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Anyone not rich have any LEs?

Folio Society devotees

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1edisonstarks
Jul 5, 2018, 10:14am Top

The limited editions are so GORGEOUS but they’re all well above what I can afford. Can you get any through installment plans? Anyone else in a similar boat?

I actually don’t really mind that the LEs are out of my league since I feel like the regular editions are rather unique and special too, but that Faerie Queene looks so divine - if only.

2Fierylunar
Edited: Jul 5, 2018, 10:59am Top

>1 edisonstarks: You can find the answer to your installment question here: https://www.librarything.com/topic/293167.

I would not consider myself particularly rich, but I managed to grab 4 LEs in the past 6 years of collecting FS books. I try to save a little bit of money each month in a book jar to splurge on FS sales and other books of interest two-three times a year (basically a reverse installment plan - I save up monthly before the purchase). I tend to spend less than 600 GBP on books each year almost exclusively buying Folio books or cheap secondhand books, so saving 50 each month gets me there.

3MobyRichard
Edited: Jul 5, 2018, 11:13am Top

You don't have to be rich. Think of how much money you spend on your cell phone, cable, video games, eating out at restaurants, sports, concerts, nice clothes, vacations, etc. etc. Think about how most of these things are perishable and consumable (i.e. you won't get your money back). Trim a few things and you have your LE.

4wongie
Edited: Jul 5, 2018, 11:28am Top

>3 MobyRichard:

Echoing those very points. I'm not rich but I am careful where I spend so cheapest mobile price plan, being more discerning in my video game and movie purchases, cutting back on eating out or ordering in take-aways, keeping old shirts with elbow holes which I'm now quite well known for at work not to mention making a pair of sneakers last almost every day for 3 years with the help of some messy gluing attempts to keep them in one piece though this might be a bit extreme for many.

In the end it's not a question about being rich but re-prioritising your outgoings, for me being frugal in the aforementioned areas allowed me to splurge on many LEs.

5astropi
Jul 5, 2018, 11:33am Top

I would also add that some FS editions are far more expensive than others. The Faerie Queene is one of the more expensive editions. Although, that's a heck of a sale price (Published price: US$ 895.00 Sale: US$ 590.00 Saving: US$ 305.00 (34%)

6elladan0891
Jul 5, 2018, 1:38pm Top

>1 edisonstarks: Can you get any through installment plans?

Yes, it works the same as with their standard editions. You can pay in 4 installments if you call them and ask for it. Minimum purchase of £200 or $300 USD (not sure about CAD/AUD).

7Edmund_Fitzgerald
Jul 5, 2018, 9:17pm Top

I'm a student, so money is really tight for me. In the sense that my inability to afford Folio LEs isn't exactly the sort of thing that I could handle by not eating out more, since I'm already extremely frugal.

Anyway, I don't own any Folio LEs, but I do have a number of Limited Edition Club and Imprint Society books. They're just as beautifully designed as Folio LEs, and arguably even better quality. Everything they do is letterpress, and that's honestly pretty incredible. And if you're patient, you can easily pick them up for about the same price as a regular Folio Society book new. The Imprint Society is especially amazing, because you can find them for as little as $20.

The other thing I do is look ahead towards major life milestones, and then slowly put away money to save up to buy a nice book to mark them. For example, throughout the last two years of my undergrad, I put away about 10$ per week, and that left me with enough money to buy the gorgeous Limited Editions Club Heart of Darkness.

Anyway, if you can't afford Folio LEs, I'd definitely recommend you look into the Limited Editions Club and Imprint Society. As I said, you're really getting a higher quality of book with them, it's just that they don't quite have the same cachet as a status symbol.

8ultrarightist
Jul 5, 2018, 9:37pm Top

>7 Edmund_Fitzgerald: Well put, and I second your recommendation.

9Seeking_North
Edited: Jul 6, 2018, 11:02am Top

I purchased my Folio colliection from an estate sale.. paid 15% of the original owners cost.

10alvaret
Jul 6, 2018, 11:43am Top

I would say that the requirements are to have an income high enough (or low enough costs) to have room for some not strictly necessary things and be willing to prioritize LEs above other nice things. Figure out what not strictly necessary expenses you have, if there are any of them you would be willing to cut to buy a LE, and if so if it would be enough to afford it.

I guess I could afford a LE once in awhile but personally I prefer a healthy savings account. However, if I desperately wanted one I guess I could fit it in my existing book budget if I stopped buying other books but I prefer to buy 10 FS standard editions rather than a single LE.

11Pellias
Jul 6, 2018, 1:37pm Top

Rich is relative. At times rich, at times poor when it comes to bookbudget (not that i have one). I would have bought more LE`s with the old installment`s model no doubt. For me and my 27 LE`s from the FS since 2014 (some from the secondhand market). This question is relevant for me now: Do i want it, or do i think i want it. Saving for something you want is the best way though, just make sure you really want it. Faerie Queene is gorgeous and one of my favourites, and at this price a no brainer (but it`s massive and does not fit into a standard Billy Bookcase which many have - that would also hide the effect of what the FS states as the Tsarina Crush effect on the wooden slipcase. Like the Lovecraft volumes fine and limited, it changes colour from different angles / if you care about these things). Some LE`s could be had as a fine edition, which could in some cases be just as fine, but the buyers of LE`s want that little extra something, or at least in some cases that illusion of that extra something. To own something with holds limitations, it adds a little extra to the collection, call it unique. The importance of owning it and how unique it really is all subjective. The uniqueness of a collection should not be measured in money. That would be foul play, and we are all in different life situations also.

Reality check: Here in Norway i bet only 10 - 15 - 20% know or care what the Faerie Queene is, so it could be lonesome to own it, but those that love it. They looove it! - for different reasons naturally. Most importantly i love it, which is the most important since i bought it.

Note: I can`t justify to keep up with that LE race now with other priorities, that is also mainly because i have found and now have what i want which makes me calm enough to settle - no looking MOSTLY for future LE`s with a couple of exeptions, but with no stress involved (I am mainly looking at you Moby Dick).

Tip: If you have time to spare, make it playfull and learn the market while you wait. Do some research, and make a wishlist and look some more. And buy the Faerie Queene if you have space for it, it`s gorgeous! Books like these are luxury, so no need to go bankrupt for this reason only. That would be entrapment, and it could be highly addictive and thus naturally very expensive. Faerie Queene was ment to be my first (it was) and my last (it wasn`t) .. so beware. The most important things come first, and luxury is not among those things, those are bonuses.

12Comatoes
Edited: Jul 6, 2018, 4:57pm Top

I only try to get the one’s I really enjoy. I think the Faerie Queene is nice, but it’s still not my cup of tea. So I don’t buy it.

I brought Moby Dick, Alice in Wonderland (had a card with rewards on it, and it helped me fund the purchase), Micrographia, Hansel and Gretel, Metamorphoses (on sale, no body seems to like this book), Mort leather bound (that was a cheap limited edition). I think that’s it. I don’t care if I get a limited edition, not the end of the world.

Most of my collecting is books, and I try to be frugal. I cook my own meals, don’t go to parties, don’t drink etc so I keep trying to save where I can. Plus I’m very particular about what books I add to my collection. It keeps my collection manageable.

13Seeking_North
Edited: Jul 6, 2018, 6:02pm Top

I know what you mean Pellias.. I bought my first FS book; the Moby Dick LE, while I was a student at NTNU.. and its still in its original packaging after 8 years. Then I purchased 350+ Folio books two years ago, which included some 50+ LE including the Faerie Queene. Still I think I prefer my first Folio Society book; Moby Dick over all, except maybe the the complete FS Shakespeare in my collection.

Once our house is finished in two months I can finally put most of them on display.

Have also talked to the local library to donate a few dozen, as new books, as I dont think I have room for all.

14ultrarightist
Jul 7, 2018, 12:30am Top

>13 Seeking_North: You have the complete Letterpress Shakespeare?

15Levin40
Jul 7, 2018, 3:10am Top

>13 Seeking_North: Then I purchased 350+ Folio books two years ago, which included some 50+ LE including the Faerie Queene.

Wow! That's impressive. Did you win the lottery? Or clean up someone's estate or something?

16cwl
Jul 7, 2018, 5:41am Top

Edison Starks, you must be about fifteen, being generous. Folio limited editions are very middle-of-the-road in terms of cost (middle class in your terms), and very often, production values, too. I have several, buying those I am interested in either direct from FS or second hand at auction if out of print, and I'm really not interested in others, including most of what has come out this year. Now, when you learn about high-end facsimiles or the prices of popular first editions (have a look at Magg's catalogue or Sotheran's to give you an idea), then you'll see the prices that quality books can reach. So, no, FS LE's most definitely are not bought by only the 'rich', as you put it.

17Pellias
Jul 7, 2018, 7:02am Top

>13 Seeking_North: I know. You were the guy who snubbed me for the Wind in the Willows (for a good price) ;) - i was secretly grumpy on you for about a year - i had really dark thoughts, but it has passed now (joking, but it`s true). I have Moby Dick btw.

It`s not easy to find that special someone into Folio Society books in Norway. But nice to know they exist. I am curious though, what motivated you to buy the whole lot. I know the seller wanted to get rid of it, but it would be nice to learn "your Folio Society story" on one of the other more relevant threads dealing with that topic.

- -

On the Shakespeare volumes: That`s nothing. I have the complete Barnes & Noble if i use a lupe i can even read it, that is if i don`t wreck the pages when i turn the leaf like pages. More seriously: I have the 4 Letterpress Shakespeares i want, i am eying "the tempest" but that would be it for me in that series, others would be bonuses, or to be found on a long time run.

: I was eying that collection at the time also, i even had thoughts of talking to my bank about it. This was during my FAD days, so i would be very capable of doing it back then. - I am glad you bought it and the rest, and hopefully you will treasure it. I don`t feel so alone anymore.

18Seeking_North
Jul 7, 2018, 8:29am Top

Pellias.. There are two Winds in the Willows in the collection. :)
I belive consecutive numbers.

The seller wanted to sell the whole collection, even with quite bit of discussion between us. I only tried to purchase the complete Letterpress Shakespeare, but we came to an agrement on price I could live with.

19Pellias
Jul 7, 2018, 9:30am Top

>18 Seeking_North: Ahh. I see. Yes i know you have two. But no longer at the price i was offered meaning almost doubled in value. Offered way under what the market price them on. It's not relevant these days anyway. Hope for some shelfies (as the kids say) of the library when the time is due. I will too. Now first i will watch England get beaten out of the world championship ;) - hoping for a penalty shootout.

20HuxleyTheCat
Jul 7, 2018, 11:03am Top

>19 Pellias: I woke up and it's half-time. Neither are the most exciting team in the tournament.

21Pellias
Jul 7, 2018, 11:37am Top

>20 HuxleyTheCat: Not a game worthy of a quarter final. England not using more than they have too, Sweden lacks skills. Back to sleep again our lovely cat. Prrr

22folio_books
Jul 7, 2018, 11:54am Top

>19 Pellias: Now first i will watch England get beaten out of the world championship ;)

Sorry to disappoint, Øyvind :)

23HuxleyTheCat
Jul 7, 2018, 12:06pm Top

>21 Pellias: " Back to sleep again"

Wake me up when the rugby season starts.

24boldface
Jul 7, 2018, 3:22pm Top

Best day of the World Cup so far. I was able to read quietly in the garden all afternoon without interruption. I can't wait for England to get to the final.

25Pellias
Edited: Jul 7, 2018, 5:50pm Top

>22 folio_books: Like always Glenn (hihi) >23 HuxleyTheCat: There is probably an app for that somewhere, but i will check with the Welsh papers and give you a heads up >24 boldface: You remind me of Donald Duck / i mean it in a positive way. He went camping one time with the boys Huey, Dewey and Louie, took some time of in need of peace and quiet. He wanted solitude. A reporter found out of it then he made newswide, and when he did everybody in the whole town went camping for the sake of peace and quiet and solitude. That left Donald one choice. Go back to his own house and town which were now empty. Everybody else were enjoying the solitude in the woods together. The reference to your comment is in there somewhere.

26Kieran_Cowan
Jul 20, 2018, 7:48am Top

Aren't rich and have two, and bought a third as a gift. The Gulliver's Travels is a prized possession, Riddley Walker is a totally unique volume. No regrets on either. The Mort was a gift to my brother-in-law and his wife, and not an especially expensive LE.

27Edmund_Fitzgerald
Jul 21, 2018, 2:57pm Top

>8 ultrarightist: Didn't see this till now, because I've been away for a while, but thanks!

28dlphcoracl
Edited: Jul 21, 2018, 6:22pm Top

>7 Edmund_Fitzgerald:

"........ it's just that they (LEC books) don't have the same cachet as a status symbol."

Disagree.

It depends on the specific George Macy-era LEC title. Many of the Macy LEC books have a slightly generic look and feel to them despite being published and printed using letterpress technique. However, the best of these LECs are quite prestigious, are avidly sought by private press book collectors, and are far better than most anything the FS has done (with 1 or 2 rare exceptions), even their recent Limited Editions books.

Specific examples of such LEC titles:

1. The Complete Poems of Robert Frost. 2 volumes with flawless book
design, execution and quality of materials by Bruce Rogers.

2. Le Morte D'Arthur - 3 volume set. Printed at the Golden Cockerel Press
with innumerable wood engravings by Robert Gibbings.

3. Leaves of Grass - 2 volume set with photographic illustrations by Edward
Weston.

4. The Wind in the Willows with Arthur Rackham illustrations.

5. The Book of a Thousand Nights and a Night. 6 volume set with 1001
drawings by Valenti Angelo.

6. War and Peace. 6 volume set illustrated by Barnett Friedman.

7. The Grapes of Wrath. 2 volumes, illustrated with 67 two-color
lithographs by Thomas Hart Benton.

8. Walden. Illustrated with original photographs taken at Walden by
Alfred Eisenstadt.

There are other LEC titles as well, but these examples serve to illustrate the point.

29shelob
Jul 22, 2018, 7:14am Top

>28 dlphcoracl:
Alice in Wonderland and Through the Looking-Glass, both signed by the real Alice (Alice Hargreaves née Liddell), etc, etc.

30xrayman
Jul 26, 2018, 1:39pm Top

>1 edisonstarks: I have a fair number of L.E. but am relatively poor financially. Relatively poor compared to my financial position before I started buying L.E. that is.

31Leanne15
Mar 10, 1:19pm Top

I never thought I'd ever own an LE, but I've just acquired my first! Someone in my area was selling Just So Stories for $100 CAD! I replied to her online posting within 30 min and just narrowly beat out another person who was also looking to buy it. It's so beautiful and in immaculate condition. So chuffed!

32SF-72
Mar 10, 2:39pm Top

>31 Leanne15:

That's a fantastic deal, and a very beautiful book.

33kermaier
Mar 10, 3:21pm Top

I had Moby-Dick LE, but just sold it and bought the more modestly bound, but still quite nice, recent standard edition.

34terebinth
Edited: Mar 10, 7:37pm Top

Unless you're seriously poor it's down to priorities. I didn't care for what a career was doing to my mind, so haven't been even close to an average income since 1984: have gathered a couple of dozen LEs in the past 18 years, some of them - Kelmscott Chaucer, Night Thoughts, Lear's Birds - each accounting for about a month of gross household income at the time of purchase. There are just a lot of other costly options (driving, smoking, eating out, holidays etc.) toward which I've never had much or any inclination. This side of biting poverty, being a bit of a skinflint in things that don't matter a lot to you will free up a surprising amount of cash for those that do, whatever they may be. Much harder of course if you're sharing your life with anyone differently disposed.

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