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1timspalding
Edited: May 11, 2009, 1:45am Top

Member lists are back on author pages.

1. The "feature" was trivial. The trick was implementing it as fast and frequently updating as possible. As it is now, if an author has fewer than 1,000 members, it updates every time. If not, it updates daily at most. If the author's work list changes, it updates. At worst it adds about five seconds to J. K. Rowling--one user per day gets stuck with that, and my apologies to him or her!

2. It counts distinct works. I'd rather do books, so that member who has 100 different editions of The Night Before Christmas got noticed. But it surfaces bad data as often as good—people who re-uploaded without replacing, etc.

3. The list now has a link to see the books in the users catalog. It may confuse slightly in that the number represents works, but the catalog always works by books—and so may show more.

4. There's a lot I can do now that I have a solid members-for-author data. What else do those people have? What Zombie books do they read, etc. Ideas welcome.

UPDATE: See also message #33—adding a feature for LibraryThing Authors.

2carport
May 9, 2009, 3:41am Top

Yay! Thank you.

Off to play with it, then maybe some requests.

3vaneska
May 9, 2009, 3:58am Top

Very minor point: where an author has no books listed there's an error message coming up on the members part of the page, e.g. http://www.librarything.com/author/taruschiofranco

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4timspalding
May 9, 2009, 4:01am Top

Thanks. Got it.

5bookel
May 9, 2009, 4:07am Top

Cool, thanks for returning this feature! Can I confirm what the numbers mean? eg. at the top of one of my author pages it says I have 70 books by that author. Members (works) says 59 -- does this mean it only lists distinct works, not including duplicates? In my catalogue it actually says 71 (which includes any duplicates).

6timspalding
May 9, 2009, 4:10am Top

Shoot me the author and I'll figure out the 70/71 issue.

7bookel
May 9, 2009, 4:16am Top

70 (incorrect) on author page at top; 71 in catalogue (correct); 59 distinct works (is correct).
http://www.librarything.com/author/halllynn

8messpots
May 9, 2009, 4:21am Top

Love it. I'm top dog for John Buchan again, and everyone knows it.

9Collectorator
May 9, 2009, 5:08am Top

You know I love this feature! I've never seen it before. It is really a good one. :)

10bookel
Edited: May 9, 2009, 5:13am Top

9 - It existed last year but was taken off until now. It is one of my favourite features too. :)

Oh, and I like its position on the page, higher up than it was before, yay!

11Collectorator
May 9, 2009, 5:21am Top

8, I own Nelson Doubleday. :D

12SqueakyChu
May 9, 2009, 10:23am Top

This is a very good feature for me. I'm going to use it to back-track to the inventories of LT members on BookMooch, where I otherwise have a hard time finding books I want to mooch. Thanks, Tim!

13MarthaJeanne
May 9, 2009, 12:00pm Top

Thank you, Tim. Thankyou, thank you, thank you!

14MMcM
May 9, 2009, 12:28pm Top

Can you afford to personalize it by calling out similar / interesting libraries?

15timspalding
May 9, 2009, 2:18pm Top

>Can you afford to personalize it by calling out similar / interesting libraries?

What do you mean, exactly?

16staffordcastle
May 9, 2009, 2:40pm Top

Hooray!! Thanks, Tim!

17MMcM
Edited: May 9, 2009, 2:53pm Top

> 15 The Members section of a work's page has entries for Your interesting libraries and Your top 50 similar libraries. I don't know that separate such lists are needed, but wondered if perhaps those entries could be highlighted (text color, font size, inline icon, ?) in the newly restored list sorted by holdings. The use case is to quickly discover which have any works and what ones, particularly when the author has a reasonable number of works (say a dozen) and there are a reasonable number of members (say a hundred -- less for either and it's not so necessary; more and you're ahead of the long tail, so matching isn't as reliable).

18HeathMochaFrost
May 9, 2009, 3:00pm Top

8, 11 - I'm in the lead for Susan Fromberg Schaeffer by SEVERAL books! *sighs* I've missed this feature, too. THANKS, TIM! :-)

19timspalding
May 9, 2009, 3:34pm Top

>17 MMcM:

Oh, right. Good point. I'm worried that I can't hold ALL Rowling members in memory at the same time easily. Hmmm.

20vaneska
May 9, 2009, 4:42pm Top

Image of Tim singlehandedly juggling Rowling members in the air.....

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21messpots
May 9, 2009, 5:26pm Top

>20 vaneska:
Yeah, he should trim those fingernails first.

22timspalding
Edited: May 9, 2009, 5:49pm Top

I'd changed it again, this time to add the same categories as on the work page—your friends, legacy libraries, etc. It doesn't include your 50-most-similars. Above is Voltaire. Adams was a fan. I find it randomly quite interesting.*

The result is a bit mammoth, I think. Too much information?



*Lewis was a bigger fan of Twain than I would have thought. (http://www.librarything.com/author/twainmark)

23staffordcastle
May 9, 2009, 5:47pm Top

Nice!

24jbd1
May 9, 2009, 6:00pm Top

I like it! It's more information, but I don't find it obtrusive at all (those with huge numbers of 'interesting libraries' or 'friends' may disagree with me here).

25rsterling
May 9, 2009, 6:12pm Top

I really like it, especially with the breakdown by friends, legacy, etc.!

26lilithcat
May 9, 2009, 6:23pm Top

~snerk~

Back? I never noticed it was gone! Can we have the option to hide it? In fact, is it possible to have the option to chose what to display on the author pages?

I don't care about ratings, for instance, but that takes up a fair bit of space on the author page, so I'd like to be rid of it. But I know there are other folks who live and breathe ratings. Same for this "members" stuff.

27rsterling
Edited: May 9, 2009, 6:54pm Top

There's a privacy bug here. My library is private, but if another member has me on his/her private watch list, I'm showing up with the number of books I own by that author, under "private watch list." I'm not showing up under "top members," though. I don't know about "friends" or "interesting" libraries; I only looked at it a friend's account (RL friend not "friend" on LT) who has me only on the private watch list.

ETA - I just tested this, and it's also happening when a private member is listed as a friend or interesting library: you can see whether s/he's got books by this author.

28timspalding
May 9, 2009, 7:19pm Top

I'm not seeing this. I've added you to my "interesting libraries." And you are showing up under my interesting libraries now on my profile.

When I go to an author, for example the author whose last name starts "Ar-" and of whom you have 14 books, I do not see you on the member list, either under "Top members (works)," which you'd be under if you were public, or under "Interesting Libraries." Ditto a work page. This makes sense as the "connections list" includes the privacy status, and I'm not sending private users to the function here.

Can you shoot me exact situation that you're getting the problem with?

29SqueakyChu
May 9, 2009, 7:30pm Top

I agree with # 26 re # 22. It's more information than I care to have. Can we hide part of it?

30bookel
May 9, 2009, 9:28pm Top

Tim not sure if you saw this but it is still incorrect.

70 (incorrect) on author page at top; 71 in catalogue (correct); 59 distinct works (is correct).
http://www.librarything.com/author/halllynn

31jjlong
May 9, 2009, 11:06pm Top

Sweet.

32rsterling
May 9, 2009, 11:07pm Top

28 - I'll send you a private comment on it.

33timspalding
May 10, 2009, 2:13am Top

1. I've added a section for LT authors only—not friends or connections, but their readers.



2. To cut down on the bulk I'm going to turn all into just 10 or 15, with a show all. Tomorrow.

34kevmalone
May 10, 2009, 2:29am Top

Goodnight then

35edwinbcn
May 10, 2009, 3:01am Top

Thanks for restoring this extremely useful and interesting (trivial?) feature.

Patience rewarded!

Thanks, thanks, thanks.

36jbd1
May 10, 2009, 10:41am Top

33 - Tim, I'm not sure this is what you intended, but at the moment these LibraryThing Author stats are showing up on all author pages, whether they're LT-Authors or not.

37rsterling
May 10, 2009, 12:11pm Top

36 - I'm not seeing that. Maybe it's there when you're logged on as a legacy library? Do you also see it when you're signed on as yourself? If so, maybe it's because of your association with the legacy project?

38jbd1
May 10, 2009, 12:45pm Top

D'oh. Right. Sometimes I forget I'm not logged in as myself. Bingo. Sorry, disregard #36.

39LolaWalser
May 10, 2009, 2:56pm Top

yay!

40PortiaLong
May 11, 2009, 12:09am Top

Thank you Tim! Back and even better!

41timspalding
May 11, 2009, 12:37am Top

It's more information than I care to have. Can we hide part of it?

I've reduced the default numbers for all the lists, and given them "more" links.

42reading_fox
May 11, 2009, 7:10am Top

To me it would make more sense to have this close to the " you own x books " by phrase.

I'd quite like it at the top where the phrase is at the moment, but wouldn't mind the phrase moving instead of this section.

43Nicole_VanK
May 11, 2009, 9:11am Top

Great, this was my favorite feature and I sorely missed it.

I'd rather do books, so that member who has 100 different editions of The Night Before Christmas got noticed. But it surfaces bad data as often as good—people who re-uploaded without replacing, etc.

Too bad. Yes that would be even better so if it could become possible - sometime in the future - that would be marvelous. But doing happy dance as it is.

44infiniteletters
May 11, 2009, 9:21am Top

43: I agree that a books version would be cool for people who legitimately own a lot of different versions.

45anglemark
May 11, 2009, 9:28am Top

"legitimately"? ;)

46infiniteletters
May 11, 2009, 10:07am Top

45: vs the reupload with dupes version that Tim brought up. ;P

47timspalding
May 11, 2009, 1:11pm Top

>45 anglemark:

We wouldn't want to reward book thieves! :)

48Nicole_VanK
May 11, 2009, 2:03pm Top

Possession is 9/10th of the law --- exorcise your lawyers

49MrsLee
May 11, 2009, 5:01pm Top

Love this feature!

50Donogh
Edited: May 13, 2009, 11:17am Top

Very nice indeed
Although it's now plain to see that I am either Bernard Bachrach's long-lost love-child or the man himself!

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