drneutron's (Jim's) Reading to Avoid Work - Chapter 1
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I'm Jim, 54, husband of 32 years, father of a son in a PhD program in Comp Sci at Notre Dame, who reads pretty much anything. We're in central Maryland with roots in Louisiana. I like to read (obviously), cook, want to learn to fly fish, and trail bike riding/kayaking with mrsdrneutron. Of course, LT is a big time sink, but mrsdrneutron seems to have come to terms with my LT addiction...
Thanks! And congrats to you for being the first to find the new group (besides me, who created the thing...)! 😁
I was just here at the right time :) Not setting up a thread until 2018 though.
Boxing Day it is! Hope the spaceship is coming along, Jim. Thanks for getting us set up here.
>8 ronincats: Spacecraft testing is often long periods of boredom punctuated by moments of terror. I'm using this time to set up the group while keeping an eye on a dozen people in the cleanroom who are pulling the avionics box out of the inside of the spacecraft so we can make a repair. We lost a couple of weeks of schedule, but are making it up. Plus the thing will hopefully work after launch! 😁
Thanks so much for keeping this group going, Jim. Happy reading 2018.
See you on the other side of the New Year Jim! Here's to a great 2018. *clinks coffee mugs*
Thanks for setting us up again Jim!
>9 drneutron: Sounds complicated! Hope it all goes well.
>15 charl08: So far, so good, though we haven't found a problem yet. But really, I'd rather not until we get on the bench, since we think we know what's going on. If we're wrong, the problem gets a lot harder. 😁
>16 richardderus: No prob! It's been my pleasure to get and keep things rolling. Plus as mentioned above, wee had a lot of down time during operations, so I've had a chance to concentrate on the new group setup.
Thanks for setting up the new group and for all the work you've done this past year.
Thanks for setting us up for another year, Jim. Strange to think that you are at work, this is a stat holiday for us (well not if you work in a store of course, where it is probably a madhouse). I hope everything turns out well, workwise.
Best wishes for a great year, Jim - both reading and in everything else.
Thanks for setting upi the Group.
Popping in to mark your thread. I hope 2018 is a successful reading year for you, and that your fly-fishing goal is met.
Happy New Year, JIm. Once again, thank you so much for running this fabulous group. I have you partially to thank for the friends I've made in real life here on the 75 group. My very last meetup was here in DC with _Zoe_, norabelle414, and radicarian. It is lovely to get to see everyone. I'm planning a Philly area meetup for May. I'll keep everyone posted on this. I hope to see you and your wife this year. Hope all is going well with your son.
Yup, the son's doing well. We've had him home for about a week now, should be here for another. It's been nice having here for Christmas!
Hi Jim! Looking forward to another great year. Thanks for all the work you do here.
Stopping by to say Thanks! and dropping a star or more. A new year on the calendar always gives me an excuse to say I'm trying harder to do better.
We, here, do just fine, tho .... don't we. Much gratitude sent in your direction because clearly you are big reason the group continues to thrive!
Happy New Year and happy new thread, Jim! Thanks for setting everything up!
*Bling* star dropping! Adding my thanks for your thread wrangling skills (ha! makes you sound like a weaver) and happy high hopes for spacecraft/fly fishing/whatnot success!
I have to drop a star on our Fearless Leader! Lots of activity of the '18 threads all ready. Wasting no time.
Yup, we have the number 1 and number 2 slots on the most active groups list!
Hi, Jim! Wishing you good reading in 2018. Thanks for setting up the new group!
I have been lurking around your thread for a few days, so decided to just drop in and say hello and thanks for setting this group up again this year.
Happy New Year, Jim. Thanks for all your efforts for the group.
(Sunrise at Newgrange, Ireland)
Hi Jim! Checking in to report my presence for 2018...even though I read not much on 2017, I still count it as a great reading year, probably because of all the fantastic book talk that surrounded it.
As with last year, I made a thread where we can post summaries/stats/wrapup from 2017. You can find it at http://www.librarything.com/topic/279599 !
Hi Jim, just stopping by to wish you and Danita a Very Happy New Year and hope that 2018 is a really good year, sending love and hugs to you both from both of us.
Happy reading in 2018, Jim!
And thanks for setting up the group & keeping up with us!
If you need help with the Threadbook, just let me know.
Happy new year, Jim. Dare I hope 2018 will bring you and your lovely wife into my neck of the woods again?
Happy New Year, Jim! Starting my 10th year with the 75ers. Thanks for all you do for us.
Happy New Year
Happy New Group here
This place is full of friends
I hope it never ends
It brew of erudition and good cheer.
I'll add my thanks for your devotion to the 75ers with all the administrative work you do to make this the best group on LT.
LT is a big time sink. Don't I know it. I wonder how many more books I could read if I spent less time hanging out with everybody.
^Looking forward to following our fearless leader and this incredible group for another year of books & shenanigans!
Happy New Year Jim! Thanks for setting us up again and happy reading!
Happy 2018!! Thanks for making this wonderful group possible! And all your nerdy science stuff, which I love. : )
Happy New Year, Jim!
Thank goodness mrsdrneutron has come to terms with your LT addiction. WE'd be sunk without you.
My better half makes fun of me, but also understands - and will have her own thread again this year.
Happy New Year, Jim! Thank you for all your efforts setting up and maintaining this group.
Happy Reading in 2018!
Thanks everybody! It’s been a busy day, but i’m finally getting a chance to get caught up - and get the Threadbook caught up! Finished a book this morning, will get that one in pretty quickly.
Whew, Got all the New Year's Day new threads in. Can I just mention here that I've come to loathe Captcha? I get why LT implemented it for wiki edits, but damn it's a pain when I have lots of THreadbook updates to make... 😁
First for the year!
1. Artemis by Andy Weir
As many of you know, I'm a space guy - physicist and spacecraft engineer. Weir's first book, The Martian, is one of my faves, so I have been looking forward to his next with anticipation. Artemis did not disappoint. It's a nicely done crime caper story in a well-done setting (with pretty accurate engineering!) with decently conceptualized characters. I've seen a few comments that Jazz didn't seem believable as a female - I can't really comment on that, except that I liked her. It won't be the best book I read this year, but I'm sure it'll be a long stretch better than the worst.
I liked Artemis, too, Jim. Glad to hear the engineering was pretty accurate - I wondered. He seems to do his homework. Jazz was fine by me, too.
Aack! Hit by an Artemis book bullet. First book on your thread, first BB for me.
Have a wonderful year of reading, Jim. And thanks for making this wonderful special haven for us all.
>105 jnwelch: Morning, Joe! I've seen references to people reading Artemis across the group. I think it's cool!
>106 scaifea: Yes you do, missy!
>107 streamsong: I've already been picked up a couple of BBs from making my rounds yesterday/today. I'm hoping that's a good omen for the year! 😁
>108 rosylibrarian: Yup, yup! One of the things I like about Weir is that his characters are so danged positive. When bad things happen, they just get to work. My kinda people. 😁
>109 PersephonesLibrary: Thanks!
>102 drneutron: I haven't decided whether or not Artemis is calling to me. I read the first chapter when it was posted online before the books release. It didn't really make me eager to continue. I'm noting your review and continuing to waver.
Happy New Year, Jim, and thank you for setting up this group once again. It's my happy place in the internet!
>112 SuziQoregon: Well, We'll keep trying to tempt you! 😁
>113 vivians: I've heard him talk about the writing process and he has lots of help understanding the physics and chemistry, but I think he's one of those people with a real talent for communicating with non experts.
>114 LauraBrook: Thanks! It's mine too.
Hello Jim and Happy New year!
Sadly, I had trouble accessing Artemis in print and audio. Perhaps, I'll give it another go later in the year.
Hiyah, Brodie! I thought it was pretty good, though as noted, not as good as The Martian. Would love to hear your thoughts on it if you get to it!
>102 drneutron: I give Jazz one star, and add 1.5 for Weir's amazeballs ability to make me feel engineering is a plot point. It's *incredible* how hard that is, and he's done it twice now. I'll keep reading his books, but this was a disappointment to me.
Do you have any good recs for Physics for dummies on audio. I'm half tempted to read Tyson, but not sure about it.
>118 richardderus: Yeah, I saw your conversation with Joe, but didn't have time to jump in over there. I can definitely see your point about Jazz being another Mark Whatney. Like Joe, I was ok with that, though I don't understand why he chose to make Jazz female if that's the case - stick with what you know...
Anyway, yeah, he's got a real talent for making the engineering real and exciting, which, yeah, is pretty incredible.
>119 brodiew2: Hmmm, these sorts of books often have diagrams and such that help with understanding, so audio may be challenging. Let me see what I can find.
>123 richardderus: Ah, and ugh. Thanks for the warning. I also recall reading that Weir self-labels as "socially liberal, fiscally conservative." *eyeroll* (ETA >124 drneutron: too)
Sometimes I can finish books that strike me as misogynistic (or other unpleasant things), but sometimes there's not enough else in the story to keep my nose in the book. The latter is why the GoT books remain unread by me.
>125 libraryperilous: That's why I left GoT behind as well. Distasteful social attitudes require something huge for me to look over or past them.
>126 richardderus: omg, same, and, also, if I want the Wars of the Roses with fantasy, I'll just reread The Sunne in Splendour and imagine dragons.
>126 richardderus: >127 libraryperilous: I can't say GoT is actually fun for me to read, but I prefer its brutality and gore to the portrayal of women in historical novels as if they socially/politically unaware and emotionally self-indulgent ninnies. I believe the ones worth writing about were mostly hell-on-wheels.
Dropping off my star and wishing you all wonderful things in 2018, Jim! And looking forward to meeting you in March!
>127 libraryperilous: Yes!
Hi, Jim! Thanks so much for setting up the group again this year in between getting the old spaceship ready for its jaunt to the sun.
Interesting discussion on Artemis. I started listening to the audio last year but just couldn't get into it. I have to say I was not enamored of Jazz, though I loved the character of Watney in The Martian. It didn't seem to me he was a cowboy libertarian so much as a survivor. Jazz, on the other hand - yes.
>130 quondame: Historical inaccuracy is a bugbear of mine as well, but in fantasy worlds invented by authors I expect better than reality delivered. Or else what's the point of fiction?
>133 richardderus: Better can be a pretty wide gate. The only fantasy world I really thought was better to live in was the city in Kiki's Delivery Service and while Larry Niven might want to live on the edge of Ringworld - I asked him once - I would not. Not Middle Earth or even the future in Diamond Age. GRRM gives his characters real challenges and lets them fail (Ned Stark was too stupid to live), sometimes they grow in surprising ways, which is what I find interesting.
>134 quondame: I take your point. I'd certainly agree that Ned Stark was an idiot, since the entirety of the fandom that I know well enough to speak to says the same thing.
I have you starred and I am looking forward to another year of reading and friends!
>131 EBT1002: Welcome to the madness! I’m really looking forward to the March meetup!
>132 Storeetllr: good to see you again! I’m beginning to think Joe and I are in the minority re: Jazz! 😀 Thst’s cool - if we all liked the same things the same way, life would be boring!
>133 richardderus: There’s very few fantasy worlds I’d want to live in - Spellsinger, Moonheart, one or two others. The rest? Too epic-y for me. 😀
>134 quondame:, >135 richardderus: I refuse to read the 6000+ pages of GoT we’ve got so far until I know he’s gonna finish the series... no WoT repeats! 😀
>136 banjo123: Welcome!
>137 drneutron: I'd like to visit Newford, but the weather's too cold for me and I was never part of any artsy or musical crowd.
>138 quondame: Another good one! I'm somewhat musical, so I've enjoyed de Lint's look at that world.
>128 richardderus:, >129 drneutron: I'm here to left shark entertain you.
>132 Storeetllr: High five! Also, thanks for the alternate perspective on Artemis and Mark Watney's character. I've left it on my TBR list for the moment and will give it a go.
>130 quondame: I agree! GoT, for me, still seemed very misogynistic at its core, even though it probably was going for historical accuracy. I think we all draw bright lines in these matters, but that those lines shift as we're engaging with texts.
on your broader point, I get angry every time I think about that ridiculous Hilary Mandel comment.
Oh, good! Someone that liked Artemis! I've seen so many disappointed reviews that I was thinking maybe I'd not read it very quickly. It's one of the books I got Aaron for Christmas...I guess I'll see what he thinks of it before deciding if I'm going to pick it up.
Re Wheel of Time...just a big ol' NO from me from book 1 onwards. I suspect I'm better off giving GoT a miss as well, since I'm so averse to many of its tropes.
But hey, I've got my space operas to keep me entertained!
>140 libraryperilous: Misogyny isn't having horrible things happen to women, otherwise I'd never be able to read jo Clayton or Sheri Tepper but in the emotions generated by the descriptions thereof and of the eventual fates of those women. Which is why I finally stopped reading Piers Anthony and Jack Chalker before the end of the 80s. Hilary Mandel???
I read the first four books of GoT and then just couldn't take it any more. As King Frederick said to Mozart in Amadeus, there were too many notes.
I only made it through the first five minutes of the TV series for the violence. Did you see the recent headlines about people who were binging the series before the last season and had forgotten the horror of the red wedding?
mrsdrneutron and I only watched the first episode. Definitely not her thing. And I'm not committing to the books until he's done. If I'm gonna read 'em, I don't want to get to the end of thousands of pages to be left hanging. 😁
So I've been stuck at Goddard Space Flight Center today watching the team put our avionics box back on the spacecraft. Now, food here is boring and a bit hard to come by - there's a Five Guys outside the main date, but that's gonna make the afternoon nap time. So I looks around and low and behold, there's a new place that quietly slipped into the little strip mall. Walked in, it's a Caribbean place. Run by folks from Jamaica.
I'm Saved!!! There is food to be found here!
Here's my goat curry from lunch...
Mmmmm, goat curry! I haven't had goat curry since I left a job in Santa Monica back in the late 1990s (there was a great Caribbean place near my office back then). That looks amazing! I wonder if I can find a Caribbean place somewhere in Pueblo. Probably not, but I can always hope.
>140 libraryperilous: Best historical novel I have ever read, and that includes some really good ones. Also, don't read Artemis on my word because I did not enjoy it enough to finish it - yet. I probably will, though, as I own the audio version.
Goat curry! YUUUMMM
I miss living in Hempstead when I think of the Jamaican joints around there.
>152 Storeetllr: Do you mean Wolf Hall? I really need to read it! But I have to be in juuuuust the right mood for historical fiction written in the present tense.
Huzzah for Caribbean food!
Well, my hold on Artemis came in, so I'll be reading it in the next few days. We'll see if I come down on our esteemed thread host's side of things.
Today's J. R. R. Tolkien's 126 birthday. I'm raising a 12 yr Glenlivet in his honor. That and to shed a day's worth of care... 😁
Thanks for the stories, Professor.
Oooh, I'll have to pour a glass of Glenfiddich and drink a toast to the Professor too!
>155 drneutron: heh
I raised a grateful glass to the Perfesser myownself. So glad his son stopped mining the slag heap for *more* of the damned dull dry-as-dust drivel.
So glad you found good food! It's the main thing I miss living in the country: we have Italian, Chinese and fast food. It has pushed my cooking a bit. I have just discovered the joy of wonton wrappers for making lovely little packets that can be filled with lots of different inspired fillings from Asian to Mexican.
>158 Storeetllr: I haven't read as much historical fiction lately so added The Heaven Tree and A Bloody Field By Shrewsbury to the TBR pile. Didn't know Ellis Peters wrote non mysteries.
>171 witchyrichy: Ellis Peters is Edith Pargeter - so you've got a couple of hers on your TBR right now! And I find her historical stuff just as rich, though somewhat denser, than her mysteries (either Cadfael or the more modern ones). Good reading. I just (last year) finished Ellis Peters' Shropshire - it's a weird combo of travel book, memoir (though she explicitly rejects the notion, it's still through her eyes and "how things were when I was a child" quite a bit), and...I don't know, geology/geography book? I enjoyed it, and it made me really want to go back there and visit again, book in hand. Lovely bits that reference where she got story scenes/settings from, too.
So far, so good, though I’ll be glad to get into the next phase of spacecraft testing. We’ve had a tough few days trying to figure out a problem with our flight computer. We’ll get there, though. 😀
This was pretty darn good! Gonna have a roti next week, probably brown stew chicken roti.
Just thought I'd make it official! Happy New Year & many good reads and eats!
I'm trying to figure out how to pay you back by stirring up some trouble here, Jim, but it's tough. I'll tell you what: I think the sun is stupid, okay?
>179 jnwelch: *chuckle* This man sends computers into the high-radiation areas of the Solar System and gets them to talk to us on Earth, many tens of millions of miles away. And you think you can stir up trouble for him? It is to laugh.
Hi, Jim. Dropping a star.
I'll add my appreciation to you for keeping us organized! Thanks so much for the fantastic job you do!
Looking forward to hearing more about the spacecraft launch this year!
I finally got back to Bonhoeffer this morning. It's my out of the gate audio for 2018. I'm also slowly but surely reading The Fall: Revelation and Dust. It is the beginning of Post canon series featuring DS9, TNG, and Voyager crews. We'll see. My ST book luck has not been good lately. All of 'The Fall' series have been avail for $.99 or $1.99 for a while.
Line in the sand, 79 messages down the road.
Is this year's thread frenzy less than, the same as, or more than previous years. I'm dizzy with being behind.
Jim...this group has been flagged by someone...permaybehaps we know who?
I noticed the hilarious notice that the someone had flagged the Group. Maybe an early April Fool Joke, or a spammer? Things that go bump in the night.... ;-)
Not a joke, unfortunately. I have a suspicion of what's going on, but don't want to say. I don't get info about who flagged us and don't want to jump to a wrong conclusion.
Wait, are you telling me there is flagging drama about this group? Some people just remain pre-transformation Grinches.
>191 BBGirl55:, >192 libraryperilous:, >193 katiekrug: THere's someone out there with a grudge against us, and Richard in particular. I don't have any info one way or the other, so I don't want to assume something incorrect, but I'm thinking that's the source of the flag. Either way, the LT management will take a look and I'm sure they'll clear the flag.
Oh, I was sure it would be. And if it continues, the LT folks will handle it.
Hi Jim, it’s taken me awhile but I finally made it here. Just in time to discover the group’s been flagged. Geez
200. Yup, though we can't do that after launch, so not a real fix. 😁 We figured it out - an intermittent open in a cable.
>194 drneutron: - Probably it's someone who's just *jealous of our jetpack*, so to speak. Maybe we just have way too much fun in the 75 group.... ;-)
>198 richardderus: Wait a minute, Kimchi is good, my favorite form of cabbage.
>202 jessibud2: Love your theory, Shelley! I can't believe anyone flagged our group! I mean I believe it, but I don't have worry in the world that LT would take the flagging seriously. I think that red message was put by LT in sarcasm, but what do I know?
I'll leave in your capable hands, Jim. But if you need any help..... just ask!! ;-)
>203 quondame: I'm pretty sure kimchi is the ONLY edible form of cabbage...
>206 nittnut: while I can't abide the boiled form I learned that the more gastronomically intelligent eastern Europeans pickle the cabbage overnight after it's cooked which makes it pretty good for stuffing. Not as good as grape leafs, but good.
Now don't go around dissing cabbage - sauerkraut is delicious! Just had some with my pork spare ribs on New Years Day! Yum!
Wow! Group drama! The 75'ers have some excitement of a different kind! Wish I would have seen it
Jim--You know the How To Do Really Cool Things on Your Threads thread? Is this the most current one? It's like from 2012! Took me forever to find it. Can I/You/Someone repost it in the 2018 Group?
>211 Berly: has anyone done the cool little green stars within there posts? I can grok the special character access ★★★★½ but it would stand out better in green!
>212 quondame: Post 48 etc on the above thread. Also 156 or thereabouts (yes, I like the coloured stars).
>206 nittnut:, >207 quondame:, >208 rretzler: Sorry, I’m not a fan of cooked greens in general, with the exception of wilted greens in a soup or casserole, etc. Too many efforts on my mom’s part to make me eat collard greens. I’m also not a big fan of pickled things. Mrsdrneutron, though, loves both. Makes for an interesting marriage! 😀
>205 vancouverdeb:, >208 rretzler:, >209 humouress:, >210 Berly: Yeah, the drama came and went pretty fast. Users can flag groups as well as messages and profiles. With groups, one flag is enough to trigger a review by LT folks. This was pretty clearly a bogus flag, so no issues. Abuse of flagging, by the way, will get a user bounced from the site.
>209 humouress: I’m trying, but those pesky engineers keep dragging me back... 😀
>211 Berly:, >212 quondame:, >213 humouress: The Group Wiki links over to another wiki page with How To Do Cool Things info. I switched over to that a few years ago when the 2012 thread got pretty messy. I’ll post a message in the message board with both links as a reminder and help to folks. If there’s anything you’d like to add to the wiki, let me know and i’ll Get it in there.
>214 Ameise1: Surprisingly for me, it was an Indian curry with the curry dialed back a bit. The British brought slaves and indentured workers to the Caribbean sugar plantations as well as African, and as I should have guessed, the cuisines mingled. Hot enough to clean out my sinuses, though! 😀
I, too, never realized a group could be flagged. Sheesh. As always, thank you for your tireless efforts on behalf of the 75ers.
I really enjoy administering the group - it pushes me out of my work focus. Yeah, in real life I’m a bit of a workaholic. 😀
This one was easy - I didn’t have to do anything. The flag automagically triggered a review by an LT staff member, and I was pretty sure that person would decide that flag was bogus.
>213 humouress: I found what I was looking for by checking the source for all the stars on someone's How I Rate introduction.
I'm an old hand at copy/paste thievery.
Wow. It got busy up in here.
General Cabbagey Stuff: I love all cabbages with the sole exception of kale. I'm always partial to pickled anything. But kimchi smells pretty bad when it's presented en masse, so to speak.
As to those not enamo(u)red of cooked cabbagey things, I can but shake my head in pitying sympathy.
>208 rretzler: You are absolutely right. I do like sauerkraut.
>215 drneutron: I agree with you on greens in soup, otherwise, I prefer them lightly stir-fried or roasted rather than boiled limp. My kids don't prefer them in any form. So much fun trying to feed people with opinions lol.
>222 richardderus: My cabbage issues go back to this weird casserole from childhood that involved ground beef, rice, cabbage and some kind of sauce that probably had soy and Worcestershire in it. All these things are great separately, but together? Some things just stay with you forever...
>174 drneutron: I can’t say that’s a problem I’ve ever had!
Hope you get it figured out without too much of a headache!
>223 nittnut: That sounds good to me. Soy and Worcestershire on the beef...then add the rice...then wrap in the cabbage leaves...then bake in some super-thick tomato sauce...oh wait, that's stuffed cabbage! I adore it. Especially if the meat also has mozzarella in it.
I mean, what can go wrong with beef, mozzarella, tomatoes, and rice inside cabbage?
Cabbage should only be eaten if cooked in bacon grease and then served with the cooked bacon chopped and mixed in. The end.
>220 Berly: Thanks!
>221 quondame: Cool! Stars look good!
>222 richardderus:, >223 nittnut:, >225 richardderus:, >226 katiekrug: Well, I can say I didn't expect to have a cabbage fest going on in here! 😂
>224 ChelleBearss: Yup, we're getting it worked out. Turned out to be an intermittent connection in one of the cables. Now we just gotta get it fixed next week so we can move the spacecraft into the thermal vacuum chamber!
"Such a crock of kimchi"! I am with RD! Glad we got that sorted out.
Happy Saturday, Jim. Could you have ever imagined, that this place would be rockin' like this, all these years later? I think many of us thought, it would have fizzled out, after a few years. No Siree Bob!!
Yup, I'm always surprised at what a community we have here. Hoping for another 10 years!
Unless we keep getting flagged and the whole thing collapses, by the sheer "Drama" of it all. Grins...
>102 drneutron: A bit old but post-Artemis I would suggest this podcast interview with Andy Weir about the economics of Artemis:
Really interesting in the sense that Weir wanted to be sure that the concept of a colony on the moon was economically plausible before writing the story.
Huh, gonna take a listen. I'm not surprised he worked out the details like that - just what I'd expect.
>232 pbirch01: That's the kind of writer he is, one who expects his readers to think *carefully* and it makes him unique.
Is it just me, or does it smell like cabbage in here? *blinks* I just started listening to Artemis and have already realized that I could never live on the moon since the coffee would always be ruined.
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