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Topic:  Meta Given's Modern Encyclopedia of Cooking 0 / 19 read

Aug 21, 2008, 8:59pm (top)Message 1: sungene

There are 39 owners of this book on LT. I'd love to know how you came to own this vintage cookbook set, and what do you like most about it?

My story is: my father, a Korean immigrant, was a houseboy for many years in NY during the 1930s. When he began his own family and returned to the U.S., a former employer gave him this set. And where else can you learn about how to make tomato aspic and ham loaf?

Aug 22, 2008, 8:37am (top)Message 2: karenmarie

Hey sungene -

A co-worker and friend of mine had taught some cooking classes and had quite a few cookbooks. When she and her husband divorced, HE got the Meta Givens and she was distraught. This was pre-internet days, and I called and drove all over Los Angeles and finally found both volumes for her, coverless, from different printings. It was the best I could do in 1990. I think I paid about $30 for one and $50 for the other. She was ecstatic to get them.

I moved to North Carolina in 1991. One day in 1992 I was in a ratty old second hand book store in Chapel Hill and there they were! Both volumes, dust jackets not perfect but pretty good, and I paid $10 for the set.

I use several of the recipes. My two favorites are her medium white sauce which I use now for EVERY recipe calling for white sauce, and her pumpkin pie recipe. The spices are different than what's on the Libby's can and we prefer it.

Aug 22, 2008, 1:52pm (top)Message 3: Ortolan

I've never heard of this set until you brought it up, sungene, but now I'm intrigued!

Re: Ham loaf... I use a recipe from a recent edition of Joy of Cooking. Once I made it, there was no way I could go back to making regular meat loaf-- it's just so much better. It will probably continue to be out of fashion until one of the Food Network bobbleheads pretends to invent it on one of their episodes.

Aug 22, 2008, 6:33pm (top)Message 4: sungene

Karenmarie: Great story! Thanks for saying.
Ortolan: Hopefully we'll make this a rare and coveted cookbook set--ask your foodie friends if they've heard of it.

Message edited by its author, Aug 22, 2008, 6:35pm.

Aug 22, 2008, 9:10pm (top)Message 5: briarwren

I received this book when my grandmother passed on and I inherited her extensive cook book set. (30+ volumes of which I've only catologued a few here)

This is one of the few books that I use from that collection and I love it, although, I couldn't say which recipes are my favorites right now. I'm out of town, so I can't check my tags.

I have limited space in my tiny apartment and all of my cook books are shoved into a deep cupboard stacked three deep. The one's I use the most are towards the front, and this one is one of the first. I felt quite silly because it sat in a box for over a year before I actually got around to looking at those books (it was too soon after Gram's passing) and I was excited to discover this was in there and what a gem it was. Of course, now I love using it because I feel a little closer to her and I wonder which recipes she may have used or under what circumstances stuff was splatted across a page. :D

However, I think I have only one volume of this set? But it's really big, so maybe it's a combined volume? How can I tell which volume I have? Like I said, I'm not home right now (I'm visiting my parents with the kids and will be here for a few more days) so I can't check.

Aug 22, 2008, 10:13pm (top)Message 6: briarwren

Hey, I do have the other book! Or, at least I do now. I feel a bit silly about it since I never realized or noticed that what I had was part of a set.

I mentioned this to my mother and she told me that she hadn't actually given me all of Gram's books; that there were two more boxes out in the garage. As I was going through them, I found the other volume. Yay.

I've also set aside 20 more cook books to haul home with me (only about 1/3 of what was out there). My husband isn't going to be very happy. :D

I'm looking forward to getting these catologued.

Aug 23, 2008, 2:14am (top)Message 7: aviddiva

I think I got this set at a yard sale or library sale -- I know I didn't pay more than a couple of dollars for it, but I like older cookbooks and I recognized the name Meta Givens so I picked it up. I look at the recipes from time to time, but I haven't really used it much. Maybe I'll have to give it another look!

Aug 23, 2008, 7:57am (top)Message 8: TLCrawford

I only have Vol. 1, several years ago at an estate auction my wife and I picked up 7 boxes of cookbooks. I think we only paid $6 for each box. Since then she has earned her Masters Degree and I have gone back to get my BA. We have not had much free time for what we used to call experemental food night so we have not tried any of the recepies. I skimmed through it last night and the first half looks like nutrition primer.

Aug 23, 2008, 2:26pm (top)Message 9: MrsLee

Would someone like to tell the rest of us who don't know about Meta Givens? I've never heard of her, so I'm wondering what makes these books treasured? Why do you like them so?

Aug 23, 2008, 5:41pm (top)Message 10: sungene

Gosh, I don't know much about Meta Given herself except that she's the author of these cookbooks, and another one I think on cakes. Google doesn't yield much more about her. I suppose she might a response to the early Irma Rombauer JOY OF COOKING. But what a great name, especially in this day of meta-fiction, and other meta-madnesses. The menu plans and nutritional info, as well as the vintage treatment of foodstuffs and preserving are fascinating to me. Food is meta-culture, no?

Aug 24, 2008, 9:03am (top)Message 11: karenmarie

Speaking of Joy of Cooking, I have 3 of the editions - a facsimile of the original edition that my husband got me for Christmas one year, a 1951 edition of my MiL's, and my own very ratty and heavily used 1970s version with the white cover.

Aug 24, 2008, 10:08pm (top)Message 12: sungene

This from dorothyvance:

I got my copy of Modern Encycl. of Cooking when my Mom passed away in 1994. Hers is a 1952, 10th printing. I remember this cookbook as always being their when I was a child. My Mom was always using it and I was so happy to get 'custody' of it! I've left her slips of paper in it with the handwritten notes about changes she made or such. It's a family treasure for me.

Sep 11, 2008, 2:44am (top)Message 13: maedb

Okay, color me embarassed. I don't remember how I came by these. I think probably when some friend was moving, they sent them my way because I have a bunch of old cookbooks. I know they came to me right before my back went out, and I haven't been cooking very much the past few years. I haven't even cracked the spine yet.

But! Reading these comments has me really curious now. I'll be seeing what they're about in the next few days. So thanks for a good topic and the inspiration!

Aug 20, 2009, 2:25pm (top)Message 14: annsews

Purchased my first set (Meta Givens Encyclopedia of Cooking) in approximately 1956 right after we got married. I had joined a book club and these were among my first so many free books. I can remember I chose these as I didn't have any recipe books and thought I might need them. They actually became my "bible" of cooking. Learned how to make everything from Eclairs to stews to cooking a turkey from it.

Then, in approximately 1976, my daughter's friend saw I had a set of these and said her mother had a set exactly like them and she didn't use them at all - she was going to ask her mother if she could give them to me. My set by this time was falling apart and volume II had lost it's spine cover and front board. I have been a little more gentle with this set - they are still in halfway good condition. I didn't realize until recently that they are somewhat collectible! Who knew?

Sep 17, 2009, 10:47pm (top)Message 15: momsib

Just found this whole LibraryThing, and can't stop reading it!

I got my Meta Givens at a yard sale. I didn't even realize there was more than one volume until I picked it up again recently. What in the world could be in the 2nd volume??? The first seems so complete. Anyway, I baked something, can't remember what right now because it's late and I'm dazed, but the reviews of the finished product were great! The book stands the test of time!

Oct 18, 2009, 5:24pm (top)Message 16: CherylKob

Like momsib, I just found this LibraryThing. I was actually searching for info about Meta Given. Found this from another retro cookbook site: Ms. Given grew up on a "Missouri hill farm," learning to cook with the limited foodstuffs available to her. She then studied home economics and became involved in developing and testing recipes, and in writing about nutrition, shopping and kitchen equipment.

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09099/961...

My Mom passed away August 20th, and I was searching through her old copy of the cookbook to give recipes out at her celebration of life. Her copy was loveworn - it didn't have a cover or any identifying pages so I had no idea of the title. I went to oldcoookbooks.com and they searched based on a page I scanned, and found it! Bless Peter and oldcookbooks.com!

I still make her coleslaw (#1) from the book, as well as the baking powder biscuits, the fudge, the spice cake, and countless others. If you can find salt-dried cod, the creamed codfish is to die for!

Oct 21, 2009, 9:29pm (top)Message 17: momsib

Aw!! what a great story! I shall have to try those recipes now. It's hard to find a good coleslaw recipe.

I've been scanning book sales and garage sales to find the second volume. Some day... If i weren't so infernally cheap, i'd do the ebay thing. I keep thinking one will come my way more easily, though, like the first volume did. I think i paid maybe a couple of bucks at most at a garage sale.

Dec 3, 2009, 10:40pm (top)Message 18: sungene

Hey, thanks for posting. If I ever sell my set, I'll be sure to give you a holler! Keep checking those yard sales.

Yesterday, 2:27pm (top)Message 19: wall-o-SF

I have my mother-in-law's old copy of Meta Givens's Modern Encyclopedia of Cooking Complete. She gave them to my husband when he moved away from home. Both volumes were starting to fall apart and I was afraid to lose pages out of them, so we've had them rebound and they work like new now.

We love that the recipes are from a time when people weren't afraid of their food.

Message edited by its author, Yesterday, 2:31pm.

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