: Bwa-ha-ha!! 🤣

Nov 24, 2017, 9:06pm Top

Happy new thread dear Karen.

Your threads this year have been a constant joy to me.

Nov 24, 2017, 9:42pm Top

Happy New Thread, Karen!

Nov 24, 2017, 11:55pm Top

Happy New Thread from me too, Karen!!! I'm pretty much intimidated by all those wonderful lists and wish I had time to go through them thoroughly. (I love to write "through" and "thorough" in the same sentence!)
I wish you wonderful books for the rest of the year and look forward to seeing what you think of them!

Nov 25, 2017, 1:42am Top

Happy new thread, Karen. Your buffet at the end of your last thread looked scrumptious. Enjoy the rest of your weekend and all the family time!

Nov 25, 2017, 6:55am Top

>19 EBT1002: Hi Ellen! Naps are so wonderful! It would have been longer except Diane woke me up with a phone call. I had sent her the Banana Cream Pie recipe and she had a recipe question. I could probably have slept another hour or two.

>20 harrygbutler: I know some people who make it a day’s project to drive to the NC mountains to get their trees. It is a nice outing. We’re lazy……. *smile*

>21 richardderus: That is one of the strangest images I’ve seen in a very long time, RD, always excepting the bloviating orange gasbag.

>22 drneutron: Thanks, Jim!

>23 PaulCranswick: Thank you Paul, twice over. I feel very lucky that so many people want to come visit.

>24 ronincats: Thanks, Roni!

>25 LizzieD: I don’t expect people to go through my lists although I like seeing what people have read during the year myself. The lists are there for me to keep track of things. I’m going to print them and stick them in this year’s desk diary in early January when I retire 2017 and start 2018.

Very nifty, using both words. Thanks re books, too. I’m not quite intimidated but almost intimidated about getting to 100. Short and sweet books, although I’m about 1/3 through The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle. I was humming along nicely with it, then near the end of book 1 there was a very traumatic scene that I mostly skipped over but still have in my mind. It took me four days to start reading again, and I’ve read several books since starting it. I will finish it, perhaps even by month end.

Yesterday afternoon I finished Come, Tell Me How You Life, a memoir by Agatha Christie about archaeological digs in Syria with her second husband Sir Max Mallowan. I think I’ll try to write a review in a bit.

>26 Familyhistorian: Thanks Meg! Leftovers were good, too, last night. It’s fun having daughter home. I do know, however, that I will be happy on Monday morning when the holiday weekend is over and husband is back at work and daughter back in Wilmington and back at work too! Introvert…..

Nov 25, 2017, 7:03am Top

Morning, Karen. Happy Saturday. Getting ready to head out and wrap up my work week. The weather continues to be decent. Whew.

I am really enjoying Flower Moon.

Edited: Nov 29, 2017, 10:59am Top

Apologies for the length of this review, but I couldn't resist putting in the poem that prefaces the book, written by Dame Agatha herself. It is clever and fun and along with the Foreward, sets the light-hearted tone.

86. Come, Tell Me How You Live by Agatha Christie Mallowan
11/18/17 to 11/24/17

The description from Amazon:

Agatha Christie's memoirs about her travels to Syria and Iraq in the 1930s with her archaeologist husband Max Mallowan Agatha Christie was already well known as a crime writer when she accompanied her husband, Max Mallowan, to Syria and Iraq in the 1930s. She took enormous interest in all his excavations, and when friends asked what her strange life was like, she decided to answer their questions in this delightful book. First published in 1946, Come, Tell Me How You Live is now reissued in B format. It gives a charming picture of Agatha Christie herself, and is, as Jacquetta Hawkes concludes in her Introduction, 'a pure pleasure to read'.

Why I wanted to read it: A new movie version of Murder on the Orient Express came out this fall and I had Dame Agatha on my mind. I’ve never read this memoir before, so it seemed like the right time.
A-Sitting On A Tell
(With apologies to Lewis Caroll)

I’ll tell you everything I can
if you will listen well:
I met an erudite young man
a-sitting on a Tell.
“Who are you, sir?” to him I said,
“For what is it you look?”
His answer trickled through my head
like bloodstains in a book.

He said: “I look for aged pots
of prehistoric days
and then I measure them in lots
and lots of different ways.
And then (like you) I start to write,
my words are twice as long
as yours, and far more erudite.
They prove my colleagues wrong!”

But I was thinking of a plan
to kill a millionaire
and hide the body in a van
or some large Frigidaire.
So, having no reply to give,
and feeling rather shy,
I cried: “Come, tell me how you live!
And when, and where, and why?”

His accents mild were full of wit:
“Five thousand years ago
is really, when I think of it,
the choicest Age I know.
And once you learn to scorn A.D.
and you have got the knack,
then you could come and dig with me
and never wander back.”

But I was thinking how to thrust
some arsenic in tea,
and could not all at once adjust
my mind so far B.C.
I looked at him and softly sighed–
his face was pleasant too…
“Come, tell me how you live?” I cried,
“And what it is you do?”

He said: “I hunt for objects made
by men where’er they roam,
I photograph and catalogue
and pack and send them home.
These things we do not sell for gold
(nor yet, indeed, for copper!),
but place them on Museum shelves
as only right and proper.

“I sometimes dig up amulets
and figurines most lewd,
for in those prehistoric days
they were extremely rude!
And that’s the way we take our fun,
’tis not the way of wealth.
But archaeologists live long,
and have the finest health.”

I heard him then, for I had just
completed a design
to keep a body free from dust
by boiling it in brine.
I thanked him much for telling me
with so much erudition,
and said that I would go with him
upon an Expedition…

And now, if e’er by chance I dip
my fingers into acid,
or smash some pottery (with slip!)
because I am not placid,
or if I see a river flow,
and hear a far-off yell,
I sigh, for it reminds me so
of that young man I learned to know–

Whose look was mild, whose speech was slow,
whose thoughts were in the long ago,
whose pockets sagged with potsherds so,
who lectured learnedly and low,
who used long words I didn’t know,
whose eyes, with fervor all aglow,
upon the ground looked to and fro,
who sought conclusively to show
that there were things I ought to know
and that with him I ought to go
and dig upon a Tell!
And in the Foreward we are told It is, in fact, small beer – a very little book, full of everyday doings and happenings.

It is not grandiose, and there are no archaeological discussions or real timelines. This is simply the story of Agatha Christie Mallowan’s adventures on the archaeological digs led by her husband. There are misadventures with cars, bats, fleas, government workers, rooms, wadis, food, food poisoning, fights among workmen, heat, headaches, and stories related to health and lack of it. There are also, alas, Dame Agatha’s prejudices, but also her love of the Arab, Kurdish, and Armenian people, almost in the same sentence.

And finally, there is the love of being away from ‘civilization’, living simply, in real time, as it were, and being able to participate in her husband’s life directly and with his knowledge of his world on display and in charge. Her world of literary success is totally absent, and I think she reveled in this. She loved and commented on the stark beauty of the countryside. She was also self-depracating at her squeamishness about fleas and spiders and the rough-and-tumble of camp life.

There was a constant theme of trying to establish a relationship with the architect on the dig, Robin Macarthy, who was aloof and focused on his work and pretty much didn’t have time for Mrs. Mallowan. This really bothered her. Finally, Mac as he was called, loosened up, and they became great friends. He even designed the dust jackets for 4 of her books in subsequent years.

All in all a fun and informative read, small beer, but fun beer for all that. The only thing I can complain about from a writing perspective is her complete overuse of exclamation points. There were at least one or two per page, and it got to the point that I was on the lookout for them!

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Great review, Karen. I may be the only human who has never read an Agatha Christie book but that is because mystery is not a genre I naturally gravitate toward. However, this does sound delightful (maybe because memoir IS!) and the poem is terrific! I think I may seek this one out! :-)

Nov 25, 2017, 8:40am Top

Karen--What a fun little book! And, no, your review was not too long. Thanks for sharing the poem and your thoughts. I like it!

Edited: Nov 25, 2017, 10:46am Top

>30 jessibud2: Hi Shelley! Okay - potatoes from last thread. 3 largish. I think I bought 4 pounds just to be safe, which was 6 potatoes, but have 3 cooked sweet potatoes in the fridge - only used 3 of them. Frankly a bit more potato wouldn't hurt because the recipe makes a lot of streusel topping.

Thanks re the review. If not the only human, certainly a minority. Here's some interesting stuff from Wikipedia: Guinness World Records lists Christie as the best-selling novelist of all time. Her novels have sold roughly 2 billion copies, and her estate claims that her works come third in the rankings of the world's most-widely published books, behind only Shakespeare's works and the Bible. According to Index Translationum, she remains the most-translated individual author – having been translated into at least 103 languages. And Then There Were None is Christie's best-selling novel, with 100 million sales to date, making it the world's best-selling mystery ever, and one of the best-selling books of all time. Christie's stage play The Mousetrap holds the world record for longest initial run. It opened at the Ambassadors Theatre in the West End on 25 November 1952 and as of 2017 is still running after more than 25,000 performances.

>31 Berly: Thanks, Berly! I just loved that poem. If you're a Christie fan and haven't read it, I recommend her Autobiography too.

Nov 25, 2017, 11:29am Top

I agree that the Agatha Christie book sounds fun. I've only read one of hers, and have been thinking of reading Murder on the Orient Express before seeing the movie.

I also like memoirs and travel - and a book that can be added to my global reading challenge has double appeal.

Nov 25, 2017, 11:38am Top

>32 karenmarie: - Thanks, Karen. I will report back after I try it

Nov 25, 2017, 3:34pm Top

Happy new thread my dear.

Nov 25, 2017, 3:44pm Top

>33 streamsong: Hi Janet! I just pulled down Murder on the Orient Express for a re-read. I love memoirs, and this one turned out to be just perfect.

>34 jessibud2: Good luck! I'll look forward to hearing how it goes.

>35 johnsimpson: Thanks, John! I am absolutely flabbergasted that I've had 12 threads this year.

We went out to lunch at Moon Asian Bistro. Husband had Chinese, I had Thai, daughter had sushi, and we were all very well pleased. We then went and bought our Christmas tree and 20" wreath. The tree is up. The wreath is on the wall in the breakfast room waiting for its complement of angel ornaments. I think we'll decorate the tree and house tomorrow morning. Daughter will head on back for her last week of work late afternoon or early evening tomorrow. We don't exactly know when daughter will visit again before Christmas, and last year we waited to decorate until she was able to come home and it was just too late. So this will be the earliest we'll ever have started decorating for Christmas.

Edited: Nov 25, 2017, 7:52pm Top

>30 jessibud2:

Nice coincidence - I just started the first entry from dailylit.com of the first Agatha Christie book I've ever read.

Mysteries or any gruesome horror are not what I'm drawn to though Anne Hillerman and early Nevada Barr are fine.

The Secret Adversary has an unforgettable immediate hook on the deck of the sinking Lusitana.

Nov 25, 2017, 4:13pm Top

>27 karenmarie: "I had sent her the Banana Cream Pie recipe..." Hmm. I must search your prior thread for that one. I would provide it to P with a charming smile and a gracious "please." It's one of my favorites.

I want to see the film "Murder on the Orient Express" but I'm determined to read the book first. I may have read it eons ago but I don't recall.

Congratulations for getting your tree up. We'll wait and do ours a couple weeks before Christmas because I'm nervous about the fire hazard.

Edited: Nov 25, 2017, 4:23pm Top

>37 m.belljackson: Hi Marianne! It seems to be an Agatha Christie time again here on our little corner of LT - probably because of the new movie version of Murder on the Orient Express.

I have never particularly liked Tuppence and Tommy, even though I've read 3 of the 5 books they're in. I haven't read The Secret Adversary or Partners in Crime yet. The hook scene in The Secret Adversary sounds intriguing.

>38 EBT1002: Hi Ellen! I sent the banana cream pie to Diane via e-mail. Here it is, though. It's to die for.
Banana Cream Pie
From Cousin Rebecca’s Mother

5 Tbs cornstarch
1 cup sugar
1/4 tsp salt
2 1/2 cup milk
3/4 cup Half and Half
3 egg yolks
2 Tbs margarine
1 teaspoon vanilla
1 baked pie crust
cool whip

Mix cornstarch, sugar, salt, milk, half and half, and egg yolks together in large sauce pan. Heat over medium heat until thick, stirring continually. When mixture is thick remove from heat add butter and vanilla. Stir together. Place bananas in bottom of pie crust pour custard mixture over bananas and chill. Add cool whip to the top before serving.

Karen’s notes:
Blend cornstarch, sugar, and salt together in the pan prior to adding milk, half & half, and egg yolks.

I use a wire whip instead of stirring – makes it completely lumpless.

Butter instead of margarine.

Fresh whipped cream, not cool whip, and serve in dollops on top of individual pieces.

Buy an extra banana because there’s typically more custard than pie pan! You can slice the extra banana into a dish and put the extra custard over it and chill.

I always try to read a book prior to seeing a movie. I remember the storyline of Murder on the Orient Express because it's such a doozy and because I re-read it in February of 2016.

Thanks re the tree. We've bought trees that are brittle and fire hazards a week after getting them, but buying trees from the growers who drive them down directly from the mountains means we have trees that are fresh for the month or so we keep them up. Of course this time it will be more like 6 weeks.

Edited: Nov 25, 2017, 4:27pm Top

And, Ellen, just in case you need a good pie crust, here's the one I use. Strange name, but stunning pie crust. This makes one two-crust pie or two single crust pies.
Flaky Paste from the 1933 Rumford Complete Cook Book

3 cups flour
1 level teaspoon salt
1 1/3 cups lard or other shortening
Ice-cold water to mix

Sift the flour and salt together into a bowl, chop in the shortening in with a knife till well mixed with the flour. Add ice-cold water to form a dough, cutting and mixing the paste thoroughly while adding the water. Flour a board and roll the paste out thinly, rolling only lengthwise, and keeping the edges straight; then fold evenly into three layers (lengthwise as a sheet of paper would be folded to fit a business envelope), turn it half around and roll again. Repeat the folding and rolling twice, and chill the paste if possible before baking. It is the folding and rolling that produce the flakes.

Karen’s Notes: I use Crisco.

Nov 25, 2017, 4:50pm Top

Not that I am going to make it (remember, I live alone; I make it, I eat it), but how many bananas do you use for >39 karenmarie:? Sounds delicious

Nov 25, 2017, 4:58pm Top

>40 karenmarie: Thanks for the magnificent pie crust ! I will use his tomorrow when I need to make a pie.

Nov 25, 2017, 5:15pm Top

>41 jessibud2: Hi Shelley! I used two good-sized bananas. It is rich and creamy.

>42 Whisper1: Hi Linda! I hope it comes out for you - for me it is fool-proof. It rolls out beautifully.

Nov 25, 2017, 6:27pm Top

I saw my first Christmas tree on top of a car today, and sang 'Oh Christmas Tree' to it, as is my wont. Maybe the tree can't hear, but I'm pretty sure the Universe appreciates the effort.

Dad had fun in NY even though he didn't feel well. He fell the first night there. Thank God he didn't break anything, but he was banged up. I was scared to death. If Mom was alive she would have killed me. She always told my brother and me that we could take Dad on excursion but 'Don't bring him back broke.' Said the same thing about the car, now that I think of it.

Oh! A new to me author- Sebastian Fitzek. I listened to the audiobook The Child, and the narrator, Something Glenister, made the book come alive. Fitzek is German, but some of his stuff has been translated into English. You may like him.

Parker's been at Dad's for a few days. He loves it there, and has been giving me the stink eye since we got back. Snort.

Nov 26, 2017, 7:13am Top

Hi Larry!

If you'd been in central NC, you would have seen us bringing back our Christmas tree on top of the car. We didn't sing Christmas carols, though.

Today, however, we'll put the lights on it and decorate it while listening to Christmas music. I've also got a few other decorations to put out, but not many, and that's how we like it.

I've also got many Christmas presents ordered or already here. 2 friends and sister's MiL to go (I think I'll try to make some divinity. It's tricksy to make and I've only been successful 50% of the time. If that doesn't work, I'll get her some nuts.) Got a few for husband and daughter still to get too, and stocking stuffers. I'm 'way ahead of the game.

Nov 26, 2017, 7:49am Top

Morning, Karen. Happy Sunday. My internet is out so my morning routine is completely out of whack. No visiting like usual. I guess I will have to get to the books early.

Hooray for getting the tree up.

Nov 26, 2017, 8:16am Top

Hi Mark!

Thank you. The internet has become like life blood to us. I hope you get it back soon.

For the Bible as Literature group read I just finished Romans, on schedule. I will have read the entire English Standard Version by year's end.

Back to The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle.

Nov 26, 2017, 8:51am Top

>29 karenmarie: Hi Karen! Nice review, loved the poem. I'm a Christie fan, but didn't know she was married to an archaeologist, interesting. Now I get the background on several of her books being set in the Middle East, in Egypt, in ancient Egypt, etc. I can't remember the titles, Murder in Mesopotamia?

>47 karenmarie: I'll be following your reading, as I had the same reaction, I guess to the same spot in the book, and also have put the book aside for the moment. It's strange, because although it was too much for me, this story did stand out in the rest of the narrative. I am going to pick it up again, but later.

Have fun with your Christmas preparations! You definitely are way ahead of the game. :-)

Nov 26, 2017, 8:53am Top

Hope that your Thanksgiving weekend will be rounded off by a wonderful Sunday, Karen.

Edited: Nov 26, 2017, 9:47am Top

>48 EllaTim: Hi Ella! I just did a bit of research, and there were at least four books related to what was called Mesopotamia; Murder on the Orient Express, Murder in Mesopotamia, Death on the Nile, and Appointment with Death. She also wrote a play called Akhnaton which takes place in ancient Egypt. And, of course, Come Tell Me How You Live is her memoir of archaeological digs with her husband Sir Max Mallowan. ‘Tell’ is a play on words, being both a verb and a noun. A tell is an artificial hill created by many generations of people living and rebuilding on the same spot. One of my few 5 star books is about a Tell - The Source by James Michener about Tell Makor, a fictional tell. Archaeology, politics, and religion all play a huge and wonderful role in this, one of my favorite books of all time.

I’m on page 257 of TWUBC, almost halfway there.

>49 PaulCranswick: Hi Paul! Sunday’s good so far. Daughter and husband are watching Sunday morning news shows, I’m in the Sunroom puttering around here on LT and reading TWUBC, drinking coffee. We’ll be doing some Christmas decorating soon, I think, because the Carolina Panthers play today at 1 p.m. and then daughter will leave some time after that to go back to Wilmington.

Nov 26, 2017, 10:23am Top

Good morning, Karen!

I just read on Facebook (so it must be true!) a study saying that people who put up their Christmas decorations earlier are happier. Something to do with evoking childhood memories and getting more enjoyment out of the holidays.

This isn't quite the one I read, but it came up with a quick google:


Nov 26, 2017, 10:51am Top

>40 karenmarie: THAT'S MY PIE CRUST RECIPE!! I never knew where Mamaw got it from, I just copied her index card. (PS when making pecan pie, add 2T cocoa powder to the flour and sift twice; people talk about that crust.)

Happy Sunday. I don't have space for a tree so I have pre-lit artificial garland that I string up around the ceiling. Ornaments look nice on it and I have JILLIONS of them.

Nov 26, 2017, 12:07pm Top

>51 streamsong: Hi Janet! We’ll be very happy, because this will be the earliest ever! You putting up decorations soon?

>52 richardderus: Well, I never! Fantastic, RD. I looked for the perfect pie crust recipe for decades, finally found it when I inherited The Rumsford Cookbook from husband’s family and tried it. It just doesn’t fail for me, ever. BTW, I have 4 copies of this cookbook. Husband’s great-grandmother’s, husband’s grandmother’s, husband’s mother’s, and husband’s great-aunt’s. Before 1915, 1924, 1927, and 1935, respectively. The one I use is the oldest one, held together with one of daughter’s hair ties.

Nice decorating idea for a small space, darling Richard.

Well, Christmas decorating got derailed. Husband and daughter got into a fight and husband actually raised his voice to her, which pissed her off royally. She’s upstairs playing some game on her PS4, husband is sulking in the living room, and I’m here with a massive headache. Husband said that daughter felt the same way about him that he felt about his mother – loved her but didn’t particularly like her – and I’m afraid that at this point in their lives that may be true. I just can’t always be in the middle, or try to mediate, so we’re all just stewing in our own juices. Husband has the irritating habit of liking to ‘discuss’ things but won’t concede that anybody else is right, ever, so daughter and I usually don’t get sucked into it. I wasn’t in the room, so couldn’t head it off this time.

Now I'm sad.

Nov 26, 2017, 1:19pm Top

>53 karenmarie:

Similar scenario here - it seems to happen more around Thanksgiving than Christmas/Hanukkah/Kwanza.

Nov 26, 2017, 2:29pm Top

>53 karenmarie: It'll blow over. It always does. Love ends up being more important in the end. Help them focus on that and your job is done. Can't change 'em, can't kill 'em, so just love on 'em.

Nov 26, 2017, 4:44pm Top

>54 m.belljackson: Hi Marianne. Sorry. It's no fun at all.

Daughter stayed longer this time and I think 5 days became 1 day too many.

>55 richardderus: Sure hope so, RD. I know they love each other, it's just that sometimes they don't like each other.

Daughter's safely home. Tree has lights but no ornaments, but that's okay. Panthers won, 35-27 over the Jets. Yay.

Nov 26, 2017, 7:37pm Top

Oooh, very Christmassy, is this thread! I like the look of the Banana Cream Pie especially with the additions (well, the substitutions, really).

Nov 27, 2017, 2:49am Top

I hope you have a restful week ahead, Karen. Too bad your Christmas decorating day didn't turn out as planned. Interesting review of Come, Tell Me How You Live. I have that on the shelves unread. There is another book about Agatha Christie Grand Tour: Around the World With the Queen of Mystery. It is about a world tour that she and Archie Christie took. It is very interesting and includes letters etc as it was written by her grandson.

Nov 27, 2017, 3:16am Top

>56 karenmarie: Sorry about the headache and the disagreement. Good luck with the tree decorating. We are not getting out tree until next weekend, so I get to live with orange and brown Thanksgiving colors for a few more days before I go red and green. I have 40 pages left in WUBC!!!

Nov 27, 2017, 6:15am Top

>57 LovingLit: Hi Megan! Butter and real whipped cream are Necessary. I'm on top of Christmas so far this year and liking it a lot.

>58 Familyhistorian: Thanks, Meg! Families have their ups and downs and the tension between husband and daughter flares up occasionally.

I have The Grand Tour on my shelves. It's definitely something to look forward to because I've already readAutobiography and Come, Tell Me How You Live by Dame Agatha and recommend them both.

>59 Berly: Hi Berly! Thanks. We got the lights on, I'll probably decorate some time during the week. We used to get our tree the weekend after Thanksgiving until daughter didn't come home between T-day and Christmas.

I've still got the Thanksgiving decorations on the table in the dining room.

And aren't you a marvel! Only 40 pages to go. I'm on page 262 but have also read 5 other books this month. That scene at the end of book 1 unnerved me.

Nov 27, 2017, 6:29am Top

Good morning, Karen! We haven't begun decorating for Christmas yet, but likely will this week. I don't know just how much we'll do — we have quite a bit but often don't put much out, especially if we aren't planning to have guests.

Nov 27, 2017, 6:39am Top

Hi Harry! Have fun with the decorating.

We put out the same amount regardless of whether we have company or not - we very rarely have company since MiL passed away in 2014 - the tree, my Lladro Christmas bell collection, some window wreaths, a big candle, stockings, and a few other small things. The decorating is confined to the dining room, living room, breakfast room, and if we put it out this year, a large outdoor wreath on the master bedroom French doors that can be seen from the street.

Nov 27, 2017, 6:56am Top

Morning Karen. I hope my internet is back up today. Typing on my cell is painfully slow. Fingers crossed.

Edited: Nov 27, 2017, 8:01am Top

Hi Mark! I'll keep my fingers crossed for you, too. Thank you for visiting under such stressful conditions!

Nov 27, 2017, 9:37am Top

Aw snap! Richard's right, it will blow over. Your daughter is really young, still in her 20s, right? All the world changes once a person is in their 30s, so no permanent harm done.

Sorry, that's a bummer.

Nov 27, 2017, 9:45am Top

Hi Larry! I sure hope so. Daughter's 24. Husband's 61 and should have known better.

We ended up having a nice afternoon. We put the lights on the tree, ate leftover Thanksgiving dinner and got some of the Tupperware cleaned out of the refrigerator! We watched the LA Rams (how strange to be saying that again after 23 years!) beat the New Orleans Saints, which was good for the Panthers.

I dozed on the couch from about 7:30 til about 10, but that didn't prevent me from getting a good night's sleep.

Today's errands then either tree decorating, reading, or both before husband gets home from work.

Edited: Nov 27, 2017, 2:45pm Top

>66 karenmarie:

If you'd enjoy a novel where both a lot of football and the Rams eventually figure prominently,
yet do not overpower character and plot, I BEEN IN SORROW'S KITCHEN is good fun reading.

Nov 27, 2017, 4:11pm Top

Hey Horrible. Be strong and remind the 61-year-old how his mother felt.

Nov 27, 2017, 4:24pm Top

Hi Karen, sorry to read that there was a bit of tension in the household my dear, we had Rob, Louise and Hannah for a birthday Sunday lunch for Rob and didn't want any tension and luckily it was free of it but we have had issues like that in the past with Rob and Karen. They used to rub each other up the wrong way although they loved each other and me and Amy were usually the little piggies in the middle of things.

So glad you had a good afternoon yesterday and enjoyed the football game. We won't be putting up the decorations for another week yet but Karen is off next week so they should be up before we go and see Amy and Andy in the Rowntree Players Pantomime which Andy has co-written again.

Sending love and hugs dear friend.

Nov 27, 2017, 5:58pm Top

>67 m.belljackson: Hi Marianne! That book sounds wonderful and I've put it on my wishlist! Thank you.

>68 richardderus: Good idea, RD. I just may do that.

>69 johnsimpson: Hi John! Thanks, it was no fun. I remember all the stresses you've had with Rob and Louise. Heh heh. I'm the little piggy in the middle of things in this family! Sending love and hugs to you and Karen!

I didn't get any decorations up, but did go to the post office twice (forgot the notarized documents the first time - they had to be mailed today), two banks, thrift store to drop off books and various and sundry and get a tax receipt, the pharmacy, the library, the grocery store, and filled the tank with gas.

The grocery store has a promotion at this time of the year - buy $50 or more 6 times within a certain period (6 weeks I think, ending tomorrow) and you get $20 of your next order. I didn't realize that you had to use a special code on the 6th receipt itself (meaning you had to save it, unlike other years), so threw it away. But I explained the problem to my favorite person there today and she pushed a few buttons and the register opened and she gave me $20! I'm happy.

Nov 27, 2017, 6:33pm Top

You know The Rule, Horrible: Surprise money is book money. There are NO EXCEPTIONS. And since you weren't actually *entitled* to that twenty, not having followed the rules, it's surprise money.

So whatcha gonna buy?

Nov 28, 2017, 1:07am Top

>71 richardderus: I like the way your mind works.

>70 karenmarie: So whatcha gonna buy? :)

Nov 28, 2017, 6:37am Top

>50 karenmarie: Hi Karen, Thanks for telling me this;) I'm usually too lazy to look words up in the dictionary.
The source sounds interesting, I't's going on the wish list.

Nov 28, 2017, 7:12am Top

Hi, Karen! Have an enjoyable Tuesday!

Nov 28, 2017, 7:43am Top

Morning, Karen. I am off today. Not sure I will go on a hike or not. I may just do some chores around here. The weather continues to be mild. Let's hope it continues.

I have to throw a warble in, about Flower Moon. Another NNF gem.

Edited: Nov 28, 2017, 8:45am Top

>71 richardderus: Hallo, RD! If I was single, the rule would apply, but since I’m in a marriage and all the food bought was for both of us, the money is ‘ours’. Husband would be the first to tell me to spend it on myself, but I already do that to a shocking degree, so this has to be ‘us’ money. Sad, but there it is.

And for some strange reason thinking about husband and money made me think of Christmas and a throw-away comment he made last night about Orphan Black. He refuses to buy CDs or DVDs any more BUT he did say that because watching season 5 after a year-long hiatus was frustrating, he'd be willing to buy the entire series and watch it over from beginning to end because he likes it so much. Me, not quite so much, but it would be a labor of love to watch it with him. So I just bought it from Amazon for one of his presents.

If I was going to buy a book with the money, I’d probably get God's Secretaries: The Making of the King James Bible by Adam Nicolson, Testosterone Rex by Cordelia Fine recommended by FAMeulstee, and/or The King’s Grave by Phillipa Langley and Michael Jones recommended by tess_schoolmarm.

>72 Berly: Hi Berly! See my answer to RD above. Sigh.

>73 EllaTim: You’re welcome, Ella! I love looking stuff up. My favorite place in the house is sitting here at my desk, computer available and good reading light and chair for reading. I look things up frequently and had fun trying to remember all the books, failing, and learning something new myself.

I am seriously considering a group read of The Source next year. I love it and think that other people might too. I will have finished my year-long Bible as Literature complete reading of the Bible, so it seems timely, too. It’s pretty specialized and in some respects dated because the situation in Israel and Palestine is so volatile and frankly hasn’t changed much since the book was published in 1965, but it is a stunning, vibrant, and brilliant book IMO. Here’s what Wikipedia says about it:
The Source is a historical novel by James A. Michener, first published in 1965. It is a survey of the history of the Jewish people and the land of Israel from pre-monotheistic days to the birth of the modern State of Israel. The Source uses, for its central device, a fictional tell in northern Israel called "Makor" (Hebrew: "source"‎‎). Prosaically, the name comes from a freshwater well just north of Makor, but symbolically it stands for much more, historically and spiritually.

Unlike most Michener novels, this book is not in strict chronological order. A parallel frame story set in Israel in the 1960s supports the historical timeline. Archaeologists digging at the tell at Makor uncover artifacts from each layer, which then serve as the basis for a chapter exploring the lives of the people involved with that artifact. The book follows the story of the Family of Ur from a Stone Age family whose wife begins to believe that there is a supernatural force, which slowly leads us to the beginnings of monotheism. The descendants are not aware of the ancient antecedents revealed to the reader by the all-knowing writer as the story progresses through the Davidic kingdom, Hellenistic times, Roman times, etc. The site is continually inhabited until the end of the Crusades when it is destroyed by the victorious Mameluks (as happened to many actual cities after 1291) and is not rebuilt by the Ottomans.
I wonder if anybody would be interested in a group read?

>74 harrygbutler: Hi Harry! Today is just me and the house and Christmas decorating, reading, puttering around, and possibly setting up the Christmas present wrapping station upstairs in the Parlour. I’ve got almost every gift needed for the California package, excepting nephews' REI gift card and BiL's Olive Garden gift card which I think of as another present for my sister. I wanted to give BiL coal in his stocking, but that would cause too many hurt feelings. I want to make some Divinity for my sister’s MiL using my grandma’s recipe that she told me was HER mother's. Divinity is tricksy, and I've only ever been 50% successful at getting good batches. I need to get started on it all so that shipping costs are not horrendous. Fun stuff.

>75 msf59: Good morning, Mark! Yay for your day off. If you can be outside with mild weather then good for you.

Although I just read News of the World about Native Americans and the US in the 1870s, I’m not up for reading non-fiction right now – I did get my own copy of Empire of the Summer Moon: Quanah Parker and the Rise and Fall of the Comanches, the Most Power Indian Tribe in American History by S.C. Gwynne from my friend Jan’s husband John recently and was able to return the one borrowed from my husband’s step Aunt Ann that she insisted I keep til I read. However, I’ve added Killers of the Flower Moon: The Osage Murders and the Birth of the FBI to my yugely bloated wishlist (I keep my wishlist on Bookmooch and in a synched spreadsheet).

My, my, I'm chatty this morning! Time for a second cup of coffee and to start thinking about brekkie.

Oh, I forgot to mention that I'm still waiting for my ER copy of The Gate Keeper, the newest Ian Rutledge by Charles Todd and just received notification that I'm receiving Brain Food by Lisa Mosconi.

Nov 28, 2017, 9:16am Top

I also forgot to post:

Keith Olbermann thinks Trump will be removed from office one way or another before his term ends: Keith Olbermann The Resistance #147 I can hardly believe the fix we're in as a nation right now, but perhaps sane voices will prevail. One can only hope.

Nov 28, 2017, 9:16am Top

>76 karenmarie: - Hi Karen,
I read Michener's The Source many moons ago and loved it. I went through a phase in my teens and 20s where I read a lot of Michener and this was one of my favourites. I rarely reread so I wouldn't be joining you for a group read but I would be interested in following the discussions, should you go ahead with it.

Nov 28, 2017, 9:19am Top

The Source sounds really interesting. I will throw it on my WL but can't commit to a group read just now. Still trying to figure out how to avoid most commitments next year ;-)

Nov 28, 2017, 9:22am Top

>76 karenmarie: *ngurmph* Sounds like special pleading to me....

>77 karenmarie: *anticipatory quivering*

Nov 28, 2017, 9:29am Top

>78 jessibud2: Hi Shelley! It's funny how some people love to reread books and some don't. This year, so far, I've only re-read 5.8% of my 86 book total. I will add another, Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix before year end. It's an audiobook and I'm on the second to the last disk. Retirement has hurt my audiobook totals because I don't drive 56 miles roundtrip every day, but I'm not complaining! Retirement is wonderful.

>79 katiekrug: Hi Katie! I'll pencil your name in for next year, just in case you're interested, but completely understand trying to avoid most commitments next year. So far I've got 2 group reads I'm going to lead (Nicholas Nickelby and Foucault's Pendulum), 11 books for my RL book club (December will be book picking month), and possibly one of the Irish Authors Challenge sponsored by PaulCranswick. No year-long commitments like this year's Bible as Literature year-long group read, which I'm still on track to successfully complete, by the way.

Nov 28, 2017, 9:39am Top

In 2016, I did a year long read of the Penguin History of the World and the feeling when I finished it was most excellent. I was glad I did it but also glad it was over!

Nov 28, 2017, 10:00am Top

I'll be glad when this is over too, Katie. I'm not even Christian, but wanted to finally read the whole thing. I'll be glad I did. Some of it's been wonderful, some of it's been a slog. I'm reading 1 Corinthians right now, 8 pages a day, with it, 2 Corinthians, Galatians, and Ephesians scheduled by December 3rd.

Nov 28, 2017, 10:08am Top

Jacquielawson.com offers a really fun - for both adults and kids - online Christmas Advent Calendar for only $4.00.

My daughter and I loved the SEASIDE one last year - very interactive, entertaining, educating, and enlightening!

This year, they are also offering a new one: ALPINE.

You won't be disappointed in this investment!

Nov 28, 2017, 11:13am Top

>84 m.belljackson: Hi Marianne!

Clever idea. I've never heard of an e-mail Advent Calendar.


I received the following e-mail this morning from Harry Bingham (not personal, I know, but still....)

Yesterday, Jeff Bezos in his wisdom chose to put little Fiona Griffiths in the national spotlight, by way of a Kindle Daily Deal. Ms Griffiths excelled in the role and flew up the sales rankings as though born to it.

Now a Kindle Daily Deal, by its nature, expires after 24 hours, but our own small celebrations can continue anyway. The Deepest Grave is back at full price today, but everything else in the series is still at a yummily low price, for today only. So if you have gaps you need to fill in, or friends you need to educate, now's the moment to do it. Here's the series again:

#1, Talking to the Dead
The series opener: Fiona gets started in Major Crime. $0.99 Buy now

#2, Love Story, with Murders
Ice, snow and severed corpses. $1.99 Buy now

#3, The Strange Death of Fiona Griffiths
Fiona goes undercover. $1.99 Buy now

#4 This Thing of Darkness
Undersea cables and a remarkable climber. $1.99 Buy now

#5 The Dead House
A peaceful monastery and underground adventure. $1.99 Buy now

#6 The Deepest Grave
The ghost of Arthur stalks the hills of Wales. $4.99. No longer discounted, but you can buy now anyway

Dymuniadau gorau & hugs from Fiona

Harry Bingham
I've read the entire series and am impatiently waiting for the next one!

Nov 28, 2017, 11:21am Top

>81 karenmarie: Pencil me in on your group reads as a maybe. NN and FP are both books I have wanted to read, so if the timing is right....

I am on Book #5 with Fiona!! Trying to stretch them out. : )

Nov 28, 2017, 11:28am Top

>85 karenmarie: ...as Mme TVT du Horrible continues her streak...

*trudges wearily off to Ammy to do His Mistress's Bidding and enrich Harry Bingham*

Edited: Nov 28, 2017, 1:29pm Top

>86 Berly: You're on both lists, Berly. We'll see what makes sense next year for Nicholas Nickleby. I've got Foucault's Pendulum tentatively scheduled for March.

Yay Fiona!

>87 richardderus: You won't regret it, RD. Lots of us have been warbling about Fiona for quite a while now. Try to start with the first one if you can - I started with the second one because it's what I had on my shelves and it's not a huge problem, but they are cumulative. *smooches* from Madame TVT Horrible

Well. I wasn't going to go out today but had a mix-up in chiropractor scheduling and they could fit me in today at 11:45. Off I zoomed, got adjusted, stopped at the Habitat for Humanity Store and picked up Nostradamus: The Man Who Saw Through Time by Lee McCann. Looks interesting and I don't know enough about him or his predictions.

Nov 28, 2017, 1:56pm Top

I got the first one, Talking to the Dead, for all of 99¢, so even I could afford it.

Nov 28, 2017, 2:03pm Top

Oooh, RD, I hope you like it!!

Nov 28, 2017, 2:13pm Top

You will be the first to know either way.

*ominous stare*

Nov 28, 2017, 2:37pm Top


Just remember The Shape of Water by Andrea Camilleri, in October of 2010, which you raved and raved about and my response was 'meh'. We then agreed to disagree. ATD RD!

I think, however, that you might really like this one.


Nov 28, 2017, 3:12pm Top

Nov 28, 2017, 3:40pm Top

>93 richardderus: Heh heh.

Well, I was depressed that I was going to miss the Panthers play New Orleans this coming Sunday. However, Playmakers tickets are for the 10th, not the 3rd. I'll miss Panthers vs. Vikings on the 10th, but this game is more important.

Nov 28, 2017, 6:20pm Top

>94 karenmarie: Hi Karen, you could pencil me in for all three planned group reads. I don't want to overcommit because Paul has got me enthusiastic for the Irish and the British books as well, but I am not a fast reader.

Edited: Nov 28, 2017, 6:50pm Top

>80 richardderus: Well, RD, somehow I skipped right over this post. If husband didn’t fund my book purchases without a single whimper I’d keep it.

I love Keith Olbermann. He’s smart, articulate, and sexy.

>95 EllaTim: Hi Ella! Done, done, and done. So far there are 14 people who’ve expressed interest in Nicholas Nickleby, 6 in Foucault’s Pendulum, and 2 in The Source.

Homemade chili for dinner, yum.

Now sipping a glass of Justin Winery's 2013 Isosceles, described by Justin as Bright, nearly opaque, ruby purple core with a narrow, moderate intensity rim and slow forming slightly stained tears. Intense and complex with aromas of ripe black fruit, baking spice, sweet tobacco, leather, cocoa, oak barrel elements with subtle smoky eucalyptus accents. Dry and full-bodied with rich black cherry and blackcurrant fruit, vanilla, cinnamon and licorice spice notes on the entry. Savory, herbal and mint notes appear, followed by dark chocolate and smoky oak elements on the mid palate. The finish is very long and crisp with a complex interplay between the savory mid-palate and returning fruit of red cherry candy and sweet spice with a floral hint of violet, all framed by soft, chewy tannins. The 2013 ISOSCELES is drinking exceptionally well at release but has the structure to further develop beautifully over time.

Great with classic cab fare like rich braised short ribs or grilled leg of lamb with garlic and herbs, the 2013 ISOSCELES also drinks well on its own due to its exceptional balance of flavor and texture even when young.
Blend: 75% Cabernet Sauvignon, 16% Cabernet Franc, 9% Merlot.

I don't have the palate to taste all those things, but I sure do love it.

Nov 28, 2017, 7:41pm Top

Whew! Them's some fancy-pants words for "good grog, drink up"!

Nov 28, 2017, 8:56pm Top

Yup. It was enjoyable. One glass only, though.

My favorite winery, first discovered in about 2003 at Angus Barn. Bought 12 bottles of the Syrah at that time, joined one of Justin's wine clubs in 2015 and get 2 shipments a year, 4 red/2 white each time. Major luxury that I didn't stop even when we had money problems last year.

Nov 29, 2017, 7:07am Top

Morning, Karen. Happy Wednesday. Hooray for having a copy of Empire of the Summer Moon on shelf. O own a keeper copy of tis one. One of my favorites.

Would you consider kicking off the year with Nicholas Nickleby? Or do you all ready have a month in mind? I like starting the year with a Big Bang!

Edited: Nov 30, 2017, 9:59am Top

Hi Mark!

We certainly could, if other people would be interested. So far, here's the list of people who have expressed an interest, firm or fleeting:

EBT1002 Ellen
EllaTim Ella
ffortsa Judy
jmwelch Joe - January
lkernagh Lori - January
Luvamystery65 Roberta
m.belljackson Marianne - January or February
msf59 Mark - January for a big bang
pgmcc Peter
rosalita Julia
SomeGuyInVirginia Larry - not December
streamsong Janet
weird_o Bill

Should I start the group thread now to get input on when to schedule it or should I just solicit opinions here or privately?

Nov 29, 2017, 7:51am Top

^^That is a heck of a list. Not sure, if you should start a Group Read thread now. You'll have to start another one in the 2018 Group, right?

Maybe, just give all the updates here? These folks all visit regularly.

Nov 29, 2017, 8:27am Top

Good morning, Karen! It's going to be a warm day, and the birds are out in abundance.

Nov 29, 2017, 9:02am Top

>101 msf59: You're right, Mark. I'll hold off on the thread set up 'til next year.

I'm hosting a group read of Foucault's Pendulum in March. Any other month is fair game, although I'd prefer NOT December just because it's such a busy month.


>102 harrygbutler: Hi Harry! Warmth is good, I think all the birds from here must have gone up there, I have only seen one or two this morning.

Nov 29, 2017, 9:18am Top

December is bad for me. Although I have half the month off! Bwahahaha! God, I love vacations. I'm OK with either Nicholas N. or any other book.

Nov 29, 2017, 9:48am Top

>103 karenmarie:

January or February sound good - it's a Dickens so it may take some of us all 0f 2018!

Nov 29, 2017, 11:07am Top

>104 SomeGuyInVirginia: and >105 m.belljackson: - noted above! Thanks.

Nov 29, 2017, 11:07am Top

87. A Christmas Memory by Truman Capote
11/29/17 to 11/29/17

The description from Amazon:

First published in 1956, this much sought-after autobiographical recollection of Truman Capote's rural Alabama boyhood has become a modern-day classic. We are proud to be reprinting this warm and delicately illustrated edition of A Christmas Memory--"a tiny gem of a holiday story" (School Library Journal, starred review). Seven-year-old Buddy inaugurates the Christmas season by crying out to his cousin, Miss Sook Falk: "It's fruitcake weather!" Thus begins an unforgettable portrait of an odd but enduring friendship between two innocent souls--one young and one old--and the memories they share of beloved holiday rituals.
Why I wanted to read it: Several people on LT mentioned it as being part of their Christmas tradition.

Spare, joyous, descriptive, sweet, sad. Buddy and she or her – never mentioned by name, just a cousin. Vivid writing.
A mile more: of chastising thorns, burns and briers that catch at our clothes; of rusty pine needles brilliant with gaudy fungus and molted feathers. Here, there, a flash, a flutter, an ecstasy of shrillings remind us that not all the birds have flown south. Always the path unwinds through lemony sun pools and pitch-black fine tunnels. Another creek to cross: a disturbed armada of speckled trout froths the water around us, and frogs the size of plates practice belly flops; beaver workmen are building a dam.

Nov 29, 2017, 11:19am Top

Karen--I had to start a note on my own thread to track 2018 plans!! : )

Happy Wednesday.

Nov 29, 2017, 12:32pm Top

For y'all *gag* Nicholas Nickleby enthusiasts: Why Chuckles the Dick avoided Chicago in 1868.

Nov 29, 2017, 1:16pm Top

>108 Berly: Hi Berly! Thank you.

>109 richardderus: That is a very intereting article, RD. Supporting the abandoned wife of his brother, secretly giving an annuity to his common-law wife, but taking the heat publicly. Thanks for sharing.

Nov 29, 2017, 4:10pm Top

When, as a young 'un, I read Capote's A Christmas Memory, I knew that I could really love reading. What an amazing thing.

Edited: Nov 29, 2017, 6:42pm Top

Hi Karen. Just wanted to report that I made your sweet potato casserole (soufflé) and it turned out great. I ended up using 3 large sweet potatoes and still have some left over to have separately. So, thank you!!

Hmm, I just noticed that there is the French accent at the end of the word soufflé both times I typed that. How did that happen? I certainly didn't do anything deliberately! Cool

Nov 29, 2017, 5:31pm Top

>111 SomeGuyInVirginia: Hi Larry! It's a beautiful little story and what a wonderful way for you to come to reading.

>112 jessibud2: Hi Shelley! Yay. I'm glad it came out good. That's what I used - 3 large. Yup. When you type s-o-u-f-f-l-e it puts the accent on the e automatically.

Nov 29, 2017, 5:39pm Top

>113 karenmarie: You mean LT speaks French?! When'd that happen?

Nov 29, 2017, 6:55pm Top

>114 richardderus: Je ne sais pas, mon ami.. Wait!! I wrote that in English. *smile*

Actually, it does. You can switch languages before you log in.

Nov 29, 2017, 9:06pm Top

>100 karenmarie: - Tag me as interested in a Nicholas Nickleby group read, Karen. January works for me... like Mark, I like to start the new year off with a good chunkster read. ;-)

Nov 29, 2017, 11:58pm Top

How could I get 91 posts behind???? Anyway, I sort of caught up, and I am not ready quite to reread any of your proposed groupers even though I have loved *NN* and *Source*. Long may they remain on my shelves, but that's where they'll stay for awhile. And I also loved the TC Christmas memory - fruitcakes and kites if I remember correctly.
If we decorate here, it will be no sooner than the Saturday before Christmas (my family's traditional time) or Christmas Eve (DH's). We like our holiday short and intense, going on until 12th Night rather than the month before.....but then, we're old.

Nov 30, 2017, 5:03am Top

>116 lkernagh: Hi Lori! I've added your name and preference to the message above. Thanks for stopping by!

>117 LizzieD: Hi Peggy! It does happen, for sure. I go through phases of getting behind, too, usually with Mark or Paul. As of last evening I was caught up. I haven't looked at my starred threads yet.

Yes, fruitcakes and kites. And pennies for flies and whisky for the fruitcakes.

I've never heard of waiting 'til Christmas Eve like your DH, but even the Saturday before Christmas is a bit late for me. We usually decorate a week or two after Thanksgiving and ALWAYS take the tree down and put things away on or before January 1.

If one goes to bed about 9, one will wake up early. For some reason I was whupped yesterday and went to bed early. But I've just had my first sip of coffee, the propane heater is taking the chill off the Sunroom, and it's all good.

Nov 30, 2017, 6:36am Top

Morning, Karen. Sweet Thursday. I will have to check and see if I have A Christmas Memory on audio. I have been wanting to read that one, for a few years now.

Nov 30, 2017, 7:24am Top

Hi Mark! It's short and sweet.

Nov 30, 2017, 8:31am Top

88. The Fireside Watergate by Nicholas von Hoffman and Garry Trudeau
11/29/17 to 11/30/17

From the inside page of the dust jacket:

With myriad hearings and investigations a long way from being terminated, there remains a vast inventory of unanswered questions about the nation’s darkest scandal. In their first collaborative effort, Nicholas von Hoffman and Garry Trudeau readily embrace the mystery which is Watergate, and chronicle its unraveling in language so compelling that it cannot fail to engage even the most cynical observers.

The authors, who have available to them the entire newsgathering apparatus of The Washington Post, have refused to compromise their work by using it, preferring to draw on their own personal experiences as purveyors of honest innuendo. In so doing, they examine Watergate from a unique perspective: with their reporting typically liberated from a slavishly deferential relationship to facts, their ebullient account of the Watergate affair bears a staggering resemblance to truth.

Why I wanted to read it: With the bloviating orange gasbag, another GOP loser, ensconced in the White House, this caught my eye and I wanted to wallow in pain but hoping to get a laugh or two out of it.

This was fun. Here is the first paragraph:
America was embarking on a new political experience. The fix was in, the cabinet was dissolved and Congress had been told to go stuff it. The country was going to be run by an Emergency Counter-Intelligence Coalition government. Locked in the Oval Room, working out his problem in silence, was the boss. The Defrocked Quaker was attended by his two Christian Scientist lay readers who issued their orders to a cabala of Cuban real estate operators through intermediary layers of ex-third echelon advertising executives, young right wing lawers with shit-eating grins, superannuated spies, bagmen, goons, looters, alcoholics, inefficiency experts and fanatics of all ages.
Sound familiar?

It goes slantwise from there.

There are many Trudeau cartoons interspersed with a grand spoof-fact summary of Watergate to the time it was published in 1973. Many of the names came back to as I was reading, and with the possible exceptions of poor Martha Mitchell and poor duped John Dean, all were disgusting and stupid.

Sound familiar?

Nov 30, 2017, 8:48am Top

Good morning, Karen! We usually decorate fairly early, but it depends on how busy we are at the start of December.

Nov 30, 2017, 9:22am Top

Hi Harry! I love putting the decorations up, and am just as happy to take them down January 1!

I just set up the present wrapping station in my Retreat. Husband doesn't wrap presents, so he won't go up there, daughter will probably come home sometime just before Christmas and indulge in an orgy of present wrapping. She also usually wraps one or two for husband to me. I was also successful in keeping the kitties out of the storage space behind the closet by judicious opening and closing of doors sans kitties.

Nov 30, 2017, 9:27am Top

Hi Karen- It sounds like things are going extra well for you right now. Woot! Good for you!

I'm glad you liked A Christmas Memory. Short and sweet sums it up. Go for it, Mark! You'll be happy you did.

I haven't started decorating, but I **mean** to. :)

I took a class on making a Christmas wreath on Tuesday night. It was fun, but the result is a bit haphazard. I probably wouldn't *buy* this particular wreath, but it's not so bad that I won't hang it up outside. I need to do a bit more to it in the way of filling it out. Two hours was not quite enough time for non-crafty me to do a first wreath. I need some new Christmas traditions and perhaps this will be one.

Nov 30, 2017, 9:33am Top

Hi Janet!

They are. I'm ahead of the game for Christmas which is a HUGE relief, reading good books, and going to get my nails done tomorrow. I tried a new place 3 times, don't like the results, and she's going to soak them off (and soak me for $35, but oh well), and I'm going to go back to the smelly, loud place that does my nails the way I like them. I'm going to get a pedicure, too.

I'm impressed - Christmas wreath-making class. Non-crafty you? You sound a bit like me. Are you going to post a pic on your thread? When do you normally start decorating for Christmas? Even if we wait 'til the weekend to decorate the tree and put other things out, we're still ahead of the game.

Nov 30, 2017, 9:43am Top

>123 karenmarie: We generally leave the decorations up until Epiphany, or the closest weekend thereto. Our cats sometimes bother the wrapped presents, and they do like to "help" when someone is wrapping.

Nov 30, 2017, 9:51am Top

Good morning, Karen.

Fascinating Dickens article in >109 richardderus:. That guy who posted it must be a fan. :-)

I'd be up for a Nicholas Nickleby group read in January, too.

Nov 30, 2017, 10:03am Top

>126 harrygbutler: Sounds like a good time to take them down - sometimes I've been as late as Epiphany, but with me it's not been on purpose.

I've had kitties that climb trees and tear presents, but our two current kitties, Inara Starbuck and Kitty William, can't be bothered. Too many warm blankets, a propane stove to sit in front of, and food to eat. Now watch KW make a liar out of me this year.

>127 jnwelch: Hi Joe! I know. The article is complimentary. Who'da thunk it?

January - noted above. I sorted the list alphabetically by user name so I wouldn't get any more confused than I am.

Nov 30, 2017, 1:04pm Top

>121 karenmarie: Oh what fun to read a funny book about remembered pain, while experiencing equal agony. The country will survive, worse for the experience but still (dys)functioning.

>127 jnwelch:, >128 karenmarie: *stiff offended silence*

Nov 30, 2017, 1:37pm Top

>129 richardderus: Smoochity-smooch-smooch, darling RD! TVT Horrible

Nov 30, 2017, 1:46pm Top

>113 karenmarie: - Karen, by the way, can you freeze the soufflé/casserole? I ended up making it in 2 separate but smaller dishes as I couldn't find my larger casserole dish (how the heck does one *misplace* a casserole dish? I don't know...). I would love to be able to freeze one of them until I finish the first one

Nov 30, 2017, 2:19pm Top

I've never done that, but here's something I found on the interwebs: When a casserole has liquid, sauce, or lots of creamy, liquid ingredients, chances are you can cook it first, then freeze. Think of pot pies, lasagna and turkey tetrazzini. You could certainly try based on this. I don't know how the topping will do after having been frozen. Unless you want to eat it now, it can't hurt to try. If it doesn't work, then next time, and if you can't find your larger casserole, just freeze the potato part and put topping on after defrosting and just before baking. Good luck!

I can't imagine losing your larger casserole dish. Did you take food in it anywhere and not get it back? Is it already in the freezer? Did someone else put it in the wrong cabinet?

My new coffeemaker arrived and I'm impatiently waiting for the water in the reservoir to heat up. Gotta try it, right?

Nov 30, 2017, 2:22pm Top

>130 karenmarie: *moderate dfrosting*

>131 jessibud2: Egg whites and souffles do not freeze. The results are bad. Unless, of course, you have access to a flash-freezing unit like the commercial folks have, in which case I'll be over shortly to freeze some fresh veggies.

Nov 30, 2017, 2:50pm Top

> 133 - This *soufflé* was not really a soufflé in that sense as it used the entire eggs, not just the whites. It was really more of a casserole. And no, sorry, no such fancy-doodle appliances in this kitchen!

>132 karenmarie: - Your ideas make sense, Karen, thanks. I will try that. And honestly, I have no idea. I have to look again. I don't cook or bake enough to have made something to take anywhere so it has to be around here somewhere. And my house isn't so big that something like that could just get *lost*. Sheesh. I used a round pyrex pie dish and a smaller ceramic loaf pan so it all worked out but this is just bugging me.

Edited: Nov 30, 2017, 2:56pm Top

>133 richardderus: *smoochies* for the dfrosting. Even if it's only moderate.

Souffle is a deceptive term for this recipe. It's really just cooked sweet potatoes, sugar, eggs, cinnamon, salt, and vanilla with a streusel topping that's then baked. It doesn't rise like a soufflé and I don't know why my husband's MiL's mother called it that. And after looking up the definition of a soufflé, I'm hungry because of the examples I saw.

Very strange. When the word soufflé is not capitalized, it puts the accent on the e. When Souffle is capitalized, it doesn't. Absolutely crazy making. soufflé, Souffle, soufflé, Souffle.

>134 jessibud2: Yup. Casserole.

I just found my muffin tins the other day - I forgot that last Christmas (and every Christmas, really) daughter gets a big bowl of circulated coins and coin-collector coins (mostly US wheat-ear pennies) and she uses the muffin tins to sort them out. Last year she had to rush back to Wilmington, apparently took them upstairs, and they were in her closet, last year's Christmas coins still in them. We just bought her new Christmas coins, and I'm going to the bank next week to get the circulated coins.....

It doesn't make sense for her to take any portion of her coin collection to her apartment in Wilmington because she has no room and it wouldn't do if any of it got stolen.

Nov 30, 2017, 2:59pm Top

>135 karenmarie: and you'll notice that pluralized form gets no accent grave either: souffles

Crazy-making. *very polite smooch*

>134 jessibud2: I hope it unfreezes well and please let us know. I've always avoided freezing things with eggs used to lighten not enrich the thing they're in...if I can, I might.

Nov 30, 2017, 2:59pm Top

>135 karenmarie: - Very strange. When the word soufflé is not capitalized, it puts the accent on the e. When Souffle is capitalized, it doesn't. Absolutely crazy making. soufflé, Souffle, soufflé, Souffle.

LOL! As I have said before - many times - I will never understand technology. ;-)

Edited: Nov 30, 2017, 3:08pm Top

>136 richardderus: - Will do.

By the way, I think accent grave goes the other way, toward the upper left. I think this one is called accent ___ (I know how to say it, have no idea how to spell it. It sounds like accent ay-gue). But it's been many many moons since I studied French grammar in any way, shape or form so don't take my word for it.

Edited to add that, while I may be technologically challenged, I do know how to google. Here we go. My French teachers would be proud (or perhaps, just amazed) that some memory cells remain intact. As I am. Pity that talent doesn't work for finding lost casserole dishes:


Edited: Nov 30, 2017, 3:05pm Top

And the new coffeemaker makes good coffee, doesn't leak water, AND doesn't trip the circuit breaker. The tripping of the circuit breaker happened on Thanksgiving, of course, so husband jury rigged an extension cord into the dining room. Couldn't go through to the dining room because he used a short extension cord..... but it's a moot point now.

It's on a place mat so I can easily scooch it out further on the counter to actually make coffee and push it back in when brewing/brewed or not in use.

Nov 30, 2017, 3:27pm Top

>138 jessibud2: Your google-fu is fine, now we need to work on that casserole-dish-locating spell.

>139 karenmarie: *aaahhh* That's the stuff. Coffee in the pot, books on the shelf, spouse at the office = perfect day!

Nov 30, 2017, 3:34pm Top

>136 richardderus: *air kiss on each cheek*

>137 jessibud2: At first I thought that it was accentless at the beginning of a sentence, but after testing, I realized that it was if capitalized.

>138 jessibud2: The accent aigu ´. Having never studied French, I didn't even realize that there were 4 accents for vowels and one for the consonant C but never if the C is in front of an E or an I, when it automatically gets the S sound. I like Spanish better.

Nov 30, 2017, 3:52pm Top

>141 karenmarie: - What's so weird is that I remembered all those accents, their names and when to use them. Pity I never felt confident enough to speak the language comfortably. And I grew up in Montreal, where it was part of our curriculum. But they taught us all wrong. They taught the grammar before conversation. A child learns conversation for 6 years before grammar rules kick in. I was learning French verb conjugation before I knew what conjugation meant. Having learned another language the *right way* (conversationally) and having taught English as a second language, I know this now. They certainly didn't, when I was in primary school, being taught French. But damn, I know those accents! :-)

Nov 30, 2017, 3:53pm Top

>140 richardderus: - Yes, sir!

Nov 30, 2017, 3:55pm Top

>140 richardderus: I hate Google and refuse to use it except for Translate. I now use duckduckgo.

Coffee in the pot, books on the shelf, spouse at the office = perfect day! You know me pretty well.....

Nov 30, 2017, 3:58pm Top

>143 jessibud2: :-P

>144 karenmarie: Well, I *ought* to after ten years.

Nov 30, 2017, 5:15pm Top

>139 karenmarie: Do you have a special mug? Or is that more an office thing? I have my own mug here, but I only get to use it once per wash cycle since I don't hand wash it and leave it on my desk. And I'm not going to put it in the cabinet because I'd hate to have to waste some clown who'd dare to take my mug.

What brand of coffee do you drink? You can probably get some good stuff locally. Have you had Peet's coffee? Prolly my favorite store bought. No! My favorite is Mayorga brand Cubano. It's also local.

When I first moved on the Hill, there was a coffee shop that roasted it's own coffee at night. Blocks of DC smelled like coffee, it was sweet.

Nov 30, 2017, 6:04pm Top

>142 jessibud2: I used to speak Spanish fluently, but only in class. I took Spanish from grades 6 – 12 with a total of 3 different teachers. I can still remember silly songs from 6th grade and the conversation module for the first lesson in 8th grade. It is amazing how many brain cells we’ve got tied up in things that aren’t currently helpful!

>143 jessibud2: Being married to a 6-year Navy man, I’d say “Aye-aye, sir!”

>145 richardderus: It has been 10 years, hasn’t it? You joined LT a year before I did and we connected pretty quickly, as I recall.

>146 SomeGuyInVirginia: I have 4 mugs I rotate among, depending on the dishwasher cycle. And if they’re all in the dishwasher I have a couple of backups. I used to have 3 at work. One growing mold, one cleaned out, and one in use. (I know, I know, gross.) Only one? I’d do damage to someone who took my coffee mug at work, too.

I am currently using whole bean Costco Medium Roast, roasted by Starbucks, $9.99 for two pounds. I used to use Gevalia decaf whole bean until the jerks stopped offering it and I don’t like to use already ground coffee, caf or decaf. It took a while to find the right alternative, and I am back using caffeinated. I don’t like Costco’s whole bean decaf. Gotta be whole bean, as I grind it right before brewing the pot. I have a lovely coffee grinder on the counter. Flip the switch on, grind, grind, grind, flip the switch off, freshly ground coffee.

I have had Peet’s coffee. Good, but at the time I was buying Gevalia and thought Gevalia superior. Of course now Gevalia is selling half pounds in grocery stores, for God’s sake, so question the quality. I still have a lovely 2 Tablespoon metal measure from Peet’s that I use all the time for all sorts of baking and other cooking requirements.

Ooh, freshly roasted coffee. Even though my daughter doesn't drink coffee, she loves the smell of fresh beans and freshly ground coffee.

Nov 30, 2017, 6:22pm Top

Dec 1, 2017, 7:01am Top

Morning, Karen. Happy Friday! Another mild one here. Keep 'em coming.

Dec 1, 2017, 7:31am Top

Karen, RD - I found it! The elusive casserole dish. Geez. And the worst part is, it was not where I thought it would be but it was somewhere I HAD looked, just didn't *see* it. I guess if you don't expect to see something in a place, it's easy to miss. Yeah, right. It was bugging me all day and I couldn't let it go. I kept going over the same territory, and it isn't like my kitchen is big; it most certainly is not. Anyhow, problem solved. (until the next one, I guess) ;-p

Dec 1, 2017, 7:57am Top

>149 msf59: Hi Mark! Mild means less heating expense and an easier day for you, so yay! We're at 47F now and will get to about 64F, so we're quite warm, too.

>150 jessibud2: Congrats, Shelley! It's like people - if I see someone in a place I'm not used to seeing them, I frequently don't recognize them.

Dec 1, 2017, 8:17am Top

>151 karenmarie: - LOL! That reminds me of a story from high school. We had a very stern science teacher, never smiled, was a bit of a grump, truth be told. One day, my friend and I saw him in the mall on a Saturday, wearing flip-flops and cut-off shorts, with his girlfriend (who happened to be another teacher in the school). The two of us hid inside a store and just stared and giggled!

And years later, when I was a teacher, I saw a student of mine in the mall with his parents. His parents and I stopped to chat and the kid hid behind the mum and just stared. What the heck was I doing in his mall??? :-)

Dec 1, 2017, 4:04pm Top

Hi, Karen! Congrats on the new coffeemaker. It looks like a good one. I much prefer perked coffee myself, so I have a shiny aluminum percolator on the counter. I tend to use the same mug all day, but sometimes a second one for the pot I usually have after supper and through the evening. My mugs of choice are Hull mirror brown coffee mugs, which have thick walls to keep the coffee hot (such as the ones shown here: http://www.laurelleaffarm.com/item-pages/china-and-glassware/brown-drip/vintage-...).

Dec 1, 2017, 4:15pm Top

I just put up the fakakta office Christmas tree. No wonder Grandmother drank.

Can you believe this gorgeous weather? Wowzer!

Dec 1, 2017, 4:45pm Top

Quivering with delight over the latest Flynn news. Dinner will taste so much better knowing Jared's in the spotlight...I suspect he'll roll on 45 with a slight push.

Edited: Dec 2, 2017, 5:56am Top

>152 jessibud2: It’s bizarre thinking of your teachers having real lives and romance, isn’t it? And that poor kid having to hide because his teacher wasn’t where she was supposed to be!

>153 harrygbutler: Thanks, Harry. My Mom and Dad had a stove top percolator for years and years. One time Dad bought Mom a vacuum brewer similar to this one on Amazon: Vacuum Brewer. She hated it.

Beautiful mugs.

>154 SomeGuyInVirginia: Oh frabjous day! The office Christmas tree is up. And fakakta? I have never heard that word before and love it. Poor Grandmother.

We have a live real tree, currently lighted but ornamentless. Husband just got home from work and said we should decorate tomorrow – I was going to suggest it too, but after he’d had a chance to relax after the commute.

>155 richardderus: Delish, isn’t it? But only one count. However, that may mean he got a deal and is singing. And on Morning Joe today they were talking about Trump’s attempts to obstruct justice last summer. This is from Salon: Trump contacted senior members of the Republican Party within the Senate to insist that they end the Russia investigation as quickly as possible, according to The New York Times. This included Senator Richard Burr of North Carolina, who chairs the Senate Intelligence Committee; Senator Roy Blunt of Missouri, who is a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee; and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky.

I was busy today - did a lot of good reading for the Bible as Literature group read (of which there are precisely two other people in addition to me actually participating, and one is only reading the OT now instead of the whole Bible and the original group creator bailed in February. *grumble*) But I am stubborn and committed and on schedule. (I have 2 days to read Ephesians).

I deposited a $10K check for the Friends from a grant, got my old nail stuff taken off and then drove over to my old nail place to get gel nails put back on and a pedicure. I then went to the eye doctor to pick up my prescription bifocals (computer and close up only). They ended up being free - I guess they counted the deductible from when I had my eye exam and didn't charge me another one. Black frames, pretty much like my cheaters but bigger. Then home. Daughter called about 45 minutes or so after I got home and we talked for an hour, then 15 minutes to putter then husband came home. Having woken up at 2:30 this morning (no idea why), I'm whupped.

Dec 1, 2017, 5:44pm Top

Gadzooks! Dinner and then beddy-bye is what that sounds like to me.

Dec 1, 2017, 5:56pm Top

Dinner, probably one Orphan Black then you're right, beddy-bye. Muscle relaxant, too, I think.

Dec 1, 2017, 6:03pm Top

Nighty-night, Horrible. Dream golden dreams.

Dec 1, 2017, 9:58pm Top

>156 karenmarie: - Sounds like a fabulously busy Friday, Karen! Wishing you a wonderful weekend.

Dec 1, 2017, 10:54pm Top

Callooh! Callay! I'd love to have a real Christmas tree but I'm afraid Parker would eat it. He's really bad about chewing on wires and I saw National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation so I know what will happen!

Maybe not, he didn't chew on Dad's tree last year.

Have a wonderful Saturday, Karen.

Dec 2, 2017, 12:40am Top

We have not had a real Christmas tree in some year, Karen. Space is at a premium in a townhouse, at least for us. We do have a small table top tree and other decorations . Good enough for me. Plus, our dog , Poppy, would soon be chewing on any tree in the house. When the kids lived at home, we always had a tree, but I don't really miss it.

Edited: Dec 2, 2017, 6:06am Top

I said the wrong thing above – we don’t have a live tree, but we have a real tree.

>159 richardderus: Good morning, RD! I yawned my way through one Orphan Black, went to bed about 9 and just got up. First cup of coffee is coursing its way through me.

>160 lkernagh: It was, Lori. I got a lot of good things done. Thank you.

>161 SomeGuyInVirginia: Hi Larry! Agree, Christmas tree light chewing would be bad for him. There are battery operated Christmas lights so there wouldn’t be a cord going from tree to wall, but would he actually climb the tree to chew the wire? I have had cats who are hell on the trees, but not these two, bless their tiny furry hearts.

Today will be errands, Christmas decorating, reading, possibly some present wrapping, and whatever. Tomorrow will be Panthers vs Saints at 1 p.m. then Book Club at 7 p.m. to discuss News of the World.

>162 vancouverdeb: Hi Deborah. I haven’t gotten to the point of missing a tree yet, but it does take a lot of effort to get the thing done! I’ve had a real Christmas tree every year I’ve been on my own and married. I also have to take 31 Lladro Christmas Bells out of their boxes and put them on the hutch in the dining room. 32 if I get the 2017 bell from Husband. I had the first 5 and he took over getting them for me as Christmas presents when we got married. I think they've also just about doubled in cost since 1987, the first year. It's the only other thing besides books that I collect.

Dec 2, 2017, 6:32am Top

Morning, Karen. Happy Saturday. I can't believe we are in December all ready. May the winter go quickly.

Dec 2, 2017, 6:46am Top

Hi Mark!

And only 30 days, including today, to get 10 more books read to hit my 100-book goal for the year. Short books, here I come! I think I'd rather hit the book goal and miss the number of pages read goal than the other way around.

Dec 2, 2017, 6:59am Top

Hi Karen. I just read your post to me in my thread about you also getting that *duplicate posing* thing and replied with this but in case you don't see it:

Karen, please post the issue that just happened over on this thread I opened yesterday. Someone else is also having the problem and the powers that be are on it. Or at least, aware:


Edited: Dec 2, 2017, 7:17am Top

Done, and thread starred to keep following, Shelley.

Dec 2, 2017, 7:46am Top

Okay, so I have entirely too much time on my hands right now and haven't wanted to start reading yet. So what does an enquiring mind do? Take pictures of ladybugs landing on keyboards and extol the virtues of my new Pour-O-Matic Drip-Free Carafe. The strange-looking spout actually works. My old Bunn was made in 2010 and they only introduced this new carafe in 2014. I'm happy.


Dec 2, 2017, 11:46am Top

>168 karenmarie: Pretty little bug, and *lovely* new coffeemaker.

*smooch* happy weekend!

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Oh, I'm sorry that Orphan Black was a yawner for you, Karen. We LOVED it, and I've been surprised more 75ers haven't, too. Tatiana Maslany is so amazing, and we also loved the rest of the cast.

Dec 2, 2017, 1:55pm Top

>169 richardderus: The pour spout actually works. Thanks, RD!

>170 jnwelch: I like the series except for what I call the "blue cheese" - disgusting medical stuff - but I was so tired the other night that I would have yawned through Poldark or Outlander. Blue cheese gets its negative connotations for me for two reasons: (1) I hate the actual cheese and (2) I think it was one of the Star Trek episodes where one of the characters had blue veins all over her/his skin after some strangeness. All I have to do is say "ick - blue cheese" for husband to know I've got my eyes closed and he is required to tell me what's going on and tell me when it's safe to look again. Most recent blue cheese is the Rachel Duncan spoiler from season 5: When she realizes she's being spied on by the implanted eye and gouges it out with the stem of a wine glass. I stopped looking when she broke the wine glass and looked intently at the sharp end of the stem.

I bought husband the blu-ray series for Christmas since he said 2 weeks ago he doesn't want any CDs or DVDs but said just the other night he'd like to watch the whole thing through again. Tatiana Maslany is wonderful. She's a brilliant actor and I frequently forget that it's the same person playing the 8 clones I can think of offhand. We loved watching After the Black, too. I'll be happy to watch it with husband again, probably in early to mid-spring, always remembering that there's an awfully lot of blue cheese.

Dec 2, 2017, 4:59pm Top

>163 karenmarie:

It's welcome to read that your tree is real, not live.

Many years ago, my daughter and I joined her Montessori day care center trip to cut trees for Christmas.

We chopped down a small one and were unaccountably (at that time) sad instead of happy with the others.

Later it came to me that this was a very odd way to honor the birth of Jesus - cutting down forests of beautiful living trees.
(My daughter was sad for our little tree and we never cut down another one.)

I applaud those companies selling only potted Christmas trees for replanting!

Dec 2, 2017, 6:39pm Top

I always thought it was a little sad to use a live tree, too. Although, if I buy one this year I'll get a live tree. Living in an apartment, I don't have room to store a fake tree. What really upsets me is to see trees by the curb waiting for the garbage man in January.

Plus, one year I saw a ton of pine needles by the elevator in March. Someone must have had their tree in their apartment that long. Some people...

I always save a cutting from the Christmas tree for luck, which is one more thing people are going to wonder about if I ever get creamed by a truck and my friends have to empty my apartment out.

Dec 3, 2017, 2:14am Top

I don't think I've been clear. At first I wrote that I have a live tree. I do not. A live tree has a root ball and is typically not very large because a large one would require a huge root ball. I have a cut real tree. I left the word 'live' in above struck out and edited in 'real'.

>172 m.belljackson: Hi Marianne! I spent some time looking up the traditions behind Christmas trees. It's fascinating. The main points are that the trees were cut not brought in live and related to either pre-Christian rites or to the representation of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

>173 SomeGuyInVirginia: Hi Larry! I used to see all the Christmas trees by the curbside when I was growing up. Brown, brittle, some with tinsel.

I've never heard of saving a cutting from the Christmas tree for luck.

I have quite a few things in our house that whoever is going to clean the house out will wonder about - husband, daughter, or stranger. I really need to start a systematic cleaning out of things in the new year.

Dec 3, 2017, 4:41am Top

89. The Secret Teachings of Jesus by Marvin W. Meyer
11/30/17 to 12/3/17

From Amazon:

In December 1945, two Egyptian fellahin, digging for natural fertilizer in the Nile River valley unearthed a sealed storage jar. The jar proved to hold treasure of an unexpected sort: a collection of some fifty-two ancient manuscripts, most of which reflect the teachings of a mystical religious movement we call Gnosticism (from the Greek word gnosis, "knowledge"). The texts are also, with few exceptions, Christian documents, and thus they provide us with valuable new information about the character of the early church, and about the Gnostic Christians within the church.

In this volume, Marvin W. Meyer has produced a new English translation for general readers of four of the most important and revealing of these early Christian texts -- the Secret Book of James, the Gospel of Thomas, the Book of Thomas, and the Secret Book of John.

Why I wanted to read it: Short and sweet for my 100-book goal and to enhance my year-long Bible as Literature reading of the Bible.

This book is disturbing because it brings into focus for me what I consider to be the emotional, political, and religious questions for why some books were included in the Bible and some weren’t.

These books are vastly different from what is in the New Testament, and The Secret Book of John is a cosmological expansion of heaven and hell by many factors of 10. In fact, the implications of the Secret Book of John are that the unknowable as described in the Bible is overly simplified and the female implications and aspects of God were suppressed. It is much more mystical and mentions many layers and beings never ever mentioned in the Bible.

No answers, here, I am afraid, just more questions.

Dec 3, 2017, 4:46am Top

Wishing you a wonderful Sunday, dear lady.

Dec 3, 2017, 4:54am Top

Thank you, Paul! I am in full-tilt insomnia mode for some reason, having been up since about 1:30 a.m. our time - over 3 hours now with no signs of tiring in the right way for sleep. My eyes need to get a bit more gritty and then I'll put head to pillow and try again.

Dec 3, 2017, 7:40am Top

Hi Karen, hope you slept well!

>175 karenmarie: Interesting. I've heard mention of these texts, but never read them.

We live in a small apartment, so we either buy a small tree, or we 'make' one ourselves. We have a large conifer in the allotment garden (much too big, as far as I'm concerned) where we replanted an old Christmas tree. We cut boughs from that, and bind them in a tree shape, that we hang on the wall. Works fine for me.

Dec 3, 2017, 9:39am Top

Hi Ella!

I slept well, although daughter unintentionally woke me up. Normally I'm awake by 8:45, but oh well. We'll see if a nap is in the picture for this afternoon.

Your wall tree sounds lovely. I've had small trees when in small apartments, and they work just well as a larger one and are much easier to cart around and then dispose of.

Dec 3, 2017, 10:01am Top

Morning, Karen. Happy Sunday. I slept in late today, which is rare for me but we got home very late, which is also unusual for us.

Another gorgeous day here. WE HAVE to hang the outside Christmas lights but at least my son will be doing the hardest part, while I supervise. Grins...

Good luck with those last ten books. You can do it!

Dec 3, 2017, 10:07am Top

Hi Mark! Thanks for the encouragement.

We normally put up some outside lights, but husband fell last Sunday and is still limping around. No outside lights for us this year :( but I think I'll dig out a huge artificial wreath inherited from in-laws and put it out. Supervision is good. Young strong children are good to have this time of year - daughter brought down all the decorating boxes when she was home last weekend.

Dec 3, 2017, 11:15am Top

>175 karenmarie: In fact, the implications of the Secret Book of John are that the unknowable as described in the Bible is overly simplified and the female implications and aspects of God were suppressed.

That makes me want to read the book. You, Mme TVT du Horrible, are earning your sobriquet all too often this year.

Dec 3, 2017, 11:44am Top

>171 karenmarie: Oh wow, we didn't know about After the Black, Karen. My superfan wife is going to go nuts when I tell her!

Yes, Rachel's eye was a major ick factor twice, wasn't it - the first time when Sarah pencilled it out! It took a while for us to realize she was being surveilled through the implant. The wine glass shard removal was a definite hands-over-the-eyes or look away moment.

P.S. I still can't believe that's not Felix's real accent!

Have you tried Stranger Things? We just finished the second season, and loved both. It had a "Beyond Stranger Things" feature that was terrific, too, with the cast and crew. I'm guessing "After the Black" is similar.

Dec 3, 2017, 12:06pm Top

<182> Just doing my job, RD, just doing my job..... *smooch*

Here's a teensy bit to whet your appetite:
Chapter 3:1 "For the Perfect One beholds itself in the light surrounding it. This is the spring of the water of life
Chapter 3:2 that gives forth all the worlds of every kind. The Perfect One gazes upon its image, sees it in the spring of the spirit, and falls in love with the luminous water. This is the spring of pure, luminous water surrounding the Perfect One.
Chapter 3:3 "Its Thought became active, and she who appeared in the presence of the Father in shining light came
Chapter 3:4 forth. She is the first power: she preceded everything, and came forth from the Father's mind as the Fore
Chapter 3:5 thought of all. Her light resembles the Father's light; as the perfect power, she is the image of the perfect
Chapter 3:6 and invisible virgin Spirit. She is
the first power,
the glory,
Barbelo, (not a typo)
the perfect glory among the worlds,
the emerging glory.
Chapter 3:7 She glorified and praised the virgin Spirit, for she had come forth through the Spirit.
Chapter 3:8 "She is the first Thought, the image of the Spirit. She became the universal womb, for she precedes everything,
the common Parent,
the first Humanity,
the Holy Spirit,
the triple male,
the triple power,
the androgynous one with three names
the eternal realm among the invisible beings,
the first to come forth.
>183 jnwelch: Hi Joe! Lots of ick stuff, definitely. Glad to be of service re After the Black. There were appearances by cast members and discussions of plot points. No spoilers, as it was done episode by episode for I forget whether it's one or more seasons. A lot of gushing fan-girly stuff, but even husband liked it well enough to put up with that.

Haven't seen Stranger Things. I just mentioned it to husband, who will check it out for us. Thanks!

Dec 3, 2017, 2:27pm Top

>184 karenmarie: ...damnedest thing...can't see the...what? Huh. No idea what was in that post.


Dec 3, 2017, 3:02pm Top

>185 richardderus: What? Huh? *smile*

I took this picture yesterday of Miss Inara Starbuck shamelessly showing her belly as she sucked up most of the heat being generated by the propane stove.

Dec 3, 2017, 3:18pm Top



dno rilly it's adorable :)

Dec 3, 2017, 3:32pm Top

Happy Sunday Karen my dear, hope all is well with you and Bill, we have been busy putting up the Christmas decorations although the tree will be put up tomorrow now.

Dec 3, 2017, 3:58pm Top

>187 richardderus: I know, RD, they're evil, but ya gotta admit that it's a cute pose. Bless you.

>188 johnsimpson: Hi John! Yup, we're doing well. We finished decorating yesterday, including the tree, so THAT's done and can be enjoyed 'til January 1 now. Have fun putting up the tree. Sending love and hugs to you and Karen.

Dec 3, 2017, 9:20pm Top

Ms Starbuck is a hoot!

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>190 sibyx: Hi Lucy! She is at that. She's crouched by my chair right now, patiently waiting for my husband to get up. He comes out of the bedroom at precisely 6:30, turns on the TV, gets himself something to drink and his morning medicines, then sits down. Inara gets treats if she goes over to him then. She's got him well trained.

Dec 4, 2017, 6:37am Top

>186 karenmarie: Go Miss Inara Starbuck! Looks quite comfortable.

Morning, Karen. Last of the warm days here. I better enjoy it.

Dec 4, 2017, 6:46am Top

Good morning, Mark! Last of the warm days, for sure! A 30 degree drop between today and tomorrow for you, I see. Brrr!

From Tuesday to Wednesday the high will drop 15 degrees here in central NC. Not as dramatic for sure.

Dec 4, 2017, 9:39am Top

Same here. Wednesday on should be more seasonal Christmas weather. Whoo-hoo!

Dec 4, 2017, 9:54am Top

Good morning, Karen! Wednesday is supposed to be our last day of warmer weather, so I'll probably try to do any outside decorating in the next day or two. I'm not sure just what that will be; some years there are lights, some years just static decor. We do still need to get a wreath for the door.

Dec 4, 2017, 10:02am Top

>194 SomeGuyInVirginia: Hi Larry! Yay to seasonal Christmas weather.

>195 harrygbutler: Good morning, Harry. Have fun decorating and deciding!

I keep putting out less and less and this year with husband hurting his knee last Sunday we won't have any outside lights. :(

We did get a wreath but put it inside on the breakfast room wall. It replaces a mirror that is up other times of the year, and we get to see it when we're in the kitchen and breakfast room.

Dec 4, 2017, 11:54am Top

Beautiful wreath -- I like your idea of putting it where you can see it regularly.

Dec 4, 2017, 1:05pm Top

Thank you, Reba!

Dec 4, 2017, 2:16pm Top

I need to pick up a wreath, too. I'm out of town for two weeks, but I still want to put up something, at least.

I've decided to aim for a 17% reduction in books, about 700 volumes, over the next few months. Gah!

Dec 4, 2017, 4:33pm Top

Hi Larry! Wreaths are fun. I just spent about an hour pulling the huge artificial wreath out of the garage, untangling all the lights, putting the branches that had pulled out back in, taking it outside, getting the electrical stuff ready, put the lights back on properly, and realized that I can't find the hanger for it. I'll have to get one tomorrow.

Plus I screwed up the divinity recipe by putting in 1 cup of Karo syrup instead of 1/2 cup and it didn't set up. Blech.

What has prompted the reduction? And why 700? Is seven your lucky number? *smile*

Dec 4, 2017, 5:22pm Top

What is divinity? It sounds...divine! Bwahahaha!

ok, whatever.

I want to go down 1 bookcase. Eventually I'd like to get a tee-bee, and it will go where the newest bookcase is now. Plus, I have that hoarder's remorse thing going on. It struck me that I'll be moving in a year or two, and do I really want to pack up all these damn books? No!

Dec 4, 2017, 6:32pm Top

Divinity is divine. I'm going to try again tomorrow. Sigh. If it fails this time I'll get my sister's MiL some nuts instead.

Makes sense, getting rid of a book case and 700 books. (not). I'm a book hoarder although I have culled 189 so far this year. I can't imagine moving books, so will figure it out later. *smile*

Husband found the hanger. So now we have an outside artificial wreath and the lovely smelling inside wreath with angels.

Dec 4, 2017, 8:50pm Top

>200 karenmarie: Good luck finding a wreath hanger. Our old plastic one came out of the box broken and it took me a week and 5 stores to finally find one today!

Dec 5, 2017, 3:55am Top

Miss Inara Starbuck looks very comfy! Poppy got a " hot spot" on her front leg last week and we've been busy putting ointment on the area twice a day, plus giving her antibiotics twice a day, plus some sort of " anti itch" pill. She is not too pleased with the situation. She has had to wear a inflatable collar so she cannot gnaw at her leg while it heals. We do take it off for her walks 3 -4 times a day. This is the first time Dave and I have encountered a " hot spot' with her, so it is new territory for us. The vet said it could be from many causes - an food or airborne allergy, or just a one of those things where she might have scraped her leg and then started licking / chewing at it. Fingers crossed that the cone can soon come off and it will all be good to go.

Poppy is about as cooperative with it all as cat might be. She is pretty good about the pills as they are small and can be hidden in deli meat, but she hates the ointment, even if it is soothing. Dogs sometimes. Hope things are going okay in your corner!

Dec 5, 2017, 4:07am Top

>203 RebaRelishesReading: Hi Reba. Fortunately husband found ours. It was on a table in our bedroom. It says a lot for how often I don't clean that area of the bedroom that it's been sitting there for a year, ever since we got the house painted and it got brought inside. It's normally always on the door so we won't lose it.

>204 vancouverdeb: Hi Deborah! She loves the heat for sure. Ah, hot spots. My Doberman Jet had one. The vet said it was probably stress in Jet's case. I hope Poppy heals quickly and it doesn't become a habit. Poor thing! The cone of shame.

Things are okay over here. Husband does have some minor health issues that he's milking (dental work, bad left knee that he keeps falling and reinjuring, insomnia. Not all men whine, but he tends to. Irritating but lovable. *smile* He goes for his quarterly doctor's visit in a week or so and I will remind him to bring all these things up, especially the insomnia. He should be able to get an effective and safe sleeping pill and stop using the over-the-counter crap he's been using.

I have started my Christmas letter, have set up my Christmas present wrapping station in the Retreat, and am therefore ahead of the Christmas game. Other things are going pretty well, too, although my sister has kidney stones that presented 3 weeks ago but still haven't passed. She's in low-level chronic pain with them right now and I'm worried about her. She gets no support at home.

I've now read 90 books this year, have 4 more on the go, or 5 if you include one I really need to finish that I started last year. That leaves 5-6 to start and finish before year end to hit my 100-book goal.

Dec 5, 2017, 5:43am Top

91. Out of the Blackout by Robert Bernard
12/3/17 to 12/5/17

From Amazon:

With the Nazis bombing London on a nightly basis, many families sent their children to the comparative safety of the countryside. When the Blitz ended, the families came for their kids, but no one ever came for Simon Thorn. His name appears on no evacuation list, and none of his belongings offer any clues to his origins. Now an adult, Simon is puzzled by an odd sense of familiarity when he walks down certain London streets. He remembers years of screaming nightmares that would terrify his bewildered foster parents. And he resolves to find out where he originally came from, even as everything he uncovers suggests that, really, he doesn't want to know

Why I wanted to read it: Short and sweet for my 100-book goal and it was on an eye-level shelf. *smile*

This is well-written little book, full of vivid characters. Simon is raised in the country by the Cutheridges, but finds out after an accidental discovery of familiarity with a place who his birth family is/was. Interestingly, the birth family is much more vividly portrayed than his loving adoptive family. The novel starts in 1941 and ends in the early 1980s, a meandering, peaceful journey for Simon of university, a wife, children, a good job. The events in the past are full of violence, war, bombings, deception, hate, and indifference but Simon’s discovery of his past is mostly peaceful, as was his childhood with the Cutheridges. It ends satisfactorily, and Simon continues his life knowing the truth and knowing that it doesn’t particularly matter anymore.

Dec 5, 2017, 6:33am Top

Morning, Karen. Gusty winds over night, chasing our mild weather away. I will throw an extra layer on today, as the temps drop through the day.

I am enjoying The Last Ballad. You are a fan of Cash, right?

Dec 5, 2017, 8:18am Top

Good morning, Karen! Your goal of 100 certainly seems achievable at this point. I think I'll be falling short of last year's total by about 75 books, with my count down thanks in part to simply reading less, and in part to collections of essays where I didn't read all and to magazines, which I don't include as books.

Dec 5, 2017, 8:27am Top

>207 msf59: HI Mark! It's supposed to start getting colder here this week, too, and even though it probably will not materialize, they are calling for the possibility of flurries on Friday.

I've seen buzz here on the 75 group threads, but haven't heard of Cash or read any of his books. So far, that is.

>208 harrygbutler: Hi Harry! You're still reading a lot, which is all to the good. I don't read magazines any more, and you're like me - if you don't finish a book it doesn't count.

Edited: Dec 5, 2017, 9:47am Top

>209 karenmarie: I've always had hobby magazines of various sorts, and have picked up occarional reprints of pulp magazines or collections of magazine stories, but starting a little over a year ago I tried out some recent magazines that promised new stories in the pulp vein or inspired by the pulps. That led to the big purchase of actual pulps in November, and one a week of those does take up some time. I'll be interested to see whether my interest in the newer magazines, which are in general not so well edited or proofread, will persist.

Dec 5, 2017, 2:39pm Top

>206 karenmarie: I read Blackout years ago and feel the same way about it- nice but not great. I do have a lot of his books though...maybe part of the jet?

Nine books to go! Fingers crossed.

Dec 5, 2017, 3:49pm Top

Hi Karen my dear, looks like you are on for reaching 100 books for the year and I am sure you will do it. I think I will end up somewhere between 85 to 90, so not a bad year, I get a few magazines each month but have cut one down for next year and may cut another one. I like my Cricket magazine and keep them as they are collectable in Cricket circles and I do get a couple of art magazines but I haven't drawn or painted for a while which I hope to remedy in 2018. A few years ago when Borders bookstore was around I had three that I visited and always went to the magazine selection before going on to the book shelves, I used to pick up one or two American art magazines and I really miss them since Borders closed down as well as missing Borders for the books.

Hope you are having a good week so far dear friend and send love and hugs.

P.S The overseas Christmas cards have been sent and Karen is writing the UK ones as I type this message, so a bit of Yorkshire is heading to America.

Dec 5, 2017, 3:58pm Top

>209 karenmarie: If they asked me, and they should, I would say NO to flurries of snow.

Thinking of you. It's always hard in the holidays, particularly if a loved one was ill or passed away. xx

Dec 5, 2017, 4:23pm Top

>210 harrygbutler: Sounds like a fun experiment, Harry!

>211 SomeGuyInVirginia: Barnard was prolific, that’s for sure. It turns out that I have four more of his books on my shelves, 3 standalone and one part of the Perry Trethowan series.

You mean part of the 17%?

I’m getting there. Keeping fingers crossed is good. I’m now on page 363 of The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle and getting back into it pretty nicely. Every once in a while, though, Murakami zings you with extreme grossness, which once I figure out that it is grossness, skip over.

>212 johnsimpson: Thanks for the encouragement, John! I did not know you were an artist. Do tell.

I used to get Newsweek, Bon Appetit, Architectural Digest, and various and sundry, but gave them all up quite a while ago as I really got tired of the ads and the inserts.

This week is a tough one, John, because on this date last year my sister told me that I needed to come to California quickly as our mother was failing rapidly. I was on a plane the next morning at 6 a.m. but while changing planes in Dallas my sister called to say that she had passed. So tomorrow will be tough, too. Sigh.

I’m getting ready to send cards – I have one to New Zealand, my mother’s pen pal of 60 years, and one to you and Karen. I need to do that this week, for sure.

>213 nittnut: Hi Jenn! Okay, just for you, No Snow, No Flurries! But the closer we get to Christmas, the more I’m going to want to see some of the white stuff. *smile*

Yes, this Christmas will be a bit sad. I didn't have a present to wrap for Mom and didn't have the heart to use the silver paper that she so loved on any other present.

Dec 5, 2017, 4:34pm Top

Karen, I'm sorry for the difficult time you're experiencing just now. My mom passed away around Christmas, too, so I can understand a bit what you're going through. Be kind to yourself.

Dec 5, 2017, 4:34pm Top

>214 karenmarie:, I am sorry tomorrow will be tough for you dear friend, this time of year is sad for many people as we seem to lose loved ones around this time of year. Christmas had been a sad time for us as well with Karen's mum passing away in the early hours of Christmas morning ten years ago now and four years ago her dad was supposed to be coming home for Christmas and he was released on Christmas Eve afternoon, I had him home for forty minutes before he had his final stroke and we spent all Christmas at the hospital until he passed away on the 2nd of January so we know how you feel dear friend. We will both be thinking of you tomorrow Karen and send our thoughts to you at this sad time.

Sending very special love and hugs and send a virtual hug from both of us.

Dec 5, 2017, 10:52pm Top


Larry is nuts. Just sayin'

Dec 5, 2017, 11:52pm Top

>76 karenmarie: I second the recommendation for The King's Grave. I read it this year and enjoyed it. The Fireside Watergate looks very interesting and will probably fly of the shelves given the current political climate. Your thread is moving so fast, no wonder you were so high in the posting stats!

Dec 6, 2017, 3:20am Top

Thinking of you as your thinking of your Mom, Karen. xx

Dec 6, 2017, 7:37am Top

Morning, Karen. Try to track down some Wiley Cash. His books, mostly take place, in and around North Carolina. I think he would be a good fit for you.

Dec 6, 2017, 8:21am Top

>215 katiekrug: Thank you, Katie. Last year the grief was sharp and there were the stresses of being the executor of her estate. This year I’m just very, very, sad and miss her.

>216 johnsimpson: Hi John. I didn’t realize that both Karen’s parents had passed and both at Christmas. Sending love and hugs back to both of you too.

>217 richardderus: Thank ‘ee kindly, RD. I’m assuming you mean that Larry’s nuts for wanting to get rid of 700 books?

>218 Familyhistorian: Thanks, Meg! I had to go back upthread to remember that I picked it up from tess_schoolmarm’s ROOTs thread.

And as I was reading The Fireside Watergate I was remembering the feel of those times and my final loss of political innocence.

I hope the book flies off the shelves because it's so good. Heavy-jowled Dicky was a lightning rod for dissent and disgust; however, there is a very yuge difference between Milhaus and the drumf. 43 years after RMN resigned and in comparison with the idiot-in-chief, I can respect several things he accomplished (opening up US relations with China and creation of the EPA , for example). But here's my personal analysis of the difference between the two of them.

Tricky Dick
1. knew politics and politicians
2. had a consistent and disinterested interest in serving US interests here and abroad (even if I disagreed with some of them)
3. did not put extreme and dangerous people into his cabinet
4. was competent until the events of Watergate overwhelmed him
5. was not clearly narcissistic, demented/senile, completely clueless
6. was intelligent and knew American and world History and had a plan for US interests
7. worked hard while in office and represented the President's Office respectfully

the drumf, on the other hand
1. has no clue as to how the government works
2. only cares about furthering his world-wide interests
3. has put incompetent and inexperienced extremely dangerous right-wing fascists, racists, and money whores into his cabinet
4. has been incompetent, inconsistent, easily swayed, and unwisely using social media to manipulate the news media and us into a frenzy with every tweet
5. is clinically diagnosable as a narcissist, as demented/senile, and always appears clueless unless he’s exhorting his followers
6. is abysmally ignorant of American and world History. This ignorance is playing out in North Korea, in Afghanistan, and in his most recent bizarre declaration that the US will recognize Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel, among other things, as he blunders around the world looking for ratings boosts.
7. has golfed almost more than he's worked, cost the government millions in Secret Service expenses and etc. for the golf he criticized Obama for, and has to be spoon fed his job in sound bites, bullet points, and charts and maps. He and Melania have debased the office. (those bizarre Christmas decorations.....)

>219 PaulCranswick: Thank you, Paul.

>220 msf59: Hi Mark. I just did – put The Last Ballad on my wishlist and will start keeping an eye out for him.

I slept well last night, got up at 7:30 and am well into my first cup of coffee. I’m using a snowmen and snowflake coffee mug, to nudge the snow gods to giving us some on Friday. They’re saying we might get some flurries.

Edited: Dec 6, 2017, 8:34am Top

>221 karenmarie: - Well put, Karen! May I share this? Interesting, I saw some comment somewhere about respecting the office of the President and my first thought was that it is trump himself who is DISrespecting that office, no one else. What a disgrace he is.

I think the only way to cope is with humour, even when (perhaps especially when) there is truly nothing funny about it at all. Have you seen this:


Dec 6, 2017, 8:40am Top

>222 jessibud2: Thank you Shelley! You may certainly share it, and if the list grows, good. I spent about 15 minutes or so thinking about it.

Jimmy Fallon's Robert Muller's Comin' To Town is priceless! I just forwarded it to my husband and will share it with a few other friends.

Dec 6, 2017, 9:29am Top

Good morning, Karen. My thoughts are with you in your sorrow.

Dec 6, 2017, 9:31am Top

Hugs for the date. Rough month for me, too.

I think your book on the Gnostic gospels sounds interesting, but the book's conclusions sound a bit controversial. Perhaps it's just the summary on the dust jacket, but I think most scholars don't believe that Gnosticism and Christianity are the same, and so to call the Gnostic gospels 'Christian documents' puts my antenna en pointe.

In my mind, I always have the controversial stuff in three camps (although I know it's a bell curve with many variations): The Christian apologists, the religious scholars, and those who are almost anti-Christian and new-agey.

I wish I knew more about the subject. I also wish ArcticStranger was still active on LT. He could give you great recommendations. But I think Elaine Pagels, Bart Ehrman and Luke Timothy Johnson all passed his scholarly test.

It looks like several of the Great Courses on the subject are available through my library loan system. Perhaps after the new year. Sigh.

Edited: Dec 6, 2017, 9:58am Top

>224 harrygbutler: Thank you, Harry.

>225 streamsong: Thank you, Janet.

I'm almost sure that Elaine Pagels is mentioned somewhere on the dust jacket. The problem is that I take dust jackets off books when I'm reading them (and that's a subject all in itself!) and don't remember where I put it.

I've read two of Pagels' books, Beyond Belief and Reading Judas.

Looks like Arctic-Stranger posted a bit in April then went away again.

I come at all this from a non-Christian perspective and with skepticism. I am a liberal theist. I have many Christian family members. I am of a seeking mind. I wonder how Christianity has morphed from what Jesus the Christ taught and what's in the Bible. I wonder at why books were included and not, obviously not believing that just these books were the word of God.

It's all interesting and worthy of study.


There are seven cardinals in my Crepe Myrtle. It's cold and damp out and the birds are eying the bird feeders with glee again. Oops. The blue jay is chasing them off and then they're returning. The blue jay cannot use the feeder because he's too heavy for it but he's playing domination games.

Dec 6, 2017, 12:02pm Top

Blue jays! The Trumps of the bird world.

Yes. Larry's clinically diagnosable insanity manifests itself in the clearly wrongheaded and impossibly misguided desire to act on a low-class whimsical notion of TV ownership's desirability, which has morphed into some sort of psychosis resulting in *setting*a*goal* of removing 700 (seven hundred!) books from his home!!


Dec 6, 2017, 12:50pm Top

Oh no. Maligning blue jays.

And re Larry - tell us what you really think RD!

Dec 6, 2017, 12:55pm Top

Happy St. Nick, Horrible! This is the first image I've found of him with Zwart Piet.

Now really, in all the years we've been friends, how else would you expect me to respond except with complete candor? You'd be worried sick if I mealy-mouthed some "polite" (read: fake) opinion!

*more smoochings*

Edited: Dec 6, 2017, 1:24pm Top

>227 richardderus: - Hey! Being from Toronto, I take exception to comparing my beloved Blue Jays to trump!! ICK! Just you wait, when we win the World Series, that'll show ya!


Besides, Jays have better *hair*

Dec 6, 2017, 1:30pm Top

Thank you, RD! Having married into a family with Dutch ancestry, I'm appreciative. I was also going to make Speculaasbrokken today and still might, but if so I have to go to the grocery store to buy anise seeds or even better, ground anise seeds.

I wouldn't expect you to hide your true feelings, RD! Just messing with you.

The lads are here to replace our kitchen faucet and soap dispenser. It's a tight fit under there and there's a septic garbage disposer to complicate the issue. They said it wouldn't take long but have been at it for 30 minutes so far. When I told him it was a local plumber, cousin of my cleaning lady's SiL, he said "ah, Bubba Plumbing", but I'm sure they'll do a great job. They're both slender and not too tall, so that helps.

Dec 6, 2017, 1:57pm Top

>230 jessibud2: Even the birds themselves couldn't have worse hair than the Orange Shitgibbon.

>231 karenmarie: Heh.

Dec 6, 2017, 2:16pm Top

Gah! I hate Blue Jays! Bully birds! There are some where I live that will follow me around the parking lot swearing up a storm. I swear I'll take a tennis racket to the leetle blighters.

Crazy? I'm not crazy. I've never thought clearer! All told, I have around 14 thousand books. 4 here and 10 in storage. I have a better library than a lot of country libraries. That's nuts. The dream of my moving into stately Wayne manor with unlimited space is not going to happen. I'll probably move into a three bedroom outside Ashville or Roanoke, but I'm never going to have the wall space to accommodate all those books standing on their ends, lie-berry-like. I have schpilkes.

Dec 6, 2017, 2:31pm Top

Shpilkes! Go know from these goyim using the Yiddish!

About what are you agitated? Is sanity returning and your hasty, ill-conceived notion of ridding yourself of seven hundred (700) books finally sinking in and causing extreme guilt?

I'm all for violence against blue jays. (Not the baseball kind.)

Dec 6, 2017, 3:26pm Top

>221 karenmarie:

With no good feelings about Nixon except for finally ending the War in Vietnam and

with Mueller acting so slowly,

the only way I see to get rid of this monstrous lunatic racist moron

is when the leaders of the anti-trump organizations, from the Democrats to the Sierra Club,

unite us all under the banner ENOUGH!!!

Dec 6, 2017, 3:31pm Top

>226 karenmarie:

The history of the Catholic Church pretty much covers what happened to Christianity following "Do unto others...."

Jesus would not recognize what organized religion has done to his words, though he might well enjoy the music, art, and architecture.

Edited: Dec 6, 2017, 6:01pm Top

>212 johnsimpson:, Hi Karen, we were on a family holiday in Falmouth in the beautiful county of Cornwall and I was thinking about a night school course. Karen suggested writing but although I love reading I am not sure I have the ideas and although I could have found a course, any work I may have done would be hidden in a file. I have always fancied painting so I bought the three art magazines available and looked at art materials. Once home I looked at the courses available at the local centre and signed up to a Watercolour course, not knowing that this is the hardest to master.

I enjoyed the course and we had a good tutor and just after Christmas in the first year she gave us the option to use Acrylics which are known as poor man's Oils. Acrylic can be used thickly like Oils or watered down to use in a Watercolour way BUT easier than Watercolour. We were told to select a picture to use as a guide and she said use a decent size Board. I waited until the morning of my course day and bought a board that was 26 inch by 18 inch and the colours she said I would need. I got into class and just froze looking at a white board, Phillipa told me how to start and I went from there, the following week I was near to finishing but needed help to place the trees, she painted the first in the easiest spot and I had to finish it. I did this and the class thought it was good. When I started Rob said that if we had an open fire I would provide something for it but when Karen saw it she wanted it framed and Rob had to eat his words. It took pride of place in the living room for ten years until we decorated the room and now is awaiting a spot in the spare bedroom. Since then I have taken to Acrylic painting in a big way and I like large canvasses.

I always say that I am better than Van Gogh as I have sold three paintings and he only sold one whilst he was alive as he gave them away in exchange for board and food. I have done a pencil drawing which is on the dining room wall, I love looking at still lifes but couldn't do one until Phillipa told us to use something we enjoy to sketch and I love cricket so used a batting glove and a ball from Rob and did a good drawing. I have some photo's of my paintings on my profile page so you could have a look at what I do but I haven't picked up paints, Pastels or pencils for a year or two but will do some next year.

On my profile page I have three photo's of Acrylic paintings, My pencil picture and a small watercolour that is hung in the kitchen, I hope you like what I do my dear.

Sending love and hugs dear friend.

Edited: Dec 6, 2017, 6:08pm Top

>230 jessibud2: Blue Jays may be bully birds, but they’re way better than drumpf and they have gorgeous markings.

And *hair*

>232 richardderus: I just love hearing him called the Orange Shitgibbon.

So they took about 40 minutes total and here’s the result. Simple pleasures for simple minds…..

>233 SomeGuyInVirginia: I don’t like them chasing the Cardinals away, Larry, but they are gorgeous. Much prettier than drumpf.

Well, I forgot that you had THAT many books. You have three times as many as I have and I’ve culled 190 this year and 121 last year, so OK, you can cull 700 books. That’s not unreasonable. That’s even a lower percentage than my 311 of ~4500.

>234 richardderus: Schpilkes is another new word for me.

No violence against blue jays. Baseball or aviary.

>235 m.belljackson: Tricky Dick did end the war in Viet Nam, true. Mueller is acting rather quickly, IMO, considering that he didn’t start until mid-May and has already gotten two indictments and two guilty pleas. Not the big kahuna, admittedly, but I think he’s digging deep. He’s subpoenaed Deutsche Bank for records on the institution’s business dealings with drumpf and his family and has apparently gotten them.

I agree that all right-minded and like-minded people need to unify. This is the worst president EVER. Not even just in my lifetime, but ever.

>236 m.belljackson: Agreed, Marianne. I think organized religion started to distort his words way before the end of Paul’s ministry, much less in the almost two millennia since. Art, music, and architecture are all well and good but are peripheral to some of the terrible things done in the name of Christianity. Other religions too, but since it’s the Bible I’m reading, that’s the focus, at least for me, right now.

Dec 6, 2017, 8:42pm Top

>238 karenmarie:

Re: Mueller - it just feels to me that his projected actions, if speeded up,
would have prevented this current nightmare disaster of giving tax credit to the rich while gutting Medicare, the ACA,
and cancer care to those on Medicare. What feeling is beyond hatred?

He has drained the swamp of all decency and now will take all our hard earned tax money.

Dec 7, 2017, 1:59am Top

>221 karenmarie: Excellent comparison, Karen. I cringe every time I hear "we didn't tell you about what Trump tweeted but we just can't ignore this one."

>237 johnsimpson: I didn't know that you painted, John. Interesting.

Dec 7, 2017, 7:07am Top

Morning, Karen. Sweet Thursday. Boo to the sleet. We had a light coating of snow. It will be cold today. Not quite reaching 30.

On Harry's advice, I am trying the pepper suet. Let's see if it keeps the squirrels away.

Dec 7, 2017, 7:09am Top

Hi Mark! Brrrr!

You'll have to let me know how the experiment goes. So far the squirrels have not found the suet feeder on the porch; on the other hand neither have the woodpeckers. Titmice and chickadees have, though.

Dec 7, 2017, 8:36am Top

Good morning, Karen! I haven't actually seen anyone at our suet cakes for sure, now that the starlings and grackles aren't around. The chickadee appears to be going for the tube feeder content instead. I may try a different feeder for the next suet cake I put out.

Edited: Dec 7, 2017, 10:18am Top

>239 m.belljackson: - re the gutting of Medicare, the ACA, etc. It is not in my nature to wish ill on anyone, as a rule. But there are a few people for whom I am willing to break that rule. Hitler, trump, those kind.

What I wish now is that the ONLY people who would be adversely affected by trump's cut and slash agenda, are those who voted for him. Period. It seems to me that this is a punishment that fits the crime. Real justice, in a world of so much injustice.

Edited: Dec 7, 2017, 10:08am Top

Hi Harry!

A different feeder for the next suet cake? Do tell.

Our chickadees and titmice have done both - sunflower seeds in the tube feeder and the suet feeder. I need to change the suet out, though, I think. It's not very popular.

I'm meeting the son of my friend Vanessa this morning to pick up my 1/2 box of mandarins and the 4 boxes of navel orangess for a friend. The sales benefit the Northwood Marching Band, which daughter was a part of from 2008-2011. Vanessa is in her last year as Treasurer, having taken over for me when daughter graduated HS. Yum, mandarins!

The divinity making was successful yesterday. It's amazing how that works - use the proper ratio of ingredients and there's a great chance for success! Some of this divinity is for my sister's MiL and so I can now mail the package to California and 2 letters to foreign parts (England to johnsimpson and New Zealand to my mother's pen pal of 60 years Min.) Color me efficient!

Dec 7, 2017, 11:30am Top

Divinity. How...nice. *shiver*

Like pralines, divinity is so so so so so so so sweeeeeeeeet that it causes me actual physical pain. Like undiluted orange juice. Also turkish delight.


I need coffee STAT! *smooch*

Dec 7, 2017, 12:52pm Top

>244 jessibud2: What a great idea, Shelley! Let drumpf voters reap what they sow, but let the rest of us alone.

>245 karenmarie: It is very sweet. One piece a day sounds about right. I had one this morning with my cup of black no sugar coffee.

Errands run. Poinsettias purchased for inside pansies purchased for outside. Fruit picked up. Canned cat food bought for Kitty William. Package and cards mailed. Time to read a bit.

Dec 7, 2017, 1:36pm Top

>245 karenmarie: The divinity looks divine! (haha) I've heard that the weather should be dry for the divinity to be a success. I have a recipe for cherry divinity that is very, very good. Maybe we'll have to give it a try this year.

You are so productive! You are such a good example to us!

Karen O.

Dec 7, 2017, 2:00pm Top

Hi Karen!

Most cookbooks say it should be 50% or less humidity. Our house had 49% humidity yesterday and it worked.

Thank you. *blush*

Dec 7, 2017, 2:10pm Top

I'd need the whole ten-cup pot of black no sugar coffee to get one piece of divinity down me. Twelve cups if it was a big one.

*smooch* for your industrious, productive day

Dec 7, 2017, 2:38pm Top

Kudos for cooking. When I move out, the only thing I'm going to have to do to my kitchen is dust.

Dec 7, 2017, 2:48pm Top

>250 richardderus: Aw, RichardDear and I was thinking about sending you some. Oh well, more for us.

My industrious day got industrier. I just made a pot of homemade clam chowder and ate two bowls. Yum. I rarely, if ever, put bacon in recipes, but did because I wanted it to be authentic, and I'm resisting a third bowl.

>251 SomeGuyInVirginia: Thanks, Larry. Some of us love cooking, some of us don't. You still da bomb.

Next up, possibly starting today, will be Speculaasbrokken, a Dutch fall spiced cookie. You make the dough, let it rest overnight, then bake it.

Dec 7, 2017, 2:52pm Top

>252 karenmarie: I am very curious how you are going to like the speculaas!
Usually I have no problem at all with no longer consuming sugar & sweets, but your thread makes me drool now and then ;-)

Dec 7, 2017, 2:56pm Top

>252 karenmarie: Ooooooo chowder you can send! I love chowder.

I also love speculaas...just sayin'...

Edited: Dec 8, 2017, 2:59am Top

>253 FAMeulstee: Hi Anita! Some of what I've been seeing on the internet likens them to what we call Windmill Cookies, which are highly spiced. I've always loved them. Maybe you can indulge and buy a tiny bit of Speculaasbrokken?

I love to bake and love to cook. This is the first time in a long while that I've felt calm enough to attempt some more ambitious things. It's fun!

EllaTim posted a picture of Speculaasbrokken and I was intrigued. I found a recipe off the internet, then showed it to her. She said that the recipe looked okay to her except that the recipe she looked at said to let the dough rest overnight. Instead of buying Speculaasruiden, the special spice mix, I found a couple of recipes that had the same spices, picked one, and made my own just now. I had to buy a new jar of white pepper since I've been out for a while, and my friend Louise let me have her bottle of anise seeds and use what I needed. I had to grind them in my MiL's old coffee mill, carefully wiped clean so no residue of coffee. I made enough spice for this time and one more time. And now I've made the dough and it's resting in the refrigerator and I'm officially Done for the Day.

>254 richardderus: Hi RD! Two for three, not bad. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to e-mail food?

Dec 8, 2017, 1:11am Top

>255 karenmarie: Emailed food - I wonder if that is in our future?

Dec 8, 2017, 3:01am Top

Hi Meg!

I mentioned that to my husband last night and he said that all things could be explained by Star Trek and reminded me of the food replicators.

Dec 8, 2017, 5:13am Top

>245 karenmarie: ...and 2 letters to foreign parts (England to johnsimpson and New Zealand to my mother's pen pal of 60 years Min.) Color me efficient!
You are efficient, and thoughtful too!!

Dec 8, 2017, 5:41am Top

Hi Megan!

Thank you. When I was cleaning out my mother's house in May-June, I found many gifts that Min had given my mother over the years, many photos and cards and letters, too. Min also sent Christmas cards to me until recently as she's gotten more frail. I still have the wedding present she sent to us in 1991, too.

Dec 8, 2017, 6:22am Top

92. The Chocolate Cobweb by Charlotte Armstrong
12/5/17 to 12/8/17

From the back cover:

When Amanda Garth found out that she might have been switched at birth with the son of the famous artist Tobias Garrison, she decided to go and see for herself if she was a child of the Garrison family.

And very quickly Amanda was caught in a perilous web of jealousy, suspicion and murder. For only the slim possibility that Amanda was Tobias’ child stood between his son Thone and sudden, violent death…

Why I wanted to read it: Short and sweet for my 100-book goal and it has been calling out to me for a while. *smile*

I do love Charlotte Armstrong. A Dram of Poison and The Gift Shop are my favorites, but all of the books I’ve read by her are suspenseful and tension-filled.

I must say that the back cover is deceptive and one is disabused of Thone’s Evil Intentions early on.

The beauty of Armstrong’s writing is that you pretty much know who the bad guy really is early on. The protagonist(s) might or might not know, but the action is deliberately channeled and focused toward a showdown of some sort. In The Chocolate Cobweb the focus shifts to another character quickly and convincingly and in this case Amanda and Thone quickly learn who to suspect.

It was written in 1948 and in some ways seem very dated, and the whole premise of the book is obviated by the fact of quick paternity tests now. The language is occasionally as old-fashioned as the description of the amethyst beads in the example below, and how many people know what ruching is? But as far as emotions, human relationships, and powerful descriptions go, it’s readable and intriguing.

Bold upright she sat, in a dull lavender silk frock, crisply set off by a little white ruching. Her white hair was heaped high, showing off her small ears, which wore tonight tiny amethyst buttons in the lobes. Amethyst beads, in an old-fashioned design, lay close around her soft neck, on the soft, pale, delicately wrinkled flesh that would be clean and scented. Her cheeks were pink, doll pink, on the round of the bones. Her dark eyes were pleased and sparkling in the candlelight.

So cute, she looked! Cute adorable little old Mrs. Santa Claus, with such pink, clean, brisk, and busy little hands!

Fanny, like a raddled old parrot who had fought age to a draw and now ignored the whole matter with a kind of brilliant indifference, was in shining black. She wore her diamonds.
This is vivid and bold writing. It can be seen as stereotypical, but you must agree that you can see Ione Garrison and Fanny Austin.

The love story is a bit contrived but satisfying and the young lovers so naïve and endearing.

One of her lesser books, in my opinion, yet worth reading if you’re an Armstrong fan or even a fan of romantic suspense. The title is a bit hysterical and overblown, referring to one musing by Amanda, but I must admit that it's why I bookmooched this book in 2009.

Dec 8, 2017, 6:30am Top

>259 karenmarie: How special, a penpal of 60 years.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for the speculaas to come out right, and yes, windmill cookies are very similar.

Your divinity looks intriguing, but if it resembles Turkish delight, it's not for me. I had some of that for the first time last week when we went out for dinner at a Turkish/Persian like restaurant. So sweet that I felt my teeth would fall out at the instant.

Dec 8, 2017, 6:35am Top

Hi Ella!

They were pen pals but never met. My mom never traveled out of the country.

I'll probably make the speculaasbrokken this afternoon. I have a Friends of the Library meeting this morning with the President to get caught up. He was out of the country for 2 weeks and there are a couple of things we need to get in agreement on before presenting to the library.

It is very sweet. One piece a day is good enough for me, but I do like nougat-type candies. I probably won't have any today, though, since I'm sure I'll be sampling the speculaasbrokken after I make it.

Dec 8, 2017, 9:26am Top

I've been meaning to read The Chocolate Cobweb for a while, too, but I don't like romance in books. The Keep starts out as a great scary book but is ruined by the romantic angle.

Dec 8, 2017, 9:31am Top

Hi Larry!

There isn't even any actual kissing much less anything else in The Chocolate Cobweb. It's an attraction that grows but doesn't overwhelm the story at all, IMO.

Dec 8, 2017, 10:52am Top

>260 karenmarie: I love the description of Fanny as a "raddled old parrot" who's "fought age to a draw"!

Dec 8, 2017, 11:41am Top

>255 karenmarie:

Emailed food? > likely Amazon is on it, speedy with a local drone.

Dec 8, 2017, 2:08pm Top

No kissing! Kissing is the worst! Where there's kissing there's cooing, and cooing is the beginning of the end!

Edited: Dec 8, 2017, 2:12pm Top

>267 SomeGuyInVirginia: No no, Your Lunaticity, kissing is merely ridiculous. *WINKING* is the Worst. They even start with the same letter! See how handy that is? A built-in mnemonic.

Dec 8, 2017, 4:04pm Top

>265 richardderus: Yup. Vivid. And all dressed in black and wearing her diamonds.

>266 m.belljackson: Hi Marianne! No drones! Do not want drones here in my neck of the woods. No more spying than is already happening in this world.

>267 SomeGuyInVirginia: Kissing->Cooing->The End. Well, there was a bit of cooing, but definitely no kissing.

>268 richardderus: RD, kissing is not ridiculous. Even though it's a man talking to a woman, which I know does not appeal to you, don't you like the description of kissing from Bull Durham (at 1:18)?

What Crash Believes

Dec 8, 2017, 5:16pm Top

93. Marlon Brando: Portraits and Film Stills 1946-1995 edited by Lothar Schirmer
12/5/17 to 12/8/17

The description from Amazon:

Features film stills of Brando's movies accompanied by text based on the actor's 1956 interview with Truman Capote.

Why I wanted to read it: Short and sweet for my 100-book goal and I’ve always had a grand passion for Marlon Brando.

The 1957 Truman Capote interview of Marlon Brando in Kyoto, Japan, “The Duke in His Domain”, published in The New Yorker in November of 1957 is reprinted here, abridged, and with appalling spelling errors and even a few clear typos. It doesn’t matter, though, because it’s easy to go to The New Yorker and read the unabridged interview published in 1957.

What is important in this book is the beautiful collection of photographs of Brando with some commentary, not too much, just enough to keep the flow of the photographs moving and interesting. All his movies through the year of publication, 1995, are listed in the back, along with a brief biography through the fall of 1994.

Dec 9, 2017, 7:15am Top

Karen, speaking of names, how did you come up with the name of your daughter? I always find that interesting! In my case, we did not know the sex of first child and we had narrowed it down to Daniel/ Matthew or Holly/ Sarah ( it was December). When our first baby boy was born, the nurse asked me in the delivery room - what is his name? Inwardly I panicked and thought - we are not sure yet. But I was to " out of it " to tell the nurse I don't know, so I said " Daniel." Later in the recovery room , I asked my husband is Daniel okay? We can alway go with Matthew, but he was happy . With William, we knew he was a boy at around?? 18 -20 weeks and zeroed in on William for the rest of the pregnacy, with a back up girls name of Rose, just in case the ultrasound was incorrect.

Dec 9, 2017, 7:52am Top

Morning, Karen. Happy Saturday. Still experiencing internet woes. Hope we get this corrected later today.

So far, so good with the pepper suet. May it continue.

Dec 9, 2017, 8:04am Top

>271 vancouverdeb: Hi Deborah. We had my husband's name IV if a boy (Frederick William), and nothing for a girl's name 'til about 5 months along. Before that I liked Leanna but Bill said his father would shit bricks if we chose it because it "anne" in it and he and Bill's mother were divorced. He liked Loreena, but I said it sounded too country to me (Low-REE-na). We were at an impasse until I was 5 months along and we were at a little party Bill's Mom's friend held in our honor for the pregnancy, and heard the name Jenna. That was it, along with my middle name Marie, so Jenna Marie. And we had the girl, so have our daughter Jenna Marie.

At one point in my pregnancy I had terrible indigestion - not nausea, but indigestion - and had become a championship burper. I could have won contests. As a joke we said if it was a girl we'd name her Burpee Louise. If we'd had a second child and a girl, I would have definitely used Louise as a middle name because I genuinely love the name. Now I've got neighbor Louise, and Bill had a Great-Aunt Eloise.

>272 msf59: Good morning, Mark! Oh no! I just posted on your thread that I hoped you were all modemed-up again. Boo flunk.

Ah, good news about the pepper suet. I've had a little bit of activity on the suet feeder where it is, but may get another one to put back on the big feeding station in the back.

Dec 9, 2017, 12:59pm Top

Happy Saturday, Horrible, from the confines of my room...it's snowing lightly and the forecast says "wintry mix" later, which effectively means "oh HELL no" for Big Daddy going outside.

I tried to get into Solar Bones earlier but it was a bust. I read a ridiculous and inconsequential gay romance novella instead and it cheered me right on up.

Dec 9, 2017, 1:19pm Top

Heya Karen, are you getting snow? We are but it's too warm to accumulate. Tonight may be tricky.

If I'd been a girl (don't start, RD), I would have been named Olivia. That was my paternal grandmother's name, and her nickname was Lollie. I'd have been Lollie 2, or Lollie Pop.

And that's why I believe in a God.

Dec 9, 2017, 1:20pm Top

>268 richardderus: I've always found winking to be a little creepy, too.

Dec 9, 2017, 1:36pm Top

Winking = pedophilia. Criminal creepiness.

Dec 9, 2017, 1:55pm Top

>274 richardderus: Hi RD! Happy, even-if-confined-to-your-room Saturday to you. I just clicked on the touchstone for Solar Bones and saw stream of consciousness and thought Oh Hell No. Much better to read a romance. *smooches* from your own TVT Horrible

>275 SomeGuyInVirginia: We had a bit yesterday and the potential for some starting about now but only saw a few flakes when we just got home from running errands. Anything we get here should end by 4, but they're only predicting perhaps 1/2" here anyway. You and Parker stay inside and safe and warm!

Olivia. I like that name. But I guess you're grateful for your Y-chromosome, right? *smile*

Dec 9, 2017, 2:14pm Top

I spoke too soon. It's lightly snowing here. The birds are panicking a bit. I emptied my new bird bath out and have put a tray of mixed bird seed-sunflower seeds in it in addition to the feeders.

Dec 9, 2017, 3:20pm Top

I was commanded by RichardDerus to eat something sweet, so pulled some Pecan Christmas Crack, aka, Ritz Cracker toffee, out of the freezer. CrazyMamie has requested the recipe, so here it is. Like I said on RD's thread, I think I'll make it like I make Cracker Fudge, 1/2 chocolate chips, 1/2 peanut butter chips. Cuts the strong chocolate flavor. (Okay, Cracker Fudge recipe below, too).


Pecan Christmas Crack. Imagine all of the deliciousness of toffee, topped with chocolate and pecans; once you make this toffee bark and crack it into pieces, you simply can’t stop munching!

• 54 Ritz Crackers (or saltines)
• 1 cup butter
• 1 cup dark brown sugar
• 2 cups semi-sweet chocolate chips
• 1 cup chopped pecans

1. Preheat oven to 400 degrees.
2. Line an 11×17 pan with foil and grease the foil well. Line with crackers.
3. In a medium saucepan, combine butter and brown sugar and stir to mix. Bring to a boil over medium heat and let come to a rolling boil for 3 minutes. Once the mixture comes to a boil, DO NOT STIR. (Your toffee should
reach 270-290 degrees if using a candy thermometer)
4. Pour brown sugar mixture over the crackers. Bake 4 minutes. Turn the oven off.
5. Remove from the oven and wait 1 minute. Pour chocolate chips over the top and let sit 4 minutes or until chocolate is soft (or place 1 minute in the warm oven). Spread chocolate evenly and sprinkle pecans on top.
6. Cool on the counter slightly and then place into the freezer to cool completely. Break into pieces.


Cracker Fudge

Line a 9” x 13” pan with saltine crackers.
Melt 1 stick of butter and pour over the crackers.
Bake at 350F for 5-10 minutes until light brown.
As the crackers are baking, melt together one 12-oz bag of chocolate chips and one 12 oz bag of peanut butter chips. (or equal amounts of whatever size peanut butter chips bag you can get. Recently I can only find 10-oz bags, so 10 oz each.)
Spread over crackers.
Refrigerate for 1-2 hours, and break into pieces.

Dec 9, 2017, 3:22pm Top

Hi, Karen. It's been snowing here, but only lightly, since about 8 a.m. It is accumulating some, but I doubt it will stick around. We've had the tree in place since last Sunday, but no decorations. Yet. Judi's making a pot of chili. Mmmmmm.

Dec 9, 2017, 3:24pm Top

Hi Bill! There seems to be snow everywhere I look here on LT this afternoon. It's still snowing here, too, but won't stick. We waited a week to decorate our tree, too. It's still early days, right? I made chili 2 weeks ago, so will make a pot of Beef Vegetable soup this afternoon instead. Homemade chili and soup are soooo good.

Dec 9, 2017, 3:31pm Top

>280 karenmarie: Thanks so much for sharing that, Karen!

Dec 9, 2017, 3:32pm Top

You're very welcome, Mamie! Husband gets the last piece as soon as it is properly thawed. He recently lost a filling and I don't want to contribute to his teeth woes by having him crack a tooth on frozen PCC.

Dec 9, 2017, 4:13pm Top

That's the proper spirit. You made the stuff, so now you share in the enjoyment of it!

Dec 9, 2017, 8:00pm Top

>273 karenmarie: I'd have gone with Burpee Louise, myself (even if it does sound a little country, too). Guess that's why it's lucky for the kids I never had that I never had any kids.

Dec 9, 2017, 10:33pm Top

>285 richardderus: Yes. Thank you, RD!

>286 majleavy: My daughter would have been traumatized for life. The children you never had salute you, Michael!

Bill and I are watching Midsomer Murders again since we've gotten through all the other series that we had to watch in order to turn in our old DISH dvr Hopper and Joey in order to get the ones that support 4K.

So the second episode we watched tonight, S10 E3, King's Crystal, was very good. It was only as the credits rolled by that I realized that Sam Heughan of Outlander fame had a lead role as Ian King. It was 10 years ago, after all.....

Dec 10, 2017, 8:43am Top

Morning, Karen. Happy Sunday. Well, we are still seeing squirrels hanging on the suet feeder, so maybe it doesn't work, after all. I will watch a bit more closely today, since I'll be home.

Enjoy your day.

Dec 10, 2017, 9:49am Top

Hi Mark!

Those dratted squirrels! Are they actually eating it or just trying it and then leaving? Enjoy your day off.

I'm all caught up on my Bible as Literature year-long read, coming into the home stretch. I'm 2/3 of the way through TWUBC. I must admit that it's not grabbing me as did Kafka on the Shore. I will finish it this year, though.

So. The Bible, The complete idiot's guide to the Bible, Versus by Ogden Nash, TWUBC. Finishing them by year end will take me to 97. Only 3 more books to start and finish before year end to hit my goal.

Today will be a busy one, though. I leave a few minutes before 11 to pick up Louise, have lunch, then go to the 2 p.m. matinee of a play called Dot at the Playmakers Repertory Company in Chapel Hill. I'll probably get home about 5:30, in just enough time to eat a bit of dinner then watch an episode or two of Midsomer Murders before going to bed. Not much time for reading, but I'll squeeze in a bit before I leave.

Tomorrow is lunch with some Friends of the Library friends, then dinner with my high school friend Jan. I need to start Christmas cards tomorrow.....

Dec 10, 2017, 10:20am Top

Hi Karen! Very enjoyable plans for the day.
You'll make it to 100 books read this year, we're cheering you on.

Dec 10, 2017, 11:05am Top

Jeez, we are simpatico, aren't we, Karen. My wife and I just watched two more episodes of Midsomer Murders yesterday. We love that series - it must be an actor's dream to get on there and play one of those quirky characters.

We're still in the early seasons - our daughter says there are 19 or so of them?

Dec 10, 2017, 12:05pm Top

Rae (my daughter) and I also like to watch Midsomer Murders. We have watched the first two seasons, I think.

Hoping your Sunday is full of fabulous, Karen!

Dec 10, 2017, 1:00pm Top

I'll check Midsomer Murders out, I love Brit tv and radio.

Man, I am rooting for you to make 100!

Dec 10, 2017, 1:38pm Top

You'll make it to 100 Karen!

Have a lovely Sunday.

Dec 10, 2017, 2:25pm Top

Happy Sunday, Horrible my dear.

Dec 10, 2017, 7:48pm Top

>290 EllaTim: Hi Ella! Yes. I have had a very good day so far. Nice lunch out and excellent play with friend Louise. I missed it, but the Panthers beat the Vikings. Also missed the Cowboys beating the Giants (sorry, Katie!). Husband was watching the Eagles Rams game when I got home and it's such a good game that we'll watch
'til the end, although I came here for a few to catch up. I don’t have a preference beyond the fact that if the Rams win they’ll both be 10 and 3. Symmetry. We will be watching one more Midsomer Murders after the game ends.

>291 jnwelch: We certainly are simpatico, Joe! We’re on season 10. We started watching earlier this fall then stopped as we had a bit of scrambling to get things watched that were DVRd so that we can get a new Hopper/Joey system that supports 4K and therefore the new TV downstairs (and mine upstairs, too). Does that make sense? Giving up the old Hopper/Joey system causes us to lose everything recorded, but losing what we've watched is okay.

I recognize so many people in Midsomer Murders. Husband or I will say “I know that person…. Now, who is it?” then go to imdb.com, find the episode, find the person, then see what they’ve done that we recognize. It’s a lot of fun. Yes, there are 19 seasons.

>292 Crazymamie: Hi Mamie! Excellent. I recommend the series to anybody who likes mysteries, likes British TV, and likes intelligent, quirky, and well-developed episodes. Each episode is about 1 ½ hours.

>293 SomeGuyInVirginia: Do, Larry! I think you’ll love it.

Thank you! I am pushing for 3 more books within the next 10 days, plus all the ones I’ve started.

>294 PaulCranswick: Thank you for the vote of confidence, Paul! Sunday’s been lovely, if cold outside. I think the high was 44F.

>295 richardderus: Thanks, RichardDear! *smooches*

Back to the Eagles/Rams.

Dec 11, 2017, 10:02am Top

I hadn't seen any activity here so I thought permaybehaps you'd new threaded....

Dec 11, 2017, 11:42am Top

>296 karenmarie: I find there are recognizable faces in most British TV and I watch a lot of it. I love Midsomer Murders and have been watching it for years on our Knowledge Network. Unfortunately, they only do a short run on Saturday nights. Those are now over and they are on to Morse, from the very beginning so this could take a while but I did see the first episode where Morse and Lewis meet.

Good luck with reaching 100 books, the business of the season doesn't help, does it? I am sure you have some short ones on the shelf or maybe some historical romances, those read quickly.

Dec 11, 2017, 11:47am Top

Hi, Karen! It sounds like you had a good weekend. Enjoy your Monday as well.

Edited: Dec 11, 2017, 2:20pm Top

Congrats on having 100 books within reasonable reach. I wanted to, but didn't push the stops and pull the levers and other such machinations in a way that would have boosted me to my goal. Oh Puh-shaw.

Did the Eagles/Rams game play out to your satisfaction? I liked the final score all right, and I give a gleeful hoot for defensive lineman Brandon Graham's final play pick-six. Not liking Wentz's knee injury.

My wife has finished Murder on the Orient Express, so that's up next for me. But I must finish A Farewell to Arms first. Sad.

Dec 11, 2017, 2:47pm Top

>297 richardderus: Hallo RD! I’ve been busy today so far. Just got back from lunch with a friend that I met through Friends of the Library. She lives in Galloway Ridge, a pissy senior retirement community. We had lunch in their café then went to her and her husband’s 2-bedroom apartment. So gorgeous. They have beautiful artwork, tons of books and bookshelves. On the downside, it's small and on the bottom floor. Wouldn't suit husband and me at all.

I’ll be new-threading here very soon.

>298 Familyhistorian: Hi Meg. Yes, short books and possibly Secrets of the Heart by Mary Balogh.

>299 harrygbutler: Thanks, Harry. Nice weekend, nice day so far. I really want a day without stuff to do or husband around…. That will be tomorrow. :)

Tonight I’m having dinner with my old IT department. Should be nice. It’s a 28-year tradition, although now our boss doesn’t pay for it. We each pay for our own since all of us except one are retired.

>300 weird_O: Hi Bill and thanks. I admit to reading short books recently, but I will end up reading upwards of 33-34K pages.

I didn’t really care either way except that it was a good game. Rams winning would have made them both 10-2 which is symmetrical, but it was fun to watch the back and forth. Wentz surely did get sandwiched, didn’t he? It is worrisome. And yes, a pick-six with one second on the clock is insult to injury.

Huh. A Farewell to Arms. Nope. Although I’m getting the N word here, too, in A Good Man is Hard to Find by Flannery O’Conner, a book of short stories. I’m going to track the number of times the N word is used per short story. The first short story is absolutely dismal, as RL book club member Nancy warned us they all were at our last meeting – she reads ahead. Just what I need, stories that make me want to crawl into a hole and just be depressed. Wait. That’s what’s happening in TWUBC! Sigh. Two angst-y books.

On to a new thread!

Dec 11, 2017, 4:48pm Top

Midsomer Murders: we just watched one with a young Hugh Bonneville in it. I agree, watching for actors we know is part of the fun.

I'm surprised there was anyone left to murder in the 19th season.

Dec 11, 2017, 5:15pm Top

I'm surprised there was anyone left to murder in the 19th season.

I agree. *smile* And I remember the episode with Hugh Bonneville. Husband recognized him first - we both love Downton Abbey.

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