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1sonyagreen
Edited: Nov 20, 2009, 6:42pm Top

That's right, SantaThing is back, better than ever, now with indie booksellers! and more countries! (Blog post.)

What is SantaThing? It's our way of playing Secret Santa with other LibraryThing members. Basically, you pay $25. You'll get the name of another member, and then you pick out $20 worth of books for them. Someone else will be doing the same for you. LibraryThing buys the books, pays the shipping, and everyone gets a fun holiday surprise.

And anyone can go ahead and suggest books to give to the people signed up!

Sign up here:
http://www.librarything.com/santathing.php

This thread is for any questions or comments. Since we added the ability to choose between booksellers, there maaaay be some bugs.

2Larxol
Edited: Nov 20, 2009, 8:04pm Top

Welcome back, SantaThing. I came across a photo of books flying out from SantaThing headquarters up North (or down East):


3lorax
Nov 20, 2009, 8:20pm Top

Is the picking for where we want our Santa to get us books from, or for where we want to get them from as Santa for our recipient?

Um, that wasn't clear. If I say "Powell's", does that mean I want my Santa to pick out my books from Powell's? Or that I want to pick out books at Powell's for whoever I'm Santa for?

4_Zoe_
Edited: Nov 20, 2009, 8:23pm Top

>3 lorax: I assume the former.

For orders in Canada, are you making any adjustments for the exchange rate/cost of books? (While the Canadian dollar has gone up, the cost of books hasn't declined quite as rapidly. I'd pay extra if necessary rather than have my Santa left with extremely limited options.)

edit: and this is one of the reasons I'd like the option of the Book Depository, priced in USD.

5sonyagreen
Nov 20, 2009, 8:23pm Top

Ah, when you pick the bookseller, you're picking for your preference. "Where do you want your books purchased?" would be another way to say it.

6_Zoe_
Nov 20, 2009, 8:31pm Top

Can we make changes after we sign up? I haven't decided on my address or even country yet.

7_Zoe_
Nov 20, 2009, 8:43pm Top

Oh, I found the answer to my first question under Choosing a Bookseller. I think I'd still prefer to have books shipped slowly from the Book Depository, so that my Santa isn't restricted to books that have come out in the past couple of years (after the exchange rate and cost of books improved).

Otherwise, I'm tempted to choose the US option, in which case I wouldn't see my books until the middle of January anyway.

8sonyagreen
Nov 20, 2009, 8:47pm Top

>4 _Zoe_: We're adding Book Depository for Canada.

>6 _Zoe_: You have to put in a country and address, but you'll be able to edit and make changes until we close the sign-up.

9_Zoe_
Nov 20, 2009, 8:52pm Top

Yay, thanks! :D

10_Zoe_
Nov 20, 2009, 9:50pm Top

I just noticed that someone said "No e-books" in their SantaThing description--does this not go without saying?

11timspalding
Nov 20, 2009, 10:05pm Top

Sonya, can you add "no ebooks" are the default. Obviously, if someone WANTS ebooks...

12sonyagreen
Nov 20, 2009, 10:07pm Top

Oh, 2009, you bring about such interesting challenges.

I'm going to add it to the lists of no-nos (on the signup page). For this year, we're going to stick to dead trees.

Next year, I'm sure we'll have to address it. We'd have to also document the type of ereader, and I don't know how it'd be much of a surprise, since you'd get an email right away when we ordered it.

Anyway, no ebooks this year. If you only buy ebooks now, I'd be interested in hearing. I'm assuming at least for now, people still want at least some of their books in paper.

13_Zoe_
Nov 20, 2009, 10:26pm Top

I edited my information because my line breaks had disappeared, and now the Book Depository option is gone?

14_Zoe_
Nov 20, 2009, 10:29pm Top

Also, the information at the top says you only ship to the US, UK, and Canada.

15timspalding
Nov 20, 2009, 10:29pm Top

If someone WANTS ebooks, maybe. The problem is, it's not easy to buy someone ebooks. It's like buying them shoes.

16Lman
Nov 20, 2009, 10:38pm Top

Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU for letting everyone (as much as possible) in so many more countries (than before) to join in this year!
I don't care how long it takes for me to get a book - as long as I have a chance to give one too.

and yes... a dead tree book.

17Phlox72
Nov 20, 2009, 10:43pm Top

I don't understand the form. Do i put the recipint as myself, and then afterwards somebody will be assigned as my secret santa, while I'll be assigned to be someone else's. I'm a bit confused about the recipient part of the form.

Also I know I see my country listed (trinidad and Tobago) but I want to make sure that there will be no problems because i'm outside the US, UK and Canada.

BTW, Sorry if this post is a little random sounding, I've taken sleeping meds and they slow my thinking down...so sorry again.

18sonyagreen
Edited: Nov 20, 2009, 10:48pm Top

>13 _Zoe_:, 14 fixing - the sign-up page is a bit broken. If you can hold of signing up for a sec, we'll have it fixed.

19_Zoe_
Nov 20, 2009, 10:48pm Top

Thank you!

20sonyagreen
Nov 20, 2009, 10:48pm Top

>17 Phlox72: Right. You sign yourself up. We'll randomly assign a Secret Santa to you later, once the sign-up closes.

We'll send you a profile message telling you who your Secret Santa is. You'll come back to the SantaThing page, and you'll be able to pick books for your Santa (it'll tell you on the page who your Santa is too). We use the same page for sign-up as for picking. It morphs once we close sign-up, into picking.

There's no problem with your country as long as its listed on the Book Depository site, since that's who your Santa will be using to choose your books. The sign-up page is broken right now, and will be fixed in a jiffy, thanks to Mike.

21ltmike
Nov 20, 2009, 10:53pm Top

Everything got reverted back to an older broken version of the page. Sorry everyone. Should be back up to normal now. I'll keep an eye out here in case there's any more fallout. -Mike

22_Zoe_
Nov 20, 2009, 10:56pm Top

Thanks for the quick fix!

23sonyagreen
Nov 20, 2009, 11:01pm Top

If you want to be fretful about it, you can check your sign-up, and make sure the right info is there.

24_Zoe_
Nov 20, 2009, 11:05pm Top

If you want to be fretful about it, you can check your sign-up, and make sure the right info is there.

Done :)

The sign-up page still shows this message, though:

Please note that the recipient must live in the US, Canada or Britain.

25Lman
Nov 20, 2009, 11:16pm Top

It doesn't for me Zoe - but then I signed up successfully when it was supposedly broken???

26_Zoe_
Nov 20, 2009, 11:22pm Top

Is there a difference between the edit page and the initial sign-up page?

Also, I think Canadian books should probably be purchased from bookdepository.com rather than bookdepository.co.uk, though I'm not sure entirely what the difference is.

27PhaedraB
Nov 20, 2009, 11:24pm Top

20>

I'm confused -- how is it a Secret Santa if you know who your Santa is?

28jjwilson61
Nov 20, 2009, 11:26pm Top

We'll send you a profile message telling you who your Secret Santa is. You'll come back to the SantaThing page, and you'll be able to pick books for your Santa (it'll tell you on the page who your Santa is too). We use the same page for sign-up as for picking. It morphs once we close sign-up, into picking.

I'm afraid this is a bit confusing. The usual usage, I think, is that the Secret Santa is the person who sends the presents. What you mean above is the opposite, the person to who(m) the Secret Santa sends the gifts. I don't know of a term for that.

29_Zoe_
Nov 20, 2009, 11:29pm Top

Speaking of secrets and lack thereof, is it currently possible for us to see comments on our own pages?

30MerryMary
Nov 20, 2009, 11:43pm Top

What we have is the Santee (receiver) and the Santar (the giver). Each participant plays both roles.

As the Santee, you register and post some notes about what you'd like (or would not like). After the sign-up is closed, TPTB (sonya, probably) assigns each Santee to another participant - heretofore known as the Santar. You, as the Santar, chose gift books for your assigned Santee (while another Santar does the same for you), and tell sonya/abby what books to order.

As the Santee, you receive your gift books sometime around Christmas and then (and only then) you find out who your Santar was.

Simple, isn't it??

31ltmike
Nov 21, 2009, 12:01am Top

26> It's the same page. -Mike

32katieinseattle
Nov 21, 2009, 12:43am Top

Are recipients in fact chosen at random? I'm worried I'd be terrible at picking for someone with wildly different tastes to mine. Also, is there any way to see all of someone's Talk posts (to find out more about their tastes)?

33MerryMary
Nov 21, 2009, 12:52am Top

Look at their libraries, and their comments on the SantaThing page.

34katieinseattle
Edited: Nov 21, 2009, 1:29am Top

I realize that -- it's just hard to pick good, say, historical romance or something, when this is a genre I read not at all and know nothing about.

35MerryMary
Edited: Nov 21, 2009, 1:21am Top

I understand. With any luck someone will chime in with some suggestions. In the meantime, cross your fingers and hope for a good match! ;-)

Another idea might be to find somebody else on here with similar tastes, and ask them for a recommendation. I bet that would work.

36sqdancer
Edited: Nov 21, 2009, 1:24am Top

One thing that can help is suggestions from other LTers. I know I made a few suggestions for several people who I either "knew" or who seemed to read the same kind of stuff that I do.

ETA: I type too slowly!

37katieinseattle
Nov 21, 2009, 1:31am Top

I'll just cross my fingers I don't get someone who wants sparkly vampire romances, I guess. (Also it's way less fun to pick books that I know I would hate. Oh well, I'll get over it :))

38MerryMary
Nov 21, 2009, 1:35am Top

I so agree. I never thought about sparkly vampires. *shudder*

39TheoClarke
Nov 21, 2009, 8:24am Top

There is probably an entire thread to be written on "what do you give a sparkly vampire fan when you don't approve of such things?"

41sonyagreen
Nov 21, 2009, 10:23am Top

I took out the "US, Canada and UK only" bit on the sign-up page. It was a ghost of SantaThing past.

I'm going to go get on a plane to Iowa, but Mike's looking out for SantaThing, so if you see any problems this morning (or ever really), post them here and we'll see them.

42skittles
Nov 21, 2009, 12:59pm Top

Question: What about those people who can only have their packages sent to a Post Office Box? Can we participate? I cannot get UPS packages, which is how Amazon delivers... Does Powells do USPS? even media mail is fine.

43sonyagreen
Nov 21, 2009, 3:00pm Top

>42 skittles: Good question. You could check all the sites available to you (since your options depend on your country), and see which ones would be able to ship to you.

I'd like to add this information to the bookseller page once the information is found, but I don't have time to do it now.

Anyone want to look up the options, grab the appropriate link, and post them here? I know for Book Depository, it says how they ship on the same page as the list of countries.

(I'm currently at the Detroit airport, and about to get on another plane.)

44silentq
Nov 21, 2009, 6:24pm Top

Since I live 3 miles from my local bookseller, I was wondering if it would be possible to have my Secret Santa books left for pickup?

45sonyagreen
Nov 21, 2009, 10:33pm Top

>44 silentq: We're not using all local bookseller (at least not this year). There's a list of booksellers available here.

Members who live near Harvard Book Store in Cambridge MA, or near The Book Table in Oak Park IL could leave a note in their signup that they'd like to pick up the books locally, but those are the only indie sellers who we can do that with.

46sonyagreen
Nov 22, 2009, 12:00pm Top

I'm getting a little teary reading this thread on SantaThing benefactors offering entrance to SantaThing for those who otherwise can't afford it.

So, let's use that thread as the organization. If you're interested in being a Santa+, and pay for others to do SantaThing, mention it in the thread. Perhaps you could edit your post once you've found an 'adoptee', so we know how many slots are open.

If you'd like to participate in SantaThing but can't afford it this year, check the thread. It looks like you can privately message the people offering, if you don't want to post openly on the thread.

Also, I want to tell you all how much I love my job. I am LOVING setting up SantaThing, and this is like four or five feet of icing on the cake. (Let's go with metaphorical cake.)

47Donogh
Nov 22, 2009, 2:22pm Top

Thanks to Sonya et al for putting in the effort to expand this to a truly international programme this year (and for all the effort you'll take over the next month dong this!)

48Lman
Nov 22, 2009, 9:46pm Top

What Donogh said ..with even more icing on the cake!
I can't tell you how excited I am that I can participate this year.
THANK YOU!

49bookbutterfly
Nov 23, 2009, 12:53pm Top

I'd love to participate, but being a single mom of three that was laid off last year and finally found a job (with a huge pay cut) - I am not able. Unfortunately, I'm finding it difficult to provide Christmas for my kids. If I haven't come in too late, I'd love to participate if there's any spots still open. :-)

Thank you!
Shilo

50Nicole_VanK
Nov 23, 2009, 1:23pm Top

51brigneti
Nov 23, 2009, 2:14pm Top

The Book Depository doesn't ship to my country :(
Maybe someday it will...

52infiniteletters
Nov 23, 2009, 2:45pm Top

Are there any major bookstores that would ship to Peru?

53AnnieMod
Nov 23, 2009, 3:16pm Top

Amazon seems to be doing it for $4.99 per shipment + $4.99 per book ( http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_navbox_596184_tips?no... ).

54MaidMeri
Nov 23, 2009, 4:34pm Top

I went to edit my sign-up form and noticed that the linebreaks (not HTML ones, just plain ole enter-induced ones) had disappeared from the address field. Will that be a problem? Should I put them down in HTML or separate lines with commas or something?

55KLmesoftly
Nov 23, 2009, 8:05pm Top

>54 MaidMeri: I used html. (br) with karats instead of parentheses.

56brigneti
Nov 24, 2009, 12:48am Top

>53 AnnieMod: Yes, Amazon sends but it's kind of expensive. It's been a few years since I've had books shipped here from Amazon...

57AnnieMod
Edited: Nov 24, 2009, 3:31am Top

>56 brigneti:
It's just a bit cheaper to here ($3.99+$3.99) so I know what you mean. Although it kinda works if you put more books in the same package (depending on the import laws though - sometimes you need to pay some tax for packages over a value). It's good that BookDepository delivers here. :)

58AnnieMod
Nov 24, 2009, 3:41am Top

>brigneti

I will be out of the country until the 20th of December but you do not mind getting your books late, you can register with my address and I will forward you the book(s) once I get my hands on them. If you do not want to wait, I suspect that someone else will play Santa in a similar way. It's the holidays after all - noone should be excluded.

59anglemark
Nov 24, 2009, 6:32am Top

I'm sure this question has been answered somewhere, but if I am assigned someone who'll get their gift from Book Depository (who charge no postage), why do they only get books for $20?

60MaidMeri
Nov 24, 2009, 6:47am Top

>55 KLmesoftly: Great, thanks. I'll do that too. :)

61crazybatcow
Nov 24, 2009, 9:55am Top

When you find out who your santar is, you only get their user id from LT, correct? (ie., not their name and addy).

62christiguc
Edited: Nov 24, 2009, 9:57am Top

>61 crazybatcow: correct (at least in the past times)

63AnnieMod
Nov 24, 2009, 10:04am Top

>61 crazybatcow:

That's the idea - you just choose the books, LT do the ordering and sees the addresses.

64calm
Nov 24, 2009, 11:21am Top

How do I know if I managed to sign up?

I filled in the form and hit submit but nothing seemed to happen.

65infiniteletters
Nov 24, 2009, 11:36am Top

64: I don't see your username on the list.
http://www.librarything.com/santathing.php

66calm
Edited: Nov 24, 2009, 12:00pm Top

I better try again then.

Edit to add - I managed that time!

67sonyagreen
Nov 24, 2009, 12:57pm Top

>52 infiniteletters: Unfortunately, Peru is not on the list (for this year).

For anyone in a country not on the list, the other SantaThing thread for those who want to help out other Santas has a some members who are willing to have the books shipped to them, and will forward the books on to you.

>54 MaidMeri: Strange about the line breaks disappearing. I'll check with Mike.

68jjwilson61
Nov 24, 2009, 5:55pm Top

67> You should check with cD. He's been messing with limiting HTML in various places to foil spammers.

69leahbird
Nov 24, 2009, 8:18pm Top

anglemark
I'm sure this question has been answered somewhere, but if I am assigned someone who'll get their gift from Book Depository (who charge no postage), why do they only get books for $20?

i would guess all remaining $5 from everyone goes into a shipping pool, regardless of whether your actual books have a shipping charge. but that's just my guess.

70guido47
Edited: Nov 24, 2009, 8:24pm Top

Is there a simpler way? ie. I just want to be an anonymous santa and not even pick the recepient. I don't want a gift in return.
I know it misses the fun of choosing the gift but it would avoid this seemingly
closed circuit loop.
Sorry I have not expressed myself well, still have the flu and can't THIMK
at all.

71clamairy
Nov 24, 2009, 9:00pm Top

#70 - Go here, guido47, and follow Sonya's instructions.

http://www.librarything.com/topic/77517#1618372

You can pay for someone else and not have to pick out anything. You can contact Sonya and send her the payment code and then you won't have to even know who the gift is going to.

72sonyagreen
Nov 24, 2009, 11:53pm Top

>59 anglemark: We've just blogged about revoking the $5 for shipping. We had been using the money to cover other shipping, but it's getting close enough that we can afford to waive the shipping fee for everyone!

>70 guido47:, 71 Great plan. If you'd like to forward me your PayPal receipt, I'll add it to our anonymous donators collection and handle the adoption.

73anglemark
Edited: Nov 25, 2009, 8:24am Top

Classy, Sonya. For the record, using the difference to cover for salaries didn't upset me or anything, I was just wondering.

74crazybatcow
Nov 25, 2009, 6:55am Top

This message has been deleted by its author.

75crazy4reading
Nov 25, 2009, 7:52am Top

I do want to do this the one thing that keeps me second guessing myself on doing this is using pay pal. I have had problems in the past with pay pal and am afraid of them happening again.

76ablachly
Nov 25, 2009, 9:28am Top

>75 crazy4reading:
You could send us a check instead of using PayPal, if you want to. Just email Sonya (sonya@librarything.com) and tell her that's what you're doing, she'll give you a code to put into the PayPal receipt ID field. And the address to mail it to is here.

77crazy4reading
Nov 25, 2009, 11:34am Top

Thank you Abby!! Now I have another option.

78hnau
Nov 25, 2009, 1:00pm Top

Regarding BookDepository: at least the .co.uk site adjusts VAT at checkout (e.g. + 7% for Germany). Go to checkout, select your country, and you might get a message "Please note the VAT payable on this order has been adjusted to reflect your delivery location. This can be seen in your basket breakdown below."

The .com site doesn't add VAT for Germany at that stage, but I didn't order anything, they might do it later.

79AnnieMod
Nov 25, 2009, 1:41pm Top

They have the same message for here but only for non-books items.

80SqueakyChu
Nov 25, 2009, 4:54pm Top

Posted in error to wrong thread earlier today (Thanks, sunny).

Two questions:

Can we have the ability to edit our suggestions?

When do the suggestions disappear for the Santee?

----

Answer from Sonya (on other thread) was that we cannot edit the thread. Can it be fixed so that we can?

The suggestions were hidden at some point last year. Can we do that again this year?

81divinenanny
Nov 27, 2009, 6:23am Top

Just wanted to note that there is some spam/author spam going on in the suggestions. Check out Myckyee's suggestions and Harumphs. Both have a "suggestion" for a book posted by the author herself...

82MaidMeri
Nov 27, 2009, 9:03am Top

>81 divinenanny: I don't think that's a problem as long as the suggestion fits the person's wishes and they don't overdo it. Although I might add "nothing written by yourself" to my signup form now ...

83leahbird
Nov 28, 2009, 1:34pm Top

i was wondering about that. i've noticed 2 people who i would say are spamming with their own books, but didn't know how that was being viewed. so far, they've only targeted people that actually have interest in their genre, but it's not just a few people... it's probably closer to 10, and that's just the first 1/3 of the signup list.

84riverwillow
Nov 28, 2009, 1:46pm Top

As someone whose been 'spammed' in this way I've added a note asking for whoever is my Secret Santa not to buy the book being spammed, and am also going to add nothing written by yourself to my signup form now...

85SqueakyChu
Nov 28, 2009, 1:53pm Top

As much as I'd like to support LT authors, I don't think that suggesting one's own book is appropriate for the Secret Santa Program.

86SqueakyChu
Nov 28, 2009, 2:05pm Top

--> 84

I've done what you suggested but I don't think this should have been necessary in the first place. :(

87riverwillow
Nov 28, 2009, 4:59pm Top

>86 SqueakyChu: I'm with you and think it is absolutely outrageous behaviour.

88Phlox72
Nov 28, 2009, 6:26pm Top

This is my first time participating and I'm sooo excited! Just had to get that off my chest :)

89SqueakyChu
Nov 28, 2009, 6:35pm Top

I'm excited that you're excited. It really is fun.

90sonyagreen
Nov 29, 2009, 2:12pm Top

I just looked at an example of the author spam. Totally not OK. Much like what we say about Talk, if you're an author and going to mention your book, note that you're the author and keep it unpromotional. What I saw was promotion, which is against our terms of service. If you notice an author doing this, email me the details and if spam, I'll contact them.

91sonyagreen
Nov 29, 2009, 2:23pm Top

I found one author, by going to riverwillow's santathing page. Can someone let me know who the other offender is?

92Lman
Nov 29, 2009, 9:29pm Top

I'm still excited to be a part of this.. even with author spam!!!
I'm with you Phlox72!!!

93timspalding
Nov 30, 2009, 12:26am Top

I've set it so Santees can't see the suggestions on their entries. Should have done it earlier, although it doesn't appear that it was so in past years.

94SqueakyChu
Nov 30, 2009, 12:32am Top

Thanks, Tim.

95hnau
Nov 30, 2009, 5:43am Top

91: Miela's santathing page has two self-recommendations. I've seen the first recommendation only on this page, and it seems to match three of miela's hints. The other (already known) author is wherever the word "historical" is used.

96crazy4reading
Nov 30, 2009, 9:49am Top

Well I am excited about Santa Thing too and it is my first time participating.

97timspalding
Dec 1, 2009, 4:46pm Top

The system is now picking Santas. We are actually using book-to-book logic, so it's not immediate. In fact, it's tantalizingly slow. Check

http://www.librarything.com/santathing.php

to see if your santee has been picked yet.

I'll send out profile and email notices later tonight, after I put my son to bed.

98Scorbet
Dec 1, 2009, 5:03pm Top

One minor query, is it possible that the Euro and GBP max. values got switched? Because I think the other way round, i.e. £15 and €16.50 would make more sense based on the currency exchange.

99lindapanzo
Edited: Dec 1, 2009, 5:23pm Top

This is my first year and I'm confused (obviously). It says "you chose the book for" so this means that's the person I'm buying for? Otherwise known as the "santee."

I'm not usually this dense but I kept thinking "no, I didn't buy anything yet." I am taking this to mean that the person shown is the person for whom I should pick, correct?

NEVER MIND--I read the instructions, which I should've done in the first place.

100sonyagreen
Dec 1, 2009, 5:33pm Top

>98 Scorbet: Quite right. Fixed.

>99 lindapanzo: Chose indicates past tense. I changed it to choose.

101susiesharp
Dec 1, 2009, 6:08pm Top

Anyone else having a hard time getting exactly $25.00??

102lindapanzo
Dec 1, 2009, 6:16pm Top

Hey, this Santa Thing is fun!! I'm having a great time picking out books, investigating what the person has read and likes etc etc.

103susiesharp
Dec 1, 2009, 6:34pm Top

Well is $24.97 close enough??That was fun but found a bunch more books for myself in the bargain!

104sqdancer
Dec 1, 2009, 6:46pm Top

>101 susiesharp:, 103
Wow, that's close! :)

I wouldn't worry about getting it dead on. I believe any excess $ is being used to help defray postage costs. (see Nov 24th blog post)

105timspalding
Dec 1, 2009, 7:28pm Top

>Anyone else having a hard time getting exactly $25.00??

Hey, we gave up our margin and are eating the shipping wherever it's necessary. So we need our nickels and dimes!

106fredbacon
Dec 1, 2009, 7:42pm Top

I didn't realize this was going to be so scary. My Santee didn't leave any suggestions or advice on what to avoid. That means digging through their library to try and come up with some sense of what their current tastes are. Yikes!

107infiniteletters
Dec 1, 2009, 7:47pm Top

106: Try their tag mirror?

108fredbacon
Dec 1, 2009, 8:00pm Top

Ah! Didn't know about that feature. That helps a lot. Thanks.

109timspalding
Dec 1, 2009, 8:03pm Top

When in doubt, buy romance novels. Everybody likes them!

110susiesharp
Dec 1, 2009, 8:14pm Top

Oops should I have gone less than that Tim>>
And PLEEZE No romance novels for me ;)

111crazybatcow
Dec 1, 2009, 8:23pm Top

HAHAHA.... romance novels all around! Everyone should get one!

112Jesse_wiedinmyer
Dec 1, 2009, 8:24pm Top

You're obviously the exception that proves the rule.

113jjmcgaffey
Dec 1, 2009, 10:43pm Top

Tim - the instructions say that "If they haven't chosen a bookseller, you will see the bookseller options available to you (based on the member's location)." I don't see anything - where would that be showing up? I haven't entered anything as a comment yet, does it pop up there or something? I can always default to Amazon, but...

114divinenanny
Dec 1, 2009, 10:49pm Top

Ooooh this is scary but I am glad I am matched with someone who likes at least some of the books I like... makes it a bit easier!

115leahbird
Dec 2, 2009, 1:09am Top

oh no! i got a newer member with few books cataloged and almost NO info on their SantaThing page... what to do??

i guess i'll just have to impose my will on them!! bwahahaha!

(seriously though, crap)

116divinenanny
Dec 2, 2009, 4:03am Top

Phew, I picked... at first it seemed hard (also because my Santee seemed to have all the books I thought of), but then it became easier and easier...

117KLmesoftly
Dec 2, 2009, 4:15am Top

Finally picked! I chose a couple of books that I think my recipient will really enjoy, but ones they might not have heard of or thought to choose themselves. Hopefully it works out well!

118reading_fox
Dec 2, 2009, 6:55am Top

#113 "If they haven't chosen a bookseller, you will see the bookseller options available to you (based on the member's location). "

Ditto. I'm not seeing anything here.

119Morphidae
Dec 2, 2009, 8:16am Top

Picked mine. Thankfully there was "such a deal" on one book I picked, otherwise they would have only gotten two. I had to hunt up one at the right price.

120crazy4reading
Dec 2, 2009, 8:24am Top

I started looking for books and found some that I would love. This is really fun. I hope to enter some choices tonight.

121legxleg
Dec 2, 2009, 8:31am Top

I have a question. I'm trying to choose books for someone who has picked the Harvard Book Store as their preferred book seller. I know that we're not usually supposed to pick used books, even though they are cheaper, because they might not be in stock when the LT people order them. However, there is a section at the Harvard Book Store site for Bargain Books, which they say are new and when you click on a title the page includes an 'in stock' designation. However, the entries in Bargain Books don't have ISBN numbers, and don't come up when I do a normal search of the shelves (I noticed this when a book I was considering getting, but had overruled as too expensive, popped up in the bargain shelves at a much better price). Would it be acceptable to pick books from the 'Bargain Books' section, even with the lack of ISBN number and weird exclusion from the main shelves?

122timspalding
Dec 2, 2009, 8:59am Top

>121 legxleg:

It's acceptable, but be absolutely sure you provide a back-up choice.

123RBeffa
Dec 2, 2009, 9:48am Top

if we pick from amazon.ca how much in Canadian dollars do we pick to = $25 US dollars?

124Donogh
Dec 2, 2009, 10:15am Top

I've found a very nice book (actually I've found several) weighing in at approx $21, but haven't found anything suitable to fill the balance.
Obviously I'm going to keep looking but is this too large a gap to leave in the budget?

125timspalding
Dec 2, 2009, 10:28am Top

>Obviously I'm going to keep looking but is this too large a gap to leave in the budget?

No. It helps us defray shipping.

126RBeffa
Dec 2, 2009, 10:33am Top

I've noticed in the past that Amazon changes the prices of some books pretty often. (In fact a book I purchased from them last week is now about $5 more). How are we going to avoid this problem when picking books? I will put the price I saw in the comment box when I list my book(s) to my santee. I also think I'll wait till near the deadline or at least recheck the prices close to the deadline.

127kaelirenee
Dec 2, 2009, 10:50am Top

I'm looking at books on the Book Table site, but every one I've found so far is described as a used copy in near fine condition. Is it OK to still use this site as long as I provide a few alternates?

128RBeffa
Dec 2, 2009, 11:09am Top

re#123 I believe I stumbled upon my answer on the choose a bookseller page where it shows $C26.

129calm
Dec 2, 2009, 11:19am Top

I am in the UK and the person I am finding a book for is "other country" Book Depository. My question is whether I should be looking at US dollars on .com or UK pounds on .co.uk for the prices?

Also following #126 RBeffa's comment should I go by the current discounted price (where available) or full retail price? (I don't know how long they leave the discounted price up so don't know if the discount will be there when you order)

130lilkim714
Dec 2, 2009, 12:30pm Top

So you absolutely cant pick a book under $2.50..I found an awesome book that i think my santee will like but its only $2.04...

131crazybatcow
Dec 2, 2009, 12:33pm Top

where on EARTH are you finding new books for that price! I can't find anything under $14!!!

sigh...

132lilkim714
Dec 2, 2009, 12:34pm Top

luck i suppose...i really hope that i can give it to my santee...its an awesome book

133lindapanzo
Dec 2, 2009, 12:37pm Top

#131--really? Just about everything I'm finding on Amazon is about ten dollars or a few cents over, new trade pb's mostly. I hate to give up the five dollars but haven't found anything of interest that low there.

134Jacey25
Dec 2, 2009, 12:38pm Top

Is it ok to use the 4 for 3 deal on books on Amazon.com? (Mass market paperbacks) I use this a lot when shopping for myself so I know it works & the books don't usually get dropped on & off the approved list. Discount is apllied at time of check out.

I put the request it but also put down which book you could drop if it's not ok but now that I've found the forum I thought I'd ask officially

135lilkim714
Dec 2, 2009, 1:23pm Top

can someone tell me how to put the link in the comment where we want to tell what books to get..last time i did it incorrectly and had problems so I dont want to mess up again..thanks!!

136timspalding
Dec 2, 2009, 1:26pm Top

Yeah, no problem if it's really special. I just don't want pointless Dover-stuffing. It wastes our time, among other things.

137ablachly
Dec 2, 2009, 1:29pm Top

>124 Donogh:, 125
We also lose a little over a dollar in PayPal fees for each person, so any extra money defrays that too.

138infiniteletters
Dec 2, 2009, 1:44pm Top

133: Check the Bargain Books section.

139sonyagreen
Edited: Dec 2, 2009, 2:42pm Top

>113 jjmcgaffey: 118 Ah, a small bug. If your santa hadn't chosen a preferred seller, you don't get to see the options. Mike's fixing it now, and you'll then see a list of the options available to you, based on the member's country.

>127 kaelirenee: Only if you give alternatives, which are new books.

>129 calm: US$ on Bookdepository. Go with the sale price, but give us an alternative in case what you choose ends up being over (if it reverts to full retail).

>130 lilkim714: We made that rule so people don't choose 25 $1 Dover books, because it exponentially increases our time having to order books. You can pick the supercheap book (it is a new book, right?) if you don't order more than 3.

>134 Jacey25: Sure, and noting which to drop is the other key part. Anyone else wanting to do the Amazon 4-for-3 should note which to drop (in case the deal ends).

>135 lilkim714: I fixed the problem. If someone puts in an href in their comment, it can mess up the comment box. Email me if this happens to anyone else. sonya@librarything.com

140RBeffa
Dec 2, 2009, 2:47pm Top

Do we "have" to use the preferred book source chosen by our Santee? Amazon.ca is frustrating the heck out of me with their prices. My #1 choice of a book is $17CA on amazon.ca which pretty much precludes a second choice but The Book Depository price is $10US and easily allows for several of my second book ideas....

141sonyagreen
Dec 2, 2009, 4:55pm Top

The reason why we let people choose was based on my idea that people would want to opt out of using Amazon, opting to pay more for a book from an indie store (at least in the US).

But, your Santee has made their choice, and you're going to have to work with it. One really good reason why they may have chosen Amazon.ca is because the book will ship faster than at Book Depository, thus making it more likely that they'll get the package before Christmas. To some, that's a big deal.

I think it was in Up the Down Staircase that the principal would say to teachers who had no chalk or paper "Let it be a challenge to you."

142Jesse_wiedinmyer
Dec 2, 2009, 5:04pm Top

But, your Santee has made their choice, and you're going to have to work with it.

Also known as... It's the holidays, so it's not all about you.

143_Zoe_
Dec 2, 2009, 5:10pm Top

I just don't want pointless Dover-stuffing.

This makes me sad. One of my favourite books that I'd love to choose for someone is available in a Dover Thrift edition, which basically means that I can't select that book at all--I'm not going to spend $8 of their gift money on a book that could be had for $2.

144crazybatcow
Dec 2, 2009, 5:11pm Top

Yeah... I see that the prices for some indie places are the same as Amazon without the 25% discount. Kinda disappointing in that some will be lucky to get 2 books for $25 from an indie, but would get 3 or 4 from amazon.

(of course,they could live in Canada where it costs $15 for a paperback on discount from amazon!) There aren't any indies here, probably because they'd have to sell paperbacks for $30.

And, of course, everyone who picked an indie must have done so intentionally and thus be aware their books cost more... I hope...

145ablachly
Dec 2, 2009, 5:16pm Top

Yeah, as I was pointing out to Sonya today, the indies just can't compete with Amazon prices. Take the book Her Fearful Symmetry:

Harvard Bookstore: $26.99
Powells: $18.50 used or $26 new
Amazon: $7.24

In other words, Amazon's selling it for 73% off list price. That's insane.

So yes, I personally chose for my Santa to pick my books at an indie, but I do so knowing that I won't be getting a ton of books for $25.

146infiniteletters
Dec 2, 2009, 5:19pm Top

143: I think Tim meant "adding Dovers just because they're cheap" instead of something appropriate?

147_Zoe_
Dec 2, 2009, 5:25pm Top

(of course,they could live in Canada where it costs $15 for a paperback on discount from amazon!) There aren't any indies here, probably because they'd have to sell paperbacks for $30

But we have the option of ordering books from the Book Depository, with US prices, for Canadian recipients! I hope people realize this.

I think Tim meant "adding Dovers just because they're cheap" instead of something appropriate?

The rule is strict, though: no books under $2.50. I wish we could at least pretend that the Dover cost $3, deducting from our $25 accordingly.

148RBeffa
Dec 2, 2009, 5:42pm Top

#142
what it means is that the recipient gets one book instead of three. That's not about me.
I have removed my own preference for a bookshop on Santathing - I didn't realize it would restrict the Santa. I thought it was merely a preference.

149sqdancer
Edited: Dec 2, 2009, 5:46pm Top

>147 _Zoe_:

See Sonya's message 139
>130 lilkim714: We made that rule so people don't choose 25 $1 Dover books, because it exponentially increases our time having to order books. You can pick the supercheap book (it is a new book, right?) if you don't order more than 3.

150_Zoe_
Dec 2, 2009, 5:48pm Top

>149 sqdancer: Thanks, I'd missed that!

151sqdancer
Dec 2, 2009, 5:55pm Top

No prob, there was a lot in that message. :)

152_Zoe_
Dec 2, 2009, 6:10pm Top

Now, the difficult decision... two trade paperbacks and a Dover Thrift, or 4 for 3 mass-market paperbacks?

153sonyagreen
Dec 2, 2009, 6:11pm Top

>151 sqdancer: Yeah, that's what I get for leaving this thread for a while.
Thanks for figuring that one out.

Zoe, you're totally OK to pick a Dover as long as I don't have to do way more work. Fair, yes? :)

154_Zoe_
Dec 2, 2009, 6:17pm Top

Sounds fair to me :)

155timspalding
Dec 2, 2009, 7:26pm Top

:picturing Sonya ordering 510 * 3 books...

156KLmesoftly
Dec 2, 2009, 7:29pm Top

1530? Impressive.

157_debbie_
Dec 2, 2009, 7:37pm Top

I get the thing about some Santees wanting an indie store, so I'm OK with using the site mine chose (The Book Table), but all of the books are out of stock. My Santee was very specific about what she wanted and I there are none in that category available within the price limit. The only books I see available are used ones. I'm not familiar with The Book Table, so maybe that's just how they do things? All of the books (even brand new ones) say "usually can be ordered in 1-5 days." So my question is -- which rule can I break? Order an out of stock book, order only used books, or use a different site?

158Phlox72
Edited: Dec 2, 2009, 8:29pm Top

@ #109 .....Yeah? Cause I really don't like romance books.

This is soo much fun. I've made a "gift list" for my santee. Still deciding on which books i'll ultimately get. I just hope the person likes my choices :-}

159sjmccreary
Dec 3, 2009, 9:56pm Top

#157 I'm interested in the answer to this question. My Santee has requested Powells, but almost all the books I'm finding that I think she will like are only available as used. Some are in limited quantities, I get that I shouldn't order one of those. But most don't show any indication of being in short supply. And they are really reasonable prices, so I could probably get her 4 books. Can I? Please? If I list alternates?

160marywilton
Dec 3, 2009, 10:05pm Top

The book I want to get my person is listed as "special order" at both the harvard book store and the book table. Does this mean it is not available/I can't choose it for santathing? (It's out of stock at the other two stores)

Also, can I order books from different book stores (i.e. one from amazon and one from harvard book store) if my santee has no preference or will that just make it a helluva headache for you folk?

161khrister
Dec 4, 2009, 8:22am Top

>80 SqueakyChu: I agree, the ability to edit suggestions would be great. Both comments I've made on the page of my santee are a bit messed up.

162caras_galadhon
Dec 5, 2009, 2:21am Top

>161 khrister: Aha! I was wondering if anyone else was having this problem. When I signed up for SantaThing, my form was clean, but when I submitted it, there were a bunch of extra characters (slashes) inserted before all quotation marks that no amount of editing would remove, and I lost all my line-breaks. Just this evening I submitted my choices for my recipient, and lost all line-breaks between paragraphs. It's become a horrifying wall of text. O_o

Oddly, it's reassuring to know I'm not the only one having formatting issues.

163timspalding
Dec 5, 2009, 2:25am Top

Sorry. Old code. I'll look into it tomorrow, post-sleep.

164caras_galadhon
Dec 5, 2009, 12:59pm Top

>163 timspalding: Thanks so much, Tim!

165keristars
Edited: Dec 5, 2009, 3:16pm Top

Okay, I feel a bit dumb here, but can someone confirm for me how to put in my choices for my Santee?

If I understand it properly (and lord knows I've mixed it up), I leave a comment/suggestion with my choice of source and the titles I picked? Or do I need to leave the URL to the book, too, in case there are multiple editions?

And is it customary to give a bit of an explanation for the picks for the Santee to see afterwards?

(Also, how frustrating is it that one book I'd like to use is a $27 hardback...and the paperback version is $11, but won't be available until 24 December!)

((While I'm commenting, lemme add that the tagmash was a fantastic resource for finding books, as while I enjoy the sorts of things that my recipient asked for, I'm pretty much completely unfamiliar with titles that would match. Tagmash helped loads - yay tagmash!))

166lindapanzo
Dec 5, 2009, 6:44pm Top

I've never done Santa Thing before but yes, I did put in the author, title, and a link to each book.

I also explained a bit why I chose each book. I don't think the explanation part is required.

167kaelirenee
Dec 6, 2009, 5:28pm Top

I did put in an explanation for the books I selected--we'll be able to read the comments once the books are all sent out, and I'd like my Santee to understand the thinking that went in to book selection (especially if any of the titles sound really odd when s/he sees them).

168hayleyscomet
Dec 6, 2009, 11:06pm Top

I am having the same problem as #157. My Thingee requested that I order from The Book Table, but every single thing I would like to get says, "Not in stock. Can usually be ordered within 1-5 days."

Are these books still OK, or do I have to find something that is actually in stock? After much searching, the *only* book that I've found that is in stock is a used copy! Some guidance here would be much appreciated.

169leahbird
Dec 7, 2009, 11:28am Top

i included books that weren't in stock but i made sure to list an alternative option in case they couldn't get them. if someone picked The Book Table they are probably aware that things might be a tad harder to come by, so i'd say they won't be disappointed if you can't get everything you'd like to.

(it is frustrating though)

170AnnaClaire
Edited: Dec 7, 2009, 4:28pm Top

Isn't there a thread somewhere for people at a total loss about what to get for their Santee? I'm having a lot of trouble: my library is a pretty good match for the person who signed up, but the gift is for a third party.

Edited to add: I did have a few ideas, but they're already listed in this person's catalog, and would be (I presume) available for borrowing.

171sqdancer
Edited: Dec 7, 2009, 4:34pm Top

> 170

AnnaClaire, maybe this thread ?

172calm
Edited: Dec 7, 2009, 4:40pm Top

#170 AnnaClaire Here's the thread I hope you get the help you need.

http://www.librarything.com/topic/78233

edit - it took me longer to find;)

173AnnaClaire
Dec 7, 2009, 4:53pm Top

>171 sqdancer:-2
That's it! Thank you both.

174sonyagreen
Dec 7, 2009, 9:27pm Top

>157 _debbie_: (What to do if the bookseller is out of books)

For Harvard and The Book Table, if it says 'usually can be ordered in 1-5 days', go ahead and order them. (Alternatives are good for hedging bets, of course.)

175jjmcgaffey
Dec 8, 2009, 4:06am Top

Amazon.ca was frustrating! All the books I wanted to get my Santee were there, at good prices - and available for shipping in 2-4 weeks ("will arrive after December 24th"). Grr! So I got ones from the Book Depository instead.

176_debbie_
Dec 8, 2009, 7:20am Top

Thanks Sonya.

177RBeffa
Dec 9, 2009, 10:27am Top

#175 I was very frustrated with amazon.ca . Unless you were picking a bestseller it seemed that all the books I looked at were "2-4 weeks" or "1-3 weeks". So, my santee may have to wait a little bit for getting a good book. Esp with the long shipping times for amazon.ca within Canada. I don't think I would use them as a santa choice in the future.

178Phlox72
Dec 10, 2009, 10:17am Top

Well it's all over now isn't it? Time to wait on our "surprise presents." I hope my santee enjoys my picks.

179allthesedarnbooks
Dec 11, 2009, 1:33pm Top

When do we find out who our Santas were and get to thank them? I got a surprise package of books from Amazon today that I'm assuming were from my Santa (although I'm not sure because the shipping receipt didn't match the book) and I really want to say thank you.

180montrealgirl2005
Dec 11, 2009, 1:57pm Top

Just curious as to if there is a thread for saying thanks to your Santa's. I got my package today and I already opened it. I am like a kid at xmas and couldn't wait but they will go under the tree just the same on the weekend.

I actually sent a thank you to my Santa on her page.

Thanks again for organizning this and i will be taking part in it again next year if there is one.

181lindapanzo
Dec 11, 2009, 2:13pm Top

So, the package says who your santa was? That's good to know.

I'm at work but hoping that I have a package waiting for me from amazon tonight...

182AnnaClaire
Dec 11, 2009, 2:35pm Top

>181 lindapanzo:
Try looking carefully at the packing slip when you do get your gift(s).

183calm
Dec 11, 2009, 2:54pm Top

I'm beginning to wish I hadn't done this- I stopped mail ordering because parcels often end up nearly 2 miles away at a similar address - if one arrives here I just phone them to let them know or (if small) take them around to the lady who lives there; she waits until her car driving son visits or tries to catch the postman (not ideal when the package isn't royal mail!). (Let me just say - neither of us have cars and that address is not on the public transport route or on my way to get to the bus stop it's in the opposite direction!)

184crazybatcow
Dec 11, 2009, 3:00pm Top

sounds like at least she's nice about it.

if my mail got misdelivered around here... seeyaaround mail 'cause I'd certainly never see it again.

not like my neighbors can read anyway, but still... something free is excellent you know

185calm
Dec 11, 2009, 4:27pm Top

#184 NO!- she WAITS until her son visits (or she catches the postman!) I've had bills/hospital appointments etc end up here way overdue! If something for her arrives and it is small enough I walk (nearly 4 miles round trip) If too big I let her know and let her son come and collect it!!!! (She is a dear but old and confused) If I am expecting something I phone and ask if it is there!

Sometimes I wish I had kept the delivery from the wine club; but contact lenses = wrong prescription l

186kristy.shannon
Dec 11, 2009, 6:55pm Top

I totally opened my package already as well. :)

187divinenanny
Dec 12, 2009, 4:23am Top

Oh, how nice that everybody is getting packages already. My preferred bookseller was BookDepository, and I know that they are pretty slow, so I know I have to wait another week or so...

188RBeffa
Dec 12, 2009, 12:05pm Top

My experience with bookdepository UK to the US (west coast even) has been amazingly fast service. I ordered a batch of books for Christmas gifts this year and had all but one in less than a week. Amazon can be very fast, or a slug. Glad to hear the gifts are arriving already. That's cool.

189keristars
Dec 12, 2009, 1:58pm Top

Amazon got mine to me pretty fast - showed up about ten minutes ago and I ripped into the package right away. Yay :)

190katylit
Dec 13, 2009, 11:44am Top

Yup, couldn't wait, my books arrived Friday, it was just too fun and exciting to wait. I love SantaThing :-)

191lindapanzo
Dec 13, 2009, 12:00pm Top

No Santa Thing books at my house yet. No doubt I'll open them right away, though.

192SqueakyChu
Edited: Dec 13, 2009, 3:02pm Top

My Amazon package came superfast! I didn't have to wait to open it because I don't celebrate Christmas. :) I'm enjoying the first of the two books I received already.

Happy holidays, everyone!

ETA: and, thank you, lucienspringer, for great picks for me!

193xorscape
Dec 13, 2009, 7:36pm Top

My book has arrived! And I got what I asked for! Thank you so much, bennettsmama!

194KLmesoftly
Dec 13, 2009, 8:04pm Top

Oh, this is torture! I had my books sent to my school's on-campus post office--but they're not open on the weekend, so I have to wait till 8am tomorrow to check.

Congrats to everyone who's gotten theirs already, though!

195sonyagreen
Dec 14, 2009, 10:45am Top

I don't think I noted this elsewhere, but BookDepository doesn't have a gift feature (or, I haven't found it), so if your book is coming from BD, you'll have to wait until Dec. 25th (when we open the SantaThing page so you can see your Santa).

If your package is from any of the Amazons, Powells, The Book Table, or Harvard Book Store, then you'll get a note with your Santa's name.

I honestly can't remember about Chapters just now. I'm in a SantaThing-ordering haze. We're almost done ordering!

196crazy4reading
Dec 14, 2009, 12:31pm Top

You are doing a great job Sonya and thanks for all of your hard work. I will wait patiently for my gift to arrive. I don't know if I will behave myself and wait till Christmas or rip right into it.

197MerryMary
Dec 14, 2009, 1:22pm Top

I have absolutely no doubt in my mind what I will do.

198SqueakyChu
Dec 15, 2009, 8:26am Top

Full circle. I received two great books from my Secret Santa and a very nice thank you note from my Santee who also likes the selections I made for her.

I don't want to miss saying thanks to Sonya, Abby, and Tim for the hard work they put into making this year's Secret Santa program better than ever. A special thank you also goes to klarusu who throught up the idea of making this program available to even more folks.

Have a great holiday season, everyone!

*pleased*

199angelikat
Dec 15, 2009, 10:29am Top

*happy dance*

My book came! My book came......and it is a good one! My Santa is AWESOME - and I would like to thank you - whoever you are!

For some reason, there was no packing slip in my package, just the book, which I thought was strange 'cause correct me if I am wrong but last year there was a message with my books attached to the packing slip from my Santa.

*happy dance*

200chazzard
Dec 15, 2009, 10:51am Top

#199

My SS book was the same - I have no idea who it came from!

Mine's a good one too! Thanks, Secret Santa...

201christiguc
Dec 15, 2009, 10:59am Top

>199 angelikat:, 200 When the books are shipped in more than one package, the packing slip is usually contained in only one of the boxes. So perhaps you have another one arriving with a later shipping date?

202AnnieMod
Dec 15, 2009, 11:08am Top

>201 christiguc:

But at least at Amazon, if it is separated in more than one package, the packing slip says so... (if it is Book Depository then it is a book per package so they never say what remains from your order)

203christiguc
Edited: Dec 15, 2009, 11:11am Top

>202 AnnieMod: Really? Huh. I've had boxes from Amazon that contained no packing slip because they were one of two (or three) shipments. The last one usually contains the packing slip, at least in my experience with Amazon.

204AnnieMod
Dec 15, 2009, 11:19am Top

Well - every time when my order had been separated in more than one box (requested by me for faster shipping or on their own decision), I had a slip in all of them with the one being sent first containing information that there is something else coming (cannot remember if it was the books names or just that there is something coming) and the prices only for these books and then the second one was having a note that it concludes the order (or something like this)... Might have changed - but at least up back in March when I had the last separated order, it was still working like this...

205jjmcgaffey
Dec 15, 2009, 1:39pm Top

I got mine - one, anyway (may be more coming, since this is just one paperback). But I'm not going to open it until Christmas. It's really weird to have a present and have no idea what it is beyond 'a book' (my family always asks what I want, so I have some idea what I'm going to get). So I'm going to tie a ribbon around the Amazon box and put it under my family's tree, and enjoy this odd sensation...

206lindapanzo
Dec 15, 2009, 4:40pm Top

I received three books from Amazon yesterday, chosen for me by my Secret Santa, cbl_tn. Excellent choices, including one that combines two of my favorite reading topics, though I'd never heard of this particular book.

Thanks to cbl_tn for choosing such great books and also to Abby, Sonya et al for organizing such a great activity. I had fun both giving and receiving, though I don't think my Santee has gotten his books yet.

207DaynaRT
Edited: Dec 15, 2009, 5:59pm Top

My books just arrived and my Santar, Oberon, picked out some winners!

208crazy4reading
Dec 15, 2009, 6:12pm Top

I received my package today and I am being like jjmcgaffey, I am not opening it until Christmas. My daughter told me to wait until Christmas. She says I should wrap it and put it under the tree. I asked her to wrap it but she won't so I will do it sometime this week. I still need to get my tree up. Have presents but no tree.. Now let's just see if I can wait 11 days to open the present.

209fredbacon
Dec 15, 2009, 6:48pm Top

How do we find the name of our Santa? I wanted to thank them, but I seem to have missed something obvious concerning their identity.

210lindapanzo
Dec 15, 2009, 6:51pm Top

#209 The person's LT username was shown on my package from Amazon.

211skittles
Dec 15, 2009, 7:03pm Top

I had my SantaThing package shipped to where I'll be for Christmas Morning.

I've been informed that a package has arrived from Amazon.

Oooohhh!! I'm frustrated!!!

(and thank you to whomever my Santa is!!)

212bluesalamanders
Dec 15, 2009, 7:10pm Top

I got mine today! Three books from strandedon8jo. One I've read before (and loved, so yay!), the other two I'm not familiar with but they look interesting. Woo!

213monzrocks
Dec 15, 2009, 7:23pm Top

I got mine today too! Good picks from leadmomma!

214fredbacon
Dec 15, 2009, 8:03pm Top

Rats! I didn't save the package or look at the label. Any other way to discover their identity?

215susiesharp
Dec 15, 2009, 8:21pm Top

*pouts* haven't gotten mine yet.

216fyrefly98
Dec 15, 2009, 10:01pm Top

>214 fredbacon: After Christmas they'll unlock the SantaThing pages so you can go in and see your suggestions. The one with the red box around it is the message from your Santa.

217ForeignCircus
Dec 15, 2009, 11:14pm Top

I got one today (and the packing slip says another is on the way). I opened it (not realizing it was my SantaThing) then literally squealed because it was the book I most wanted on my Wishlist and yet was most unlikely to get for myself The Man Who Loved Books Too Much.

Wonderful choice lman!

218SylviaC
Dec 15, 2009, 11:19pm Top

Mine came yesterday by UPS, sooner than I thought possible. lkernagh selected the perfect book for me. I had trouble finding the name hidden in the fine print on the packing slip, but eventually I found it, and sent a thank you comment. This was so much fun!

219Rachael
Dec 16, 2009, 1:56am Top

Mine came today, but I didn't open it & don't know who it's from. I asked my husband to open the box (so he could tell me if it was for sure from my SantaThing person, and it was) & wrap it up for me so it can go under the tree. I'm waiting to open it till Christmas! :-)

220Belladonna1975
Dec 16, 2009, 1:58am Top

I got mine today too...soo tempting...and heavy!! Whatever could it be?

I will try to hold out but I doubt I will be able to.

221Donogh
Dec 16, 2009, 3:20am Top

Mine (may have) arrived yesterday. My wife was under instructions to sequester any packages from Book Depository!

222angelikat
Dec 16, 2009, 9:22am Top

>201 christiguc: christiguc

You were right, I did get another book with my Santa's name on it. So a huge thank you to llamagirl for the excellent books! SantaThing rocks!

223Macophile
Edited: Dec 16, 2009, 12:04pm Top

>>ForeignCircus: you got lman- she's great!

My secret santa (paixe) got me three books. I was going to wait to open my books but I have other things coming in from amazon and I opened it and sat there for 10 min. going "this was sent to the wrong address". Of course I was also staring at the books going I didn't order these- I have never heard of 2 of them... lol. (I'm a little tired.)Then I saw "Library Thing Secret Santa" and it all made sense.

But I refuse to read them until after Christmas- However I don't think I will be able to hold off my relatives from a couple of them- lol. :D

224DaynaRT
Dec 16, 2009, 12:11pm Top

Is anyone tagging their Santa books with any particular tag?

225fyrefly98
Edited: Dec 16, 2009, 12:46pm Top

I tag SantaThing books I've received with the somewhat obvious "santathing", and it looks like I'm not alone. :)

226jjmcgaffey
Dec 16, 2009, 1:31pm Top

Mine will be !Santathing - the exclamation point means 'where I got this' (so I have !Borders, !ER, !YS (yard sale), etc).

227MEStaton
Dec 16, 2009, 1:39pm Top

I was only able to pick two books for my santaee but they were both heavy paperbacks and over $10 each, hopefully LT put the change to good use. Hopefully she will like them and hasn't read them yet as I based it on her library. It was pretty cool doing the picking. I wish I had been able to do more santa picking for the orphans but being the UK I was beaten to it by others.

Still haven't gotten my books yet but very excited to see what they could be.

Thanks again to all of LT for such a great idea and experience especially my adopter and whomever my SecretSanta is.

228susiesharp
Dec 16, 2009, 7:45pm Top

Well I waited all of five minutes till I couldn't stand it anymore and opened my SantaThing Present!My Santa willowsmom did a GREAT job!Thanks so much !
I just hope my santee is as happy as I am.

229crazy4reading
Dec 16, 2009, 9:40pm Top

I have to say part of me wants to open my package yet I don't want to because I am afraid I will want to read them now. I am going to wrap them tomorrow night then I won't be able to open them until Christmas. Seeing all these happy messages is making me want to open the box. But I am determined not to.

230speakfreelynow
Dec 17, 2009, 9:34am Top

I got my package yesterday! :) my santa, vnovak, did a great job. one book i've read and love and am so happy to now own, and one i've wanted to read for awhile now. so happy!

231romula
Dec 17, 2009, 11:28am Top

I got my SantaThing box as well. Thanks ForeignCircus! I'm guessing How the Grinch Stole Christmas will be read for many Christmas's to come.

232joannasephine
Dec 17, 2009, 6:29pm Top

I got a mysterious parcel from Book Depository this morning … oooh, I so wish I knew who my santa was! Never mind, I will be patient. (ish.)

Thank you thank you thank you Tim and Sonya and Abby for setting it up. And thank you secret santa, whoever you are!

233divinenanny
Dec 18, 2009, 9:21am Top

I received (part 1?) my package today! Thank you secret Santa! Eleanor of Aquitaine is somebody I wanted to know more about for a long time! :)

234lahochstetler
Dec 18, 2009, 2:26pm Top

I got what I think was my Santathing package- I did'nt look closely at the packing slip because I was on my way out the door to get to the airport, but the parcel contained a beautiful hardcover copy of Her Fearful Symmetry. To whomever my secret Santa was, thank you! It's a beautiful book, and one I'd been wanting. Once the threads get opened up after Christmas I will thank you properly.

235leahbird
Dec 18, 2009, 4:52pm Top

got mine a few days ago. i'm holding off till Sunday to open it since i'll need books for Do Nothing But Read Day.

236CDVicarage
Dec 19, 2009, 10:35am Top

Well, an Amazon parcel arrived and it might have contained something I'd ordered to give at Christmas so I had to open it to check, and - what a surprise - it was from my Secret Santa. Thanks, Oryan685. Three excellent choices.

237AnnaClaire
Dec 19, 2009, 12:43pm Top

I got a box from Amazon the other day. It contained two books but no packing slip, so I suspect my Santa managed to fit three history books into $25 (which would make my anony-Santa pretty darn clever).

238anivyl
Dec 20, 2009, 2:36am Top

ooo all this reading of everyone's excitement is getting me excited too :) I am in australia, so I am expecting mine sometime this week (I guess) or maybe in the new year, which isn't a big deal! Presents are always awesome!

yet, I wonder how my santee is doing and if he's gotten his books! (i am pretty sure I mentioned 2 books, but looking back now on how everyone's done their ordering, I felt silly and should have left some alternatives should one or the other be not available! rawr)

239MaidMeri
Dec 20, 2009, 4:36am Top

>238 anivyl:

You can check whether they ordered all or just some of your books on your Santee's sign-up form. :) There should be a note after the comment you left (usually saying "DONE", if there was no problem).

240catherinestead
Dec 21, 2009, 6:45am Top

Last night I dreamed I'd mistyped my address on the signup form and my books never came...

... and this morning I got up to find two packets from The Book Depository had just dropped through the letterbox. Hooray!

Now, can I wait until Friday to open them?

*Looks longingly at packages and sits on hands*

241klarusu
Dec 21, 2009, 7:09am Top

Ooooooo - SantaThing packages are waiting for me at home ... unfortunately, I have the whole afternoon of work ahead. Boooo! (You may have guessed that these are not going to make it until Friday ...)

242calm
Dec 21, 2009, 8:47am Top

I've got a package from the Book Depository;) I haven't opened it yet!

243_Zoe_
Dec 21, 2009, 12:59pm Top

I had the best of intentions to save my SantaThing gift until Christmas... but the first package arrived today, and of course I tore into it immediately. Heh.

And it's a great choice--thanks, Santa!

244klarusu
Dec 21, 2009, 3:45pm Top

I don't know who my Santa or mini-Me (Lily)'s Santa was as there were no slips in the packages so I can't thank them personally until the page gets unlocked but in case you stop by here Santas, thank you! I love my books but that pales into insignificance in the face of Lily's reaction to getting a package of books with her name on the outside. I explained how she got them (you know, that Father Christmas sent a message saying he'd run out of room on the sledge so she could have a package early by post instead ... obviously!). Each successive book she extracted was accompanied by an open-mouthed 'Wow!' and they've all been taken to bed with her tonight. Thank you both!

245sonyagreen
Dec 21, 2009, 8:01pm Top

I think we all get to bask in the glow of that!

246Lman
Edited: Dec 22, 2009, 11:19am Top

I don't think it much matters what we all get now; mini-klarusu alone has made SantaThing incredibly worthwhile...as you say Sonya, I am glowing! Feels very, very good!

edited to fix spelling.

247anivyl
Dec 22, 2009, 10:50am Top

ooo *happy dance* yay for mini-klarusu!

248TheoClarke
Dec 22, 2009, 4:46pm Top

Today I have been sharing the joy of the min-klarusu SantaThing story with non-LT people I met. Hearts have been warmed.

249klarusu
Dec 23, 2009, 1:56pm Top

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU! I just arrived home in the slushy, sleety snow to a package full of Christmas Cards and goodies - you are all AWESOME! Thank you Theo for sending them all and thank you all for my Christmas wishes. They're going to work with me tomorrow and shall remain affixed to my pin board for the next year to cheer me up when the evil world of university life makes me feel like no-one ever does anything nice for people any more. I shall look at my cards and all will be well again. You couldn't see my face when I opened it, but I can assure you that it was a picture. *still grinning*

I am off to craft the food for tomorrow's Christmas Eve dinner, possibly assisted by a large glass of red wine, but I wish you all the happiest of holidays howsoever you celebrate it ... may it bring you GOOD THINGS.

250MerryMary
Edited: Dec 24, 2009, 1:18am Top

Never mind.

251Fey
Dec 24, 2009, 9:36am Top

I just received my package from Book Depositroy today. I opened it, there was no point waiting until tomorrow. We can't make a Christmas tree, the cats would tear it down in a minute. My Santa did a good job, considering my library is private. I don't really care for palladian architecture but perhaps I will after reading the book I got, The Four Books on Architecture.

252crazy4reading
Dec 25, 2009, 9:37am Top

I held out until Christmas to open my Amazon package. My daughter wrapped it for me last night. I want to thank brewergirl for the 4 books. I have not heard of any of these books and can't wait to read them for my 1010 challenge. Thanks again!! :)

253Donogh
Dec 25, 2009, 12:31pm Top

I expect Tim et al shall unlock the "no peeking" on the SantaThing page over the next few days (or maybe when the NORAD gives the all-clear!) but thanks to my SecretSanta for choosing The First Samurai for me. Perfect!

254Nicole_VanK
Dec 25, 2009, 12:52pm Top

Apparently he meant to open it already but:

http://www.librarything.com/topic/80097

Merry Christmas one and all.

255Belladonna1975
Dec 25, 2009, 1:07pm Top

Thank you Secret Santa!!

I got Enchantment and The Children's Book, I can't wait to read them both!!!!

256Phlox72
Dec 26, 2009, 8:53pm Top

No books for me yet so I'm jealous of you all :(

I hope my santee got hers by now though.

257anivyl
Dec 26, 2009, 10:34pm Top

got 4 books now, and they are all beautiful, so thanks to my santa, ladylenneth

258Phlox72
Dec 30, 2009, 12:12pm Top

Is it strange that I haven't received my books yet? I can track online when packages arrive at the address I gave, but so far none have come. Should I worry?

259TheoClarke
Dec 30, 2009, 12:21pm Top

My last book arrived today so I think that there must still be plenty in the mails.

260jjmcgaffey
Dec 31, 2009, 4:35pm Top

I've gotten one but not the other. I wouldn't worry - by January 15, maybe.

261klarusu
Jan 2, 2010, 8:08am Top

Thank you, thank you, thank you (redux). I just got a huge packet of cards through the post today from so many of you ... with goodies ... and a moleskine ... and stickers for Lily. You are all too kind. 2009 was a bit of an uphill struggle for the most part so I was just glad to have to opportunity to be involved with doing something nice for people at the end because I had my share of being on the receiving end at the beginning of the year. But really, it was everyone that made sponsoring Santees so good. I shall mount the cards with pride on my pinboard at work on Monday and I may even post a pic so you can all see how pretty they look.

262MerryMary
Jan 2, 2010, 12:45pm Top

Now I can brag about how clever and devious and secretive we all were! You were surprised! Hooray!

263klarusu
Jan 2, 2010, 1:12pm Top

I was totally surprised! I think you are all far more devious than I give you credit for ... criminal minds in the making ;-) It was the nicest surprise of the season.

264Nicole_VanK
Jan 2, 2010, 1:21pm Top

Well, it certainly was an international conspiracy. ;-)

265lilithcat
Jan 2, 2010, 1:46pm Top

And it was so much fun!

266timspalding
Edited: Jan 2, 2010, 2:06pm Top

Oh, great!

Klarusu: Did you get mine (with Liam). It was in a packet that included these?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/timspalding/4198216999/

But there was no moleskin in it, so I'm worried you still haven't gotten it.

267clamairy
Jan 2, 2010, 2:11pm Top

#226 - *psst* She told me on Twitter she got mine, and mine was in that packet, too.

And, why did she receive a mole's skin. Is this some freakish The Silence of the Lambs kind of thing? ;o)

268timspalding
Edited: Jan 2, 2010, 2:32pm Top

Klarusu: Check out this thread http://www.librarything.com/topic/78113

As you will see, the conspiracy went very deep. :)

NB: You'll notice it's marked as read. I had to sign is as you to see if the feature that was hiding it from you was correctly disabled.

269Fey
Jan 2, 2010, 5:29pm Top

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You are all idiots.

270klarusu
Edited: Jan 2, 2010, 6:21pm Top

Tim @#266, I most certainly did - I left you a profile comment but it bears publicly stating that Liam won the Cutest Card of the Season competition - plus, Lily horned in on the card opening because she thinks Christmas belongs to her and when I got to that one she said 'Ooo, Mama, who that?' with far too much interest ... ;-)) There was a lovely mini-Moleskin in one of the cards in the pack.

ETA I must say that it was a close run thing between Liam and a whole flock of literary chickens ... which were also cute but couldn't actually sign the card so lost out by a beak. ;-)

I'm now going to go and read how your devilish conspiracy took place ...

271timspalding
Edited: Jan 2, 2010, 6:25pm Top

Oh, good. I was terrified we'd send them to the wrong address, or they were trapped under a tire somewhere. Or even tyre.

It was great fun. You were key in starting off a truly tear-inducing spree of holiday altruism, so it was great to turn the tables on you. And, well, people love conspiracies of affection. Members have a good deal more goodwill towards the community than they know what to do with. :)

272leahbird
Jan 3, 2010, 2:24am Top

>270 klarusu:

ETA I must say that it was a close run thing between Liam and a whole flock of literary chickens ... which were also cute but couldn't actually sign the card so lost out by a beak. ;-)

YAY! those are my chickens!!! wahoo! i'm only a little bit sad that Liam beat us in the Cutest Card Comp. the chickens will be thrilled nonetheless. ;)

273klarusu
Jan 3, 2010, 7:50am Top

>272 leahbird:

They are rather superior chickens ... I *love* chickens. I grew up with them. Had a one legged chicken called Hoppy that I used to carry under my arm. My neighbour has some now. I'd love some but we don't know if we're moving abroad over the next year or so - I already have a cat, 2 landsnails and a snake to move so chickens will have to wait.

274Phlox72
Jan 3, 2010, 10:29am Top

Still nothing.

275H0bbes
Edited: Jan 5, 2010, 7:21am Top

Woo hoo. My SantaThing parcels arrived today with 2 lovely selections:Ann Moyal's Platypus: the extraordinary story of how a curious creature baffled the world & Robert K. Massie's Peter the Great: His Life and World. Thanks pontusfreyhult.

276secretlondon
Jan 8, 2010, 1:48pm Top

I did santa twice his year! One of them was delivered in two packages - the final arrived yesterday! However the other one hasn't arrived at all :(

Have there been any messages from the retailers?

277sonyagreen
Edited: Jan 8, 2010, 2:42pm Top

At this point, if anyone is missing books, email me with your username and real name.

sonya@librarything.com

(Please don't send profile comments.)

I'll be able to look up what's happened, or find out from the retailer.

278sonyagreen
Jan 8, 2010, 2:40pm Top

>276 secretlondon: Your books shipped three days ago.

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