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1laena
Feb 23, 2009, 11:56am Top

Includes works of satire, books of jokes, books written by comedians, limericks & verse. Also includes humorous books on specific topics, such as relationships, work, and politics.

2tardis
Feb 23, 2009, 12:42pm Top

I still think Humour ought to be a subdivision under topics. A funny book about pets should go under Pets-Humour.

3jjwilson61
Feb 23, 2009, 1:43pm Top

Isn't Gulliver's Travels satire? I think most people would expect to find it under Fiction.

4Alixtii
Feb 23, 2009, 7:57pm Top

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I'm trying to think of any humorous satire, and failing. Even A Modest Proposal isn't all that funny, and 1984 is downright depressing.

5mattsya
Feb 24, 2009, 4:08pm Top

Gulliver's Travels is a novel that is satirical. It goes under fiction, obviously. I am America and So Can You is the kind that goes here. As always, common sense trumps.

6comfypants
Feb 24, 2009, 4:40pm Top

Hooray for common sense!

7Alixtii
Feb 25, 2009, 2:02am Top

But I am America and So Can You would go under humor anyway as a "humorous book about politics," so the value of singling out "satire" as a type of humor still seems suspect. Maybe it should specify "humorous satire" as it does with "books on specific topics, such as relationships, work, and politics"?

As it is, satire is no more a subtype of humor than "books on relationships" is.

8Alixtii
Edited: Feb 26, 2009, 6:01am Top

I have no clue how to subdivide this.

x. Books of Jokes
x. Books of Funny Poetry
x. Funny Fiction
x. humorous books on specific topics
x. relationships
x. work
x. politics
x. Meta-Humor

That's . . . really not a useful division. Anyone with any better ideas?

9abbottthomas
Feb 26, 2009, 7:26am Top

I'd leave funny poetry with poetry, myself.

Parody is a reasonably big sub-group.

Joke books - certainly.

Cartoons?

What would you do with writers like Thurber, Leacock, Runyon, Perelman, Woody Allen? Fiction? -Often. Anecdote? - Frequently. Fantasy? - Sometimes.

10comfypants
Feb 26, 2009, 1:23pm Top

I'd put funny poetry in poetry as well. And funny fiction in fiction.

There's probably a better name for "Meta-Humor." (Sorry, I can't think of one at the moment.)

What about books that aren't on a specific topic and aren't jokes, like Brain Droppings?

11Alixtii
Mar 2, 2009, 5:17pm Top

I guess we can add a "Funny Non-Fiction" category. Or "Funny Essays"?

If we put "Funny X" in X, then what do we have left for this category. We can't have a top-level category consisting solely of joke books, can we?

12jjwilson61
Mar 2, 2009, 6:00pm Top

They do at Barnes & Nobles, which seems to be the model.

13conners
Mar 20, 2009, 10:51am Top

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14droogmark
Mar 20, 2009, 5:56pm Top

I feel like anything that can reasonably go under another category (like the Gulliver's Travels example), should, but I think that this is still useful for materials which are purely humorous in nature. Hence, Dave Barry's book on travel should be here rather than in the Travel section, as should joke books, etc. Certainly, it seems pretty strange when books like Steven Colbert's end up classified as "essays" in DDC.

I agree with the comment that humorous poetry, including limericks, should be in poetry. This category should be reserved for books that can't otherwise be classified.

15kristenn
Mar 22, 2009, 2:09pm Top

Would something like this still qualify for the poetry category rather than humor?

http://www.librarything.com/work/368643/book/839402

16abbottthomas
Edited: Mar 22, 2009, 2:24pm Top

>15 kristenn: Short answer from me is "Yes". But this -

http://www.librarything.com/work/937976/book/15093310

which has parodies of prose, plays and poetry, would have to go in Humour >> Parody. I think this is one of those things that is not worth even a minor squabble, but to me, comic verse is a category of poetry first.

17mattsya
Mar 22, 2009, 3:59pm Top

>15 kristenn: I would put that book with poetry. From what I can tell from its Amazon page, it is an anthology of poems side by side with parodies of those poems. It is essentially an anthology of poetry and literary criticism, with the parodies serving the function of critical essays.

>16 abbottthomas: From just the librarything page, there's not enough to decide exactly where it would best fit. It looks like it might be an anthology of humorous writing--essays, poems, etc. If that is the case, I think it would best fit here in humor.

The humor category could end up a sort of junk-drawer of otherwise unclassifiable books--everything from a collection of New Yorker cartoons, to books like Milton Berle's Private Joke File, to random things like Stuff on My Cat.

I would also assume this would be the place for critical works about humor. Yes?

18abbottthomas
Mar 22, 2009, 7:47pm Top

>17 mattsya: I would also assume this would be the place for critical works about humor. Yes?

I wonder - wouldn't that live with other Lit. crit. wherever that is going?

I fear you may be right about the 'junk drawer'.

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