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THE DEEP ONES: "The Shunned House" by H.P. Lovecraft

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1KentonSem
Aug 4, 2018, 1:58pm Top

"The Shunned House" by H.P. Lovecraft

Discussion begins on August 8, 2018.



From ISFDB: "First published in 1928 by W. Paul Cook as a 59 page book with introduction by Frank Belknap Long. No more than 100 copies were printed, and only 6 copies are known to have been circulated." First readily accessible publication was the October, 1937 issue of Weird Tales.

ONLINE VERSIONS

http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/sh.aspx

BIBLIOGRAPHY

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?41893

SELECTED PRINT VERSIONS

H. P. Lovecraft: Masters of the Weird Tale
H.P. Lovecraft: The Complete Fiction
The Dreams in the Witch House and Other Weird Stories
At the Mountains of Madness and Other Novels
At the Mountains of Madness and Other Tales of Terror

MISCELLANY

https://www.tor.com/2015/03/17/lovecraft-reread-a-very-scientific-haunting-the-s...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shunned_House
https://moovitapp.com/index/en/public_transit-H_P__Lovecraft_s_The_Shunned_House...
http://tinyurl.com/yc48tt9g

2elenchus
Aug 4, 2018, 3:44pm Top

Online for me, and in this case I don't think the story is contained in any of my (boxed up) titles so it would be online regardless.

I suspect also that I've never read this one, though I'll admit to not recognising many HPL titles apart from the canonical, so I could be mistaken.

3KentonSem
Aug 4, 2018, 4:33pm Top

Only have this in the massive Centipede volume. Didn't realize that until now!

4paradoxosalpha
Aug 4, 2018, 7:06pm Top

Splendid Brundage, there.

5Crypto-Willobie
Aug 5, 2018, 12:21am Top

It's in that 'Tales of HPL' edited by Joyce Carol Oates.

6KentonSem
Aug 5, 2018, 11:39am Top

It's also in the Library of America volume. Should be able to grab that when I get to work tomorrow.

7elenchus
Aug 5, 2018, 5:12pm Top

Given the curious publication history and Robert Weinberg's description as "one of Lovecraft's best short novels", I look forward to deciding whether or not I agree. If so good, was it merely ahead of its time or was it financial pressures that let over a decade pass between writing and print? Evidently people knew about it since 1928: Frank Belknap Long wrote an introduction for it, since it was printed but left unbound. (Not a case of HPL leaving it in a drawer for 13 years.) Haven't found more detail than what's in Wikipedia, but my first suspicion is that the publication rights were bound up with W. Paul Cook's Recluse Press and that obstacle wasn't sorted until Weird Tales came along.

8paradoxosalpha
Edited: Aug 5, 2018, 7:37pm Top

I think I may not have ever read this one!

I've got it handy in:

9AndreasJ
Aug 8, 2018, 6:57am Top

I read it in an electronic version that, for whatever reason, had a fair lot of extraneous spaces, generally splitting words at morpheme boundaries, e.g. "consider able" for "considerable". OCR errors?

I'd read this before, but that was a decade or more ago, and about the only thing I remembered was the scene where the buried vampire is destroyed by acid. And I'm calling it a "vampire" because for all the narrator's rationalization in terms of modern physics, a plainly supernatural interpretation seems to fit the events of the story better.

Something we've discussed before with Lovecraft is that the "final revelations" of his stories are often foreshadowed beyond any surprise but on the part of the most naive of readers. Here's there's not only no "final revelation", but we're straight up told that "the horror is gone" as the end of ch. 2. What's the point of telling the reader already at this point that the horror has been vanquished, rather than simply survived?

10KentonSem
Edited: Aug 8, 2018, 9:41am Top

I really enjoy it when HPL is in his more purely gothic mode, as we find here. Frankly, I prefer his descriptions of brooding Providence to those of its eldritch horrors. The house itself is the major character in this story - as it had better be - and it is brought to menacing life with great care and skill. I had to go back and compare the descriptions of it to photographs of the real house. Grandpa nails it, of course, and the story itself adds some nuance back into to those images.

I found the "vampire", as Andreas aptly describes it, and despite HPL's enjoyable attempt at a "their magic is our science" explanation, to be nearly forgettable compared to the house itself and its basement environs. Even more fun than that, however, is the first half, in which the narrator traces the unfortunate history of the cursed Harris family and their immediate circle. Fascinating, high-gothic stuff. Nathaniel Hawthorne would be proud. I was also reminded of the thrilling genealogical mystery found in William H. Hallahan's great horror novel The Search for William Tully.

I have to wonder how the narrator would explain away his dissolved uncle at the coroner's inquest.

11elenchus
Edited: Aug 8, 2018, 11:41am Top

Rugose! Crookes tubes! HPL is usually good for introducing me to unfamiliar vocabulary, and no exception here.

Despite the narrator's flash decision not to use the flamethrower, he ends up unable to X-Ray the vampire to death, and ultimately does destroy it bodily via acid. I wonder if the flamethrower would have worked, though it's an open question whether the yellow vapour was anything more than a projection of the gelatinous creature buried below the cellar.

The house is certainly the feature here. Curious that HPL opted to exorcise it rather than allow its malevolence to endure into the present. Perhaps he wanted to bring his story into line with current Providence lore, and the house was no longer shunned? If so, I further wonder if the "industrial accident" he hints at near the end is also historical. I wasn't able to identify any such event after a quick online search, but it did suggest another parallel HPL may have had in mind: the 1918-19 influenza epidemic. Yellow vapours are suggestive in this light (less for scientific accuracy than impressionistic character).

12elenchus
Aug 8, 2018, 11:59am Top

HPL's link of Jacques Roulet to the werewolf of Caude apparently borrows from the same legend as Cabell used in "The White Robe", which we read earlier. The legend is shared by Baring-Gould in The Book of Were-wolves.

13KentonSem
Edited: Aug 8, 2018, 1:14pm Top

One thing that I did like about the ending was the unearthing of the giant blue elbow, which is simultaneously funny and freakish. Sort of like finding a Basil Wolverton monster buried in the basement. I know we've encountered giant body parts once or twice before in our Weird meanderings, but I can't quite place them...

14AndreasJ
Aug 8, 2018, 2:31pm Top

>13 KentonSem:

The titular critter from "The Drowned Giant" naturally had a complete set of giant body parts, but maybe that's not what you're thinking of?

15KentonSem
Aug 8, 2018, 3:07pm Top

>14 AndreasJ:

Hmmm... that could well be it. Or maybe it was just a dream I had. :-D

16Crypto-Willobie
Aug 8, 2018, 4:52pm Top

>13 KentonSem: There's a giant foot (how Pythonesque!) in The Castle of Otranto. Dunno if that's been read here though...

17housefulofpaper
Aug 8, 2018, 5:33pm Top

>13 KentonSem:
I don't think we've done "Imprisoned with the Pharaohs"/ "Under the Pyramids" but Lovecraft uses a variation of the idea there.

18KentonSem
Aug 8, 2018, 5:52pm Top

>16 Crypto-Willobie:

Aha. That rings a bell! Did HPL mention it in Supernatural Horror in Literature?

>17 housefulofpaper:

Deep Ones should do IwtP! I was thinking that HPL used the idea elsewhere.

Maybe we've stumbled onto a very obscure weird trope.

19Zambaco
Aug 9, 2018, 1:10pm Top

Coincidentally, I had just been reading Robert Westall's 'The Wheatstone Pond', which has such a similar plot - giant creature buried under spooky old house taints the whole neighbourhood with evil - that I wondered if Westall had read this one. Both stories really evoked the eldritch-old-house atmosphere beautifully and both ended very similarly, although Westall's monster is more demonic in nature and goes up in flames rather than being dissolved in acid.

Anyway, despite the derivativeness (if that's a word) I enjoyed them both.

20RandyStafford
Aug 11, 2018, 12:23am Top

On re-reading this story after a number of years, I noticed that this story has one of the earliest references to the Exeter vampire story which only got wider coverage in the 2000s. (At least the Wikipedia only has sources that recent.)

It also strikes me as a transition story for Lovecraft. It’s a gothic tale centered around the rumors around a house and the evil is traced through history. It strikes me that this 1924 story prefigures 1926’s “The Call of Cthulhu” which is sort of an international gothic tracing evil through history in several locations. The idea of a malevolent presence sapping people’s lives figures prefigures 1927’s “The Colour Out of Space”. The introduction of a new scientific ideas and apparatus (the acid and Crookes Tube and flamethrower) point the way to greater use of science in later Lovecraft stories though only the acid works here in destroying the monster.

21housefulofpaper
Aug 11, 2018, 5:36pm Top

>20 RandyStafford:
The point about this being a transitional story was one that occurred to me a well, although as it features quite heavily in the HPL/CAS correspondence collected in Dawnward Spire, Lonely Hill, making its place in the chronology clear, I don't give myself any credit for noticing those story elements. We could add the antiquarianism that the story shares with "The Case of Charles Dexter Ward", I think. And - although this might be a stretch - the vampire's victims showing signs of possession and crying out in French is along the lines of De La Poer’s regression in “The Rats in the Walls”.

22AndreasJ
Aug 12, 2018, 2:25am Top

I hadn't grokked that the story was written several years before the 1928 publication: I even thought about, altho didn't get around to, remarking that its unusual for a post-1926 story in not invoking any "Mythos" names.

24elenchus
Sep 4, 2018, 12:49pm Top

It's unclear from the article that HPL ever owned the bible himself, though he may have as it was the Family Bible. I was hoping for indications he had marked certain passages for inspiration. Did he ever use a bible passage as epigraph?

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