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The Take It or Leave It Challenge

75 Books Challenge for 2010

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What it is: It’s a way to expand the kinds of books you are reading within the 75 Books Challenge and give you a way to share your books with others.

What it's not: It’s not just another challenge to add to the long list of your other challenges.

Why it’s called the Take It or Leave It Challenge: You do it if you want to for that month. If you don’t want to do it, you don’t do it. That’s it.

How it works: You may either use my challenge, use one of someone else, or make up your own within the first four days of the month. List the books you read under the challenges you select and mark your books COMPLETED or remove them from the wiki before the end of the month. You do NOT have to read a book from every challenge. Just choose what you'd like to read from the vast array of challenges presented monthly.

Why even do this craziness?! The idea is to challenge yourself to read something different or unexpected. Don't plan ahead; just do it spontaneously from month to month. It's fun to see which of us reads the same book. It's also fun to see who has the most unusual challenge. Feel free to borrow ideas from others or to make suggestions. Talk about a book you share with someone else by visiting that person's thread, on the current month's TIOLI thread, or on a separate dedicated thread. Learn to use the wiki. Suggestion: Always check your TBR pile first when selecting a book!

Is it secret? It's only secret until you discover it! Then you are most welcome to join us.

How can I join the fun? Please return to the link at the very TOP OF THIS THREAD to begin the CURRENT month's challenge.

Dec 30, 2009, 1:35am Top


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Dec 30, 2009, 3:02am Top

I am in!

Dec 30, 2009, 8:39am Top

This sounds like it could be really fun... and has the great possibility for becoming rather hilarious. I'm in!

Dec 30, 2009, 8:48am Top

Ultimately, we (all of us who are in this together) have to make the decision whether this new challenge
will need its own group...

Anyway, have fun picking your book for January. I have mine!

Dec 30, 2009, 8:59am Top

So if I understand this correctly, we choose our own theme read? It doesn't need to be a debut novel? Is that correct?

Dec 30, 2009, 9:21am Top

I am too uninspired right now to make my own challenge. I'll be joining Madeline in reading an author's debut book. I've chosen Haven Kimmel's The Solace of Leaving Early. And, yes, this does sound like a fun way to reduce my TBR stash.

Dec 30, 2009, 12:02pm Top

I'm in. I'm reading a book with a color in the title.

I'd thought about a mini challenge with all sorts of different categories with one book from each and now I can use them with this TIOLI Challenge.

Dec 30, 2009, 12:18pm Top

TIOLI Challenge. Sounds so exotic. Way cool.

Dec 30, 2009, 12:30pm Top

Sounds fun to me.

January 2010: I will also read an author's debut book.

I choose The Beekeeper's Apprentice because I like Sherlock Holmes, and I am trying to expand my reading genre's - I'm pretty low on mysteries.

Dec 30, 2009, 2:20pm Top

What the hey, I'm in too. Somehow I'll try to fit this into my own 1010 challenge which won't be as hard as it sounds.

Dec 30, 2009, 2:30pm Top

I'm in too. I'll do the author's debut novel category. Since I'm also trying to do the Monthly Author Reads, and the January author is Thomas Hardy, I'll read Thomas Hardy's first novel, Desparate Remedies, which is described as a tale of suspense a la Wilkie Collins.

Dec 30, 2009, 2:54pm Top

Great idea, Madeline and I love the acronym....reminds me of Tivoli where I had a great vacation. This sounds like it could be a hoot. I'm in.

I think for my January challenge I'll do all things India : authors, history of or stories set in the country.

Dec 30, 2009, 3:06pm Top

I'll go with an author's debut novel. I have poet Alison Wong's first novel As the earth turns silver waiting to be read and this also fits one of my challenge aims to read more by New Zealand writers.

Dec 30, 2009, 3:22pm Top

My mini challenge will be: Reading a novel by an author I really did not want to read again. It just happens to be the first A from my TBR shelf. Staying true to my first 10 reads of 2010.

Dec 30, 2009, 6:30pm Top

#6: I do not really think we need our own group. I was just thinking a different topic for each mini-challenge per month (so 12 different threads for the year). Just my two cents.

Dec 30, 2009, 7:52pm Top

That sounds like an easy way to go.

Dec 30, 2009, 7:58pm Top

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has the great possibility for becoming rather hilarious.

Yeah. I'm thinking of what odd challenges I can present to all of you. If you have any ideas, feel free to message me (mark the message *private* so no one can see it but me). Part of the fun will be in the surprise. If I like your idea, I might use it in the future.

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Lynda, I find that part of the problem with most challenges is that people feel "locked" into reading something which later they might not want to read. For this challenge, you only have to read one "categorized" book per month. You can either read a book from a category I select (noted at the top of this thread) or you can make up your own categories. If you make up your own categories, place them *prominently* at the top of your 75 Book Challenge thread so others can see them. Others might want to also use the categories you chose for yourself.

This may be confusing at first, but I hope it makes for lots of interaction between all of our threads.

Dec 30, 2009, 8:08pm Top

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Chèli, what color? :)

The TIOLI Challege! That's brilliant!!

One of my favorite books is The Confessions of Max Tivoli and TIOLI reminds me of that book. :D

Dec 30, 2009, 8:12pm Top

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Arubawoman, another fun thing to do is exactly what you're doing. That is to see how many challenges you can fulfill at the same time with only one book.

Hmmmm? That sounds like a contest to me!

Dec 30, 2009, 8:16pm Top

I love everyone's ideas so far. Hope the TIOLI Challenge will make your 75 Books Challenge for 2010 very, very special.

Happy New Year to all!!

Dec 30, 2009, 8:19pm Top

Oh yes see how many challenges you can fulfill at the same time with only one book

That's what I'm talkin' about!

Dec 30, 2009, 9:17pm Top

TIOLI is getting more and more fun! Lessee...first novel, pubbed after 2008 = TIOLI/75 *check*

I got no other challenges! I am so lame.

Dec 30, 2009, 9:18pm Top

Mine will fill a third challenge too, since it will fall into my 1010 category of books written before 1900. :)

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I got no other challenges! I am so lame.

Richard, then you should be able to handle this challenge with no problem!

Dec 30, 2009, 10:02pm Top

So now it's the TTIOLICFTL! Ha!

Dec 30, 2009, 10:03pm Top


Lynda, you're a stitch!

Dec 31, 2009, 12:55am Top

Squeaky -
I thought that since I'm going to be reading The Picture of Dorian Gray it was appropriate for GRAY to be my color.

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This sounds great to me. I'm in!!

I changed mine since I am trying to read more books I already owned.

The debut novel I plan to read is Dana Stabenow's first mystery, A Cold Day for Murder.

Dec 31, 2009, 8:20am Top

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Are you doing a different color every month? With the LT tag system, it would be easy to find such books. All of us here would love to recommend books "of color" as well! :)

Dec 31, 2009, 9:00am Top

I just started reading A Study in Scarlet yesterday, and realized that this can fit into the 'debut novel' category... most excellent! I'm on the way already!

Dec 31, 2009, 1:21pm Top

February, I'm thinking will be a book with a street in the title or a day of the week, or a body of water. Maybe something else entirely.

Dec 31, 2009, 4:31pm Top

Oh I'm excited and ecstatic. My debut novel is a book I already had from the library and wanted to read in January anyway, Still Life by Louise Penny. Oh isn't it beautiful when things actually work out?

Edited: Dec 31, 2009, 5:50pm Top

I've been trying to think of a way that we could each list our book choice for January's TIOLI book on one page as a composite list (without me doing all the work). Ha! I've come up with the idea of all of *you* doing this on a wiki page.

To see how to do this (and, please, do not be afraid of the wiki page!), click on the link I just added to the first post of this thread. The link is called "TIOLI Wiki Page". Then tell me what you think...

Dec 31, 2009, 6:37pm Top

OK Madeline. I tried it twice with the same result. My title comes up next to your name rather than underneath it. I ended up deleting it. Maybe I'm doing something wrong IDK.

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Sorry, Bonnie. My fault. It was a hash tag you needed to add, not a number. The mark-up language is different with a wiki than with HTML. I deleted your line break and added your entry. Feel free to go back and play with it again just to see how it works. It's really kind of fun. As an LT user, you have your own wiki page on which to do whatever you'd like.

Dec 31, 2009, 10:48pm Top

Madeline: I went to the link, and note that the 3 books listed are for author's debut books. What if I'm not doing an author's debut book for January? Do you still want me to list my book in that January list? Or perhaps leave a space in between, put in my category and then list my book?

Dec 31, 2009, 11:01pm Top

>38 SqueakyChu: Uh...what's a hash tag?

Dec 31, 2009, 11:08pm Top

a tag with hash browns on the side?

Dec 31, 2009, 11:23pm Top

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Caroline, go back to the page and make your entry. Put it in Category #2. If someone else has a different category, that can go into a Category #3.

My suggestion would be to make your challenges *very* creative in an effort to entice others to do the same one that you are doing! I started with an easy category, but I might make the categories more challenging as the year goes by. Be original!!

Dec 31, 2009, 11:25pm Top

Huh..be original? I don't have a creative bone in my body ..... being creative will be a challenge in itself! oh the pressure, the pressure ..... *feels the onset of an anxiety attack....breathe...breathe...*

Dec 31, 2009, 11:25pm Top

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Bonnie, # is a hash tag. It is also known as the pound sign.

Dec 31, 2009, 11:26pm Top

*calls a code blue for Caroline*

Dec 31, 2009, 11:40pm Top

*gasps ....takes big gulp of champagne*... Done! Yaay.... now to go lie down from that strenuous mental effort.


Dec 31, 2009, 11:51pm Top

Quick! Call the animal rescue squad!!

Jan 1, 2010, 1:52am Top

that picture is sick.
OK Madeline, I'm in - thanks for the wiki tutorial!

Jan 1, 2010, 2:39am Top

I am so in!

Jan 1, 2010, 10:10am Top

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I think that picture is a composite of more than one picture. I don't believe any kittens were startled in the making of that graphic...

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I think it's very cool that both of you are reading the same book this month! Hope it's a good one.

Jan 1, 2010, 10:24am Top

OK, I think I'm in. I'm doing Madeline's author's debut novel challenge. My mom loaned me Hotel on the Corner of Bitter and Sweet when I was home for Christmas, so I think I'll use that one. I think I put it on the wiki.

I'm looking forward to this! Thanks, Madeline!

Jan 1, 2010, 10:33am Top

You're very welcome. Enjoy!

Jan 1, 2010, 10:49am Top

I may do some of the challenges of the month. But I'm too dumb to do wiki. If I take the time to figure all that out, I won't have time to read . . . :)

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*crosses arms and stares at Terri*

I made using the wiki very* easy.

All you do is click on "edit", add a hash tag (i.e. #), your book title, the author of the book, and your screen name. Then you press "save page". That's it! It will take less than a minute.**

*The directions are also on the wiki page itself.

**Plus, then you can say you have figured out how to use a wiki page! :D

P.S. Try it now. There is nothing that you can do to mess it up as all former pages are saved.

Edited: Jan 1, 2010, 11:03am Top

Just out of curiosity, for how many of you was this your first time using an LT wiki?

Did you know that each of you has your own wiki page here at LT to use as you'd like? It's great for lists, memos, or anything else related to books or reading. If interested in knowing more, check out this wiki Main Page.

Edited: Jan 1, 2010, 11:04am Top

You promise I can't mess it up??? ;)

One of my favorite lines (I can't remember from where) . . . "(that person) could screw up a free lunch" describes me well . . .

I haven't figured out a debut novel to read . . . but I'm joining Cheli in the Dorian Gray read, so that fits the colorful book theme.

OK, I'll try after I get back from the grocery store.

Jan 1, 2010, 11:04am Top

I don't think I even know what a wiki is so it'll be interesting. Obviously my first time using one.

Jan 1, 2010, 11:05am Top

Terri, you *cannot* mess up anything I can't fix afterward

Cheli has not entered that challenge yet, so *you* do it for her. Then add your book. I am not doing all the work here! ;)

Jan 1, 2010, 11:06am Top

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Linda, the wiki is a little gem that's pretty much hidden and known mostly to people who look all over LT for extra things to do here (like me!).

Jan 1, 2010, 11:09am Top

OK, now I'm really confused . . .:(

Jan 1, 2010, 11:15am Top

>55 SqueakyChu:: Confession time...First time wiki user here. What does "wiki" mean or stand for? We word nerds need to know this!!!

Jan 1, 2010, 11:17am Top

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LOL @ Terri!

What are you confused about?

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A "wiki" is simply a web page that anyone can edit and improve.

In other words, I can't edit what you post on message #61, but I can edit what you post on a wiki page. To further clarify, we are all creating/improving one page together.

An example of a large wiki is Wikipedia which is simply an online encyclopedia that anyone can edit. For real!

Jan 1, 2010, 11:24am Top

Terri, if first-time wiki user Donna can do it, you can do it, too! :)

Jan 1, 2010, 12:26pm Top

Good idea, but I think this is the same as my category #10 - the Make up your Mind challenge, where i list a bunch of challenges I'd like to join but can't decide, so I'm picking a couple here and there. I think I'm just going to add this to my list of MUYM, and then follow whatever you choose for the month. I have several debuts on my TBR, ArC, and RFMS challeneges, so I'll do that one easily. If I can take the time to figure out the wiki thingie, I'll post. If not, I think it works just as well, if people post on their regular thread that this one is for the TIOLI mini challenge at the beginning of whatever post they make as they report the book.

Jan 1, 2010, 12:33pm Top

Glad you're joining us, Tina.

Do not fear the wiki! The one advantage I see of posting your selection there is that others may wish to do the same challenge/book that you choose. Then all of you can do it together!

Jan 1, 2010, 12:44pm Top

One of my reading goals this year is to read all the books I've borrowed from others or been lent by them (there is a difference...). My mother-in-law lent me Francesca Kay's An Equal Stillness. This is her debut novel, I believe, and also was shortlisted for the Orange New Writing prize in 2009. So I can count it for TIOLI, towards my personal reading goals, and as part of Orange January. Bonus!

Jan 1, 2010, 12:47pm Top

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Yes!! That's the idea, Rachael!

Jan 1, 2010, 12:50pm Top

Wow....just had my first 'acquire new skill' for the New Year! I'm in, and have put my book Death at La Fenice on the WIKI. I've read lots of Leon's book, but never got around to reading the 1st which is sitting on my TBR shelf. I love multi=tasking. Enjoy the Rose Bowl everyone while reading of course

Jan 1, 2010, 12:54pm Top

Gar!!!! More challenges :) I really want to do this as well, but can anyone think of a very short 1001 (either list) book that is a debut novel? I have a large TBR pile this month but still want to play!

Jan 1, 2010, 1:14pm Top

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I did a tagmash of "debut" and "1001 books", here is what I got. You'll need to check this information for accuracy, though.

Jan 1, 2010, 1:16pm Top

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Hooray for Tina's new skill! :)

Jan 1, 2010, 1:26pm Top

#71 Ta! It might have to be God of small things since that is also on my half read/determined to read pile! Unfortunately I think it might have dissapeared under the computer.....hmmmm...

Jan 1, 2010, 1:31pm Top


Jan 1, 2010, 2:19pm Top

I'm relatively new to LT, but the challenges I have found so far have really expanded my reading interests, so I'm in. I guess I'm lazy and really don't want to expend the energy of creating my own mini challenges (I would just end up "creating" a challenge to fit the book I had in my hands at the time), and maybe I'm a lemming - so I'll just do what SqueakyChu is doing. I think the first challenge is a great one, and since I got Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time from my LT Secret Santa, it will be my January debut author read. Can't wait to see what you come up with for February.

Jan 1, 2010, 2:26pm Top

#51 : Hey porchy...I'm reading Hotel on the Corner of the Bitter and Sweet right now and so far, I'm loving it.

#54 : I can just see you, Madeline, standing there, stern frown on your face, tapping your foot and lightly drumming your fingers on the table ..... LOL......

Jan 1, 2010, 4:18pm Top

Well here's a shock for you Madeline. I'm a first time wiki user and will check out my own wiki sometime but right now I have to try to get through the gazillion posts I'm trying to read just since I was on here last night at 11:00 p.m. Do you people ever sleep or read???

Jan 1, 2010, 4:26pm Top

. . .but right now I have to try to get through the gazillion posts I'm trying to read just since I was on here last night at 11:00 p.m. Do you people ever sleep or read???

I'm relieved to see you say that, Bonnie. I was thinking the same thing! :)

Jan 1, 2010, 5:17pm Top

I put my book in. That wasn't too hard.

Jan 1, 2010, 5:23pm Top

77 & 78 - individually, we most certainly do - collectively, however, we are indeed omnipresent!

Jan 1, 2010, 6:19pm Top

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LOL! No, Bonnie. I almost never sleep or read. ;)

Jan 1, 2010, 6:33pm Top

Madeline, I love it that you're teaching everyone to use the wiki!

Jan 1, 2010, 6:40pm Top

Did you notice how easy I made it for them? :)

Jan 1, 2010, 6:46pm Top

Very easy!

I've just added my own challenge: A book in a foreign language. I'm working on Voyage au centre de la terre by Jules Verne.

Jan 1, 2010, 7:27pm Top

My first time. Very easy indeed!

Jan 1, 2010, 8:05pm Top

I'm going over to enter now, I sent the whole day with my grandson, so no reading until now, (he's off t o bed)

Jan 1, 2010, 8:19pm Top

I'm in! And now I can explore the WikiThing, how cool.

Challenge #6: First successful work for an author

Scaramouche - Rafael Sabatini - lauranav

Jan 1, 2010, 10:37pm Top

I did it! :-) The wiki thing!

You did, indeed, make it easy!

Jan 2, 2010, 1:04am Top

Yay, I'm in too. And I've managed the Wiki! (I think …)

Jan 2, 2010, 4:56am Top

#77: Do you people ever sleep or read???

Sleep - no. Read - definitely!

Jan 2, 2010, 6:42pm Top

OK - I can see right now that this group is going to be dangerous for me. Another challenge added to the list that wasn't going to grow anymore... lol. I'm going to just go ahead with the initial idea for a debut author, as I just started Gail Carriger's Soulless, which will now nicely fill up 3 challenge categories for me!

Jan 2, 2010, 6:58pm Top

Yeah, but this challenge only involves *one* book ...(at a time!)


Jan 2, 2010, 7:22pm Top

And that is a beautiful thing!

Jan 2, 2010, 8:07pm Top

*sigh* I was wondering at my insanity as well in signing up for yet another challenge. My excuse for the momentary loss of sanity is that I haven't had a whole week off work in a very long time, and I forgot that once I get back to work again, my time is going to be horribly stretched.

But ever the optimist, I'm going to of course find opportunities to read books that will cross all my challenges. ;-) Would that be considered cheating? I hope not.

Jan 2, 2010, 8:19pm Top

I'm going to of course find opportunities to read books that will cross all my challenges. ;-) Would that be considered cheating? I hope not.

Not cheating at all. It's brilliant, and it is, in and of itself, another (......ta da!) challenge. Ha!!

Jan 2, 2010, 8:26pm Top

I am an unwitting victim caught in Madeline's web of challenges ... heelp!!

Jan 2, 2010, 9:18pm Top


Jan 3, 2010, 5:35am Top

Hi everyone. I'm going to try and read Fatherland by Robert Harris in January which I think (having checked wikipedia) would count as an author's debut book.

Jan 3, 2010, 8:38am Top

One of the fun things about this particular challenge is the opportunity to learn just which book of an author's is his or her debut one. Hope all of you are discovering some interesting books.

Jan 3, 2010, 9:47am Top

I've just added mine to the list. Interesting mini-theme appearing with the first few books...

(By the way, this was my first time editing the LT wiki, although not my first time editing any wiki.)

Jan 3, 2010, 10:11am Top

i told myself no reading challenges for me in 2010 -- i failed dismally last year and don't want that to happen 2 years in a row, but this TIOLI challenge seems to be very doable...and fun! what the heck, i'm joining in...

Jan 3, 2010, 10:11am Top

Interesting mini-theme

"Cold: Adventures in the World's Frozen Places"

"A Cold Day for Murder"


I was thinking of that as well - as it's 14 degrees in the Washington, DC, area now!

We might need a warmer theme for February. :)

Jan 3, 2010, 12:54pm Top

#102, actually, I've been thinking of doing double "mini-challenges" with the same word in the title, for instance, pairing A Cold Day for Murder with A Cold Day in Paradise by Steve Hamilton. I think that's his debut book as well.

For instance, two favorite cozy mystery authors have books out this year with the word "Mortem" in them so maybe, later in the year, read Toast Mortem by Claudia Bishop and Roast Mortem by Cleo Coyle.

Edited: Jan 3, 2010, 12:57pm Top

A very cool (cold, perhaps?) and creative idea!

Warning: Just be sure that the books you use for the mini-challenges are worthwhile reading and that you're not just reading them for a word in the title.

Jan 3, 2010, 12:59pm Top

Very true. I think part of the challenge is finding worthwhile books that fit the double word title theme. I have both Cold books in my 1010 challenge, at least, and I like both authors writing Mortem titles.

Jan 3, 2010, 1:21pm Top

It's fun to see how this challenge is developing and how each of us is stimulating others to reach for a "different" book along the way.

Jan 3, 2010, 1:39pm Top

I think one of my challenges is to not be drawn into reading as many dud books as I did last year. Recommendations from LTers are pretty solid, so that's saved me from getting a few books I'd otherwise have picked up, but there were still some unworthy of my time that I borrowed from the library or bought because their synopsis sounded interesting.

Edited: Jan 3, 2010, 2:12pm Top

A good idea, in response to "there were still some unworthy of my time" is to simply decide not to finish books that evoke such a response from you. Your time is valuable, the challenges should be fun, and your reading should be exciting. Even though "Recommendations from LTers are pretty solid", you still need to decide for yourself which book makes good reading material and which does not. The biggest "challenge" of all these challenges, in my opinion, is to find some fresh, startling, and fulfilling reading. You have the advantage of finding others who like to read similar books to yourself and then following up on recommendations of those people. Usually ... they're right on the money!

Jan 3, 2010, 5:53pm Top

I just finished a great year of reading with mostly 4 and 5 star reads based loosely on LT recs and my own reading of prize winners and one critic who's opinion I really trust. Not enough time to waste it on books that don't completely satisfy.

Jan 3, 2010, 10:23pm Top

True, Madeline ... but sometimes I just need to finish the book even though I'm not enjoying it much because I think, maybe, just maybe, it'll pick up, dust off its growing pains and become a real book before the end. On occasion this has happened. But more often then not, i'm completely disgusted with the author for writing drivel, angry with the publishers for distributing it, and annoyed with myself for not giving up on it sooner. Then there are occasions when I will give up halfway because I'm completely fed up with the book.

Jan 4, 2010, 11:22am Top

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Jan 4, 2010, 5:26pm Top

I'll often push myself to read a book for the same reasons as #110. I think in the end, it isn't a waste of time, as it provides us with a measurement against which we can say - ah ! Now THIS is a good one as opposed to that awful one I read last week.

Jan 4, 2010, 5:34pm Top

I'm in! This sounds awesome. I am going to go with reading an authors debut novel. I'll be reading Elynia by David Michael Belczyk

Jan 4, 2010, 5:40pm Top

Just an FYI: I'm already planning next month's TIOLI challenge and it's going to be a tough one!

Jan 4, 2010, 11:30pm Top

Bring it on, Madeline, bring it on ... we 75ers spit in the face of tough, our muscles tighten in anticipation of the fight and we drool uncontrollably and chew leather in preparation.

.............. err......how tough?

Jan 4, 2010, 11:58pm Top

The category will be a fun one, but the pickin's are slim. You'll see. I'll announce it at the end of the month (last 5 days of January).

In the meantime, toughen up! :)

Jan 5, 2010, 6:35pm Top

Almost finished with my debut novel and it's a good one, Still Life by Louise Penny, the first book in her Three Pines series.

Jan 5, 2010, 8:09pm Top

Great, Bonnie! It'll take a while for me to even start mine.

I'm wondering... With the debut novels that everyone's been picking, have you read any other books by the same author, or is your TIOLI challenge book your first by that author?

Jan 5, 2010, 8:32pm Top

>118 SqueakyChu: Madeline,

This is the first novel by Penny for me but so many people had raved about the series I wanted to give it a whirl. Getting anxious to learn what the challenge for Feb. is going to be. Don't wait too long if it's going to be difficult to find.

Jan 5, 2010, 8:35pm Top

>118 SqueakyChu:
I didn't sign up for "debut novel" but I probably should have since I am picking up Purple Hibiscus by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie at the library tomorrow and that is her debut novel and my first book by her.

I did sign up to read the first successful work by Rafael Sabatini, Scaramouche and it will be my second book by him, since I read Captain Blood last month.

Jan 5, 2010, 8:56pm Top

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Thinkg you'll be reading more books in that series then?

Sorry! You just have to wait. :D

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Well, then sign up immediately (!) for Purple Hibiscus.

You may do more than one if you'd like. One's enough for me, though...

Jan 6, 2010, 1:25am Top

#118: My TIOLI challenge book, The Echoing Cliffs, is the first I have read by the author.

Jan 6, 2010, 2:30am Top

Madeline, fellow TIOLIites, and world: I just finished my first-novel challenge book for January and reviewed it in my thread in post #147: http://www.librarything.com/topic/79243#1699124

I have the awfulest feeling of "oh damn, where are all the editors?" as I read books now. And I know where they are: Unemployed. It's ungood! Double-plus ungood! I'm thinking of organizing a Two Minutes' Hate for the profit-motivated layoffs of the few remaining cicerones to the creative seeker.

Jan 6, 2010, 2:40am Top

>102 SqueakyChu:, it turns out my read wasn't saved, for some reason. We now have three 'cold' books being read in January!

Jan 6, 2010, 2:47am Top


*stands up and applauds*

Jan 6, 2010, 2:51am Top

*makes a leg*

Why, thank you, kind madam!

Jan 6, 2010, 3:00am Top

You just made me nearly snort my smoothie! Which would have been v messy...

Jan 6, 2010, 3:08am Top

Not to mention aesthetically undesirable, if you're in a public place....

Jan 6, 2010, 4:22am Top

I have read Chris Cleave's debut novel Incendiary for January's challenge. I had already read his second novel The Other Hand last year which I loved. This one was ok, but not as good as the one I'd already read.

Jan 6, 2010, 5:52am Top

I can take part in this as I'm reading a debut book - all I have to do now is see if I can enter it to the wiki ;-)

Just in case I fail - I am reading Vernon God Little by DBC Pierre.

Jan 6, 2010, 8:45am Top

>122 SqueakyChu: - I added Purple Hibiscus and then saw another one I'm reading this month is also a debut work so I added The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Nighttime too.

Jan 6, 2010, 8:57am Top

I just finished The Story of Edgar Sawtelle by David Wroblewski, so I guess that counts for the debut novel challenge this month!

Jan 6, 2010, 9:09am Top

I'm just starting my second debut novel this month - The Magicians and Mrs. Quent by Galen Beckett. My first debut novel was a reread - Storm Front by Jim Butcher - I own all of the Dresden files books, including all of the anthologies, and all of the Codex Alera.

Jan 6, 2010, 10:14am Top

I just realized that I'm going to start reading what will be my second debut novel tonight---Purple Hibiscus which I'm also reading for orange January:-)

Jan 6, 2010, 10:41am Top

Okay, I this is my kind of challenge thread! I love things that I can totally flake out on with no consequences, but in the meantime, I am looking for a debut book. Sweet! Thanks for the idea! :)

Jan 6, 2010, 10:49am Top

>>136 beserene: - Soulless could count as your first book. That's what I'm using for mine!

Jan 6, 2010, 10:52am Top

I finished my debut novel last night and am processing it before I write my review. It's called The Solace of Leaving Early by Haven Kimmel. I haven't read anything else by her, but own her memoir, Zippy-something, and am eager to read that now.

>135 brenzi:: Loved Purple Hibiscus, Bonnie. Are there any other overachievers (said with a smile) that are going to read more than one book for the TIOLI challenge?

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>138 Donna828: I loved both of Haven Kimmel's memoirs, She Got Up Off the Couch and A Girl Named Zippy.

"overachiever" Seriously. I just hit it lucky filling two categories at once, Donna. That's a little competition I'm playing with myself;-)

Jan 6, 2010, 1:03pm Top

I've now reviewed my first debut book Still Life (not the right touchstone) by Louise Penny. If anyone's interested it's here.

Jan 6, 2010, 4:19pm Top

I'll be giving this one a go! I think I'll try a different category for January - a book with a number in the title, so I'll be reading Jodi Picoult's 19 Minutes.

Jan 6, 2010, 5:08pm Top

>>>137 tapestry100:: Genius! I forgot that Soulless was a debut novel.

Hey, I already fulfilled a challenge! Wow, I am so good! ;)

I'll note my TIOLI challenges on my main list in the 75-Books group too (in case anyone is interested, here is the link: http://www.librarything.com/topic/81289). Cross-pollination can be fun.

Jan 6, 2010, 6:02pm Top

I really liked The Solace of Leaving Early. This is a book I picked up for $1.00 at our library book sale and just added it to my stash without really looking into it. I'll definitely be reading more books by Haven Kimmel in the near future. My review is here. I gave it 4.5 stars. High praise indeed.

Jan 6, 2010, 6:57pm Top

>>> 142: I want EVERYONE in this room to note the beserene just said I was a genius. A genius! There may come a day when I will have to remind her of this moment. =D

Jan 6, 2010, 8:12pm Top

*looks around this challenge thread*

It's getting kind of confusing here - *just* the way I like it!

Believe it or not, I'd been thinking of ways to get the TIOLI challenge more confusing, but I thought I'd hold off for a while just to see how it develops all by itself... :)

Jan 6, 2010, 8:14pm Top

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Thoughts to Ponder:

"All first novels are flawed. In fact, almost all anythings are flawed."

So says richardderus (Hi, Richard!). I know some of you have already read your debut book(s). In what ways have you found that debut book to be flawed? Do you agree with Richard's statement? Why or why not?

P.S. If your book is in a different challege than the "debut book", feel free to add your own Thoughts to Ponder to this thread. If you add any, do add those words in bold so they stand out to highlight your discussion questions. They can be fun questions or serious questions. Your choice. Thanks!

Jan 6, 2010, 9:35pm Top

>147 SqueakyChu: Hey Madeline!

Jan 6, 2010, 11:14pm Top

To date, 32 people have signed up for the TIOLI challenge. A very nice feature of it is that 75-ers can now more often plan to read the same book as other 75-ers because of how we have a composite list of TIOLI books on the wiki.

If you're undecided about what to read currently, take a look at the wiki, and join someone else there by reading the very same book!

Jan 7, 2010, 10:25am Top

Well if my debut novel Still Life by Louise Penny was flawed, I didn't discover what the flaw was. Now as I said on some other thread, probably Richard's, there's a big difference between a first novel and an author's first published novel. Most authors have written at least one other novel that's gathering dust in a closet somewhere as a reject, before they are published for the first time.

From what I've read from other LT'ers Penny's Three Pine series of mysteries gets even better as it goes along but since it was a breakaway from the typical little mystery, where the characters have no depth and you figure out the mystery long, long before the end of the book I'm not sure what flaw I could come up with for this book. I guess I'll have to give it some more thought.

Jan 7, 2010, 10:36am Top

brenzi, the Louise Penny books definitely improve with each book. That's one series where it's absolutely important to read them in order. The characters change so much--things happen to them and each book builds upon the previous one.

Saying anything more would be a spoiler.

Jan 7, 2010, 1:23pm Top

*pokes mailbox to see if Penny's books mysteriously generated themselves after mailman's visit*


Jan 7, 2010, 1:40pm Top

I am going to do a book with a real-life author as a main character. It was between The Master by Colm Toibin (about Henry James) and The Blue Flower by Penelope Fitzgerald (Novalis). I selected The Blue Flower. Fun idea for a different kind of way to set up challenges!

Jan 7, 2010, 4:14pm Top

#151: I completely agree with that! I am so glad that I read them in order before I realized it really was necessary to read them that way. My OCD saved me there, lol.

Jan 7, 2010, 10:53pm Top

Two TIOLI books made it to the hot reviews tonight. They are The Solace of Leaving Early reviewed by DonnaReads and Still Life reviewed by brenzi. Congrats!

Jan 9, 2010, 1:54pm Top

Contemplation time...

I didn't realize that so many of you would be joining me in my challenge. That's great! Now here comes the question:

Is it time to move this Challenge to a Group instead of a thread on the 75 Books Challenge for us alone? Since everyone gets to input his own information on the wiki, all it would take for me to do is to set up a new wiki each month after the group is established.

I wish I had a yes/no poll like Tim has. :)

Anyway, should I make this TIOLI Challenge a group?

Jan 9, 2010, 3:36pm Top

I think if we have a separate thread each month that would work, but if you look at it another way, if you make a separate group, some people who are not part of this group might participate as well. Some people are intimated by the "75" number so they aren't part of the group and may not know of this much easier challenge.

Jan 9, 2010, 3:40pm Top

Yeah, what cyderry said.

Jan 9, 2010, 5:57pm Top

Whatever, doesn't matter, can't commit, no help here:O

Jan 9, 2010, 7:46pm Top

4 days .... just 4 days .... that's all and what happens? 43 posts since I last visited. *groans*

I've been busy with some great reads that I've reviewed in my thread, but now that I've got those books out of the way, I guess I'll get started on my TIOLI challenge read tomorrow.

To jump in on the discussion re Group vs Thread on the 75ers Group, I agree in principle on what Cheli said, but in my selfishness, I kinda hope this stays in the 75 Group because this is the one I check most often. I only check out threads in the other groups I've joined when I have spare time, which, during the weekdays is just about non-existent because of work. But I'll go along with whatever makes the most sense for everyone.

Jan 9, 2010, 9:13pm Top

#156: I am with Caroline (selfishly, I guess). I really hope it stays in the 75 group because I will probably lose the thread if it has its own group simply because this is where I spend my time.

Jan 9, 2010, 9:16pm Top

I finished my second debut novel, Purple Hibiscus by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie and it was very good. My review is here.

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4 days .... just 4 days .... that's all and what happens? 43 posts since I last visited. *groans*

Oops. Sorry, Caroline!


So... two for a new group and two for separate threads here on the 75ers. How does that help me decide?! ;)

Edited: Jan 10, 2010, 1:09am Top

Are you ready for your first complication? Hehe!

I'm adding a Point Value to the Take It or Leave It Challenge. If you look at the wiki, you'll see a notice (at the bottom of the page) that, if one person reads the same book as another person, the point value of this challenge will increase. Why? Because two (or more) people reading one book at the same time will be more apt to discuss it with one another. The point value of January's challenge now stands at 5. Is anyone here going to raise it?

Jan 10, 2010, 8:31am Top

I have an additional complication. Without meaning to, I've just read two debut novels ... while my planned read hasn't even arrived from Amazon yet. Do I get bonus points for being so tuned in to the challenge that it subconsciously affected the books I picked from the shelf?

Jan 10, 2010, 9:16am Top

Hehe! That is indeed an additional complication. I'll think about adding points for that in the future, but first I want to see how the point system goes first before I add any more complicating factors. Okay?

Jan 10, 2010, 11:46am Top

I'm starting to get an anxiety attack from all these additional factors.

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You needn't worry about "additional factors". Just list your book(s).

I'm doing the points for fun. You do not need to add them, worry about them, or even look at them. If you find them fun, you may do the addition (but stop counting at the end of the month). Take them or leave them!

Cute graphic, by the way! :)

Jan 10, 2010, 12:17pm Top

Interesting re. the additional points but I'll just worry about the reading.

I was planning to read two books with the same title but now I think my plan will be to read the book I intended (I'm about a third a of the way through my planned TIOLI book, A Cold Day for Murder) and then peruse the rest of the list and maybe pick an extra book or two.

Jan 10, 2010, 2:00pm Top

Please keep the challenge here on the 75 thread - It adds to the flavour and fun of the group. I probably wouldn't follow if it was a stand alone group.

Jan 10, 2010, 2:45pm Top

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Will do! That's my decision for this year.

Jan 10, 2010, 6:05pm Top

My suggestion that if it stays here, you have a separate thread for each month.

Jan 10, 2010, 6:12pm Top

I'm not sure about the point part of the challenge. Like some others, I'm just "in" for the reading. However, I did join Faith (dk_phoenix) in reading A Study in Scarlet and added it to the wiki.

I'm happy with the challenge wherever you want to put it, Madeline, and I agree with Cheli (Msg. 172) that we probably need a new thread per month.

Jan 10, 2010, 7:53pm Top

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I absolutely will do that!

Jan 10, 2010, 7:59pm Top

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I thought about the "point part" as a way of rating our connections to one another. I know that, for myself, the 75 books challenge is a *huge* group in which I'm not going to follow the threads of most participants. I will, however, notice who's reading the same book as I am and will probably want to make some comments about that book on the other person's thread. I think of the points more as a "connectedness rating", but do disregard it completely if you'd like. I put it there as something fun for me. You can just glance at the number from time to time, if you'd like! :)

Jan 10, 2010, 9:10pm Top

Okay, I get it now -- and I do like the idea of connecting with others. I'm off to drop Faith a note about A Study in Scarlet now. Thanks for clarifying the point system, Madeline, and for taking the time to create a fun and interesting way to challenge ourselves more in our reading.

Jan 10, 2010, 10:08pm Top

I finished my TIOLI book, just now. Dana Stabenow's first mystery, A Cold Day for Murder was excellent. It's from 1992 but I can see why it's such a long-running series.

A strong sense of place and interesting characters. Now, I'd like to read the other Alaskan mystery author, Sue Henry. I think her first one is Murder on the Iditarod Trail.

Jan 11, 2010, 9:02am Top

Finished Soulless by Gail Carriger for my debut book, and loved it!!

Jan 11, 2010, 11:05am Top

I just realized that the book I just finished - A Wish in Time was Laurel Bradley's first book. So a three for one shot - a Romance title for my "Read Around the Library" challenge (run by my local library), a Scotland read for my Endless European Challenge, and now a TIOLI bonus for debut novel.

Jan 11, 2010, 1:52pm Top

I'm really glad you've decided to keep the challenge within the group! I think that does a lot to increase the "connectedness factor", because it's one group of people doing multiple things together.

Madeline, for future polls, you can put "vote" in html tags around the question of the poll. It's not officially released yet and Tim said we should hold off on using it... but he also said that he was going to release it the following day. I think it would be harmless in contexts like this.

Also, I ended up reading a debut novel too--Elisha's Bones by Don Hoesel. This was also a (belated) ER book. I'm glad I've finally read it, though I can't say I recommend it.

I'm planning to read Soulless as well--I went out and bought it just a couple of days ago, but haven't had a chance to start yet. Hopefully I'll get to it in January.

As for my own TIOLI challenge of reading a novel in a foreign language, I haven't made much progress there yet....

Jan 11, 2010, 1:53pm Top

Also: are we supposed to distinguish on the TIOLI list between books we plan to read and books we've actually read?

Jan 11, 2010, 1:56pm Top

Aaaand another question: what do you think about (optionally) including links to the work pages in the list?

Jan 11, 2010, 4:33pm Top

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As for my own TIOLI challenge of reading a novel in a foreign language, I haven't made much progress there yet....

Distracted, are ya? :)

I'll have to try out the vote next time, but I'm not sure how you mean to put it in HTML tags.

Jan 11, 2010, 4:33pm Top

I'm adding Purple Hibiscus to my January first-novel reads, and also a long-delayed Beasts of No Nation read...I've read the first 20pp, then shelved the book due to time demands, and it's finally become necessary to read it.

Jan 11, 2010, 4:35pm Top

Also: are we supposed to distinguish on the TIOLI list between books we plan to read and books we've actually read?

I don't want to tend the store in this challenge. I think it's actually better to put books that you plan to read in the hope that others will join you in reading the same books. At the end of the month, I'd also hope that you would delete any book that you have not, in fact, finished before the end of the month. I'll add this to the rules...

Jan 11, 2010, 4:36pm Top

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You may add the link to the work page if you know how to do it. I was starting simply so that new participants would NOT FEAR the wiki! :)

Jan 11, 2010, 4:38pm Top

Bah... I keep getting sidetracked with other books and I've only just started on my January challenge read for TIOLI.

Jan 11, 2010, 4:50pm Top

OK, I'm in, since the TIOLI challenge won't add to my other reading "goals" for this year. So for this challenge, January, 2010, an author's debut book, I'm reading The Moonflower Vine, originally published in 1962. Not only was it Jetta Carleton's debut book, it was her only book. Someone has likened it to To Kill a Mockingbird, another debut and "only."

Full disclosure: I'm also reading this book for my Missouri Readers group. So I guess I'm killing about 3 birds with one stone here.

Jan 11, 2010, 5:09pm Top

>188 labwriter: I so very much admire efficiency. That's a trifecta of reading! You know how much that PAYS?!

Jan 11, 2010, 5:53pm Top

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Jan 11, 2010, 9:33pm Top

>183 SqueakyChu: I don't really know the proper terminology... in the triangular brackets where you would normally put "b" or "i" or whatever, you put "vote" instead.

I'll go back and add some work links (though maybe not immediately). Do you think anyone would be offended if I added links for what they're reading too?

Jan 11, 2010, 9:35pm Top


Vote: Did I do this correctly?

Current tally: Yes 14, No 1

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I guess you did Madeline:) I voted.

Edited: Jan 11, 2010, 9:39pm Top

That was easy!! It was fun, too!

I *will* use it next time...

Vote: Would you be offended if Zoe linked your TIOLI book data to its work page?

Current tally: Yes 1, No 18

Jan 11, 2010, 9:39pm Top

That is too cool! :D

Jan 11, 2010, 9:41pm Top

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Jan 11, 2010, 9:41pm Top

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LOL at Bonnie! Isn't this fun?!

Jan 11, 2010, 9:42pm Top

It won't let me double vote!! I *did* test it. :)

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Vote: Squeakychu wants to know if this is fun

Current tally: Yes 17, No 2

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Zoe, I did the work link to my own book as an example and added a small explanation at the bottom. Feel free to go wild with the links, if you want! So far no one has yet been offended. Ha!

Jan 11, 2010, 10:04pm Top

Okay, I've added a few to start. And I'll do some more tomorrow... I have a feeling that I won't want to stop until they're all done!

Jan 11, 2010, 10:05pm Top


Jan 11, 2010, 10:06pm Top

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??? @ Caroline! ;)

P.S. Do the vote just like any other HTML (B, I, etc.), but put the word vote in the opening pointed brackets and put /vote in the closing pointed brackets.

Jan 11, 2010, 10:08pm Top

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Jan 11, 2010, 10:09pm Top

Zoe, you know what would look good? If you'd get rid of the links except for the duplicate books. That would make them stand out!

Jan 11, 2010, 10:11pm Top

That's true... but then, I think we want to encourage other books to become duplicates too :). I wonder if there's some other way to highlight the duplicates? Bolding, or listing the duplicates together in another place as well?

Jan 11, 2010, 10:14pm Top

OK don't be offended,I voted the "opposite way" on all those votes just to test them properly. It works!

Jan 11, 2010, 10:15pm Top

I think the best way is just to italicize them.

Jan 11, 2010, 10:15pm Top

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I'm offended! ;)

Jan 11, 2010, 10:18pm Top

I'd be fine with italics, I think.

>208 Milda-TX: Have you tested the "cancel" button yet? Hehe.

Jan 11, 2010, 10:18pm Top

I thought I'd try out the vote thing because it looked like fun ..... not surprising, I failed with a big fat F! I'm an html dunce.

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I italicized Astrid & Veronika. I think *not* to bold them because I don't want them to be too different than the other books listed.

Whatcha think?

Jan 11, 2010, 10:19pm Top

>212 cameling: Nah, that just means we failed at explaining it!

It should look like (vote)Do you agree with this question?(/vote), but with triangular brackets.

Jan 11, 2010, 10:21pm Top

Caroline, it's easy. Just do this:

{vote}Can Caroline do this?{/vote}

However, do NOT use the curlicue brackets. Use the pointed brackets (the ones one the comma and period keys of your keyboard).

Jan 11, 2010, 10:21pm Top

LOL at our explanations!!

Jan 11, 2010, 10:22pm Top

Vote: Can you teach a someone with a brain cramp a new trick?

Current tally: Yes 9, No 3

Jan 11, 2010, 10:22pm Top

How do you get different answer options? Or are you restricted to 'yes' and 'no'?

Jan 11, 2010, 10:23pm Top

>213 SqueakyChu: Oh, difficult decisions! I'm not sure what I think about the italics. For comparison, I added an asterisk to The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time.

Jan 11, 2010, 10:24pm Top

Wiki page is looking good, folks!

Jan 11, 2010, 10:24pm Top

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*I* just tested the cancel button. I cancelled my vote and changed it. If we can do that, how will we ever be able to get a definitive answer about anything?! :)

Jan 11, 2010, 10:24pm Top

>218 wandering_star: Yeah, it's just yes or no. The feature isn't even officially released yet, so it may get better eventually... of course, it may also end up with confusing new syntax!

Jan 11, 2010, 10:24pm Top

SUCCESS !! I wish to thank my wonderful teachers Zoe and Madeline, without whom I would still be floundering at the bottom of the dunce swamp. *happy sob* You guys are the best! *sniffle*

And now for the happy dance!

Jan 11, 2010, 10:25pm Top


Jan 11, 2010, 10:26pm Top

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So far, we are restricted to "Yes" and "No". Of course, then we can cancel and keep changing our answers. :)

Jan 11, 2010, 10:26pm Top

*Zoe and Madeline take a bow*

Jan 11, 2010, 10:27pm Top

I've been having fun voting and wiki-watching. I hereby give my permission to do whatever you want to do with my humble offerings. I'm just glad somebody other than me is in charge of this because I am a real dunce at computereze.

Jan 11, 2010, 10:28pm Top

I just think it's great that in addition to learning about books I am also getting a grounding in basic html...

Jan 11, 2010, 10:36pm Top

Zoe, why do some books have the leading asterisk? Do you like that better than the italics?

Jan 11, 2010, 10:38pm Top

Oh, I think my message 219 got lost in the excitement of the voting ;). I was comparing them to see how they look, but I'm not sure. What do you think?

Jan 11, 2010, 10:41pm Top

Anyway, I think it's time to actually read some books! I'll be happy with whatever you decide on to mark the multi-person reads.

Jan 11, 2010, 10:58pm Top

I'm going to go with the asterisks as they're easier to spot.

Jan 11, 2010, 11:06pm Top

>232 SqueakyChu: Good! *whew*

Jan 11, 2010, 11:16pm Top

I have not got a clue what is going on with all this voting and stuff and I think I am happy that way :)

Jan 11, 2010, 11:25pm Top

You're right, Stasia. Keep life simple... :D

Jan 11, 2010, 11:26pm Top

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Who's going to be offended?

Jan 12, 2010, 8:47am Top

>236 SqueakyChu: I think that was just Milda voting the opposite way in all polls (mentioned in 208).

Jan 12, 2010, 8:49am Top

Phew! :)

Jan 13, 2010, 12:22am Top

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Jan 13, 2010, 12:22am Top

I switched books. I thought it would be fun to read the same book as someone else too! :)

Jan 13, 2010, 12:45am Top

We have several people reading the same books now. Check the point value at the bottom of the wiki page to see how you can make that value go up even more! :D

Jan 13, 2010, 8:50am Top

Some updates (also posted to the wiki):

1. There are now three options to add point value to this challenge.
2. You may, if you'd like, link your book to its work page. To learn how to do it, just follow the example of others on the wiki "edit" page (learn a new wiki skill!).
3. You may change your choice of book at any time.
4. If you add "TIOLI" as a tag to your book, That book might be considered by others for future challenges.
5. Remember to delete any unfinished book at the end of the month. You may use the unfinished book in the following month's challenge (only if it fits!).

Jan 13, 2010, 9:49am Top

I added links for Purple Hibiscus, The Solace of Leaving Early and Scaramouche
I also added my name to reading The Solace of Leaving Early

I didn't add to the total point value when I added my entry for The Solace of Leaving Early.

Heading off to add TIOLI tags.

Jan 13, 2010, 10:30am Top

I hope you enjoy the Kimmel book, Laura. Thanks for adding the link to the work page.

Jan 13, 2010, 11:11am Top

So I am going to try this as well. My planned book is an author's debut book (I think - I couldn't find anything saying it wasn't and there isn't a bibliography anywhere for him that I could find). It will also fulfill my TBR challenge and my 1010 challenge. Clapton: The Autobiography by Eric Clapton. If anyone knows that this isn't his first book, could you please let me know? I'm still going to read it (despite the awful things I've heard about it), I'd just like to know.


Jan 13, 2010, 11:22am Top

I see that Tina (tututhefirst) is reading Donna Leon's first mystery Death at La Fenice. I've heard such rave reviews about Donna Leon that I think I will read this one next.

Not sure who is supposed to add to the point totals so I did not do so.

Jan 13, 2010, 11:36am Top

>246 lindapanzo: Linda, oh my! I really hope you'll love Commissario Brunetti as much as I've come to, and Leon will have a new addict.

I like the idea of adding TIOLI tags. Off to do it.

Jan 13, 2010, 1:55pm Top

I've finished and reviewed the extraordinarily good Beasts of No Nation in my Homeless Reviews thread. It's the second first novel I read for this month's TIOLI challenge.

Short version: Please, Adichie readers, please seek this book out!

Jan 13, 2010, 2:12pm Top

Added my TIOLI tag : > I'll try the work page thingy later today.

Jan 13, 2010, 2:50pm Top

I've got another suggestion...

I'm doubling up on mine - instead of one book with a color in the title, I'm doing 2. Should that get me extra points?

Jan 13, 2010, 3:11pm Top

That's a good point, Cheli. Or if we do two different challenges, does that earn points?

I'm hoping to read a novel soon about life at the Air Force Academy, The Last Blue Mile by Kim Ponders.

Jan 13, 2010, 6:50pm Top

If we choose a book with the word "Point" in it, do we get extra points? :P

Jan 13, 2010, 7:44pm Top

Not sure who is supposed to add to the point totals so I did not do so.

Anyone may update the point value at any time. However, I'll keep doing it from time to time so you needn't worry if you don't do it.

Jan 13, 2010, 7:50pm Top

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I'm doubling up on mine - instead of one book with a color in the title, I'm doing 2. Should that get me extra points?

No. Here's why. I've decided against adding points for people who read more than one book unless it's a book that someone else is reading. The reason behind my logic is that this is not so much about volume as it is about connection.

What you could do is convince someone else to read the two books you're reading. Hopefully they're good enough books to make a decent recommendation for others to read. Feel free to use this thread to plug your book(s) (as Richard has already done)!


Jan 13, 2010, 7:51pm Top

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If we choose a book with the word "Point" in it, do we get extra points?


Um.... why?!

Jan 13, 2010, 7:54pm Top

I just started reading Vernon God Little which I saw that calm is also reading. It's hilarious. I hope no one thought I was too crazy for laughing out loud on the Metro train today.


Jan 13, 2010, 8:02pm Top

I've heard good and bad about Vernon God Little but I thank I'm going to put it back on the wishlist.

Jan 13, 2010, 8:06pm Top

It's not easy reading because it's tough-talking Texas teen angst speak! I think it's funny, although I can see how some people would really hate it. Perhaps read an excerpt before you get it?

Jan 13, 2010, 8:09pm Top

Chèli!!!!!!! No jumping ahead to February!!!!!!!

That month will have it's own page. Save your ideas until then (although I did copy your listing before I deleted it from January's page). I'll re-enter it on February's challenge when that page goes up.

Jan 13, 2010, 8:59pm Top

I finished another TIOLI book.
The Solace of Leaving Early by Haven Kimmel.
I had followed a link to DonnaReads review, that plus the review by karieh from August that convinced me to give it a try. I almost quit, but I reread their reviews and stuck with it. I am so glad I did!
My review is here.

Jan 13, 2010, 9:41pm Top

I like this idea! I'm in!

Jan 13, 2010, 9:48pm Top

I like your idea of focusing on connections for points.

Jan 13, 2010, 10:14pm Top

>260 lauranav: Laura, I found your review very helpful in deciding not to put this book on my wishlist. It sounds very well-executed, but not at all something I want to spend time reading. Thanks! And a thumbs-up from me!

Jan 14, 2010, 12:04am Top

>256 SqueakyChu: & 257 Oh Madeline, I can imagine you can't help snorting out loud at that poor Vernon G. Little on the Metro! What a mess, isn't he? Hilarious. But agree with your note to carmenere: maybe hum a few bars before investing in that book... it's nuts.

Jan 14, 2010, 8:24am Top

>263 richardderus: Richard, thanks for the thumbs up. I don't want to discourage everyone from the book, but it helps to know what you'd be getting in to.

Jan 14, 2010, 3:36pm Top

How do you put in a link to your review when you finish reading the book?

Jan 14, 2010, 3:44pm Top

>265 lauranav: You're quite welcome, you earned that thumbs-up.

>266 cameling: Caro, what is the question? How to make a hyperlink? TadAD did a whole thread on that in this forum, and I can send you instructions, too. Is there something I'm not understanding in your question?

Jan 14, 2010, 3:47pm Top

aha .... that's right ... I should have thought to first check on Tad's magic Basic HTML thread for assistance. Got it! Thanks for reminding me, rdearest ... i won't listen to another mean thing about you for today. ;-)

Jan 14, 2010, 4:34pm Top

Coming in late but intrigued by the challenge -- or really just looking for an excuse to read Frost at Christmas. I think the author only wrote radio plays before this, so it should count as a first novel. Btw, German has a separate word for someone's first work -- it's Erstling (erst = first --I'm sure you were all dying to learn that). Now off to see if I manage the wiki...

Jan 14, 2010, 7:52pm Top

Hi, littlegreycloud,

Welcome! If you go to the wiki and look for your book, I just moved it into alphabetical order. It's not gone. :)

I know some German and am happy to learn a new German word.. so...Danke!

It seems you did fine on the wiki. I'm so glad that people are trying it out. As an FYI, each person on LibraryThing has his own wiki page to use as he likes. Want more information about it? Look here. To get to your own wiki page (you can practice there) click on where it says "Your Wiki Page" on the green column to the left on the previous link I just gave you. Have fun!

Jan 15, 2010, 9:34am Top

Finished my debut TIOLI - Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-time and added TIOLI to the tag. It already has over 500 reviews, so I didn't do a formal review. It was an interesting read, and I'm glad I read it, but somewhat disappointing based on how much attention this book has received. 3.5 stars from me.

Can't wait to see what you come up with for February.

Jan 15, 2010, 9:37am Top

Hehe! :)

Jan 15, 2010, 9:45am Top

Patrick, I actually enjoyed reading The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time. It's a simple, quick read so I can understand your reaction to it, though. I'm thinking, that if anyone else chooses to read this debut novel, it's one that will be movable to February's challenge (not yet telling you what it is, of course...).

Let's Talk:
For those of you who have finished your debut novel, is the book you read one that will inspire you to look for more books by the same author? Why or why not?

Edited: Jan 15, 2010, 9:49am Top

Well, my first debut novel, Storm Front by Jim Butcher was a known quantity - I own everything by Jim except the SpiderMan novel. I will definitely buy everything he writes.

My second debut novel, The Magicians and Mrs. Quent by Galen Beckett was quite good, and I am looking forward to more. The pace was a little uneven, it was a trifle formulaic even where breaking with the formulas, and it didn't quite live up to its blurbs (I'm not sure the question of what if women were sequestered and sheltered for a reason was truly answered), but I still enjoyed it very much, and am looking forward to tne next one.

Jan 15, 2010, 9:51am Top

I've read two debut novels for the challenge: Elisha's Bones and Soulless.

Elisha's Bones was sort of meh, so I won't be looking for anything else by that author.

I'll definitely be reading more by the author of Soulless, though. Luckily she has two more books coming out later this year! I thought the premise was just so unique: vampires and werewolves in a 19th-century London steampunk setting, with humour rather than horror. I would read similar books by other authors if I could find any.

Edited: Jan 15, 2010, 10:02am Top

What is steampunk?

Jan 15, 2010, 10:27am Top

I've read two
The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time by Mark Haddon - I found the book very interesting but I probably will not actively search out more books by this author. The concept was interesting, but the style of writing was specific to that book.

I also read The Solace of Leaving Early by Haven Kimmel
I really enjoyed the book as a whole, but really struggled with some of the details included and internal thought processes that didn't grab me. I'm might look at another Haven Kimmel book, but I won't rush out to get another one.

Jan 15, 2010, 11:08am Top

>276 SqueakyChu: In this case, it's basically historical science fiction: steam technology in a 19th-century setting. I'm not sure what the official definition is, but here's what wikipedia says:

The term denotes works set in an era or world where steam power is still widely used—usually the 19th century, and often Victorian era England—but with prominent elements of either science fiction or fantasy, such as fictional technological inventions like those found in the works of H. G. Wells and Jules Verne, or real technological developments like the computer occurring at an earlier date. Other examples of steampunk contain alternate history-style presentations of "the path not taken" of such technology as dirigibles, analog computers, or digital mechanical computers (such as Charles Babbage's Analytical engine); these frequently are presented in an idealized light, or with a presumption of functionality.

>274 BethyB: I'm glad to hear that you enjoyed The Magicians and Mrs. Quent despite its flaws. I'm really intrigued by the premise, but I've so far avoided reading it because of the disappointing reviews. Maybe I'll give it a try after all.

Jan 15, 2010, 11:32am Top

I read two debut novels. The first was Still Life by Louise Penny, the first in her Three Pines mystery which I really enjoyed. I will definitely continue reading the series which I understand from other LT'ers just continues to get better and better.

The other debut novel was Purple Hibiscus by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie. I chose this book because last summer I read and enjoyed her novel Half a Yellow Sun which took place during Nigeria's civil war in the 60's. Purple Hibiscus, a coming of age story, was an entirely different novel, taking place in the present, but still centered around the corrupt Nigerian government as well as women's issues and abuse; a thoroughly enjoyable read also.

Jan 15, 2010, 11:47am Top

I've also read two books for this challenge. The first, The Solace of Leaving Early was right up my reading alley. Gloomy, unlikable characters (until you get to know them), deep thoughts about philosophy and theology. Not everyone's cuppa, but I tend to navigate toward dark, cerebral novels. I'll definitely be reading more by Kimmel.

The second one I read, A Study in Scarlet by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle was inspired by the Sherlock Holmes movie and was pure fun. I bought a S.H. anthology and will be dipping into his adventures from time to time to give me a break from the heavier books I read.

Edited: Jan 15, 2010, 1:15pm Top

I've just posted my review of the first Inspector Gamache mystery, Still Life, in my "Homeless Reviews" thread in Club Read 2010 ... post #5.

No short version, go read the review then the book.

Another first book I read was Beasts of No Nation, which is wonderful and amazing and so far the author's only novel. If anyone knows Uzodinma Iweala, go chain him to a desk and make him write more!!

Time Travelers Are Schizophrenic is the third of the first books I've read...quite a good first effort at science-fictional romantic space opera. As the author lives only a few miles from me, I state cateorically that his next book is on my "must-have" list! *fearful glance over shoulder*

edited/touchstone for "Still Life" STILL WRONG!!

Jan 15, 2010, 1:42pm Top

"science-fictional space opera"

Now there's a genre!

Jan 15, 2010, 2:01pm Top

I finished Scaramouche by Rafael Sabatini.
Some interesting insight into the French Revolution. Very good character study of the young cynical lawyer who changes his position a number of times and ends up a bit more of an idealist by the end.
There is, of course, a beautiful girl or two, and an evil Marquis, and some good sword-fighting.

If you liked The Scarlet Pimpernel this is just as good.

Jan 15, 2010, 3:45pm Top

I am enjoying this challenge - I've read 2 books I didn't already have on my list, and 2 that I did have on my TBR for 2010 list and had fun seeing what everyone else is reading. It's been fun to watch it evolve this month.

AND - I have finally played around with my wiki page thanks to this introduction to the whole concept.

I'm looking forward to learning what the February challenge is.

Jan 15, 2010, 3:57pm Top

Wow, Laura! That's quite an agenda.

Glad I got you started on your wikipage. You can make more pages that connect with each other (in case you don't know). Hope your excellent use of the wiki spurs others on to trying their own wiki pages.

February's challenge is still a secret... :)

Jan 15, 2010, 3:59pm Top

Since I have not even finished January's challenge yet, I think I am just as glad.

I am staying away from the Wiki stuff though. I am afraid I would totally confuse myself or LibraryThing would explode or something if I knew something technological.

Edited: Jan 15, 2010, 6:29pm Top

I seriously doubt that Tim would allow us to do something that would cause LT to explode. :)

What I see as the fun of LibraryThing is the many facets it has. There's so much to learn and so much to do here. Perhaps I'll incorporate some of LT's great features into future TIOLI challenges. I've got all sorts of great ideas.

By the way, is anyone here going to participate in the LT 24-Hour ReadaThon next weekend? (link moved to post #291)

*revokes previous offer of more points (too confusing), but it still might be fun to participate*

Edited: Jan 15, 2010, 4:11pm Top

I did not know we were having one. I will have to check into it - although I am going to be out of town on Sunday.

Hmm - I clicked on the link and it took me to a completely blank page?

Jan 15, 2010, 5:40pm Top

Same here, Stasia. Just a blank page.

Jan 15, 2010, 5:47pm Top

Well, at least I know it is not just me!

Jan 15, 2010, 6:21pm Top


Try this
... and this.

Jan 15, 2010, 6:23pm Top

Sonya will probably blog the Readathon after the LT Meet-Up in Boston is over. That takes precedence right now. Anyone here going to that?! Sounds like fun, but it's too far away. :(

Jan 15, 2010, 6:25pm Top

Unfortunately, I do not think I will be able to do the Readathon because we are leaving to visit my mother early (well, early to me) Sunday morning, so my normal late night reading is going to have to be curtailed.

As far as the Boston Meet-Up goes, I am nowhere in that neighborhood :)

Edited: Jan 15, 2010, 7:32pm Top

I have read three debut novels (one planned for this challenge, and two sort of by accident) but I wouldn't seek out any of those authors' works again.

They were: In The Bleak Midwinter by Julia Spencer-Fleming, perfectly enjoyable mystery, but not good enough for me to add her other books to the wishlist

Astrid and Veronika by Linda Olsson, almost a very good book but spoilt by over-egging (or as we say in Chinese, painting the legs on the snake)

Cold Earth by Sarah Moss, a GREAT idea ruined by a very irritating narrator

Hey, now, that's interesting. Two of the books were nearly very good. Maybe that goes back to Richard's point about how all first novels are flawed? I still don't think I'll read Sarah Moss again because her narrator was smug as well as irritating and so I don't think that is likely to change. But I might keep an eye on what Linda Olsson comes up with in the future.

Jan 15, 2010, 11:07pm Top

My next-to-last debut novel, Time Travelers Are Schizophrenic, is reviewed in my 75-Books challenge thread...#29.

Plenty, plenty flawed, but fun to read nonetheless.

Jan 15, 2010, 11:25pm Top

There's an LT meet up in Boston? huh? what? where? when? Work is killing my reading time! I'm soooo behind ... in what I had planned to read, not behind in work.

Edited: Jan 15, 2010, 11:33pm Top

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Richard, that's a riot how you found your last book (only I guess it wasn't too much fun for you, pain and all). Should I make a future TIOLI challenge "A Book That Throws Itself at You"? :)

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Yeah, Caroline. There's a meet-up Saturday night in Boston. It's only some 400 miles too far away for me to attend. :(

Jan 15, 2010, 11:39pm Top

Oh hey, that would be so much fun ... but drat it all .. we're having friends over to watch the football games tomorrow! *air turning blue around cameling from the vicious curses hurled*

Jan 15, 2010, 11:45pm Top


Jan 15, 2010, 11:56pm Top

I'm really disappointed about the meet-up timing too... I'm not going to be back in the US until the following day!

Jan 16, 2010, 12:35am Top

This thread continues here.

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Jun 25, 2011, 10:26pm Top

Keep this thread current.

Jun 23, 2012, 10:24pm Top

ps - In the list of monthly threads, the link goes to March, not the current month. Is it something you can fix, or is that because they are continuation threads rather than individual threads?

Jun 23, 2012, 10:34pm Top

Fixed. Thx!

Jun 23, 2012, 10:37pm Top

No problem.

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Madeline, is there a link to this page in post one of each month's TIOLI challenge? It would be helpful, for me anyway.

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Yes. The link is at the top of the page. It's where it says "this thread" in the first line of each Page 1.

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