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I am relatively new to this group. I have read some threads and posted a little. I am looking for dog advice and I wasn't sure where else to turn.
I have a 10 1/2 year old Scottie. I got him 4 years ago from the local humane society. He is my first dog ever and came completely trained. I am toying with the idea of getting a scottie puppy. Am I nuts?
I am a teacher, so I will be here all summer. In the fall I am gone all day. The puppies I am thinking of will only be five months at that time.
I would love to hear from both sides: whether to get another dog or reasons not to. Also, any personal experience you may have had adding another dog to your family would be great.
In general, I find two dogs are easier than one. They keep each other company when you are out, and can have a positive influence on each others behavior.
That said there are many exceptions. Some dogs that are used to being an only dog may be jealous of a new one and they can share bad habits as well as good.
No, I don't believe you are nuts for debating on a 2nd dog. My Toto is 21 months now. I got him at 10weeks. He was ideal as far as training went. He was crate trained, and I worked during the day, but managed to get home 3 or 4 times since I'm only 2 miles away, and do some traveling, so I would make frequent pit stops to walk him. They can't be stuck in a crate for 8 hours as a puppy, they need to be relieved, and they wont want to go in their crate. But since you'll be home for the summer your good, the pup should be trained by then. May I ask who will have the pups before you get one? and will they be doing any training?
As far as two dogs living together I totaly agree with quartzite, that they would be great compony for each other. I live in a small (but cozy) cond and really do not have room for two dogs. I don't have a back yard or the space for them to run and play. When Toto's brother (who lives with my Neice) comes to visit its like a tornado ran through the place. LOL
I'll stop now and give others a chance to chime in, you'll get some great advice here. Keep us posted.
I, in limited experience, found that an older dog doesn't like puppies. We had a 11 year old Lab and when we got a puppy, he tormented her. The puppy just wanted to play constantly and she couldn't keep up. She wouldn't growl or discipline the puppy she just tried to get away. She would stuff herself under our bed and open the bottem cabinet in the bathroom to hide from the puppy. We ended up giving the puppy away because she was so stressed. She stopped eating and drinking and was constantly in the cabinet in the bathroom.
I think a lot depends on the health and activity levels of your existing dog. A dog that is already feeling its age can be just pestered to death (though not literally I hope) by a puppy and might be better off with a slightly older companion that has calmed down a bit. We've experienced both multiple and single dogs and right now a single dog suits my lifestyle and I am with him pretty much 24/7. If you are out part of the time I think it is a great thing for your dog to have a canine companion though, again, much will depend on your dog's character. I assume he does generally enjoy the company of other dogs or you wouldn't be considering this?
Shouldn't be the sole reason for getting a second dog, I know, but I do think that having a second dog to carry on can soften the blow a bit when the older dog is no longer around. Whether that should influence your decision is up to you.
For specific Scottie advice, Jody is your best bet. I'm guessing she's already seen this but, if not, I'll make sure she does! Good luck whatever you decide!
3, ljreader The puppies are with their mother's family and are only paper trained right now.
Thanks everyone for your input. I have decided it wouldn't be fair for Gregor (my scottie) to bring in another dog at this time. It also doesn't seem like it would be fair to the puppy that I would be gone all day in a few months. I will just have to wait.
If anyone has anything else to add, please do!
Whatever your decision you know it is the right one for you and Gregor (fabulous name!) He's a lucky boy to have a family who put him first. Good luck for the future.
Until January I had mother and daughter mini schnauzers. They had been inseparable from the daughter's birth and obviously loved each other dearly. Lady (the mom) died in early January. I was devastated and Daisy (the daughter) seemed lost and lonely too. One tremendous comfort for me coming home from having Lady put down was Daisy greeting us at the door. At least we still had one beloved dog.
My husband and I decided to get a puppy for two main reasons. We thought that Daisy would be lonely as a single. And as she is 12+ we know we're not going to have her with us for too many more years and I couldn't bear the thought of coming home to an empty house at her passing. Lady was 14 when she died.
Don't get me wrong. I do not regret getting our puppy Pippin one bit. I love him tremendously. But Daisy does not. He torments her constantly. She never snarls or bites him, but she is always jumping up on the couch to get away from him, pushing him out of the way to snuggle up with me, barking this particular, high pitched bark (I've never heard from her before) at him when he's being particulary annoying. She endures him.
I just feel constantly pulled in two directions. I take the dogs on separate walks so that Daisy can enjoy some one-on-one time with just me. She cuddles in bed with me at night after Pippin as gone into his crate for the night. I try and make sure she gets some extra attention to compensate for the time I spend with Pippin on his training and cuddling and playing that he needs as a puppy.
If I had to do it all over again I would wait, endure the heartache of an empty, dogless house and get my puppy after Daisy was gone.
Those are just my thoughts on the subject for whatever they're worth.
I have three senior dogs.
Henry (SpanielX - age 10) was our first rescue and after about 9 months, we brought in Suki (age 10) as a companion for him. He tolerates here - they aren't buddy-buddy, but then she's a Pomeranian who has her issues (i.e., personal space). About 3 months ago, I got another senior dog, Tara (American Eskimo - 14 years) who is more of a companion to Henry than Suki ever was. They share the dog bed, but she really wants to be with me if I'm home.
I don't think any of my dogs would tolerate a pup -- there are younger dogs in the nabe who they play with, but when the rambunctiousness gets too much, they let the young dog know. That they're all senior dogs makes for a generally calm house -- except at dinner time. At that point, they're young again! :)
My last dog was a Scottie. -"MacGyver"- In the later years, we often considered a 2nd dog. By the time he was 10, I think he was a bit too "set in his ways" to add another dog. He had certainly established himself as the king pin. (We had a set of twins when he was about 8 and it really effected him...took him a while to get over that one;) He passed on at age 13 and we found that no dog could fill his shoes! We did eventually get another scottie, but while he was still a very young puppy, we also adopted a westie:) They get along famously...really good friends. I think it may have had to do with the timing of it. We didn't give "MacArthur" enough time to really become the dominant force in the house. Now he shares that spot with "Scarlett" and it works well...we've even thought about a 3rd?:)
Wow, everyone! Thanks for your input. It sounds like I am making the right decision. I will miss the cuteness and picking out a name and especially the comfort when Gregor is not longer here, but for now this will be the best.
OK, here I come with slightly different experiences. I rescued Nicky at age 5 from a shelter. He was a very well behaved, trained, and sweet dog (has a bit of a fear issue). By the way, he's a black miniature schnauzer. When I began to realize I was head over heels in love with him (I had just retired from teaching) and he was not in the best of health I would start to "tear up" at the thought of his dying. Accidently, without my looking at all, although I had been thinking.... I came upon a litter of miniature schnauzers near where I worked. I fell for a little girl puppy and bought her. Her name is Greta Garbo. I got her at 8 weeks. Nicky does seem to appreciate having company but Greta never messed with him too much. When she wanted to mess around it was me she looked at. He probably told her off a few times but bottom line she is the dominate dog. He is much loved and suffers not at all. She is also much loved and a bit of a bitch, but then she's a dog.
She loves the baby I take care of daily. She likes to protect the baby when the baby is sleeping. Nicky pretty much does not know the baby exists.
Now - I am retired and with both dogs pretty much all the time. And when I am not with them I have a neighbor who loves them and will come let them out into the fenced yard.
Greta was easy to train, but I did take her to classes so I knew I was doing a good job. She would be hard to live with if she had no training.
So. I think my decision worked out very well but there are differences between your situation and mine. And Scotties have a small reputation for "grochiness" yes? More likely that a puppy would drive the adult a bit crazy, maybe.
Good luck with your new dog.
I think that our acquiring three dogs (from different places) only worked because they were all still babies (18 months, 9 months, 7 weeks) and there were four of us around constantly to devote time and energy to them (my kids were all in high school then, and it was late spring, almost time for our summer vacation). That was five years ago and it has all worked out very well.
Tucker has become the dominant dog in the house, but since he's so loving the girls don't seem to mind that at all. He actually house-trained my other dogs -- they did a real follow-the-leader thing and it was the easiest potty training I'd ever been through! Now, if only I'd had a dog like Tucker when my own children were little. . .I might have been spared a lot of trauma!
I'm wondering if borrowing another dog for a few days would help. We had a friends Jack Russell, Bob, come to stay for about ten days and Scottie took to sharing very well. They got a bit snappy at dinner times but would happily share a bean bag together, go for walks together, terrierise next doors cat really well together and generally double up to beg treats and harrass me until they got whatever they wanted. She missed him very much when he went home.
My mum also has a Bob and he gets on well with Scottie now too (although I have just revealed in the Cranky Pants thread that on their first meeting he lifted his leg and peed on her.) They sleep happily together on the sofa and enjoy a game or two when Bob is feeling active enough to run anywhere.
Those were older dogs but she gets on well with younger dogs too. My brothers year and a half old spaniel, George, is a fighting and biting partner and they wear each other out. It sounds like a pack of wolves fighting a pack of bears but they love it and there's never a mark on them when they are finished. And my Aunt has a border terrier, Max, who likes to play games where they both pull a chew toy until it rips apart.
So she is a very sociable scottie, gets on with any age of dog. But I would definetely introduce Gregor to different ages of dogs to see if he gets along happily with them for long on his territory.
or, there is always the option of adopting a young adult dog ( 3 ish).. of the opposite sex, from the shelter...
ETA Jody's idea is a terrific one btw
#6 Compski, I think you made the right decision for you and Gregor.
My stories of new puppies are different than others. Whenever we've gotten new dogs, they get along great.
At first they just had Cricket (lab), but then they adopted a 2-year-old dog (golden retriever) who lived next door to my grandparents. She was a very lively dog and her owners didn't want her anymore cause she would knock over their 2-year-old son. My parents took in Jessie and she and Cricket were best buds. After Cricket died, we got (Jessie's) Shadow (lab/springer spaniel). He and Jessie were great companions. When Jessie got old, she lost her hearing. Shadow would run over and get her when it was time to come in for dinner or something. He is a sweetheart. Jessie was put to sleep, and then a few years later we got "the puppies". Two Cardigan Welsh Corgis, Llawen and Frodo. Shadow was almost 7 when we got them. We thought he needed a buddy, cause he was lonely and still had energy. He would run around with them in the backyard. Now he still puts up with them even though he's old (12). They all get along just fine. We haven't had any problems.
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