HomeGroupsTalkZeitgeist
This site uses cookies to deliver our services, improve performance, for analytics, and (if not signed in) for advertising. By using LibraryThing you acknowledge that you have read and understand our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. Your use of the site and services is subject to these policies and terms.
  • LibraryThing
  • Book discussions
  • Your LibraryThing
  • Join to start using.

Have you seen the Yellow Sign?

The Weird Tradition

Join LibraryThing to post.

1paradoxosalpha
Edited: Dec 12, 2018, 11:19am Top

A King in Yellow?



Is France headed for a Sixth Republic?

A holiday gift everyone can enjoy: https://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/70315737/
(Maybe toss in a Guy Fawkes mask to boot?)

There are yellow vests in the Low Countries too.
https://www.euronews.com/2018/12/08/brussels-belgium-police-arrest-yellow-vest-p...

Egypt sees them as a threat.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/12/11/yell-d11.html

All of this is unsurprisingly but disappointingly muted and misrepresented in the propagandistic US mass media.

2elenchus
Dec 12, 2018, 11:49am Top

Certainly public violence incited by the sight of yellow vests (for whatever motives and by whichever "side") easily qualifies as a sign of madness. At this point, the actors are engaged in a spectacle with a recognised script, as well.

3KentonSem
Dec 12, 2018, 11:56am Top

Here in the U.S. I think yellow vests most often represent road construction ahead.

Who is the Yellow King?!

4paradoxosalpha
Dec 13, 2018, 2:55pm Top

This article points out that yellow is the opposite of purple and since purple is the color of royalty, a "king in yellow" is an overthrowing of the symbolic order.

5drneutron
Edited: Dec 13, 2018, 3:19pm Top

Or perhaps The King in Yellow

6elenchus
Dec 13, 2018, 4:21pm Top

>4 paradoxosalpha:
An interesting analysis, and yet more or less randomly true. That is, that the U.S. political parties are aligned with red (GOP) and blue (Democrats), is random, making their alignment (when combined) with royal purple similarly random. It is fascinating the two systems of simulacra align so perfectly: U.S. political factions and sectors from a colour wheel.

>5 drneutron:
On the other hand, the alignment of this thread's title and Chambers' book is the opposite of random!

7paradoxosalpha
Edited: Dec 13, 2018, 5:23pm Top

>6 elenchus: That is, that the U.S. political parties are aligned with red (GOP) and blue (Democrats), is random

I don't think it's so random. Those colors have been consistently identified with the parties for only about 20 years, as a function of decisions made in the mass media for reporting elections. Clearly, they were both chosen as "national" colors, ones from the flag, where the third color "white" would have been problematic. But they were in fact assigned in such a way as to contradict centuries of previous usage in Europe, where "red" is on the ideological left and "blue" on the ideological right.

It's the same reason why the US has a "Labor Day" in the autumn.

Edited to add: Of course, both establishment parties are "two wings of the same bird of prey" (as Upton Sinclair put it), and both are toward the "right" end of a more objective political spectrum. They get to monopolize the "flag" colors because "third" parties are inherently "un-American."

8elenchus
Dec 13, 2018, 10:38pm Top

Good point about the US scheme reversing the Continental / British scheme! Somehow I'd not consciously noticed that, though I'd always found it ironic that the party of Red Scare McCarthyism was red. Also a bit surprised that scheme is so recent ... I would have guessed it extended back to Reagan. This article has a few tidbits on alleged rationale for the colour picks -- but I think your broader point still stands, those reasons could be epiphenomena as readily as proximal cause.

9WeeTurtle
Dec 17, 2018, 3:14am Top

So where does the orange come from?

I've never though about colour associations much, except to note that Canada's is the reverse of the US, somewhat, with Red being Liberal and Blue being Conservative, (and somewhere along the lines there was a "white" party and the NDP (New Democratic Party) got the nickname of "pink" because they fell in between that party and the Liberals).

We now have four national parties so in comes Orange (NDP) and Green (Green!). I assume the Green party has green by both name and the environmental focus. I guess, as the NDP is slightly left leaning of Liberal, orange makes sense as on the colour wheel that it falls (in one direction anyway) on the opposite side of red than blue. Or maybe it just looks okay when all the colours are put together on a map.

On the yellow vest, to me those are people who you need to be on alert for, whether they are sign men for construction or bikers in the dark. I don't think much of them unless I'm in my car.

(I might have something more relevant to say once I've actually read the King in Yellow. ;))

10paradoxosalpha
Dec 17, 2018, 11:28am Top

US Republicans and Democrats are both regrettably "green" ($$$$$) in their orientation.

11paradoxosalpha
Dec 17, 2018, 1:57pm Top

>9 WeeTurtle: Canada's is the reverse of the US, somewhat, with Red being Liberal and Blue being Conservative

I'll bet you have Labor Day on May 1, too.

12WeeTurtle
Edited: Dec 18, 2018, 4:44am Top

>11 paradoxosalpha:

Actually it's the first Monday in September. I'm not sure how we end up with the dates we do, like Thanksgiving in October instead of November. (Some people ask why we have Thanksgiving at all.)

Group: The Weird Tradition

470 members

15,143 messages

About

This topic is not marked as primarily about any work, author or other topic.

About | Contact | Privacy/Terms | Help/FAQs | Blog | Store | APIs | TinyCat | Legacy Libraries | Early Reviewers | Common Knowledge | 134,852,786 books! | Top bar: Always visible