Who thinks the world is gonna end in 2012??? I think its a bunch of boloney!!!

I see that your library is strong on puppetry but weak on apocalypse. You might want to try Death from the Skies or Our Final Hour.

2012 is awfully uncertain, but that modern humanity, at least, will end by the end of the century is about an even bet.

Robert

not to b mean but what the heck is a apocalypse???

but thanks for the tip! :)

apocalypse: end of the world revelation.

thank u

By the way, a great online resource for when you need to look up a word is Merriam Webster Online:
www.m-w.com
or www.merriam-webster.com

There's a thesaurus, too.

o tay thanks

i really doubt the world's gonna end any time soon.

like seriously.
what the hell.

_ffrenchy, you might want to try Death from the Skies or Our Final Hour.

Robert

I don't know, collections are immanent.

The end of the world can be a very subjective thing. Even in Tarot, the death card is not indicative of actual death, but of change. If the pronouncement of death is actually that of change, then I eagerly wait to see what form this change takes. There are both dire and celebratory worthy predictions about 2012. I just hope it's actual ascendance in some form or other if anything happens.

It's a truism, I know, but for the record, Armageddon never comes when you could really use it.

Jill, it is times like that that call for medication.

Robert

um.

yeah okay this is a bit weird.

I dont think it will end

i agree with puppet dude

and seriously "rdurick"
i dont want to try death from the skies or our final hour.

im quite happy believing the world isnt going to end or whatever the hell you're saying.

honestly.
if you WANT to spend your life worrying about things the scientifical people THINK could possibly happen
well fine. let it ruin your life.
but i wont let it ruin mine.
it's ridiculous.

and if the world does end.
well then i should've kept my mouth shut ay
but seriously i really really highly DOUBT the world will end any time soon.

Nope. I think we're stuck with this one.

An in other news 'gullible' is NOT in the dictionary!

#19

REALLY? !-)

* coffee spews *

Maybe not the end of the world, but possibly my keyboard.....

That's okay, WHL. You don't really need a keyboard, given that the new trend is in video. Just get yourself a webcam and a microphone.

17: im a girl! :)

But yea, i dont think its gonna end! it will probley end in like a 3 million years or so. ;)

thankyou puppet dude

You're always best off saying that the world won't end. If it doesn't, then you look smart; if it does, no one's around to say "I told you so!"

LOLOL

The "official" end date is Dec 12, 2012. So, no.

IT WONT END ON THAT DATE! PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT ARE DUMB, (in that subject!)

Don't yell. It's rude.

And calling people names is a bad idea, too.

lol fine...

but i dont thinkk it will end then

agreed.

who agrees with me and puppet dude that the world will NOT end in 2012.??

I need more time to prepare for my presidential run.

presidential run??

#35: timspalding "I need more time to prepare for my presidential run."

I'm surprised that Tim should consider changing to a less important position.

woaaah.

how old are you people..

i feel too young to be here.

#38: _ffrenchy "how old are you people."

Decades, some of us. But what are you seeing as signs of age in the posts on this thread?

Proper use of capitalization and apostrophes?

Oh, darn. I knew that would give me away!

There are lots of websites about predictions of the end of the world, I like this one. Its section on 2012 is here. So far, all the predicted end dates have passed safely. I'm with those here who expect 2012 not to see the world end.

The world is not going to end in 2012!

Thank u people who say it WONT end in 2012!

ffrenchy, IM A GIRL, not a dude

All of this 2012 b.s. is based on a misinterpretation of the Maya calendar. Just check in with any professional anthropologist and see if they belive it will end.

It might make for an amusing movie:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_(film)

Just check your brain at the door!

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do u think it will end in 2012, cpizotti?

Unequivocally I do not believe it will end, nor does the Maya calendar even indicate it. There is a great literature on the need for some people to believe in end times but 2012 is of no more concern than any other year. Take a look at A.D. 999, for another example of this belief.

Message edited by its author, Feb 7, 2009, 3:42pm.

Right. We all know it's really going to end on January 19, 2038 (at 3:14:07 am).

ok... how do u no that???

Because that's when the count of seconds since the beginning of time turns into -1. We will all recede into the past.

>48
That'll be my 61st birthday. Or, I guess it will be my 1st.

woooow, hee hee awesome

>51:
Or your -1st :)

sorry puppet person.

:(

how am i meant to know.
well..
wow you're a girl. cooool

LOL

the world will NOT end in 2012 people
people saying it will are freaking crazy,
honestly.

What is your evidence that the world will not end in 2012?

Robert

What is your evidence that the world will not end in 2012?

Way to shift the burden of proof, man!

Exactly!

Robert

I think we can solve this one with Okham's razor. It's just simpler if the world ends in 2012.

#58: Hear, hear!

nah, i kinda wanna live!

fine whatever

but i honestly believe this is ridiculous.

they've said this kind of thing before.
and has it happened yet/
NO!

so i don't see why stupid people are going around stressing out about it.

You're name-calling again. An easy habit to get into. I don't see why people are stressing out about it either, but they're not stupid. They just don't think the same way I do.

I think parsimony might not be decisive here, but probability might help us. My understanding of probability is that it is the ratio of two counts expressed as a decimal. It is also my understanding that experts can find different ways of counting.

If we accept Martin Rees's estimate that the probability of our surviving the century is .5 and we know that the century has about 90 years left in it, then the probability of our end's being in 2012 is about .0056. (God, I hope I did that right.)

Robert

PS I, for one, am not stressing out over it. I find apocalyptic thinking entertaining.

R

Message edited by its author, Feb 9, 2009, 7:44pm.

I have largely stopped thinking about the Apocalypse and any coming end. I'm pretty sure I would be expected to continue working.

Only if you assume the Martin Rees meant that probability is constant for the next 90 years, which isn't really a fair assumption.

I can see that the probability might fluctuate, but I would think not greatly. Certainly we are more likely to be turned into a strangelet when the linear collider is colliding heavy nuclei than when it is not, all other things being equal. But these fluctuations are random like, and there are alternative means of wiping out humankind that should help iron out the probability.

So am I missing something?

Robert

Leaving aside the universal belief among Maya historians that this is modern idiocy, I'd still only decide than the world was going to end if I bought into the Mayan religious system generally. As it is, my belief in the end-points of Mayan cosmology is about on par with my belief in the cosmological efficacy of human sacrifice.

whaaaaaaaaaat?!

don't talk big.
i have a very low brain function.
i don't understand what you're saying
make it easier for me by telling me.
DO YOU AGREE THE WORLD WILL NOT END IN 2012?
or are you one of the silly people that believe it will?

(puts down still-beating heart of war captive to type...)

Yes, absolutely.

Somewhere along about message 66 or so, it occurred to me that there was no way the OP would understand this.

ffrenchy: Read very carefully. Tim says that Mayan historians don't believe it ("modern idiocy"), and even if they did believe it, he doesn't believe in Mayan predictions any more than he believes that human sacrifice works.

Don't just assume big words are too hard for you. A little re-reading and a little thought, and you'll get it.

Tim: extensive paraphrasing. Hope you don't mind. I'm an incurable teacher, even if I am retired.

When I was that kid's age, I had a not-unfounded fear that the world would end in a giant nuclear exchange. Some idiots say that the Mayans say the world is going to end in 2012? I can hack that.

uhh yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
i still have no idea what you're talking about.

and when you were what kid's age?

Let's get together to finance messages on buses: The world will probably not end in 2012. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.

Message edited by its author, Feb 10, 2009, 6:44am.

#68/72: Not to beat a dead horse, kiddo, but how many words could there possibly be in his statement that are too big for you? (One assumes that if you're on this site, you're at least 13.) "Cosmology"? "Efficacy"? It shouldn't take much time to look those up in an online dictionary.

61 and 63: I AGREE. i dont think it will end. I want to live until im like 80, and thats a long ways away!

What makes you think the world hasn't already ended...
I believe it end on about June 30, 1521.

76 > that was last time, we are worrying about THIS time, is it going to end again?

um... its 2009...

1521 was about... i dont know...

maybe... like 400 years ago?!

488 actually

#79: Pulled out your abacus and figured that one out, did you?

doh! that would have been so much easier!

Still using pen and pencil, myself, but of course, I always forget to "carry the one". (Do they still teach that practice in elementary school arithmetic? Or do they call it something different?)

So I think the date for when the world ends depends upon your culture. Mayan culture - the world has already ended. American culture - based on current events, I could make a case that we are quivering on the brink. 8>)

I give up. Okay regarding the armchair interpreters of the maya calendar that completely got it wrong, wrong, wrong (did I mention that they are wrong?).

Actually, they are right. up is down and black is white. So sometime in 2010 you can stop paying your mortgages, blow up your car, shoot your TV and live in a hole in the ground!

Or wait in Area 51 or at Devils Tower Wyoming for the real Maya, THE ALIENS!!! OMG here they come!

I would rather wait on my back porch with my cat, a huge cryogenic tank full of strawberry malts, and bushel sacks of Pounce cat treats. Conflagration come get me.

Robert

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#85: Once again, kiddo, you're not going to get along well in life acting like that. I hope that the next time you find yourself reading something you find difficult, you'll step up to the plate and work hard at it. The best way to improve reading comprehension skills is to read difficult passages with your brain fully engaged and a dictionary at your fingertips. You are hanging out on a site for book lovers, and you should not be surprised when adults encourage you to read, read, read, then read some more.

Be it known as well that no one here believes that the world is going to end because of the Mayan prophecy. The adults are kidding around in here.

Here are the summary points you can use to stop this silly belief:

The Maya calendar does not end in 2012.

It resets and a new Maya calendar cycle begins.

Thus, the world does not end either.

Thats the simple explanation to people who are concerned about the end of the world in 2012.

Even the millions of Maya that live in Central America today do not believe that the world ends in 2012.

Does this hopefully/ perhaps close this whole thing out?

Thx

thank u.

wow ffrenchy....

ok we dont need to comment on this stuff anymore.

sorry but its really quite rude of that person to keep saying such stuff'

seriously dont talk to me medellia12

i dont want to hear what you have to say about me

if you leave me alone then i wont start swearing and stuff anymore.

i apologise to everyone else about my language.

thank u. its ok. we all have our days. but B nice missy/mister! :P

im a chick
LOL

>89 The thing is, ffrenchy, if you keep directing your "swearing and stuff" at another person (for example, towards Medellia12), you'll just get yourself kicked off LibraryThing for violating the terms of service.

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ffrenchy: I've tried to treat you like a reasonable almost adult, who needs some encouragement. But I just went back and read Medellia12's post, and she didn't call you dumb - she didn't call you anything. She was being a little sarcastic, but nothing that deserved a profane rant.

I'm sorry you felt picked on.

>94, In fact, the posts were closer to 'you're not dumb, you can figure this out, so don't take the easy route and pretend it is just over your head.'

Now that the dust has settled, I'm also sorry that you felt picked on, and MerryMary is right: I never intended to call you dumb. (That you didn't understand the conversations here does not mean that you're dumb! I really did just mean to encourage you to work hard at reading skills, because I'm enthusiastic about reading--but I'm sure you'll continue to become a good reader as you get older and learn more.) I'm sorry that my wording was not clear, and I wish you all good things.

#95: Yeah, what you said. :)

Maybe I have more faith in you than you have in yourself. :-)

well..

im not the brightest
in the future it would be nice if you could help me out by answering my questions
and then i wont get angry and swear.

100 > Only you can decide how you will react to other people, don't blame your behavior on others.

So, I googled June 30, 1521. Things happened then but nothing like the end of the world, at least for my ancestors.

What am I missing? Anything?

Robert

Nope. Nothing to see here. Move along.

GOSH. People calm down! Isn't this thread for fun? People, Krya aka _ffrenchy is prone to swear when aggrivated (not sure if she was but - meh) so treat her lightly. Also, she is a champion sulker :) Love you, Kyra ...

see 101

iloveyooou too narlene ;)

x

well im sorry for my behavious it was unacceptable rah rah

its over with now.

i apologise medellia12

Thanks, and I apologize, too, and we're all squared away now. :)

Hiya,

No way. not 2012. People said long ago the world was going to end for example: 1972 and what happened? Nothing. So chances are it won't end in 2012. Probably not for ages yet!!

Jen
x

Probably is the key word.

Robert

#109

But, to clarify for the less scientifically inclined, "probably not" in this case means that an extremely small chance of it happening cannot be absolutely ruled out.

i think we all know what "proably not" means.

but yeah i agree with message #108

Re: the 2012 stuff, amusing book review from NYT:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/06/books/...

I don't think we will last that long!

What's going to nail us in the next three years?

Robert

The Large Hadron Collider ?

THE WORLD'S NOT GOING TO END!!

geeees

ever?

#115: In case you want to keep abreast of those developments, see here:
Has the large hadron collider destroyed the world yet dot com

Message edited by its author, Feb 19, 2009, 11:45pm.

easy, ffrenchy. Some kidding, some speculating, some curiosity. Nothing really serious. And if some of them are serious, it's nothing for you to worry about. Just let them go on with their way. I'm as positive as I can be that there will be a world for you to grow up into.

And that world will be the planet Umlait-alpha-phi, after benevolent aliens from Andromeda rescue the best and brightest humans from the immanent destruction of the earth (12 August 2011), and whisk them away to found a new utopia. Where everybody lives in peace and harmony, no-one ever runs out of juice boxes, and all cats are lol-cats.

#120: Well, at least it won't be the Mysterons come to destroy the earth....

please see Post 87

122 > Why? You seem to be taking this thread way to seriously.

We could possibly move the earth to forestall it, but it is likely that in a billion years the sun will have heated up enough to parch the earth. That is the earth will be lifeless.

About four billion years after that the sun will swell and probably consume the earth.

Thirty trillion years from now (and my memory is sloppy here) much of the universe will have evaporated so to speak. Our immortality will have to be vested in something else.

Robert

I don't even like moving house. Don't call me when it comes time to move the earth.

We'll hire someone else to do it, if we get around to it.

Robert

The world WILL end one day. Guess what? The sun is already half burned out so if we were depending on the sun, we have billions of years left. I was terrified to learn that the sun wasn't going to be around forever. I'm not the same person I was before that fateful Geography lesson ... o_0"

LOLOL

#119:
i just dont understand why everyone's freaking out about this.
i mean seriously.
why waste your life worrying about these things
they've said it before, and has it happened?
NO!!!

i seriously just think everyone should chill out.
i doubt the world's ending any time soon.

Anyway, i'll be gone before then, thanks to the Rapture. So long, suckers!

Kyra, how could you laugh at the turning-point in my life (were you?) :D

And yeah, I agree with you. We ain't hippies burning incense and reading fortunes in the smelly smoke (if you are, that's great, have a nice smoke-reading session) so just take a deep breath, exhale, breath in, exhale, breath in, exhale, breath in, exhale and soon, if you keep breathing in and exhaling, you'll forget all about this! Hey, what am I talking about?

Message edited by its author, Feb 23, 2009, 2:07am.

#130: xcullenpridex

Have you hear of the girl who went to hear a lecture on astronomy and the speaker said "In five billion years changes in the sun will make the Earth uninhabitable", and she jumped up and shouted "What, so soon, OMG that's terrible!". So the speaker said "Five billion years is a long time" and she said "Five billion? That's a relief, I thought you said million."

104: Yea, itsent this supposed to be for fun??

IT WONT END. :)

*blunt and smiple. thats how i keep things :P*

The Apocalypse is almost here. I just added the Magnusson/Pálsson translation of Njal's Saga to my catalogue. It now has 666 members and 6 reviews.

131: What? I don't get it ..

>#134: The joke is in the fact that it doesn't matter if the world is going to end in 5 billion years or 5 milliion years - they are both so far away away as to make no difference to anyone alive today. It's funny that someone would get all excited over the world ending in 5 million years.

Now, 3 years on the other hand...

I dont think it will end. I heard it was just the Myan (spell ?) calender ends.

FIRE AND ICE
Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice.

Robert Frost

I'm with Frost for Fire.

Message edited by its author, Feb 24, 2009, 5:05pm.

im agree with frost. People, i dont think it will end!! They ALSO said it would end in the new millenium. And did it? Nope!

They ALSO said it would end in the new millenium

"They"? I think you make a mistake by grouping unrelated speculators together.

Simply because some people were wrong at one time doesn't do anything to prove that completely different people are wrong about a different statement.

Wait, you can't agree with Frost and say you don't think the world is going to end...

Everything ends it is just a matter of when.

But more importantly,

What will The World Without Us be like? ;)

Simply because some people were wrong at one time doesn't do anything to prove that completely different people are wrong about a different statement.

Riiiiight... wait. What?

Does it not do anything to disprove that completely different people are not right about the same statement? Or doesn't it?

Not, I think, but if you rephrased your question I might change my mind.

Robert

"they" refur to people i know

will not end

>120
And all the buildings are made out of white plastic in a kind of Le Corbusier style, everyone wears one-piece monochromatic jumpsuits, and we all eat one little pill per week to get all the nutrition we need.

The world did in fact end in 1521. Since then, we've all been confined to sensory isolation tanks by malign AIs, who are feeding us a computer-generated stream of fictional sense data designed to keep us ignorant and pliant. They're using us as kind of living Enegizer batteries for their plan to KEEP US ALL IN THE MATRIX FOREVER!!!!!!

The battery explanation always seemed lame to me. The Neil Gaiman story—the one that takes place in the Matrix world—has it better. They want our cheap processing power.

I think they are harvesting our sweat, as a cheap (but distasteful) source of salt.

How does one go about submitting a request to our AI overlords? I'd like some tweaks to the programming.

Collections.

LOL!!!

Collections please! And quit harvesting our precious bodily fluids!

>146
Tim, of course the battery explanation is lame. It is absurdly inefficient to add unnecessary steps in the energy acquisition process because (per the laws of thermogoddamits) energy is lost at each step along the way. What they'd actually do, preumably, is to get it directly from the sun. (/seriousness)

145 and > : Were all joking right?

Sorry, im gullbile :)

They were all joking.

Except the sweat harvesting part. I'm sure that's happening. Ever heard of "sweatshops"?

Battery - Ha! See that big shine thing in the sky!
Cheap CPU foo! See the sand on the beach!
Salt - guaff Look out past the beach at the nice salty water!

SOLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!! IT'S PEOPLE!!!

sure its not frogs?

(Sorry, still gullbile :))

It is better to be gullible than gobbl'd up...

P.S. How soon can we get plastic Le Corbusier style, one-piece monochromatic jumpsuits? Does GAP or Old Navy carry those?

Message edited by its author, Mar 2, 2009, 2:54pm.

yea

Yeah, but the Old Navy ones don't hold up well...just like the rest of their stuff.

>153
Lol!

AND THE PLANET OF THE APES IS EARTH! IT'S EARTH!

Message edited by its author, Mar 2, 2009, 5:27pm.

You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, darn you! Gosh darn you all to heck!

MADAGASCAR, baby!

Yea, MrA killed me in Hogwarts Express with his piano!

No, it was Professor Plum, in the Library, with a Candlestick. Dum dum daaaah!

lol great singing.

SPEAKING of singing, whos watching American Idol?

*note to self: put on HE!!*

Very entertaining post...

Whether the world as we know it already ended back in the 14th century or will end in few years, or never... can anyone point me to any books on said subject, without any scientific mumbo-jumbo? More so along the lines of Revelations?

Thank you in advance!

Um... i dont know... he ehee heard from friends!

I bought that book yesterday, Mr. Andrew; you're responsible.

Robert

I predicted that would happen.

:))

There are almost twelve thousand of us Good Omens owners on LibraryThing. Maybe we can have a party in 2012.

By the way, that is the year of my fiftieth high school reunion. So it really is ominous.

Robert

people, i dont think it will end.

Are we even sure that it's started yet? Maybe this is all just a rehearsal.

Puppetmaster,

Have you ever tried to get in shape for your 50th high school reunion?

Robert

Message edited by its author, Mar 5, 2009, 11:09pm.

>172

That sure would explain a lot!

No, why?

It is possible that to some of us it seems like the end of the world.

Robert

"it's the end of the world as we know it
and I feel fine!"

*sigh

can i ask yous all a question.

why are you wasting you time worrying about the world ending?
what if it doesnt end.
and yous have all made a big deal of it all this time.
what if it does.
and you've also wasted the last 3 years of your life on worrying about it happening.

if you seriously think its gonna end, go out and have fun, live life on the edge bcuz you think the world will end soon anyway.

if you dont think its not gonna end.
then continue on with your life and have fun.

and for people who dont know what to believe or dont want to hear it.
then ignore what people are saying.

I am living life on the edge! Look at me! I'm typing a post on a library cataloguing site! I'm a party animal!

Woooo-hoooooo!

Yea, REALLLL party animal! :)

>179
You're gonna die young unless you change your crazy ways!

Spousal Unit says if the world's gonna end when the Mayan calendar ends, we can also expect the car to melt into a puddle when the odometer rolls over to all zeros.

Live hard, drive fast.

WOOOOOOOOW

So the point is, if you drive a lot the world will end sooner. Hmmm, sounds like I'm channelling an enviromentalist.

#182: PhaedraB "Spousal Unit says if the world's gonna end when the Mayan calendar ends, we can also expect the car to melt into a puddle when the odometer rolls over to all zeros."

That is very perceptive of Spousal Unit, and I find it surprising in view of your (joint?) book Real Energy. I am happy to say that LT's new "Would you like it" feature rates it even lower for me than Cunt Coloring Book, which I use as a standard for books which I definitely will not buy.

(Edited because of defective touchstones - seem OK in post, don't work when posted.)

Message edited by its author, Mar 8, 2009, 6:21pm.

>182

And yet our libraries share 50 books. Go figger.

#185

you said a bad word.
when you said c*** coloring book,
whethere you were meant to say that,
or it was just a spelling mistake.
i think you should get rid of that word.

186: PhaedraB "And yet our libraries share 50 books. Go figger."
There are some things we apparently strongly disagree about, but there's lots of stuff we are both happy with.

#187: _ffrenchy "you said a bad word."
I don't usually use bad words much, but that really is the name of a book which some users of LT like very much, but which I'm not going to buy.

:|

well i dont like that word.

but anyway thanyou for explaining.
:)

I own that book just because once I saw the title I couldn't not own it. Is that a sign of the apocalypse?

Robert

That word is a disgusting word :)

Books with naughty words in their titles are probably a sign of the End Times.

Products and news about 2012 are available at 2012 News.

Robert

thats ok...

they kept saying it would end in 2000, 2002, 2005... anymore?

Remember, if the end is sufficiently catastrophic, there will be nobody to report that it has occured. Relying on witnesses may take some fallacious thinking.

Robert

Message edited by its author, Mar 14, 2009, 6:23pm.

But it did end in 2002. The 2005 thing was totally bogus, though.

I've done some research and it turns out that only 34% of end-of-the-world predictions have come true. So we have pretty good odds this time.

>#193: funny stuff!

Rdurick: Please don't be offended, but why do you always end posts with your name? :)

197> Because I am old and learned to sign my notes and letters and to identify myself on the telephone. rdurick is not my name, it is a log in and unique identifier.

I have a question that you cannot answer alone, but you could contribute to the answer. Why is it that people are chary about offending when they are doing something innocent, like here? And why when people are gratuitously boorish do they not apologize?

Robert

#198: rdurick "And why when people are gratuitously boorish do they not apologize?"

Isn't that obvious? It's just as easy to ameliorate the boorishness as to apologise for it, or, to put it another way, boorishness is incompatible with apology.

(No signature as my log-in id speaks for itself.)

Can you be un-gratuitously boorish?

(no signature as i'm incognito)

198: Hmm, well, I guess that when people are polite and may be asking a question that may be rude, they don't want to offend you. But I guess that when people are rude, they mean it, so they don't apologize because that just defeats the purpose of being rude in the first place.

Nicky
(And yes, I am a girl)
:)

Message edited by its author, Mar 18, 2009, 5:13am.

well-put, Nicky.

201 > I slightly disagree.

Many people are unintentionally rude because they are clueless as to how their words/behavior affect other people. Other people just don't care how their words/behavior impact others. That is self-centered, selfish behavior, and one form of intentional rudeness. Then there are the people who just want to flat-out offend someone, which is flat-out intentional rudeness.

You might get an apology from the first group, but less likely from the other two. Not impossible -- even the most intentional boor might experience remorse. It could happen.

202: Haha :) Thanks :)

203: I could agree to that too. Though, usually, when people are untentionally rude, they do apologize in the end. So if we assume that, it's pretty much like how I explained. I know that if I'm unintentionally rude, I apologize profusely and don't rest until I've been apologizing for at least five minutes - it varies with how rude I was. And I seem to have a malfunctioning brain - I blurt out whatever's on my mind without a moment's hesistation but, Thank God, usually it's pretty mild and funny but sometimes it's a bit rude.

And I'm 14 so that could explain alot. Older people tend to be more well-mannered than us youngins :)

Message edited by its author, Mar 19, 2009, 3:45am.

Not in my experience.

> 204

Older people just have better impulse control.

Youth is one handicap everyone is guaranteed to outgrow.

We grow too soon old and too late smart.

205: What do you mean? :)

206: That is true :(

I meant that i know plenty of badly-mannered older people. And they don't have the excuse of rampant hormones, elevated energy levels or lack of experience.

So.....

Are bad manner, poor impulse control, unintentionally rudeness, and gratuitous boorishness a signs of Slouching towards Bethlehem?

(Ha take that for literary references requiring Google! My gratuitous boorishness is intended)

Wait I feel bad about that, I'm sorry for that. I'll do better next time.

misericordia

PS Ha take that for Latin reference requiring Google! My gratuitous boorishness is intended

PSS Damn I did it again...

#209
LOL

Hi xcullenpridex and Kyra,
Sorry that i wasn't at school today, I was feeling really sick.

Anyway, I agree with Ffrenchy, I think that if the world was going to end soon I would want to live life and have the time of my life.

xcullenpridex: I thought Leah was on libraything, but can't find her. Is she on librarything?

A few months ago a fellow at church who knows that I am a recreational apocalyptician suggested that I google "carter catastrophe." I finally did. The mathematics of the probability of doomsday have engaged some solid thinkers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_ar...

Robert

The argument, if valid, would apply to any point in time. Therefore, we're always "probably halfway through the human race's lifetime."

In other words, the argument implies:

Five thousand years ago we were "probably halfway through the human race's lifetime."

Right now we're "probably halfway through the human race's lifetime."

Five thousand years from now we'll be "probably halfway through the human race's lifetime."

This doesn't make any sense.

You're not alone in raising an argument like that and may be right. I've had only one course in probability and abandoned my Bayesian statistics text when it required me to buy software and keep up with a web site. It does look, however, like there are fairly good arguments opposed.

For example: the argument will be wrong for everybody in the first five, say, percent of human beings, but right for all the rest.

Robert

Huh? No, it wouldn't be right for, e.g., the group in the sixth percent from the beginning.

BTW, I've had Bayesian stat a little too (not a lot) but I don't even feel a need for such apparatus to address this particular Doomsday Argument. Frankly, I find Berserkers more worrisome.

211: Ha, I'm replying to your post now. Well, Leah is XTeamEdwardxX if you haven't seen her yet :)

wait a second... MrA, how HAS the world end multiply time??? That i dont get!!

This link is courtesy of the Happy Heathens:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7h08RDYA...

The earth will end when God wills it to end, according to authority.

Robert

^ Maybe for Christians. But I'm half Asian and Buddhist. One day, the world will end, but not now. Everything has to die, everything has to end but I don't think the world's going anyway just now :)

hi.
:)

hi!

hi?

high. On life.

Greetings.

Take me to your leader.

If you don't, I'll vaporize your planet some time around the year 2012.

Oh, no. Please tell me ffrenchy is out of school for the summer!

So long, and thanks for all the fish.

Im confused :L)

I had such a hard time getting ffrenchy calm when this thread was active. I don't want to start it all up, and get her scared again.

MrAndrew is making a joke about saying good bye at the end of the world. The quote he entered is from a book in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy series.

plus i really liked the fish.

MM, can you follow me around explaining me? I could really use that service :)

*giggle* No offense, I hope.

These guys get confused easily, and I feel sorry for them. Besides, maybe it's time one of them read some Douglas Adams. (Or would that confuse them beyond redemption?)

no offense - of course not!

However, i believe that being confused is an important life lesson. I like to think that my little seeds of confusion are helping to prepare young minds for their future. It's like a public service.

You're absolutely right. I will suppress my urge to leap in and teach. (I am retired.)

Let them express their confusion in increasingly articulate ways, and then elucidate. Or maybe not! (heh, heh)

what does "elucidate" mean? I'm confused.

*whistles and looks at the ceiling*

-------------------???(When)???------------------
No one really knows.

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MM, is there a piano coming down?! *puts hands above head*

(MrA you know what im talking about :))

what? Is MrA a toon?

I'm holding out for 2016. Worked it out backwards from the Bible using B/C & A/D and the begats.
But......no one "knows" the time nor the hour.

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#240: catzmaw "no one "knows" the time nor the hour."

Well, you can't expect prophets to understand time zones. But not knowing the time nor the hour doesn't stop you getting within a day of the event.

#111(or _ffrenchy):

Thanks for agreeing with me.

Jen
x

One day, somebody's going to get it right.

Robert

But they won't be able to luxuriate in the self-righteous glow of being proved right. Except for possibly in the afterlife.

What and When is exactly a final destruction of Planet Earth?

?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ( No one will be alive to tell what really happened.)

This is why space travel is important. That way whoever gets it right has a chance of being off-planet, so they can watch the fireworks and enjoy the knowledge that they made the right call.

246: You mean Variable Star?

No, Iron Sunrise.

Next destination, colonise Mars.

alright can we get this straight little miss merrymary
stop talking about me like im the worst thing since vegetables okay

Where did that come from?

Robert

I took pity on her when no one else would take her seriously about her fear of the end of the world. Then when it all seemed settled, the subject came up again, and I made a mild joke. Apparently I am now lower than pond scum.

#252 - it's genuinely not worth the risk to make even the mildest joke around ffrenchy - that person has had a major humour bypass operation. And the rest of us think you're a fine person, MerryMary!

I find most vegetables to be quite tasty. And they're often packed with useful nutrients. Overall a darned fine invention, I think.

#254: Medellia "I find most vegetables to be quite tasty."

That's somewhat age dependent though. Vegetables are mostly rather bitter and children are more sensitive to that and don't like it, which is quite reasonable really, because the veggies are trying to poison us so that we won't eat them, and a young liver doesn't detoxify so efficiently as an adult one.

#255: Ok, that's going on the wishlist right now.

#256: You're right, I didn't learn to like vegetables until I was 18 and decided to start giving them a try. (What a rebel I was when I went off to college!) How quickly we forget our younger years.

ahh actually merrymary

i was the one that WASNT scared of the world ending
i dont get why people aactually believe this kind of stuff
and fyi i have a good sense of humour
i laugh at almost anything
but not when it's something that really annoys me

you may think its all a joke
but i dont

No/I don't think so but the way we humans are abusing it who knows- the economy is crashing faster than the world will end- but once the economy crashes a lot of people will wish the world would end-