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1omaca
Edited: Jun 12, 2009, 11:18am Top

For some strange reason I've always enjoyed post-apocalyptic SF. Some notable titles I remember reading include Through Darkest America, Lucifer's Hammer, The Postman (good book, terrible movie!) and even weirder stuff like Hiero's Journey (far future PA) and some strange novel about intelligent spiders and humans hiding in the desert (Anderson? Silverberg? I can't remember).

Anyway, it's been a while since I've read a good PA book. I've tended to stray a bit from SF the past few years, as the older I get the less forgiving I become towards poor plots, bad writing and (most common of all) terribly executed or contrived dialogue. As a result Iain M Banks is verging on the only SciFi I've read in years (with Simmons coming a distant second).

So... perhaps it's time to check out one of my favourite topics again.

Oh, and please don't recommend A Canticle for Liebowitz. I tried reading it as a child, and after failing to get into it have never revisited it. I know it's out there and may pick it up again.

Other recommendations?

2iansales
Jun 12, 2009, 11:18am Top

The Road?

3omaca
Edited: Jun 12, 2009, 11:23am Top

Yes, of course. I forgot to mention it.

What a terribly depressing book. I can't say I actually enjoyed it, and indeed I found several passages downright disturbing, but it's certainly a well executed novel. I could have done without some of the parsimonious prose (and describing looking through binoculars as "glassing" still annoys me), but I still consider it a good book.

Thanks though!

4SarahAbroad
Jun 12, 2009, 11:37am Top

I am loving Anathem, although the apocalypse is not the central issue in the way it is in Canticle for Liebowitz. You might like Dune which is both the story of a society that has (over thousands of years) developed post-apocalyptically as well as focusing in on life on a desert planet (which feels very post-apocalyptic in some ways).

5VinoFonseca
Jun 12, 2009, 12:15pm Top

Kate Wilhelm, Where Late the Sweet Birds Sang
LOVE it. Hugo award.

6MyopicBookworm
Edited: Jun 12, 2009, 12:28pm Top

I'd suggest Riddley Walker by Russell Hoban. Better than A Canticle for Leibowitz and A Clockwork Orange rolled together, once you've got your head around the future dialect that it's written in. But it's pessimistic, so potentially depressing

If you'd like something with a less gloomy outlook and don't mind a book aimed at the YA market, then how about Floodland by Marcus Sedgwick. (It's post-global-warming rather than strictly post-apocalypse, but I'm not fussy about how my civilization collapses.)

7lorax
Jun 12, 2009, 12:43pm Top

I took a look at what cropped up on a tag search for 'post-apocalyptic' to jog my memory, and here are some titles that came up that I've read, that haven't been mentioned yet:

Alas, Babylon by Pat Frank -- this may not qualify, since it's quite immediately post-apocalypse (the event actually occurs in the book), but I'll mention it anyway for completeness.

Earth Abides by George R. Stewart.

No Blade of Grass by John Christopher -- a bit of an odd apocalypse, to be sure, but it certainly fits in the genre. (This book is alternatively titled The Death of Grass.)

I'm afraid I can't help you with anything more recent -- I've lost my taste for post-apocalyptic and dystopian works in recent years.

Oh, one more:

The Wild Shore by Kim Stanley Robinson. Part of his "Three Californias" thematic trilogy, but the books (the others are Pacific Edge and The Gold Coast are only thematically connected; they don't share setting or characters.)

8myshelves
Jun 12, 2009, 1:18pm Top

It has been a long time, but I remember enjoying Malevil. (Time for a re-read?) The book has good ratings on LT.

I second Earth Abides; one of my favorites.

9usnmm2
Edited: Jun 12, 2009, 1:41pm Top

Just a few mostly golden oldies.

One Second After by William R. Forstchen
The U.S. is hit with EMP (electic magnatic pulse) weapon

The Ice people by Byrene Barjavel
This one is different in that it deals with ancient advanced ciivlazations
Greybeard by Brian Aldiss
MR. ADAM by Pat Frank
A couple of classic what if there was no more children born.

On the Beach by Nevil Shute
Farnham's Freehold by Robert A. Heinlein
A Heritage of Stars by Clifford D. Simak
Classic after nuclear war stories

The New Madrid Run by Michael Reisig
Damnation Alley by Roger Zelazny (also good book bad movie)
What if the face of the world changed. (polar shift)

10Carnophile
Jun 12, 2009, 2:40pm Top

If you want to go low-brow, I'm sure the Terminator movies have been "novelized."

And there's always Heinlein's rather slapdash Farnham's Freehold.

11rowmyboat
Jun 12, 2009, 2:47pm Top

If you're willing to go out of genre a bit there's Mara and Dann by Doris Lessing; The fifth sacred thing by Starhawk; or some stuff by Sheri S. Tepper.

12Carnophile
Jun 12, 2009, 3:36pm Top

Another option if you're willing to go off-genre: After Man: A Zoology of the Future is a fictional bestiary set on an Earth after the human race disappears for reasons unspecified. It is not a story, but is fascinating reading because it combines solid evolutionary theory with imaginative speculation.

13myshelves
Jun 12, 2009, 4:00pm Top

Dealing with post-catastrophes of other kinds, there's Philip Wylie's The Disappearance and The Children of Men by P.D. James.

14tcgardner
Jun 12, 2009, 4:09pm Top

If you want to go the fantasy route The Sword of Shannara by Terry Brooks is post-apocalyptic. Hard to see it though.

15TLCrawford
Jun 12, 2009, 4:15pm Top

How about When Worlds Collide and After Worlds Collide?

Tomorrow also by Philip Wylie and A Handmaids Tale by Atwood

16amberwitch
Jun 12, 2009, 4:20pm Top

Speaking of Mara and Dann, Parable of the Sower by Octavia E. Butler has many parallels to it, despite being set more or less during an apocalypse (in a way MaD is also set during an apocalypse, just the one ending the civilization that was established after the apocalypse that erased 'our' civilization:-). Near future, great book.
Nick Sagan has written a trilogy starting with Idlewild, about the aftermath of Black Ep. The first book (which is the best) deals with the initial survivors (individuals), the second describes the difficulties of precreating (families), and the third deals with reawakening the frozen ones (society). Interesting and challenging (esp. the first one) while being a relatively quick read.

Lethe by Tricia Sullivan is a very nice and wellwritten science fiction post apocalypse story, and City of Bones by Martha Wells is a great fantasy post apocalypse.

17unorna
Jun 12, 2009, 5:22pm Top

How about 'There Will Come Soft Rains' by Ray Bradbury???

18ljbryant
Jun 12, 2009, 5:37pm Top

How about The White Plague by Frank Herbert? Different sort of apocalypse, but definitely enjoyable.

Also, if you have a bit of a fantasy/horror bent, Swan Song by Robert R. McCammon is good.

19Linkmeister
Jun 12, 2009, 5:48pm Top

The Handmaid's Tale is post- some sort of apocalypse.

20geneg
Jun 12, 2009, 5:56pm Top

I wonder if anyone has written what happened to the rest of Earth's population when all the cities took flight? That would be a PA sorta story, dontcha think?

Is The Day of the Triffids set too soon to the apocalypse at its heart?

21ogodei
Edited: Jun 12, 2009, 6:36pm Top

I will go out on a limb and recommend Fiskadoro by Denis Johnson. This is a psychological novel, along the lines of Ballard's works, and a favorite of mine. I would be interested in hearing if anyone here has read it and has any comments.

> 8

*** Major Malevil SPOILERS below ***

I tracked down and read Malevil after the last discussion of post-apocalyptic lit here. It started off well and I was very inclined to like it seeing the reviews and being a big PA fan, but I was seriously disconcerted by a few things in the latter part of the book. The first was the slow elevation of the main character to almost cult-messianic status. He became the perfect warrior, leader, statesman, ladies' man, etc. It became rather insipid toward the end as he was effectively exercising a droit de seigneur with all attractive female characters in the book. I mean they buried him with a nubile virgin as chattel, for gosh sakes. Squick. I am never a fan of infallible characters (especially those with token, attractive failings) but this became a bit distasteful.

Another, more minor, and I think personal, issue was the intense focus on the religious differences and practices of the characters. I appreciated how Merle developed and worked the issues into the plot, it was just a surprise element and I thought a bit too much of a focal point. I admit I haven't lived in an environment where strong conflicting religious populations interact but I supposed in a post-apocalyptic world there would be more cooperation and less contention over religious ritual.

Oh, and the book was a bit expensive to locate even for a just reading copy. All these issues may be a result of cultural and temporal separation from France, 1972, I guess.

Edited for punctuation and clarification of the last sentence.

22usnmm2
Edited: Jun 12, 2009, 6:32pm Top

There is also the 'Dies the Fire' series by S. M. Stirling.

Dies the Fire
the Protector's War
A Meeting at Corvallis

I'll 2nd The White Plague by Frank Herbert

23streamsong
Jun 12, 2009, 6:42pm Top

Another Margaret Atwood: :Oryx and Crake. Her book that comes out in September The Year of the Flood seems to be in the same timeline according to those who have read ER copies.

24victhortheviking
Jun 12, 2009, 7:02pm Top

Where Late the Sweet Birds Sang by Kate Wilhelm is a great book.
Dies the Fire by S.M. Stirling is decent
The Stand by Stephen King: Captain Trips!

25omaca
Jun 12, 2009, 7:35pm Top

These are great suggestions everyone. Many thanks. I'm actually surprised at how many I've read or have mentally put in my "To Read" list already.

Earth Abides and Alas Babylon are two I've long heard about. I must get to them eventually. The Handmaid's Tale has always sounded intriquing, and I believe Atwood is an excellent storyteller. I didn't realize Oryx and Crake was also post-apocalyptic.

How could I have forgotten The Stand? Despite the supernatural aspects, and the fact that I read it many years ago, this is one of my favourites. I have a vague feeling that it was one of the few books to deal with a rather obvious problem often overlooked in many other disaster novels - the bodies.

I'm going to add Stirling's Dies the Fire to my TBR list, as I see it recommended a couple of times here. Ditto Where Late the Sweet Birds Sang (which is a lovely title).

Many thanks to everyone. This post/thread has inspired me to post another asking for recommendations on "good" science fiction. I can see that's going to be an interesting one! :)

Thanks again everyone.

26johnnylogic
Edited: Jun 12, 2009, 7:45pm Top

If you are in the mood for short post apocalyptic stories, Wastelands: Stories of the Apocalypse good collection. It contains the following stories:

The End of the Whole Mess - Stephen King
Salvage - Orson Scott Card
The People of Sand and Slag - Paolo Bacigalupi
Bread and Bombs - M. Rickert
How We Got In Town and Out Again - Jonathan Lethem
Dark, Dark Were the Tunnels - George R.R. Martin
Waiting for the Zephyr - Tobias S. Buckell
Never Despair - Jack McDevitt
When Sysadmins Ruled the Earth - Cory Doctorow
The Last of the O-Forms - James Van Pelt
Still Life with Apocalypse - Richard Kadrey
Artie's Angels - Catherine Wells
Judgement Passed - Jerry Oltion
Mute - Gene Wolfe
Inertia - Nancy Kress
And the Deep blue Sea - Elisabeth Bear
Speech Sounds - Octavia E. Butler
Killers - Carol Emshwiller
Ginny Sweethips' Flying Circus - Neal Barret, Jr.
The End of the World as we Know It - Dale Bailey
A Song Before Sunset - David Grigg

27Linkmeister
Jun 12, 2009, 8:11pm Top

It occurs to me that The Nine Billion Names of God is actually at-the-moment-of apocalypse.

Fail Safe is similar, although it doesn't depict a worldwide calamity, only (!) one occuring in two cities. If you get a chance to see the film, the last scenes are searing.

28rojse
Jun 12, 2009, 9:11pm Top

Hmm...

Jem, by Frederik Pohl, is also at-the-moment-of apocalypse, and well worth reading.

Earth Abides. Excellent novel.

If you don't mind fantasy mixed in with your Science Fiction, have a look at Wolf In Shadow, which is quite enjoyable.

Day of the Triffids deals with the immediate aftermath of a world-wide disaster.

Last and First Men contains quite a few apocalypses in it's storyline. It's definitely not everyone's cup of tea, though - it can be quite dry reading.

29fredbacon
Jun 12, 2009, 10:34pm Top

I would tend to agree with the recommendations of The Stand, Earth Abides, and On the Beach. However, Swan Song is the worst trash that I've ever tried to read. I forced myself about a third of the way through it, but had to quit. It was terrible.

Lucifer's Hammer is an interesting book. I read it when it came out thirty years or so ago, and I thought it was great. A few years ago, I decided to re-read it. The experience was very different. I came away with the impression that Niven and Pournelle's only experience with African-Americans came from watching blaxploitation films. They ventured beyond racism into unintentional comedy. It would be interesting if someone could rescue the good parts of the book and make a decent miniseries out of it.

Speaking of which, I've always thought that The Postman was partly inspired by Harry, the mail carrier in Lucifer's Hammer.

30jmnlman
Jun 12, 2009, 10:47pm Top

World Made By Hand is thought highly of at least by "the end is coming" types.

31omaca
Jun 12, 2009, 11:08pm Top

> 29 fredbacon

You're absolutely right about Lucifer's Hammer. Great book when I first read it, but I haven't had the nerve to go back to it. I also agree with you about The Postman being inspired by Niven/Pournelle's work.

I loved Niven's Known Space series when I was younger. A Gift From Earth, Tales of Known Space, Ringworld and The Ringworld Engineers etc. But that's a thread for another post...

32StormRaven
Edited: Jun 13, 2009, 10:45pm Top

Its a short story, but A Boy and His Dog by Harlan Ellison is great. No Night Without Stars by Andre Norton is good.

John Varley's The Ophiuchi Hotline and related books deal with a very different kind of post-apocalyptic scenario in which humanity has been driven off the Earth. His Millennium also deals with a post-apocalyptic scenario, but a very different one.

I'll echo the suggestion of Riddley Walker. Be warned though, it is not easy reading. The dialect it is written in is difficult to follow, and often it works best to read the text aloud.

33amberwitch
Jun 13, 2009, 7:57am Top

A Creed for the third Millenium by Colleen McCullough is also more of a apocalyptic than a post apocalyptic story, but interesting just the same.

34Carnophile
Jun 13, 2009, 8:40am Top

>32 StormRaven: For those who don't know, the two novels related to The Ophiuchi Hotline are Steel Beach and its sequel The Golden Globe. They're both good, but I admire Steel Beach rather more.

35Jennifertapir
Jun 13, 2009, 9:36am Top

Earth Abides (Stewart) which has a certain post-war optimisim
The Road (McCormac) which has very little optimism - don't try it if you are at all depressed!
The Day of the Triffids (Wyndham) in which male Brits keep it together in the face of alien plant life
On the Beach (Shute) heart tugging post nuclear love story
Drowned London (Jefferies) A 19th century view of the desturction of urban life, a remarkable book

36ogodei
Jun 13, 2009, 9:46am Top

> 35 I have never heard of "Drowned London" and can't find any references for it. Is this perhaps After London or Wild England by Richard Jefferies? Can you provide any more info on the title?

37Jennifertapir
Jun 13, 2009, 11:59am Top

Oops - After London (and Wild London as it is sometimes called) Jefferies was, I think a nature writer and journalist. The edition I recall was possibly a Garland or AMS reprint edition, the novel basically sees a post-disaster world in terms of a medieval-ised society living in the ruins. A recent non-fiction book looks at the impact of man in a post-human world that suggests the mess we make would be cleansed by nature pretty quickly!

38weener
Jun 13, 2009, 12:35pm Top

I really get into post-apocalyptic fiction for some reason, and this thread has given me a lot of great suggestions. A sort of obscure one that I haven't seen mentioned yet is Level 7 by Mordecai Roshwald. Absolutely bleak and depressing.

39ronincats
Jun 13, 2009, 11:50pm Top

Always Coming Home by Ursula Le Guin
Dinner at Deviant's Palace by Tim Powers
Parable of the Sower by Octavia Butler

40bobmcconnaughey
Edited: Jun 14, 2009, 10:08pm Top

the drowned world ballard. Beginning of the ends. (well, not really, but the one of the early "modern" SF takes on the classic theme).

crescent city rhapsody Goonan - New Orleans blues.

souls in the great machine and its sequels. The first book, however, is the best. Portions of Oz recover, sort of, and reinvent the computer - as a human based computing system (ie. some people are "adders" others "xor" etc). Librarians who hold bits and pieces of past knowledge show that knowledge is power. An ingenious and carefully worked out PA society unlike any other i've read. Well written too.

the city, not long after Pat Murphy. SF after the plague.

freakangels comic book - What's left in a London/Britain where a band of mutants who were responsible for the end of civilization try to rebuild and atone. Online as well.

V for Vendetta - the comic book is the only one by Alan Moore that i really like. Post holocaust England under the heel of the fascist boot that wants to stomp on humanity's face, forever.

Oh.. a Canticle for Leibowitz

niven and pournelle have the sensibility of a 13 yr old boy circa 1965. If you want trite, they're your team.

41lquilter
Jun 15, 2009, 12:18am Top

a few others:

Suzy McKee Charnas' books beginning with Walk to the End of the World ... Motherlines ... The Furies ... and Conqueror's Child are great. From confusion to rage to revenge to possibly reconciliation.

Jonathan Lerner wrote Caught in a Still Place, which I quite enjoyed. Plague wiped out most people; the last folks eke out an existence.

Chelsea Quinn Yarbro's False Dawn. Mutants, evil roving horrors, and so forth in a post-apocalyptic journey.

Stephanie A. Smith's Other Nature follows mysterious decline, mutations, etc.
Jean Hegland's Into the Forest is a post-gradual decline apocalypse.
Marlen Haushofer's The Wall (Eng. title; original Austrian was Die Wand is a truly amazing robinsonade; post-nuclear, I believe, a woman survives behind a mysterious wall.

A Gift Upon the Shore by M. K. Wren is a post-nuclear apocalypse. Two friends eke out an existence; trouble comes when one of them goes looking for other people and finds them. Religion, censorship, community, power.
Tepper's The Gate to Women's Country is her most classically post-apocalyptic novel. However, for some other scenes of potential post-apocalypse, try Beauty by Sheri S. Tepper as well.
Joan Slonczewski's The Wall Around Eden features alien intervention to preserve some humanity after a nuclear war.
Esther Friesner who usually writes comedic fantasy wrote two post-apocalyptic novels, The Psalms of Herod and The Sword of Mary. Horrible religious culture has been created from the ashes.
Pamela Sargent's post-apocalyptic is The Shore of Women; a woman is banished from her protected city and ends up exploring the (recovering) world.

42StormRaven
Jun 15, 2009, 12:30am Top

Oh, I forgot The Road to Corlay and its sequels A Dream of Kinship and A Tapestry of Time. Those are good post-apocalyptic stories, set after rising waters change the landscape of Europe.

43justifiedsinner
Jun 15, 2009, 10:00am Top

John Shirley 's Eclipse Trilogy (A Song called Youth):

Eclipse
Eclipse Penumbra
Eclipse Corona

44Aerrin99
Jun 16, 2009, 11:53am Top

Yay, post-apoc! I'm a huge fan myself.

I second The Stand and negative-second One Second After.

If you like YA at all, I can't recommend Life as We Knew It enough. And although not /strictly/ post-apoc, I suppose, I loved World War Z, and it certainly had the same feel to it. So if you like zombies at all...

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go start adding the rest of these books to my wishlist...

45geneg
Jun 16, 2009, 12:43pm Top

Which of the three complete novels do you second when you second The Stand? Each of them is equally bad.

46Emidawg
Jun 17, 2009, 2:21am Top

The Chrysalids - Fantatical church destroys mutants... group of children find they are telepathic and have to hide their secret or be killed.
The Pelbar Cycle - Long after the apocalypse, the tribes of man are slowly reuniting after generations of hostility.

Older books but still quite good, both are set way after Armageddon during a period of rebuilding.

47TLCrawford
Jun 17, 2009, 11:46am Top

#45

I thought the first part of The Stand was the only thing King ever wrote that was readable.

48Aerrin99
Jun 18, 2009, 12:02pm Top

> 45

Well, the one I read was the expanded uncut version - that was accidental, and I suspect that the cut version is better (felt like a good deal of filler). But the spread of Captain Trip's across the country is one those written events that felt terrifyingly real, with sound and smell and feel.

I'm not a huge King fan, although I've liked one or two of his books, but I /did/ like The Stand for the most part (see above re: filler).

49geneg
Jun 18, 2009, 1:25pm Top

I read the edited version that was originally published. It was still loaded with bloat.

50weezla
Jun 18, 2009, 5:34pm Top

I second "On The Beach" -- it's fantasic.

Also recommend Whitley Streiber's "War Day" a "memoir" of post-apocalyptic America.

51lennynero
Jun 20, 2009, 8:55am Top

The Rift by Walter Jon Williams ~ A major Earthquake splits the U.S. into two halves.

A Wrinkle in the Skin by John Christopher ~ A worldwide shift in tectonic plates sends a man from the Channel Isles across a now dry, empty seabed to the mainland searching for his daughter.

http://www.librarything.com/topic/14802

52mike61n94w
Edited: Jul 2, 2009, 5:56pm Top

Lots of doom and gloom new to me. THX!

Post-apocalyptic, first contact, galactical scope and a debut novel =
Water by H.E. Taylor

and the touchstones apparently exited, uhm, stage left....
so ya'all can reprise via my stream...

53DWWilkin
Jul 2, 2009, 9:24pm Top

Of those that I own and are in the list, Lucifer's Hammer and Pelbar Cycle are probably the best. I saw 19 checks as I scanned the list just now. But there are ways to think of post apocalyptic. THere is we are hear before the event, live through and try to make a go of it which is very different from those who have no memory of the world before the event. Only what the world they live in is like, and the legends of the world before.

55nhlsecord
Jul 4, 2009, 9:02pm Top

How about Fallen Angels by Larry Niven et al? Oh Oh - I see the touchstone hasn't matched me with Fallen Angels. If you are a fan of Science Fiction conventions and DIY methods Fallen Angels is a lot of fun.

I have also read a number of the books you've all listed and enjoyed them, especially The Postman. I'll have to look the others up.

56calwakeel
Jul 4, 2009, 9:12pm Top

interesting suggestions. i'll definitely be revisiting this thread for book recommendations.

i second the suggestion for World War Z. Amazing book.

57CAPederson
Jul 5, 2009, 4:26pm Top

(Wolf And Iron)

by ((Gordon R. Dickson))

the world is wrecked by an economic meltdown, timely somehow.

I read it twice, usually a good sign.

Fantus

58PkrImperatrix
Jul 6, 2009, 12:54am Top

City and the Stars, by Arthur C. Clarke
Pebble in the Sky, by Isaac Asimov
Breed To Come, by Andre Norton (cats!)
The Sheep Look Up, by John Brunner (actually, the apocalypse happening.....)
Stand on Zanzibar, by John Brunner ( ditto)

And, really, you might try Canticle for Liebowitz another try. I couldn't get into it the first 2 attempts, but on my third I not only finished it, I LOVED it!

59geneg
Jul 6, 2009, 9:57am Top

I've been thinking about Anatole France's Penguin Island for this thread. As I recall, and unfortunately it is in my memory's dead zone, it is along the lines of Animal Farm. What do you think? Is it dystopian?

60ogodei
Jul 6, 2009, 10:02am Top

>59 geneg: I think that's a satirical dystopia, along the lines of Swift, rather than apocalyptic or post-apocalyptic lit. Good book though.

61DWWilkin
Jul 6, 2009, 10:34am Top

I was thinking that Nightfall is also very much Apocalyptic in nature. We have the event coming towards us. But it is not based on earth and as I remember the story ends as the event happens.

62SusieBookworm
Jul 7, 2009, 9:25pm Top

The Obernewtyn series by Isobelle Carmody is pretty good; I think it's up to six volumes now. A new one that came out this year is the first book in The Great Ship of Knowledge trilogy, though the first volume is primarily an account of the apocalypse.

63JoseBuendia
Jul 10, 2009, 3:14pm Top

#21 - I have read Fiskadoro and really liked it. I have bought another copy and plan on rereading it. The ending is transcendent.

64rastaphrog
Edited: Jul 19, 2009, 9:18am Top

#61 I was thinking that Nightfall is also very much Apocalyptic in nature. We have the event coming towards us. But it is not based on earth and as I remember the story ends as the event happens.

The short story ends shortly after the event, but an full length novel written with Robert Silverberg was published in 1990. It expands on the events leading up to, during, and then after the "darkness". The Nightfall Novel

edited to fix typo

65Anastasia169
Jul 19, 2009, 5:30pm Top

For YA PA fiction I recommend Life as we Knew It and The Dead and the Gone both by Susan Beth Pfeffer and set in the same 'verse. Z for Zachariah and The Forest of Hands and Teeth for those of you with a yen for Zombies. The adult PA has been mostly catalogued here, but I give a medium recommendation to Dark Advent and Swan Song and Random Acts of Senseless Violence which has interesting language and falls somewhere between YA and adult.

66collin
Jul 20, 2009, 7:56am Top

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67KathyBell
Nov 21, 2009, 3:13pm Top

I would actually suggest the host by Stephanie Meyer as post-apocalyptic, since the story is set after 'body-snatchers' have taken over most humans on the planet.

The story reads as easily as Twilight, so if you are looking for something challenging from a literary perspective, this is not the book. Meyer gives you some insight into what she thinks is wrong with our current society and also creates neat alien cultures and personalities. It is a lighter read than the typical PA novel, but perhaps might be worth a try. One reader did suggest my own PA novel, Regression was comparable to it.

I myself am about to dip into Oryx and Crake and the Handmaid's Tale, I ordered them both on my brand new Kindle!

68john257hopper
Nov 25, 2009, 8:27am Top

I just finished I am Legend which was very powerful, especially the sense of isolation experienced by the central character.

69jimmaclachlan
Nov 25, 2009, 11:04am Top

#68 > Have you seen "The Last Man On Earth" with Vincent Price? It's free up on archive.org. Of the 3 movies based on I Am Legend, it's the best, IMO. It holds fairly close to the book, although the end is hollywooded some.

70ogodei
Nov 25, 2009, 12:56pm Top

#68> Loved I Am Legend. I've been somewhat disappointed by Matheson's other weird fiction and horror work though.

71jburlinson
Nov 25, 2009, 2:27pm Top

One of my favorite Mad magazine cartoons showed an old man sitting on a tree stump telling a young boy, "When your grandmother and I first came here this was a thriving metropolis, and we single-handedly turned it into a godforsaken wilderness."

72john257hopper
Nov 26, 2009, 7:50am Top

#69 - no I haven't, though I have seen the other 2. I don't know archive.org, how does that work?

73crazybatcow
Nov 26, 2009, 8:43am Top

See... I found I am Legend too internal... half the book is a discussion of Neville's looming insanity (or lack thereof...) he philosophizes too much (am I insane, is this normal, how scary I must be, am I human), kicks butt not enough.

74rojse
Nov 26, 2009, 9:53am Top

#73

There are plenty of "humans butt-kicking vampires" books out there for you to read. However, I liked the intelligent and thoughtful nature of "I Am Legend". I liked how it stayed away from cheap scares, and how Neville had to develop his own solutions to the vampire problem from scratch, rather than be the brute so beloved in action novels.

I also liked the introspection of the novel, particularly since it allowed Matheson to make the whole idea of vampirism a scientifically-explainable premise, rather than one only explained through mythology.

75crazybatcow
Nov 26, 2009, 10:09am Top

That's what I find funny/weird about books... everyone likes such different things. #74, you liked the exact thing about the book that I disliked...

I find that quite fascinating... but not enough to philosophize on whether or not I remain human... ;-)

76jimmaclachlan
Nov 26, 2009, 11:01am Top

#72 > Best to just drop by archive.org & you'll see. You just search for what you want & can download anything available for free. All legal content, no sign up needed. The free movies aren't the greatest resolution usually, but they're viewable & worth the download time or you can watch it right there.

I went there & searched on 'Vincent Price' under a media type of 'movies'. About halfway down, I found two uploads of the movie. Here's the link to one:
http://www.archive.org/details/Last_Man_on_Earth_movie

They have some good stuff there. Well worth a visit.

77john257hopper
Nov 27, 2009, 6:09am Top

#73, 74

I though his introspection and doubting his own rationality were entirely understandable reactions to the situation in which he found himself. I might have got weary if there had been hundreds and hundreds of pages of nothing but that, but as it was I thought the balance between this and action was about right.

78pahoota
Nov 27, 2009, 1:36pm Top

To answer the original post: I too have always loved the post-apocalyptic genre and find myself looking for new books to enjoy. I just finished The Devil's Day by James Blish. More of an apocalypse story than a PA one, but I found it outstanding. I've only recently returned to SF/fantasy after years of reading only non-fiction and have been sorely disappointed by everything. Growing up sucks. Blish's work was an exception; the first good SF/fantasy story I've read in a long time.

79RBeffa
Nov 28, 2009, 1:16pm Top

I'm going to second the nomination of World Made By Hand by James Howard Kunstler. I just finished it up and found myself liking it more than the mixed reviews suggested I would. There are a few faults to the story, esp near the end, but overall it is a richly drawn post apocalyptic story of a town that has remained somewhat insulated from the worst effects of the deterioration of society. An interesting, slower paced story than most, rich on the details of a rural life.

80jimmaclachlan
Nov 28, 2009, 1:53pm Top

I liked "A World Made By Hand". I haven't read the "Long Emergency" yet, but plan to soon.

81BOSK
Nov 29, 2009, 12:34am Top

I really enjoyed the (Long Emergency). I sat in Borders and read the entire book. Then I bought it after I read it. It is not a novel.

82jimmaclachlan
Nov 29, 2009, 6:29am Top

So many of the apocalyptic novels do seem like they could easily come to pass. I finally finished On the Beach & it was horrifying. Very well written, extremely depressing & could have been written last year for the way the atomic war starts. It was written over 50 years ago, though in 1957.

83ogodei
Nov 29, 2009, 11:03pm Top

Just finished Hiero's Journey by Sterling E. Lanier. Lanier uses the hard radiation left over from an apparent nuclear apocalypse as explanation for what would otherwise be a fantasy world: telepathy, divination, intelligent talking animals, fantastic creatures & alien life forms, etc. It finally became an odd mixture of The Lord of the Rings (a very obvious influence) and The Odyssey as more and more fantastic creatures were encountered. For example, Hiero and his group of sailors were drugged asleep by a race of beautiful avian women and then impregnated them by means of sexual dreams alone. Huh.

Not very fulfilling compared to some other “hard” PA novels but an interesting take on the subject.

84omaca
Nov 30, 2009, 3:35am Top

ogodei

I read that book years ago. Brings back memories! I remember very much enjoying it. I do believe there's a sequel.

85TLCrawford
Nov 30, 2009, 8:17am Top

The Unforsaken Hiero is the sequel, I remember it was as fun as the first.

86MichaelKeyWest
Dec 1, 2009, 7:29am Top

I can't believe Swan Song was trashed!! I loved it!! Oh well. Whitley Strieber and James Kunetkas Natures End was fantastic. Also Wolf and Iron by Gordon Dickson was excellent.

87rojse
Dec 1, 2009, 8:49am Top

I remember enjoying "Nature's End" as a teen. It's about time I ordered it in to my library and reread it.

88psybre
Dec 1, 2009, 10:58am Top

Not yet mentioned, and a post-apocalyptic novel with some real twists and risks, is Michaela Roessner's Vanishing Point. It's surprising that I enjoyed the book so much since the science fiction that explains the reason for the apocalypse is poor. If you can get past the less than hard sf, it's a good, quirky yarn. One reviewer compares it favorably to Robinson's The Wild Shore and I enjoyed that a lot, too.

Earth Abides is foremost in my opinion.

89rgurskey
Dec 1, 2009, 4:40pm Top

> #85

I thought the ending of The Unforsaken Hiero to be rushed, but I did like it. Just not as much as Hiero's Journey.

90rgurskey
Dec 1, 2009, 5:31pm Top

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Emergence by David R. Palmer. This is one of my favorite books.

91William_Bailey
Edited: Jan 11, 2011, 6:01am Top

Here is the link to my post apocalyptic novel , The Great Ship of Knowledge, on Library Thing.

http://www.librarything.com/work/8438010/reviews/46913748

The first ten chapters are now online at www.thegreatshipofknowledge.com

92TLCrawford
Dec 4, 2009, 9:00am Top

I think it was in the late 1970s that I read a book, more apocalyptic than post, about a plague spreading through the United States. I think the disease started in or around Tennessee and caused the human immune system to completely fail, people were dying of common problems like acne and tooth decay. I know that this was before AIDS because when I first heard of AIDS I remembered this book. Does it ring a bell with anyone?

It was not a very good book; the only things I remember about it are what I put in the first paragraph. At the time I thought the idea was original but if not for the appearance of HIV/AIDS I might not even remember that.

To get back to the topic does anyone remember any post-apocalyptic books where the fall of civilization was from disease?

93john257hopper
Dec 4, 2009, 10:55am Top

#92 - Loads. Earth Abides, Survivors, The Empty World. In most of these the apocalypse happens near the beginning of the book, and most of the narrative is survivors dealing with the aftermath.

94ogodei
Dec 4, 2009, 11:30am Top

95ogodei
Dec 4, 2009, 11:35am Top

Oh, and how could I forget The Long Loud Silence.

96TLCrawford
Dec 4, 2009, 5:23pm Top

Ouch, I must be getting old, I should have remembered Earth Abides and I Am Legend.

97RBeffa
Dec 4, 2009, 11:18pm Top

The Scarlet Plague by Jack London is one of the grandaddies of post-apocalyptic fiction, post-plague, and a short one at less than 90 pages.

98davidberry
Dec 7, 2009, 5:32pm Top

All Fools Day and Survivors, The book of the BBC TV series from the 80's. If you fancy a change from reading you could do worse than watch Survivors and The Last Train,

99calm
Dec 7, 2009, 5:40pm Top

Dreamsnake by Vonda N. McIntyre is set in a post apocalyptic world.

100john257hopper
Dec 9, 2009, 8:04am Top

#98 - Survivors was in the 70s (original UK broadcast 75-77).

101Anastasia169
Mar 27, 2010, 9:54pm Top

M.K. Wren, A Gift Upon the Shore is post apocalyptic and parts of Kage Baker's long time-travel series of The Company deals with post-apocalyptic themes, though she mixes it with time travel and some straight sci-fi and adventure. But her world of the future is both dystopic and post-apocalyptic - a two-fer. Thanks to all for the great suggestions, I ordered a few of them already. My name is Anastasia and I am a bookaholic.

#98 and 100, there is a new re-make of Survivors currently airing on BBC America. I have to say there are a few plotholes, but it is worth a watch.

102theherocomplex
Jun 13, 2010, 11:27pm Top

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Elizabeth Hand's work! She does a lot with post-apocalyptic scenarios. I really recommend Winterlong and Aestival Tide, which are parts of a loose trilogy. The third book in the trilogy, Icarus Descending, isn't a favorite of mine, but still excellent.

103AlanPoulter
Edited: Jun 17, 2010, 6:12am Top

Searching for the tag 'global disaster' in my collection gets the following, which I rated and reviewed at 3* or more:

Brian Aldiss
The gods in flight (short story)
Paolo Bacigalupi
The calorie man (short story)
Stephen Baxter
Flood
Thomas M. Disch
Canned goods (short story)
Alex Irvine
Seventh fall (short story)
Tyler Keevil
Hibakusha (short story)
Alastair Reynolds
Enola (short story)
Keith Roberts
Drek Yarman
Jason Sanford
Plague Birds (short story)

104GuyO
Sep 3, 2010, 8:03pm Top

Robert Heinlein wrote two PA novels, The earlier of the two is Sixth Column published in 1949 and Farnham's Freehold published in 1964

105BOSK
Sep 6, 2010, 12:20am Top

At DragonCon this weekend I got to attend several panels on Post Apocalyptic fiction. One panel had S.M. Stirling, Eric Flint, Kathryn Hinds, and Michael Williamson. When asked about recommendations they all said that The Hunger Games by Suzanne Collins was the best recent post apocalyptic work.

106Emidawg
Edited: Sep 6, 2010, 6:18am Top

Folk of the Fringe a collection of short stories either written by or compiled by Orson Scott Card, I cant find my copy to verify authorship.

I actually just picked up a The Hunger Games box set, am looking forward to reading it

107Emidawg
Sep 6, 2010, 6:17am Top

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108StormRaven
Sep 6, 2010, 8:37am Top

Folk of the Fringe a collection of short stories either written by or compiled by Orson Scott Card, I cant find my copy to verify authorship.

The stories in Folk of the Fringe are all written by Orson Scott Card.

109RobertDay
Sep 6, 2010, 4:54pm Top

And were an attempt to recast The Book of Mormon as post-apocalyptic sf.

110TLCrawford
Sep 7, 2010, 10:02am Top

Speaking of religion reminded me of a classic, The Chrysalids by John Wyandham. When I could suspend my disbelief of ESP it was a very good story, when I tried to reread it a few years ago, not so much.

111sf_addict
Sep 8, 2010, 9:19am Top

Not my favourite genre but I enjoyed Shiel's The Purple Cloud

112William_Bailey
Jan 8, 2011, 11:42am Top

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I think you might enjoy reading my debut novel The Great Ship of Knowledge-Learning Earth's Deathy History. The story is in the post-apocalyptic genre with radical twist of reality. I believe my first edition is now sold out. I'm working on the 2nd edition, and you can read the first ten chapters online at: www.thegreatshipofknowledge.com

I hope you enjoy reading them.

~William

113cdhtenn2k10
Edited: Jan 8, 2011, 2:58pm Top

With Out Warning by John Birmingham is very good. It's a global thriller with some military action, pirates, and a mystery. Very well researched and written.

114tjm568
Jan 10, 2011, 11:26pm Top

-113
He wrote a sequel After America which was also good fun.

115cdhtenn2k10
Jan 10, 2011, 11:29pm Top

Yeah, when After America hit pb I intend to snatch it up!

116andyl
Jan 11, 2011, 4:10am Top

I've just read Eric Brown's Guardians Of The Phoenix which is definitely post-apocalyptic.

117William_Bailey
Edited: Jan 11, 2011, 6:07am Top

Sorry about the repeat post. My bad.

118ceilmary
Jan 22, 2011, 8:26pm Top

Two newer novels in post-apocalyptic fiction: The World Ends In Hickory Hollow by Ardath Mayhar and One by Conrad Williams. I am reading One, and it is pretty good. I enjoyed The World Ends In Hickory Hollow.

119SpongeBobFishpants
Jan 22, 2011, 9:11pm Top

I think it's fascinating that a genre as apparently cut and dried as post-apocalyptic has as many different definitions as asking a group of people what qualifies as a classic...

Anyway, PA sci-fi is a real favorite of mine. I have some of my collection listed here but since I am always perpetually behind in listing my books I don't have them all in here but nonetheless you can check the post-apocalyptic/dystopian tag in my library for some good ones.

I read the short story collection Wastelands on my honeymoon and LOVED it but have not yet read The Pesthouse or Parasites Like Us.

For an interesting nonfiction take on it I would recommend The World Without Us. I read that on a flight to the South Pacific and it was just the thought experiment to keep my mind occupied the whole way.

120egriton
Jan 22, 2011, 11:01pm Top

I recently finished Peter Clines, Ex-Heroes.

It it set a few years after zombie virus spreads worldwide (though with intermittent chapters which return to before and during the spread).

The novel focuses on a group of survivors in LA who are protected by a handful of superheroes. The plot primarily revolves around the conflict between this group and another group of survivors that include a street gang, one of whom is able to mind-control the zombies, some of whom are "ex-heroes". The two groups complete for the remaining food and other supplies of the city.

Very fast paced and fun. Consider it at the opposite end of the spectrum from something like The Road.

121cdhtenn2k10
Jan 22, 2011, 11:18pm Top

Recently read a book called Hunter's War by Peter Methven. It's available at Smashwords for pretty cheap. It's an excellent read, and takes place some time after the apocalypse. It follows a soldier's journey from the UK to New Zealand. We see the results of the apocalypse and how different societies faired. Some did better than others. I wasn't expecting much in the way of world building, but Methven did an excellent job.

By the way, does anybody remember a series from the '80s called the Guardians? It was by Richard Austin, a pen name of Victor Milans. If you want PA, check out the 80's. I couldn't get enough of the stuff back then, and it was everywhere.

122bj
Jan 23, 2011, 12:52am Top

Winter by Simon Brown is set in Sydney after a nuclear war, where Sydney is the dominate city of the world as it was least affected by the fallout due to it's distance away from the bomb blasts.

(there are 100 choices in touchstones for 'Winter' and none of them are the right book! Stupid touchstones)

123PCFrank
Sep 30, 2011, 11:51am Top

Another favorite PA book:

Has anyone mentioned Into the Forest by Jean Hegland? I enjoyed this one a lot..it's rather unusual as it follows two teen-aged girls surviving in a PA world...it kept me reading and the writing was superb. Anyone else a fan of this book?

124RBeffa
Edited: Dec 20, 2013, 2:08pm Top

re:123 I am a fan of Into the Forest. I have two copies of it, one signed by the author and the other is my loaner copy that I hand out to friends wanting to try some post-apocalyptic or even regular science fiction. Living in Northern California gave the book a little extra resonance as well.

125RBeffa
Dec 20, 2013, 2:13pm Top

Currently reading Adam Johnson's Parasites Like Us that has an academic setting in South Dakota and anthropology regarding the Clovis people who are thought to be the original settlers of North America 12,000 years ago. It turns apocalyptic.

126drmamm
Dec 20, 2013, 4:23pm Top

I liked Flashback a lot. (The Dan Simmons version, not the one in the touchstone.) People criticize the political overtones, but underneath it all is some damn good writing. Characters, plot, etc. And the "ending" will keep you up at night. Did it really end that way???

127LawrencePerson
Edited: Dec 24, 2013, 6:09pm Top

I'm surprised there's no mention of Edgar Pangborn's Davy, or Howard Waldrop's Mary Margaret Road-Grader"

128lquilter
Edited: Dec 25, 2013, 10:00pm Top

Loved Pangborn's Davy! A lot. I'm not familiar with Mary Margaret Road-Grader -- looks like a short story? does anyone have more details on it? (you, LawrencePerson?)

... speaking of post-apocalyptic short stories, I recently read and loved "The Night of the Long Knives" by Fritz Leiber.

129UncleMort
Edited: Jan 19, 9:06am Top

I have to recommend Alex Scarrow's two post-apocalyptic novels: Last Light and Afterlight set in the UK after a massive oil crisis cuts all supplies.

Made me realize how fragile our society is. Take away transport and electricity and things go to pot really quickly.

130HoldenCarver
Jan 22, 9:28pm Top

>128 lquilter: Yep, Mary Margaret Road-Grader is a short story. You can find it in several volumes, of which Strange Things in Close Up is the one I'd say to go for. I really like Waldrop, there's no-one else who writes science-fiction quite like him.

131Bryan_Romer
Jan 27, 7:56am Top

Jerry Ahern's "Survivalist" series.
Robert Adam's "Horseclans" series.

Hard to get though.

132Emidawg
Edited: Jan 29, 1:35pm Top

Someone just recommended a post-apocalyptic series to me but I haven't read it yet so I cant vouch for it.

The Series starts with "Warrior"

Donald E. Mcquinn

133tyrone.minnifield
Mar 9, 10:03am Top

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If you're into sci-fi with a fair mix of mayan prophecy, ancient mythology, aliens, government conspiracies, etc. which all play into a "This could really happen" scenario, take a look at my first book titled "The Great Keepers"

https://www.createspace.com/4582796

Also available on ebook: http://amzn.com/B00HG2WVKW

134gbcmars
Edited: Mar 19, 8:07pm Top

Many of these are seconds to other comments: Riddley Walker (read it aloud if you have trouble with the language), The Long Tomorrow, the Postman (movie is a travesty, book is really good), A Boy and His Dog (both book and movie - surprisingly - are very good), Where Late the Sweet Birds Sang, the Drowned World, Davy, Death of Grass, Earth Abides, Greybeard, On the Beach, Children of Men, the Doomsday Book (a real apocalypse...the bubonic plague). I actually found Atwood's "Handmaid's Tale" to be pretty stupid (Suzette Haden Elgin's novella "For the Sake of Grace" is same theme, shorter, much better written, but not post apocalypse.) A Canticle for Liebowitz is very good. I fail to see how Ringworld is post apocalypse, although it's a very good story. Going back further, Doyle's "The Poison Belt" is interesting, and Mary Shelley I think wrote one...the Last Man?

135rgurskey
Mar 21, 4:48pm Top

Japanese Mange - Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind. Avoid the VHS tape, but read the comic/graphic novels.

136nrmay
May 24, 12:57am Top

I don't think these have been mentioned yet -

Rivers by Michael Smith
Blood Red Road by Moira Young. First in the Dust Lands trilogy, followed by Rebel Heart and Raging Star
Wolf of Shadows by Whitney Striber
Juniper Time by Kate Wilhelm

Survivors by Terry Nation is a book as well as a TV series.

Dreamsnake by Vonda McIntyre, mentioned above, won both the Hugo and Nebula awards.

137EnidaV
Edited: May 25, 7:56pm Top

The Dog Stars by Peter Heller was amazing. One of the best post-apocalyptic novels I've ever read.
I've always loved The Day of the Triffids which has already been mentioned a few times. But what about Wyndham's The Kraken Wakes aka Out of the Deeps ?
If you don't mind YA books the Pure trilogy-in-progress by Julianna Baggot is good. I've read the first two so far, Fuse and Pure and am waiting to get the last one, Burn.
Paul J McAuley, one of my favorite authors, wrote a bunch of post-apocalyptic books earlier in his career: White Devils, Fairyland, and The Secret of Life are probably the best.

*I wrote the above when it was past my bedtime. Although Paul McAuley's books are set in a future that isn't very pleasant, they aren't actually post-apocalyptic.

138auntmarge64
Edited: May 25, 7:08pm Top

The Southern Reach trilogy is new out this year, parts one and two in print as of May and the third coming out in the Fall. Here's my review for Annihilation by Jeff Vandermeer:

Four women, known only by their titles (biologist, psychologist, anthropologist, surveyor), have been sent through some kind of “border” from a world which appears to be modern Earth to a place where many things are familiar (plants, animals, structures, geography) but there are no people, and where nothing makes sense. The team has been told they are the 12th expedition to Area X, a part of their own world which suffered a catastrophe several decades ago and is no longer inhabitable, understandable, or even easily accessible. Most of the previous team members have been killed or become murderers themselves, or died after returning, or disappeared. The biologist, who is the narrator, quickly discovers that the psychologist has been regularly hypnotizing the other three to keep them focused, calm, and under certain illusions as to what they are experiencing. Where the team has been sent is unclear: possibly where they've been told, possibly another world or reality, or a section of their own world colonized by something new And, of course, there’s the possibility that the whole experience is taking place in the biologist’s mind, or that her memories of the past are products of hypnotic suggestion or madness.

This was one of the most inventive and tense books I've run across. Each page brings surprises and new clues, so many, in fact, that less and less makes sense. Will any of the team retain their sanity, or even survive? Does death mean something different here? And what is the “border”, anyway, and how can it be found in order to return home?

Other reviewers commented negatively on the use of job titles rather than personal names, but I thought it added to an understanding of the distance the characters felt towards each other and their environment. There were also comments that the book ended abruptly, but here, too, I disagreed. I knew before reading this that it was the first part of a trilogy, but it also stands alone: the end made sense to me, even if Area X didn’t. I’m looking forward to the next installments (one is being published in May and the third in September, 2014), but I can really use the break to relax before submerging myself in this story again.


Edited to add review of the second part of the trilogy, Authority:

While the first book in this post-apocalyptic/SF/horror trilogy can be satisfactorily read as a stand-alone, this one most definitely cannot. Be sure to read "Annihilation" first, or what happens here will not make much sense.

"Authority" continues the story soon after "Annihilation" ends and follows the new director of Southern Reach, the government agency charged with making sense of Area X. This decades-old anomaly has isolated a large geographic area in North American and allowed only a few explorers to enter and even fewer to return, none without mental and physical damage. The director makes little progress for most of the book, as he is thwarted and mislead by both employees and his superiors. As the book comes to a close, abrupt changes in the relationship between Southern Reach and Area X force the director to make some unorthodox decisions in order to continue to makes sense of what is happening to Earth.

This entry in the trilogy was fairly frustrating because of the roadblocks the director faces, but the end makes it worthwhile and will leave readers wishing the publication of the third volume (Sept 2014) would be moved up.

139imyril
May 26, 8:36am Top

>138 auntmarge64: I really enjoyed Annihilation, although I think I'll get more out of it on re-reading than first reading, and am looking forward to the sequel. I agree it would work as a stand-alone - although I'm not convinced (in spite of the marketing) that it reads as an apocalypse novel (I know that's how it's sold, and it's why I picked it up). As you say, it's clear that the biologist is an unreliable narrator (possibly through no fault of her own), so the location of Area X becomes as big a mystery as what is happening there. It could be billed as first contact as easily as apocalypse (or even be purely psychological)... although I see the sequel makes all this more explicit.

I liked the ambiguity of the first instalment. I know things become clearer from here on in - I'm not sure how I feel about that yet. I'll reserve judgement until I've read Authority.

140Tobbi73
Jun 19, 5:31am Top

I really enjoyed The Passage

Didn't like the second book that much.

141Lee_and_JJ
Jun 19, 2:52pm Top

Definitely on our TBR list.

142nrmay
Jun 26, 7:22pm Top

Has anyone mentioned Emergence by David R Palmer?

143wifilibrarian
Jul 21, 10:17pm Top

>140 Tobbi73: I quite liked The passage. I haven't attempted the sequel yet.

I've just finished The girl with all the gifts and if you liked the passage I think you'll love this. I'd recommend not learning to much about it before starting. Let the story unfold for you.

144johnnyapollo
Edited: Jul 22, 5:30am Top

I also liked the The Passage but thought less of The Twelve...

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