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Jun 29, 2009, 4:34pm (top)Message 1: elik82

I have just finished reading Wilt.
It was absolutely one of the funniest book I've ever read.
This is the kind of books I really enjoy reading when I'm looking for a good laugh.
Another example is The inimitable Jeeves I recently read.
I'm not familiar with many British authors so I'd love to get some recommendations.
If you share this feeling, do you know other books to add to this list?

Jun 29, 2009, 4:50pm (top)Message 2: jimroberts

You might get suggestions by posting also in BritWit, though I expect the members watch this group too.

Message edited by its author, Jun 29, 2009, 4:50pm.

Jun 29, 2009, 5:31pm (top)Message 3: mrkurtz

If you are talking just about British authors or books from England, the list below was tabulated by Abebooks at the website: http://www.abebooks.com/books/funniest-b... The Top 10 Funniest Books According to AbeBooks.co.uk Customers:
1.Right Ho, Jeeves by P.G. Wodehouse (1933)
2.Catch-22 by Joseph Heller (1961)
3.The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams (1979)
4.Three Men in a Boat by Jerome K Jerome (1889)
5.Wilt by Tom Sharpe (1976)
6.A Confederacy of Dunces by John Kennedy Toole (1980)
7.Lucky Jim by Kingsley Amis
8.The Code of the Woosters by P.G. Wodehouse (1938)
9.Bridget Jones's Diary by Helen Fielding (1996)
10.Adolf Hitler: My Part in His Downfall by Spike Milligan (1971)
Joseph Heller, Douglas Adams and John Kennedy Toole appropriately made the list as Americans but there are several authors from the U.S. in the 1910's -1940's that I would rate as equals to Wodehouse including James Thurber, Ring Lardner and Damon Runyon.

Jun 29, 2009, 6:03pm (top)Message 4: AHS-Wolfy

Stephen Fry has written a couple of novels that are pretty good. I'd also like to mention Christopher Brookmyre as you specified British rather than just English. The Jack Parlabane books are cracking reads though some of the Scottish dialogue might need an interpreter. Someone I haven't tried yet but am wanting to is Colin Bateman as he's been getting some good reports recently. Another that you might not immediately think of is Nick Hornby.

Jun 30, 2009, 5:43am (top)Message 5: elik82

These are great advices.
Thanks people!

Jun 30, 2009, 6:51am (top)Message 6: reading_fox

YOu can always try a tag search for Humour rather than the USians humor. the tags are ket seperated just to preserve the difference between US and UK writings.

Jun 30, 2009, 10:06am (top)Message 7: emaestra

He's more along the lines of Bridget Jones than Jeeves, but I laughed out loud quite a bit to Mil Millington's Things My Girlfriend and I Have Argued About. The other stuff of his that I have read is pretty funny too.

Jun 30, 2009, 11:34am (top)Message 8: MyopicBookworm

More Tom Sharpe, such as Porterhouse Blue, would be an obvious recommendation. And have you tried Terry Pratchett's The Colour of Magic?

Message edited by its author, Jun 30, 2009, 11:36am.

Jun 30, 2009, 12:06pm (top)Message 9: Booksloth

Cold Comfort Farm
Sea Otters Gambolling in the Wild, Wild Surf
The Diary of a Nobody
Letters From a Fainthearted Feminist
And I second the Stephen Fry thing.
And don't forget Jane Austen - she's good for a laugh as well as romance.

EY fix BIG typo!

Message edited by its author, Jun 30, 2009, 12:09pm.

Jun 30, 2009, 1:20pm (top)Message 10: arubabookwoman

David Lodge is very funny. I especially liked Therapy and Nice Work.

Jun 30, 2009, 1:59pm (top)Message 11: thorold

There's a huge amount. Apart from all the things mentioned above, you might be interested in Evelyn Waugh's early novels (Decline and Fall, Scoop, etc., up to but not including Brideshead) - the same sort of black humour as Tom Sharpe, if a bit less outrageous.

In the field of campus fiction, Malcolm Bradbury goes very well with David Lodge (and was a colleague of W.G. Sebald...). The History Man and Stepping Westward are the funniest. Michael Carson's Benson novels fall into this category too.

On the more Jane-Austenish gentle irony side, Barbara Pym is excellent, as are E.F. Benson's Mapp and Lucia novels. Ronald Firbank is a bit like Benson, but a hundred times camper - probably too camp for most people.

The late John Mortimer's Rumpole stories send up the English legal system with a great deal of affection.

If you want to follow the Douglas Adams direction, then Terry Pratchett and Jasper Fforde are the most obvious paths to follow.

Other Immortal Classics, which you won't necessarily find funny but many people do, include Zuleika Dobson (still the leading undergraduate-mass-suicide-comic-novel after a hundred years), England, their England (a very funny description of a cricket match and a lot of depressing post-WWI-angst), Three men in a boat and Three men on the Bummel (alternately hilarious and tediously purple), The Pickwick Papers, Whisky Galore, The secret diary of Adrian Mole ...

...but why bother trying new writers when there are more than 90 books by P.G. Wodehouse? :-)

Jun 30, 2009, 3:25pm (top)Message 12: elik82

I must admit that's a good point.
But still, it's good to know there's such a vast and amusing choice.

Jun 30, 2009, 3:56pm (top)Message 13: Booksloth

And thanks to thorold for the mention of Pickwick Papers. It's easilly forgotten how funny Dickens was at his best. Dombey and Son is another one that particularly hit my funny bone but you can take your pick really.

Jun 30, 2009, 4:14pm (top)Message 14: donsturzo

Thanks for these great advices!
One of my favourite british authors is Wiliam Boyd - and his Stars and Bars is really hilarious.

Jun 30, 2009, 4:46pm (top)Message 15: thorold

>13
I think we'll have to do a separate thread on Victorians-who-are-still-funny, otherwise poor Elik will be altogether swamped with suggestions!

Jun 30, 2009, 5:59pm (top)Message 16: Jodyreadseverything

#14 I love William Boyd, have you read Brazzaville Beach? That's my favourite of his. Wouldn't call it funny but would call it an absolutely absorbing, gripping book.

Jul 1, 2009, 5:44am (top)Message 17: elik82

Dear Thorold,
Thanks for the consideration :)
Now I have another question:
Do you think those still-funny-Victorians will be indeed funny for readers such as myself for whom English is not a mother tongue?
I admit I never tried reading those books becase I imagined their homour and language will not be accessible enough.
I mean that in Wilt there must have been funny things I failed to notice due to my partial familiarity with British culture, so I imagine it is even more so with Victorian-era writers?

Message edited by its author, Jul 1, 2009, 5:51am.

Jul 1, 2009, 7:42am (top)Message 18: aluvalibri

#17> elik82, I am not a native speaker of English, but I find them VERY funny!

Jul 1, 2009, 8:21am (top)Message 19: amberwitch

Ben Elton writes som pretty funny novels - though a bit light. Popcorn is about a reality show, and involves both a male rock star turned supermom and the heir to the british throne - prince Charles? as well as a myriad of other weird characters. He is the writer of the book/movieMaybe Baby as well as tv shows like Mr. Bean and Blackadder.

Jul 1, 2009, 9:24am (top)Message 20: stephmo

the tags are ket seperated just to preserve the difference between US and UK writings.

Actually, that's not the reason. A humour can refer to one of the four humours in medicine (black bile, yellow bile, phlegm, and blood). The tags are kept separate in case someone has tagged a book humour to refer to the medical aspect and not the funny ha-ha aspect.

Jul 1, 2009, 12:27pm (top)Message 21: thorold

>17,18

I think it's very difficult to generalise about. If you haven't read 19th century writers (in whatever language) before, then at the beginning you'll obviously find some unfamiliar words and cultural references that trip you up, but that's a problem for native speakers too: some people find it easy to get past that hurdle and others don't. If the humour depends on very specific social or political allusions, then you might find it hard to see the jokes (e.g. Punch, and some of Trollope's novels), but most of the time Victorian humour is about much more basic things we can all laugh at, like vanity, folly, greed and social pretension (early Dickens, most of Thackeray, Surtees, etc.).

If you're not sure, Project Gutenberg is an easy way to look at a chapter or two and see how you get on before committing to a whole book.

Jul 1, 2009, 12:37pm (top)Message 22: MerryMary

thorold: That is a brilliant suggestion. Wish I'd thought of it!

Jul 1, 2009, 1:05pm (top)Message 23: Booksloth

You also have to bear in mind that a lot of Victorian English humour is based on satire (and quite a bit of the modern stuff too). Jane Austen, in particular, derives most of her humour from gently poking fun at the society she lives in. The best one of hers to start with is Northanger Abbey where the humour is a little more obvious than in many of her other books. Cold Comfort Farm by Stella Gibbons is in a similar vein. Dickens, on the other hand, puts a lot of humour into his descriptions, as at the beginning of Dombey and Son where he described the baby sleeping in front of the fire 'as if his constitution were analagous to that of a muffin, and it was essential to toast him brown while he was very new' There are times when you may not be sure whether a book or passage is actually supposed to be funny until you get more used to it; give it the benefit of the doubt and you might find it even funnier than it was meant to be!

Thorold's suggestion is quite brilliant of course. I wish I'd thought of it too.

Jul 1, 2009, 1:15pm (top)Message 24: thorold

> analagous to that of a muffin

There's a cultural reference that would be lost on a lot of non-British readers! :-)

Jul 1, 2009, 1:59pm (top)Message 25: Booksloth

Ah yes - (real) muffins (as eaten in England) and 'English' muffins (as eaten in America! It's a funny thing, language.

Jul 1, 2009, 2:02pm (top)Message 26: BookMarkMe

Another vote for some of Stephen Fry's work............I can hear him speaking through his prose, even in a dry old topic such as The Ode less Travelled

Jul 1, 2009, 2:22pm (top)Message 27: PossMan

#24:What do you mean lost on a lot of non-British readers. It's lost on many of those as well. When I was at school in Bury (Lancashire) remember going out to the local "corner shop" and getting a tuppeny buttered muffin. And when many years later in the 1970s asked for a muffin in Tetbury (Gloucestershire) and was told they were "out of season". And for most the muffin/teacake distinction is pretty obscure although I'd be hard put to put it into words myself. Up here in Inverness (Scotland) you might as well ask for Jovian cuisine.

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