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The Chapel of the Abyss

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Mar 24, 2010, 11:03pm Top

Looks like Odilon Redon. The snake Lady? Nice. Redon is an old favorite. I think Art Institute Chicago has a few.
How about artists and titles, if you have them?

Mar 25, 2010, 12:06am Top

Good idea for a thread.

Edited: Mar 25, 2010, 9:51am Top

It is in fact Redon - "The Green Death". Do you have his To Myself: Notes on Life, Art and Artists? I keep meaning to read it.

Mar 25, 2010, 10:26am Top

"Snake Lady" immediately reminds me of John Colliers' "Lilith" though: http://kaganof.com/kagablog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/lilith.jpg

Mar 25, 2010, 1:43pm Top

"To Myself" looks interesting. I have Odilon Redon: Prince of Dreams, a good survey.

Edited: Mar 25, 2010, 2:32pm Top

John Collier is an interesting writer, beyond his sardonic ghost stories. I enjoyed his nice, strange and entertaining His Monkey Wife. I had to hunt for my used copy; now it seems it's in print in several editions.

Mar 25, 2010, 2:47pm Top

Interesting - I was talking about the British painter John Collier (http://www.artcyclopedia.com/artists/collier_john.html) though.

Edited: Mar 25, 2010, 6:46pm Top

So it's obvious then I disregarded the link and just gave in to my impulses? Thank you (More interesting - they seem to have occurred at the same time and on the same island, these John Colliers). (post-link visit: I like Collier's snake lady better than His Monkey Wife).

Mar 26, 2010, 7:54am Top

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Mar 26, 2010, 10:25am Top

An obvious choice but John Henry Fuseli's The Nightmare

Edited: Mar 26, 2010, 6:52pm Top

Although I wasn't too impressed on the whole with Dijkstra's Idols of Perversity, it did--just as I had hoped--lead me to a number of painters dealing with decadent themes whom I'd previously overlooked.

My review is here: http://www.librarything.com/review/46226291

Mar 28, 2010, 11:06am Top

What's the body in the snow?

Mar 28, 2010, 2:28pm Top

Robert Walser, I think.

Apr 22, 2010, 8:45am Top

Did you have to sell the farm to get Uel Key?

Re: John Collier; I've been watching "Alfred Hitchcock Presents". Seems like 1/2 the stories are JC.

Edited: Apr 22, 2010, 10:20am Top

I don't own a copy, and at the price being asked, I never will (I employed a professional speech writer to sell my better half on why I should spend $150 on A House of Pomegranates). I used to love "Alfred Hitchcock Presents" (and Outer Limits, etc.. Didn't Collier make the hadj to Hollywood, like Waugh, etc.?

May 12, 2010, 3:28pm Top

OK, I give up. Doesn't show up on LT search. Author of "The Cold Stone Heart"? Great title.

Edited: May 12, 2010, 4:58pm Top

It is one of the tales told in Wilhelm Hauff's The Inn in the Spessart. A standard fairy tale involving wisdom and the lack of it and, more importantly, encounters with the elemental wee-men of the forest.

May 12, 2010, 5:52pm Top

For those of a humorous bent, check out this "Uncyclopedia" article:


Edited: Jun 3, 2010, 10:28am Top

Great pic today, BW. Who is it by? ETA - never mind, when I blow it up I can see the signature.

Edited: Jun 3, 2010, 12:16pm Top

It reminds me of one of the snappy songs of my youth: "That's when I reach for my revolver" (Mission of Burma).

Aug 8, 2010, 12:06pm Top

Looks like an early version of Satan Sowing Tares by Rops. An old fav. The final version has a lot more detail
and color.

Aug 8, 2010, 1:59pm Top

That's it. I like the bleakness. Many of Rops's colorful canvases seem like naughty cartoons.

Aug 8, 2010, 2:13pm Top

Nothing wrong with naughty cartoons! Some of my favorite art is....
It looks like a print. Maybe a litho or etching?

Aug 9, 2010, 9:16pm Top

Mine too!

Sep 23, 2010, 1:10am Top

Looks like James Ensor, but I don't think so.

Sep 23, 2010, 10:45pm Top

When you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares back ... and has really bad hair.


Sep 24, 2010, 1:36pm Top

It is Julio Ruelas' "The Hangman".

Apr 27, 2011, 3:41pm Top

How come I haven't heard of Leonor Fini before?
Art history fails me again.
Thanks, Ben. She's amazing.
Leonor Fini - Le Bout du monde (1948)

Jul 22, 2011, 8:28pm Top

Another strange, interesting Mossa.

Jul 29, 2011, 10:08am Top

Theda Bara:


Not what one would expect from "a nice Jewish girl from Ohio."

Apr 2, 2012, 4:07pm Top

How about some Takato Yamamoto, and Vania Zouravliov? http://www.google.ca/search?q=Vania%20Zouravliov&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-...

Apr 3, 2012, 8:27am Top

VF, Je vous remercie pour cette opportunite kleptique.

Apr 6, 2012, 8:45pm Top

Hadrian the VII would definitely have an issue with this:


Happy Easter from the gilt theocrats of the Holy See of the Eastern Orthodox Church

Apr 8, 2012, 5:12pm Top

The late not-at-all-lamented Thomas "Mephistopheles" Kinkade and his ever-present pestilential galleries of blurry cottages and Heavy Christian Overtones:


The Abyss stares back and it's rather banal and common.

Apr 9, 2012, 3:38pm Top

Everytime I looked at one of his paintings the first thing I thought of was that those cute little buildings were all built on a flood plain and would most certainly be wiped out with the next big storm.

Apr 9, 2012, 8:07pm Top

An explanation for his prolific hackery is that he used to be a matte artist in Hollywood. I'd rather hang a Chapman Brothers picture in my living room, next to the Felicien Rops and Alfred Kubin

Apr 17, 2012, 2:17pm Top

Hah, seeing the Jahnn cover just now gave me a turn--I opened a box containing the book not five minutes ago! Not the same edition, though. Would've been too much.

Apr 17, 2012, 4:01pm Top

Hermes passed by ;)

Apr 30, 2012, 8:23pm Top

Original litho crayon drawing from a few years ago.


Apr 30, 2012, 9:56pm Top

Oh Christ - watermarked! Can't steal it now! Good stuf!

Apr 30, 2012, 10:02pm Top

Got to watch out for art thieves, amigo!

Edited: May 7, 2012, 9:19pm Top

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May 2, 2012, 8:57pm Top

Very nice. If I could have one wish granted that wish would be to be able to draw.

May 2, 2012, 9:11pm Top

Gracias, amigos.
I've drawn all my life, mostly figure drawing.
The human figure is the ultimate challenge and subject,
especially the female of the species, extremely difficult to draw well.

Edited: May 27, 2012, 4:15am Top

> 28 (tros):

Sorry for being so late to respond, but - the one Leonor Fini form my modest collection

"Le train blanc" (lithograph) http://www.librarything.com/pic/3320539

May 16, 2012, 4:36pm Top

I Dream of Eastern Shame Girl.

May 23, 2012, 11:48am Top

The current pic will get me in trouble at work.

May 23, 2012, 1:33pm Top

Me too. Put Redon's Smiling Spider back

May 23, 2012, 1:39pm Top

Private web use in the boss's time - shame on you ;-)

May 23, 2012, 1:44pm Top

Beset and besieged! I feel like Willard. Damned protestants. (I was at home, on lunch :)

May 23, 2012, 2:36pm Top

Howdy Doody?

I vote for Mahlon Blaine.

May 23, 2012, 7:48pm Top

I'm thinking of having the profile picture of VolupteFunebre as my wallpaper, speaking of trouble at work!

May 24, 2012, 7:47am Top

Copy cat.

May 24, 2012, 1:47pm Top

She's quite the looker, that one.

May 24, 2012, 9:22pm Top

From the looks of it, she's turned into a mannequin. I prefer monocles to mannequins, but that's just me. ;)

Jun 4, 2012, 11:02am Top

God damn that Belgian book looks expensive. But now that I know of it how can I resist?

Jun 4, 2012, 12:54pm Top

I held off for awhile - but the contents are quite good and nowhere else anthologized, to my knowledge.

Jun 13, 2012, 4:41pm Top

Nice! Are there any stories in The Magician's Garden and Other Stories not in Opium?

Jun 13, 2012, 5:07pm Top

No - same book, but a hard cover edition. There is a film based on the stories in this book by the way, Opium: Diary of a Madwoman - by János Szász. My copy came today.

Edited: Jun 19, 2012, 7:05pm Top

The latest has me itching for a set of colored markers and a black light. In a good way.

Jun 20, 2012, 3:02pm Top

What is the unexpected love lesson about? Is it collectible?

Edited: Jun 20, 2012, 3:58pm Top

Collectively collectable? I'm not certain. I don't think it's a very common book these days. It's a brief and commonplace tale of a career of sexual sport from the from the 1700s. It certainly sits (or squats) well in the lazy reads section (growing as fast a canker) of my library. There are several of Nerciat's amusingly smutty novels available in in English (I posted the French version in a .pdf this morning in another thread in this group). You might also consider the Memoirs of Cardinal Dubois (translated by Dowson and published by Leonard Smithers). From what I gather the man was a study in compulsive, soul-withering, dissipation. He was also a statesman, so the book has some value beyond its tawdry catalogs of debaucheries - which is why I purchased it, of course.

Edited: Jun 20, 2012, 4:07pm Top

I can post a list of these 18th century libertine novels, if anyone is interested. I'm not certain if I have them all conveniently tagged, so it might take some time. I am thinking particularly of a series published in London by Chapman & Hall in the 20s... I know I have a title or so from that series. Also, before I forget - Felicien Rops provided a few curious illustrations for editions of Nerciat published in the late 19th century.

Jul 8, 2012, 10:32pm Top

Mmm, I was going to get that vampire Chessex. How was it? Based on true events in some Swiss village?

Jul 8, 2012, 11:00pm Top

A "hot" mermaid by Waterhouse.


Jul 9, 2012, 10:52am Top

66: Yes - very good, quick read. Grotesque events, based on real events, according to the blurb on the back of the book. Like Muschg (and Faulkner and Cormac McCarthy), a sketch of a mean and isolated and irrational world where monsters are cultivated as well as (in)bred. There is the usual xenophobia and ingrained superstition, but the focus is on a morbid or even macabre sexuality exuding from and lingering over the place, like a poisonous atmosphere: rampant rapes, incest, necrophilia.

I had never heard of Chessex until I read your post in The Hellfire Club. Thank you!

Jul 9, 2012, 11:04am Top

You're welcome; always delighted to bring rapes, incest and necrophilia into one's life--and let's face it, you've returned the favour many times.

Jul 9, 2012, 12:36pm Top

Well, I have been around the block a few times, re the above - but, to quote Mick Somethingorother once again, Chessex made it feel like the very first time (Didn't Zola write a novel in which a character, strolling along the boulevards of Paris, passes the time by trying to discern at which establishment random passersby took their daily meals, based on traces of various forms of poisoning etched in their features? I think I suffer from a sort of aural poisoning. Those hated FM anthems of my youth are the only ones I can't forget. I should play them backwards some time....).

Jul 17, 2012, 11:32pm Top



Decadence lives on in Fifties Horror kitsch.

Oct 14, 2012, 6:26pm Top

Came across a handful of amazing images of Weimar-era decadence by Marta Astfalck-Vietz online - anyone know more about her?

Oct 15, 2012, 2:14am Top

She has a Wikipedia page (in German): http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marta_Astfalck-Vietz. Not very informative though.

Oct 15, 2012, 9:10pm Top

What's in those American Aphrodite journals?

Oct 15, 2012, 10:52pm Top

Some mild smut and some interesting things: http://www.philsp.com/homeville/fmi/t140.htm#BOT

Oct 16, 2012, 10:20am Top

In the link that I pasted, you will find stories and poems by Leopold von Sacher-Masoch, Josephin Peladan, Petrus Borel, George Sylvester Viereck, H. A. Manhood, Aleister Crowley, Edgar Saltus, etc., and the artwork of Rops and Blaine and others.

Oct 16, 2012, 12:52pm Top

The Josephin Peladan one looks very tempting as precious little by him is translated.

Oct 16, 2012, 1:14pm Top

Scattered throughout the volumes are many of Sacher-Masoch's short stories as well. Those also are hard to come by. I'm 2 volumes shy of a full run... in so many ways.

Oct 26, 2012, 5:04pm Top

Oct 26, 2012, 7:34pm Top

75. Wow. Thanks. What a treasure trove. I know what I'll be doing this weekend. I think I'll start with the Peladan. I've wanted to read something by him for ages.

Edited: Jan 18, 2013, 6:19pm Top

Nice find on the Borel! I guess it's not coming out on Black Coat Press after all. I like how the title on the cover is misspelled lol.

Jan 18, 2013, 7:23pm Top

Damn cheesy cover as well - more so even than the Black Coat Press titles. An atrocity. Of sorts.

Edited: Apr 19, 2013, 10:58am Top

Hello everyone.
On the subject of Pics from the Abyss, here's a few links to working artists who plough the Abyssmal furrow:
http://xeeming.deviantart.com/gallery/ - his pencil work especially.
http://offermoord.deviantart.com/gallery/ - has moments of Ropsness, for instance "Nuns of Loudun".
http://livingrope.deviantart.com/gallery/ - check out his "Mother", as it were.
http://michaelbrack.deviantart.com/gallery/ - B&W or colour, his pictures are always perfectly balanced.
http://amartinsdebarros.deviantart.com/gallery/ - especially his peoplefaces - you'll know what I mean when you see them.

May 7, 2013, 11:27pm Top

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May 10, 2013, 6:30pm Top

85: But I can't find this Grove version on ye olde Interwebs. Here's Kirby's take on a Catholic triptych:


Jun 7, 2013, 6:56pm Top

Jun 26, 2013, 3:54pm Top

The guy has a great set of wings.

Jun 26, 2013, 9:07pm Top

And nice pair of melons.

Jun 26, 2013, 9:36pm Top

AW, you....

Edited: Jun 26, 2013, 10:42pm Top

Uh, oh... Just pointing out the obvious, something I'm very good at.

Aug 10, 2013, 9:34am Top

Cesare Borgia from the show of the same name:


"He can polish my mitre any time."

Aug 22, 2013, 4:33pm Top

Sep 7, 2013, 3:05pm Top

Pierre Amédée Marcel Beronneau, 'Femme au Serpent', c. 1906


Edited: Oct 27, 2013, 3:42pm Top

I visited the Musée d'Orsay last week. On the right side of the entrance there is a fabulous collection of Fin de siecle art, including the portrait of Proust by Blanche, the portrait of Robert de Montesquiou (Baron de Charlus in Proust's novels) by Boldini, lots of paintings by Toulose-Lautrec. They had on loan a painting by Gustave Moreau, La Débauche:

Oct 28, 2013, 7:44pm Top

Where would one put Michael Moorcock and his decadent amoral aristocrat warrior, Elric of Melnibone?


Edited: Feb 10, 2014, 10:28pm Top

Some hash party! Damn!

Hashish (The Hashish Smokers), by Previati Gaetano, 1887


May 13, 2014, 1:17pm Top

RIP HR Giger, the Swiss artist of decadently erotic biomechanical nightmares and dreamscapes:


A modern Des Esseintes shouldn't be without one of these:


Perfect for the on-the-go executive who occasionally rips out the beating hearts of orphans and scullery maids, bathing himself in the blood of innocents amidst the wail of haggard coyotes and ... well, I'm getting ahead of myself.

Luckily, his depraved vision lives on with artists like Kuksi:


Dec 6, 2014, 5:56pm Top

Dec 20, 2014, 5:19pm Top

Alméry Lobel-Riche - Les Diaboliques


Dec 20, 2014, 9:44pm Top

"Romance" by Nenslo:


(From the official site of the Church of the SubGenius)

Dec 30, 2014, 1:47pm Top

Jan 19, 2015, 5:43pm Top

Images of my new book, The NSFW Files: an appreciation of erotica in literature and comics:


Check out the limited edition hardcover:


It's like one of those beautifully produced smutty gems made in the Victorian era and until the 1920s, tiny print runs for "discerning customers" with deep pockets and jaded tastes:


Jan 25, 2015, 2:08pm Top


Apr 2, 2015, 2:20pm Top

When amateurs mistake cold steel for fashion accessories:

Nils Dardel (Swedish, 1888–1943), Dandy med svärd {Dandy with sword}.

Edited: Apr 3, 2015, 8:37am Top

113: Not to be confused with "Blue Steel," by Derek Zoolander:


Apr 11, 2015, 1:42pm Top

113. This image reminds me of the story "The Permanent Stiletto" by W.C. Morrow

Apr 11, 2015, 1:54pm Top

Edited: Apr 14, 2015, 9:28am Top

Received the book: it's nicely designed - dj art is by the author, as are several illustrations within. The appendix includes several stories by her husband. More after I've read it.

Sep 9, 2015, 11:09am Top

The Johann Strauss II Memorial:

Sep 9, 2015, 2:01pm Top

Maybe change your pic size. It's enormous. Beautiful, but enormous!

Sep 21, 2015, 11:50am Top

For those who enjoyed Voluptuous Panic, Mel Gordon has a new coming out in October, Horizontal Collaboration, about the erotic world of Paris between 1920 and 1946.

Feb 16, 2016, 10:02pm Top

Feb 18, 2016, 8:39pm Top

Salammbo by Almery Lobel-Riche


Apr 9, 2016, 8:08pm Top

Serafino Macchiati (Italian, 1861-1916), Paul Verlaine, Bibi la Purée et Stéphane Mallarmé au café Procope (1890)

Apr 10, 2016, 6:02pm Top

The interior of the Tom of Finland House in Echo Park, Los Angeles:


Apr 17, 2016, 5:59pm Top

Renzo Mongiardino, the Architect of Illusion, a story from the NY Times T Magazine:


He did set design for Franco Zeffirelli and Visconti. If The Chapel of the Abyss was going to have an interior decorator, I'd nominate Mongiardino.

Employing lush romanticism and arcane classical references pulled from a magic bag of artificial effects, he enabled a certain sector of the very rich to make their own mark on the 20th century.

May 16, 2016, 9:01am Top

Good lord. An early pioneer of the head shop school!

Aug 7, 2016, 5:26pm Top

Is it a self-portrait? I'm dire altogether at recognising faces but the hair makes me think that it might be Bernhardt herself.

Not a single image, but have recently again opened Beyond Time and Place: Nonrealist Art in the Nineteenth Century, which has something of the abyss about it & might well appeal. Going for a song on amazon--is often had for 1p on UK amazon in fact--and worth considering for the (mostly b&w) illustrations alone, though the text is very good. Not only does it thank god give little attention to the pre-Raphaelites but author includes lesser-known artists I knew of only because I had art history classes &, unexpectedly, works by Victor Hugo and by Strindberg.

Dec 14, 2016, 5:25pm Top

The incomparable Richard Sandler:


Street-photographer who captured the go-go spirit of NYC during the heyday of cocaine and Donald Trump actually having money.

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