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Joe's 2018 Book Cafe Door 2

This is a continuation of the topic Joe's 2018 Book Cafe Door 1.

This topic was continued by Joe's Book Cafe Door 3.

75 Books Challenge for 2018

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1jnwelch
Edited: Jan 6, 5:21pm Top









Who can resist Art Deco?

Welcome back to the cafe!

3jnwelch
Edited: Jan 6, 5:27pm Top

Best of 2017 by category, and then my Top 5 overall.

Fiction

News of the World by Paulette Jiles
Eleanor Oliphant is Completely Fine by Gail Honeyman
A Man Called Ove by Fredrik Backman
Tenant of Wildfell Hall by Ann Bronte
Lincoln in the Bardo by George Saunders

*The Windup Bird Chronicle would be listed, but it was a re-read

Poetry

Olio by Tyehimba Jess
Don't Call Us Dead by Danez Smith
Stag's Leap by Sharon Olds
Citizen: An American Lyric by Claudia Rankine
Bright Dead Things by Ada Limon

Nonfiction

Why Buddhism is True by Robert Wright
The Gene by Siddhartha Mukherjee
Whistling Vivaldi by Claude M. Steele
Born a Crime by Trevor Noah
To Siri with Love by Judith Newman

*Hard not to put Hillbilly Elegy, I Contain Multitudes, The Warmth of Other Suns, and Destiny of the Republic on this. Great year for NF.

Young Adult

The Hate U Give by Angie Thomas
Turtles All the Way Down by John Green
The Someday Birds by Sally J. Pla
The Girl Who Drank the Moon by Kelly Barnhill
Akata Witch and Akata Warrior by Nnedi Okorafor

Science Fiction

The Stone Sky by N.K. Jemison (conclusion of a trilogy)
Binti: Home by Nnedi Okorafor
Provenance by Anne Leckie
City by Clifford Simak
The Three-Body Problem by Cixin Liu

Mystery

Magpie Murders by Anthony Horowitz
Lightning Men by Thomas Mullen (is this a "mystery"?)

Lots of good series, like Fiona Griffiths, Eve Dallas, Longmire, and so on, but these two were the standout books.

Graphic Novels

My Favorite Thing is Monsters by Emil Ferris
One Hundred Nights of Hero by Isabel Greenberg
The Singing Bones by Shaun Tan (not really a GN, but amazing - featuring his sculptures)
Roughneck by Jeff Lemire (tough content)
The Best We Could Do by Thi Bui

*Hard not to include Baking With Kafka, Paper Girls (series), All's Faire in Middle School, Park Bench, Rolling Blackouts, and Sandman Omnibus

Top 5 Books of 2017

News of the World by Paulette Jiles (beautifully told story of the old West)
Olio by Tyehimba Jess (what an amazing piece of work)
Why Buddhism is True by Robert Wright (pragmatic and convincing)
The Gene by Siddhartha Mukherjee (remarkable, well-written, thought-provoking - where are we headed, with the powers we're developing?)
The Hate U Give by Angie Thomas (terrific and even-handed YA novel featuring of-the-moment racial issues)

Top Graphic: The Singing Bones - such a talented artist

4jnwelch
Edited: Jan 6, 5:16pm Top



Loose Woman is an engaging collection of Sandra Cisneros' poetry (she's the author of The House on Mango Street). I found it a bit uneven, but even the lesser ones have wit and something thought-provoking. She takes on lust and sex and menstruation (what an ode to that!) and black lace bras and her Mexican heritage with fierceness and power.

Here's one I liked that book readers can relate to:

Bay Poem from Berkeley
By Sandra Cisneros


Mornings I still
reach for you before
opening my eyes.

An antique habit from
last summer when we pulled
each other into the heat of groin
and belly, slept with an arm
around the other.

The Texas sun was like that.
Like a body asleep beside you.

But when I open my eyes
to the flannel and down,
mist at the window and blue
light from the bay, I remember
where I am.

This weight
on the other side of the bed
is only books, not you. What
I said I loved more than you.
True.

Though these mornings
I wish books loved back.

* * * *

Here's the ending of her poem "Full Moon and You're Not Here", which made me laugh:

* * * *

You're in love with my mind.

But sometimes, sweetheart,
a woman needs a man
who loves her ass.

5jnwelch
Edited: Jan 6, 5:19pm Top

6johnsimpson
Jan 6, 5:14pm Top

Happy new thread Joe and great thread topper pictures mate.

7richardderus
Jan 6, 5:17pm Top

No one *should* resist Art Deco!

I'll be over here if anyone's looking for me.

8ronincats
Jan 6, 5:19pm Top

>1 jnwelch: Whoa, aren't THOSE gorgeous!!

9Crazymamie
Jan 6, 5:24pm Top

Happy new one, Joe! Love the toppers!!

10Berly
Jan 6, 5:27pm Top

Hi, Joe! Love the toppers. And my daughter has those socks but they say "Bring me wine!" : )

11jnwelch
Jan 6, 5:30pm Top

>5 jnwelch: Thanks, John. I was just talking with my wife about how much we enjoy your posts over on your thread. I'm glad you like the toppers.

As first in the door, you win a pot of tea (I'm pretty sure that'll hit the spot):

12jnwelch
Jan 6, 5:31pm Top

>6 johnsimpson: Ha! You found a nice spot, RD. Irresistible.

>7 richardderus: Aren't they, Roni? I love Art Deco.

>8 ronincats: Thanks, Mamie!

13scaifea
Jan 6, 5:32pm Top

Happy new one, Joe! Love the toppers.

Also just leave this little present here for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs3SfNANtig

14jnwelch
Edited: Jan 6, 5:39pm Top

>9 Crazymamie: Ha! Hi, Kim! I didn't know the socks came with different "flavors". Mark probably has a pair that say, "Bring me a beer."

15katiekrug
Jan 6, 5:34pm Top

>10 Berly: - I have those socks, too, Kim :)

Hi Joe!

16jnwelch
Jan 6, 5:39pm Top

>13 scaifea: OMG, that is so funny!! Thanks, Amber. I was howling over here. The Turkish Consulate was the only one smart enough to keep out the Trojan Horse. Have we learned nothing?

And - the Sydney Opera House?!!

17jnwelch
Jan 6, 5:41pm Top

>15 katiekrug: As usual, Katie, I'm trailing well behind the latest fashion trends. I do have a pair that say, "Bring me a Murakami".

18scaifea
Jan 6, 5:50pm Top

>16 jnwelch: I used to show that video to my mythology and Greek lit classes. Too funny. And I LOVE that the Turkish Consulate are the only ones who don't let them in! Clearly they've learned *their* lesson!

19ChelleBearss
Jan 6, 6:01pm Top

Wow, the threads are moving fast these days! Happy second thread!

20Caroline_McElwee
Jan 6, 6:01pm Top

>1 jnwelch: Gorgeous Gatsbyesque Joe.

>13 scaifea: Very Funny.

21msf59
Jan 6, 6:09pm Top

Happy New Thread, Joe. I just got home from work and I am relaxing with a cold one or two. I will be setting up a new thread too. Tonight or in the morning.

Loving Nickelby. This one doesn't seem to get the love that some of his others get. Not sure why. Did you see any adaptations that you can recommend?

22NarratorLady
Edited: Jan 6, 6:50pm Top

>21 msf59: Mark, the best adaptation is the Royal Shakespeare Company's Nicholas Nickleby starring Roger Rees. It was a theatrical event in 1982 - audiences would attend consecutive nights (or a matinee and evening performance on Wednesdays and Saturdays) to see the whole thing. Also starring Edward Petherbridge (aka Lord Peter Wimsey) as Newman Noggs, the 40 member cast filled 100 roles. Happily it's on DVD so your local library may have it or maybe a streaming service.

23jnwelch
Jan 6, 6:33pm Top

>18 scaifea: Oh, the students must've loved that, Amber. It's great to change things up like that. I wish I could've taken your class.

>19 ChelleBearss: Thanks, Chelle! Yeah, for some reason the start of the LT year usually goes fast. I imagine it'll settle down a bit soon.

24jessibud2
Edited: Jan 6, 6:48pm Top

Happy new thread - again! - Joe. Only day 6 and already the second thread! Busy days!

>13 scaifea: - That is hilarious!

edited to correct the fact that I didn't add correctly.

25jnwelch
Edited: Jan 6, 6:44pm Top

>20 Caroline_McElwee: Good call, Caroline - I know a lot of people connectGatsby with Art Deco.



Isn't >13 scaifea: funny? That really got me. So clever.

26jnwelch
Edited: Jan 6, 6:48pm Top

>21 msf59: Thanks, Mark. Part of me wanted to keep the goofy old thread going, but it was time.

I don't know why Nickelby isn't rated with his best, but it does have a lot of fans. I'm glad you're having such a good time with it - that's should help with this tough stretch of weather.

Anne makes a great suggestion below for an adaptation of it. I had fun with the 2002 movie, which I think you'd enjoy: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0309912/

>22 NarratorLady: Thanks, Anne! I didn't know about this adaptation, and will look for it.

>24 jessibud2: Thanks, Shelley! It will likely slow down soon, but we're off to a rip-roaring start in the 75ers group, aren't we?

I'm so glad that Amber tipped us off to that video in >13 scaifea:!

27msf59
Jan 6, 6:46pm Top

>21 msf59: Thanks, Anne. I will look for this one. I know someone also mentioned a British PBS, production, but I am not sure which one it is.

I am listening to NN on audio, with Simon Vance narrating. He is doing a stellar job.

28drneutron
Jan 6, 6:53pm Top

Happy new thread!

29vancouverdeb
Jan 6, 6:54pm Top

Happy New Thread, Joe and here's to a great New Year to you and yours!

30jnwelch
Jan 6, 6:58pm Top

>27 msf59: I suggest an NN movie for you up there, too, buddy.

>28 drneutron: Thanks, Jim!

>29 vancouverdeb: Thanks, Deb! Happy New Year to you and your gang!

31msf59
Jan 6, 7:05pm Top

>30 jnwelch: Thanks, Joe. I have added that one to the list too. Can anything beat our favorite Bleak House adaptation? Grins...

That is the standard-bearer...

32Storeetllr
Jan 6, 7:52pm Top

>1 jnwelch: Not me! Love it!

33majleavy
Jan 6, 9:28pm Top

Hey, Joe - remember this place?



Just had a bout of nostalgia and found this photo.

34humouress
Edited: Jan 6, 9:45pm Top

Happy new thread, Joe! I, for one, can't resist Art Deco. Hmm.... that gives me some ideas.

Oh, and >5 jnwelch:

35DeltaQueen50
Jan 6, 9:41pm Top

Love the Art Deco opening, Joe. Your cafe seems to be really hopping this year!

36NarratorLady
Jan 6, 10:53pm Top

>26 jnwelch: The RSC Nicholas Nickleby is a filmed stage play- not everyone’s cup of tea but should be fun for theater goers like you and Madame MBH.

37ffortsa
Jan 6, 11:38pm Top

>36 NarratorLady: They produced NN in new york with the same cast. Brilliant. I was one of the matinee-dinner-evening performance crowd.

38rretzler
Jan 7, 12:03am Top

Happy almost new thread, Joe! Love the Deco!

39PaulCranswick
Jan 7, 12:29am Top

Happy new one already, Joe.

No thread yet from your MBH?

Have a great Sunday, buddy.

40brodiew2
Edited: Jan 7, 2:41am Top

Happy new one, Joe. The topper art is fantastic! Right up my alley.

FYI: Listening to Bonhoeffer by Eric Metaxas.Pretty good so far.

41Ameise1
Jan 7, 4:24am Top

Happy Sunday and happy new thread, Joe. What a gorgeous topper.

42avatiakh
Jan 7, 7:25am Top

Hi Joe, just belatedly catching up. I liked reading your best graphic novels list on thread #1. I picked up Rise of the Dungeon master today from the library....and I must get back into Saga.

43jnwelch
Jan 7, 10:12am Top

>31 msf59: That BBC Bleak House adaptation was a knockout, wasn't it, Mark. I agree, the standard-bearer. Gillian Anderson - who would've known she could do that, from the X-Files?

>32 Storeetllr: Ha! I can't resist it either, Mary.

>33 majleavy: Hmmm. I recognize Borders in Ann Arbor, but after all these misty years, not the location, Michael. Is that on East Liberty?

I wonder how many in our group still have Borders bookmarks. I do!

44jnwelch
Jan 7, 10:16am Top

>34 humouress: Love those socks, Nina! I wouldn't be surprised if wife or daughter tracks those down for moi. This year Madame MBH gave me Philip K. Dick electric sheep socks. :-)

Art Deco is giving you ideas? Now you've got me curious. What ideas?

>35 DeltaQueen50: Thanks, Judy! We be hoppin'. I expect it'll slow down soon - the start of the year gets everything revved up.

45jnwelch
Jan 7, 10:20am Top

>36 NarratorLady: Right, I figgered, Anne. Thanks. You're right, we love theater, including on film. This sounds like a special Nicholas Nickleby one.

We've signed up with our local Music Box movie theater to be alerted when they're going to put filmed plays like "Follies" up on the big screen. Wouldn't it be something if they did this one like that?

>37 ffortsa: Oh, how lucky you are, Judy. Did anything stand out for you in seeing that performance of NN?

46jnwelch
Jan 7, 10:25am Top

>38 rretzler: Thanks, Robin! It's been an enthusiastic response to the Art Deco. I love it, too.

>39 PaulCranswick: Thanks, Paul. I think it's a bit too crazy now for Madame MBH. She'll start her new thread soon, though, I'm sure.

We get a (relative) warm-up today, about 30 F and -1 C. We're off to run errands shortly, and I know Madame MBH has chores in mind. I'd be lazing about if I were on my own, but I hope to squeeze in some of that laziness later today.

47karenmarie
Jan 7, 10:26am Top

Hi Joe! Happy new thread.

'Way back on your first thread The Princess Bride got mentioned, so I pulled As You Wish: Inconceivable Tales From the Making of The Princess Bride from my shelves. I just may actually read it....

And you mentioned Shoeless Joe, so I'll just mention that Shoeless Joe is a wonderful, wonderful book for those who haven't read it.

Happy Sunday! Stay warm. Read good books. *smile*

48jnwelch
Jan 7, 10:29am Top

>40 brodiew2: Thanks, Brodie. I'm glad you're enjoying the Art Deco. I didn't know that was right up your alley. I never know which ones are going to have broad appeal, but this sure has.

I'm ignorant of Mr. Bonhoeffer. I'll look forward to your comments on it. Sounds kind of like a Ben Macintyre book.

>41 Ameise1: Thanks, Barbara. I hope you're having a good weekend.

49jnwelch
Jan 7, 10:35am Top

>42 avatiakh: Hi, Kerry. Oh good. I know that graphic novel list means little to a lot of folks, but I'm always happy when it helps someone. I love seeing lists like that myself, to tip me off to ones I don't know about, or to let me know ones I've heard of are highly regarded by that person.

I was never a D & D guy, but our firm did represent Gary Gygax way back when. Enjoy the book!

>47 karenmarie: Hi, Karen. Our daughter LOVED As You Wish, and we gave it to our actress niece for Christmas. She was so excited, and immediately started reading it. Any Princess Bride fan would love it, sounds like.

I join you in recommending Shoeless Joe. Jeez, I haven't thought about that book in ages. It's really good, isn't it.

We're in a bit of a warm-up, so that'll help. Madame MBH is dead tired of the frigid cold, as I'm sure a lot of folks are!

50jnwelch
Edited: Jan 7, 10:37am Top



We need a weather break, Mother Nature!

51Crazymamie
Jan 7, 10:40am Top

>44 jnwelch: PKD electric sheep socks?! I must see these! I goggled - do they look like this?

52richardderus
Jan 7, 10:42am Top

>51 Crazymamie: Android's dream socks! Wonderful.

Happy Sunday, Joe.

53msf59
Jan 7, 10:54am Top

>50 jnwelch: It looks like we are going to get it, Buddha Buddy! FINALLY!!

Happy Sunday, Joe. We are hosting a birthday party for Sue's elderly aunt, but I hope to bookhorn in some reading beforehand. LT was been quite a time-suck this A.M.

Glad to see Buddhism is True spark a little discussion on my thread. Love to hear thoughts from this warm, open-minded group.

54humouress
Edited: Jan 7, 11:31am Top

>44 jnwelch: I thought I might hunt down an Art Deco colouring book (as I'm not good at other forms of art). My younger son and I have slowly been making our way through Secret Garden, which I picked up from the Botanic Gardens a couple of years before it went viral and we seem to really enjoy colouring together. I must say his style has evolved over the years, though.

Can't get the touchstones to show. Let's see if I can post a picture.

55SuziQoregon
Jan 7, 12:08pm Top

Well it was just yesterday so i can still legitimately say Happy New Thread.

That artwork up top is lovely.

>49 jnwelch: I listened to the audio of As You Wish, Then made The Hubster listen to it. Of course that meant we had to watch the movie again.

56laytonwoman3rd
Jan 7, 12:20pm Top

>43 jnwelch: I have lots of bookstore bookmarks, but I don't seem to find one from Borders, which is odd, because we used to have a store and I spent a lot of money there...

57jnwelch
Jan 7, 12:24pm Top

>51 Crazymamie: Yes, those be them electric sheep socks, Mamie. Ha! Cool, right? She surprised me, as she so often does.

>52 richardderus: Right, Richard? Happy Sunday, buddy.

>53 msf59: It's a slow warmup, says your Buddha buddy. It's 23 F for us - better, but not in the 30s yet. There was a wicked wind, too. Debbi's had enough, and calls herself "Grumpy McGrumpyface".

Yeah, I'm enjoying that Buddhism is True discussion on your thread, and you're right, it's great to have such an open-minded group. You're making me think of a new Buddha-related poem I did. I'll dig it out.

Have fun at the party, and I hope you can squeeze that reading in. I'm nearing the end of God Stalk, the one for Roni's GR, and then I'll finally get to Nicholas Nickleby. Looking forward to it.

58jnwelch
Jan 7, 12:32pm Top

>54 humouress: Gotcha, Nina. My wife and sisters and daughter all love doing the adult colouring books. My wife even has one on her iPad that works very well.

I've seen that Secret Garden one - it's a beaut. I'm a fan of the Frances Hodgson Burnett book, so I was hoping it was that. It's not, of course - someone should do that Burnett's story, maybe with the Inga Moore illustrations.

>55 SuziQoregon: Ha! You sure can say Happy New Thread, Juli. We're just starting out. I'm glad you find the top art lovely.

Heehee. I love the thorough treatment you're giving As You Wish and The Princess Bride. That movie really is timeless, isn't it. We saw it again recently and enjoyed it just as much. Among many other things, I miss Peter Falk.

>56 laytonwoman3rd: We have a drawer we keep bookmarks in, Linda, and it's fun to find ones from old stores like Borders. I just saw a couple in it from the Eliot Bay bookstore in Seattle, one of my favorite stores ever. But bookmarks pop up all over the place in our house - I wouldn't be surprised if a Borders one shows up for you, if you were there a lot.

59jessibud2
Jan 7, 12:59pm Top

I also have that book, As You Wish and am looking forward to getting to it sooner rather than later. I think I might want to watch the film again first though, since it's been eons since I first saw it. A weird coincidence is that it was on tv either last night or the night before, but I only found that out about an hour into it and I want to watch it from the beginning so I didn't tune in. I will find it again, I have no doubt

60jnwelch
Jan 7, 1:10pm Top

>59 jessibud2: The Princess Bride is regularly on cable here, Shelley, as are the Harry Potter movies. I'm sure you will find it again. Some movies draw a lot of folks for re-watching, and PB may be at the top of the list.

61benitastrnad
Edited: Jan 7, 1:55pm Top

I finished reading Warleggan on Friday night. That is book 4 in the Poldark series. Next up will be Black Moon. I hope to get it read this year. My working my way through the series is much slower than yours but I will eventually get them done.

I started the second in the Elena Ferrante Neopolatian series - Story of a New Name. I also intend to work my way through that series, but probably won’t get done with them this year either.

I started listening to Strange the Dreamer on the way back from Kansas. This is Laini Taylor’s new YA fantasy and I am loving it! It is causing me to have driveway moments for sure!

62RBeffa
Jan 7, 2:20pm Top

>43 jnwelch: I have one Border's bookmark and it is in verrry worn shape. But there could always be one hiding somewhere. Now that I think about it I would have expected several. I love my collection of bookmarks from faraway places, as well as closer ones, most long gone.

regarding that BBC Bleak House it was one of my favorites.

63luvamystery65
Jan 7, 3:05pm Top

Happy Sunday Joe

64majleavy
Jan 7, 8:25pm Top

>43 jnwelch: That's on S. State (211), so just a little north of the first two floor store - their original headquarters, I guess. The years are largely lost in mists to me, too, but I've always believed that they had one on E. Liberty between the State Street addresses.

Talking bookmarks, I have several still from THE Borders - they probably date to the late 70s or early 80s. The hours are listed: 12-6 on Sunday; 9:30-8:30, Thurs & Fri; 9:30 - 6 the rest of the week - about 30 hours less a week than the one I worked at in Westwood in the 90s.

65scaifea
Jan 8, 6:27am Top

Morning, Joe!

66jnwelch
Jan 8, 7:57am Top

>65 scaifea: Morning, Amber! Hope the week starts out well for you.

>61 benitastrnad: Hi, Benita. Oh, you're coming up on a big one in the series. Black Moon even gets referenced again in the last book. Good for you for sticking with it. It's quite a series, isn't it.

Madame MBH loved that Elena Ferrante series. I've read good things about Strange the Dreamer, and I enjoyed those previous Laini Taylor books. I'll look forward to your comments. Ha! You know it's got you when you start having those driveway moments.

67jnwelch
Edited: Jan 8, 9:01am Top

>62 RBeffa: Hiya, Ron. Yeah, the bookmarks tend to get beat up a bit over time. Having a small drawer for them helps us keep them in decent shape. I'm like you; it's fun to see them from near and far. We've got some from our Australia trip years ago that always make me smile, and one from a bookstore in the San Juan Islands (near Seattle) that does the same. Borders will live on in those bookmarks.

>63 luvamystery65: Thanks, Roberta. I hope you had a relaxing Sunday. I'm a slowpoke, so here we are at the start of the week. Thanks for stopping by despite your crammed schedule.

68jnwelch
Edited: Jan 8, 9:03am Top

>64 majleavy: I didn't know you'd worked at a Borders, Michael! Yeah, that two story one in Ann Arbor is the one I remember. It was their ahead-of-the-pack inventory system that supposedly fueled their spreading all over the country.

Here's a question for you: do you remember Centicore Bookshop in Ann Arbor? That's the one I managed when I was a young lad. The two Centicores were owned by the Rudolphs (great folks); one was near Jacobson's, and I managed the other one on South University. Borders was the big competitor back then.

Hmm, there's an appeal to that more limited hours open schedule on the bookmarks, but having enjoyed the work, more hours sounds good to me.

69jnwelch
Edited: Jan 8, 8:58am Top

70msf59
Jan 8, 9:28am Top

Morning, Joe! I decided to take the day off, so books and a walk in the woods are on my agenda.

I have had As You Wish saved on audio, forever. I would like to tie it in, with seeing the film again. It has been may years.

Glad you started Nickelby. It is a lot of fun.

71Crazymamie
Jan 8, 9:35am Top

>69 jnwelch: Ha!

Morning, Joe! Latte me up, please - you know what day it is.

72EBT1002
Jan 8, 11:01am Top

>5 jnwelch: My beloved Tennessee cousin sent a pair of those to P when she had her hip surgery in September. :-)

Morning Joe!

I'm still reading and loving Why Buddhism is True. It's got me thinking about integrating meditation into my life....

73brodiew2
Jan 8, 11:06am Top

Good morning, Joe! I've already switched to water, as one iced mocha and a bit of stress already has me one edge. :-P

74richardderus
Jan 8, 11:12am Top

Blergh

mnffnr

sppssppppt

(translation: whatever has fat, sugar, and/or caffeine, bring it)

75Whisper1
Jan 8, 11:16am Top

>3 jnwelch: Good Morning Joe. As I write it is overcast with a sky waiting to snow. The bitter cold snap of late has kept us indoors. It is a great time to read. I see that Lincoln in the Bardo was one of your top reads of 2017. I confess that this book haunted me. I'm going to read your review and see your thoughts.

76majleavy
Jan 8, 11:30am Top

>68 jnwelch: Centicore... the name is certainly familiar, and I can picture in my mind the interior of a store across the street from Jacobson's more or less. Was it upstairs?

As to working at Borders, the was back in my acting days. I mostly worked the overnight shift, stocking and maintaining the shelves. Did spend time on the floor though. Rang up a bunch of art books for Janet Jackson (she didn't speak - had an assistant for that) and had a little chat at the register with Matt Groening about a Brian O'Nolan (Flann O'Brien) book he was buying.

77ffortsa
Jan 8, 2:27pm Top

>45 jnwelch: The stage play of Nickolas Nickleby was wonderful, Joe. I was besotted with the staging and the technique used to bring that era to life - somehow I'm remembering a silent mime of starving people at a restaurant window - and the acting itself was incandescent. My playbill collection tells me I saw an understudy as Smike, which might have been sad because David Threlfall got such good notices, but as I recall the performer was terrific. Oh, there's a scene toward the end where the boys are freed and told to run away and Smike tries to understand where 'away' is - so heartbreaking. (or was it 'anywhere' - my memory is unclear)

And as it was a two-parter, and not everyone saw both parts on the same day, the cast did a hysterically funny sped-up reminder of everything that happened in the first half, at the beginning of the second half. And I remember Roger Rhees, so tall and slim and full of fire in the title role.
Ah - thinking about it takes me back.

>36 NarratorLady: Oh, is there really a filmed stage play? I think I may have seen it televised and may even have the old VHS tapes.

78cameling
Jan 8, 2:34pm Top

I saw a photo of some massive icicles hanging off a fire escape on a building in Chicago on the news. Beautiful and deadly.

I hope you're staying in and immersing yourself in Nicholas Nickleby

79NarratorLady
Jan 8, 2:52pm Top

>77 ffortsa: I believe that PBS broadcast it once. Several years later I spotted the DVD set for about $40 and snatched it up. Haven't watched it in years but as we still have a seldom used player, this discussion has inspired me to watch again.

80jnwelch
Edited: Jan 8, 2:54pm Top

>70 msf59: Morning, Mark!

As You Wish sounds like a lot of fun. I'm even tempted, and I don't often read books like that.

I'm really enjoying Nicholas Nickleby. Poor Nicholas and Smike!

>71 Crazymamie: Thanks for your patience, Mamie! Latte coming up, maybe with a side dish.

81jnwelch
Jan 8, 2:59pm Top

>72 EBT1002: Morning, Ellen! I love those socks. Good for your cousin - it makes particular sense after hip surgery.

I've had this discussion with Mark - I'm very pro-meditation. Studies have borne out its benefits. You just have to be patient with yourself - particularly at the beginning, as our normal state is what sometimes is called "monkey mind", with thoughts jumping all over the place. I'm so glad you're loving Why Buddhism is True. He really nails it for Westerners, IMO.

>73 brodiew2: I can tell we're very different on this part of life, Brodie. One iced mocha would barely lift my eyelids. I normally need multiple coffee goodness and three sticks of dynamite in the morning.

82jnwelch
Jan 8, 3:05pm Top

>74 richardderus: Thank you for the translation, Richard! That sounds a bit like cephalopod lingo.

Here you go, buddy.



>75 Whisper1: Good morning, Linda! Lincoln in the Bardo is haunting, isn't it. That connection between Lincoln and his son, wow. I'm glad you want to read the review. Maybe I'll go take another look!

83jnwelch
Jan 8, 3:13pm Top

>76 majleavy: Ah, your acting days. I like the sounds of that, Michael. What kinds of things were you in? Our niece Amy Landecker worked at Starbucks while working her way up in acting, and made me like the company - she was very happy with the benefits they provided.

Centicore was a ground floor store. In addition to a good book selection, they sold some small sculptures and art prints from overseas (Italy and Spain, mainly, I believe).

Janet Jackson (and her assistant)! Nice. My big moment was when my hero Muhammad Ali mistook the Chicago bookstore I worked in (Barbara's) for an Islamic bookstore that was further south. He realized pretty quickly, but I ran out to the street and somehow in my dazed happiness negotiated through his bodyguards and shook his hand. I ridiculously said I'd seen all his fights; totally untrue. (I had seen all the televised ones). He smiled and humored me.

84jnwelch
Jan 8, 3:23pm Top

>77 ffortsa: That sounds so good, Judy. I wish I could have seen it, but at least Anne has given us the lead on the filmed play.

Understudies can be terrific; our actor niece Amy got her big "a star is born" moment here as an understudy for Blanche in the Steppenwolf production of Streetcar Named Desire, with Gary Sinise as Stanley. She killed it, and got a big write-up in the paper.

>78 cameling: Hi, Caro. Yikes. Yeah, when I worked downtown, I used to shake my head at the "Watch for falling ice" signs on the sidewalk, underneath some skyscrapers. Yeah, right, like you can do that. Those icicles can be scary.

It does remind me of our niece's 12 year old daughter who is growing up in LA. She hadn't seen icicles before, and was enchanted by some modest ones hanging from a low roof by Starbucks. She's snapping photos, and I told her they're fun to knock down, too. Giggling the whole time, she reached up and one by one knocked them down. Wonderful to be reminded of how great icicles are.

We've had to be out until now, but it's warming up a lot here. I hope that warmth makes it out your way! I'm thoroughly enjoying Nicholas Nickleby.

85jnwelch
Jan 8, 3:25pm Top

>79 NarratorLady: This talk about that stage production of Nicholas Nickleby is inspiring me, too, Anne, so thanks again for bringing it up. Good to know there's a DVD set if I can't find it on the tube.

86magicians_nephew
Edited: Jan 8, 4:19pm Top

I read As You Wish a few years ago when Cary Elwes was doing a book tour and came to New York.

The book is funny but the movie is better.

Wonderful to think that Wally Shawn kept thinking he was going to be fired from playing Vissig

And that Robin Wright and Elwes really had a little thing going during the filming .

And the story of the guy who was supposed to play the R . O . U . S. makes me chuckle every time i think about it

To think of the movie without him is "Inconceivable"

87richardderus
Jan 8, 4:33pm Top

Now freezing rain. I swaNEE. That's just going to freeze into rink-level ice!

But tomorrow is promised to be almost 40°. Wow! Bathing suit weather!

88karenmarie
Jan 8, 4:45pm Top

Hi Joe! Happy Monday to you.

89jnwelch
Jan 8, 5:15pm Top

>86 magicians_nephew: Thanks, Jim. How could Wright and Elwes not have a bit of a thing going? What a fantasy to meet each other in.

Wallace Shawn thinking he'd get fired? Inconceivable!

You've got me curious about the R.O.U.S. guy.

>87 richardderus: Eesh. Yeah, it's all starting to melt here, and it sounds like it will for you, Richard, starting tomorrow.

Some of our citizens are already breaking out the shorts here, I'm sure. For some of the young guys, I always wonder whether it's a chance to postpone doing laundry. Many pride themselves on wearing shorts whenever it gets above freezing, and some do it even when it's below.

>88 karenmarie: Hi, Karen. I still can feel the effects of this day of the week from when I was a working Joe, and I avoid naming it. But thanks, and Happy This Day Here We're Having to you, too.

90Caroline_McElwee
Jan 8, 5:21pm Top

>83 jnwelch: glad you got to shake the hand of an extraordinary man Joe.

91jnwelch
Jan 8, 5:24pm Top

>90 Caroline_McElwee: Thanks, Caroline. It was a dream come true. Thank goodness something about my happiness (I guess) caused Muhammad Ali's bodyguards not to stop me!

92jnwelch
Edited: Jan 8, 5:27pm Top

OK, we've been talking some about Buddhism due to the Why Buddhism is True book, especially on Mark's thread, and I said I'd post a Buddha-related poem I'd done recently. I'm hoping not to offend anyone. I just like Jesus without all the add-ons from others, and the same for Buddha, to extent we can get at it. Here we go.

Jesus as Buddha

I told them I was the Son of
Man. None of this
Son of God crap.
They added the Throne in Heaven,
The references to my Father.
I just wanted them to be
Compassionate, to give to
One another, to appreciate
This Gift of a world.

Miracles: just stop the
Separation, open up to
What's here, it wants to
Work with you, not
Fight.
Hang around long enough and
Unusual things happen.
Always. Wash your
Eyes and heart clean and
It's all unusual.
If it's "the usual", then you're
Not seeing it, not feeling it.

Holy, holy, holy.
Sure - but here, not some
Cloud life after.
Make it holy here.
Treat others right.
Stop all these
Assumptions, presuppositions.
Greet everything, everyone, anew.

Forget God or his Son.
Sit under a tree,
Appreciate this earth.
Listen to it.

93Caroline_McElwee
Jan 8, 5:32pm Top

Love it Joe. Will be copying it into my Commonplace Book.

94NarratorLady
Jan 8, 5:35pm Top

>85 jnwelch: I just checked and my Library network has 3 copies of the RSC’s Nicholas Nickleby. That might be a place to start. Of course, great as it is, the book is better. I can’t think of an instance where that is not true, can you?

95EBT1002
Jan 8, 5:47pm Top

>92 jnwelch: I love it.

96rosalita
Edited: Jan 8, 5:50pm Top

>92 jnwelch: I like your poem very much, Joe, and not at all offensive to me. I have not meditated, but I occasionally attend a Quaker meeting in the very small town where I live, where the worship service is just silent contemplation unless someone feels compelled to share a thought. I definitely struggle with "monkey mind" during this, and would very much like to find a way to change that. I heard the author of Meditation for Fidgety Skeptics on NPR recently — and thought I need to pick up a copy!

97jnwelch
Edited: Jan 8, 6:01pm Top

>93 Caroline_McElwee: Oh glad to hear it, Caroline. I'm honored to have it go in your Commonplace book. I'll bet that book is chock full of good ones.

>94 NarratorLady: You know, I think there are instances where the movie is better than the book. Not often, but once in a while. It may happen most when the book isn't that great. :-) The Godfather movies come to mind. The Puzo book was more of a potboiler than a work of art, right? And the movies were classics. Psycho is another one, I bet, although I didn't read the {Robert Bloch book.

Good idea re the library for the filmed play.

98richardderus
Jan 8, 6:04pm Top

For me in my own personal world of entertainment, I think many of the Suchet adaptations of Dame Aggie's Poirots are superior to their source material.

*flees*

99jnwelch
Edited: Jan 8, 6:31pm Top

>95 EBT1002: Oh good, Ellen! Thanks.

P.S. A traditional Buddha story is that when he became enlightened under the Bodhi tree, Mara (kind of a demon) disputed it. The earth beneath Buddha then said, "I bear witness" (to his enlightenment). (Likely another "add-on"!) So there's a bit of subtext to the ending of the poem.

>96 rosalita: Excellent, Julia. There are some folks who are very attached to what I call the "add-ons", but our group is wonderfully open-minded.

I love the title of Meditation for Fidgety Skeptics! There are a lot of different ways to meditate. I was taught to focus on my breath, and I'm a fan of that approach, but there are lots of ways to do it, including mantras. This is a good basic intro online to types of meditation: https://liveanddare.com/types-of-meditation

100jnwelch
Jan 8, 6:23pm Top

>98 richardderus: Woo. If our daughter hears that one, Richard, you'd better flee faster. She loves the Suchet Poirots, but would never put them above Dame Aggie's originals.

101brenzi
Jan 8, 6:38pm Top

Well I totally missed your first thread Joe but I’m here now. You’re making me think I should read Nicholas Nickleby. I am already a Dickens fan so...

102msf59
Jan 8, 6:48pm Top

>84 jnwelch: I did not realize your niece, Amy was an understudy, in Streetcar with Gary Sinese. How cool is that? Did you see the performance?

I was fortunate to see Gary Sinese just once, in a Steppenwolf production of The Grapes of Wrath, playing, of course Tom Joad. Did you see that one?

103msf59
Edited: Jan 8, 6:54pm Top

>92 jnwelch:

"Holy, holy, holy.
Sure - but here, not some
Cloud life after.
Make it holy here.
Treat others right."

"Forget God or his Son.
Sit under a tree,
Appreciate this earth.
Listen to it."

^I have really enjoyed several of your poems, Joe, but "Jesus as Buddha" may be my favorite. Thanks so much for sharing. I think they would have been perfect buds and I think Wright might have alluded to that in the book.

104jessibud2
Edited: Jan 8, 10:54pm Top

>92 jnwelch: - Amen to that, Joe (and this, from a very non-religious me!) :-)

105jnwelch
Jan 8, 10:19pm Top

>101 brenzi: Hi, Bonnie. Nicholas Nickleby has been really enjoyable. Given that you're already a Dickens fan, sounds like it's a natch for you.

>102 msf59: Hiya, Mark. We saw that production of Streetcar, but not with Amy as Blanche, darn it. The Sun-Times actually said, "a star is born" after her performance.

We did not see that production of Grapes of Wrath, darn it. We've been Steppenwolf subscribers since forever, so we had to be gone somewhere. It was supposed to be terrific. I'm glad you saw it. Great cast.

106jnwelch
Edited: Jan 8, 10:31pm Top

>103 msf59: Ha! Thanks, buddy. Great to hear this one might be your favorite. I think they would have been perfect buds. Yes! What a meetup that would've been.

>104 jessibud2: If you're non-religious and like it, Shelley, that's a good sign. Thanks!

107majleavy
Jan 8, 10:49pm Top

>83 jnwelch: What kinds of things was I in? Financial trouble, mostly. My biggest Hollywood moments were a silent bit in Mel Brooks' Robin Hood: Men in Tights and a scene with Larry David from the pilot of Curb - which ended up on the cutting room floor. Did lots of plays, of course, Shakespeare and what not, but never made any money at it to speak of.

I see from her IMDB bio that your niece was in Curb, too. She's climbed greater heights that I managed to; good for her.

Shook hands with Ali!!!! OMG!!!! I idolized him as a youth, and have always held him in the highest regard. Maybe the only other person in the universe I ever wanted more badly to meet was Ornette Coleman. Oh, and - when I was in middle school - Forrest J. Ackerman, maybe. Would have more to talk about with him, anyway.

Always intriguing to hear about the famous folk we've met, isn't it?

108rretzler
Jan 9, 12:51am Top

>98 richardderus: *gasp*, Richard. What blasphemy! I certainly do agree that David Suchet is Poirot (take that, Kenneth Branagh!), but to me, the books are far and away better than the show.

And speaking of other Poirots - who could ever condone a Poirot who walks around looking for clues? I saw the trailer for the new Murder on the Orient Express, where Kenneth Branagh was outside in the snow, and it immediately turned me off. I thought - who does he think he is? Sherlock Holmes? Looking for clues instead of using the little grey cells? Sophie Hannah's new Poirot series has him out galavanting around for clues as well - no thanks!

109ronincats
Jan 9, 12:57am Top

Me! I've still got a Borders bookmark. And I love your Jesus as Buddha poem!

110scaifea
Edited: Jan 9, 6:24am Top

Morning, Joe!

111humouress
Jan 9, 7:57am Top

I’m actually very good at meditating - wait; is that different from falling asleep?

>98 richardderus: You seem to be getting a lot of exercise these days, Richard. But in this case, I may have to join you. Wait for me...

112Carmenere
Jan 9, 8:11am Top

Happy belated 2nd thread, Joe! All caught up here and lots of good chatter.

113karenmarie
Jan 9, 8:20am Top

Hi Joe!

>92 jnwelch: Jesus without all the add-ons. Yes indeed. I read the Bible last year, OT and NT, and mentioned several times that the only parts of the NT that resonated with me were Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, since all the rest was church politics and apocalypse. To me, gleaning Jesus' words out of those first four books is very much like what you've written above.

114ChelleBearss
Jan 9, 8:41am Top

Morning Joe! That's very cool that you shook hands with Ali! I haven't met anyone more famous than a local news program anchor. She came as a date to my wedding and was a super big snob!
I saw Anne Murphy (from Schitt's Creek) at a play in Stratford. She had been sitting behind us and when we stood to leave I saw her. By the time I clued in that it was her the theatre was already clearing out and I lost her in the crowd.

115richardderus
Jan 9, 9:36am Top

>100 jnwelch:, >108 rretzler:, >111 humouress: Unpopular my opinion may very well be, or inspiring to other closeted "this-really-is-better" visualites, but hey at least I know my own mind. I see a lot of me-tooism in the modern world and worry about its long-term effects...then remind myself it's the Standard Operating Procedure of the Universe.

Happy Tuesday-but-who-cares-we're-retired!

116jnwelch
Jan 9, 10:28am Top

>107 majleavy: Hey, Michael. Acting is such a tough profession. You must have a very thick skin and a lot of stamina? Good for you for all you accomplished - what was your favorite part in a play?

We're so happy for Amy. She didn't have it easy, and for many years helped pay the rent with voiceovers. She was the voice for a long time for the drug Cymbalta on tv, and that helped a lot. We tease her about her turn as the voice of Velveeta. She hit the mother lode with Transparent. She was on Curb Your Enthusiasm, you're right, and dated Larry David for a while. Now it's Bradley Whitford.

Anyway, kudos to you. Yeah, she still can't believe she made it to where she is. I remember pushing her around on a chair with wheels in our house when she was three or so (she loved it), so I've seen her go through a lot.

Forrest J. Ackerman! I really knew nothing about him, and should have, since I'm a sci-fi buff. I love that he's a hero of yours. And Ornette Coleman - nice pick. I'd probably pick Springsteen next.

117jnwelch
Jan 9, 10:29am Top

I'm going to be tied up for a while this morning, so I'll catch up later.

118magicians_nephew
Edited: Jan 9, 12:30pm Top

Forrie Ackerman! Famous Monsters of Filmland?

Joe we have to talk.

Voice over work was exciting when I was doing it - paid really well too. Most of that work is out in LA now

119jnwelch
Jan 9, 1:04pm Top

>108 rretzler: Our daughter was disappointed by the Branagh movie, too, Robin, and mention they're being out in the snow like that, as an unnecessary departure from the book.

I don't know whether she's tried the Sophie Hannah book. I'll have to ask. There are Sherlock pastiches she's enjoyed.

>109 ronincats: Ha! You! I'm glad you still have a Borders bookmark, Roni, and I'm even happier that you liked the poem. I never know how they're going to come across, although I felt good about this one.

120jnwelch
Jan 9, 1:08pm Top

>110 scaifea: Morning and afternoon, Amber! What does Jim Carrey say in the Truman Show? "Good morning, and in case I don't see ya, good afternoon, good evening, and good night!"

>111 humouress: There is a slight difference between meditation and falling asleep, Nina. In the former you're still awake. :-) In fact, if you get good enough at it, you're really awake! We use the word enlightened, but another, maybe better, translation is Awakened One.

Good luck catching up with RD.

121brodiew2
Jan 9, 1:10pm Top

Hello Joe. I hope all is well with you.



Just adding a little deco fun to the thread.

122jnwelch
Jan 9, 1:12pm Top

>112 Carmenere: Thanks, Lynda. Good to have you in the cafe. So far I'm staying out of trouble.

>113 karenmarie: gleaning Jesus' words out of those first four books is very much like what you've written above. Oh, I like hearing that. That's the idea. Many years ago I'd said something like you just did, and a friend found a little book for me that was just Jesus's words, without the add-ons. Fascinating, and a much better read, IMO, than the Bible. I wonder where that book is now? I haven't seen it in ages.

123jnwelch
Edited: Jan 9, 1:32pm Top

>121 brodiew2: Hello Brodie. All is well on my end, and I hope it is on yours. You're looking quite deco-dashing today.

>114 ChelleBearss: Isn't that cool re Ali, Chelle? He really was larger than life. The charisma of that guy. People on the street were agog.

You know, we're only specks in a very big universe. Why anyone would be snooty is beyond me, and a local news anchor - really?! What a way to look at the world. As Julia Roberts said in Notting Hill, you know, this fame thing isn't really real.

It's a six degrees of separation thing, I guess - if you move around, you're probably going to run into a celeb like Anne Murphy at some point. One of my wife's favorites was when we went to see Helen Mirren in The Audience, and James Earl Jones was a couple of rows in front of us, enjoying the play. Mirren was the queen (so good!); he might've been the king for that audience.

124jnwelch
Jan 9, 1:30pm Top

>115 richardderus: Keep the contrarian views coming, Richard. That's part of why we love you. Who needs boring? Kudos to you for being honest.

Happy Tuesday-but-who-cares-we're-retired! I wish I'd read that earlier; I worked on something complicated earlier, and my semblance of calm disappeared way too quickly.

>118 magicians_nephew: That's the Ackie, Jim. Good memory!

I look forward to our talk. The niece got good commercial voice over work here in Chicago, then went to seek success in NYC, then decided she'd better get her butt to LA. Good decision. She still does voice over work; she has a 12 year old and wants to be sure she can cover her education, although Transparent pays well.

You did this - what kind of voice over work, or should we save that for when we're in the same vicinity?

125majleavy
Jan 9, 2:07pm Top

>116 jnwelch: Favorite role? Probably Bri in A Day in the Death of Joe Egg. The climactic scene and ensuing monologue concerning his failed attempt to euthanize his severely disabled daughter are really emotionally complex and it is so compelling to have those minutes on stage where the entire audience is breathing with you.

Re: Forrie. I don't know how it is that I lived so many years in LA without visiting the Ackermansion. For a horror film fan, as I so adamantly was for so many years, it's like being in Rome and not checking out the Sistine Chapel.

126msf59
Jan 9, 2:34pm Top

Hi, Joe. Glad you are having a good time with Nickelby. You should be just a few chapters behind me. I just started 18. I hope to go full blast again tomorrow, when I get back to work, since I am doing it on audio.

Have a great time seeing The Last Jedi! You guys should love it. Matt and I are going to see "Ladybird", late this afternoon, when he gets home from work. I have heard nothing but great things about that film.

127jnwelch
Jan 9, 2:42pm Top

>125 majleavy: Darn it, I wish it was a play we'd seen. Sounds like quite a role!

My wife's a storyteller, and loves being center stage with the entire audience breathing with her. It must be remarkable. I've given lots of information-filled talks (well, I try to be humorous, too), but that's not the same. And honestly, I don't get the same charge out of being up there that she does.

it's like being in Rome and not checking out the Sistine Chapel. Ha! Love that, Michael.

128jnwelch
Edited: Jan 9, 2:45pm Top

129richardderus
Jan 9, 6:36pm Top

>128 jnwelch: WOW!!! What an illusion!

130scaifea
Jan 10, 6:25am Top

Morning, Joe!

131karenmarie
Jan 10, 7:16am Top

Hi Joe! Today should make you much happier than when I stepped into it above in >88 karenmarie: - Happy Hump Day!

Mark tells me that it is you I have to thank/blame for the BB of Why Buddhism is True, which is on its way courtesy of Amazon.

132jnwelch
Jan 10, 8:15am Top

>129 richardderus: Ha! Isn't that, RD?

>130 scaifea: Morning, Amber!

>131 karenmarie: Hi, Karen! Ha! That day still gives me the heebie-jeebies. Happy Hump Day!

Oh good, that's nice of our friend Mark. Why Buddhism is True is really well done. Both my sisters are enjoying it, too.

133jnwelch
Jan 10, 8:18am Top



I just loved the look of this

134Crazymamie
Jan 10, 8:41am Top

>133 jnwelch: Very cool! Morning, Joe!

135richardderus
Jan 10, 8:53am Top

>133 jnwelch: If it's Photoshop, it's art; if it's a natural, unmassaged photo image, it's a masterpiece.

136jnwelch
Jan 10, 9:16am Top

>134 Crazymamie: Right, Mamie? Good morning!

>135 richardderus: I assumed it was natural, RD, and didn't think of the other for this one. I'll hope it's a masterpiece, but art would be okay, too.

137rosalita
Jan 10, 9:38am Top

>133 jnwelch: What a gorgeous image! Thanks for sharing it, Joe.

138drneutron
Jan 10, 10:14am Top

Wow, that's a cool pic.

139ffortsa
Jan 10, 10:27am Top

>133 jnwelch: Wonderful picture, Joe.

140Caroline_McElwee
Jan 10, 11:57am Top

>133 jnwelch: Stunning.

141ChelleBearss
Jan 10, 12:21pm Top

>123 jnwelch: It's funny how a little bit of fame can affect some people. Some minor celebrities (like the snotty news anchor) can let it go right to their head and think they are so much better than us normal people, while some super star billionaires are so normal and down to earth.
I'd like to think that I would stay down to earth but if I had billions of dollars I wouldn't be a snob, I'd be hiding from everyone on a private island with lots of books! ;-p

142EBT1002
Jan 10, 12:34pm Top

>99 jnwelch: Oh, I like that detail.

I was reading in chapter 8 of WBiT this morning and I have an appt with my therapist this afternoon. I'm thinking about asking her if she can help me experiment with meditation. I predict she will say yes. So we'll see how this goes.

>133 jnwelch: Wow.

143jnwelch
Jan 10, 12:40pm Top

>137 rosalita: Thanks, Julia. You're welcome! I'm a sucker for stormy weather.

>138 drneutron: Ha! Glad you like it, Jim. Agreed.

>139 ffortsa: Thanks, Judy. I'm still ticked about your book club. I think they should've talked to you about it before doing anything like that. Just doesn't seem right.

144jnwelch
Jan 10, 12:44pm Top

>140 Caroline_McElwee: Isn't it, Caroline? I love that our computers can convey that beauty.

>141 ChelleBearss: I know, Chelle, and some people get so full of themselves with so little reason to, right? A certain president comes to mind.

I'm hoping we win the Powerball and get to test your theory. I imagine we'll stay grounded if that happens, although the tbr shelf may balloon. A private island with books - good plan!

145jnwelch
Jan 10, 12:48pm Top

>142 EBT1002: Right, Ellen? I think about him under the tree a lot.

Cool - I hope your therapist does say yes. Sure seems like the benefits of meditation are becoming generally accepted - and he's so persuasive in Why Buddhism is True), isn't he.

I join your wow. It comes through so clearly in >133 jnwelch:. I feel like I'm there.

146brodiew2
Jan 10, 2:45pm Top

Hello Joe! I hope things are warming up or

>128 jnwelch: Fascinating!

>133 jnwelch: Compelling image, Joe. The clarity of it compels one to take a closer look and then try to put it into context.

147DeltaQueen50
Jan 10, 3:18pm Top

Hi Joe. I loved your story of meeting Muhammad Ali. It's so nice when a celebrity, especially a personal favorite, is actually approachable and not condescending or standoffish.

148jnwelch
Jan 10, 5:50pm Top

>146 brodiew2: Things are warming up, thanks, Brodie. We're in the mid-40s, and it's supposed to go higher tomorrow. We can use the break.

Isn't >128 jnwelch: a fun one? I'm glad >133 jnwelch: grabbed your attention like that. Mine, too.

>147 DeltaQueen50: Hiya, Judy. It was really fun meeting Ali. Our kids love the part of the story where in the excitement of meeting him I tell him I'd seen all his fights (nope), and he humored me. Also, my big smile and happiness somehow getting me through his bodyguards. He was a mensch.

149msf59
Jan 10, 6:09pm Top

>126 msf59: I think you may have missed me up there. Not very mindful...grins.

>133 jnwelch: LOVE!

Hi, Joe. Back to the grind today, so late check in. Finally bought a copy of Devotions: Poems and received it today. Do you have a copy?

Just started Chapter 25 in Nickelby. It keeps going in interesting directions.

150FAMeulstee
Jan 10, 6:31pm Top

Hi Joe, belated happy new thread!

I didn't have much time catching up the last few days and find some threads have gone mad. On yours 150+ posts...
>1 jnwelch: I love Art Deco and Art Nouveau.

151rretzler
Jan 10, 6:41pm Top

>133 jnwelch: What a great pic! I'd prefer to believe it's natural and not photoshopped, and if so, the photographer is a genius!

>119 jnwelch: Glad we didn't see the movie then. I just didn't think I could watch it after seeing them walk around in the snow. The earlier movie was so well-done, it would be hard to surpass.

152Berly
Jan 11, 2:43am Top

Hi Joe! LOVE your Jesus as Buddha poem. And N2. And the photo on >133 jnwelch:. I like being here!

153scaifea
Jan 11, 6:24am Top

Morning, Joe!

154ChelleBearss
Jan 11, 9:37am Top

>144 jnwelch: good luck with the power ball! I’ll cross my fingers for you!

155richardderus
Jan 11, 10:09am Top

Hey Joe. Happy Who-Cares-What-Day-It-Is! Powerball winning sounds like Tome Home time to me.

Be warm!

156jnwelch
Edited: Jan 11, 10:35am Top

>149 msf59: Ah, I did miss you up there, buddy, thanks. I'm in Nicholas Nickleby where John Browdie saved Smike, and Nicholas is thanking him when the Squeers all show up. Fun stuff. He can spin a tale, this Dickens.

We thoroughly enjoyed the new Star Wars movie, and I saw your positive reaction to Lady Bird. It's in our future, maybe on the small screen.

I have read Devotions: Selected Poems; I didn't realize it was a selection and not a separate, stand on its own, volume. I'll look forward to hearing what you think. I'm re-reading a Neruda selected poems collection, Full Woman, Fleshly Apple.

I'm getting out and about soon in this warm weather - it all supposedly comes crashing down again tomorrow. Have a good one.

157jnwelch
Jan 11, 10:17am Top

>150 FAMeulstee: Hi, Anita. Yeah, many of the threads are hopping right now. It'll slow down soon, I expect. We'll just have fun with the ride for now.

I'm glad you like the art. I had no idea we had so many Art Deco fans. Cool stuff.

>151 rretzler: I'm with you on >133 jnwelch:, Robin. Isn't it amazing?

Right, the earlier movie of Murder on the Orient Express was a classic. It sounds like Branagh messed with the story in the wrong way. Even the mustache of Poirot, while bold, is wrong. Poirot was fastidious about keeping it neat and groomed.

158jnwelch
Jan 11, 10:24am Top

>152 Berly: Hi, Kim! Oh, thanks so much re the poem. N2 is even better than I expected. I love them Cheerybles! And I get drawn into >133 jnwelch: every time I look at it.

Great to hear you like being here! That's what it's all about. It's great to have you here!

>153 scaifea: Morning, Amber!

>154 ChelleBearss: Ha! Thanks, Chelle. Of course, my darn do-gooder wife is planning on who to help once we win the Powerball. (I start dreaming about graphic novels . . .) We agree on one thing - we'd like to get a big flat in London. I'll keep you posted. :-)

>155 richardderus: Ha! Right - win the Powerball and it's Tome Home time, Richard. Great minds think alike. Although I suspect you wouldn't be dreaming about graphic novels.

It's warm, if rainy, here today, so I'm going to get out and enjoy it. I hope you can stay warm yourownself, and that you have a great Who-Cares-What-Day-It-Is!

159jnwelch
Edited: Jan 11, 10:30am Top



Rainy and warm here. Catch you later in the day.

160richardderus
Jan 11, 10:38am Top

>159 jnwelch: What a beautiful image that is. Makes cold rain look romantic and charming instead of bone-chilling and unpleasant.

161msf59
Jan 11, 10:55am Top

Morning, Joe. Sweet Thursday. Feels balmy out here. Glad you are having a good time with Nickelby.

And hooray for the Neruda collection. One of my absolute favorites.

162ChelleBearss
Jan 11, 12:42pm Top

>158 jnwelch: I had to look up the Powerball as we don't have that one here. Looks like with 50 million your wife could help a ton of people and you could fill that London flat with graphic novels and floor to ceiling books shelves and still have tons leftover! I'll cross my fingers for you.
Our LottoMax is only at 10 million right now but I could do a ton with that! Guess I should buy a ticket!

163brodiew2
Jan 11, 12:46pm Top

Hello Joe! I hope all is well with you.

>159 jnwelch: Another ominous image with distinct color contrasts. What going on in your head, dude? :-)

164jnwelch
Edited: Jan 11, 10:23pm Top

>161 msf59: Sweet Thursday, buddy. We're enjoying the balminess.

The Neruda book is another great translation by Stephen Mitchell. The Erika Sanchez collection you recommend just came in, too.

I'm most of the way through Nicholas Nickleby, with Ralph and Nicholas battling.

>162 ChelleBearss: Yeah, Powerball and Mega Millions are two of the big ones here. They get up to ridiculously huge numbers - over $500 million for the first one last weekend, and I think over $400 million for the other. Yeah, one of those would allow for charity and graphic novels, along with a London flat, with a bit left over. :-)

>163 brodiew2: Hello Brodie! There must be a storm brewing in my head, my friend. Maybe some lightning-like great idea will come crashing in?

165LovingLit
Jan 11, 10:55pm Top

What a terrible oversight! I missed your whole first thread, and half of your second! I *Knew* there was something missing from my life, I just couldn't put my finger on it ;)

Glad to hear you too enjoyed the newest Star Wars, I went twice (once to vet it for the kids, and the second time with the kid for whom it was appropriate, and his cousin). I liked it a lot, both times!

166Familyhistorian
Jan 12, 12:48am Top

I'm late checking in on your thread, Joe. Love the art deco toppers. You do realize that many of the Suchet Poirots were heavy into art deco? That is part of what sets them apart.

167jnwelch
Jan 12, 8:24am Top

>165 LovingLit: Ha! Wondered where you were, Megan. Good to have you back!

I'm glad the new Star Wars stood up well to a second viewing. A bet a lot of folks are seeing it multiple times. As I said with the last one, thank goodness they cast Daisy Ridley. She really makes it work.

>166 Familyhistorian: Hiya, Meg. Good to hear you love the art deco toppers. Even my wife went out of her way to say she likes them. I didn't remember that about the Suchet Poirots. Cool. I bet our daughter will make the connection immediately.

168jnwelch
Jan 12, 8:27am Top

Speaking of Dame Agatha, we finished the audio of Tuesday Club Murders, in which Miss Marple knits and outwits everyone in 13 stories. It remains one of my favorites. I also finished Nicholas Nickleby, a good one from Mr. Dickens.

169jnwelch
Jan 12, 8:34am Top



It's the vest

170scaifea
Jan 12, 8:35am Top

Morning, Joe!

>169 jnwelch: *snork!*

172jnwelch
Jan 12, 8:47am Top

>170 scaifea: Morning, Amber! I know, I'm going to rummage through the closet and see whether I can find a vest to wear.

173scaifea
Jan 12, 9:31am Top

>172 jnwelch: Make sure you also find an oversized, overlong suit jacket, too. You know, to complete the look.

174jnwelch
Jan 12, 1:19pm Top

>173 scaifea: LOL! I must have one somewhere.

175scaifea
Jan 12, 2:24pm Top

>174 jnwelch: And pants that come up to your ribcage, it seems, would be appropriate as well. They look as though they may be on the U of Iowa campus (corn-fed and all) - maybe Julia can hook you up with some appropriate duds.

176richardderus
Jan 12, 2:26pm Top

>169 jnwelch: Vest hell! It's the ginger crewcut. Yee haw.

177benitastrnad
Jan 12, 4:01pm Top

#169
I think it is the pleats and baggy legs on the trousers that does it. Those pants make any man look good. I wonder why nobody has told the young men and women of today that simple fashion fact.

178jnwelch
Jan 12, 4:23pm Top

>175 scaifea: I can't tell whether those are bell bottoms, Amber. If only. They must have some kind of glam store near U of Iowa where these kind of fancy duds can be picked up. Julia will have the scoop. Pants near the rib cage also help keep a man warm in winter - but, of course, it's really all about the hunkness.

>176 richardderus: That ginger crewcut is special, isn't it, Richard. I've got the buzz cut, but no ginger (or much other hair) to be seen.

I know they go crazy for beards in your part of the world.

>177 benitastrnad: Ha! Those pants make any man look good. Oh, I love that, Benita. You're right, we've got to get word to the youngsters.

179msf59
Jan 12, 6:44pm Top

Happy Friday, Joe. I know we have been texting, so we have chatted. I am so impressed you finished NN. I still have quite a ways to go.

I am so glad you picked up a copy of Lessons on Expulsion. I am crazy about that collection.

180drneutron
Jan 12, 7:54pm Top

😂 you people are my kind of weird.

181rretzler
Jan 12, 8:17pm Top

>159 jnwelch: Gorgeous picture! I love the moodiness offset by the contrasting bench!

>178 jnwelch: Bell bottoms? Na. 1940s wide leg trousers? Yep! With the waist pulled up above the belly button!

182richardderus
Jan 12, 8:52pm Top

Heck, Joe, let's make a pact to revive the zoot suit for daily wear!


I hope they paid that nice-looking young man a packet to model that thing.

183vancouverdeb
Edited: Jan 12, 10:49pm Top

Great looking " dishes" on your thread, Joe! Paul has nothing on you! :-) ( as far as picture of " dishes" go). Of course it goes without saying that all the men in the 75's are "Dishes" in their own right.

184roundballnz
Jan 12, 11:45pm Top

You loved All Systems Red (The Murderbot Diaries, #1) - Right ? just checking you have seen there are 2 more books coming out .....

btw loving Why Buddhism is True: The Science and Philosophy of Meditation and Enlightenment A++ BBB there

185rosalita
Jan 13, 8:22am Top

>169 jnwelch: Ha! I looked at that pic and thought, "Huh, that kinda looks like the Old Capitol" and then kept scrolling down and see that I wasn't the only one! Sadly, the young men on campus do NOT dress like that anymore, more's the pity. He's the total package, from the ginger crew cut down to the vest to the high-waisted baggy pants.

186karenmarie
Jan 13, 8:47am Top

Hi Joe!

Congrats on finishing NN! I'm on chapter 19 of 65. I've been not in a reading slump but in a not-making-time-for-reading-at-all phase. Bad me.

I also just got Why Buddhism is True in the mail from my dear friends at Amazon. So many books, so little time. Inclination right now, for some strange reason, too.

187scaifea
Jan 13, 9:36am Top

>185 rosalita: Ha! I *knew* it!

Morning, Joe!

188jnwelch
Jan 13, 11:34am Top

>179 msf59: Happy Saturday, buddy. Looking forward to seeing you tomorrow.

I got caught up in NN and wanted to find out what happens. That was a fun ride.

I just read a light one that I enjoyed called The Austen Escape by Katherine Reay. A bit of an Austenland set up in Bath, but a different type of story, featuring a woman software engineer. And I started The God of Small Things. My homework project is an ER book called Bizarre Space.

>180 drneutron: Best kind of weird out there, I think we can all agree, Jim. :-)

189jnwelch
Edited: Jan 13, 11:41am Top

>181 rretzler: Isn't >159 jnwelch: gorgeous, Robin? That red bench on a rainy day . . .

That 1940s look is kinda cool, isn't it. With the short ties and everything. Maybe it'll come back. I think >169 jnwelch:'s "gorgeous hunk" comment would've applied better to these guys you found.

>182 richardderus: Bring back the zoot suit! What a great idea, Richard. I need to find one of those long watchchains to go with it. We're not going to find them on store racks - we may need Amber's help with this one.

190jnwelch
Jan 13, 11:49am Top

>183 vancouverdeb: Of course it goes without saying that all the men in the 75's are "Dishes" in their own right. Oh, major bonus points, Deb! You get a free slice of pie for that one.



>184 roundballnz: I probably would have loved All Systems Red if I had read it, Alex. Looks like my cuppa. Adding it to the WL.

Isn't Why Buddhism is True great? I'm glad it's working so well for you. No murderous bots in it, but otherwise it passes muster.

191jnwelch
Jan 13, 11:54am Top

>185 rosalita: Ha! We thought you'd be familiar with >169 jnwelch:, Julia. What are the corn-fed hunks wearing these days?

This guy seems to be trying to figure out whether he has the right duds on.

192jnwelch
Jan 13, 12:04pm Top

>186 karenmarie: Thanks, Karen. CD is such a yarn-spinner; I got caught up in Nicholas Nickleby and just kept going. I can see why it's not usually put up there with his best; there are more than the usual number of coincidences. But he's gets us rooting and booing, it's very funny, and there are so many great lines.

“Most men unconsciously judge the world from themselves, and it will be very generally found that those who sneer habitually at human nature, and affect to despise it, are among its worst and least pleasant samples.”

“You cannot stain a black coat”

I'm glad you got your hands on Why Buddhism is True. When the reading isn't calling out to me, or I just finished a challenging one like NN, I turn to a light one. I just had a good time with The Austen Escape.

193jnwelch
Jan 13, 12:06pm Top

>187 scaifea: Ha! Good call, Amber. Julia apparently is surrounded by corn-fed hunks. It's a good life.

Happy Saturday!

194ChelleBearss
Jan 13, 12:16pm Top

>182 richardderus: >189 jnwelch: zoot suits for the next meet-up?

195richardderus
Jan 13, 12:41pm Top

>191 jnwelch: The right duds for sweetiekins would be none. *lascivious leer*

196jnwelch
Edited: Jan 13, 12:55pm Top

>194 ChelleBearss: Wouldn't that be great, Chelle? What would the ladies wear?



>195 richardderus: Ha! I had a feeling you'd appreciate >191 jnwelch:, Richard. A corn-fed hunk without the husk?

197jnwelch
Jan 13, 2:27pm Top

In Memoriam: Our wonderful LT friend Ellie Moses (mirrordrum) would have just celebrated her 74th birthday had she lived.

198richardderus
Jan 13, 2:32pm Top

>196 jnwelch: I'll even husk him for you. No extra charge.

>197 jnwelch: Still sad she's gone.

199roundballnz
Jan 13, 2:39pm Top

>190 jnwelch: My mind is playing tricks on me, all good another BB passed on .....

Will be interested to see what you make of The God of Small Things. - read it when it came out, interesting if it stands up to time

200jnwelch
Jan 13, 2:43pm Top

>198 richardderus: Ha! Very generous, RD.

Yeah, me, too, re Ellie. I miss her a lot.

>199 roundballnz: Believe me, I'm familiar with the mind playing those kinds of tricks, Alex. I'll know someone on LT recommended a book I liked, for example, and then have a heck of a time remembering who.

So far I'm very impressed with the writing in The God of Small Things - the descriptive passages are knockouts. I've meant to read it for ages.

201banjo123
Jan 13, 2:47pm Top

>92 jnwelch: Like that poem!'

Some of my favorite socks:

202richardderus
Jan 13, 2:53pm Top

>200 jnwelch: The God of Small Things is gorgeous writing for absolute sure and certain. What a lush picture it paints! I could feel the humidity and the sunshine, smell the by-the-road smells...she has a gift for evoking the sensuous world.

203drneutron
Jan 13, 5:32pm Top

>183 vancouverdeb: Cool! I'm a dish! Probably fatback pork and beans... 😁

204jnwelch
Jan 13, 5:37pm Top

>201 banjo123: Thanks, Rhonda, re the poem!

Good-looking socks - not just the quote, but the books and coffee. I can see why they're faves. My unusual sock wardrobe is growing - it started when my daughter's godfather got me NY taxi socks, and now I have Chicago Bulls socks and Electric Sheep socks from daughter and wife. My own taste runs to boring, so it's good I've got other people in my life working on this.



Astute perusers of our daughter's 30th birthday photos on FB will spot these on my feet.

205jnwelch
Edited: Jan 13, 5:42pm Top

>202 richardderus: That's encouraging re The God of Small Things, Richard, and sure fits what I've read so far.

>203 drneutron: Now there's a question for us, Jim. If you could be an LT dish, what would you be? I wouldn't have guessed fatback pork and beans for you, but then I only have known you in your Washington, DC incarnation.

Me, I'd be a big ol' slice of carrot cake.

206richardderus
Jan 13, 5:46pm Top

Me too me too me too!!!

207jnwelch
Edited: Jan 13, 5:50pm Top

>206 richardderus: Ha! OK, OK, OK!!!

This one's you, buddy:

208richardderus
Jan 13, 5:51pm Top

Oooh that's as pretty as Cornfed Cuteness up there. What a droolmaker! (Either/both)

209jnwelch
Jan 13, 5:52pm Top

>208 richardderus: LOL! It's a good day for dishes at the cafe. :-)

210jnwelch
Edited: Jan 13, 9:00pm Top

We're off to see our Chicago Bulls play the Detroit Pistons in basketball. Catch everyone tomorrow.

211charl08
Edited: Jan 13, 6:21pm Top

I see I checked back in with the cafe at a good time! Any chocolate cake today?
(Love the socks)

Eta to tide me over whilst the patron is at the game

212msf59
Jan 13, 6:31pm Top

Happy Saturday, Joe. Heading out with the family for pizza and beer. Looking forward to hanging out with you tomorrow.

You might just inspire me to finally read The God of Small Things. I have had it on shelf forever.

213vancouverdeb
Jan 13, 6:35pm Top

>190 jnwelch: A yummy piece of Blueberry Pie! My favourite kind of pie! Yes, you men are all dishes!

>189 jnwelch: I'm loving the zoot suits! A bit before my time, but appreciated!

214thornton37814
Jan 13, 7:36pm Top

>156 jnwelch: I definitely want to read Devotions: the Selected Poems of Mary Oliver. It was on my Christmas wish list, but I didn't receive it. It will probably be one of my Thingaversary (March 30) purchases unless I get it for my birthday.

215alcottacre
Jan 13, 7:50pm Top

I came in for a hot cuppa, Joe. Help a gal out?

216Whisper1
Jan 13, 8:37pm Top

>133 jnwelch: I always enjoy the images you post!

217roundballnz
Jan 13, 9:07pm Top

>202 richardderus: >205 jnwelch: Very well said - I cannot disagree there ....

218jnwelch
Jan 14, 9:59am Top

Woo-hoo! What a game! The Bulls won 107-105, and it was exciting from start to finish. Great night out.

>211 charl08: Thanks for figuring out where some chocolate cake was, Charlotte. We found some more for you:

219jnwelch
Jan 14, 10:03am Top

>212 msf59: Looked on FB like you and the family were having a grand time, Mark. Planning a trip to Mexico? That sounds good to me.

I'll keep you posted on The God of Small Things. So far, quite good.

>213 vancouverdeb: Ha! It's wonderful what pie can accomplish, Deb. You've got the 75er guys feeling like a delicious bunch.

Believe it or not, zoot suits were even before my time (and not many things were). But I'm ready with RD to bring them back. :-)

220karenmarie
Jan 14, 10:06am Top

Happy Sunday Joe!

How about Caramel Nut Cake, recipe courtesy of nittnut?

221jnwelch
Jan 14, 10:08am Top

>214 thornton37814: Oh, I hope you get the Mary Oliver book, Lori, one way or another. She's one of our most accessible and inspiring poets.

Wild Geese

Mary Oliver

You do not have to be good.
You do not have to walk on your knees
for a hundred miles through the desert repenting.
You only have to let the soft animal of your body
love what it loves.
Tell me about despair, yours, and I will tell you mine.
Meanwhile the world goes on.
Meanwhile the sun and the clear pebbles of the rain
are moving across the landscapes,
over the prairies and the deep trees,
the mountains and the rivers.
Meanwhile the wild geese, high in the clean blue air,
are heading home again.
Whoever you are, no matter how lonely,
the world offers itself to your imagination,
calls to you like the wild geese, harsh and exciting -
over and over announcing your place
in the family of things.

222jnwelch
Edited: Jan 14, 10:11am Top

>215 alcottacre: Hiya, Stasia. Thanks for your patience. Here you go. Who needs winter?

223jnwelch
Jan 14, 10:13am Top

>216 Whisper1: Thanks, Linda! Ditto re the images you post, my friend. I hope you're having a relaxing weekend.

>217 roundballnz: Right, Alex? Richard has a wonderful way with words, and so far The God of Small Things is a treat.

224richardderus
Jan 14, 10:26am Top

>219 jnwelch: Heh. We'd each have to lose 40...pounds and years...to pull off the zoot suitery.

>223 jnwelch: Thanks for the kind words, Joe.

225scaifea
Jan 14, 10:32am Top

Morning, Joe!

Hm, for Charlie's school concert next year, do you think I can convince him to let me make him a zoot suit...?

226jnwelch
Edited: Jan 14, 10:54am Top

>224 richardderus: Oh yeah, I forgot about the pounds and years, Richard. Hmm. A zoot suit in gargantuan size probably wouldn't have the same appeal.



Well-deserved kind words, buddy.

227jnwelch
Jan 14, 10:55am Top

>225 scaifea: Oh man, that would be the best, Amber. I hope Charlie goes for the zoot suit idea. You've got the chops to pull it off.

228laytonwoman3rd
Jan 14, 12:05pm Top

>226 jnwelch: Guy just looks like he's wearing somebody else's clothes.

229Caroline_McElwee
Jan 14, 1:08pm Top

>207 jnwelch: oooh, I do like a good carrot cake Joe. I’m restricting myself to two days a month with sugar treats, the first this month was yesterday, and my sister had brought homemade lemon drizzle cake, another fave. I do actually have a sugar free recipe for carrot cake somewhere, and its really not bad.

No doubt you are enjoying lifting a jar with the warbler right now.

Ha the Zoot suits.

230johnsimpson
Jan 14, 3:47pm Top

Hi Joe, glad you enjoyed your Basketball game and what a tight game it was, I must say that over the years I have enjoyed hearing about the exploits of the Bulls but actually my team is the Charlotte Hornets and in the very early 1990's the only Basketball team colours available were the Bulls and the Hornets and I just love the Hornet. I was appalled when they became the Bobcats and was so glad they went back to the Hornets.

Hope you and Debbi are having a good weekend mate.

231LovingLit
Jan 14, 4:41pm Top

>191 jnwelch: that guy looks like a stocking filled with marbles, I mean really? Could his t-shirt *be* any tighter??

Also, I agree that They character of Rey in Star Wars is a fabulous casting choice. She is great. I loved it in her first outing as Rey when she was getting Finn to pass her a tool in the Millennium Falcon, "No- that one. No. No?. NO, *that* one." Too much!

232Familyhistorian
Jan 14, 5:35pm Top

Your thread is a hot bed of sartorial splendor and cake, Joe! Mmm, carrot cake, my favourite and I like the zoot suit look well except for >226 jnwelch:!

233magicians_nephew
Jan 14, 9:31pm Top

Thinking of Tom Wolfe and his white three piece ice cream suits with the wide brimmed hats.

Thinking of mirrordrum and her thoughtful additions to our discourse here.

234scaifea
Jan 15, 6:16am Top

Morning, Joe!

235jnwelch
Jan 15, 8:27am Top

>234 scaifea: Morning, Amber!

>233 magicians_nephew: Tom Wolfe would've looked good in a zoot suit, wouldn't he, Jim. I remember his ice cream suits with the wide brimmed hats.

I join you in thinking of mirrordrum and her thoughtful additions to our discourse. I sure miss her. I hope she's up there reading good books.

236jnwelch
Jan 15, 8:30am Top

>228 laytonwoman3rd: Ha! Well put, Linda. He does. It's hard to carry off the look without, as RD says, losing the weight.

>229 Caroline_McElwee: Hiya, Caroline. Good to have a fellow carrot cake appreciator. I usually get one on my birthday, and occasionally a restaurant will have it on a night out. We're pretty low on sugar these days, too.

Had a great time with the warbler - I'll post a photo after catching up.

237jnwelch
Edited: Jan 15, 8:44am Top

>230 johnsimpson: Hi, John. Good to see you. That was an exciting basketball game. The Charlotte Hornets are a fun team to follow. Their majority owner actually is an ex-Bull, the famous Michael Jordan. He played in college there. The Bulls have an international following after he and Scottie Pippen and the others were so wonderful in the 90s with their six championships. The team is hoping eventually to reach those heights again with these new young players. Their most promising player right now, Lauri Markannen, is from Finland. I only know of one other player from that country who has played in the NBA, back in the day.

We had a great weekend, thanks, and I hope you and Karen did. Yesterday I met up with our friend Mark the warbler. I'll post a photo this morning.

>231 LovingLit: I think the tight shirt in >191 jnwelch: is what Richard liked, Megan. Only spray paint could've supplied a snugger fit, seems like. :-)

Ha! I loved Rey in the first one, and that scene, too. We'll have to see what happens with Finn and her - looks like a triangle may have arisen in the new one.

>232 Familyhistorian: Hi, Meg. Don't those zoot suits look great? (Excepting >226 jnwelch:). And cake has to be right up there on the list of best inventions after the wheel.

238jnwelch
Jan 15, 8:46am Top



Had another great get-together with our friend Mark yesterday. We had lunch at the Bad Apple, stopped in at the new digs of craft brewer Spiteful Brewing, and finished at Begyle Brewing. Books and LT might've been mentioned once or twice.

239drneutron
Jan 15, 8:56am Top

Lookin' good, guys!

240jessibud2
Jan 15, 9:00am Top

Sounds like the perfect day!

241jnwelch
Jan 15, 9:08am Top

>239 drneutron: Ha! Thanks, Jim!

We were talking about your critical role in making this 75er group possible, which I didn't understand when you and I first met. Thanks again!

>240 jessibud2: It pretty much was, Shelley. :-) The only thing missing was carrot cake. It had been a while since our last get-together, so I'm glad we could make it work.

242jnwelch
Edited: Jan 15, 1:28pm Top



The Austen Escape was just what the doctor ordered after I finished the lengthy, if enjoyable, Nicholas Nickleby. This light and relatively brief novel features software engineer Mary Davies at a Jane Austen–themed mansion resort in Bath, England. A difficult new boss has complicated her work life, she's attracted to a consultant there, Nathan, who's moving on, and her complex and competitive closest friend Isabel has insisted she join her for the Austen vacation.

Austenites will enjoy this - vacationers dress up in period clothing, become characters from the books if they choose, and a fair amount of the famous books is conjured up. Isabel, an Austen scholar, has a breakdown and is mentally stuck in the Regency period, ironically at the same time becoming easier to get along with. Nathan shows up to help Mary with the difficult situation, and their attraction is rekindled. I liked Mary's engineering bent, and this was a fun bit of more substantial than usual fluff. I'll be reading more Katherine Reay.

243msf59
Jan 15, 9:17am Top

>238 jnwelch: Yep, another fine time with my pal, in the city. Time sure flies, doesn't it, when we get to gabbing.

Morning, Joe. Looks like I have some shoveling to do. Groans...Hey, at least I am off today.

>242 jnwelch: Yah, for the mini-reviews. Let's keep 'em coming. It is our mission.

244Caroline_McElwee
Edited: Jan 16, 6:33pm Top

>238 jnwelch: hearing the song ‘We’re a couple of pals’, glad you had a good time Joe.

245Crazymamie
Jan 15, 9:29am Top

Morning, Joe! Love that photo of you and Mark!

246richardderus
Jan 15, 9:42am Top

>231 LovingLit:, >237 jnwelch: I *offered* to husk the lovely young thing...I agree, there's too much left to the imagination with all those unnecessary garments.

...wait...I think that's just me...

>238 jnwelch: "Spiteful Brewing" is such a great name! Y'all look suitably fueled for a good, wide-ranging discussion of Life, the Universe, and Everything.

>242 jnwelch: The Austen Escape was just what the doctor ordered after I finished the lengthy, if enjoyable, Nicholas Nickleby.

Conditional noted. Enjoyability duly contested.

247ChelleBearss
Jan 15, 9:50am Top

Looks like you guys had a good visit! :)

248karenmarie
Jan 15, 9:55am Top

Hi Joe!

You and Mark sure look happy - meet up and beer!

Happy day after Sunday. Or Day That Must Not Be Named. Or Yesterday's Tomorrow.

249jnwelch
Jan 15, 1:13pm Top

>248 karenmarie: Hi, Karen!

We were happy campers, Mark and I. Most excellent craft beer, and even better conversation.

Oh, I love "Yesterday's Tomorrow". Nice! Same to you, my friend.

>247 ChelleBearss: We did have a good visit, Chelle. It's always a pleasure to get together with that guy. He knows a lot about books (right?), and all sorts of other stuff. Not to mention being a topnotch beer recommender and beer historian.

250jnwelch
Jan 15, 1:21pm Top

>243 msf59: Hey, buddy. I was just singing your praises to Karen and Chelle.

Time sure flies, doesn't it, when we get to gabbing. Ain't that the truth! I think Spiteful Brewing has earned its place on the craft beer tour, and I'm really glad you like Begyle. Me, too.

Debbi's probably unduly worried about me having a snow-related heart attack, but she's insisted we hire neighborhood kids to shovel the snow. She baffles me sometimes, as she worries about my health and my living a long time, while occasionally threatening to kill me herself if I keep misbehaving (my keeping misbehaving of course is to be as expected as the sun coming up every morning).

What a finish to that Vikings game!

Mini-reviews - right? It is our mission. Exactly. We will come through on this new year's resolution.

Hope you're enjoying the day off, buddy, shoveling and all.

251jnwelch
Jan 15, 1:27pm Top

>246 richardderus: I've always been impressed by your community spirit, Richard, and your willingness to de-clothe good-looking guys for the good of the group. Or yourself, as the case may be.

Isn't Spiteful Brewing a great name? Two childhood friends didn't like their post-college jobs, tried home brewing, thought "we can do this", and now they're making a successful go of it. Great craft beer, in a lot of different forms. We tried a couple of their double IPAs and a porter.

We did discuss Life, the Universe and Everything, and likely will get into more depth on the number 42 next time around.

Hey, if you can like a manga and a Gaiman, you can like a Charles . . . oh, never mind. I don't want the universe to get completely flamdangled.

252richardderus
Jan 15, 1:38pm Top

Heh. I showed this thread to Young Gentleman Caller who said, "you really think that lump is cute? C'mon!" (He's the lean surfer boy type.)

I suspect my new, shorter beard earned his approval points based on his viewing of the competition. I bow to no one in evil manipulative uses of innocent threads.

253johnsimpson
Jan 15, 3:22pm Top

>238 jnwelch:, Great photo of you and Mark, my friend. Looks like the beers were going down well.

254Berly
Jan 16, 3:06am Top

>238 jnwelch: Jealous of the meet-up you guys had!

But not the zoot suits. You can keep those -- they do nothing for my figure. ; )

255scaifea
Jan 16, 6:23am Top

Morning, Joe!

256jnwelch
Jan 16, 9:54am Top

>252 richardderus: If he's lean, he no doubt can advantageously wear a zoot suit, Richard. Just a thought.

>253 johnsimpson: Hi, John. Thanks. The beers were going down very well indeed. There are a number of craft breweries in the area open to the public, and Mark and I feel it's a community service to try them all out.

257jnwelch
Jan 16, 9:56am Top

>254 Berly: Hi, Kim. Yeah, I wish we could've teleported you in. You would've had a blast.

I know, those who can successfully don zoot suits are an elite group. The guy in >226 jnwelch: would've been better off in a poncho.

>255 scaifea: Morning, Amber!

258jnwelch
Edited: Jan 16, 10:07am Top



I just liked the look of this. Maybe it's time to redo the front of our house.

259richardderus
Jan 16, 11:24am Top

>256 jnwelch: ...
...

...genius! If I can talk him into it, I'll post a picture!

260jnwelch
Jan 16, 11:55am Top

>259 richardderus: Ha! Good luck, and please do!

261Caroline_McElwee
Jan 16, 12:01pm Top

>258 jnwelch: Like. The Halloweeners will probably double as there will be no hiding with a door like that Joe.

262jessibud2
Jan 16, 12:36pm Top

>258 jnwelch: - Love it. No address necessary. Just address mail: Casa Welch, the one with The Door.

:-)

263jnwelch
Jan 16, 1:54pm Top

>261 Caroline_McElwee: Ha! Oh, good point, Caroline. I don't know that we can afford to have the thousand Halloweeners who come by double in number. Nice as it looks in >258 jnwelch:, this may warrant re-thinking.

>262 jessibud2: LOL! Kinda like Santa and the North Pole, Shelley. Casa Welch, the one with The Door. I like that. The one with the Door, and all the books inside.

264brodiew2
Jan 16, 2:10pm Top

Hello Joe! It looks like a 'Zoot Suit Riot' on your page. Nice.

How about a little Noir twist on the 40s mens fashion.



John Garfield.

265charl08
Jan 16, 2:14pm Top

>258 jnwelch: Love it. When you've done yours, can you come and paint one in Lancashire?

266jnwelch
Edited: Jan 16, 2:30pm Top

>264 brodiew2: Good one, Brodie - that's a sharp look for Mr. Garfield. But should he be out in the daylight?



>265 charl08: Isn't that cool, Charlotte? Lancashire's a tough one - we will be in London in the fall. Can you bring your door into the city and we'll work on it there? Hmm. That'd be a long haul, wouldn't it. I would like to get to your part of the country, but visiting local pubs would probably be higher on our list than painting doors.

267brodiew2
Edited: Jan 16, 2:53pm Top

>264 brodiew2: True that, Joe. He probably should be in the dark as the one you posted, but it's a strong pic none the less.



This better?

268jnwelch
Jan 16, 3:08pm Top

>267 brodiew2: Phew. There we go. Very dramatic lighting, too.

269msf59
Jan 16, 6:31pm Top

>267 brodiew2: Always liked John Garfield.

Happy Tuesday, Joe. Hope work went smoothly. For a day after, a holiday, the mail volume was decent, making for a good work day, for the Warbler, plus I am off tomorrow. Yah!

I finished the Dickens. I had to take off points for it's longwindedness, (is this a word? If not, it should be) but there is still plenty to enjoy. It just didn't need to be 800 pages.

270jnwelch
Jan 16, 7:15pm Top

>269 msf59: Happy Tuesday, Mark.

Work went smoothly; in fact, I enjoyed catching up with folks. I'm glad the Warbler had a decent day - and tomorrow off! Woot!

"Longwindedness" is a word as far as I'm concerned. I could go on and on and on about why . . .

Yeah, "it just didn't need to be 800 pages." You and I talked a little bit about this - I wonder if it had to do with his creating Nicholas Nickleby in installments. According to Wikipedia (fingers crossed it's right), "The story first appeared in monthly parts, after which it was issued in one volume". He had his readers on the hook, from what little I know, dying for the next one. So if he was getting paid by installment, he probably had no motivation to slim it down?

Congratulations on finishing! That's a major whopper.

271LovingLit
Jan 16, 7:24pm Top

>237 jnwelch: We'll have to see what happens with Finn and her - looks like a triangle may have arisen in the new one.
Well now, the way I see it is Rose loves Finn, but Finn loves Rey, and Rey loves Finn but Finn does not love Rose.
:)

272brodiew2
Jan 16, 7:34pm Top

>271 LovingLit: Very interesting shipping conversation. If i knew how to spoiler tag, I'd get involved. :-P

273richardderus
Jan 16, 8:23pm Top

>272 brodiew2: Simple: {spoiler}{/spoiler} in pointy brackets at the beginning and end of the spoiler.

"Longwindedness" is a word. It is defined in the Oxford English Dictionary as follows:

See Chuckles the Dick.

274jnwelch
Edited: Jan 16, 10:07pm Top

>271 LovingLit: Whew! My head's spinning, Megan - can you diagram that? I do sense that poor Rose loses out.

>272 brodiew2: If you use and > as brackets, you can do all sorts of things, Brodie.

If you put in the letter i in, you get italics, if you put in the letter b you get bold, and if you put in the word spoiler, you get spoiler.

Shoot, it won't show the brackets. Hmm. Does anyone know where to direct Brodie for this kind of thing? Here's the Cool Stuff to do on Your Threads thread, which probably has it: http://www.librarything.com/topic/129158

And here's a link to the Fancy Posts thread: https://www.librarything.com/topic/177029#6319921

275jnwelch
Jan 16, 9:29pm Top

>273 richardderus: Thanks, RD. That's a good way to explain it to Brodie. He just needs to use the pointy brackets instead of the squiggle ones.

I'm beginning to suspect that CD did something bad to one of your ancestors.

276richardderus
Jan 16, 9:32pm Top

>275 jnwelch: No, not my ancestor...me. A Tale of Two Cities read at 12. It was *HORRIBLE*. Hor.Rib.Ble.

277LovingLit
Edited: Jan 16, 9:42pm Top

>274 jnwelch: I do love a diagram!! I will work on it :)

Eta: How's this?

278jnwelch
Jan 16, 9:41pm Top

>276 richardderus: Ha! I can understand the trauma, Richard. Not my favorite. Although not as longwindeddy as some others.

>277 LovingLit: If you can get the laser pointer to work, that would help, too, Megan.

279LovingLit
Jan 16, 9:42pm Top

Re: laser pointer.....you will need it!!!

280rretzler
Edited: Jan 16, 9:49pm Top

>271 LovingLit: In the new movie, I'm not so sure that Finn loves Rey and Rey loves Finn. I think Rey may not hook up with anyone, and Rose may have been introduced to give Finn a love interest. Only time will tell.

>274 jnwelch: Here's what the spoiler would look like: <spoiler>hidden text</spoiler> which looks like hidden text

281jnwelch
Edited: Jan 16, 10:05pm Top

>280 rretzler: Nice, Robin! Why wouldn't it let me show it that way? There you go, Brodie. Thanks, Robin.

BTW, here's the link to the "How to Do Fancy Posts" thread: https://www.librarything.com/topic/177029#6319921

You may be right about the love interests. Rose still loses out, poor thing.

>279 LovingLit: And a helpful guide like "Triangles for Dummies"?

That chart in >277 LovingLit: looks like way more than a triangle, Megan. Is that a Mormon dating chart?

282scaifea
Jan 17, 6:23am Top

Morning, Dr. D!

283jnwelch
Jan 17, 8:24am Top

>282 scaifea: Ha! Morning, Esteemed Classicist!

284msf59
Jan 17, 10:06am Top

285jnwelch
Jan 17, 1:35pm Top

286jnwelch
Jan 17, 1:36pm Top

OK, the new cafe is open. See you there!

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