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1timspalding
Edited: Jul 19, 2010, 2:34am Top

I've just pushed a new "more" tab (see here), which has expanded from one page to eight.

I look forward to hearing what I've missed, particularly on the "helpers" and "member projects" sections. The trick is to put things in proportion, and link elsewhere when possible. I'll blog and tweet about it tomorrow.

2justjim
Edited: Jul 19, 2010, 3:13am Top

"... but wait, there's more..." I can't wait to get my LT branded steak knives.

Off to look now.

3justjim
Jul 19, 2010, 3:13am Top

Seems fine. Nice and clean. Logically split into the various pages.

On the Widgets and extensions page the link for the mac screensaver recognised me but there is what I think may be supposed to be a similar link on the Import/export page, under Export from LibraryThing which is black, not blue and says "You are not signed in."

4EveleenM
Jul 19, 2010, 5:00am Top

I don't think the series you have as examples on http://www.librarything.com/more/helpers (the helpers page) are really the best examples.

http://www.librarything.com/series/Star+Wars is a mess in terms of numbering: there's a small block at the beginning with consistent numbering, then the main body in alphabetical order, with what appear to be ineffectual numbers scattered among them; also the series description is mostly complaining that LT can't cope with the numbering system selected. Not a shining example of an LT series!

http://www.librarything.com/series/Sather+Classical+Lectures has no series description, and has only 37 works though the numbers go to 66. It looks rather incomplete.

5justjim
Jul 19, 2010, 5:17am Top

That's a good point. May I suggest the Patrick O'Brian Aubrey/Maturin series? Nice consistent covers, good description, definitive name and it includes one omnibus edition.

6fyrefly98
Edited: Jul 19, 2010, 9:20am Top

Spotted what I think is a bug:

"Export from LibraryThing

You are not signed in."

Yes I am!

7elenchus
Jul 19, 2010, 9:48am Top

On "Widgets and Extensions", chiclets are spelled that way in the text but "Chicklets" in the header. Am I missing a joke? (Sigh.) That happens enough I should be used to it.

8elenchus
Edited: Jul 19, 2010, 11:41am Top

And in the short description of Helpers, I suggest mentioning that the Wiki is linked here.

Overall, I like the new More: simple and very helpful. It's not the same as the old More.

ETA: And I also suggest pushing to the top of the page the link to the Wiki. That seems the most general item for a helpers page.

9lilithcat
Jul 19, 2010, 9:55am Top

> 7

Pun on "chick lit"?

10bluesalamanders
Jul 19, 2010, 10:19am Top

The "Member Giveaway" link goes to Early Reviewers.

11justjim
Jul 19, 2010, 10:35am Top

#6 see #3!

12lorax
Jul 19, 2010, 10:52am Top

Seeing the same as #6 and #3, though despite that clicking on the "Export as tab-delimited text" link does seem to work, fortunately.

13SqueakyChu
Jul 19, 2010, 11:52am Top

The stickers link goes to the tee shirts. I don't see where to edit it.

14timspalding
Jul 19, 2010, 11:56am Top

Series and awards

I've added Aubrey-Maturin but kept Star Wars. I still think Star Wars is an amazing page, especially all the related series. I killed Sather and replaced it with the Wolfson History prize, keeping it at two series.

Export

Fixed.

Chicklets

Got it.

Member giveaway

Done.

15ty1997
Jul 19, 2010, 12:00pm Top

The news entry says "Come talk about what’s missing here" but doesn't link.

16timspalding
Jul 19, 2010, 12:12pm Top

Stickers

Fixed. Thanks.

17saltmanz
Jul 19, 2010, 12:31pm Top

On the Import/Export page, the "APIs and Easy Linking" link goes to the "Membership Upgrade" page.

Otherwise, nice!

18timspalding
Jul 19, 2010, 12:32pm Top

Thanks. Fixing. Oh, we should have links to upgrade, if you need to.

19saltmanz
Jul 19, 2010, 12:56pm Top

As for that Star Wars series page, I'm making a major effort toward cleanup. I've made a note on BBY date formatting in the series description.

20souloftherose
Jul 19, 2010, 1:47pm Top

I like it!

Possible bug, on the 'Helpers' page there's a link to form letters near the bottom. When I click on it it takes me to CoverGuess.

21leahbird
Jul 19, 2010, 1:51pm Top

i would add the Welcome to LT group to the helpers page, since it's a good way to find helpers.

22brightcopy
Jul 19, 2010, 1:52pm Top

19> Hah, you've fallen for Tim's ploy. He only listed Star Wars as an example in order to get someone to clean it up for him. It's a trap!

23timspalding
Jul 19, 2010, 1:54pm Top

i would add the Welcome to LT group to the helpers page, since it's a good way to find helpers.

Member projects, no?

24elenchus
Jul 19, 2010, 2:21pm Top

>23 timspalding:

I see your point, but think this is another example of how the same resource is used differently by new users and seasoned LTers.

If you don't want to list it in both places, it comes down to the intended audience of the More tab: addressed primarily to new or established users. I don't think I consider one audience more important than the other, and recommend listing it in both places.

25MikeBriggs
Edited: Jul 19, 2010, 3:37pm Top

4> Wow, Star Wars is a complete and utter mess.

For someone who barely pays attention: When did Battle of Yavin occur?

26jjmcgaffey
Jul 19, 2010, 4:05pm Top

The language in the paragraph about the unofficial Facebook app needs work - "The non-official application that let you link your LibraryThing account to your Facebook profile and keep your friends uptodate with what you are reading" - lets? up-to-date or up to date? finish the sentence (with a period at least)?

The headline still says Chicklets! (I'm not sure whether 'got it' means fixed or just know about it).

All Your Covers should probably mention that it only sees Amazon covers, not the covers you've chosen. That's very frustrating sometimes, especially for those of us who are trying to get rid of Amazon covers, and those who have odd books - a good chunk of my page shows default covers because there is no Amazon cover associated with those books. Even when I've scanned in my own cover already, or picked a good one from the other Member-Uploaded covers. And there are ones with covers that don't match what I have, for the same reason - it just shows the Amazon cover.

Member Giveaway still goes to ER - the url is still er/list instead of er/giveaway/list.

The LibraryThing Local link goes to the Helpers page - which, I suppose, is a valid entry point. Just seems odd to me.

As souloftherose pointed out (Msg 20) - the Form Letter link goes to CoverGuess.

I'd like to see the Overview page a little prettier - boxes, at least, if not some graphics. Or at least more white space above section headers? Something. I'm a good reader, even on a computer page, and my eye was still skipping around. Besides, I expect boxes and shading on LT.

It's an excellent source now - a great place to point people for more info. I love the warning poster on Combining!

27saltmanz
Jul 19, 2010, 6:01pm Top

25> The Battle of Yavin is where the first Death Star blew up. (End of the first/fourth movie.)

28MikeBriggs
Jul 19, 2010, 8:32pm Top

27 - thanks

29rsterling
Jul 19, 2010, 9:26pm Top

Can we get some pictures or something on the main "more" page? Nothing is really grabbing my attention on that page. If I weren't a seasoned member, I probably wouldn't be tempted to look at any of this or follow any of the links.

I also think a bit more info on some of these options would be good (on the main page). So, instead of just "Fun and interesting projects members engage in," how about some quirky examples? Ditto for Helpers, etc. Just a few things to add some personality to the page - a bit like the kind of examples and text that was on the old home page from a couple of years ago (to give a sense of the weird and wonderful here).

30MerryMary
Jul 19, 2010, 9:33pm Top

Structure first. Love it.

Now for some embellishments....

31leahbird
Jul 20, 2010, 4:06pm Top

23

i agree with elenchus. it depends on how the Welcome group is viewed. for most people using the More tab to find info, the Welcome group is more about being helped/making connections than for offering up assistance, which is why it would be listed in the Members' Projects (ie, i'd only look for it under Members' Projects if i was looking for a way to help others/make the site work better).

32EowynA
Jul 20, 2010, 7:25pm Top

I was hoping that the More tab would have a link to the CoverGuess activity. I used to play it, but once it disappeared from the blog roll, I couldn't find it any more.

Alternatively, where IS the link to CoverGuess?

33staffordcastle
Jul 20, 2010, 7:40pm Top

It's on the More tab, under Helpers (I know, not terribly obvious, but it does make a sort of sense) - scroll down quite a ways.

34keristars
Jul 20, 2010, 7:50pm Top

CoverGuess is on the More Tab. It's under "Helpers" > "More Helpings" (though I expected it to be under Projects somewhere).

35theapparatus
Edited: Jul 20, 2010, 9:12pm Top

Battle of Yavin was year 0 as it;s the focal point of the New Republic. BBY 0.

What do I win? :)

36romula
Jul 21, 2010, 12:25pm Top

The link to LibraryThing Mobile is broken on the Sites and Applications page

37timspalding
Jul 21, 2010, 2:37pm Top

>36 romula:

It's not broken for me. Others?

38ablachly
Jul 21, 2010, 2:39pm Top

>36 romula:, 37
Sorry, I should have posted. I told Dan to fix it, and he apparently did.

39theapparatus
Edited: Jul 21, 2010, 2:44pm Top

Not sure what should be there. I just get a form asking for a user name. Using FF 3.6.6 for reference.

edit: I now see ablachly's response up above.

40romula
Jul 21, 2010, 3:52pm Top

>37 timspalding:, 38

It's fixed now. Thanks.

41MrsLee
Jul 22, 2010, 12:54pm Top

Lovely tab, and now I own an LT messenger bag!

42timspalding
Jul 22, 2010, 1:03pm Top

Cool :)

43justjim
Jul 24, 2010, 12:41pm Top

The Wiki help page for 'Widgets and Extensions' > 'Other LibraryThing widgets' > 'Email signature line' > has been waiting for your input, Tim, since 12 September 2007!

http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/Putting_a_signature_line_in_your_emai...

44lemontwist
Sep 13, 2010, 11:38am Top

5,000+ libraries later and this project is done: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/Public_libraries

Maybe that can be mentioned on the helpers page on the more tab.

45timspalding
Sep 13, 2010, 12:00pm Top

Holy crap, really?

Did you do it?

46brightcopy
Sep 13, 2010, 12:38pm Top

44> From the page: This is a list of all of the regions (states, territories, etc.) that have all of the libraries added to Library Thing.

Does this just mean that they are added as a venue? I thought at first it meant that their catalog lookup worked under Quick Links, but that appears not to be the case from the few I tried.

47jjwilson61
Sep 13, 2010, 1:17pm Top

44> What do you mean by "this project". This thread seems to be about a lot of things and I don't see the project you're talking about.

48elenchus
Edited: Sep 13, 2010, 1:23pm Top

>47 jjwilson61:

I think lemontwist means the project of adding the links for each state to the public library listing,* as described on the Wiki page he linked. He posted here because he thought it relevant to add text to the "More" tab, which was discussed in this thread. At least, that's my take.

But yes, this thread certainly is a lot of things.

* ETA and perhaps also adding each public library as an LT venue? I didn't confirm that.

49lemontwist
Sep 13, 2010, 4:55pm Top

I'm a she actually. And I went through every state on the public libraries website, checked if they were added as venues, and added the ones that weren't added.

Sorry, I should have been a bit more clear.

50staffordcastle
Sep 13, 2010, 6:02pm Top

Bravo, lemontwist!

51Ape
Sep 15, 2010, 11:54am Top

Hmmmm! Browsing the publiclibraries site, the public library I use isn't listed unless I browse by county...not sure why.

52theapparatus
Sep 15, 2010, 1:16pm Top

It's a conspiracy. Oooooo.......

53lemontwist
Sep 15, 2010, 9:22pm Top

51... sometimes the google map just doesn't put things in the right location, or on the map at all. I noticed that at times. Maybe double check that the address is correct and edit if it necessary.

54sonyagreen
Sep 24, 2010, 8:58am Top

After bragging about all the US public libraries being in Local in the State of the Thing newsletter, of course I got an email from someone saying "mine's not in there!". Out of all of the branches in all of the libraries in the US, this one was missing. Would someone please add it? Also, the name change thing is probably worth changing.

It seems that Weld Library District is one of the library systems--it is no longer Weld Library District. The name changed to High Plains Library District when the system went independent of the county a few years ago. There also seems to have been one of High Plains Library District's branches left off of the list--the Erie Community Library in Erie, CO. (I used to work at this branch--it's a wonderful library and it would be a shame not to include it!) The address is 400 Powers Street, Erie, CO and the phone number is 720-685-5200. Just wanted to bring that to your attention!

55theapparatus
Sep 24, 2010, 10:28am Top

I could have sworn that they were going off some sort of state library association lists. Maybe they should point that out to the library staff to see why if they're not listed on that list if they're not.

56lemontwist
Sep 25, 2010, 7:11am Top

Yeah, I think the publiclibraries.com website isn't terribly up-to-date. I tried to go to most library websites to check for branches, but those were sometimes less helpful than publiclibraries.com Sometimes library webpages do not even include addresses, you wouldn't believe how unhelpful many of them are.

I'm not sure what the problem is for Weld / High Plains Library. I checked their website and all the branches are in the system.

The Erie Community Library was added ages ago: http://www.librarything.com/venue/8373/Erie-Community-Library and has been claimed by user WeldLibrary

Maybe this user is looking up venues by name? Because in that case I can't find anything either. But by location everything is showing up.

57sonyagreen
Sep 27, 2010, 9:08am Top

That could be.

So, I put a call out for other countries' lists of libraries, and someone put a comment on the blog post with a link to what may very well be all of Spain's libraries. The curse of this is I don't speak any other languages well enough to navigate the site.

That being said, I have added a lot of libraries to Local by guessing what looked like the address :) The google map helps to let you know if you're on the right continent.

Anyone want to take this and run with it? Perhaps start a new thread for it?

58sonyagreen
Oct 4, 2010, 9:50am Top

There's also a comment on the blog post about German libraries.

59infiniteletters
Nov 18, 2010, 5:40pm Top

I read Spanish somewhat better than Sonya. The link in 57 seems to be a way to get to the Library Websites by City, Province, and Smaller County/Town.

After that, someone would need to find the address, hours, etc. on the individual websites.

60girlunderglass
Nov 26, 2010, 6:20am Top

57/59 - The website is available in English. You just need to click on 'welcome' on the left side.

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