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It occurred to me that this group didn't have a message board for miscellaneous posts. Here a first:-) Most of us are having great fun cataloging our libraries and making literary friends all over the world. Why not take a little time to thank the people who have made it happen? Send a postcard to Tim, Abby and the gang to: LibraryThing PO Box 391586 Cambridge, MA 02139 USA Can you imagine being on the receiving end of postcards from all over the world? Makes going to the mailbox so much more enjoyable. Please join us in thanking Tim, Abby and the LT crew for this fabulous service and cool place to hang out and discuss BOOKS! I am reading alot of Bronte sisters and I'm totally swept away. Anyone else ? Jan 18, 2008, 6:16am (top)Message 3: juliette07Avaland - What a thoughtful idea and how right you are to suggest we value the 'crew' for their contribution to so many. I have always read but this community has been an enriching experience beyond my wildest dreams. In addition it is one, albeit small way in which links across nations and cultures may be developed. I am learning so much along with, and from others. juliette07, you're in this group as well? We seem to be travelling everywhere together! And I must say, you make a wonderful travelling companion! Jan 18, 2008, 4:57pm (top)Message 5: juliette07Hi Laura - yes, a thoughtful friend invited me along to travel along this path for a while! Strangely enough it was because I had written a comment on your blog and mentioned the list of 100 Modern Modern Novels Written by Women. When I complete my wondrous War and Peace I am hoping to begin a new strand with that list. I'll try to get the '500' out of the way before then, juliette07! >5 wow, what a strange coincidence! #3 Juliette: I agree completely. I too have always read but my reading was stagnating, carrying on within safe and fairly predictable parameters. When I discovered LT, it revived and revitalised as I saw what others were reading, read wonderful reviews, and began to branch out into global literature. I have 'met' some extraordinary readers through this wonderful vehicle and am deeply grateful for it. I agree with tiffin that LT is a great site. I was thinking of posting asking for some suggestions about books by women who wrote about writing, but when I stopped to look at what I had I thought I would run it past the message board instead. I stopped because the idea of women writing about writing is a new fad in my eyes and writing was more a section of an autobiography. A writer would talk about childhood stories or things that led them down the path to writing. One of my fav is Bird by Bird by Anne Lamont. It is funny because I am not a fan of some of her other stories ( I may not have had enough worldly experience to understand her grievences), but I love this one. Any thoughts? Jan 20, 2008, 2:08pm (top)Message 10: juliette07Hi yareader2 - I have something that may interest you although it is not strictly women writing about writing. This list was found by another LT friend 'writestuff'. She then found out some more and posted it on a blog, see below. "Erica Jong did a survey in 1996. asking thirty prominent male authors to put together a list of 100 influential female writers, in contrast to the male-majority Modern Library list. If you go to the link below you will find the list. It is called "100 Influential Modern Novels Written by Women." http://thelists-booksfortheobsessiveread... Jan 20, 2008, 4:20pm (top)Message 11: yareader2Thanks juliette07. That really blew my mind. I felt so small like Alice in Wonderland. I think I'll need to read for a few decades before I qualify to visit there again. Jan 20, 2008, 4:57pm (top)Message 12: avalandjuliette07, is there a reason Ms. Jong asked only male authors? and influential to whom? men? women? (do they dare speak for women?). At some point I'll google around and see if we can find out the motives behind the survey. Without the context in which the idea sprung, I am left to only note facetiously that "goodie, it's ok to read women's fiction now; it's been validated by men." :-) How would a list constructed by women's votes be different? Hmmm. Jan 20, 2008, 5:25pm (top)Message 13: juliette07I couldn't agree more avaland. When I read that it had been completed by men my heart sunk. The list was originally posted and then writestuff did some research as she says on the link I gave. Her contact whose name I can't remember is also on that list so she may be worth 'looking up'! Perhaps we LT women could construct a list ??? Jan 20, 2008, 6:42pm (top)Message 14: mariethereseI wonder if Jong asked only male writers to participate in the survey as a sort of contrast or addendum to lists like 500 Great Books by Women and other female compiled listings of women-authored books. These sorts of lists were fairly popular at the time that Jong ran her survey (the 500 volume was published in 1994) and she may have viewed her list as a way of pointing out that female-authored fiction matters to everyone, whatever their sex or gender. "Ghettoization" of art by socially marginalized groups was a very hot topic in the late 80s and throughout the 1990s and she may well have had this controversy (which raged across the artistic spectrum although it was especially heated in the visual arts community) in mind when she set out to compile this poll. Just my .02 cents... Jan 20, 2008, 6:54pm (top)Message 15: A_musingI now know why Jong shows up on the list. I like the idea of coming up with our own LT list, but need it be limited to LT women? (Might be interesting to see if there are male/female differences - I suspect there are.) But the phrasing of the question is important: is it books that have most influenced the person responding, or books the person responding THINKS have been most influential in society broadly? If I talked about books that influenced me, for example, Rossetti would be very high on my list, Austen very low. But I'd reverse that if I'm assessing broader influence. Message edited by its author, Jan 20, 2008, 6:57pm. Jan 20, 2008, 7:55pm (top)Message 16: mariethereseI see that Stevie Smith's Novel on yellow paper shows up on the Jong compiled list. That reminds me that one of the Guardian Books blog's few intelligent and credible regular contributors*, Lee Rourke, posted a nice piece on Stevie Smith's novels last week, which I meant to share here: The Beautiful Melancholy of Stevie Smith *The majority of the semi-regular bloggers there write with all the depth, intellect and critical expertise of a drunken university student fiddling around on MySpace. Thank heavens for the guest bloggers and Rourke! Message edited by its author, Jan 20, 2008, 7:55pm. Jan 20, 2008, 9:48pm (top)Message 17: aluvalibriThank you, marietherese. I guess my next Virago will be one of the two by Stevie Smith I own. Message edited by its author, Jan 20, 2008, 9:48pm. Jan 20, 2008, 11:15pm (top)Message 18: yareader2You know what I have learned from women authors? One person's fantasy is another person's reality. Jan 21, 2008, 8:22am (top)Message 19: avaland>14 good points, marietherese. I don't remember the trends to these kinds of lists but then again I was more than a little distracted at the time. >15 Influence is an interesting word. Influenced how? Feb 11, 2008, 11:28am (top)Message 20: avalandI came across this nice article on Angela Carter this morning: http://www.latimes.com/features/books/la... Feb 21, 2008, 12:54pm (top)Message 21: lindsaclI just wanted to say that the "theme reads" are really shaping up to be something great! There are so many wonderful selections being proposed for each month that I could see this becoming an integral part of my reading plan. Excellent idea! Mar 26, 2008, 3:41pm (top)Message 22: avalandwooooweee! we have 200 members now! Mar 27, 2008, 6:32am (top)Message 23: LizT*waves* I'm one of the new ones! Drawn in by the group reads :-) I think the name had distracted me a bit before (I'm afraid I had visions of reams of chick-lit & nothing else!), but given that I love reading about women in literature and books *by* women, it seems this would be a not inappropriate place for me to be. I'm plotting my April read as I type...! Mar 27, 2008, 7:49am (top)Message 24: aluvalibriLizT, you rock! Welcome!!!!!!!! Mar 27, 2008, 12:29pm (top)Message 25: fannypriceWow, I just checked out the list referred to in post #10 above (catching up here...) and I am really surprised by the results - especially the fact that Interview with the Vampire clocks in at #2. Maybe I'm just a snob, but to me, this was a fun book that I read once as a youngster because I was in love with vampires and once as an older person recovering from appendicitis, but I would NEVER say that it was particularly inspiring or influential to me. And that its more influential than anything written by Virginia Woolf or Margaret Atwood? Sigh.... Mar 27, 2008, 12:41pm (top)Message 26: aluvalibrifannyprice, I heartily agree with you. The only book by Anne Rice I ever read was The witching hour, which I must say I kind of enjoyed. I never felt the urge of reading any of the others, though, and definitely did not consider it influential. Mar 27, 2008, 12:51pm (top)Message 27: fannyprice>26, I tried to read The Witching Hour but got really turned off by the constant descriptions of how hot the main character was and all the sex. :) I'm a prude, somewhat (blush).... Mar 31, 2008, 4:46pm (top)Message 28: LizTAs a slight counter to the above (slightly bizarre in places) list, Women's Hour on Radio 4 did a Women's Watershed Fiction list, a little like the BBC's Big Read in that it was voted for by the listeners. It's possibly a little predictable and classic-heavy in places, but it's slightly more encouraging I feel... ETA: although it appears that at least some aren't actually by women, so now I'm wondering what their definition of women's fiction was.... Message edited by its author, Mar 31, 2008, 4:47pm. Mar 31, 2008, 8:42pm (top)Message 29: mariethereseLizT, I found this on the website: "Woman's Hour invites you to nominate the novel which has spoken to you on a personal level. It may have changed the way you look at yourself or simply made you happy to be a woman. As a man, it may have affected your understanding of the women in your life. Your selection can be written by a man or a woman, in this country or abroad, as long as it touched your life in some way." Strange criteria to my way of thinking, but apparently this generated enough interest and they received sufficient nominations to come up with the list you posted above. Apr 1, 2008, 1:29pm (top)Message 30: yareader2I have a new heroine in my life and her name is Lillian Florence Hellman. I don't care about politics or her personal life, just her words. Yes, I know she was friends with the great Dashiell Hammett and was very influenced by him. I feel she was magnificent at placing words down to describe the scenes she witnessed through her own eyes. Apr 1, 2008, 2:32pm (top)Message 31: aluvalibriGood for you, yareader2! I agree totally and compliment you for the excellent choice. :-)) Apr 4, 2008, 4:04pm (top)Message 32: avalandI really am going to contribute to the women and beauty thread but I've gotten distracted by...er...books. And now a new Joyce Carol Oates is here in my lap...how can I resist? Apr 4, 2008, 10:05pm (top)Message 33: yareader2Anyone ever read anything by Pat Barker? She interests me. Apr 4, 2008, 11:44pm (top)Message 34: christiguc>33 After looking at her author page, I can now safely say that no, unfortunately I have not read anything by her. I see that three of her books (Union Street, Blow Your House Down, and Liza's England) are vmc's, so if you don't find anyone here who has read her, you might try asking in the Virago Modern Classics group. Apr 5, 2008, 7:14am (top)Message 35: LizTyareader2, I recently got a copy of her Regeneration trilogy, having had it recommended to me in glowing terms a few years ago. The first book in the trilogy won the Booker Prize (although I realise that varies from person to person as to whether that's a recommendation or not!) Apr 5, 2008, 10:26am (top)Message 36: yareader2thanks. I will read her books. I am glad she was recognized with the Booker Prize and I think she will always have her faithful followers. I have another woman writer that truely amazes me, Rebecca Goldstein. When I grow up... Apr 5, 2008, 10:34am (top)Message 37: teelgeeyareader2 - I just read Life Class a couple weeks ago. I did like it, though wouldn't count it as a favorite. I plan to read her Regeneration Trilogy at some point, as it's come very highly recommended, but need to get some distance from war stories for awhile. You can read my review of Life Class on my blog. Message edited by its author, Apr 5, 2008, 10:35am. Apr 5, 2008, 11:04am (top)Message 38: almigwinThis is a quote from the current Guardian article by Alexander mcCall Smith about Barbara PYm. I am quoting it here because the thought about novels touching our capacity for human sympathy is incredibly important, and most of the reason I read novels and believe they are important. "If it is a mark of a great novel that it should help us to feel for others, that it should touch our human capacity for sympathy in an important way, then Excellent Women, a novel that on one level is about very little, is a great novel about a great deal." Apr 5, 2008, 1:09pm (top)Message 39: juliette07yareader2 Pat Barker - excellent but read a while ago. Regeneration Trilogy highly recommended. Apr 6, 2008, 8:58am (top)Message 40: oh2readIn reference to the women and beauty group read this month, I have found, totally by accident, two books that might be options for someone. The Thirteenth Tale by Diane Setterfield The Master of All Desires by Judith Merkle Riley A Long Fatal Love Chase by Louisa May Alcott Sorry I added the third b/c I had found it on my shelf, TBR, and it fits also. Apr 16, 2008, 1:31pm (top)Message 41: avalandI keep running into readers who are thinking about reading or rereading The Handmaid's Tale (or looking for a good excuse to read or reread), so I'm sending everyone over to THIS THREAD on the Atwoodians group (you can post without being a member). Once we come up with a month (May?), we can make it official there. May 2, 2008, 9:01am (top)Message 42: avalandHelp save Edith Wharton's "The Mount"! The Mount is facing imminent foreclosure and the possibility this property could be no longer available to the public. Click HERE for more information, and then click through to the regular website and see just what a fabulous restoration project this has been. I used to live just up the street from this property back in the 70s and was thrilled to see it restored. As an Edith Wharton fan I felt compelled to make a pledge (they won't call in the pledges unless they can make the whole agreement with the creditors goes through). Please consider making a pledge to save this beautiful property. May 7, 2008, 5:22pm (top)Message 43: CariolaI made a pledge a few days ago. Haven't ever been there but would love to go some day. May 7, 2008, 7:45pm (top)Message 44: aluvalibriSo did I, Cariola. I was in Massachusetts last weekend and, unfortunately, the Mount was still closed. They will open this coming weekend (my luck!). May 9, 2008, 4:17pm (top)Message 45: yareader2is this a good place to talk about romance novels/novellas? Or can someone point me in the right direction on LT to talk about women romance writers. Thanks May 9, 2008, 7:06pm (top)Message 46: christiguc>45 For a group dedicated specifically to the romance genre, check here. That being said, romance written by women can certainly be discussed here. May 9, 2008, 7:09pm (top)Message 47: yareader2Thanks christiguc. I'll try that group. It is just that it is such fluff compared to what is discussed here. May 20, 2008, 4:50pm (top)Message 48: bleurosesI've been part of this most excellent group for ages but haven't spent much time here. Just beginning to read through these threads and hope to keep up with the lot of you! Daunting, yet inspiring indeed. Jun 2, 2008, 4:23pm (top)Message 49: avalandFor those who might be interested, The Atwoodians group will be following up their reading of The Handmaid's Tale with Oryx and Crake for a summer group read. Discussion will begin in August. Jul 2, 2008, 11:44am (top)Message 50: sussabmaxHey, I just found this group, and I am so glad to see it. Glad, but terrified about what this will do to my TBR list! It can't be that bad, though, because I am buying a house, and I can't be running out to buy more books for a while. There is always the library, though.... I have already found many lists of books I would like to work my way through. Lots of great literature here! I am looking forward to exploring this group more. Jul 4, 2008, 9:39am (top)Message 51: avaland>50 It will be VERY BAD for your TBR pile (or list, as the case may be)! Jul 5, 2008, 5:21am (top)Message 52: juliette07Friends - and welcome sussabmax - how has the July theme read started for you? How is your theme read going? Not sure which book to read? Eager to share your thoughts? We look forward to seeing you over at the July - women and religion/spirituality discussion thread. Jul 8, 2008, 7:30am (top)Message 53: amandamealeI haven't been here for ages. So much has happened, so many threads, my head is spinning... Jul 8, 2008, 7:34am (top)Message 54: lindsacl* waves * It's nice to see you here Amanda! Jul 8, 2008, 8:36am (top)Message 55: juliette07Welcome back Amanda - nice to see you :) Jul 8, 2008, 9:15am (top)Message 56: avalandjust take it one thread at a time. . . Jul 11, 2008, 1:25pm (top)Message 57: jhedlundI'm a newbie to this group, and I couldn't find what the theme read is for August. Anyone?? Thanks! Jul 11, 2008, 1:32pm (top)Message 58: christiguc>57 Hello--welcome to the group!! To try to give more people a chance to read and participate, we're trying lengthening the themes to two month. July's theme (women and religion) is actually the theme for July and August. So, you have time to pick a book and join the discussion with us over there! Jul 12, 2008, 3:48pm (top)Message 59: jhedlundGreat, thanks! Two months does seem like a more forgiving time frame, since I'm sure most of us have tbr piles the size of Mt. Kilamanjaro! Jul 12, 2008, 5:13pm (top)Message 60: teelgeejhedlund, yes, in fact we call them Mount TBR. Welcome! Jul 12, 2008, 10:41pm (top)Message 61: FicusFanHi all, I just joined today. I was reading this thread, and then had errands to run. I had to pick up books that I had ordered at Borders. Then I stopped by B&N - block apart, since I hadn't been there in so long. As I was wandering the aisles I saw facing out We Need to Talk About Kevin. I remembered how people talked about it in the thread, and that it was very compelling, So I picked it up. I test read a bit in the store and it seems good, Not sure I have the time in my reading schedule to do the Orange Prize, but I will look in and pick up interesting books. I am interested in the Theme for Sept/Oct - Historical fiction, which was my first book love. Jul 12, 2008, 11:30pm (top)Message 62: teelgeeFicus -- welcome to the group. I just finished ...Kevin today. It's very intense, not very pleasant but very well written. Will look forward to your thoughts. Jul 22, 2008, 3:24pm (top)Message 63: SoupdragonHi, I'm new to this group and like a previous poster had previously assumed it was all about chick-lit! And now I've missed out on an Orange July ! Oh well, there's always August. And the women/religion discussion sounds great. Must find something to read that isn't about being brought up as a catholic, rejecting the catholic faith in young adulthood and then re-embracing it in later adulthood...for a change! An extra Hi to those I recognise from the Virago group! Jul 22, 2008, 4:23pm (top)Message 64: teelgeeWelcome to the group, Soup! Sounds like some of us will be doing an Orange Summer or even an Orange year, so jump on board. Jul 22, 2008, 5:37pm (top)Message 65: englishrose60Hi Soupdragon. This is another great group. Enjoy! Jul 22, 2008, 9:28pm (top)Message 66: lindsaclHi Soupdragon! Glad to have you with us! Jul 23, 2008, 9:59am (top)Message 67: urania1#63 Soupdragon, welcome to the group. # 64 teelgee, I think it's going to be at the very least an Orange Autumn for me. Jul 23, 2008, 10:09am (top)Message 68: teelgee>67 Well, Orange Autumn is appropriate for the season. Jul 23, 2008, 12:15pm (top)Message 69: urania1# 68, Yes it is (unless you live in Tennessee) where the Big Orange (U of Tennessee football) rules. Once football season starts, orange Santa Clauses and people dressed in orange sweat suits and orange cowperson gear sashay up and down the roads doing violence to aesthetics and eyes. I shouldn't mind if the orange were a tasteful shade of orange, but violent orange . . . ack. Jul 26, 2008, 1:02pm (top)Message 70: bleurosesDropping by after a long absence! I love the Orange July, but, as urania1 said, it might be an Orange Autumn for me! (Especially since July is nearly over!) Ah, then there are those Virago Green Months too! Orange, Green....what's a girl to do!! I began We need to talk about Kevin last month but put it down. The writing is brilliant and seductive, the story wrenching to say the least. All in good time, perhaps I'll try it again. Has anyone read Shriver's other books? eta - #53, amandameale, I concur! ETA - again! Whew! I'm only half-way through the "Orange July" thread and exhausted! With thanks to avaland's Orange pages, I've already read many Orange winners already and own several unread titles. Best get started! But first, back to the OJ thread! Message edited by its author, Jul 26, 2008, 1:28pm. Jul 30, 2008, 1:47am (top)Message 71: judylouI am a bit like some others and imagined girlybooks to be *girly* books. Not what I would normally read. But I finally got up off my proverbial and actually had a look, and what do I find? Some of the most interesting conversations on LT! So, looks like you're stuck with me for now! I have so enjoyed reading the Orange July thread and only wish I had joined in earlier. Even though it is still the middle of winter, down here in Aus, maybe I will feel a little warmer if I join in to your Orange Summer! Jul 30, 2008, 9:00am (top)Message 72: teelgee>71 Dang, she found us! And we were so well disguised! ;o) Seriously, glad you're here judylou! Jul 31, 2008, 1:36am (top)Message 73: judylouI'm not that easy to lose ! Thanks for the welcome ! Aug 26, 2008, 1:58pm (top)Message 74: aluvalibriJust thought of posting here the following, in case someone might be interested. Jhumpa Lahiri will give a talk on Tuesday, September 9, 2008 at the Whitman Auditorium (Brooklyn College), 9:45 a.m. to 10:45. For information (718)951-5847. Message edited by its author, Aug 26, 2008, 2:25pm. Aug 26, 2008, 9:25pm (top)Message 75: TerrierGirl. . . and if you can, you should go! I saw Jhumpa Lahiri do a reading and talk at a wonderful independent bookstore in Chicago recently, and it was a wonderful evening. Sep 18, 2008, 8:11am (top)Message 76: avalandThe Atwoodians group is reading Surfacing for their Oct - Dec group read, if anyone would like to join us. Sep 22, 2008, 11:27am (top)Message 77: urania1I'm pissed. Routledge Press published a book last year: Gender and Narrative in the Mahabharata, which I wanted to purchase (but no more). It costs $190!!!!! Before shipping and handling!!!!! What gives? Routledge Press used to have reasonably priced scholarly works . . . on a relative scale that is. In the last year or so, they've jumped into the stratosphere. I need scones, tea, chocolate, and consolation. Sep 22, 2008, 11:30am (top)Message 78: aluvalibriI am in for scones and chocolate too!!!!!!!! Sep 22, 2008, 1:07pm (top)Message 79: juliette07Scholarly or not $190 is a lot of money. Take heart, relax and enjoy some home cooked scones from our kitchen! ![]() Message edited by its author, Sep 22, 2008, 1:10pm. Sep 22, 2008, 1:14pm (top)Message 80: christigucMight the price increase have something to do with the weak buying-power of the dollar right now? The book you mention is printed in the UK. As for shipping and handling--rest easy! ;) Routledge offers free shipping and handling for orders over $35. Sep 22, 2008, 1:18pm (top)Message 81: aluvalibriJulieeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please prepare the guest room for me! Thank you an see you as soon as my plane lands at Heathrow. ;-)) ETA: I just succumbed to my spendthrift double (the one who goes by the name of Paolina), and ordered a copy of Winter Wheat by Mildred Walker. Message edited by its author, Sep 22, 2008, 1:21pm. Sep 22, 2008, 4:00pm (top)Message 82: celiafrancesHi there, I just joined this group after finding it here on LT because the majority of the books I read are by women. Men get in now and then on the nonfiction I read, but I sometimes have to actually remind myself to pick up a novel written by a man. My TBR list is massive, and I'm sure being here will just add to it. :) I hope to contribute to discussions (and get over some of my general posting shyness--I tend to be a lurker), and this group looks great! Sep 22, 2008, 4:27pm (top)Message 83: lindsaclWelcome! I took a look at your profile and I think you'll feel at home here. You do have a couple of male favorite authors, so you're obviously open-minded. And anyone who loves both spreadsheets and chocolate is OK in my book! So one way to get over your posting shyness is to hop over to the thread, What books by and/or about women are you reading Sept., and tell us ... :-) Sep 22, 2008, 4:32pm (top)Message 84: teelgeeWelcome, celiafrances! You'll have a ball here. lindasacl spreads chocolate on her spreadsheets and licks it off. Sep 22, 2008, 5:25pm (top)Message 85: juliette07Welcome celiafrances - you will love it here. Please feel at home - we all learn so much from each other and our reading horizons are for ever being expanded, not to mention waist lines due to chocolate, scones etc ... Sep 22, 2008, 5:40pm (top)Message 86: celiafrancesThank you for the welcomes. I've just posted what I've been reading in Sept. on lindsacl's advice and found out we're reading the same book! :) Sep 22, 2008, 5:42pm (top)Message 87: lindsaclAnd I just noticed that you recently added The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society to your library. I think you'll find several of us in this group have recently read and enjoyed that one, too! Sep 22, 2008, 6:13pm (top)Message 88: aluvalibriAnd one more WELCOME, celiafrances! A woman who has The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society in her library must be cool!!!!! :-)) Sep 22, 2008, 6:20pm (top)Message 89: englishrose60A warm welcome to you celiafrances - I am sure you will have a great time here! Sep 23, 2008, 8:16am (top)Message 90: avalandDitto on the welcome, celiafrances; I hope you'll enjoy being part of this very varied group (well, charming and crazy too). Oct 1, 2008, 1:19am (top)Message 91: urania1Bonjour and welcome, celiafrances. I'm the sane one in the group. Oct 1, 2008, 3:12am (top)Message 92: teelgeeYou know, the ones who have to tell you they're sane usually aren't. Oct 2, 2008, 6:34pm (top)Message 93: TerrierGirlI'm jumping in to add my welcome, celiafrances, and I'm not touching the two previous messages with a ten-foot pole! I'm hoping to read The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society over vacation--in less than two weeks!!! Hurray! Nov 11, 2008, 11:37pm (top)Message 94: jhedlundIs there a Nov/Dec theme read? Nov 13, 2008, 8:47am (top)Message 95: avalandI don't think so. Participation has been declining so maybe we need a break? However, if you have some ideas go ahead and throw them out there. There is an Australian lit read over on Reading Globally (November) that we could parallel, and somewhere I saw a Canadian lit read scheduled for January. We could just talk about the books written by women writers. Dec 25, 2008, 1:59am (top)Message 96: englishrose60Merry Christmas everyone! Dec 25, 2008, 6:08pm (top)Message 97: urania1Merry Christmas from me too! Dec 27, 2008, 8:34pm (top)Message 98: lindsaclFrom The Guardian, a short story by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie: A Private Experience: Two women caught up in a violent street riot take shelter in an abandoned shop. Mar 31, 2009, 4:46pm (top)Message 99: avalandElaine Showalter has a new book out, but also on the Amazon page for the book is featured Ms. Showalter's "Top Ten Books by American Women Writers You Haven't Read (But Should)" http://www.amazon.com/Jury-Her-Peers-Ame... Here’s my starting guide to ten extraordinary works of fiction--one from each decade of the twentieth century--that deserve to be much better known. # The Country of Lost Borders by Mary Hunter Austin (1909) A moving collection of stories emphasizing the California landscape and the vulnerability of women, especially Native American women who were seduced and abandoned by white men in the Wild West. The memorable final story about a mysterious woman in the desert, “The Walking Woman,” is Austin’s manifesto of female independence, equality, tenderness, and sorrow. # Herland by Charlotte Perkins Gilman (1915) Gilman’s clever utopian novel imagines three American men on a scientific expedition who hear tales of a “strange and terrible Woman Land in the high distance,” and decide to find and invade it. Expecting to rule over the women, the men are astounded, entranced, and defeated by the resourcefulness of an all-female society. # The Home-Maker by Dorothy Canfield Fisher (1924) Fisher was a prolific novelist, a judge for the Book of the Month Club, and a pioneer of Montessori education in the U.S. She claimed that The Home-Maker was more about children’s rights than women’s rights, but she empathized with all the members of a middle-class family whose lives are being destroyed by the straitjacket of maintaining proper male and female roles. When an accident forces the husband and wife to change places, everyone is much happier. This could be a comic premise--Mr. Mom--but Fisher treats it with seriousness and psychological insight. # The Unpossessed by Tess Slesinger (1934) Slesinger used her disillusion with the whole cultural spectrum of the 1930s for her sparkling satire of the New York leftwing editors of a radical magazine. The novel is both a penetrating autobiographical portrait of the divided woman intellectual of the decade, painfully torn between party politics and personal emancipation; and a timeless and very funny lampoon of ideologues driven by vanity, political trendiness, and competition. # The Mountain Lion by Jean Stafford (1947) Stafford was at her best in this powerful coming-of-age novel about a young brother and sister, Ralph and Molly Fawcett, who spend their summers at their grandfather’s ranch in Colorado. While Ralph is being initiated into adventurous manhood, Molly is fiercely and tragically resisting the dull femininity which lies in store for her. # Maud Martha by Gwendolyn Brooks (1953) The only novel by the poet Gwendolyn Brooks, Maud Martha tells the story of a poor black Chicago housewife, in a lyrical form like that of Virginia Woolf’s Mrs. Dalloway, but suffused with anger against racism, war, and the daily small tragedies of black women’s lives. An American classic. # We Have Always Lived in the Castle by Shirley Jackson (1962) Long overlooked, Jackson’s masterpiece has been rediscovered in the twenty-first century by writers from Stephen King and Jonathan Lethem to Joyce Carol Oates. A perfectly constructed and spine-chilling example of the female gothic, the novel was among the first great stories of the weird girl, part teenage outcast, part witch, as a dark heroine of American horror. # The Shadow Knows by Diane Johnson (1974) While Diane Johnson’s novels about Americans in Paris (such as Le Divorce) have been bestsellers, The Shadow Knows is my favorite among her books. Set in Northern California in the early 1970s, it is about the racial conflict and paranoia of the decade, and, in Johnson’s words, “about persons on the fringe; they happen to be women, and what happens to them is meant to be particular to America in the seventies.” # Housekeeping by Marilynne Robinson (1980) In her first novel, Pulitzer-Prize winning writer Robinson traced the lives of three generations of women in the imaginary Idaho town of Fingerbone, which is surrounded by mountains and next to a dark lake. The narrator, Ruth, and her sister, Lucille, are passed from one family caregiver to another; finally, their aunt Sylvie Fisher, a wanderer and transient, comes back to keep house for them. But Sylvie’s bizarre housekeeping is like something out of a gothic fairy tale, and the sisters find their separate ways to create their own domestic visions. # Mona in the Promised Land by Gish Jen (1996) Gish Jen is one of the funniest and most free-wheeling novelists of the multicultural 90s. In Mona in the Promised Land, whose title plays off a long tradition of Jewish-American immigrant writing, the adolescent Chinese-American heroine Mona Chang is at a new stage of ethnic identity, renaming and self-creation. In their own enclave, she and her high school friends exchange food, music, games, and politics. In the promised land, American girls can change their names, their religions, even re-invent their nationalities. (Having read her A Literature of Their Own some time ago and skimmed it again in the last few weeks, I am just going to have to have the new one!) Mar 31, 2009, 5:00pm (top)Message 100: aluvalibriLois, the new Showalter has been on my Amazon wish list for a while. I am waiting for it to become cheaper. Mar 31, 2009, 5:37pm (top)Message 101: celiafrances>99: Well I'm lacking with only having read two of those (Herland and We Have Always Lived in the Castle). I have Housekeeping but have yet to read it. Thanks for the list! Mar 31, 2009, 5:42pm (top)Message 102: NickeliniHey, how does she know I haven't read those? She's right, but how does she know? I have at least heard of most of them though. (printing off yet another list . . . ). Thanks, Lois! Mar 31, 2009, 7:12pm (top)Message 103: avaland>100 Isn't it under $20 on Amazon? It's over 600 pages (thus, I want it in hardcover). >101 I have read the same two as you, but have read other novels by Gish Jen. There are certainly a couple of the names on the list I'm not familiar with. I'm picking up the book tomorrow (the store says I have four books in, so I ought to go anyway...) Mar 31, 2009, 8:23pm (top)Message 104: aluvalibriI am almost convinced, Lois......(not that you have to twist my arm or anything, by the way) Mar 31, 2009, 10:19pm (top)Message 105: avalandHere's an interview with Showalter about the book: http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/displ... Here's Maureen Corrigan review of the book on NPR's "Fresh Air" http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story... The review is also in text on the page and there is an excerpt of the book there. Message edited by its author, Mar 31, 2009, 10:26pm. Apr 2, 2009, 9:05am (top)Message 106: avalandThe Impac Dublin international literary prize just announced their shortlist and there was not one female-authored book on the list. Not one. What century are we in? (sorry, I just needed a place to come throw some balls against the wall in frustration). Apr 2, 2009, 12:07pm (top)Message 107: englishrose60I totally agree with you! Sending a cannonball over! Are there any females on the panel, I wonder? Apr 2, 2009, 12:07pm (top)Message 108: jhedlund#99 - Wow, I'm chagrined that I haven't read a single book on that list. My wishlist is going to get larger (soon it will topple over on me). Perhaps Girlybooks should do a group read of one or two of them this year?? Thanks for sharing! Apr 2, 2009, 12:14pm (top)Message 109: englishrose60I have only read Herland when I was on a science fiction spree. I thought it was very good. Apr 2, 2009, 7:15pm (top)Message 110: avaland>108 I'm now waiting for the UK, AU & CA equivalents of that book... Apr 12, 2009, 6:33pm (top)Message 111: avalandI started a group for Joyce Carol Oates fans HERE, if anyone is interested. I don't expect it to be very active, but it's nice to be among one's own kind:-) Apr 15, 2009, 2:20pm (top)Message 112: EssaI've read bits of threads on this group for ages, then "Watched" the group for awhile, and finally bit the bullet and joined (despite the potential dangers of overloading my already-huge to-read list). :) I tend to be especially interested in the Middle East, and in non-fiction, but I like a variety of things and try not to limit myself to one genre, place or time period. Apr 15, 2009, 2:44pm (top)Message 113: janeajonesWelcome, Essa -- enjoy! Apr 21, 2009, 1:38am (top)Message 114: oldblackPleased to see a "Girlybook" winning the Pulitzer! Olive Kitteridge by Elizabeth Strout A very worthy winner IMHO. Apr 24, 2009, 3:02pm (top)Message 115: avalandwelcome, Essa, fresh literary blood is always good! >114 yes, very refreshing. Apr 28, 2009, 10:52am (top)Message 116: AquariusNatHiya ! After occassionally watching the threads in this group I've finally decided to join . Can't wait to add to my TBR pile , lol ! Apr 29, 2009, 9:05am (top)Message 117: avalandIf anyone here is reading through or dipping into Elaine Showalter's A Jury of Her Peers: American Women Writers from Anne Bradstreet to Annie Proulx, I've started a discussion thread for it over on Club Read HERE. I thought about starting it here, but in the end, I thought (or rather hoped) to have more men participating or watching the thread. Anyway, all are welcome (and I would not be opposed to cross-posting if some preferred a discussion here). Apr 30, 2009, 1:11pm (top)Message 118: janeajonesBritain may have its first female poet laureate: http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/apr... Apr 30, 2009, 1:49pm (top)Message 119: CariolaHooray! Her poems are wonderful. May 1, 2009, 4:06am (top)Message 120: englishrose60Great news! May 1, 2009, 7:02am (top)Message 121: aluvalibriIt is fantastic news indeed! I had read her poem "Mrs Scrooge" a while ago, when the Guardian published it, and really really liked it. I am so happy a woman is poet laureate! YAY!!!!! May 3, 2009, 10:05am (top)Message 122: avalandLove Carol Ann Duffy! Hurray for her! Hurray for us! May 13, 2009, 4:41pm (top)Message 123: theaelizabetHi everyone. This is a rather last minute appeal. It seems that "The Orchard House" in Concord, MA where Louisa May Alcott wrote Little Women and where she and her sisters really did perform plays in the dining room and parlor (just as in the book), and where her older sister was married (just like Meg) and where her younger sister (the model for Amy) used the walls and woodwork of the house as her canvas, is in dire shape. (You can find out more about the house here: http://www.concordma.com/blog/2009/05/yo...) Until May 17, anyone can vote at the American Express/Partners in Preservation/Greater Boston Initialtive website so that "Orchard House" may receive up to $1 million in preservation grant money. If you're interested in helping go here: http://www.partnersinpreservation.com/bo..., register to vote and vote once daily. As of now, The Orchard House is pretty far down the list of 25. My family and I visited the house last November. It's a fascinating site, filled not only with memories of Alcott, but also of the local mid-19th century Transcendalist folks, including Bronson Alcott. May 13, 2009, 9:26pm (top)Message 124: janeajonesI just voted. You might also want to put your message on the Virago Modern Classics' Porch for April and May -- I think there are a lot of Alcott lovers there too. May 13, 2009, 9:37pm (top)Message 125: aluvalibriI voted too. May 13, 2009, 9:39pm (top)Message 126: theaelizabetThanks, janeajones. I'll give that a try. May 13, 2009, 10:10pm (top)Message 127: CariolaMe, too. Wonder if the numbers are changing? I thought it was interesting that the Boston Cyclorama building is high on the list. Seems it was built to hold the visiting Gettysburg cyclorama--which was just restored last year and mounted in the new Vsitor Center in Gettysburg. May 14, 2009, 7:32pm (top)Message 128: avaland>123 I was there last October (which is kind of sad because I live about 9 miles away). May 14, 2009, 7:50pm (top)Message 129: janeajonesRemember that you can vote every day. May 14, 2009, 8:03pm (top)Message 130: CariolaI'm feeling kind of sad for the Old North Church (0%). May 15, 2009, 9:53am (top)Message 131: avalandGreat article from the Guardian by Elaine Showalter re: American women novelists today. http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/may... May 15, 2009, 5:41pm (top)Message 132: juliette07Thanks avaland - really interesting - I must make time to read it here instead of always waiting for you to post the good bits!!!! Jun 3, 2009, 5:15pm (top)Message 133: teelgeeMarilynne Robinson is the unanimous winner of this year's Orange Prize Award for Fiction for Home. Francesca Kay is the winner of the Orange Award for New Writers for An Equal Stillness. Jun 6, 2009, 1:44am (top)Message 134: KimBNow that this years Orange Prize Winner has been announced, I'm getting excited about "Orange July". I dont have a copy of the 2009 winner or any on the shortlist, however, in my library I've tagged some of the previous years winners and shortlisted books as "Orange July 2009". Looking forward to July :-) Hope I get time to read all of the ones I've tagged. Looking forward to the discussions on the Orange July 2009 Thread. The Orange January and previous July's threads were great. Jun 6, 2009, 2:38am (top)Message 135: teelgeeI jumped the Orange gun a bit and am reading The Wilderness by Samantha Harvey. Had it on hold at the library and it came sooner than I expected. It was short listed; I've heard great things about it. Yup, July will be good -- I have about eight books picked out for it! Jun 6, 2009, 6:36am (top)Message 136: lindsaclI'd like to read Home as part of Orange July but haven't read Gilead yet. I understand the two books are related. Does anyone know ... is it important to read Gilead first? Jun 6, 2009, 11:47am (top)Message 137: teelgeelindsacl, my understanding is the characters overlap but they're not necessarily consecutive reads. I think you can do them independently. (Don't quote me on this though!) Jun 9, 2009, 2:15am (top)Message 138: JolieLouiseI jumped the gun, too, Teelgee. I recently finished A Crime in the Neighborhood by Suzanne Berne which was one of the Orange Prize winners. I wasn't too sure about it until the last third of the book when it really took off. It wasn't bad. Not up to the standards of We Need to Talk About Kevin or Bel Canto but, still, o.k. I gave it 4 stars. I recently made a list, to take with me to the bookstore, of the Orange winners, shortlisted books, and longlisted books. The other day I bought Half of a Yellow Sun by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie which is spoken of very favorably on LT. I also have (and have not yet read): The Poisonwood Bible by Barbara Kingsolver Paradise by Toni Morrison La Cucina by Lily Prior The Little Friend by Donna Tartt and The Inheritance of Loss by Kiran Desai I won't be able to read all of these in July since I'm a pretty slow reader. I'm going to a bookstore tomorrow (don't you love it when you know you have a trip to the bookstore planned for a certain day?). We'll see which other Orange books I end up with. I'll let you know. Jun 9, 2009, 6:31pm (top)Message 139: sussabmaxOh, I need to make a list and start accumulating! I am glad this popped up on my list to remind me. Jun 10, 2009, 6:45am (top)Message 140: JolieLouiseSo, I did end up buying another Orange book, yesterday, at Barnes and Noble. I bought The Outcast by Sadie Jones which was an Orange Shortlist selection. Jun 15, 2009, 4:07am (top)Message 141: charbuttonFor Brits only (unless those outside the UK can access programmes on BBC iplayer)... Elaine Showalter is a guest on today's edition of Start the Week on Radio 4. The website says: 'The title for Elaine Showalter’s latest book, A Jury of Her Peers, comes from a short story written by Susan Glaspell in 1917. The story questions what is meant by our peers, leading Showalter to debate representation in our juries.' I'm listening and she hasn't been on yet! Jun 15, 2009, 6:09am (top)Message 142: KimBmrstreme has created The Orange July 2009 Thread. Come one and come all, I'd highly recommend this reading event, we've had a great time with the previous ones. Jul 6, 2009, 8:33pm (top)Message 143: avaland>141 Sorry, I missed that Char. btw, one of two Jodi Picoult novels I have read, Plain Truth is a novel also about what is meant by a jury of our peers. In this case, the person on trial is a young Amish woman. Sep 23, 2009, 6:53pm (top)Message 144: KimBOur dear avaland and a host of LTers and others have created an amazing web-azine, to celebrate works by women authors from all around the world. It's called Belletrisa and it has it's own LT library, of course ;-) It is non-profit but I can see my book buying going sky high from now on. The River Wife is next on my list because I loved The Butterfly Man. Edited to correct pesky T-stones Message edited by its author, Sep 23, 2009, 6:56pm. Sep 24, 2009, 10:42am (top)Message 145: christigucThere is the start of a discussion here on LT about defining women's literature in case any of you all want to weigh in. Sep 24, 2009, 11:20am (top)Message 146: teelgeeThanks KimB - I kept meaning to plug Belletrista here. I'll second that it's amazing and wonderful too. Sep 24, 2009, 12:51pm (top)Message 147: EssaWow, the Belletrista site looks great! Although I fear for my already over-burdened budget/reading list/day planner. Oh, well ... who needs money. Or sleep. :D Thanks for sharing the link. :) Thanks for the plug, gals! *scurries away to get back to working on the 2nd issue*
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