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1amandameale
Mar 5, 2007, 7:02am Top

THis author was recommended to me by dylanwolf. I do have one of her novels on my "must buy" list. What do others think of her? Which of her novels do you like best?

2bleuroses
Mar 5, 2007, 10:12am Top

A fellow bookstore employee/friend gave me The Bloody Chamber. She said she was envious of my first reading of it. That she always wanted to be able to read it for the first time, all the time.

This was about 13 years ago. The book stayed with me because of her comment and I recall feeling dazzled. Honestly though, I'd have to look at it again to be able to talk about it!

3avaland
Mar 7, 2007, 8:52am Top

Well, I've started to read some of Carter's short fiction, but I don't have a lot to say about them yet...

4Jargoneer
Mar 7, 2007, 10:27am Top

As a result of discussing Carter in the Readercon thread, I thought I would go back and re-read Nights at the Circus. Either that or Wise Children are good choices to begin with, both showcase an excellent writer at her peak.

One critic pointed out that most of Carter's novels can be paired together - The Magic Toyshop & Heroes & Villains; The Infernal Desire Machines of Dr Hoffman & The Passion of the New Eve; Nights at the Cirus & Wise Children - that themetically each book in the pair enhances the other.

5aluvalibri
Mar 9, 2007, 8:26pm Top

Although I have many of her books, I still have to read almost all of them. However, I can say that The bloody chamber is a 'magic' book, and not only because it is a retelling of fairy tales (plus a few she wrote), but above all for the beauty and fluminosity (I did not invent the word, I just borrowed it from Burgess' A dead Man in Deptford) of the language.
I am also very intrigued by her great sense of humour.

6Doulton
Mar 9, 2007, 11:01pm Top

It has been quite a while since I have tried to read Angela Carter. Isn't there a lot of "magic realism" in her works?

7mrscastavet
Mar 10, 2007, 7:32pm Top

I recently read the bloody chamber and really really enjoyed it - wickedly re-written fairy tales for adults with a perversion for the macabre and gothic. I haven't read any of her other books so can't comment, but for me, it really worked as a series of short stories. Succinct and sweet and with sharp, often bloody endings like all good fairy tales.

Saying all of that what I find most interesting are the stories obliquely feminist view points - it's documented in critique of her writing, but supposedly something she denies?

8avaland
Mar 16, 2007, 10:43am Top

I'm in the middle of The Bloody Chamber now, what wonderful prose!

9aluvalibri
Mar 16, 2007, 12:20pm Top

Yeah, isn't it a fantastic book?

10bleuroses
Mar 17, 2007, 5:49pm Top

I've been going through my old bookmarks and came upon this site...
http://www.endicott-studio.com/gal/galWives/wivestales.html

From Endicott Studos, the article is titled "Old Wives Tales:
an exhibition of women's fairy tale art
old and new" and opens with a quote from Angela Carter.

I'm just beginning to read it through, but it seems so appropriate for this thread!

11avaland
Mar 18, 2007, 12:20pm Top

That's interesting, I just read a similar piece in the Guardian by A.S.Byatt. Not a current piece, but someone that intrigued me from their list of pieces on fiction.

I've read further into Carter's short fiction and her various Beauty & the Beast retellings are fascinating. I love the prose she uses for these, the sometime anacronisms, the suspense and eroticism... Even the The Bloody Chamber which brings to mind my favorite Grimm's tale, Bluebeard, is also a take on beauty and the beast. These are also fairly sensual with vivid textures and smells...

12dylanwolf
Mar 20, 2007, 6:21pm Top

I love Angela Carter's extended novels Wise Children and Nights At the Circus more than the shorter works which I tend to dip into every now and then. What a tragedy that she died an early death in 1992 at the age of 52 from cancer.

13amandameale
Mar 22, 2007, 8:05am Top

dylanwolf: do you specialise in the deaths of writers? I remember you wrote elsewhere that RLS died after making a vinaigrette. Perhaps you should start a new thread on the sybject?

14Jargoneer
Mar 22, 2007, 9:29am Top

I would like to point out to any out to any confused readers, RLS died of a brain hemorrhage, and not because of his vinaigrette, which although generally judged as disappointing, was not found to be lethal.

15dylanwolf
Mar 22, 2007, 2:37pm Top

Superb, jargoneer!!

16avaland
Mar 23, 2007, 7:32pm Top

Yes, Bravo!

With regards to Carter, one does have to contemplate the "what if?" if just for a moment. According to a 2006 article in The Independent, she is currently the most studied British author...

17amandameale
Mar 24, 2007, 2:06am Top

dylanwolf: do you specialise in misinforming us of author's deaths? What exactly are you up to?

18amandameale
Mar 25, 2007, 8:14am Top

Today I bought my first Angela Carter book, Wise Children. Will let you know how it goes.

19dylanwolf
Edited: Mar 25, 2007, 11:08am Top

Good luck with Wise Children, Amanda. I'm lining up The Magic Toyshop as my next read. Its one Angela Carter I haven't read and I don't want to miss out on the fun.

Re-authorial mortality did you know that the 27th of March is the first anniversary of the death of Stanislaw Lem, author of Solaris, His Master's Voice and many other excellent sci-fi novels, in Cracow?

Lem had strong opinions about sci-fi and considered most British and American work to be "spoiled, spineless, frivolous and intellectually void" (although he didn't always sugar-coat his criticisms). For Lem alien worlds were always entirely and extraordinarily alien and often beyond human comprehension.

He was born in Lvov and remained there during the war, working for the Polish resistance. His 70-odd books have been translated into 35 languages and sold at least 27 million copies.

20avaland
Apr 21, 2007, 10:15pm Top

Until I inadvertently left my book in Maine this afternoon, I was reading Nights at the Circus. What an incredible book! First there is the voice of the main character, the prose, o the prose! the story is riveting, and we the reader are left in the same position as the reporter. Does this famous aerielist really have wings? Not to mention the various feminist readings of and delicious ironies in the story....

Imagine if she had lived to write more, imagine!

21avaland
Apr 21, 2007, 10:56pm Top

While reading Nights, I became curious as to when it was published in relation to when Handmaid's Tale was published. As a matter of note, Nights at the Circus was published in 1984; Margaret Atwood's Handmaid's Tale was first published in 1985.

It struck me that the novel is about a woman who has wings and the ability, albeit somewhat limited, to fly (or perhaps it is all an illusion...I have not finished the book and I wouldn't include a spoiler anyway). Somehow, in considering this; Handmaids came to mind. I will have to mull more on this. My brain works in odd ways sometimes...

22amandameale
May 9, 2007, 9:07am Top

Finished Wise Children last week - it certainly was a worthy read. Clever and funny.

23avaland
May 22, 2007, 4:43pm Top

I am fascinated with this woman's writing. She is able to wield what could arguably be called purple prose with great skill; it's really remarkable. Her use of language, her literary voice, is energizing and sometimes just makes me involuntarily smile.

24avaland
Feb 11, 2008, 11:30am Top

Always lovely to see a nice article on Ms. Carter:

http://www.latimes.com/features/books/la-bkw-rayner3feb03,1,6488273.story

25aluvalibri
Feb 11, 2008, 12:03pm Top

Thanks, avaland, great article!!

26Jargoneer
Feb 11, 2008, 12:35pm Top

Interesting, but not necessarily true - Nights at the Circus was very well-reviewed when first issued, and sold well. It was a surprise when it was not included on the shortlist - and it can't be because the panel was anti-feminist: three women were on the shortlist, and Anita Brookner won. (That was also a surprise - Empire of the Sun was the favourite). It was only in the 1970s that her work had difficulty getting an audience: which may partly be problems with the novels - even now, The Passion of the New Eve and The Infernal Desire Machines of Dr Hoffman divide opinion.

27yareader2
Feb 11, 2008, 9:57pm Top

That was a great article, mess 24. thanks

28agmlll
Sep 26, 2009, 4:00pm Top

Has anyone read Shadow Dance? I saw it at the bookstore and it looked interesting.

29agmlll
Feb 21, 2010, 8:47am Top

I read Shadow Dance and I'm still not sure what I think. It did make me want to read more of Angela Carter's books.

30agmlll
Edited: Jul 31, 2010, 5:37am Top

Recently read Love. It's a very good book about a love triangle teetering on the edge of madness.

31avaland
Sep 8, 2010, 9:12pm Top

It's been a while since I read it, but I thought Love was wonderfully Gothic and a bit of a homage to Poe.

32agmlll
Jan 6, 2011, 8:58am Top

Finished Several Perceptions which I enjoyed.

Interesting article about Angela Carter here:

http://www.themodernword.com/scriptorium/carter.html

1991 interview here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/writers/12245.shtml

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