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drneutron's (Jim's) Reading to Avoid Work - Chapter 1

75 Books Challenge for 2018

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1drneutron
Edited: Dec 26, 2017, 10:05am Top

I'm Jim, 54, husband of 32 years, father of a son in a PhD program in Comp Sci at Notre Dame, who reads pretty much anything. We're in central Maryland with roots in Louisiana. I like to read (obviously), cook, want to learn to fly fish, and trail bike riding/kayaking with mrsdrneutron. Of course, LT is a big time sink, but mrsdrneutron seems to have come to terms with my LT addiction...

2drneutron
Dec 26, 2017, 10:06am Top

Reserved for 2016 wrap-up - Coming soon!

3calm
Dec 26, 2017, 10:34am Top

Thanks for setting up the group Jim. See you in 2018.

4drneutron
Dec 26, 2017, 10:38am Top

Thanks! And congrats to you for being the first to find the new group (besides me, who created the thing...)! 😁

5calm
Dec 26, 2017, 10:40am Top

I was just here at the right time :) Not setting up a thread until 2018 though.

6The_Hibernator
Dec 26, 2017, 10:46am Top

Found you! Happy Boxing Day!

7drneutron
Dec 26, 2017, 11:15am Top

>6 The_Hibernator: Welcome back!

8ronincats
Dec 26, 2017, 11:21am Top

Boxing Day it is! Hope the spaceship is coming along, Jim. Thanks for getting us set up here.

9drneutron
Dec 26, 2017, 11:25am Top

>8 ronincats: Spacecraft testing is often long periods of boredom punctuated by moments of terror. I'm using this time to set up the group while keeping an eye on a dozen people in the cleanroom who are pulling the avionics box out of the inside of the spacecraft so we can make a repair. We lost a couple of weeks of schedule, but are making it up. Plus the thing will hopefully work after launch! 😁

10Crazymamie
Dec 26, 2017, 11:58am Top

Dropping a star! Thanks so much for setting up the group, Jim.

11drneutron
Dec 26, 2017, 11:59am Top

Hi yah, Mamie! Glad you found us!

12Ameise1
Dec 26, 2017, 12:27pm Top

Thanks so much for keeping this group going, Jim. Happy reading 2018.

13elliepotten
Dec 26, 2017, 12:55pm Top

See you on the other side of the New Year Jim! Here's to a great 2018. *clinks coffee mugs*

14drneutron
Dec 26, 2017, 1:03pm Top

>12 Ameise1: Thanks! I hope you've got a great year of reading ahead of you.

>13 elliepotten: Cheers!

15charl08
Dec 26, 2017, 1:27pm Top

Thanks for setting us up again Jim!

>9 drneutron: Sounds complicated! Hope it all goes well.

16richardderus
Dec 26, 2017, 2:03pm Top

Thank you for all you do, Jim, and for doing it again this year.

17drneutron
Dec 26, 2017, 2:10pm Top

>15 charl08: So far, so good, though we haven't found a problem yet. But really, I'd rather not until we get on the bench, since we think we know what's going on. If we're wrong, the problem gets a lot harder. 😁

>16 richardderus: No prob! It's been my pleasure to get and keep things rolling. Plus as mentioned above, wee had a lot of down time during operations, so I've had a chance to concentrate on the new group setup.

18avatiakh
Dec 26, 2017, 2:30pm Top

Thanks for setting up the new group and for all the work you've done this past year.

19BBGirl55
Dec 26, 2017, 2:40pm Top

Well hello. Have a *

20drneutron
Dec 26, 2017, 2:47pm Top

>18 avatiakh: It's been my pleasure!

>19 BBGirl55: Right back atcha!

21Familyhistorian
Dec 26, 2017, 5:29pm Top

Thanks for setting us up for another year, Jim. Strange to think that you are at work, this is a stat holiday for us (well not if you work in a store of course, where it is probably a madhouse). I hope everything turns out well, workwise.

22Berly
Dec 26, 2017, 5:51pm Top



Starred again!!

23EllaTim
Dec 26, 2017, 7:18pm Top

Hi Jim, thanks for getting us all set up again!

And adding my star.

24drneutron
Edited: Dec 26, 2017, 7:22pm Top

>21 Familyhistorian: Everything went pretty well today - though we didn’t find a smoking gun. But we’ll figure i5 out. 😀

>22 Berly: Awesome!

>23 EllaTim: No prob! Welcome to my thread!

25jessibud2
Dec 26, 2017, 8:35pm Top

What Ella said in >23 EllaTim: ! :-)

26drneutron
Dec 26, 2017, 8:40pm Top

Welcome to my digs, Shelley!

27SomeGuyInVirginia
Dec 26, 2017, 10:28pm Top

I'm in! Happy Boxing Day!

28Eyejaybee
Dec 27, 2017, 8:02am Top

Best wishes for a great year, Jim - both reading and in everything else.
Thanks for setting upi the Group.

29libraryperilous
Dec 27, 2017, 10:41am Top

Popping in to mark your thread. I hope 2018 is a successful reading year for you, and that your fly-fishing goal is met.

30RebaRelishesReading
Dec 27, 2017, 10:50am Top

Thanks for making this happen again!

31drneutron
Dec 27, 2017, 10:53am Top

>27 SomeGuyInVirginia:, >28 Eyejaybee: Glad you stopped by!

>29 libraryperilous: Thanks! I'm gonna get to it someday soon, though this year may be dicey given the spacecraft launch later this year. After then, though, I plan to slow some things down a bit.

>30 RebaRelishesReading: My pleasure!

32witchyrichy
Dec 27, 2017, 11:53am Top

Coming by to drop my star and wish you a happy new year!

33drneutron
Dec 27, 2017, 12:04pm Top

Welcome!

34SqueakyChu
Edited: Dec 27, 2017, 1:07pm Top

Happy New Year, JIm. Once again, thank you so much for running this fabulous group. I have you partially to thank for the friends I've made in real life here on the 75 group. My very last meetup was here in DC with _Zoe_, norabelle414, and radicarian. It is lovely to get to see everyone. I'm planning a Philly area meetup for May. I'll keep everyone posted on this. I hope to see you and your wife this year. Hope all is going well with your son.

35drneutron
Dec 27, 2017, 1:52pm Top

Yup, the son's doing well. We've had him home for about a week now, should be here for another. It's been nice having here for Christmas!

36johnsimpson
Dec 27, 2017, 4:55pm Top

Hi Jim, thanks for setting the group up again mate.

37SuziQoregon
Dec 27, 2017, 5:47pm Top

Hi Jim! Looking forward to another great year. Thanks for all the work you do here.

38maggie1944
Edited: Dec 28, 2017, 9:14am Top

Stopping by to say Thanks! and dropping a star or more. A new year on the calendar always gives me an excuse to say I'm trying harder to do better.

We, here, do just fine, tho .... don't we. Much gratitude sent in your direction because clearly you are big reason the group continues to thrive!

39tapestry100
Dec 28, 2017, 11:04am Top



Just stopping in to drop a star and wish you a happy new year!

40mstrust
Dec 28, 2017, 11:15am Top

Happy New Year and happy new thread, Jim! Thanks for setting everything up!

41dragonaria
Dec 28, 2017, 12:30pm Top

*Bling* star dropping! Adding my thanks for your thread wrangling skills (ha! makes you sound like a weaver) and happy high hopes for spacecraft/fly fishing/whatnot success!

42thornton37814
Edited: Dec 28, 2017, 2:48pm Top

Many happy reads in 2018!

43drneutron
Dec 28, 2017, 5:05pm Top

>36 johnsimpson: Hey, John!

>37 SuziQoregon: Hey! My pleasure!

>38 maggie1944: Aw, shucks! Thanks!

>39 tapestry100: Welcome!

>40 mstrust: My pleasure!

>41 dragonaria: Thanks! My threads getting all bling-y!

>42 thornton37814: Thanks! Welcome to the thread!

44cyderry
Dec 28, 2017, 8:20pm Top




Thanks for setting up the group!

45drneutron
Dec 28, 2017, 8:22pm Top

My pleasure!

46msf59
Dec 28, 2017, 8:23pm Top

I have to drop a star on our Fearless Leader! Lots of activity of the '18 threads all ready. Wasting no time.

47drneutron
Dec 28, 2017, 8:57pm Top

Yup, we have the number 1 and number 2 slots on the most active groups list!

48harrygbutler
Dec 28, 2017, 10:00pm Top

Hi, Jim! Wishing you good reading in 2018. Thanks for setting up the new group!

49drneutron
Dec 28, 2017, 10:31pm Top

Welcome to my thread!

50crazy4reading
Dec 29, 2017, 8:42am Top

I have been lurking around your thread for a few days, so decided to just drop in and say hello and thanks for setting this group up again this year.

51drneutron
Dec 29, 2017, 9:01am Top

Glad you came out of the shadows! 😀

52hredwards
Dec 29, 2017, 12:42pm Top

Thanks!!

53majleavy
Dec 29, 2017, 7:22pm Top

Happy New Year, Jim. Thanks for all your efforts for the group.


(Sunrise at Newgrange, Ireland)

54drneutron
Dec 29, 2017, 9:30pm Top

Beautiful pic!

55LovingLit
Dec 30, 2017, 4:11am Top

Hi Jim! Checking in to report my presence for 2018...even though I read not much on 2017, I still count it as a great reading year, probably because of all the fantastic book talk that surrounded it.

56Carmenere
Dec 30, 2017, 8:47am Top

Greetings, Jim and Happy New Year!

57drneutron
Dec 30, 2017, 10:26am Top

Thanks!

58drneutron
Dec 30, 2017, 2:02pm Top

As with last year, I made a thread where we can post summaries/stats/wrapup from 2017. You can find it at http://www.librarything.com/topic/279599 !

59SomeGuyInVirginia
Dec 30, 2017, 9:58pm Top

Doc! It only hurts when I laugh!

60drneutron
Dec 31, 2017, 9:12am Top

😀

61fuzzi
Dec 31, 2017, 10:29am Top

Starred!

62johnsimpson
Dec 31, 2017, 10:39am Top

Hi Jim, just stopping by to wish you and Danita a Very Happy New Year and hope that 2018 is a really good year, sending love and hugs to you both from both of us.

63drneutron
Dec 31, 2017, 11:18am Top

>61 fuzzi: Great!

>62 johnsimpson: Thanks very much for your thoughts and good wishes. We hope yours is also a really good 2018!

64The_Hibernator
Dec 31, 2017, 12:31pm Top



Happy New Year! I wish you to read many good books in 2018.

65drneutron
Dec 31, 2017, 12:48pm Top

Thanks! You too!

66FAMeulstee
Dec 31, 2017, 2:32pm Top

Happy reading in 2018, Jim!

And thanks for setting up the group & keeping up with us!
If you need help with the Threadbook, just let me know.

67cushlareads
Dec 31, 2017, 2:35pm Top

Happy New Year, Jim! Thank you for organising the group.

68cameling
Dec 31, 2017, 3:08pm Top

Happy new year, Jim. Dare I hope 2018 will bring you and your lovely wife into my neck of the woods again?

69SomeGuyInVirginia
Dec 31, 2017, 3:15pm Top

Happy New Year, Doc!

70SandDune
Dec 31, 2017, 3:32pm Top

Happy New Year!

71BBGirl55
Dec 31, 2017, 4:05pm Top

Happy New Year🎉

72mstrust
Dec 31, 2017, 5:03pm Top


Hope it's a good one!

73Ameise1
Dec 31, 2017, 5:06pm Top


view from Zürich's landmark mountain Üetliberg

74mitchma
Dec 31, 2017, 6:11pm Top

Happy New Year!!!

75drneutron
Dec 31, 2017, 7:47pm Top

Thanks, everyone! Happy New Year to you too!

76rosalita
Jan 1, 12:06am Top

A very happy 2018 to you, Fearless Leader!

77ronincats
Jan 1, 12:13am Top

Dropping off a
And wishing you

78tiffin
Jan 1, 12:49am Top

Happy New Year, Jim! Starting my 10th year with the 75ers. Thanks for all you do for us.

79harrygbutler
Jan 1, 12:50am Top

Happy New Year, Jim!

80PaulCranswick
Jan 1, 3:56am Top



Happy New Year
Happy New Group here
This place is full of friends
I hope it never ends
It brew of erudition and good cheer.

81BekkaJo
Jan 1, 4:15am Top

Happy New year!

82Carmenere
Jan 1, 7:15am Top

83karenmarie
Jan 1, 8:14am Top

Hi Jim!

I'll add my thanks for your devotion to the 75ers with all the administrative work you do to make this the best group on LT.

LT is a big time sink. Don't I know it. I wonder how many more books I could read if I spent less time hanging out with everybody.

84msf59
Edited: Jan 1, 8:16am Top



^Looking forward to following our fearless leader and this incredible group for another year of books & shenanigans!

85nittnut
Jan 1, 8:56am Top


*grin*

86cbl_tn
Jan 1, 10:01am Top

Happy New Year, Jim, and thanks for getting this group up and running!

87witchyrichy
Jan 1, 11:43am Top



A picture from a warmer day and a reminder that winter is great for reading and spring will come!

88Miss_Moneypenny
Jan 1, 1:40pm Top

Happy New Year Jim! Thanks for setting us up again and happy reading!

89Berly
Jan 1, 1:44pm Top



Happy 2018!! Thanks for making this wonderful group possible! And all your nerdy science stuff, which I love. : )

90jnwelch
Jan 1, 1:45pm Top

Happy New Year, Jim!

Thank goodness mrsdrneutron has come to terms with your LT addiction. WE'd be sunk without you.

My better half makes fun of me, but also understands - and will have her own thread again this year.

91rosylibrarian
Jan 1, 2:17pm Top

92SuziQoregon
Jan 1, 3:40pm Top



Here's to good books, good conversation and good friends!

93kgodey
Jan 1, 4:15pm Top

Happy New Year, Jim! May you have some great reads in 2018.

94tymfos
Jan 1, 4:47pm Top

Happy New Year, Jim! Thank you for all your efforts setting up and maintaining this group.

Happy Reading in 2018!

95PawsforThought
Jan 1, 6:59pm Top

Happy new year! And thanks for your work in setting the group up.

96drneutron
Jan 1, 7:55pm Top

Thanks everybody! It’s been a busy day, but i’m finally getting a chance to get caught up - and get the Threadbook caught up! Finished a book this morning, will get that one in pretty quickly.

97figsfromthistle
Jan 1, 8:16pm Top

Thanks for setting up the group and Happy New Year!

98richardderus
Jan 1, 8:17pm Top

Did the probe's computer strip/replace go well?

99drneutron
Jan 1, 8:57pm Top

>97 figsfromthistle: Thanks!

>98 richardderus: Yup, so far so good. We should be able to get it back on the spacecraft in the next couple of days.

100drneutron
Jan 1, 9:15pm Top

Whew, Got all the New Year's Day new threads in. Can I just mention here that I've come to loathe Captcha? I get why LT implemented it for wiki edits, but damn it's a pain when I have lots of THreadbook updates to make... 😁

102drneutron
Jan 1, 9:38pm Top

First for the year!

1. Artemis by Andy Weir

As many of you know, I'm a space guy - physicist and spacecraft engineer. Weir's first book, The Martian, is one of my faves, so I have been looking forward to his next with anticipation. Artemis did not disappoint. It's a nicely done crime caper story in a well-done setting (with pretty accurate engineering!) with decently conceptualized characters. I've seen a few comments that Jazz didn't seem believable as a female - I can't really comment on that, except that I liked her. It won't be the best book I read this year, but I'm sure it'll be a long stretch better than the worst.

103weird_O
Jan 1, 9:43pm Top

Hi Jim. Tip of the old hat to you.

104drneutron
Jan 1, 9:44pm Top

Hiyah!

105jnwelch
Jan 1, 10:22pm Top

I liked Artemis, too, Jim. Glad to hear the engineering was pretty accurate - I wondered. He seems to do his homework. Jazz was fine by me, too.

106scaifea
Jan 2, 8:27am Top

Hi, Jim! I need to get round to Artemis soon!

107streamsong
Jan 2, 8:51am Top

Aack! Hit by an Artemis book bullet. First book on your thread, first BB for me.

Have a wonderful year of reading, Jim. And thanks for making this wonderful special haven for us all.

108rosylibrarian
Jan 2, 9:32am Top

>102 drneutron: Dang, I need to read Artemis AND his first book too AND see the movie. Jeez, already behind in 2018. :)

109PersephonesLibrary
Jan 2, 9:50am Top

110BLBera
Jan 2, 10:07am Top

Happy New Year, Jim. Thanks for keeping this group going.

111drneutron
Jan 2, 10:11am Top

>105 jnwelch: Morning, Joe! I've seen references to people reading Artemis across the group. I think it's cool!

>106 scaifea: Yes you do, missy!

>107 streamsong: I've already been picked up a couple of BBs from making my rounds yesterday/today. I'm hoping that's a good omen for the year! 😁

>108 rosylibrarian: Yup, yup! One of the things I like about Weir is that his characters are so danged positive. When bad things happen, they just get to work. My kinda people. 😁

>109 PersephonesLibrary: Thanks!

112SuziQoregon
Jan 2, 11:56am Top

>102 drneutron: I haven't decided whether or not Artemis is calling to me. I read the first chapter when it was posted online before the books release. It didn't really make me eager to continue. I'm noting your review and continuing to waver.

113vivians
Jan 2, 12:11pm Top

Hi Jim - Artemis was my first in 2018 too...I liked it but not as much as The Martian. I'm glad to hear that the science held up. I didn't understand much of it but am very impressed that Weir could present all those concepts in a plain and un-jargony manner.

114LauraBrook
Jan 2, 12:57pm Top

Happy New Year, Jim, and thank you for setting up this group once again. It's my happy place in the internet!

115drneutron
Jan 2, 1:06pm Top

>112 SuziQoregon: Well, We'll keep trying to tempt you! 😁

>113 vivians: I've heard him talk about the writing process and he has lots of help understanding the physics and chemistry, but I think he's one of those people with a real talent for communicating with non experts.

>114 LauraBrook: Thanks! It's mine too.

116brodiew2
Jan 2, 2:04pm Top

Hello Jim and Happy New year!

Sadly, I had trouble accessing Artemis in print and audio. Perhaps, I'll give it another go later in the year.

117drneutron
Jan 2, 2:05pm Top

Hiyah, Brodie! I thought it was pretty good, though as noted, not as good as The Martian. Would love to hear your thoughts on it if you get to it!

118richardderus
Jan 2, 2:08pm Top

>102 drneutron: I give Jazz one star, and add 1.5 for Weir's amazeballs ability to make me feel engineering is a plot point. It's *incredible* how hard that is, and he's done it twice now. I'll keep reading his books, but this was a disappointment to me.

119brodiew2
Jan 2, 2:08pm Top

Do you have any good recs for Physics for dummies on audio. I'm half tempted to read Tyson, but not sure about it.

120drneutron
Jan 2, 2:52pm Top

>118 richardderus: Yeah, I saw your conversation with Joe, but didn't have time to jump in over there. I can definitely see your point about Jazz being another Mark Whatney. Like Joe, I was ok with that, though I don't understand why he chose to make Jazz female if that's the case - stick with what you know...

Anyway, yeah, he's got a real talent for making the engineering real and exciting, which, yeah, is pretty incredible.

>119 brodiew2: Hmmm, these sorts of books often have diagrams and such that help with understanding, so audio may be challenging. Let me see what I can find.

121libraryperilous
Jan 2, 3:07pm Top

Grrr, I'm still on hold for Artemis. I enjoyed The Martian a lot, although I was turned off by the "cowboy libertarian in space" parts of it. I loved the science-y parts enough to overlook that.

122brodiew2
Jan 2, 3:07pm Top

Thanks, Jim. I'd be open to print as well. let me know.

123richardderus
Jan 2, 3:34pm Top

>121 libraryperilous: Maybe Artemis isn't the right read for you, I'd venture to say. Andy Weir is clearly a tech bro-cum-libertarian guy and Jazz epitomizes those (to me) unappealing qualities a little more evidently than even the Martian.

124drneutron
Jan 2, 3:39pm Top

>121 libraryperilous:, >123 richardderus: Yeah, there's a fairly strong libertarian streak running through Artemis. I wouldn't give up on it, necessarily, but eyes wide open...

125libraryperilous
Edited: Jan 2, 3:42pm Top

>123 richardderus: Ah, and ugh. Thanks for the warning. I also recall reading that Weir self-labels as "socially liberal, fiscally conservative." *eyeroll* (ETA >124 drneutron: too)

Sometimes I can finish books that strike me as misogynistic (or other unpleasant things), but sometimes there's not enough else in the story to keep my nose in the book. The latter is why the GoT books remain unread by me.

126richardderus
Jan 2, 3:43pm Top

>125 libraryperilous: That's why I left GoT behind as well. Distasteful social attitudes require something huge for me to look over or past them.

127libraryperilous
Jan 2, 3:47pm Top

>126 richardderus: omg, same, and, also, if I want the Wars of the Roses with fantasy, I'll just reread The Sunne in Splendour and imagine dragons.

128richardderus
Jan 2, 3:55pm Top

129drneutron
Jan 2, 3:58pm Top

130quondame
Jan 2, 5:20pm Top

>126 richardderus: >127 libraryperilous: I can't say GoT is actually fun for me to read, but I prefer its brutality and gore to the portrayal of women in historical novels as if they socially/politically unaware and emotionally self-indulgent ninnies. I believe the ones worth writing about were mostly hell-on-wheels.

131EBT1002
Jan 2, 5:59pm Top

Dropping off my star and wishing you all wonderful things in 2018, Jim! And looking forward to meeting you in March!

132Storeetllr
Jan 2, 6:25pm Top

>127 libraryperilous: Yes!

Hi, Jim! Thanks so much for setting up the group again this year in between getting the old spaceship ready for its jaunt to the sun.

Interesting discussion on Artemis. I started listening to the audio last year but just couldn't get into it. I have to say I was not enamored of Jazz, though I loved the character of Watney in The Martian. It didn't seem to me he was a cowboy libertarian so much as a survivor. Jazz, on the other hand - yes.

133richardderus
Jan 2, 6:26pm Top

>130 quondame: Historical inaccuracy is a bugbear of mine as well, but in fantasy worlds invented by authors I expect better than reality delivered. Or else what's the point of fiction?

134quondame
Jan 2, 7:04pm Top

>133 richardderus: Better can be a pretty wide gate. The only fantasy world I really thought was better to live in was the city in Kiki's Delivery Service and while Larry Niven might want to live on the edge of Ringworld - I asked him once - I would not. Not Middle Earth or even the future in Diamond Age. GRRM gives his characters real challenges and lets them fail (Ned Stark was too stupid to live), sometimes they grow in surprising ways, which is what I find interesting.

135richardderus
Jan 2, 8:25pm Top

>134 quondame: I take your point. I'd certainly agree that Ned Stark was an idiot, since the entirety of the fandom that I know well enough to speak to says the same thing.

136banjo123
Jan 2, 8:31pm Top

I have you starred and I am looking forward to another year of reading and friends!

137drneutron
Jan 2, 11:00pm Top

>131 EBT1002: Welcome to the madness! I’m really looking forward to the March meetup!

>132 Storeetllr: good to see you again! I’m beginning to think Joe and I are in the minority re: Jazz! 😀 Thst’s cool - if we all liked the same things the same way, life would be boring!

>133 richardderus: There’s very few fantasy worlds I’d want to live in - Spellsinger, Moonheart, one or two others. The rest? Too epic-y for me. 😀

>134 quondame:, >135 richardderus: I refuse to read the 6000+ pages of GoT we’ve got so far until I know he’s gonna finish the series... no WoT repeats! 😀

>136 banjo123: Welcome!

138quondame
Jan 3, 12:16am Top

>137 drneutron: I'd like to visit Newford, but the weather's too cold for me and I was never part of any artsy or musical crowd.

139drneutron
Jan 3, 9:04am Top

>138 quondame: Another good one! I'm somewhat musical, so I've enjoyed de Lint's look at that world.

140libraryperilous
Jan 3, 9:39am Top

>128 richardderus:, >129 drneutron: I'm here to left shark entertain you.

>132 Storeetllr: High five! Also, thanks for the alternate perspective on Artemis and Mark Watney's character. I've left it on my TBR list for the moment and will give it a go.

>130 quondame: I agree! GoT, for me, still seemed very misogynistic at its core, even though it probably was going for historical accuracy. I think we all draw bright lines in these matters, but that those lines shift as we're engaging with texts.

on your broader point, I get angry every time I think about that ridiculous Hilary Mandel comment.

141The_Hibernator
Jan 3, 10:00am Top

Oh, good! Someone that liked Artemis! I've seen so many disappointed reviews that I was thinking maybe I'd not read it very quickly. It's one of the books I got Aaron for Christmas...I guess I'll see what he thinks of it before deciding if I'm going to pick it up.

142richardderus
Jan 3, 12:23pm Top

Re Wheel of Time...just a big ol' NO from me from book 1 onwards. I suspect I'm better off giving GoT a miss as well, since I'm so averse to many of its tropes.

But hey, I've got my space operas to keep me entertained!

143drneutron
Jan 3, 12:41pm Top

Yup, and I keep catching BBs from 'em! :)

144humouress
Jan 3, 12:59pm Top

Thanks for setting up the group again, Doc and Happy New Year!

145drneutron
Jan 3, 1:19pm Top

My pleasure!

146quondame
Jan 3, 2:17pm Top

>140 libraryperilous: Misogyny isn't having horrible things happen to women, otherwise I'd never be able to read jo Clayton or Sheri Tepper but in the emotions generated by the descriptions thereof and of the eventual fates of those women. Which is why I finally stopped reading Piers Anthony and Jack Chalker before the end of the 80s. Hilary Mandel???

147witchyrichy
Jan 3, 3:25pm Top

I read the first four books of GoT and then just couldn't take it any more. As King Frederick said to Mozart in Amadeus, there were too many notes.

I only made it through the first five minutes of the TV series for the violence. Did you see the recent headlines about people who were binging the series before the last season and had forgotten the horror of the red wedding?

148drneutron
Jan 3, 4:52pm Top

mrsdrneutron and I only watched the first episode. Definitely not her thing. And I'm not committing to the books until he's done. If I'm gonna read 'em, I don't want to get to the end of thousands of pages to be left hanging. 😁

149drneutron
Jan 3, 5:11pm Top

So I've been stuck at Goddard Space Flight Center today watching the team put our avionics box back on the spacecraft. Now, food here is boring and a bit hard to come by - there's a Five Guys outside the main date, but that's gonna make the afternoon nap time. So I looks around and low and behold, there's a new place that quietly slipped into the little strip mall. Walked in, it's a Caribbean place. Run by folks from Jamaica.

I'm Saved!!! There is food to be found here!

Here's my goat curry from lunch...

150rosalita
Jan 3, 5:15pm Top

That looks tasty!

151scaifea
Jan 3, 5:17pm Top

>149 drneutron: OhmygoshthatlooksAMAZING!

152Storeetllr
Jan 3, 5:43pm Top

Mmmmm, goat curry! I haven't had goat curry since I left a job in Santa Monica back in the late 1990s (there was a great Caribbean place near my office back then). That looks amazing! I wonder if I can find a Caribbean place somewhere in Pueblo. Probably not, but I can always hope.

>140 libraryperilous: Best historical novel I have ever read, and that includes some really good ones. Also, don't read Artemis on my word because I did not enjoy it enough to finish it - yet. I probably will, though, as I own the audio version.

153drneutron
Jan 3, 7:04pm Top

>150 rosalita:, >151 scaifea: Oh, it was...

>152 Storeetllr: A friend with Jamaican roots verified the authenticity - I hope you find a place in Pueblo!

154richardderus
Jan 3, 7:31pm Top

Goat curry! YUUUMMM

I miss living in Hempstead when I think of the Jamaican joints around there.

155drneutron
Jan 3, 8:15pm Top

"Jamaican joints". Heh. Saw what you did there. 😂

156Berly
Jan 3, 8:43pm Top

Hurray for Caribbean find!! Looks positively yummy.

157libraryperilous
Jan 3, 8:46pm Top

>152 Storeetllr: Do you mean Wolf Hall? I really need to read it! But I have to be in juuuuust the right mood for historical fiction written in the present tense.

Huzzah for Caribbean food!

Well, my hold on Artemis came in, so I'll be reading it in the next few days. We'll see if I come down on our esteemed thread host's side of things.

158Storeetllr
Jan 3, 8:50pm Top

159drneutron
Jan 3, 8:51pm Top

>156 Berly: Yup, it was!

>157 libraryperilous: Hmm, no pressure on me... 😁

160drneutron
Jan 3, 9:00pm Top

Today's J. R. R. Tolkien's 126 birthday. I'm raising a 12 yr Glenlivet in his honor. That and to shed a day's worth of care... 😁

Thanks for the stories, Professor.

161libraryperilous
Jan 3, 9:08pm Top

>158 Storeetllr: Oh, yes. I loved The Sunne in Splendour so much. Team White Roses forever. I really need to read some of Ellis Peters' non-Cadfael books.

>159 drneutron: "Pressure pushing down on you ..."

>160 drneutron: Hear, hear!

162Storeetllr
Jan 3, 9:08pm Top

Oooh, I'll have to pour a glass of Glenfiddich and drink a toast to the Professor too!

163swynn
Jan 3, 9:09pm Top

>102 drneutron: I've also put off Artemis because of the mixed reviews. Your positive one gives me hope, though -- I'll probably get to it sometime this year.

164drneutron
Jan 3, 9:19pm Top

>161 libraryperilous: 🎶Bum ba bum bada bum bum🎶 - 😁

>163 swynn: Nice!

>163 swynn: Sounds good. I'll be interested in your thoughts.

165nittnut
Jan 3, 10:35pm Top

I'm happy to see mostly good things here about Artemis. My son just sent it to me in Audible. I'm going to listen just as soon as I've finished Hero of the Empire.

166richardderus
Jan 3, 10:55pm Top

>155 drneutron: heh

I raised a grateful glass to the Perfesser myownself. So glad his son stopped mining the slag heap for *more* of the damned dull dry-as-dust drivel.

*skedaddles*

167drneutron
Jan 3, 11:12pm Top

Yup, can’t agree more. Some things should be left alone.

168BekkaJo
Jan 4, 2:52am Top

>160 drneutron: Cheers!

I was given his Beren and Luthien for Christmas - can't wait (so no one dare say it's no good or I'll be sad). It's always been one of my favourite tales from The Silmarillion.

169drneutron
Jan 4, 8:12am Top

>168 BekkaJo: I've heard it's pretty good and hope you enjoy it!

170SuziQoregon
Jan 4, 10:55am Top

>149 drneutron: Yay for good food!!

171witchyrichy
Jan 4, 2:23pm Top

So glad you found good food! It's the main thing I miss living in the country: we have Italian, Chinese and fast food. It has pushed my cooking a bit. I have just discovered the joy of wonton wrappers for making lovely little packets that can be filled with lots of different inspired fillings from Asian to Mexican.

>158 Storeetllr: I haven't read as much historical fiction lately so added The Heaven Tree and A Bloody Field By Shrewsbury to the TBR pile. Didn't know Ellis Peters wrote non mysteries.

172jjmcgaffey
Jan 4, 4:32pm Top

>171 witchyrichy: Ellis Peters is Edith Pargeter - so you've got a couple of hers on your TBR right now! And I find her historical stuff just as rich, though somewhat denser, than her mysteries (either Cadfael or the more modern ones). Good reading. I just (last year) finished Ellis Peters' Shropshire - it's a weird combo of travel book, memoir (though she explicitly rejects the notion, it's still through her eyes and "how things were when I was a child" quite a bit), and...I don't know, geology/geography book? I enjoyed it, and it made me really want to go back there and visit again, book in hand. Lovely bits that reference where she got story scenes/settings from, too.

173ChelleBearss
Jan 4, 5:54pm Top

Hope you are having a wonderful start to your new year!

174drneutron
Jan 4, 8:37pm Top

So far, so good, though I’ll be glad to get into the next phase of spacecraft testing. We’ve had a tough few days trying to figure out a problem with our flight computer. We’ll get there, though. 😀

175BLBera
Jan 4, 10:33pm Top

>149 drneutron: Yum - I've only ever found goat in the Caribbean.

176drneutron
Jan 4, 10:41pm Top

This was pretty darn good! Gonna have a roti next week, probably brown stew chicken roti.

177quondame
Jan 4, 10:55pm Top



Just thought I'd make it official! Happy New Year & many good reads and eats!

178drneutron
Jan 5, 8:21am Top

Thanks!

179jnwelch
Jan 5, 9:10am Top

I'm trying to figure out how to pay you back by stirring up some trouble here, Jim, but it's tough. I'll tell you what: I think the sun is stupid, okay?

180drneutron
Jan 5, 10:44am Top

😁 Hey, just trying to make things interesting...

181richardderus
Jan 5, 10:55am Top

>179 jnwelch: *chuckle* This man sends computers into the high-radiation areas of the Solar System and gets them to talk to us on Earth, many tens of millions of miles away. And you think you can stir up trouble for him? It is to laugh.

182rretzler
Jan 5, 12:36pm Top

Hi, Jim. Dropping a star.



I'll add my appreciation to you for keeping us organized! Thanks so much for the fantastic job you do!

Looking forward to hearing more about the spacecraft launch this year!

183brodiew2
Jan 5, 12:54pm Top

Morning, Jim!

I finally got back to Bonhoeffer this morning. It's my out of the gate audio for 2018. I'm also slowly but surely reading The Fall: Revelation and Dust. It is the beginning of Post canon series featuring DS9, TNG, and Voyager crews. We'll see. My ST book luck has not been good lately. All of 'The Fall' series have been avail for $.99 or $1.99 for a while.

184drneutron
Jan 5, 2:19pm Top

>182 rretzler: I'll be keeping folks posted on our progress - only 7.5 months away!

>183 brodiew2: Bonhoeffer was a 4.5 star read for me, so I'm interested in hearing your thoughts! I've not heard of The Fall series - sounds like it could be good. I'll be watching that one too.

185karenmarie
Jan 5, 6:13pm Top

Hi Jim!

Line in the sand, 79 messages down the road.

Is this year's thread frenzy less than, the same as, or more than previous years. I'm dizzy with being behind.

186vancouverdeb
Jan 5, 6:19pm Top

Stopping by to say hi,Jim! Happy New Year!

187richardderus
Jan 5, 7:20pm Top

Jim...this group has been flagged by someone...permaybehaps we know who?

188drneutron
Jan 5, 8:00pm Top

>185 karenmarie: I'd say it's about the same as most years. It'll get better by the end of January. We always start out with a bang like this. 😁

>186 vancouverdeb: Happy new year!

>187 richardderus: Yep, I'd guess so. Somehow I don't think the powers that be will take us down.

189vancouverdeb
Jan 5, 8:03pm Top

I noticed the hilarious notice that the someone had flagged the Group. Maybe an early April Fool Joke, or a spammer? Things that go bump in the night.... ;-)

190drneutron
Jan 5, 8:12pm Top

Not a joke, unfortunately. I have a suspicion of what's going on, but don't want to say. I don't get info about who flagged us and don't want to jump to a wrong conclusion.

191BBGirl55
Jan 5, 8:14pm Top

Why would some do that!

192libraryperilous
Jan 5, 8:20pm Top

Wait, are you telling me there is flagging drama about this group? Some people just remain pre-transformation Grinches.

193katiekrug
Jan 5, 8:24pm Top

>187 richardderus: - WT actual F? Why would someone flag the group?

194drneutron
Jan 5, 8:47pm Top

>191 BBGirl55:, >192 libraryperilous:, >193 katiekrug: THere's someone out there with a grudge against us, and Richard in particular. I don't have any info one way or the other, so I don't want to assume something incorrect, but I'm thinking that's the source of the flag. Either way, the LT management will take a look and I'm sure they'll clear the flag.

195jessibud2
Jan 5, 8:57pm Top

I am following this drama and just now, I see that the flag is gone. WHEW

196drneutron
Jan 5, 8:59pm Top

Oh, I was sure it would be. And if it continues, the LT folks will handle it.

197brenzi
Jan 5, 9:14pm Top

Hi Jim, it’s taken me awhile but I finally made it here. Just in time to discover the group’s been flagged. Geez

198richardderus
Jan 5, 9:22pm Top

Such a crock of kimchi. I'm sorry about this. Maybe it's a one-off.

199drneutron
Edited: Jan 5, 9:23pm Top

>197 brenzi: 😁 No worries, it's cleared up now. Welcome, all the same!

>198 richardderus: If it continues, I'm sure the management will take more severe action.

200SomeGuyInVirginia
Jan 5, 9:41pm Top

>174 drneutron: Did you try turning it off and on again?

201drneutron
Jan 5, 9:44pm Top

200. Yup, though we can't do that after launch, so not a real fix. 😁 We figured it out - an intermittent open in a cable.

202jessibud2
Jan 5, 10:15pm Top

>194 drneutron: - Probably it's someone who's just *jealous of our jetpack*, so to speak. Maybe we just have way too much fun in the 75 group.... ;-)

203quondame
Jan 5, 10:23pm Top

>198 richardderus: Wait a minute, Kimchi is good, my favorite form of cabbage.

204drneutron
Jan 5, 10:40pm Top

>202 jessibud2: Heh. We the cool kids!

>203 quondame: 😂

205vancouverdeb
Jan 5, 10:43pm Top

>202 jessibud2: Love your theory, Shelley! I can't believe anyone flagged our group! I mean I believe it, but I don't have worry in the world that LT would take the flagging seriously. I think that red message was put by LT in sarcasm, but what do I know?

I'll leave in your capable hands, Jim. But if you need any help..... just ask!! ;-)

206nittnut
Jan 5, 10:58pm Top

>203 quondame: I'm pretty sure kimchi is the ONLY edible form of cabbage...

207quondame
Jan 5, 11:08pm Top

>206 nittnut: while I can't abide the boiled form I learned that the more gastronomically intelligent eastern Europeans pickle the cabbage overnight after it's cooked which makes it pretty good for stuffing. Not as good as grape leafs, but good.

208rretzler
Jan 6, 12:20am Top

Now don't go around dissing cabbage - sauerkraut is delicious! Just had some with my pork spare ribs on New Years Day! Yum!

Wow! Group drama! The 75'ers have some excitement of a different kind! Wish I would have seen it

209humouress
Jan 6, 12:21am Top

>187 richardderus: You can flag a whole group? Is that good flag or bad flag? I missed all the drama.

>198 richardderus: Oh, Richard! Did you offend another cat?

>201 drneutron: Thought you were trying to avoid work?

210Berly
Jan 6, 12:23am Top

Dang! I missed all the excitement. Glad the flag is gone. Ridiculous.

211Berly
Jan 6, 2:18am Top

Jim--You know the How To Do Really Cool Things on Your Threads thread? Is this the most current one? It's like from 2012! Took me forever to find it. Can I/You/Someone repost it in the 2018 Group?

: )

http://www.librarything.com/topic/129158#

212quondame
Jan 6, 2:57am Top

>211 Berly: has anyone done the cool little green stars within there posts? I can grok the special character access ★★★★½ but it would stand out better in green!

213humouress
Edited: Jan 6, 3:05am Top

>212 quondame: Post 48 etc on the above thread. Also 156 or thereabouts (yes, I like the coloured stars).

214Ameise1
Jan 6, 4:00am Top

>149 drneutron: I like goat but never has eaten it curry style.

215drneutron
Jan 6, 10:17am Top

>206 nittnut:, >207 quondame:, >208 rretzler: Sorry, I’m not a fan of cooked greens in general, with the exception of wilted greens in a soup or casserole, etc. Too many efforts on my mom’s part to make me eat collard greens. I’m also not a big fan of pickled things. Mrsdrneutron, though, loves both. Makes for an interesting marriage! 😀

>205 vancouverdeb:, >208 rretzler:, >209 humouress:, >210 Berly: Yeah, the drama came and went pretty fast. Users can flag groups as well as messages and profiles. With groups, one flag is enough to trigger a review by LT folks. This was pretty clearly a bogus flag, so no issues. Abuse of flagging, by the way, will get a user bounced from the site.

>209 humouress: I’m trying, but those pesky engineers keep dragging me back... 😀

216drneutron
Jan 6, 10:20am Top

>211 Berly:, >212 quondame:, >213 humouress: The Group Wiki links over to another wiki page with How To Do Cool Things info. I switched over to that a few years ago when the 2012 thread got pretty messy. I’ll post a message in the message board with both links as a reminder and help to folks. If there’s anything you’d like to add to the wiki, let me know and i’ll Get it in there.

217drneutron
Jan 6, 10:23am Top

>214 Ameise1: Surprisingly for me, it was an Indian curry with the curry dialed back a bit. The British brought slaves and indentured workers to the Caribbean sugar plantations as well as African, and as I should have guessed, the cuisines mingled. Hot enough to clean out my sinuses, though! 😀

218karenmarie
Jan 6, 10:24am Top

Hi Jim!

I, too, never realized a group could be flagged. Sheesh. As always, thank you for your tireless efforts on behalf of the 75ers.

219drneutron
Jan 6, 10:38am Top

I really enjoy administering the group - it pushes me out of my work focus. Yeah, in real life I’m a bit of a workaholic. 😀

This one was easy - I didn’t have to do anything. The flag automagically triggered a review by an LT staff member, and I was pretty sure that person would decide that flag was bogus.

220Berly
Jan 6, 10:41am Top

>216 drneutron: Thanks! Again, you da best!

221quondame
Edited: Jan 6, 3:35pm Top

>213 humouress: I found what I was looking for by checking the source for all the stars on someone's How I Rate introduction.
I'm an old hand at copy/paste thievery.

222richardderus
Jan 6, 3:55pm Top

Wow. It got busy up in here.

General Cabbagey Stuff: I love all cabbages with the sole exception of kale. I'm always partial to pickled anything. But kimchi smells pretty bad when it's presented en masse, so to speak.

As to those not enamo(u)red of cooked cabbagey things, I can but shake my head in pitying sympathy.

223nittnut
Jan 6, 4:37pm Top

>208 rretzler: You are absolutely right. I do like sauerkraut.

>215 drneutron: I agree with you on greens in soup, otherwise, I prefer them lightly stir-fried or roasted rather than boiled limp. My kids don't prefer them in any form. So much fun trying to feed people with opinions lol.

>222 richardderus: My cabbage issues go back to this weird casserole from childhood that involved ground beef, rice, cabbage and some kind of sauce that probably had soy and Worcestershire in it. All these things are great separately, but together? Some things just stay with you forever...

224ChelleBearss
Jan 6, 4:39pm Top

>174 drneutron: I can’t say that’s a problem I’ve ever had!
Hope you get it figured out without too much of a headache!

225richardderus
Jan 6, 4:44pm Top

>223 nittnut: That sounds good to me. Soy and Worcestershire on the beef...then add the rice...then wrap in the cabbage leaves...then bake in some super-thick tomato sauce...oh wait, that's stuffed cabbage! I adore it. Especially if the meat also has mozzarella in it.

I mean, what can go wrong with beef, mozzarella, tomatoes, and rice inside cabbage?

226katiekrug
Jan 6, 5:43pm Top

Cabbage should only be eaten if cooked in bacon grease and then served with the cooked bacon chopped and mixed in. The end.

227drneutron
Jan 6, 6:16pm Top

>220 Berly: Thanks!

>221 quondame: Cool! Stars look good!

>222 richardderus:, >223 nittnut:, >225 richardderus:, >226 katiekrug: Well, I can say I didn't expect to have a cabbage fest going on in here! 😂

>224 ChelleBearss: Yup, we're getting it worked out. Turned out to be an intermittent connection in one of the cables. Now we just gotta get it fixed next week so we can move the spacecraft into the thermal vacuum chamber!

228msf59
Jan 6, 6:23pm Top

"Such a crock of kimchi"! I am with RD! Glad we got that sorted out.

Happy Saturday, Jim. Could you have ever imagined, that this place would be rockin' like this, all these years later? I think many of us thought, it would have fizzled out, after a few years. No Siree Bob!!

229drneutron
Jan 6, 6:28pm Top

Yup, I'm always surprised at what a community we have here. Hoping for another 10 years!

230msf59
Jan 6, 6:32pm Top

Unless we keep getting flagged and the whole thing collapses, by the sheer "Drama" of it all. Grins...

231drneutron
Jan 6, 6:36pm Top

😂

232pbirch01
Jan 6, 6:44pm Top

>102 drneutron: A bit old but post-Artemis I would suggest this podcast interview with Andy Weir about the economics of Artemis:
http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2017/12/conversation-andy-weir....

Really interesting in the sense that Weir wanted to be sure that the concept of a colony on the moon was economically plausible before writing the story.

233drneutron
Jan 6, 6:51pm Top

Huh, gonna take a listen. I'm not surprised he worked out the details like that - just what I'd expect.

234richardderus
Jan 6, 6:58pm Top

>232 pbirch01: That's the kind of writer he is, one who expects his readers to think *carefully* and it makes him unique.

235Crazymamie
Jan 6, 7:17pm Top

Is it just me, or does it smell like cabbage in here? *blinks* I just started listening to Artemis and have already realized that I could never live on the moon since the coffee would always be ruined.

236richardderus
Jan 6, 7:23pm Top

>235 Crazymamie: Horrors. Unendurable.

237Crazymamie
Jan 6, 7:55pm Top

>236 richardderus: Right. I'm out. No lunar living for me.

238drneutron
Jan 6, 8:31pm Top

Yeah, that’s a deal-breaker there.

239drneutron
Jan 6, 9:03pm Top

Time to join me in the next chapter!

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