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Jul 30, 2006, 1:05am (top)Message 1: staffordcastle

Hi! Just to get things started, I'd like to ask what you think is the most useful book you have on Elizabethan England. Of course, this is a tough question; do I choose Emerson's Wives and Daughters, or Neville Williams' All the Queen's Men, or Lawrence Stone's The Crisis of the Aristocracy ? Or The Longman Companion to the Tudor Age? No, it's got to be The Measure of Reality by Alfred Crosby - though not specifically about England, it is the most enlightening book about the Renaissance that I've ever read, and the minute I finished it, I turned back to the first page and read it again. I don't do that too often!

Message edited by its author, Sep 4, 2006, 2:38pm.

Sep 4, 2006, 2:38pm (top)Message 2: staffordcastle

New acquisition: The Godly Books of Tudor England by John E. Booty. Haven't started reading it yet (so many books, so little time ...) but it looked interesting. Has anyone else read this one?

Sep 27, 2006, 2:50am (top)Message 3: staffordcastle

New acquisition: The Sea Dogs by Neville Williams, which I didn't even know existed until I saw it at the bottom of the pirate bookpile! I located a copy through abebooks.com, and it just arrived.

Sep 27, 2006, 7:22am (top)Message 4: john257hopper

Not sure what "most useful" means in this context. But my favourite Elizabethan reads have probably been David Starkey's and Alison Weir's (Part) biographies.

As for fiction, I enjoy the murder mysteries of Fiona Buckley.
John

Oct 1, 2006, 11:53pm (top)Message 5: staffordcastle

Well, I'd say "most useful" means the most useful to YOU, so you've answered the question!

I recently was looking around at the various Elizabethan mystery series (there are five or six at least) - has anyone read any of the others? Opinions?

Some names:
Karen Harper
Leonard Tourney
Anthony Burgess
Edward Marston
John Pilkington
Peter Tonkin

I've only read the Fiona Buckley and Karen Harper series, so would love to know if the others are worth trying.

Cheers!

Oct 1, 2006, 11:54pm (top)Message 6: staffordcastle

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Nov 11, 2006, 11:07pm (top)Message 7: staffordcastle

Score!

I just got a facsimile copy of William Lily's A shorte introduction of grammar, the government-mandated Latin textbook from Henry VIII's time up to the 18th century. Very cool!

Dec 19, 2006, 10:40pm (top)Message 8: LyriqueTragedy First Message

Evening everyone!

I just found my way here to LibraryThing and I have to say that the absence of an Early Modern, Elizabethan, or Renaissance group on the main groups page concerned me, but I found you guys! *chuckles*

As for the most "useful" book, I think I'll have to give that some thought. It very much depends on what I am looking for, actually. Societal norms? Costume design? Source material for historical crimes? Maps? Theory? The possibilities are endless, really, but there is one book in particular that has helped me with reconstructing (as much as can be done) the social structures of the 16-18th centuries in England-- I haven't entered it yet, and it's on my office shelf, but I ~think~ it's called English Society by Lawrence Stone. I'll check tomorrow and edit this post to give the exact title.

Cheers!

Edit: The title is The family, sex and marriage in England 1500-1800, and if you're looking for domestic rules, constructs, laws and mores, this is comprehensive and well researched!

Message edited by its author, Dec 19, 2006, 10:43pm.

Dec 20, 2006, 12:59am (top)Message 9: staffordcastle

Hi, LyriqueTragedy

Have you read Lawrence Stone's The Crisis of the Aristocracy? Full of lovely stuff, especially if you have the unabridged version (they left out all the fun stuff to make the abridgement). Also quite interesting is Felicity Heal's The Gentry in England and Wales 1500-1700.

Welcome aboard!

Dec 20, 2006, 8:12am (top)Message 10: john257hopper

A recent read that stood out for me was The uncrowned kings of England : the black history of the Dudleys and the Tudor throne by Derek Wilson. Although not solely about Robert Dudley so therefore going wider than the period covered by this group, it is interesting and perhaps controversial (see my review).

John

Dec 21, 2006, 2:43am (top)Message 11: LyriqueTragedy

John,

Thanks for the heads up on the text! As I suspect all of us have our predilections, one of mine is certainly the influence of Dudley. I'll be adding it to my "next to read" list, and let you know what I think!

On a side note... I really need to find some time to sit down and put together some reviews. I want to so badly that it's making me twitchy!

~Dawn

Dec 21, 2006, 12:04pm (top)Message 12: john257hopper

Thanks for your comments, LyriqueTragedy. By no means all my reviews are that long, most are just a couple of sentences, unless I feel moved to write more, as in this case.

John

Dec 25, 2006, 2:36pm (top)Message 13: staffordcastle

I bought The Uncrowned Kings of England recently, but haven't had time to read it yet. Glad to read your review!

Warmest holiday wishes to all!

Dec 25, 2006, 2:40pm (top)Message 14: Fogies

Touching the usefulness of a good knowledge of Elizabethan England, we wonder how many people would continue to pay any attention to the "Bacon-Shakespeare controversy" after reading The Shakespeare Claimants?

May 4, 2007, 4:31pm (top)Message 15: AnnaClaire

I'm not sure about how I'd define "most useful" either. Of the half-dozen books I've already entered and tagged "Elizabeth I," I think my favorite was Jane Dunn's Elizabeth and Mary: Cousins, Rivals, Queens, followed by Alison Weir's The Life of Elizabeth I. Stephen Budiansky's Her Majesty's Spymaster: Elizabeth I, Sir Francis Walsingham, and the Birth of Modern Espionage was pretty good, too. I liked David Starkey's Elizabeth: The Struggle for the Throne less -- it's all right, but I didn't think it exceptional.

I haven't yet gotten around to reading Elizabeth I: Collected Works. And a few years ago I started reading Christopher Hibbert's The Virgin Queen: Elizabeth I, Genius of the Golden Age, but haven't finished it -- I got sidetracked by schoolwork.

Edited to get touchstones to work

Message edited by its author, May 5, 2007, 1:23pm.

May 5, 2007, 6:16am (top)Message 16: john257hopper

I recently bought Anne Somerset's biography of Elizabeth, but haven't read yet.

Any views on this book?

John

Message edited by its author, May 5, 2007, 6:16am.

May 6, 2007, 1:06am (top)Message 17: staffordcastle

Somerset's is my favorite bio of Elizabeth! Very good.

Jun 18, 2007, 10:50am (top)Message 18: Cariola

Hard to define "useful," but one that changed my perspective while in grad school was Stephen Greenblatt's Renaissance Self-Fashioning.

Jun 24, 2007, 12:47pm (top)Message 19: staffordcastle

Sounds interesting, I'll have to look out for a copy! Thanks for the tip!

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John E. Booty
Fiona Buckley
Stephen Budiansky
Anthony Burgess
Alfred W. Crosby
Jane Dunn
Edward Marston
Kathy L. Emerson
H. N. Gibson
Stephen Greenblatt
Karen Harper
Felicity Heal
Christopher Hibbert
William Lily
Rosemary O'Day
Jurgen Pieters
John Pilkington
Anne Somerset
David Starkey
Lawrence Stone
Peter Tonkin
Leonard Tourney
Alison Weir
Neville Williams
Derek Wilson
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