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1timspalding
Edited: Jun 24, 2009, 2:55am Top

2justjim
Jun 24, 2009, 3:07am Top

Very good, also 很好!

ps why doesn't the blog post show in "From the Blogs" on my home page?

3timspalding
Jun 24, 2009, 3:11am Top

It updates every 15 minutes, I think.

4justjim
Jun 24, 2009, 3:30am Top

And so it did. Thanks.

5GirlFromIpanema
Jun 24, 2009, 3:39am Top

Not wanting to be nitpicking, but... ;-)
My preferred language (and in consequence the language of reviews) is set to German. With IE 7, I cannot change the language of reviews. Detailed bug report at: http://www.librarything.com/topic/67326

6Bookmarque
Edited: Jun 24, 2009, 7:56am Top

Never mind. I asked a mind-numbingly stupid question. Oy vey. I have to get a job soon before my brain melts out my ears!!!

7lilithcat
Jun 24, 2009, 8:54am Top

Here's weirdness - My review of Howard Moss' Instant Lives was showing as being in Dutch. It's not. I don't even know Dutch!

I changed it, but still - it was odd!

8Papiervisje
Jun 24, 2009, 9:09am Top

>7 lilithcat: Don't know Dutch ?
Now there is a lack in your education ! ! !
Let's start with a popular word with tourists: Koffieshop (pronounced: Coffeeshop). A place where they sell lousy coffee and excellent Marihuana.

9FicusFan
Jun 24, 2009, 1:50pm Top


I just went to 2 books (on the book page) to look at reviews and don't see the new banner, either at the top or the bottom of the reviews. Where does the banner show up ?

10Nicole_VanK
Jun 24, 2009, 2:00pm Top

I agree with Papiervisje. LT clearly shows that Dutch is the second most important language worldwide ;-)

11FicusFan
Jun 24, 2009, 2:43pm Top

I found it, but it seems pretty useless for me. It is on the review page that lists all my books reviewed by other people. I have over 4,000 reviews.

Even sorted by title that list is too big to be worthwhile to use. If I want to know about a book, I go to the book page and look at the reviews there. Sorting out the foreign language reviews on the book page would be good.

Just looking at the English reviews on the review page is still over 3,000.

Also the numbers don't seem to match up.

English (3,887)
All languages (4,096)

Showing 1-30 of 3658

Shouldn't what it is showing me match either all reviews or the English ones (default) ?

12timspalding
Jun 24, 2009, 3:55pm Top

>9 FicusFan:

It's only there if it needs to be—if reviews are in more than one language. You saw it on the profile page because it applies. The two books you picked don't have more than one language going on.

13FicusFan
Jun 24, 2009, 4:05pm Top

You're right. I went to a translated book and it was there. But the counts are still odd. It says 3 in English, but only 1 shows up ? I couldn't get more by clicking on the English link.

http://www.librarything.com/work/596955/book/11787059

14AnnieMod
Jun 24, 2009, 4:39pm Top

Maybe the counter counts the reviews in the private libraries also? Just a thought

15timspalding
Jun 24, 2009, 5:32pm Top

Ah. Quite possible. Will check tonight.

16FicusFan
Jun 25, 2009, 8:37am Top

I went in this morning to see if the count for English reviews in #13 had been fixed. While there I thought I would look at all the reviews (says 6) to see how many English reviews there really were. I clicked on All Reviews, and nothing changed. I can't make any more reviews show at all for the book.

17AnnieMod
Jun 25, 2009, 9:06am Top

There are 5 private members so the 3 for English may actually contain 2 of those. Hopefully Tim will show up and say if he had a chance to check. If you click on any of the other language, the reviews in this language show up,

But the All reviews still filters by language and shows only the English ones, you are right about it :)

18timspalding
Jun 25, 2009, 9:40am Top

Sorry. Didn't fix it last night. I delivered a server from Maine to Boston and installed it. It took until 3am to get back...

19FicusFan
Edited: Jun 25, 2009, 11:22am Top

So shouldn't you have still been sleeping at 9:40 am ? Hope you don't have to take them 1 by 1, even if there aren't 700,000 of them.

20FicusFan
Edited: Jun 25, 2009, 2:21pm Top

I just checked the same book again. There has been an addition so now there are 7 reviews total.

It seemed too much of a coincidence to me that the 5 missing reviews just happened to belong to the 5 private users. So I went to look at the foreign language reviews. I clicked on the different languages, the reviews in that language show (Danish , German and French).

But All reviews still only shows 1 of the English reviews. If the 2 missing English reviews are real and private, perhaps you should create a private category and put them there ? otherwise the counts will look wrong when the private ones don't show. Or at least have a note that there are private reviews.

21AnnieMod
Edited: Jun 25, 2009, 3:18pm Top

I think that the private reviews just should be removed from the counting... (if this is really the reason for the missing reviews).

But why All reviews show only the English ones is a bit more mysterious :)

OK - this behaves differently on the bg site: http://bg.librarything.com/work/596955/book/11787059
The 7 are visible from the ALL Languages tab but the English again shows only 1. And all the 7 profiles are public. So I guess the reason for the whole thing is somewhere else...

22timspalding
Jun 25, 2009, 3:21pm Top

Sorry people. I'll fix this as soon as possible. I had to spend the day preparing for tonight's big move—and considering how last night went, sleeping. The site may be broken tomorrow, but it'll be fast and broken.

23AnnieMod
Jun 25, 2009, 3:24pm Top

Tim, I am just trying to help you find out what's going on - no grumbling on my part - just checking things here and reporting what I see. :)

24timspalding
Jun 25, 2009, 3:42pm Top

I think it's fixed.

25FicusFan
Jun 25, 2009, 3:45pm Top

Yeah just poking around and reporting what I find, not complaining.

26timspalding
Jun 25, 2009, 3:48pm Top

Not criticizing either. Just explaining.

27FicusFan
Jun 25, 2009, 4:29pm Top

Tried again. Same book #13

There are 3 reviews showing for English, but only 2 are. The third is this:

Ein sehr spannendes Buch, das sich unglaublich nah an der Realität bewegt.

German or Germanic ?

It doesn't show up as one of either the counted German or Danish reviews.

Also All Reviews still says 7, but only the English reviews show (2 English, 1 foreign)

28Nicole_VanK
Jun 25, 2009, 4:31pm Top

> 27 : German

29AnnieMod
Edited: Jun 25, 2009, 4:36pm Top

>27 FicusFan: - It's German but maybe the user had set it to English?

Matt beat me to saying which language it is - need to refresh before posting. :)

30FicusFan
Jun 25, 2009, 4:48pm Top


I just tried something. I thought maybe the default language setting of the user's library might be overriding the ability to show All Languages reviews. So I went and set my default to German. Looked at book 13, and it still only shows the 3 quasi-English reviews, and didn't change when I clicked on All Reviews. I stayed on .com site and didn't go to .de

31AnnieMod
Jun 25, 2009, 4:53pm Top

OK.
I can see all reviews properly when I am on the Bulgarian site (and on the German site)
When I am on the English one- I see the three English ones (although one of them is actually German), the 2 Danish, and the other 2 (the German and the French) but ALL Languages defaults to English and shows only the 3.

32jimroberts
Jun 25, 2009, 5:30pm Top

We get separate cookies for each site, eg Bulgarian, German or English, and maybe that is influencing which review languages we see when we switch.

33AnnieMod
Jun 25, 2009, 5:34pm Top

Deleted cookies and caches on all three sites - the language sites behave in the same way (the German and the Bulgarian - there is a German review but no Bulgarian and they still behave the same), the English one seem to be different...

34timspalding
Jun 25, 2009, 7:23pm Top

Someone explain to me what problem remains?

Yes, incidentally, what you see is based on (1) Your choice, (2) What's there, (3) What language you are on.

If you are on the Dutch site, and there's a Dutch review, it defaults that.
If you are on the Dutch site, and there isn't a Dutch review, it defaults to "All."
If you are on the Dutch site, but you have previously selected German, then it fails Germany -> All.

35FicusFan
Jun 25, 2009, 10:16pm Top

on the .com site the book in 13 says there are 7 reviews total. When you click on All Reviews it only shows the 3 English reviews, you can't get it to list all 7. The different languages do show when you click on them

In addition, the 3 English reviews are comprised of 2 English reviews and 1 German review. The German review listed as English is not the same as the German review listed as German (so there should be 2 total German reviews, and only 2 English reviews).

36infiniteletters
Jun 25, 2009, 10:51pm Top

35: Maybe there should be a way to flag a review as a particular language too?

37Nicole_VanK
Jun 26, 2009, 3:58am Top

> 34:

Okay - using FicusFan's example (http://www.librarything.com/work/596955/reviews):

I'm logged in from the .com site so it shows me English by default - that's fine.
But it shows one German review as in English.

And if I click "All Languages" it takes me back to those "English" reviews - not showing me the 2 Danish, 1 German, and 1 French.

38jimroberts
Edited: Jun 26, 2009, 4:10am Top

#37
That's exactly what I see for that work. It won't show me all seven at once. All Languages shows the three English (including the misclassified one by Shava-chan).

ETA: on the German site, it all works properly.

39AnnieMod
Jun 26, 2009, 5:11am Top

Tim,

When I am on the English site and press " All languages ", I do not see all 7 reviews but only the 3 English ones.
When I am on any other site, all is ok and I see the 7 reviews when I select All Languages - regardless if the is the BG site (no review in Bulgarian) or the DE one (there is a review in German).

>35 FicusFan:&37 - the German review showing up as English most likely has the language set to English. So I am not sure this is a bug at all.

40Nicole_VanK
Jun 26, 2009, 5:17am Top

> 39: Agreed, I'm not convinced that's a bug either. But just in case... Can't hurt to have Tim (or & Co.) taking a closer look.

41Nicole_VanK
Jun 26, 2009, 6:46am Top

Trying from the Dutch site gave me the exact same result by the way.

42FicusFan
Jun 26, 2009, 6:48am Top

It may not be a bug, but there should be a way to either assign a wrong review to the correct language, if known, or an unclassified group if you don't know. I understand the user can do their own, but if you find reviews that aren't yours and are wrong ?

43girlunderglass
Jun 26, 2009, 7:04am Top

>42 FicusFan: and maybe the user has abandoned LT or isn't using it enough to know about the different languages in reviews. I agree there should be a way for other users to assign the review to the correct language.

44AnnieMod
Jun 26, 2009, 7:11am Top

>41 Nicole_VanK: - same as from the English one? Or from the rest of the Language ones?

>42 FicusFan:&43 - yep, agree. We should be able to do something for these.

45Nicole_VanK
Jun 26, 2009, 7:23am Top

> 44: Sorry, same as from the English one.

46AnnieMod
Jun 26, 2009, 7:29am Top

Now this is weird - I just checked the Dutch site and i see the same as on the German and Bulgarian. What do you see if you go to the German site? Looks like the problem appears on your own language site (if there is at least one review in your language maybe? or there is something else into play) and on the English one....

47Nicole_VanK
Jun 26, 2009, 7:48am Top

You're right, this is getting weird. German site first wouldn't show me any reviews at all - but that changed after I manually altered the works address to include .de instead of .com too. Then it functioned fine.

(German site wouldn't let me post here though - which I think is weird too, but obviously a different problem).

Off to check some other variant sites in languages I understand well enough to navigate. And will recheck Dutch site - in case that was just some glitch.

48jimroberts
Jun 26, 2009, 7:52am Top

#47: BarkingMatt "German site wouldn't let me post"

Maybe you weren't logged in to the German site?

49Nicole_VanK
Jun 26, 2009, 7:55am Top

Oh yes I was, just like I'm now logged into the Italian site. No such problem here.

50Nicole_VanK
Jun 26, 2009, 8:01am Top

All other sites I visited (Danish, French, Italian, Spanish) worked just fine and problem didn't repeat on Dutch site either. Don't understand, but ah well....

(By the way, it's a bit unpractical that you have to manually adjust all those internet addresses, or get nothing at all.)

51AnnieMod
Jun 26, 2009, 8:06am Top

What do you mean adjust?
The German site is http://www.librarything.de or http://de.librarything.com which forwards to the first. What did you try?

(Posting from the German site by the way)

52Nicole_VanK
Jun 26, 2009, 8:19am Top

Yes, but using the link I put in #37 I ran into an empty recommendations page. I had to change it to librarything.de/work/etc. before it showed any reviews at all (similar for Danish, Spanish, French, Italian, etc.)

Can't understand why I couldn't post from the German site. It simply kept demanding that I signed in even though I was. Couldn't get through. None of the other language sites posed that problem.

53AnnieMod
Jun 26, 2009, 8:23am Top

Delete the cookies and the cache on the German site and start over?

http://www.librarything.com/work/596955/reviews is a link to the English site? Why should it go to the German one (or am I misunderstanding you?).

54Nicole_VanK
Jun 26, 2009, 8:27am Top

Correct, but I don't understand why that gives me an empty reviews page (instead of an English language one) when I approach it from the German / Danish / Dutch / Italian / French / Spanish sites. Maybe I'm just not tech enough though ;-)

55AnnieMod
Jun 26, 2009, 8:38am Top

You mean that if you are click on this link at this page when you are on one of the language sites, it shows a blank page instead of showing the real content ? It sounds like you have some major issues with your cookies and/or caches an/or whatever...

I just tried - clicked on it from the German site, it led me to the English site.

56Nicole_VanK
Jun 26, 2009, 8:57am Top

That's exactly what I mean. Okay, apparently that's on my side. So, signing off to mess with cookies & caches

57timspalding
Jun 27, 2009, 1:03am Top

Sorry. I think the problem is fixed.

58jimroberts
Jun 27, 2009, 3:10am Top

Works for me now.

59Nicole_VanK
Jun 27, 2009, 5:16am Top

Yes, it seems to be fixed. Thanks.

60FicusFan
Edited: Jun 27, 2009, 7:32am Top

Thanks Tim, it is fixed. There is still the problem though of the 3 English reviews. Its not a bug, but its still wrong. There are really 2 English Reviews and one German Review listed as English. How do we fix that ?

61jimroberts
Jun 27, 2009, 8:40am Top

"one German Review listed as English. How do we fix that ?"

Is this a power that we should be given, even if some of us want it? After the automatic initialisation of this piece of new information, it is for each of us a piece of their own personal catalog. Like the rest of our own data, it should remain inviolate. If today you can correct the language of my reviews, will you tomorrow want to correct my spelling? Reverse my obviously ill-considered opinions?

62FicusFan
Edited: Jun 27, 2009, 8:47am Top

Fine if you are still here, but it looks like the poster was last here in July 2008. What about abandoned accounts? And people change information in CK all the time that impacts other's books (series).

I don't care if 'we' are the ones to fix it, just that there is a mechanism to do so in a timely manner.
Whether a user entered it or it was an automatic classification, its wrong data and should be fixed. What is the point of having all this information capability if its populated with bad data ?

63jimroberts
Jun 27, 2009, 8:51am Top

There is no mechanism for correcting any other bad data in abandoned accounts. I suppose some sort of temporary power to change review language in clearly abandoned accounts might be defensible.

64FicusFan
Jun 27, 2009, 8:58am Top

Well there are other mechanisms to correct bad data from others whether they are here or not:

You can change or add to the series information
You can add or change Canonical Title
You can add or change Author Name
You can flag into hiding a review that isn't ($7.99, Hall Closet ...)

You can combine books that someone enters as a one off that isn't
You can uncombine books that are improperly joined together

The user may still keep their bad data in their Library, but its impact on the community is removed or lessened.

65Nicole_VanK
Jun 27, 2009, 9:02am Top

Also it needn't absolutely be a user power - though I could imagine Tim & Co. not wanting to do the cleanups on demand.

66jimroberts
Jun 27, 2009, 9:07am Top

All those things we can all change are CK and external to our personal catalogs.

67FicusFan
Jun 27, 2009, 9:14am Top

Yes. So is this.

I am not talking about changing the language of the account - which in this case looks like it should be German anyway. But of moving the review out of the wrong group count. I would think it should be moved to an unclassified or contested group, since not everyone who knows its not English may know what language it is. Even a way to get a certain number of flags to do it, so one person can't wreak havoc.

68jimroberts
Jun 27, 2009, 9:19am Top

"Yes. So is this. "

No it isn't. It's part of the review.

69FicusFan
Jun 27, 2009, 9:20am Top

No it isn't. Its an external feature added after the review was done.

70jimroberts
Jun 27, 2009, 9:24am Top

A new feature added after the review was done. That's why an attempt at intelligent initialisation was praiseworthy. From now on, we set the language when we write the review, and it's our own decision what language we want the review to count as.

71Nicole_VanK
Jun 27, 2009, 9:30am Top

it's our own decision what language we want the review to count as

Well, yes, I suppose so. But isn't this really supposed to be simple factual information? I mean, I could write in Dutch and claim it was Russian, but... So wouldn't we then need a flag for "wrong language" or something like that?

72jimroberts
Jun 27, 2009, 9:45am Top

"I could write in Dutch and claim it was Russian"
More realistically, you could write a mixture of Dutch and Russian and have what you think are good reasons for considering one of them primary.

73jimroberts
Jun 27, 2009, 9:46am Top

I think the consensus is against me, but I've expressed my objection to external interference with my choice of nominal language, so I'll leave it at that.

74FicusFan
Jun 27, 2009, 9:49am Top

But this isn't about saying what the language is, so much as what it isn't. The review is clearly not English. Neither would your Russian/Dutch mix be English. Since outsiders and those who don't read those languages have no way of knowing, an unclassified/contested category makes sense.

It makes LT look stupid when it comes up saying a review completely in German is English.

75infiniteletters
Jun 27, 2009, 10:43am Top

73/74: Maybe instead of a flag to change the language, a flag to change it to unset?

76timspalding
Jun 27, 2009, 11:23pm Top

I think we need a flag-language feature of some sort. It's a little tricky, though.

77lorax
Jun 28, 2009, 12:03am Top

64>

Well there are other mechanisms to correct bad data from others whether they are here or not:

You can change or add to the series information
You can add or change Canonical Title


True.

You can add or change Author Name

No you can't. If someone has an author name entered wrongly, no amount of changing will fix that. (This is part of why I've long wanted a "Canonical Author" by title.)

As an example, several people have Rockhound's Guide to California credited to Octavia E. Butler. This is wrong. Of the names listed as holding the book, one has it right, one is private, and one is abandoned (no activity since the first day they joined, and I left a profile comment six months ago mentioning the error, but it's still wrong). Nobody can fix this, unless more people add this obscure book with the correct author -- so a prolific author will forever have an incorrect book on her profile.

You can flag into hiding a review that isn't ($7.99, Hall Closet ...)

No, you can't. No number of blue flags will actually hide a non-review; the most they can do is move it down the list.

78FicusFan
Jun 28, 2009, 9:06am Top

No, you can't. No number of blue flags will actually hide a non-review; the most they can do is move it down the list.

Never seen a blue flag, only red. Red flags hide the review.

79Nicole_VanK
Jun 28, 2009, 9:08am Top

Red flags are for TOS violations only. Blue flags for "this is not a revue".

80PortiaLong
Edited: Jun 28, 2009, 9:28am Top

(OT reply to
>77 lorax: - re: rockhound's - I went to see if I could "float" correct author for you - but there were already enough correct entries in the system for the correct author to float on combining. Turns out that Amazon has the author wrong so I submitted a product update so future imports should be correct. - Feel free to post problem works in Combiners! some folks are pretty handy with just this sort of problem.)

Re: review language
- I agree that the review itself is personal data and should not be touched. The new feature assigning a "language" to old data - I don't think that it is unreasonable to be able to mark something as possibly the wrong language.

One possible thought - ability to hit an "unclassify" button - review owner gets automatic private comment that someone questioned the language - if they do nothing (which is what will happen if they are no longer active) it converts to unclassified. Otherwise they can re-confirm or re-set the language.

81FicusFan
Jun 28, 2009, 9:33am Top

> 79 Yes. But Red works and Blue doesn't. I don't really flag much myself, but its Red flags I see not Blue.

82Nicole_VanK
Jun 28, 2009, 9:40am Top

> 81 : Oh, I agree the functionaliy of blue flags sucks. I had a few in the past (when I was new to LT I accidentally put some comments in the reviews field) and I would have liked to have been notified I was doing it wrong.

But this is why lorax was correct in stating that you can't flag a review into hiding - as long as you use the intended flag.

83FicusFan
Jun 28, 2009, 9:46am Top

> 80 thank you for combining the book with the right author. I got it separated from the main OEB, and combined with GAB, but couldn't get it out of the OEB fragment.

84timspalding
Jun 28, 2009, 1:02pm Top

if they do nothing (which is what will happen if they are no longer active) it converts to unclassified. Otherwise they can re-confirm or re-set the language.

The problem there is that "unclassified" shows up as "English" in the reviews UI. When the member looks at his books, he can see the difference, but it doesn't show up in the list of languages. With about 1/7 of reviews unclassified—mostly because they're short or even just a URL—the "unclassified" language would be rather prominent, and about 95% are English anyway.

85jimroberts
Jun 28, 2009, 1:37pm Top

#84: timspalding "The problem there is that "unclassified" shows up as "English" in the reviews UI."

Not so much the problem as your problem :)
If you aren't yourself King of the UI, you can tell the Duke of UI to change it.

86timspalding
Jun 28, 2009, 1:39pm Top

Ha. But I agree with the UI.

87jimroberts
Edited: Jun 28, 2009, 1:43pm Top

Not a problem then :)

But how about showing the unclassifieds not just as English, but with every language. OK, there's the problem of how to count — I'll let you solve that.

88FicusFan
Jun 28, 2009, 2:32pm Top

How about just those that are flagged and not fixed by their posters showing as unclassified ? That way the majority will be English, but those that are obviously wrong will be separated.

89lorax
Jun 28, 2009, 2:54pm Top

80>

I've actually done a fair bit of Combining, thanks, and don't need to be treated like a total newbie. I'd worked on this one months ago and couldn't get it to float at the time.

90PortiaLong
Jun 28, 2009, 4:18pm Top

>89 lorax: I'm sorry if you feel affronted by my attempt to help. I don't presume that I know all the in-and-outs of every single feature of LT despite the fact that I myself am not a "total newbie" - I learn new twists everyday, so I don't expect all "old-hands" to be equally familiar with all LT's little quirks.

The fact that you cited incorrect author assignment as something that was not fixable, i.e. you wrote "Nobody can fix this, unless more people add this obscure book with the correct author -- so a prolific author will forever have an incorrect book on her profile." implied to me that you were unaware that it could, in fact, be fixed. If someone else, say a "total newbie," came along and read this they might not realize that these type of problems can be legitimately brought to the Combiners! group for "fixing".

(I may, I admit, have been unclear in my reply since, for the example you gave, no "float" was actually required, just a "combining").

>84 timspalding:/86 - Ha! I should have known it was one of those "computer-y" type problems.

91jimroberts
Jun 28, 2009, 4:58pm Top

#90: PortiaLong " Ha! I should have known it was one of those "computer-y" type problems."

When it's a UI-y type problem, we can discuss it, and it's not unknown for Tim to change his mind.

92Nicole_VanK
Edited: Jun 28, 2009, 5:04pm Top

I guess, but it's all Geek to me. ;-)

93bnielsen
Jun 29, 2009, 4:38am Top

Really nice feature. Language was correctly guessed in 3/4 of my reviews and I've converted the rest. I noticed that "Auto-change English reviews" changed all the Unset ones. So PowerEdit of review languages seems broken, but I've changed my 2 Norwegian and 10 English by hand, so I don't really care :-)

94PhoenixTerran
Jun 29, 2009, 8:28am Top

This is a great feature--it's wonderful to see LT trying to be more accessible and useful for non-English users.

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet or not: When on my review page, it automatically has English reviews selected. But, when I click the link to view another language or all languages, the sort changes from whatever I had it on to date with the arrow pointing up (reverse date?). Not a huge deal, but annoying to have to resort each time and wait for the column to reload.

95lorax
Jun 29, 2009, 12:26pm Top

90>

It was mostly your tone. I always assume people know what they're doing and what they're talking about -- and in this case would have said something like "It looks like more people have in fact added the book since you looked at it". Before I explained something so very basic I certainly would have looked at the profile of who I was responding to -- in which case you'd have seen I'm a member of Combiners and have a gold Combining badge. It just seems that a minimal level of politeness is "Don't treat someone like an idiot". I've been Combining since the feature was introduced. I don't hang out much on the "Fix this book" thread, largely because it's horridly inconvenient (nobody bothers to distinguish between trivially fixable issues and those requiring either clever Firebug URL-manipulation or adding fake books to your library), but I'm quite familiar with the concept. You seemed to think I'd never even heard of Combiners.

96jjprofits5
Aug 6, 2009, 10:06pm Top

maybe i will use google translation to understand Dutch..

97MarthaJeanne
Edited: Aug 11, 2009, 2:07am Top

Is there any way to mark reviews we come on that are not in the language they are listed as?

http://www.librarything.com/work/538/reviews/29268518

There are two reviews in with the English here that aren't.

(And one in 'Dutch' that is English.)

98jimroberts
Edited: Aug 11, 2009, 2:41am Top

#97: MarthaJeanne

See #76 (above): timspalding "I think we need a flag-language feature of some sort. It's a little tricky, though."

99PhoenixTerran
Edited: Aug 11, 2009, 8:32am Top

I find it interesting that I currently have a review in my reviewed by others list with "Thingamabraian (the ideal language)" as the associated language.

edited for clarification

100Nicole_VanK
Aug 11, 2009, 7:54am Top

Wow. I'm jealous!

101sqdancer
Aug 11, 2009, 10:37am Top

>99 PhoenixTerran:

Presumably that user has Thingamabraian set as their primary language in their profile.

102jimroberts
Aug 11, 2009, 2:17pm Top

Thingamabraian is one of the offered languages in the pull-down list for review language, so we can all use it.

103PhoenixTerran
Aug 12, 2009, 8:42am Top

Has the bug mentioned in 94 been looked at? It's still happening for me, and is rather annoying.

104FicusFan
Aug 12, 2009, 11:02am Top

> 103, don't think its a bug, thats how they have sort working. People complain about it all the time, because it does the same in the catalog.

105timspalding
Aug 12, 2009, 1:02pm Top

They're quite unrelated. Nor is that true. In the catalog, if you sort by something, and then select a subset, like a tag, it keeps the sort you were on.

106PhoenixTerran
Aug 12, 2009, 1:13pm Top

105> So, is it supposed to re-sort on its own when on the profile reviews page?

107timspalding
Aug 12, 2009, 1:30pm Top

I can see it either way, but, yeah, on balance I think it shouldn't.

108FicusFan
Aug 12, 2009, 5:22pm Top

But when you sort it always sorts backwards (oldest first) and then you have to change it. People do complain about it all the time.

109timspalding
Aug 12, 2009, 9:18pm Top

The reviews sort newest first wherever reviews appear.

Books sort first to last, like everything else you can sort by—sort by date, and it sorts 1950 before 1960. Before, when I flipped ascending and descending, users complained it worked differently than everything else.

110PhoenixTerran
Aug 13, 2009, 8:25am Top

109>The reviews sort newest first wherever reviews appear.

But that's not what's happening when you select a new language on the profile reviews page. No matter what your current sort is, it changes to oldest review first once you click a language.

111jjmcgaffey
Aug 13, 2009, 7:05pm Top

109> I don't really care on the catalog page - two clicks or one, the difference is minimal. But when I'm on the Home page and click Recently Added, that link _should_ sort newest first right off - it's annoying that it takes the time to load the library and what shows is my oldest books. I suspect that it was created to do normal sort at a time when normal sort was newest first - now it needs to sort reversed. Please?

112infiniteletters
Aug 13, 2009, 9:36pm Top

111: Pretty please?

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