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THE DEEP ONES: "A Descent into the Maelstrom" by Edgar Allan Poe

The Weird Tradition

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2AndreasJ
Jun 28, 10:35am Top

Since this story is in the LT DB as a work, I'll take the opportunity to About it: A Descent into the Maelstrom

I'll probably read it out of my ancient Penguin Selected Tales, but miss the conversation due to travel.

3elenchus
Jun 28, 11:01am Top

I may be able to dig out one of my hardback Poe collections, but online for me if not.

4AndreasJ
Jul 5, 3:26am Top

Awfully quiet in here.

Frankly, I don’t think this is among Poe’s best work. The portrayal of the Maelstrom is too over the top, and I can’t buy the fisherman’s combination of detached observation and going white-haired in a day.

5KentonSem
Jul 5, 8:08am Top

The opening, in which the narrator has to fall down and grasp at shrubbery due to his phobic reaction to the precipitous drop in front of him, is highly accurate. I've experienced it myself! I liked the straight-out adventure parts, such as the awe-inspiring vista that suddenly opens up at the top of Mt. Helseggen or the old man's description of the highly dangerous fishing expeditions he and his brothers had taken, much more than the "descent" itself. The latter, with all the debris (and possibly an animal or two) flying past, reminded me too much of THE WIZARD OF OZ. Still the ship is obviously going to end up going down the drain, and I guess there's not much more to be expected, unless the crew is going to wash up in Pellucidar.

I kept reading mainly to find out how the old man would survive the Maelstrom. I suppose it's explained satisfactorily enough, although the whole sequence still borders on tall-tale territory. It's all lesser Poe, but it remains somewhat interesting as an artifact of early science fiction.

6Zambaco
Jul 5, 9:22am Top

It seemd to me very much a straight adventure-yarn - more Jules Verne than Edgar Allan Poe. It was hard to see it as the work of the author of 'The masque of the red death' or 'The fall of the house of Usher'. A bit of a pot boiler, perhaps?

7AndreasJ
Jul 5, 1:09pm Top

While it’s not Poe at his best, I don’t think there’s anything atypical of him in it. “The Gold-Bug” is another adventure-yarn of his we’ve read, and the fisherman’s figuring out how to survive between direct observation and remembered principle is perfectly typical of Poe in his “ratiocination” mode.

8RandyStafford
Jul 11, 3:00pm Top

Unusually, since I was doing a blog post on the story, I looked up a lot of criticism on it.

What follows will not be my own thoughts, but I'm not going to source everything. I hope I'm not too obscure.

First, Poe is skeptical of rationality in this story. The Norwegian fisherman may have been able to skirt the edge of the whirlpool through that emblem of rationality, a watch, but it breaks. Like the hero of Poe's "The Pit and the Pendulum", the Norwegian narrator spends a lot of time measuring and calculating his environment. But it doesn't do him any good until he resigns himself to death and accepts the mystery of the Maelstrom. (Incidentally, Poe is the only person who ever seems, in English, seems to have put an umlaut on Maelstrom.) You'll also note the narrator doubts the measurements he's heard for the depth of the sea where the whirlpool forms.

Also, the Norwegian escapes less by scientific rationality than an aesthetic appreciation of the inside of the whirlpool. In effect, appreciating beauty provides salvation where mere scientific observation (like that watch) doesn't.

The nature of the whirlpool isn't really explained. The narrator of the story disbelieves, after actually seeing the whirlpool, all the explanations he's heard. The Norwegian offers an explanation -- after stating he can't remember what the schoolteacher told him. Stephen Peithman's annotation for the version I read says Poe just made up his explanation.

Interestingly, if you do a search using "Poe", "black hole", and "Descent into the Maelstrom", you'll find a fair number of scientific references alluding to the story as an example of a rotating vortice be it a rotating black hole or an ocean vortex.

The story seems to owe a debt to Samuel Taylor Coleridge's "The Rime of the Ancient Mariner". Both have old men determined to tell their tale about brushing against the mysteries of nature. Both have men who get into trouble via hubris. The Mariner shoots an albatross. The Norwegian trusts his watch and past experience about detecting storms before they approach. Both have violations of community norms. Again, it's shooting the albatross for the Mariner. In Poe's story, though, it's not the Norwegian that violates standards. It's his older brother wresting him from the ring.

In particular, the moon plays a part in revealing mysteries in both. A writer in Natural History in 1935 noted that the whole bit with the moon doesn't make sense in Poe's story given the time of year and latitude. The sun would still be out and the moon barely above the horizon.

David G. Hartwell and Kathryn Cramer's Ascent of Wonder call this a founding text in hard science fiction where knowledge can be deadly but numinous in revelation: "knowledge of the most disturbing, overwhelming kind -- that which is bigger than one's loving or hating it".

>6 Zambaco: Poe fan Jules Verne, in fact, used the whirlpool to take Captain Nemo off the stage in Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea.

9AndreasJ
Jul 11, 3:34pm Top

>8 RandyStafford: Incidentally, Poe is the only person who ever seems, in English, seems to have put an umlaut on Maelstrom

It's not entirely clear why he did so - it's not there in the Dutch original maelstrom (modern spelling maalstroom), nor in Norwegian malstrøm*.

The only language that does put one there seems to be Swedish - malström - but there seems to be no reason he should use a half-Swedish spelling.

* Or malstraum in Nynorsk orthography, but that didn't exist in Poe's day.

10RandyStafford
Jul 11, 3:47pm Top

Incidentally, I came across this Ian Miller illustration for the story, commissioned for a project that was never completed: https://www.theguardian.com/books/gallery/2014/mar/03/fantasy-artwork-ian-miller...

11KentonSem
Edited: Jul 15, 11:54am Top

>10 RandyStafford:

Very nice artwork, especially for Maelstrom. Did he do the cover for Black Seas of Infinity?

12elenchus
Edited: Jul 20, 9:52pm Top

Some additional links to geographical background on the locale and actual maelstroms:

Video of strongest tidal current identified on Earth (Saltstraumen, Norway)
Brief explainer video on tidal currents
Yahoo! Answers entry on where Helseggen might be
Explanation and photo of islands Vurrgh and Moskoe

13elenchus
Jul 20, 11:51pm Top

>10 RandyStafford:
Great Miller illustrations, indeed. Would that I ever could rise to patron and commission an original work by a favourite artist.

I can't add much to what was said before. I briefly wondered, after the early speculation that the maelstrom descends to the planet core via Gulf of Bothnia, whether the old man would see a gigantic eye or something else fittingly horrific and arational at the bottom of the funnel. But no, that would be HPL, not Poe.

Poe loosely quotes the same (I think?) James Glanville as Shirley Jackson used in "The Daemon-Lover", though a different of his works.

14Crypto-Willobie
Jul 21, 8:20am Top

>13 elenchus:
Joseph Glanvill?
James Glanville is a former Va. Tech prof who wrote oin Cabell as ghistorian.

15elenchus
Jul 21, 4:39pm Top

>14 Crypto-Willobie:

Yes, Joseph not James! If I picked up "James" from Cabellania, it was unconscious. Though I see that "Glanville / Glanvil" is spelled in various ways, which happened in the 18c and before, so maybe or maybe not the same author.

16Diabolical_DrZ
Jul 25, 12:30am Top

https://lithub.com/george-orwell-and-more-in-the-borderlands-of-life-and-death/

This piece is only tangentially connected to the discussion of Poe's tale or weird tradition in general but reminded me of this discussion and the idea of "thin places" seemed appropos

17housefulofpaper
Aug 1, 7:08pm Top

>8 RandyStafford:
Fascinating angles on the story. I have to confess they didn't occur to me. I did pick up on the feel of the story as being more science fiction than, say, fantasy, horror or adventure. I was reminded of something I haven't read for something like forty years, "Neutron Star" by Larry Niven.

18RandyStafford
Aug 1, 10:02pm Top

>17 housefulofpaper: Actually, it struck me as similar to "Neutron Star" as well. A man thinks his way free of a devouring and mysterious natural wonder in both.

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